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<v Speaker 1>He'll be better, go'll be beer. It's the Internet. You're busy.
<v Speaker 2>Let's do this for October twenty third, twenty twenty four.
<v Speaker 2>For the next hour or so, let me help you
<v Speaker 2>sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings
<v Speaker 2>Live with Me Jeff Grubb. Today, Nintendo's games continue to
<v Speaker 2>leak and Astrobot has dominated both My Life and September
<v Speaker 2>video game sales. But first please join me and welcoming
<v Speaker 2>today's co host a Game Mess Mornings. It's Lucy James
<v Speaker 2>Games everybody, Lucy, how are you doing?
<v Speaker 1>How are you feeling?
<v Speaker 3>Hello? I'm doing all right? Thank you? Well, no, I'm
<v Speaker 3>like concerned. Let my hairs do a weird thing, but I.
<v Speaker 4>Am not getting it cut until just before GP at
<v Speaker 4>night inwards.
<v Speaker 3>So this is just something that we're gonna have to
<v Speaker 3>deal with.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, saying that something.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I want to get a haircut, but I
<v Speaker 2>know if I get it now, I won't get.
<v Speaker 1>It closer to the whole thing. And so yeah, get
<v Speaker 1>await a couple more weeks. We'll survive together. It'll be
<v Speaker 1>just say that.
<v Speaker 4>Don't say a couple of weeks because we have so
<v Speaker 4>much planning to do.
<v Speaker 3>Say like six weeks. Five weeks?
<v Speaker 1>How long is it? It's like five? Really, we have
<v Speaker 1>like five weeks. There's definitely some things in there like
<v Speaker 1>that are gonna de real things, So like Thanksgiving, Yeah, Thanksgiving,
<v Speaker 1>I got a I got a Disney for a whole week.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be gone for a whole week the week
<v Speaker 2>before Thanksgiving. So yeah, we'll get some stuff done.
<v Speaker 3>Well, we've got this. It's fine, we'll do.
<v Speaker 1>We got this. It'll be fine. All right, let's see.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah a couple weeks. Yeah, no, Lucy, you got Blake
<v Speaker 1>Club again today? How do you feel about that? You know, I.
<v Speaker 3>Actually had a really lovely time just with you guys.
<v Speaker 1>It's nice.
<v Speaker 4>I it is nice. I have forgotten, like I don't
<v Speaker 4>know just how bad that game feels.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about I think I had a little
<v Speaker 3>dream about it last night.
<v Speaker 4>I fell asleep on the couch at nine point thirty,
<v Speaker 4>so a lot of time for dreaming, and I think
<v Speaker 4>there was just this this moment where I just found
<v Speaker 4>a baby skull and it just came back to me again.
<v Speaker 1>You did find skull, never.
<v Speaker 3>Used, never used, never worn, never worn.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm just I just can't wait to see what
<v Speaker 4>other baby bones we'll find today.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll be able to put together our own baby.
<v Speaker 2>That's that's the idea here, Giant Bomb's own baby.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe by the end we'll have a skeleton.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that that'd be real time.
<v Speaker 4>Put it in the chat yekeletons in chat you got
<v Speaker 4>if you if you have no idea what we're talking about,
<v Speaker 4>you should watch White Club.
<v Speaker 2>Lucy is playing Skull Island Rise of Kong, and it's
<v Speaker 2>not good.
<v Speaker 1>It's not a good video game. It's rough stuff.
<v Speaker 2>But and also it's like very confusing, like how to
<v Speaker 2>like place yourself on the timeline of the game, because
<v Speaker 2>I think, I think the way it works is there's
<v Speaker 2>like five different unlocked skill trees, and I think if
<v Speaker 2>you yes, once you pick one, I think you're locked
<v Speaker 2>into that one for your entire playthrough, because otherwise this
<v Speaker 2>game seems like it should be like fifty hours long,
<v Speaker 2>and by all accounts it's not.
<v Speaker 1>It's like four to six.
<v Speaker 3>So okay, yeah. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Also my favorite part was when the camera just locked
<v Speaker 4>in a like top down and then I couldn't control.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it also does its own thing.
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's going its own way.
<v Speaker 1>It's going its own way, all right.
<v Speaker 3>Going its own way.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his own way. I'm excited about that. It'll be
<v Speaker 1>a good time.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be playing some spooky games after this show today,
<v Speaker 2>and then I'm glad that I didn't get sick. All
<v Speaker 2>the kids got have been getting sick, and but one
<v Speaker 2>bounce back real fast. The other one's in the process
<v Speaker 2>of bouncing back. So I think we're gonna get through this,
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's gonna get it out out of the
<v Speaker 2>way now and then hopefully okay for Disney and Thanksgiving
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm looking now.
<v Speaker 4>I got super sick in London and I've forgotten what
<v Speaker 4>that's like.
<v Speaker 3>And it was not fun.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's rough, very miserable. All right.
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<v Speaker 2>All right, we have a lot to get into, so
<v Speaker 2>let's start the morning mess with September twenty twenty four
<v Speaker 2>US video game market results from Circana.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Matt Piscatella, who works at Circana.
<v Speaker 2>Wrote he writes on Blue Ski. September twenty twenty four
<v Speaker 2>US video game market highlights from Circana projected US total
<v Speaker 2>spending on video game hardware, content, and accessories fell by
<v Speaker 2>six percent during September twenty twenty four when compared to
<v Speaker 2>a year ago. The decline was driven by a forty
<v Speaker 2>four percent drop in hardware spending and a three percent
<v Speaker 2>dip in content spending. He's got all the numbers there
<v Speaker 2>for everybody, but yeah, down six percent video game sales.
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's the total three percent for people buying
<v Speaker 2>video games.
<v Speaker 1>It's there's been up and down all year. That's kind
<v Speaker 1>of in line with.
<v Speaker 2>Like what this year has been doing, although it's been
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit more resilient than people are expecting.
<v Speaker 2>He does have like the year to date total and
<v Speaker 2>it's flat, like video game sales in total are flat,
<v Speaker 2>while a hardware sales still down thirty percent compared to
<v Speaker 2>all of last or the year to date last year.
<v Speaker 2>He writes, twenty twenty four year to date spending, as
<v Speaker 2>I was just saying, was flat with compared to the
<v Speaker 2>same period in twenty twenty three. Mobile content spending for
<v Speaker 2>the year to date period ending September was one point
<v Speaker 2>seven billion dollars higher than a year ago, while console
<v Speaker 2>content spending has fallen by point zero or zero point
<v Speaker 2>eight billion, so eight hundred million dollars.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, councils just could continue to be in a weird spot.
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about like how hardware is doing and all that,
<v Speaker 2>but just on its face, it seems like people aren't
<v Speaker 2>buying a lot of consoles right now.
<v Speaker 1>I continue to chalk that up. Lucy two. People sort
<v Speaker 1>of ran.
<v Speaker 2>Out and got consoles during the pandemic faster than they
<v Speaker 2>may have otherwise, and they're so we're kind of like
<v Speaker 2>still in the you know, the elastic banding process of it.
<v Speaker 1>Everyone like contracted to go.
