Twister Director SHOCKED! Movie Mike Sets a Record! + Movie Review: The Bike Riders + Trailer Park: Long Legs
One of Mike’s favorite movies of all-time is Twister (1996). He’s seen it over 50 times and was pumped to talk to the director Jan de Bont. Mike talks to him about what lines were improvised, the entire cast getting along and bonding, the hardest scene to film and if there’s anything he would change about the movie. If you haven’t seen it or it’s been a while…you’re in luck! Twister has been fully restored and is coming to 4K UHD for the first time you can own it on July 9th. In the Movie Review, Mike talks about The Bikeriders starring Austin Butler and Tom hardy. It’s about a Midwestern motorcycle club. Mike shares why the movie is hard to watch, Austin Butler as a leading man and what could have been done to make the movie more impactful. In the Trailer Park, Mike talks about Long Legs which is being described as the scariest movie of the year. Mike plays some of the chilling sounds from the trailer and why he loves the marketing for the movie.
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie Podcast. I am your host Movie Mike today. Oh it's a special episode. One of my favorite movies of all time is Twister, and I get to talk to the director, John Devont. It's gonna be awesome. I want to get this episode started right away so we can get into that interview. 00:00:16 Speaker 2: In the movie review, I'll be. 00:00:18 Speaker 1: Talking about Austin Butler's performance in The Bike Riders and what made that movie difficult. 00:00:23 Speaker 2: To watch for me. 00:00:24 Speaker 1: And in the trailer park, we are dipping into the horror genre once again because a movie called Long Legs is being described as the scariest movie of the year, and I want to share some haunting sounds from the trailer with you. So thank you for being subscribed. Shout out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. 00:00:40 Speaker 2: And now let's talk movies. 00:00:42 Speaker 3: In a world where everyone and their mother has a podcast, one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like never before in a movie podcast. A man with so much movie knowledge, he's basically like a walking imtb Wood's glasses on the Nashville Podcast Network. This is Movie Mike Movie Podcast. 00:01:05 Speaker 1: About to get into my interview with Jan Debond, who is the director of the original Twister, which came out back in nineteen ninety six, almost thirty years since this movie has been in existence, and it is the movie in my filmography of watching movies that I have watched the most. If you are a listener of this podcast and part of the movie crew, you know how much I love this movie. Talk about it all the time, and still to this day, I rewatch it with Kelsey at least once or twice a year. For the longest time, my brother and I refer to this movie as our sacred movie because we felt like it was a perfect film that could not be touched. And I'll even talk about in this interview why this movie was so special to me. So I have seen it a record amount of times. But if you've never seen it, first of all, where have you been? It is the disaster film in my opinion, because it goes way above just being a movie about people racing twisters. There is so much more there to dig into. Or if you haven't seen it in a while, you're in luck because it has been fully restored and it's coming to four k UHD for the first time on July ninth, and for me, I love it when movies get restored because it almost feels like, even though you can't erase a movie from your memory, when it is restored, you can go back and maybe catch things that are a little bit more clearer on the screen because they've been restored. So I feel like it's the closest you can get of rewatching something for the first time. It'll also be available everywhere digitally on July ninth on Prime Video, Apple TV, and more. You want to go watch it before the new one comes out, I highly recommend it. But right now, here's my conversation with director yondbant Hey. 00:02:43 Speaker 2: It is Mike from Moving Mike'sweet podcast. 00:02:45 Speaker 4: How are you? 00:02:47 Speaker 2: I am great. 00:02:47 Speaker 1: I just want to say that Twister is one of my favorite movies of all time. It is the only film out of any movie that I've seen over fifty times. 00:02:55 Speaker 2: I make a point to read Wow. 00:02:57 Speaker 1: Since I was a kid, I watched this movie, and the reason I have so to bond with it is I grew up in a trailer park and I was terrified of tornadoes, and by watching Twister, because if a tornado came through the trailer park, we were done for So I was always freaked out watching the news. 00:03:11 Speaker 2: I just had all this. 00:03:12 Speaker 1: Anxiety, and I would watch Twister because it almost helped me deal with that anxiety. If I can literally watch the worst possible scenario of what could happen, it kind of helped me work through that. So that is why I've seen it so many times. 