Kolten Wong on Cardinal Territory

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory. This week a treat a special guest, two time gold Glover eight years with the Cardinals. We welcome Colton Long into Cardinal Territory. Colton, how you doing, my man?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good, man. How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Jim doing great?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: My first question is folks should know this. You are at Cardinals camp. So what's it like being back at camp, back with the boys.

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Speaker 2: Oh? Man, it's amazing, you know, obviously, just kind of coming back and being in Jupiter.

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Speaker 5: This is first time been in Jupiter since twenty twenty, realistically, like I've never been back since, so, you know, a lot of cool memories obviously, I you know, I turned into a man, you know, being with the Cardinals and whatnot. And you know, Jupiter is always a special place. So coming out of here special for me. And driving back and and you know, pulling into the clubhouse and seeing the new clubhouse that they have. Man, it's it's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: And these kids are They're lucky, man, They're they're very lucky.

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Speaker 1: How did this all come about? How did it happen? Where Coln Wong was gonna come back and talk to the younger guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, you know, I took the I took a year off after I retired just to kind of be dad.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to really lock in and learn my children and and you know, figure out you know, who they are.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: That's one of the biggest things that you know, was in my decision for retiring was you know, the first time. First thing that really hit me was my oldest son. I saw his first steps on my phone, you know, and uh, that killed me, man, that really did. So that was a big thing for me to step away. And you know, so I got to really enjoy my my my oldest and then my youngest was starting to do his you know steps and whatnots. I was there for that and uh, you know, so the decision was was correct, and it was it was a great time.

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Speaker 1: You know, people don't realize too professional athletes like yourself make a lot of money, okay, but that doesn't mean it's a perfect existence.

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Speaker 3: There's a sacrifice. You're not there.

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Speaker 1: I know, you got two boys and and you mess a lot. And I know, no matter how great you are, how well you're doing at the plate, or how well the team is doing.

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Speaker 3: There's a bit of a sacrifice there.

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Speaker 5: Right, absolutely, absolutely, And that was the biggest thing too, is like I started to realize towards the end of my career that when I had my kids, like before I was, I was, I was a feuder rat, like I just wanted to be at the field early I was probably you know I was right after YACHTI every single day of showing up just wanted to get better, wanted to continue to push. And then towards galenside my kids, I just wanted to stay home, you know, I wanted to be there.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to hold them, I wanted to play with them.

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Speaker 5: And it just my priorities just changed three sixty and then you know, that's that's a beautiful thing about having kids, right, It just it takes that selfishness out of you as a person and it puts all the spotlight on that beautiful thing that you created.

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Speaker 2: So you know, definitely blessed with that for sure.

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Speaker 1: So for people that don't remember, you were a first round pick with high expectations for the Cardinals, and the same can be said for JJ Weatherhold And I've seen the pictures from Jupiler, You've been talking to tim working with him a little bit. Tell me the things that you're you're talking to JJ about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just trying to be an ear for him to be honest with you. Man, the guy is special. The kid is absolutely special. Just like his makeup, the way he cares himself, his attitude about how he's trying to get better. You know, he's really good at just accepting the fact that he needs to work more, he needs to get better at a lot of different things. I mean, the guy's special. Man, He's going to be a heck of a player. We all know that. And I think that's the coolest thing is like he realizes that he's good, but he knows that there's so much more that he can add to his game. And it's that's that's a special trait that a lot of guys don't have. So just watching him, I mean, obviously you watch the bat. The bat is incredible. You know, if you're going backside at Roger Dean, let's say something.

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Speaker 2: Guys are doing that. So you know that's going to play in the big leagues.

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Speaker 5: Man, the makeup, the head, you know, him being confident in himself, that's gonna play in the big leagues.

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Speaker 2: Defense is gonna play the big league. It's just cleaning up a little bit things here and there. But he's so young, man, he's gonna figure out. That guy's gonna be specialist. Saint Lewis be ready man, JJ's coming.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of guys that have his resume might not take that well. Work is still a big part of it. You're saying that this kid understands what's ahead and what he has to do to get to where he wants to be.

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Speaker 2: Right absolutely, you know, he's for me.

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Speaker 5: It seems like he's a guy that is okay with breaking himself down and understanding that. You know, I'm at the highest level of the games that I play my whole life.

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Speaker 2: Now I need to make sure that everything is at that level, you know.