<v Speaker 2>Buy that, and now a lot of that money has
<v Speaker 2>already been spent, so people aren't continuing to rush out
<v Speaker 2>to buy new consoles. And maybe PS five pro will
<v Speaker 2>actually make a difference here.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe, I mean, I don't know, at that price point,
<v Speaker 4>that's going to be a very selected group of consumers
<v Speaker 4>who will.
<v Speaker 1>Go for it.
<v Speaker 3>I feel, yeah, I think you're probably right.
<v Speaker 4>Lockdown how to sol INDs what better thing to do
<v Speaker 4>than just play video games?
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know, watch Tiger King.
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to think back to my early Lockdown experience
<v Speaker 4>I played yacaz a zero.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's just also surprised that it's down.
<v Speaker 4>It's not really surprising that's down this much like there's
<v Speaker 4>also been such a strange year for game releases, big
<v Speaker 4>things like it's Assins, Creed getting pushed. I mean, obviously
<v Speaker 4>there's Cord coming out this week. Maybe that'll turn the ties,
<v Speaker 4>especially because they're bundling it in on game path. But
<v Speaker 4>then at the same time, if everyone already has a console,
<v Speaker 4>who wants a console?
<v Speaker 3>Maybe not?
<v Speaker 1>Yep.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's tough to sort of change the sentiment of
<v Speaker 2>people who are like I've decided I either have the
<v Speaker 2>thing I want and I'm happy I'm going to continue
<v Speaker 2>playing the game. So I've been playing, which is you know,
<v Speaker 2>defferentely part of this story is a lot of people
<v Speaker 2>bought their consoles and they're using to play Fortnite and
<v Speaker 2>Call of Duty war Zone, things they already have access to,
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, okay, well that behavior is tough to reroute. Meanwhile,
<v Speaker 2>you know, more people as they come into gaming, seems
<v Speaker 2>like it's it's just it's still the phone.
<v Speaker 1>It's still mobile gaming.
<v Speaker 2>That's not necessarily an exciting space in terms of big
<v Speaker 2>new mobile releases.
<v Speaker 1>Are making the difference. It's just those same games of
<v Speaker 1>you know, Brawl Stars.
<v Speaker 2>In this report, brawl Stars apparently was up sixty four
<v Speaker 2>percent year over year or month over month something like that.
<v Speaker 3>I think, am I out of touch? No, it's the kids.
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely the kids who are wrong.
<v Speaker 3>What is that? I think it's from Clash of Clans
<v Speaker 3>in Class Royal.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and they put SpongeBob in it. They put SpongeBob
<v Speaker 1>in Bral Stars and that's why they was up sixty.
<v Speaker 3>Four little to it will be at anything, Yes.
<v Speaker 2>He will, he is, Yes, definitely. Permission in Wicked, yeah really.
<v Speaker 4>Well and then like the guy you played him on
<v Speaker 4>stage two, Kenny No, no, no, are the guy Ethan something later,
<v Speaker 4>Ethan Slater. He was SpongeBob in the musical. Oh and
<v Speaker 4>then Ariana Grande got with him.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's absurd.
<v Speaker 2>And to think Tom Kenny could be in Wicked Okay,
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I mean.
<v Speaker 4>Tom kennyet one hundred percent being Wicked. I think I
<v Speaker 4>think he should be Wicked because that movie looks like.
<v Speaker 1>A sorry, yeah, it looks a bit I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>washed out.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and don't understand that the color grading and the
<v Speaker 4>lighting looks very weird.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's they continue to do the thing which
<v Speaker 2>I actually I love this. They continue to hide the
<v Speaker 2>fact that it's a musical in all the trailers, and
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's Wicked.
<v Speaker 3>What do people exc to the fact that it's part
<v Speaker 3>one of two?
<v Speaker 1>Is it really? I didn't know that? Yeah, they got me,
<v Speaker 1>they got my asses. That's crazy. What why are they
<v Speaker 1>getting that? Okay?
<v Speaker 2>And they have to hide those things because people hate
<v Speaker 2>both those things apparently, or at least they won't go
<v Speaker 2>see like a part one and they won't go see
<v Speaker 2>a musical they know it's a musical.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, Jan is all Cap saying all the good
<v Speaker 4>songs are an act one Act two sucks, which I've
<v Speaker 4>heard from all of my musical theater friends too.
<v Speaker 1>So no, there you go, and you don't even need
<v Speaker 1>a part two.
<v Speaker 2>For the month of September, we have the charted sales here.
<v Speaker 2>EA Sports Football Club twenty five was number one. This
<v Speaker 2>is in the United States. Most of this will include
<v Speaker 2>physical and digital. It'll be noted where it doesn't. Astrobot
<v Speaker 2>was number two, you know, exclusive to PS five. Number
<v Speaker 2>two though, right behind EA Sports FC, ahead of Madden
<v Speaker 2>which is in its second month, I believe, of sales.
<v Speaker 2>And it's also head of the Legend of Zelda Echos
<v Speaker 2>of Wisdom, which does only include physical sales.
<v Speaker 1>So that's probably right up there near Astrobot.
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's a really good showing from Astrobot
<v Speaker 2>that yeah, like kind of couldn't expect much more than that.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was hoping, like for the world, but
<v Speaker 2>you know, when I was being reasonable, this is right
<v Speaker 2>where I was like, Hey, this is the high end
<v Speaker 2>of what it could do, right up there around EA
<v Speaker 2>Sports Football Club. Yeah, number two for the month after
<v Speaker 2>the biggest games in the world. Sure, I'll take that,
<v Speaker 2>and I by all accounts, it's like there was a
<v Speaker 2>range of expectation for this game and it is at
<v Speaker 2>the high end of that range, so fantastic, and I
<v Speaker 2>think it's probably going to continue to do well. Right
<v Speaker 2>as word of mouth continues. It's going to be in
<v Speaker 2>the Game of the Year discussion and that could give
<v Speaker 2>it some more legs, right.
<v Speaker 3>I really hope.
<v Speaker 4>So I have a weird question, but I'm considered in
<v Speaker 4>the framing of astrobot. Are your wrists doing with all
<v Speaker 4>the speed running?
<v Speaker 1>So the wrist of my wrists are doing all right?
<v Speaker 2>There was a blister forming on my thumb, kind of
<v Speaker 2>laid off a little bit to help that out. There
<v Speaker 2>was definitely some knuckle pain, probably some i'll just say
<v Speaker 2>it arthritis. I think that was happening a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>I dealt with that.
<v Speaker 1>I did some.
<v Speaker 2>Stretching and some strength exercises when I was about to
<v Speaker 2>go to sleep the other night, kind of just really
<v Speaker 2>like you know what the trick is for that is
<v Speaker 2>you lay on your bed and you imagine, instead of
<v Speaker 2>you are laying on your bed, that the bed is
<v Speaker 2>pushing up against you. And then you let that sort
<v Speaker 2>of work your way through your body until it's like
<v Speaker 2>your hands are pushing against one another. It's a whole thing,
<v Speaker 2>but it worked really well, and now I'm feeling pretty good.
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not feeling great that I'm behind Jesse Fattelli
<v Speaker 2>in terms of my time, and.
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna ask who's who's in the lead.
<v Speaker 2>Jesse just beat me yesterday. I was ahead of everybody
<v Speaker 2>until that point. We are not far off from like
<v Speaker 2>being among the top ten, Like we're like right behind
<v Speaker 2>that crew in the world.