00:03:25 Speaker 4: Oh wow, wow, Wow, that's amazing. I mean, I mean I never heard somebody saying it for fifty times, but that must be a record bike that. The funny thing is that it is still a very watchable movie. It still feels like it could happen today. And the way it is filmed, the excitement, and the cast they all like still today's people. They're not like from a different period, even though thirty years ago. I think that's why it's so relatable. It's very relatable this movie. I mean, everybody can see themselves more or less being a storm chaser, being want to be that. Everybody likes danger. There's some some to some decree and that both wouldn't want to go that far bad people who are really willing to go in cars and drive towards that's pretty insane situation, and but they exist. And they are they are they love it, but they also they love the science line it too. I was fired someone that met a lot of them. That is not only the fact it's not only the the the adrenaline that that it creates. It's also really like we really want to see and photograph it and show to people. And that was really pretty surprising to to to to really to really see that happen. It's really good. 00:04:40 Speaker 1: And I think the other thing is it's not just a movie about people chasing tornadoes. It's also a story of all these people who are just friends, but also the story of Bill and Joe of going there to. 00:04:50 Speaker 2: Get the paper signed. 00:04:52 Speaker 1: That's the whole reason he shows up back there, and you have that threat throughout the entire movie, of the tension between them. I think it's something I probably didn't appreciate as a kid. As an adult I understood it and how that was really that was the story. You could almost make a movie where you take away the twisters and it's just Bill and Joe. 00:05:08 Speaker 4: You could make a movie like that. That wouldn't be as exciting, I think. But no, but of course that is that is true. Of course that's whole that whole idea of that team and how they get along, and the relationship to Bill and and and and and talent that was like that was that was the story, that was the plot, and and how that kind of they started in intermingle more and more and more and and and because seeing that happen, that's also because it got closer again, of course, and youvolve when you wasn't in danger and other people have to come and help you. It is it's changed relationships and shape bombs. 00:05:48 Speaker 1: So when it comes to just the camaraderie that you feel from the cast, I think the best example of that is the breakfast scene where everybody just they're having literally what looks like the best meal ever, and you just feel that bond between everybody. Everybody gets their moment to shine, everybody's getting in their jokes. What was it like filming that scene. Was it a much larger scene that was cut down to what we saw in the movie or was it all on the page? 00:06:12 Speaker 4: It was most of it was on the page, And also quite a bit was improvised because I told them what I said, this is okay if you step on somebody's line, if you want to say, just jump in and then you can come back to that later and let that all happen. And when you have a bunch of people that get along really well, they are fine with that. They wouldn't get mad as you if you just stap on somebody's line, they would just come back later. And so I really wanted that to happen. Said, don't be afraid. It's a fun scene. It has to be a fun scene for you guys having a great time. You having a really great meal after being in the field, not eating anything or just cookies whatever, what you have in the truck. 00:06:53 Speaker 5: But this is like a really a scene in which showcase of friendship, and they're the friendship in the way that everybody accepts the sort of weaknesses and strengths, and it becomes like one one group. 00:07:07 Speaker 4: The whole scene is based but the group and nothing else. And I agree, I love that scene. I really totally, really really excites me. It's still fun to once. 00:07:18 Speaker 1: Was that your philosophy throughout the other parts of making the movie, aside from that of letting people improvise, since you do have these just huge personality Bill Pax and Philip Tymore Hoffman, and they're doing these scenes together. Were you okay with them just throwing different lines in there that were in the. 00:07:33 Speaker 4: Script, Yeah, but only only if they still would would move the movie forward. I mean sometimes it came up with sentences or I mean never long sentences, so that that actually would help to see and then I definitely let them do it. I mean that the screenplay is like based on a little bit how storm chasers talk. You know, we we listened to them many times and we met them, and so it has had to resemble that. So and does people stalk, no to stop? Basically all of them they all talk at once and then and you pick up something that you pick up something him or her. So it is it is. 00:08:12 Speaker 6: It is a little bit like the same way as they would act in real life. And Bill, if they would have been, if this would be all real storm Chases, pe wouldn't talk much different. 00:08:23 Speaker 1: Being that I have seen the movie over fifty times, I know every single scene down to the every single line, and for me, there was nothing, there's nothing I would change about the movie. I think it is a perfect film. But for you, now, almost thirty years since it's been out, how often do you rewatch it? 00:08:37 Speaker 2: And is there anything you would change. 