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Speaker 5: And that's the biggest thing with big leaguers and a lot of these guys is you don't get the special guys in the game that have created these amazing careers, you know. And you talk to him and they're constantly getting better and better and better, and they're never satisfied. And he's got that in Trague with him, you know, and it's just special to see that. Uh me being the guy now I'm just wanted to be an ear for him, you know, help him do anything that he's got any questions a lot, And I told him, I was like, man, take my number during the season, bro.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to put it on you, but you know you're gonna have your ups and downs. That's just part of a baseball season. If you need help, you need just somebody that talks to an event, hit me out, bro.

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Speaker 1: I remember when the Cardinals drafted you and being the first round pick and with high expectations that comes with a certain amount of pressure, the same some of the same pressure that the JJ I'm sure probably will have to deal with it at some point. How How tough is that to him?

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Speaker 2: It definitely is tough, you know.

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Speaker 5: But I think that the thing that a lot of people don't realize, like the pressure that they put on us is not even that close to the pressure we putting ourselves.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's it's that attention to detail that we put on every single day on the little things to make our game as perfect as we can do, you know, and then when it doesn't come up, obviously, the fans are pissed.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's pissed, Like you got to realize how pissed.

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Speaker 5: We are, you know, like we take pride and so much time and effort into just constantly working on these little intricate details to make your defense better, to make your offense a little bit, to figure out your bunting, the little things like that. So when you do mess up as much as you, guys get pissed off. I promise you, if we could take out how many hit ourselves, say hey, what a bad we would.

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Speaker 3: So the Cardinals now.

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Speaker 1: Rebuilding, it's a different scenario than when you were a Cardinal low those many years. I'm just curious, what's your sense of the energy level and the exsignment level for a lot of young players getting their opportunities this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I think a lot of guys are kind of figuring that out.

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Speaker 5: They're understanding that, you know, this is a big opportunity for a lot of these young guys that you know, maybe some of them have a year or two maybe if somewhere on the verge of trying to make that big leagues. Like listen, man, there's so much opportunities right now for you guys to get there. This organization is trying to rebuild. We're trying to figure out how to get back to where we were back.

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Speaker 2: In the day.

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Speaker 5: And you know a big step is the transition of this complex down here. I mean, these kids are coming into a top of the line see to the art complex and you know, with that kind of complex that you're playing in, the level of play is going to continue.

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Speaker 2: To get higher. It has to because you have everything.

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Speaker 5: They have force plates, they have track man's, they have trajets, they have every single thing to make you a better player. It's all about now you putting in the work and using the tools that the Cardinals have provided now to get to that next step. And I think that that, honestly, this thing has come together perfect timing because now you've got kids that you can bring down here and you constantly build and build the Cardinal way back the way that we want to do because we have everything in house.

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Speaker 1: How different is it the complex I'm talking about in the facilities from when you were a young player in camp?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, do you really explain that to people?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys, ever been to a nineteen ninety seven baseball.

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Speaker 2: Dugout? Very similar feeling it was, you know, it was old school rugs man.

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Speaker 5: We had the ceiling was probably eight feet high as some of the top of the scenes were falling out. We had the old metal lockers with the little benches, you know, And now these guys are coming in, man, and their thing. It's it's beautiful. They got the car on the seating lit up. They got brand new rugs.

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Speaker 2: These guys have couches, they got TVs, they got all these things. Man, they got this lunch room. Now that's state of the art.

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Speaker 5: These guys are getting fed unbelievable meals, and like, dude, take advantage of this, boys and enjoy this and appreciate it, man, because I promise you, as much as you guys love playing this game, you're gonna be retired lot long when you're playing, man, So just enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: Seems like it's nice.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about your your cardinal career, and you had so many highlights along the way. I know you took a lot of pride being a cardinal. What is the one moment that jumps out to you? Because I'm thinking about Game two NLCS twenty fourteen, you walk it off in the ninth inning. When you think about your career, what are the moments that stand out to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely a big moment for me.

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Speaker 5: You know, I mean, obviously, you know, I think we all understand twenty thirteen what happened, So twenty fourteen was huge, but honestly, twenty thirteen was I'm sorry to say, it was something.

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Speaker 2: That I would never give away. You know.

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Speaker 5: Getting picked off obviously sucked, man, it really did as a person. As a player, I was twenty two years old, just got to the big leagues, you know, and to have that happen.

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Speaker 2: You know, at that time, I thought it was the end of the world.