<v Speaker 1>And it's uh.
<v Speaker 2>I my kids got sick, so I couldn't I didn't
<v Speaker 2>have time to play last night or this morning. And
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting worried because the new the new level comes
<v Speaker 2>out tomorrow, and once that happens, it's gonna be hard
<v Speaker 2>to justify going back to this level.
<v Speaker 1>So I got about a day.
<v Speaker 2>To to put to put some time into this last
<v Speaker 2>or this level before it might be lost forever or
<v Speaker 2>at least until all the levels are out, which is
<v Speaker 2>a month away. And then, like we were talking about,
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be busy. I'm gonna be traveling, We're going
<v Speaker 2>to we're going to dance for Extra Life and stuff
<v Speaker 2>like that. So there'll be a weekend coming up pretty
<v Speaker 2>soon where I won't be able to do any of
<v Speaker 2>that time, but still been fun. It's been and I do.
<v Speaker 2>It does feel like Astrobot it's getting quite a bit
<v Speaker 2>of a shine from this moment right now where it
<v Speaker 2>is becoming a speeder on Darling and I yeah, so
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's hitting this moment really well. I
<v Speaker 2>think it'll be there's a good chance it's going to
<v Speaker 2>be nominated for the Kiwis And we saw games like
<v Speaker 2>It Takes Two like really take advantage of that, right
<v Speaker 2>that one game of the year.
<v Speaker 1>Obviously that made a huge difference.
<v Speaker 2>That games sold like something like twenty million copies or something.
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, So I'm hoping Astrobot can have a similar story,
<v Speaker 2>although you know, not multi platform, so I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if it's ever going to be able to sell twenty
<v Speaker 2>million copies. As far as Echoes of Wisdom, I think
<v Speaker 2>that's that's pretty good.
<v Speaker 1>Did it come out late in the month.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it came out pretty late in the month,
<v Speaker 2>But that's a pretty good showing still for a two DSLD.
<v Speaker 2>I think it was sold faster than Links Awakening, which
<v Speaker 2>that that game went on to sell like five six
<v Speaker 2>seven million copies somewhere in that range. So that's that's
<v Speaker 2>pretty good as well.
<v Speaker 1>Other new games on the chart.
<v Speaker 2>NBA two K twenty five this is Physical Only is
<v Speaker 2>at number seven. I suppose you know Legends Old Echoes
<v Speaker 2>of Wisdom Exclusive doing better than you know, Physical Only
<v Speaker 2>doing better than NBA two K twenty five Physical Only
<v Speaker 2>that I guess that does show that Lozelda did pretty well.
<v Speaker 2>Then NHL twenty five was at number nine. A lot
<v Speaker 2>of familiar faces between that and Marvel Versus Capcom Fighting
<v Speaker 2>Collection Kae excuse me, Arcae Classics at number sixteen, and
<v Speaker 2>then number eighteen, Physical Only, Space Marine two, Warhammer forty
<v Speaker 2>K that's at number eighteen. So yeah, a lot of
<v Speaker 2>new games on the chart. And despite all these new games, though,
<v Speaker 2>nothing could really overcome last year. Last September still down
<v Speaker 2>three percent year the year over year, And yeah, it's
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a tough comparison last year. I think people
<v Speaker 2>were just going crazy on Balder Skate three and so
<v Speaker 2>many other games. Yeah, there was just a time like
<v Speaker 2>Tiers of the Kingdom sold twenty million copies in a
<v Speaker 2>couple of months or something like that. So it's just
<v Speaker 2>was always going to be a tough comparison to last year.
<v Speaker 2>They do Matt does have the best selling games of
<v Speaker 2>the year to date. So far, the only new game
<v Speaker 2>to break onto that chart was EA Sports FC twenty
<v Speaker 2>five that went to number ten immediately in its first month.
<v Speaker 2>Number one still EA Sports College Football twenty five probably
<v Speaker 2>going to be number one even after Call of Duty.
<v Speaker 2>There's a real strong chance of that. That game just
<v Speaker 2>continues to crush Helldivers two at number two and last
<v Speaker 2>year's Modern Warfare three at number three. And again that's
<v Speaker 2>only sales for this year.
<v Speaker 3>Suo Side Squad being at sixteen is pretty wild.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, that was just still in the top twenty.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they clearly spent enough money on it that
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to be much higher. They were expecting that
<v Speaker 2>game to be in the top five. But it's not
<v Speaker 2>something that like no one bought, right, Yeah, apparently Astrobot
<v Speaker 2>also was a it's not on this top twenty.
<v Speaker 1>It's number twenty five for the year. According to Matt,
<v Speaker 1>he mentioned that somewhere.
<v Speaker 2>Yay, alright, September video game hardware spending fell forty four percent.
<v Speaker 2>This continues from Matt Piscatella when compared to a year
<v Speaker 2>ago to that's two hundred and fifty one million dollars,
<v Speaker 2>the lowest monthly hardware spend total for a September month
<v Speaker 2>since twenty nineteen, when it was two hundred and forty
<v Speaker 2>two million dollars. Xbox hardware Xbox series hardware spending dropped
<v Speaker 2>fifty four percent year over year, uh PS five was
<v Speaker 2>down forty five percent year over year, and Switch was
<v Speaker 2>down twenty three percent year over year.
<v Speaker 1>They all had sharp declines.
<v Speaker 2>Year to date, hardware spending is now thirty percent lower
<v Speaker 2>than a year ago at two point five billion dollars.
<v Speaker 2>So it's not like, you know, one of these consoles
<v Speaker 2>is dragging down the rest. Everybody's down. And while you know,
<v Speaker 2>PlayStation five was the best selling console, Xbox was number two,
<v Speaker 2>and Switch was number three. Uh Switch was showing the
<v Speaker 2>least amount of decline obviously because it probably was already
<v Speaker 2>on the decline yet last year. Yeah, I mean again,
<v Speaker 2>going back to hardware, it's I think it's going to
<v Speaker 2>be harder and harder for Microsoft PlayStation and even Nintendo
<v Speaker 2>to a certain extent coming off of the Switch to
<v Speaker 2>convince consumers that's spending hundreds of dollars on dedicated game hardware.
<v Speaker 2>It's worth it. In a world where phones are so
<v Speaker 2>powerful and also expensive and where people have done that.
<v Speaker 2>They did that, right, They're like, oh, I got a console,
<v Speaker 2>and that I got the switch, I got the PlayStation five,
<v Speaker 2>convincing them to be like to upgrade, to do this
<v Speaker 2>dance again, and then to say and guess what you're
<v Speaker 2>gonna play on there?
<v Speaker 1>Fortnite.
<v Speaker 2>It's just gonna be tough for them to make that
<v Speaker 2>argument going forward, right, Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I mean that's the thing where there's you've got a
<v Speaker 4>console in your pocket basically, and they are doing so
<v Speaker 4>much to help break that barrier to entry to make
<v Speaker 4>it seem like it's a like you can open up
<v Speaker 4>the app store. The thing is, I don't understand. Maybe
<v Speaker 4>it's word of mouth. I open up the app store,
<v Speaker 4>and I just see a pit of despair. Like even
<v Speaker 4>Apple Arcade, which was supposed to be Apple's solution to
<v Speaker 4>all of the crap that gets put on the app Store,
<v Speaker 4>like all those Match three games. Opening up Apple Arcade
<v Speaker 4>recently is just Match three game bullshit yep. And I'm like,
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to go through that.