00:08:39 Speaker 4: It's a question that I've been asked many times. Is it going to be a director? Scott always asking me directors to what do you mean? Well, I'm really big director makes directors. Now everything is in the movie. This is my movie. I don't have anything. I don't want to put any deleted scenees in. We work really hard to make this and this works perfect. Why would you add seen or take things out that either already work and change it with something else. I mean, there was at one point there's some studios were worried about about that the audience would not understand the idea of getting those little balls in the air with a little and they had to be explained exactly they see it. They don't have to You don't have to explain they can't see goddam happening. So why would you really, really really haven't seen? And people explaining that, and I had to film it. But then also most of it restrow back argant because it was completely redundant, and because the whole thing is a little bit It is not only a movie and told by sentences, by by dialogue. It's about the whole physical reaction to of all the people towards what they what they encounter. It's there to get onness. It's there that being upset or angry at disorder and them getting changing again. That was that was my whole call. I didn't want any anything that looked like a real movie, like a regular movie. It should see, not a real movie, like a react of what you people sit down and talk. It's like even that. That's why the scene on the tape because they sit around the table, but then he sent up and not sent up, and he grasps over the table and give me some of that. So they're almost doing things while they havn't. This discussion, this funny discussion, and that's I love that. I think it's so good. 00:10:28 Speaker 2: So there's nothing you would change. 00:10:29 Speaker 1: But that was the most physically or not physically, but just the most the hardest scene to just tackle that had maybe a lot of production elements to it, or it were just so time consuming. You're like, that almost killed us, but we got it in. 00:10:43 Speaker 4: There Actually just quite a few of those things because. 00:10:47 Speaker 2: There was a lot of practical effects too. 00:10:49 Speaker 4: It was at the special effects like for instance, like when the combine has fell from the air and the tractors fell from the Yeah, to really get that timing eye, there's a helicopter really flying clothes over the cars, and and there's Helen and Bill driving the car and they had to maneuver that way around. I mean, the thing would fall down and it could fall down there, and they quickly would have to react and respond to that. So I was filming them at the same time as that as when it as when it happened, so that I would have the responses to the real action in front of them. And of course we I had such good relationship and with special effects, I knew it was gonna be okay, especially the pilot, and I communicate with them, but I was I sat in the car with them too, by the way, but it's happened. So you sit in the car and you measure and now and then I knew how many seconds it would take to hit the ground, and then I let so. And when Bill heard me say, now, they knew something was going to happen, but not exactly what. Yeah, and that boom that the combinder file and those things that was really cumbersome to set up and really have this so many moving parts, and that was tough, and I was so happy that that was done. 00:12:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really appreciate the time. 00:12:08 Speaker 1: I'm now gonna go watch it for a fifty first time, So thanks for. 00:12:11 Speaker 2: Talking to me. Okay, that was awesome, y'all. 00:12:14 Speaker 1: I hope I didn't fanboy too much there. There was so much more I wanted to get into with him, but obviously only. 00:12:20 Speaker 2: Have a limited amount of time. 00:12:22 Speaker 1: The one thing that I didn't get into that I wanted to I wanted to share with him my favorite quotes from the movie and get some behind the scenes about it. 00:12:30 Speaker 2: But since we ran out of time, I will share with you. 00:12:32 Speaker 1: Well. My top three quotes are from Twister at number three. My favorite scene in the movie that doesn't involve a Twister is the one we were talking about earlier during the interview when they all go to Meg's house that have breakfast, and this is the quote that gets us. 00:12:47 Speaker 4: There food. 00:12:52 Speaker 2: We are absolutely not going. That is one that I would quote a lot every time I was hungry. I'd be like food, food, crave sustenance. 00:13:01 Speaker 1: That is number three at number two is a classic and involves my favorite character in the movie that isn't a human, that isn't a Twister. It is the cow I gotta go, Julia, we got cow. And then when they see the other cow, another cow. Now, actually I think that was the same one. I don't know whose idea it was to put the cow scene in the movie, but it provides such a great little moment of comic relief. And also the cow ended up making the poster on a lot of different variant covers because if you get the new four k UHD you see the cow up there too. So I always love that quote, but at number one we'll say it as a curse word in it. But it's probably the quote out of the entire movie that I have said the most. It is whenever Bill Paxton is driving. Bill Paxton is at his best in this movie. When he's delivering just a vulgar line, he really gets into it. I love his performance in this movie, and this by far is the best example of that. This entire sceneonas son of a Bitch, What is that, honey? 00:14:04 Speaker 3: Jonas Miller, he's a nightcrawler. 00:14:07 Speaker 5: We all start out in the same lab that Jonas went out and got himself. 00:14:10 Speaker 2: Some corporate sponsors. He said it for the money, not the science. 00:14:15 Speaker 5: He's got a lot of high tech gadgets but he's got no instakes. 00:14:21 Speaker 4: And he doesn't have Dorothy. 00:14:23 Speaker 2: I love that quote. 