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Speaker 5: But in the reality of things, man, that situation right there made me want to become so much more than I thought I could be. You know. It made me want to push so much harder to make people for not forget, to make people understand that I'm not just that guy that I could constantly be better.

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Speaker 2: I could push the envelope to be who I want to be, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, I think that that pickoff took away the fear of the game for me after that, and I was like, okay, listen, I did the worst thing you probably could do in a game, get picked off to end the game in a World series with Carlos freaking Beltron at the plate, you know, and it's so I kind of started to really lean onto that and be like, you know what, man, if I hit that rock bottom, there's no place lower for me to go, So there's no fear anymore. So I think that was a big transition for me to really start taking that next step and becoming the player that I was. And yeah, so I would never give any of those situations away, and that was definitely a big one for me.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because another media guy, a buddy of mine, once said, when you talked to Cotland about his cardinal career of all the accomplishments and great things, even if you know the pick, if it's not something you plan to ask him about, he brings it up. So obviously that was sort of the pivotal moment in your career.

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Speaker 5: Right, Absolutely, absolutely. And the thing is, I'll never run away from that, you know. I try to tell kids that too after be like, look, you guys, wanna watch the video. Go see it, Like learn from that. Understand that, you know what, man, Like, we're gonna mess up. You're gonna mess on the field. You're gonna make these little decisions and at the wrong time, and you're gonna you're gonna pay the consequences, you know, as long as you face the music and you come back and you want to be better and you're you're not gonna let that define you, and you're gonna be better.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna build you to the man that you want to be and the man that you're expected to become.

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Speaker 1: So when, uh, when you talk about the Cardinals, like I could see your eyes light up. And you played with with other teams too, but you're a cardinal. What was it about playing with the Cardinals being a Cardinal that that you appreciated so much?

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Speaker 2: I tell everybody this to this day.

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Speaker 5: I was like, you know, the biggest thing for Saint Louis was when I came here, we were winning, you know, And so when I stepped in, the aura that was in that clubhouse was we were expecting to win every single day, you know, And we weren't just expecting to play one sixty two. We're expecting to go and continue to play in the playoffs. So we're always getting ready for one sixty two and the playoffs. It was never we were never accepting just playing. And that was a big thing, man, that really helped me as a person to continue to push and get better, because I was like, you know, I don't want to feel any of these guys. I want to let any of these guys down, because at the end of the day, like these guys are showing me what to take. It's gonna take to be a big leaguer. So I'm gonna do whatever I can to be the guy that needed to be, you know. And then realistically, like the Saint Louis Cardinals, man, they were so good at teaching us how to create a routine, especially for us young guys coming into the you know, pro baseball whatnot. You know, I tell a lot of these young guys nowadays, I'm like, man, they're the only way that you can be confident as a player is if you have, you know, a bulletproof routine, something that you can do every single day. It doesn't matter if it's you know, you play eighteen night game or eighteen innings the night before and you got to dig in the next day.

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Speaker 2: You know, you still understand that my routine is what I do every single day to get you ready.

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Speaker 5: So I was telling them, you know, you build a solid, bulletproof routine and your confidence is constantly behind that because you're.

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Speaker 2: Never worried about how you're feeling this night.

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Speaker 5: You just realize, like I did everything I need to do every single or the same way to get ready.

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Speaker 2: So I just gotta go out there compete.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, that's been a big thing with a lot of these guys, is just understanding what the cardon the way is. You know, it's a hard work, it's attention to detail, and it's a win to go out there and compete all twenty seven ounce.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what the day to day, the daily for Cold Wong is. Now you mentioned your dad, you're watching your kids. What what is a normal day like for Colton wall Man.

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Speaker 2: I wake up usually went right around like six six thirty ish.

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Speaker 5: I'll get up and then I'll kind of wait for the boys, and the boys will wake up and they'll come down and won't hang out, and then.

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Speaker 2: We'll go outside.