<v Speaker 3>You do not want to look at any of that,
<v Speaker 3>Like it's just not compelling to me.
<v Speaker 4>However, I guess kids on the playground who and Hellokity Island.
<v Speaker 4>You're right, John, I'm sorry Hellokity Island and Patent and Bilatero.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, like there are there are bright spots right and
<v Speaker 1>it's but it's right spots.
<v Speaker 4>But I don't understand you know, everything everything else, Like
<v Speaker 4>they have ads at the top of everything. So it's
<v Speaker 4>just like I don't know a lot. It's kind of
<v Speaker 4>the same issue having with a lot of the console
<v Speaker 4>games that are just like sticking around where it's like
<v Speaker 4>the big hitters stay big because they spend and then
<v Speaker 4>they get pushed to the top of the app store,
<v Speaker 4>they get pushed into everyone's recommendations, and it's not really
<v Speaker 4>a fun ecosystem for discovery anymore.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it definitely isn't.
<v Speaker 2>It's which is why, like you know, uh, I hope
<v Speaker 2>that console and PC game can continue to thrive and
<v Speaker 2>grow and bring in new people.
<v Speaker 1>And it definitely is to a certain extense, just it's
<v Speaker 1>in it.
<v Speaker 2>It does seem like it's in a law period or
<v Speaker 2>it seems like it's at like a somewhat of a
<v Speaker 2>valley in terms of growth for the future. And that
<v Speaker 2>leads to situations where these big companies that make big
<v Speaker 2>games or could make exciting bets and take chances are
<v Speaker 2>becoming more conservative, risk averse and scared of producing games.
<v Speaker 2>And it's like it comes back to reports like this
<v Speaker 2>where they see, okay, yeah, game, the games are selling.
<v Speaker 2>That's you know, billions of dollars spend on games per
<v Speaker 2>month in the United States. Sure, but where is it trending. Well,
<v Speaker 2>it's trending down and okay, well maybe it's going to
<v Speaker 2>bounce back up. Well, well, people aren't buying hardware. People are
<v Speaker 2>buying less hardware this year than they were last year.
<v Speaker 2>So that means, you know, kind of you think about it,
<v Speaker 2>there will be it's shrinking in terms of the potential
<v Speaker 2>for a future audience. It's not like there's going to
<v Speaker 2>be a ton of new people there to buy your
<v Speaker 2>games the next time. You If you spend two hundred
<v Speaker 2>million dollars now to build a game that comes out
<v Speaker 2>in five years, it feels like the line is going down,
<v Speaker 2>so the time that by the time that's ready, you
<v Speaker 2>might be selling to the same cynical gamers that have
<v Speaker 2>been screaming about games all year. And is that worth it?
<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of these companies right now
<v Speaker 2>are thinking no. So And of course we have a
<v Speaker 2>factors where these things could change switch to comes out
<v Speaker 2>next year, Grand Theft Autos six could reinvigorate all kinds
<v Speaker 2>of sales across the board because people just get excited.
<v Speaker 1>About gaming again. Who knows, but in this moment.
<v Speaker 2>These companies are are looking at these trends and continue
<v Speaker 2>to be scared about the traditional style of gaming of
<v Speaker 2>console and PC.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they they're not.
<v Speaker 2>They also don't think they're going to turn to mobile
<v Speaker 2>and be able to crack that market that's already locked
<v Speaker 2>down by those same companies we keep talking about. But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>this this explains a lot of what's happening in terms
<v Speaker 2>of the decisions being made at these companies.
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, it's it's wild. I mean, I don't know
<v Speaker 3>every everything is such a healthscape at the moment. Line must,
<v Speaker 3>line must go up.
<v Speaker 4>Jeff, I want to take us out of this side
<v Speaker 4>conversation because OG two octo.
<v Speaker 1>Octo Yeah, I think that's sacked too, but I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>Just put this in chat and uh, you know class obscure,
<v Speaker 4>terrible first half of the name. But Expedition thirty three, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>they've released a new trailer.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I've just dropped it in there and.
<v Speaker 4>It's for the French voice cast and it's called the
<v Speaker 4>Baguett Trailer.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.
<v Speaker 4>And the unlockable character outfits are fucking incredible.
<v Speaker 1>Now does ben Star do the French one?
<v Speaker 3>Does he put on a French accent? I don't know French.
<v Speaker 2>I'm almost I'm gonna message him.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, are you in French game? This?
<v Speaker 3>No, he's in French game. But does he speak French?
<v Speaker 1>And oh? Yeah? This game is this game?
<v Speaker 2>This game is also just from France, right, Oh my god?
<v Speaker 2>These French app Yeah, there we go, everybody. You can
<v Speaker 2>Now you can see if you're watching the video version,
<v Speaker 2>they're they're wearing the traditional like basically when you see
<v Speaker 2>a mime just they're not wearing the mime makeup or
<v Speaker 2>is he no, he's just dirty?
<v Speaker 1>Never mind.
<v Speaker 2>H So that's pretty good. I continue to be excited
<v Speaker 2>about this game. You know, I like, I like an
<v Speaker 2>RBG here and there.
<v Speaker 3>This looks like it. I sort of games. Calm it
<v Speaker 3>fucks like it's awesome.
<v Speaker 4>Always typing. Actually he stopped typing. He said, I can't.
<v Speaker 1>And it's not that he doesn't speak French. She just can't.
<v Speaker 1>It hurts too much.
<v Speaker 3>He says, well, yeah, because he's a good British boy. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>that's that's right exactly. He said, I can't sorry, just we.
<v Speaker 1>Can't perfect no notes, Thank you so much.
<v Speaker 3>Ben disappointed.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, he knows that we're always disappointed, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, boy, it does feel like the RPG genre,
<v Speaker 2>RPG RPG genre is uh like French little Yes, I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna say it from now on, a lot of games
<v Speaker 2>coming out in that genre, and this is a doesn't
<v Speaker 2>look like it's gonna slow down next year with this
<v Speaker 2>baget trailer coming out.
<v Speaker 1>Boy, then this game just looks shit hot. I'm sorry
<v Speaker 1>to put it back up for everybody. It just got
<v Speaker 1>It's got such a flare to it.
<v Speaker 2>These people are very dirty though, Why are they so dirty?
<v Speaker 1>Is that dirty mud or blood? Or yes?
<v Speaker 3>I mean the bit I saw.
<v Speaker 4>They were in like this underwater thing fighting monsters. Ben says,
<v Speaker 4>I got an a star at GCSE in French, which
<v Speaker 4>is very good. That's the highest grade you can get.
<v Speaker 4>And then he said to you, but yeah, give my
<v Speaker 4>love to.
<v Speaker 1>Grub me love to you as well.
<v Speaker 3>Ben start, Yeah, that's not really it's a real grade
<v Speaker 3>a star, A B C D you, I think is
<v Speaker 3>the worst one you can go g C.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he gets just making determined Yep, all right,
<v Speaker 2>Claire obscure x Explore D three.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's still come out of twenty twenty five?
<v Speaker 1>Is that? Have they even said that.
<v Speaker 4>It's a spring It says Spring twenty five is at
<v Speaker 4>the bottom of the YouTube.