00:14:24 Speaker 1: Probably my follow up to that one when it comes to a Bill Paxton quote is whenever he goes to fight Jonas and he's like, Jonas, you took her, your damn thief. 00:14:32 Speaker 2: So that was my top three. That was the interview. 00:14:35 Speaker 1: I'm gonna post a clip of it on my TikTok Instagram, Facebook and X if you want to go over there, comment with the secret emoji, which this week, of course, it is gonna be the Tornado Twister emoji. Comment with that, and I will pick next week's listener shout Out of the Week from those comments. We'll come back with a spoiler free review of The Bike Riders. Let's get into it now, a spoiler free. 00:15:01 Speaker 2: Movie review of The Bike Riders. 00:15:03 Speaker 1: This is another movie that got me with a TikTok ad. I was scrolling through my for you page and I saw one of those sponsored ads. Sometimes they get people to review movies, they pay them, and I never watch anybody's review going into a movie because I don't want any outside influence. 00:15:19 Speaker 2: I want to have all my own thoughts. 00:15:21 Speaker 1: But I stopped on this one just because I saw it was sponsored, and the very first thing this person said was one of the most anticipated movies of the summer. And I kept scrolling right after that when I realized they were talking about the Bike Riders, because I didn't want to hear it. But also, this is not one of the most anticipated movies of the summer. It's been out a couple weeks now. At this point, I'm recording this a little bit ahead, fresh off of just seeing it the opening weekend. There was no buzz around this movie, and Austin Butler is arguably one of the biggest actors right now, fresh off of Dune. 00:15:53 Speaker 2: He was Elvis. 00:15:54 Speaker 1: I think this is the first time so far that I've not really seen him do. 00:15:57 Speaker 2: That Elvis voice. 00:15:59 Speaker 1: It was released at a time where maybe studios were afraid of inside out to having just a dominant second week. So hey, let's put up something that's a little bit counter programming, appeals more to men. Maybe we can sneak in there and have a bit of a sleeper pick. Opening weekend made about ten million dollars, so maybe that didn't pan out so well. And I'll say at the beginning of this review, because I'm gonna get into a lot of the negative. Overall, I don't think it was a terrible movie. I just think there wasn't enough story to warrant a two hour movie. What this movie is about. It's based on a book of this reporter that traveled around with a Bite gang, based on the real life Chicago Outlaws motorcycle club that rayan rampant in the nineteen sixties. They took that book turned it into a movie. Austin Butler plays a guy named Benny who is in the motorcycle Gang. 00:16:56 Speaker 2: He is this outlaw, a guy who plays by his own rule. 00:17:00 Speaker 1: Rull was a loose cannon, really one of the wildest people in this motorcycle gang. Tom Hardy plays the head of the club and he was like the father figure, the one everybody has to turn to to make any decision in the club, and overall supposed to be a pretty tough dude. And then Austin Butler's character falls in love with the woman played by Jody Komer who she ends up being the one narrating this entire movie. So it is a oral history of the motorcycle Gang. You have the actual interviewer, which is one of the guys from challengers interviewing her, primarily her voicing. 00:17:38 Speaker 2: Over a lot of the dialogue. 00:17:40 Speaker 1: Telling a lot of the story through that interview, and then you also have the reporter interviewing other people in the motorcycle gang. So that is not really the format I was expecting based on the trailer I saw. I thought it was just going to be a straight ahead motorcycle greaser movie, which there really aren't a whole lot of. If I had to compare it to some of the best ever made, you got to go back to movies like The Outsiders, even movies like Greece, which is more of a comical type of movie as far as it doesn't really take the motorcycle Gang that seriously. It's just a fun musical. So I think there's always a really really fine line to walk when making a movie about a motorcycle gang, especially taking place back in the sixties. How do you make it feel real and how do you make it just have a sense of authenticity. So maybe that's why they decided to tell it this way, because they wanted to base it on the book. They wanted it to be as accurate, even though they don't use the Chicago Outlaws motorcycle club name. 00:18:47 Speaker 2: They are called the Vandals. 00:18:49 Speaker 1: The problem I had with the format of this movie is by doing it through interviews and having this voiceover, it took away a lot of impact, hacked throughout moments of the story because you have the narrator telling you exactly what is going to happen before you even see it, taking away some of that impact. There were a lot of moments that I felt were greatly spoiled because it was her saying so and so happened to this character, and then you're like, well, that happened to that character, and then you see the actual scene, which took away overall of just feeling anything for anybody with all the hardship that they end up going through, the overall just craziness of being in a motorcycle gang. I didn't really feel it. And the thing is they keep telling you how crazy this gang is and how much they are feared, you don't really ever see it a whole lot. There are some moments where Austin Butler starts to get into some