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Speaker 5: I take them outside every day right wake up, They'll get like a little yoga. We'll go outside and then we'll start hitting baseball's off the tea. They love baseball, man. They're just constantly out there and we hit baseballs. Then we'll come in. I'll cook through a breakfast. I try to make them like super healthy breakfast. Is because the one thing I learned is like when Matt Holliday when he was here, he had Jackson, he had Ethan. They're I think eight and six at a time, somewhere around that age. Now, i'd pay attention to him and how he took care of these kids and how he fed them and how he just he had them on a regimen of realizing like this is life. You know, this isn't you know me just doing like this is how we're gonna live life. And like you look at those kids now and like the way that they carry themselves and how they're like they're I mean, these kids are machines, you know. So I learned from Matt, and I took all those things and all the guys that had kids, I just constantly will just learn and figure out. So I was like, okay, But the funny thing is now that I'm here, I'm like, so I talked to Brownie, the hitting coach. I'm like, hey, Brownie, what should I do with my kids?

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Speaker 2: You know? What can I start adding? That is smart thing?

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Speaker 5: So he Brownie's a mad scientist, so he's like telling me He's like, yeah, you need to get this, that this.

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Speaker 2: I'm like all the time, I'm here writing down all the different things and I do. Thank you, Ed. I'm gonna grab all these things and we're gonna just go it to town.

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Speaker 1: Well, your kids have you know, have the gene pool they won the genetic Lottery, like holidays kids. You think your kids will be big leaguer someday possibly.

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Speaker 5: You know what, I just whatever they do, I hope they do. It's the way that I did. I just hope they attack whatever they want to do wholeheartedly. That's the thing is, like, you know, I tell Everyboddy like the baseball is my journey. You know, something that I want to do. I don't ever want to portray that on my kids. They want to do it amazing If they don't, like, I just hope that whatever they do they attack it just as hard as I do.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: So, Colton Wong, I don't know if you've been watching the WBC wh you had a little clunker last night for Team USA. But you didn't play in the World Baseball Classic. But you did represent America or Team USA in college. So what's the difference between playing in the college game where lay game and representing your team, which obviously.

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Speaker 3: You have love for it, but we're in the USA on your chest. What's the difference.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's crazy, you know. I mean, you're not just playing for yourself. You're not just playing for a city. You're playing for the whole country, you know, and on the biggest stage like this too. Like I didn't mine in college, and I wasn't even really playing. I was just part of the team at the time. But uh, you know, even just being on it and you know, realizing how special that was and the guys that I got a chance to be around. You know that Team USA Jersey will always weigh heavy and always have that pride, and you know, you see it on all the guys that are playing right now. You know, obviously everybody's still in spring training moment. Man, these guys are turning up, you know, and you know, seeing the little animosity that is going on and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: I love it, man. I think it's just great for the game.

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Speaker 5: I think it's great for the fans, and it's great for just you know, showing people that you know this, it's okay to have a little animosity, Okay to do that man, that's just part of these guys competing.

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Speaker 3: Last night.

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Speaker 1: Now, there was some confusion as to whether or not the the Americans were into the next round if they had already qualified.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious.

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Speaker 1: So, like, you're playing Team Italy and there's major leaguers on there to you, and the United States gets upset.

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Speaker 3: Just put yourself in that.

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Speaker 1: Position if this All Star team from the US and again you're playing against the Italian team, which has bona fide professional players too. But put yourself in that mindset. What's it like to suddenly be behind eight to nothing to Team Italy.

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Speaker 3: What would that be?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 5: It's tough, man, because I mean in baseball, like it doesn't matter, you know, you can have a good team. Sometimes that's just off on that day, you know. And the thing is like when you're down eight, that is so far to catch, especially when you understand the other team has solidified big leaguers, you know, like, yeah, it's Team Italy, but you look at that team and a majority of those guys are big league guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a.

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Speaker 5: Good group of guys that you know, have a chip on their shoulder because they realized that everybody calmed them out right away. You know, they're like, Dude, I play with a lot of these guys on TSA. I play with a lot of these guys in Team Mexico Dominican Republic. We all play together, you know, and it's like, so I think that's the cool thing with Team Italy.

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Speaker 2: And then the whole situation.

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Speaker 5: Is like, you know, you're starting to realize, like these guys, you know, they might not be household names, but everybody in this league is pretty dang good man, and it's it's fun to see the competition growing all over the world.

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Speaker 1: So Holidays coaching and he's doing, you know, some of the podcasting. Lance Lind's doing some some broadcasting. I know he's doing some coaching on the side too. What's a hemp for Colen Wang? What do you want to see in the future? What direction do you think you might hit?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, I I've been asked that question a couple of times this week, and I honestly don't know. You know, this is kind of the first step of me just kind of coming out and just wanted to kind of give back to the organization that gave me everything, you know, give you my start. Drafted me believed in me, you know when I was like just a kid from Hawaii, you know, so for me, I just it was always pulling on my heart to come back, and you know, when I was done to give back and do what I can.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm ready to do the coaching thing yet. You know, I've been really enjoying my times.