<v Speaker 1>Mission, right there, Spring twenty twenty five.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool, all right, So that's going to be another
<v Speaker 2>one of those games that comes out as we are
<v Speaker 2>like still playing Monster Hunter in a million other games,
<v Speaker 2>but I look forward to that.
<v Speaker 1>So there you go, the baget trailer. It's in your face.
<v Speaker 2>Let's move on to most of Prince of Persia. The
<v Speaker 2>Lost Crown team shifted to other projects. We talked a
<v Speaker 2>little bit about this yesterday. We got a few more
<v Speaker 2>of the details after the BombCast is from Evan Campbell
<v Speaker 2>at GameSpot. It sounds as if Sands in the Hourglass
<v Speaker 2>have run out for a sequel to the Prince of
<v Speaker 2>Persia The Lost Crown. Ubisoftis has decided to move a
<v Speaker 2>majority of the team who worked on the Metro Avigna
<v Speaker 2>to other projects at the company.
<v Speaker 1>Prince of Persia.
<v Speaker 2>The Lost Crown senior producer Abil heck Elgus issued a
<v Speaker 2>statement to GameSpot confirming that the games team is no
<v Speaker 2>longer together. Most of the team members who worked on
<v Speaker 2>Prince of Persia The Lost Crown have shifted to other
<v Speaker 2>projects that will benefit from their expertise. They said, we
<v Speaker 2>know players have a love for this brand, and you'd
<v Speaker 2>be something excited to bring more Prince of Persia experiences
<v Speaker 2>in the future, just not these ones. The game, of
<v Speaker 2>course did very well and uh in terms of critical reception,
<v Speaker 2>and then in terms of a commercial it was not
<v Speaker 2>available on Steam at launch, did not come to Steam
<v Speaker 2>until August, so you know it was on it launched
<v Speaker 2>in January. It was just missing a huge chunk of
<v Speaker 2>potential audience for a very long time. It's a fifty dollars,
<v Speaker 2>you know, side scrolling game. A lot of people just
<v Speaker 2>bristleed that on principle, and they did didn't. It seems
<v Speaker 2>like most people didn't give it a chance. And if
<v Speaker 2>they were going to give it a chance, a lot
<v Speaker 2>of people said, I'll wait till it's on Steam, and
<v Speaker 2>then by the time it was on Steam, they had forgotten,
<v Speaker 2>moved on, spent their money on other stuff, and really
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't doesn't seem like it mattered because I think
<v Speaker 2>this decision, according to the reporting, was made weeks after
<v Speaker 2>the game was released, so long, long, long before it
<v Speaker 2>was ever given a chance to release on Steam.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I get games need to perform to justify going, but
<v Speaker 2>I lay a lot of the blame for this at
<v Speaker 2>Ubisoft's feet.
<v Speaker 4>How about you, oh one hundred, Like they had such
<v Speaker 4>a good window too, in terms of there was nothing
<v Speaker 4>else coming out. They fucking put it on you Play,
<v Speaker 4>which is a system that, like, I will give them,
<v Speaker 4>I will give them. I'm actually wearing a fucking Ubisoft
<v Speaker 4>shirt because I didn't realize what we were talking about
<v Speaker 4>this it's really comfy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>The thing about Ubosoft.
<v Speaker 4>They homogenized the way that they made games, Like so
<v Speaker 4>many of their games of the past ten years have
<v Speaker 4>just slowly, you like, drawn towards this same formula, and
<v Speaker 4>every Ubisoft game feels like a Ubisoft game, And that
<v Speaker 4>can be a blessing and a curse.
<v Speaker 3>Don't get me wrong. I love the feeling of.
<v Speaker 4>Booting up Assassin's Creed or something and feeling like I
<v Speaker 4>understand the language of the game and I know exactly
<v Speaker 4>what I'm doing I know how this game works, I
<v Speaker 4>know how this world works.
<v Speaker 3>I know what impact I can have on it.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 4>However, at the same time, Ubosoft has become incredibly risk averse.
<v Speaker 4>Its development teams are too big, Like there is no
<v Speaker 4>need to have that many studios working on shit around
<v Speaker 4>the world for that long.
<v Speaker 3>It scullum bones, I'm looking at you, right.
<v Speaker 4>And then they used to have, like ten years ago,
<v Speaker 4>they had this really great incubation like Team Well, like
<v Speaker 4>I guess it was a label within their own within Ubisoft,
<v Speaker 4>Like that's where Child of Light, Valiant Hearts, even Raymann
<v Speaker 4>Origins like that, those kind of things.
<v Speaker 3>Those kind of games came out from these smaller.
<v Speaker 4>Projects that were buy and by really really good, and
<v Speaker 4>then Ubosoft was like, well, they're not moving the needle enough.
<v Speaker 3>We're going to put everyone back on.
<v Speaker 4>Assassin's Creed and Lost Crown was this glimmer of hope
<v Speaker 4>that Ubisoft had realized that they needed more innovation, They
<v Speaker 4>needed more interesting titles, they needed more things to do
<v Speaker 4>with the incredible licenses an ip that they have, and
<v Speaker 4>then they fuck it by putting it on a system
<v Speaker 4>that no one has, like no one wants ender the
<v Speaker 4>store front. No, why didn't you just put it on Steam? Yes,
<v Speaker 4>you get a bigger rev shit, but whatever. Anyway, it's
<v Speaker 4>really really frustrating because this game was so good and
<v Speaker 4>there was so many like I can easily see an
<v Speaker 4>Assassin's creed in this in this vein, you know, yes,
<v Speaker 4>easily see other other franchises that they own could be
<v Speaker 4>given to other teams to do interesting things with.
<v Speaker 3>And it kills me that, no, like what are they
<v Speaker 3>getting put on? The getting put on?
<v Speaker 2>Uh?
<v Speaker 3>I can't read?
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I think I saw it in a tweet, but
<v Speaker 4>it's just like, hey, there's gonna be like a Raymann
<v Speaker 4>thing and there's gonna be this thing.
<v Speaker 2>In this oh yeah yeah, and apparently like this might
<v Speaker 2>result in a Raymn, But to me that sounds like
<v Speaker 2>something you say to soften the blood, like well, this
<v Speaker 2>gets us a Raymn, And it's like I'll believe that
<v Speaker 2>when I see it. Yeah, but yeah, I think that
<v Speaker 2>you'd be saft. Just it was in this weird in
<v Speaker 2>between phase where they're like are we going Steam?
<v Speaker 1>Are we not? They were going back and forth.
<v Speaker 2>Since then, they had you know, the major some major
<v Speaker 2>like stumbling blocks and or failures like Star Wars Outlaws
<v Speaker 2>comes out, and is you know that the reviews are
<v Speaker 2>in between mixed all this stuff that there's some people
<v Speaker 2>like it, some people really don't like it.
<v Speaker 1>But in the.
<v Speaker 2>Wake of that, I think they've said, well, we're coming
<v Speaker 2>back to Steam. Our stuff's going to be on Steam.
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, okay, man, wow, you just you make
<v Speaker 2>these decisions a bit too late, and it doesn't seem
<v Speaker 2>like it's going to help the games that are coming
<v Speaker 2>out now because Sassa's Creed Assassine Creed would have done fine,
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna sell a ton on consoles.