fights, he's running from police, and you think, all right, I want to see. 00:19:51 Speaker 2: More of this. But overall, when. 00:19:53 Speaker 1: You are telling the story of these people who are supposed to be so bad that are feared by other motorcycle games. Even Tom Hardy's character, who is the head of the gang and if anybody has a problem, they have to go to him and challenge him, fight him sometimes in order to have any kind of change made within the club. 00:20:14 Speaker 2: I didn't really feel any qualifiers for his character that. 00:20:18 Speaker 1: He was this ba dude who could take on anybody, who could inflict a lot of pain on somebody, but also take it. And me, as the viewer, I found them all to be kind of fragile characters of thinking they're probably gonna get their butt kicked because they haven't really proven to me that they are that hardcore. So I think they missed some moments to show you how real, awesome and gritty they were, and instead you get a really spacey type of movie where it feels like the action was almost an afterthought. As much as Tom Hardy tried really hard, I think some of the assets around him just weren't really that powerful, one of those being that Austin Butler just fell a little bit overly stoic in this, and maybe that's just his style of acting, being a little bit aloof and mysterious, and his character, I just didn't really feel it from him, and I feel like he's kind of relying a lot on his looks right now, because even at the start of this movie, what his love interest was so attracted to with him is that he stood out from all the other guys and he was so attractive, and that was kind of his whole and moment throughout the film of him, like adjusting his hair, talking really soft, not really saying a whole lot, and then just him just standing there smoking cigarettes drinking beer. By the way, this movie did make me want to buy a motorcycle, smoke cigarettes, and drink beer. That's the only real thing it made me want to do. It made me want to be a degenerate. But his character was just so aloof he tries to go through these developments as a person throughout the film. He's almost like a tough nut to crack. The love interest is really trying to get through and change him a little bit, and you never really see that process happen. But what was my biggest struggle with the movie? Like I said, it almost felt like they didn't have enough to make an entire film out of. 00:22:10 Speaker 2: But I feel like it didn't really. 00:22:12 Speaker 1: Get to the main story until that very third act, Almost those last twenty thirty minutes, it felt like, Oh, that is the story right there. This is what this entire movie should have been about. And it would have been way more impactful if it wasn't in this narrative format where it's just an oral history. It should have been entirely focused on. Forget Austin Butler's character, It should have been so much focused on Tom Hardy's character, who I found the most interesting, who I felt the most for throughout this film. It should have been told entirely from his perspective, remove the reporter aspect, and just show everything that his character goes through. Less of the love relationship with Austin Butler and Jody Comer, like, make that the b plot, make it all about Tom Hardy and not even so much about the formation of the club, but what they get into the third act and how they deal with the changing of the times, which I found to be the most interesting. It reminded me of one of my favorite movies of old time, No Country for Old Men, of dealing with a new type of criminal where you were a little bit more old school, where at a time where maybe crime was a little bit more wholesome, which is what this movie started dealing with. Of in their motorcycle gang, there were certain rules, but at the end of it, nobody was really doing anything overly violent, aside from fighting with people, maybe slashing a couple faces every now and then with a switch blade, but overall they were able to get along with other people. They weren't doing really any violent crimes. But as you move out of the sixties going into the seventies, you see more struggle of these new people coming in and being just more crazy and reckless and not caring about any of these established rules that I think the movie should have focused more on the changing of the guard between the old school between the new school, and I just thought it was kind of funny to look at a time where being in a motorcycle gang was kind of wholesome and to have that ripped away from you. I think to talk about that more and to show that more with Tom Hardy's character would have been way more interesting. The other really distracting part was all of the accents that were going on. I almost feel like every actor went into their own process of how they were going to tackle the accent, and what you ended up getting was just a kind of mess of all these people trying all different types of things. Therefore, it made a lot of the dialogue feel less authentic and a little bit corny. And that is that line you walk with a movie like this on motorcycle clubs and motorcycle gangs. It made it just feel like biker cosplay. Even though the war in this movie who was fantastic. I like that they all look super dirty. If anybody had a white T shirt, it had all this crap all over it. So it did benefit by having a great wardrobe department, but the performances and the overall tone of the story didn't really match the one performance I was surprised by, even though at