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Speaker 5: My boys there are four and about to be three, you know, so they're that prime time of you know, really just learning them and you know, seeing them grow and constantly become, you know, the men that they're gonna be. So yeah, I don't think there's really much it's gonna pull me away from them at this point. But you know, definitely these you know, little show ups here and there I'd love to do and you know, even start bringing my boys with me to so that they can realize, you know, what dad used to do back in the day.

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Speaker 3: And you're just thirty five years old. I mean, you're still a young man.

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Speaker 1: But that's one thing your kids need to get that feel you got to come to camp once.

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Speaker 3: You wan't bring your kids, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, because that's part of the process for the for the kids, and maybe one day they end up where the Holiday kids are.

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Speaker 5: Right, absolutely, absolutely, I mean that's so special just to get that, you know, I used to I used to watch the Holiday kids and you know, everybody who'd bring their kids on, like, man, this is crazy. This kids don't realize how lucky they are to be out here and to appreciate this thing, you know.

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, I'm definitely.

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Speaker 5: Going to try and continue to do to come out and support and whatnot. And you know, who knows on the road what may happen. You know, I'm not trying to take anyone's job or come in and be that guy. I just I really just genuinely want to just help out, you know, whatever I can do, like especially like for instance, the jj I thing, like that was perfect for me to just come in and kind of help out the guy and just be an ear for him. That's really all I wanted to do, just kind of be around the guys and just tell them, you know, and just kind of be that guy to explained to him like, hey, listen, man, my career was never hall of fame, you know, like it was.

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Speaker 2: It was hard.

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Speaker 5: You know, I started from the ground zero and I had to work my way up and constantly you know, getting back down, figuring out, getting back down, figuring out. And you know, so for me, like so, it's kind of easy for guys to like compare their careers to or like, you know, talk to me because they realized, like, man, the game wasn't so easy for me. I had to work so much harder thebody else just to be able to be average or you know, somewhat above average. To hold myself there for ten years. I was like, you know, it was it was a grind that I did every single day that I loved and I became obsessed with. And you know, if you guys have any questions, man, I'm sure majority of the situations you guys are asking I've been in, so yeah, ask away.

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Speaker 1: You were a very good player and some of the best defense at second base I ever saw steel base. I used to say, someone has a low pop too.

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Speaker 3: You were the clear. My last question, now, one of the less you go.

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Speaker 1: Is, you know, we we've talked about you being back and being away from it.

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Speaker 3: Take me to the.

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Speaker 1: Moment where you're in the clubhouse and you're putting on the gear for the first time in a while and walking out on the baseball field what's going through your mind?

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Speaker 3: What's coming over you at that moment?

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Speaker 5: Oh man, that was kind of crazy because I walked up and obviously, you know, instead of going into the clubhouse, I went to.

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Speaker 2: The coach's locker room. So I go and there. I'm like, we're just coach's locker room.

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Speaker 5: So I figure out my way and I getting there, and of course, while she's the man, you know, he had me. He had my stuff all hanged out with with the wall and the sixteen. But I told her, dude, I don't want the jersey. You know, that's that's Gorman's thing, Like just give me a nice little hoodie. That's totally fine, man. But you know, just being back here and you know some of the smells, you know, walking through the hallway and having those smells. I remember walking like the first time I was walking, close my eyes and just smelling and I'm like, holy smokes.

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Speaker 2: Like I remember being I remember the smell.

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Speaker 6: I remember walking here and going to the backfields and getting ready to play, you know, the minor league games, were getting ready to go out to the Roger Dean and you know, it's just like the little things like that, the subtle thing because I mean, there's so much changes to this place, you know, the little things that are still left.

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Speaker 2: Those are the things that I was starting to appreciate.

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Speaker 1: Well, Colton, we uh, we appreciate you spending time. Great catching up with you again. It's great that you're back with the team and helping a young player, you know, to make his next step. But we appreciate you coming on with us. Always a pleasure, always one of the good guys.

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Speaker 3: Them won and.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna do it. For this edition of Cardinal Territory. We'll see you for the next episode. Hopefully that one won't suck.

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Speaker 5: H m hm m h m hmmm.