<v Speaker 1>It's it's gonna be fine.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Yeah, put it on Steam for sure, do
<v Speaker 2>your thing. But it would have helped out Prince Persia
<v Speaker 2>a ton. It would have helped out Star Wars Outlaws
<v Speaker 2>a ton. Uh So yeah, just kind of seems weird.
<v Speaker 3>Persia is on Steam, right.
<v Speaker 2>It came out on Steam in August. It was introduced
<v Speaker 2>i think a disc at a discount. Yeah, it was you, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>the Prince of Persia, the Rogue Prince. That one's early
<v Speaker 2>access and the weird thing. This one was just like
<v Speaker 2>kind of just kind of stumbled on the Steam eventually. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>Ubisoft seems hopeless to me, That's really what it is.
<v Speaker 2>It seems hopeless in terms of the people running that
<v Speaker 2>company knowing how to make the most out of the
<v Speaker 2>work that their teams are doing. And the teams are
<v Speaker 2>mostly doing pretty good work. Uh when when they're when
<v Speaker 2>they are given the chance to stretch their legs. I
<v Speaker 2>know that people are sick of the Ubi Soft style
<v Speaker 2>game uh, and there's kind of not much to be
<v Speaker 2>done about that until, like, you know, they break through
<v Speaker 2>onto some new uh formula. But as it stands right now,
<v Speaker 2>that they have people, they're gonna have just kind of
<v Speaker 2>up continue doing their best work in the confinence with
<v Speaker 2>which within which they work. But yeah, and then then
<v Speaker 2>when they put their game out, the Ubi Soft corporate structure.
<v Speaker 1>Is going to screw it up once again.
<v Speaker 2>It seems like, So yeah, I feel bad for everyone
<v Speaker 2>who's doing hard work over there. All right, let's let's
<v Speaker 2>take a quick break. When we come back. Batman Arkham
<v Speaker 2>shadow reviews are in. Mario and Luigi Brothers ship has
<v Speaker 2>leaked a whole bunch more.
<v Speaker 3>Right after this, my cats were fighting.
<v Speaker 1>Don't fight, kiddies.
<v Speaker 3>Don't be a bully.
<v Speaker 2>Peanut, Peanuts, stop being a Bully and we're back as well. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>let's let's talk about Batman Arkham Shadow, which is that
<v Speaker 2>new VR Batman game, which you know, I think I've
<v Speaker 2>heard people before it came out be like that one
<v Speaker 2>seems like it's gonna be pretty good. So you know,
<v Speaker 2>Camouflage is making it. They make good VR games, and
<v Speaker 2>I wonder, is this something that's going to register on
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people's radars, And I think, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to tell right now, but like you look,
<v Speaker 2>I look at this on Open Critic at least, it
<v Speaker 2>has just five reviews, and it's like, okay, yeah, that's
<v Speaker 2>people just aren't going to pick up their VR thing
<v Speaker 2>to even review a new exciting Batman game.
<v Speaker 3>But on those it's three only My Quest.
<v Speaker 1>Three three Quest three, yes, just came in. But you know,
<v Speaker 1>Medo Quest three has been on sale for a while.
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's been the one. I think it's probably
<v Speaker 2>sold the best. I think they had at.
<v Speaker 1>A pretty competitive price for a while. I think they did.
<v Speaker 2>Eventually raise the price because it was to a selling
<v Speaker 2>well during the pandemic or something like that. But yeah, yes,
<v Speaker 2>you know, definitely, but yeah, five reviews, including Dan Stapleton
<v Speaker 2>at IGN who gave it an eight and wrote, Batman
<v Speaker 2>Arkham Shadow makes most of the Arkham series, is defining
<v Speaker 2>gameplay work respectably well in VR, and its mystery story
<v Speaker 2>pays off. Graham Russell ex Silicon EA gave it an eight. Well,
<v Speaker 2>may not have the immersive mechanics to be a great
<v Speaker 2>VR introduction, Batman Arkham Shadow is fun to play and
<v Speaker 2>faithful to its Arkham predecessors, and yeah, picking off enemies
<v Speaker 2>one by one feels great. David Verdette at Gaming Trend
<v Speaker 2>gave it a ninety and said Batman Arkham Shadow is
<v Speaker 2>the latest must buy VR title and does its namesake justice.
<v Speaker 2>Being Batman is something you dream of, and Camouflage has
<v Speaker 2>done great work in putting you under the cow. Where
<v Speaker 2>some teams would simply offer a short VR experience, the
<v Speaker 2>team has crafted a game rich in depth between combat, exploration,
<v Speaker 2>and story. So yeah, it sounds like they've done just
<v Speaker 2>about as well as they could with what they were
<v Speaker 2>working with here.
<v Speaker 1>I've played it.
<v Speaker 4>I played it at games Come Yeah, and it rocked. However,
<v Speaker 4>I get really bad motion sickness and I want to
<v Speaker 4>play it at home right because like.
<v Speaker 3>Being at a convention.
<v Speaker 4>You can't just sit and you know you've got like
<v Speaker 4>an hour long appointment. You can't just sit and go well,
<v Speaker 4>I need to specifically fine tune every single thing to
<v Speaker 4>my needs.
<v Speaker 3>And like you know, so I.
<v Speaker 4>Didn't get to play too much of what I did play, Like,
<v Speaker 4>the combat was awesome, Like a guy, you know, the
<v Speaker 4>counter thing would come up and you would just like
<v Speaker 4>punch him off screen. You can like throw a bat around,
<v Speaker 4>you can switch the cape to stun them. That was
<v Speaker 4>the bit where I was like, I'll find it shit
<v Speaker 4>all right?
<v Speaker 1>Good? Yeah, like Super Mario World, Okay, I like that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well all the Batman games.
<v Speaker 2>Or the Batman game of course, yes, it's basically the
<v Speaker 2>same thing. Yeah, I'm uh, I'm gonna try to play this.
<v Speaker 2>I think I requested the code. They haven't gotten back
<v Speaker 2>to me, so we'll see what happens there. But I
<v Speaker 2>would like to play this, and if we do, I
<v Speaker 2>don't listen. I'm not gonna I'm probably not gonna get
<v Speaker 2>in the Batman outfit everybody, but maybe we'll maybe we'll
<v Speaker 2>do a verrodeo. Maybe we'll get some VR games together
<v Speaker 2>and play. We most of us have either Quest threes
<v Speaker 2>or some other form of playing, and we can A
<v Speaker 2>lot of these games now are cross platform, so maybe
<v Speaker 2>we can make that.
<v Speaker 4>Out of I go to three and I'm gonna I'm
<v Speaker 4>gonna say this publicly. I don't think anything has been
<v Speaker 4>fumbled harder than the release cadence for Beat Saber packs.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like you could have had a new guitar hero.
<v Speaker 4>I understand the licensing costs money, but it is mad
<v Speaker 4>to me that Beat Saber came out all of those
<v Speaker 4>years ago and we have not had Britney Spears until
<v Speaker 4>this moment.
<v Speaker 1>Really, that is a failure like they had Gaga.
<v Speaker 3>But like right, Billy Eilish, No, I don't want to
<v Speaker 3>be playing Billie Eilish songs. Yeah, okay, fine, Lincoln Park,
<v Speaker 3>I'll do it, but no, I want Brittany. I want
<v Speaker 3>the greats. I want me.