this point I should not question this person whatsoever? Was Michael Shannon. You put him in anything and he instantly makes a movie better and will start acting circles around everybody else. If he would have had more screen time, I feel like he would have been ten times better than everybody else in this movie. And for somebody like him, who can really do any type of thing, well, it just shows you how great of a character actor he is, because if more of these actors had his approach and just his talent to make it feel more authentic. I think overall the entire movie would have benefited from it, because at the end of it, it almost just felt like a Marlborough ad come to life. Although I did like the way this movie looked. The color palette was very warm, and it had that almost old fifties sixties photograph feel to it. It had all the makings to be a real cinematic Darling. I think they could have done a really good job addressing more the toxic masculinity and the inability for men to have healthy relationships with other men, especially where you're supposed to be so hardened and so in a mindset of nothing bothers you you can't cry. I feel like if they really would have brought that idea home turned up some of these performances, this could have been a film in a discussion for Best Picture because all the elements were there. It just fell flat in a lot of places. I think with a few changes, it could have been a much better movie. I still enjoyed it overall, it was a little bit boring at times. It did feel a little bit like why exactly was this movie made. 00:26:53 Speaker 2: I still feel. 00:26:54 Speaker 1: Like Austin Butler has a lot to do in order to grow as an actor. Tom Hardy can really do anything he wants right now, put out a movie like this and then go be Venom. I'm still all on board for Tom Hardy. Just wasn't my favorite performances from either of them, but for the bike Riders, I give it three out of five Leather Jackets. 00:27:18 Speaker 3: It's time to head down to movie Mike treylar Hard I. 00:27:23 Speaker 1: Am always on the quest for my next favorite horror movie. You know, last week I was talking about Smile Too, and I just started get itching for something scary to watch, even outside of spooky season. I think everything gets crowded around October late September. I want a horror movie. Now, give them to me all throughout the year. I like one in January, I like one in February, March. Whenever you can give me a horror movie, I will take it. 00:27:50 Speaker 4: And back. 00:27:51 Speaker 1: When I went to go see Immaculate in theaters about a month maybe two months ago with Sidney Sweeney, I didn't go watch it with her, she's in the movie, but they showed a trailer for this movie called Long Legs, and I remember watching it thinking, Hey, that actually looks pretty good, but I kind of forgot about it. I see so many trailers, see so many movies, sometimes they just kind of slip my mind. But then I was on TikTok the other day, and rarely do I stop and watch an ad, but this ad for this trailer came up and it was Long Legs, and I was like, oh, yeah, that looks really good. And they are claiming in that trailer that they are promoting on TikTok that it's gonna be the scariest movie of the year. So that led me to believe, Okay, I gotta go dive into this trailer again and let you guys know if it really looks like it's gonna be that good. It's coming out on July twelfth. It stars Michael Monroe, who at a time back in the twenty tens, whenever she came out in a great horror movie called It Follows, I thought she was going to be the next big thing in horror. 00:28:46 Speaker 2: She really got her start there. 00:28:47 Speaker 1: She was being dubbed at that time the scream Queen, and this is kind of her returning back to her roots, even though that movie only came out ten years ago, but we'll talk more about her. She plays a character in this movie who was an FBI agent named Lee Harker. She is assigned to an unsolved serial killer case that takes an unexpected turn revealing evidence of the cult. 00:29:09 Speaker 2: And this trailer is so trippy. 00:29:11 Speaker 1: It has so many cool visual effects that I'll get into. It also has just really great sound design. And what I really love about this trailer before I play it is unlike last week when I was talking about my issue with Smile Too showing you all the scary parts, this trailer doesn't do that. 00:29:29 Speaker 2: It really just gives you the vibes. 00:29:30 Speaker 1: It's almost like going to a Pinterest board and getting ideas and seeing things like that is what I want a trailer to do. Just give me the Pinterest board version coming out pretty soon on July twelfth. Now here's just a little bit of the trailer. Is it scary being a lady FBI agent? 00:29:48 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:29:49 Speaker 2: A little was left with the bodies. 00:29:52 Speaker 4: Sign of one word. I saw a beast strays up out of the sea with seven heads and ten horns. 00:30:11 Speaker 2: Now did that sound get you? What a haunting sound? 00:30:16 Speaker 1: So again it's about Lee Harker, who is assigned to this unsolved serial killer case. She discovers that there's a personal connection to the killer and she must stop them before he strikes again. You also have the one and only Nick Cage in this movie. But if you go watch this trailer, which I highly encourage you. If a movie like this is interesting to you and you're thinking about going to see it, go watch this actual trailer. I will link it in the episode notes because I think this is one you need to see and it has this almost eighties seventies style horror vibe to it. 00:30:50 Speaker 2: If it had that old school voiceover guy. 00:30:53 Speaker 1: It would definitely feel like that. But like I mentioned, Nick Cage is never shown in this trailer, which I think speaks vavolumes to have somebody at an a less status of Nick Cage. 00:31:04 Speaker 2: Well, it could be one or two things. 00:31:06 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't want to show him in the trailer because then people would feel a certain way about it. But I feel coming from a studio like Neon, which he does have a relationship with, I feel like you would show his face in order to tell people, hey, look, Nick Cage is in a new horror movie. And I think The reason for them not to actually put him in the trailer or in any of the promotional materials that I've seen is because they believe so much in the story, but also it probably creates a lot more of a mystery. You do hear his voice there, So here's just a little bit of Nick Cage's voice in this movie. So that's creepy in itself. He is going to be the Long Legs character. I'm not sure that we're ever gonna get a full reveal of the monster in this movie, but if we do, I'm glad that I didn't waste it or even give us a glimpse of it in the trailer. The whole idea of long Legs kind of reminds me of the slender Man, which was a myth on the internet. They also made a movie on that, but it has that urban legend vibe to it. Again, I just keep going back to some of these sounds, all the sound effects using this trailer to create this weird, creepy feeling. I just love it, Like I don't know what that sound is. Again, I'm sorry if I'm freaking you out, but it freaked me out. I don't know how you make this sound, I'll turn it down a little bit like that is just creepy in itself, and I imagine myself in the theater watching it and being able to feel that in my chest. That is the feeling that I crave and the feeling that I search for when going to watch a horror movie. 00:32:55 Speaker 2: So I am really looking forward to that. 00:32:58 Speaker 1: The only thing I can't get a grasp on with these movies that are about one character researching something is that sometimes you can cut a trailer to make it look like it's gonna have a lot of action, make it look like there's gonna be a lot of scary elements. But then once you go watch a movie like this, sometimes it's so spacey and drawn out. So I think the key to this movie being good or not is going to be the pacing, because I have no doubt that we're gonna get a great performance from Michael Monroe, who, like I was mentioning earlier, is in a fantastic horror movie. That was her breakthrough role. It follows if you haven't seen It follows. For a while in the twenty tens, it was my go to horror recommendation. It was between It follows Your Next and The Conjuring, which is probably my favorite of the twenty tens, but it follows, is such a good movie. She plays a character who is a teenager. She hooks up for the first time, and then she finds out this evil demonic entity latched onto herself and that is the way that this d goes from one person to the other. So a great horror movie. Go check it out on Netflix. But she is so good in that movie, and now is her return to horror, going back to her roots from only ten years ago. I can't wait to see how she takes on this role. I also just watched her in a movie called The Stranger, which was originally a mini series. They came out in twenty twenty, so even though it came out a while ago, what they did was re edit the TV show into a movie and it just was added recently on Hulu. I watched it and it's a pretty good watch. I thought she did pretty good in it. I can kind of tell that it felt a little bit like a TV movie because that is initially how it was put out into the world. But I think it's interesting that people kind of recognize that essentially mini series that come out now are really just long movies. So I think that is an interesting way to approach media and take something that is already out and existed in the world and turn it into something new, which I think that could lead to something down the road of doing it the opposite way. 00:35:04 Speaker 2: I love long movies, but by. 00:35:05 Speaker 1: Doing this podcast, I hear that a lot of people hate long movies. Some don't want to go to the theater and watch a two and a half three hour movie because they think that is too long. I think you can get to a point where you put out a movie in theaters it's two and a half three hours long, and then later you get a director's cut, and usually the director's cut is much longer. I think instead you get a director's cut where it's sliced into smaller digestible pieces and put on the internet like a mini series. You could do that for people who want to consume it that way, and then you could do the opposite. If a movie does really well as a mini series, take out the filler episodes and then put the best of into one movie. Because I will continue to defend long movies, but what I don't get is when people defend TV shows that start out slow or have boring episodes and say, oh, it's a building episode, take that out, cut it up, put it into a movie, and then I'll watch it. So that was the only recent example I saw of someone doing that, and I hope that other people get an idea to take some existing content and package it in a different way and see if it's more successful with streaming, there are no rules. But back to long Legs, I think this movie is crushing it with all of the promotion they are doing. They did a really interesting thing rolling out the full trailer back a couple few months ago, where they would just poset random videos on Neon's YouTube channel with no attachment to the movie. They just had really simple titles and were very ominous, like this one that just had some old photos from a family and a nine to one one call over it time on. 00:36:46 Speaker 4: What's your reversion? 