<v Speaker 1>Bitch, not talking to you and talking I do.
<v Speaker 4>Oh No, anyway, that's just in terms of you know,
<v Speaker 4>I know the mod scene is very good, right, but no,
<v Speaker 4>in terms of actual release cadence, and in terms of
<v Speaker 4>them wanting to make money, why are they not anyway?
<v Speaker 1>Yep? Definitely, uh.
<v Speaker 2>I you know what I'm gonna move to get back
<v Speaker 2>in the Better Quest three I've not used in a
<v Speaker 2>few months. Yeah, a few months, and I was having
<v Speaker 2>a good time with it for a while. Excuse me,
<v Speaker 2>something in my throat. All right, someone just sent me this.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna read it blind. It's The Dragon Age the
<v Speaker 2>Vail Guard ESRB rating summary. All right, let's so, let's
<v Speaker 2>go ahead and read this together. This is a role
<v Speaker 2>playing game in which players assume the role of a
<v Speaker 2>warrior Brook trying to defeat corrupt ancient gods from just
<v Speaker 2>from destroyed the worlds of Fetus. That's how it reads.
<v Speaker 3>Theatus.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, theatos, okay, trying to the dos.
<v Speaker 3>No, the dragon Age setting. That's what that sotunds for.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I'm not joking.
<v Speaker 1>The world credible.
<v Speaker 4>The world that Dragonage just said is just called the
<v Speaker 4>dragon Age setting fadus incredible.
<v Speaker 2>So trying to defeat corrupt ancient gods from destroy the
<v Speaker 2>worlds of the dragon Age setting. Players explore environments, interact
<v Speaker 2>with characters, performed quests, and battle enemies in melee ranged
<v Speaker 2>in magical combat. Character characters use swords, arrows, energy bursts,
<v Speaker 2>and elemental texts to defeat various enemies.
<v Speaker 1>Uh.
<v Speaker 2>Combat is highlighted by cries of pains, explosions, and blood
<v Speaker 2>splatter effects. Cutscenes also depict instances of violence and blood.
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, Characters impaled on swords, shriveled corpses amid bloodstained
<v Speaker 2>torture devices. Some scenes depict corpses line and pools slash
<v Speaker 2>large splatters of blood. One boss takes place in a large, full,
<v Speaker 2>full room full of blood. The game contains some sexual material,
<v Speaker 2>Characters kissing, moaning, and straddling each other. Characters caressing each
<v Speaker 2>other while in their underwear. Dialogue referencing sex, for example,
<v Speaker 2>think about us having sex? Are you trying to have
<v Speaker 2>sex with me? Characters are sometimes depicted topless for prolonged
<v Speaker 2>periods of time, example character customization, and or during love scenes.
<v Speaker 1>The word fuck appears in the game. And that's the
<v Speaker 1>end of the rating summary.
<v Speaker 2>That sounds like a video game to me. Yeah, sounds
<v Speaker 2>like a good time. Yeah this game is God. When
<v Speaker 2>is this game out?
<v Speaker 1>Like next week on Halloween? Yeah? Okay, so about eight
<v Speaker 1>days from now? All right?
<v Speaker 3>And I just saw oh yeah, the Monster Hunt of
<v Speaker 3>Wild's open beta will also be Halloween.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? Really? All right?
<v Speaker 4>Well, and so all you're plan Sorry kids when I'm
<v Speaker 4>going trick or treating this year.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we already got the treats at home, and it's
<v Speaker 2>topless character customation customization screens.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>The insane thing about penises though, So maybe they're not
<v Speaker 2>going to do the full ballers Kate three noyeah probably not.
<v Speaker 1>Huh.
<v Speaker 2>All right, back to your regularly scheduled news here. Mario
<v Speaker 2>and Luigi Brothership has.
<v Speaker 1>Reportedly leaked online.
<v Speaker 2>Now, I got in trouble because multiple times yesterday I
<v Speaker 2>called it mother in Luigi on the Yeah, because what
<v Speaker 2>I try to read, everything happens at once in my
<v Speaker 2>brain when I'm reading, and so Mario Luigi Brothership the
<v Speaker 2>Mothership exactly, and it becomes Mothership and then that like
<v Speaker 2>creaks its way over and replaces Mario.
<v Speaker 1>I'll try. I can explain myself. All I want. All
<v Speaker 1>people are.
<v Speaker 2>Mother and Luigi has reportedly leaked online from Liam Doolin
<v Speaker 2>at Nintendo Life. Throughout the Switch generation, first party titles
<v Speaker 2>have often leaked online ahead of their official launch. Now,
<v Speaker 2>following the reveal of the game's credits earlier this week,
<v Speaker 2>Mario and Luigi Brothership has supposedly leaked online, according to
<v Speaker 2>multiple reports at least one person got access to an
<v Speaker 2>early copy of the title and has uploaded the ROM
<v Speaker 2>to the internet. Brothership isn't scheduled to arrive until the seventh,
<v Speaker 2>so quite some time away.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this happens over and over again.
<v Speaker 2>I think it continues to explain Nintendo's behavior recently with
<v Speaker 2>cracking down on copy protection in all various kinds of ways,
<v Speaker 2>suing just about everybody they can has violated anything. And
<v Speaker 2>I think it also like sets the ground for what
<v Speaker 2>the switch to is going to be in terms of
<v Speaker 2>probably it'll probably have very fierce copyright protection, and they
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of the reason that they are launching
<v Speaker 2>that console is to sort of just reset the clock
<v Speaker 2>on piracy. And yeah, because I mean next week a
<v Speaker 2>lot of people are going to be playing this game already.
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna go find you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, right REUJINX has been taken down, you could still
<v Speaker 2>find that the other one now I can't remember, even
<v Speaker 2>though because Nintenda wiped off the face of the planet
<v Speaker 2>uzu Uzu was wiped off the internet. No, there's still
<v Speaker 2>ways to get that despite what Nintendo's done. So people
<v Speaker 2>are gonna go get those emulators play this game starting
<v Speaker 2>right now. And while Nintendo's sales are fine, like not
<v Speaker 2>just fine, they're great. Their games continue to sell very well,
<v Speaker 2>better than most other companies that they gain beta, but
<v Speaker 2>Nintenda thinks they could be better.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so, uh ye, you.
<v Speaker 4>Are the one that was in the steam deck advert.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, it was a great game.
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh someone about just using their Steam Deck to
<v Speaker 2>play switch games and yep there was God that was
<v Speaker 2>funny all right. Bungee Creative team moves to PlayStation. This
<v Speaker 2>is from Sony Sophie McAvoy at Games Industry Dobiz. Bunge's
<v Speaker 2>Creative Studios team has moved to PlayStation Studios to support
<v Speaker 2>its live service games. Former Senior Creative Director of Bungie
<v Speaker 2>Creative I think a bunch of creative Bridget O'Neill share
<v Speaker 2>the news on LinkedIn, writing that the team will build
<v Speaker 2>the foundation for a creative team within PlayStation. O'Neill has
<v Speaker 2>announced she would be taking on the role of Senior
<v Speaker 2>Director of Creative at PlayStation Studios.
<v Speaker 1>Here's a quote from her.