00:36:47 Speaker 1: Pate, that's my daughter? 00:36:53 Speaker 2: I kind of be quiet. 00:36:55 Speaker 4: Sea daughter. 00:37:04 Speaker 2: How creepy is that? 00:37:05 Speaker 1: I just love the idea that they are doing and making this movie feel like it actually exists in our world. I think they are playing off the fact that a lot of people are obsessed with true crime. I myself have a little bit of a problem getting into it, just because it's weird to get so involved in real people's lives who lost people tragically, and for us to take that and turn that into content. Some movies are even hard for me to watch that are based on true events where those people are still living. Mainly you get TV shows and podcasts that do that. I try not to dabbling it anymore because it just feels weird and eerie to me and a little bit disrespectful to some of those people's families who are still dealing with that, and suddenly their actual lives are turned into content that other people are just digging up and not thinking about those people. 00:37:56 Speaker 2: But here I feel better about it because. 00:38:00 Speaker 1: Because none of this stuff really happened, but they are creating that same kind of world. Here's some evidence, here's some nine to win one calls. We'll post this like it's actual fact on our YouTube channel and not even say, hey, here's some promotional material for long legs. Just put it out there into the world and let people dive in, eat it up as they will, and they get like half a million views on every video like that. That's twenty second song. Great marketing. I hope that the movie delivers definitely when I'm going to check out in theaters, because I want that feeling, I want to feel that sound. I want to see all these images on the big screen. Because as I was watching the trailer on my laptop, I noticed it was like dark, and not just the. 00:38:41 Speaker 2: Imagery was haunting. 00:38:43 Speaker 1: It was actually so dark that I had to turn up the brightness on my laptop to be able to see it. It kind of reminded me of watching certain seasons a Game of Thrones where it was so dark that we all had to adjust our TVs so we could just see what was going on. It was just people fighting in darkness. And as I did that, I noticed that there were some hidden things in there. There's one point where you see a character just draped in this black sheet, almost looks like a nun, but without the face hole exposed. If you have your screen all the way up, you see this white figure face almost like the Nun from the actual horror movie The Nun. It's just this white, pale face, this demon hiding in there, but you couldn't see it unless your screen brightness was all the way turned up. So I love those Easter eggs as well. Again, I'm gonna link this trailer in the episode notes so you can catch those things for yourself. But again, the movie is coming out on July twelfth. I'm sorry you had to get that in there again and that is gonna do it for another episode here of the podcast. But before I go, I gotta give my listeners shout out of the week this week. I'm going over to my email where you can send me notes, you can send me ideas for podcasts, just react to the episodes. 00:39:54 Speaker 2: Whatever you want to let me know it. 00:39:56 Speaker 1: So for all my people who maybe aren't on social media, hit me up move d at gmail dot com. This week's listener shout out of the week is Noeh, who wrote me this comment and said, Hey, Mike, love the podcast, look forward to it every Monday. I know you read comic books. I was wondering if you have a po box where I could send you a couple comics I think you would enjoy. They are similar to the movies that you like. Thanks Noeh, so I appreciate that. Noeh, thank you for being a part of the Monday Morning Movie crew and also being a fellow comic book reader. I've gotten so deep into comic books. I've gotten a little bit out of collecting the old school comics. I've found pretty much all my major key issues that I was looking for, and all the ones that I would want to have are way too expensive. I'm talking hundreds and thousands of dollars. So unless I find a really good deal on some of the old school Marvel comics that I don't have yet, i think I'm a little bit out of that game. But I'll always keep my eyes open. But right now, I'm just deep into current runs of Deadpool. 00:40:58 Speaker 2: Deadpool and Wolverine. Also currently loving Venom, Separation Anxiety are my three favorites to read right now. So thank you. 00:41:06 Speaker 1: No, I always appreciate that I always feel weird about getting things just because I feel like I'm just the dude. I don't deserve you guys to send me anything, but since they are comics, I don't mind checking it out. 00:41:19 Speaker 2: So appreciate that in a way. 00:41:20 Speaker 1: Thank you right now for listening, whether you're in your car, at the gym, listening on your headphones, or hopefully not creeping outside my window. And until next time, go out and watch good movies, and I will talk to you later.