<v Speaker 2>This opportunity to share our experience working on Bunchie titles
<v Speaker 2>with other studios that are building live service games is
<v Speaker 2>so exciting, she wrote, live service is hard and comes
<v Speaker 2>with a unique set of challenges. So with PlayStation and
<v Speaker 2>Bungie working together, we will be able to give a
<v Speaker 2>huge jumpstart on development for new games as they enter
<v Speaker 2>the competitive market. In July, bunche laid off two hundred
<v Speaker 2>and twenty developers, which amounted to seventeen percent of its
<v Speaker 2>overall headcount. In additional, one hundred and fifty five roles
<v Speaker 2>went from Bungie over to Sony and Interactive Entertainment. Seems
<v Speaker 2>like the bulk of that is going to be this
<v Speaker 2>creative solutions team that is responsible for making sure that
<v Speaker 2>the live services all live service. Y. Yeah, it feels
<v Speaker 2>like this was always part of maybe the thinking of
<v Speaker 2>like how bunch you can help Sony, and now they
<v Speaker 2>are just working on all those Sony Interactive Entertainment PlayStation
<v Speaker 2>games like First and the Bungie stuff is not even secondary.
<v Speaker 1>It's not a concern anymore. That's Bungie. Now. What about
<v Speaker 1>how do you read all this?
<v Speaker 3>God, it's like watching the slow, sad demise of Bungee.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it sucks, dude, Yeah, I don't know. I think
<v Speaker 4>PlayStations certainly need help in their live service push. If
<v Speaker 4>the last couple of years have been anything to go by.
<v Speaker 4>But also, who is there anything less exciting than the
<v Speaker 4>phrase creative solutions?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know PlayStation and bunge working together were
<v Speaker 4>able to help them. Yeah, okay, I mean I guess
<v Speaker 4>it's nice that they have a like a dedicated core team. However,
<v Speaker 4>I feel like there's also the flip side of that
<v Speaker 4>where it's like, oh, if you have a dedicated core
<v Speaker 4>team and you know, does that mean that other studios
<v Speaker 4>like have to follow what they say, Like is there
<v Speaker 4>going to be any space left for things like like
<v Speaker 4>other innovation and what if what if Bungee Nix is
<v Speaker 4>the idea?
<v Speaker 3>Right?
<v Speaker 4>And then it's like up, they said we can't do it,
<v Speaker 4>so we can't do it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, That's definitely something we've seen before as well, where
<v Speaker 2>you know, Bungeie went into a bunch of the game,
<v Speaker 2>the live service games that were in the works and
<v Speaker 2>sort of did give reasons why maybe something like Factions
<v Speaker 2>from Naughty Dogs shouldn't even get released, and now it's
<v Speaker 2>not getting released. I think the idea might be with this,
<v Speaker 2>they're going to integrate into these live service teams earlier
<v Speaker 2>so they don't get to that point, so they know
<v Speaker 2>the best practices. But I think that the idea that
<v Speaker 2>you know and understand, even as bungee the best practices
<v Speaker 2>for making a live service game has kind of proven
<v Speaker 2>untrue a lot of like over and over again, where
<v Speaker 2>it's like we think we know what we're doing, We're
<v Speaker 2>going to make this new expansion. Guess what we screwed
<v Speaker 2>up in a new and surprising way. We did something
<v Speaker 2>that annoyed our fans in a new and surprising way
<v Speaker 2>that we could not have anticipated.
<v Speaker 1>And it just seems like.
<v Speaker 2>You have to make this stuff screw up and then
<v Speaker 2>fix it. And that's live service games, at least on
<v Speaker 2>the console. On PC side, I think maybe things are
<v Speaker 2>the scales smaller on mobile, and maybe the mobile gamer
<v Speaker 2>once things that are more rote, more predictable, so it's
<v Speaker 2>easy just to give them the match three game they want.
<v Speaker 2>But when you're trying to make a big, complicated game
<v Speaker 2>that has a lot of moving parts on console and
<v Speaker 2>you try to keep very particular gamers happy and then
<v Speaker 2>also trying to surprise and delight them, I.
<v Speaker 1>Think it's like you're just gonna keep making new.
<v Speaker 2>Mistakes, and I guess you can go in there as
<v Speaker 2>the Bungee team that's been through the stuff. Now it's
<v Speaker 2>Sony in our interactive entertainment and say, here's the stuff
<v Speaker 2>we have learned, here's the stuff we know doesn't work.
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I think people could like look over
<v Speaker 2>it at Destiny and copy a lot of that stuff
<v Speaker 2>without needing that. And no one's really been able to
<v Speaker 2>do that because it's just so hard to make these games.
<v Speaker 2>It feels like people need to fail on their own
<v Speaker 2>to figure it out.
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I don't blame Sony for trying to avoid that. It
<v Speaker 2>would save them a lot of money if they could
<v Speaker 2>just get these things out in a better situation the
<v Speaker 2>first time, so they can get to the micro transactions
<v Speaker 2>rather than here's the free update to fix all the
<v Speaker 2>stuff we screwed up.
<v Speaker 4>Right, It's almost as if getting in on the ground
<v Speaker 4>floor with goodwill instead of earning trust back would probably.
<v Speaker 2>Be Yeah, I think that's the whole business, you know,
<v Speaker 2>case for this, and at the very least, you know,
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty five jobs saved, because otherwise, you know,
<v Speaker 2>if they weren't doing this, what would they be doing.
<v Speaker 2>So the very least, I'm glad that Sony seasonded for
<v Speaker 2>these people, and I hope that it results and it seems.
<v Speaker 3>Value on those people. That's I think one of the
<v Speaker 3>bigges things.
<v Speaker 4>That's like, you know, layoffs get reported and you know
<v Speaker 4>you are losing all of that institutionalized knowledge, and you know,
<v Speaker 4>people who have been at their craft for so long
<v Speaker 4>and they get booted because of mistakes made by people
<v Speaker 4>by not then basically, and so I am really glad that,
<v Speaker 4>like one of the big things that I've heard from
<v Speaker 4>people who have been lid off is that they just
<v Speaker 4>feel so.
<v Speaker 3>Devaluates, devalued, unvalued.
<v Speaker 1>What the hell is the phrase he devalued? That's right, he.
<v Speaker 3>Valued as a human being and in their skills. And
<v Speaker 3>so this is, you know, the pixel.
<v Speaker 4>With the silver lining is that these people's value has
<v Speaker 4>been seen and like kind of hopefully will be taken
<v Speaker 4>into account in the new role.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's been such a shit fucking.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>And for what are they doing? I should say, what
<v Speaker 3>do they They don't.
<v Speaker 2>They definitely don't know what they're doing for Bungee Uh
<v Speaker 2>Marathon continues to feel like this thing where listen, we
<v Speaker 2>know destiny what it is and what the fans want
<v Speaker 2>from that. And the plan going forward for Destiny Too
<v Speaker 2>has been let's make more frequent content, but lesser it'll be.
<v Speaker 2>It will not be quite as robust as the previous
<v Speaker 2>giant content content releases, the expansions where I do smaller
<v Speaker 2>things more frequently, and I think it's reasonable to expect
<v Speaker 2>Destiny fans aren't going to be happy with that, although
<v Speaker 2>who knows, they could surprise us and maybe this is
<v Speaker 2>the bright new future.
<v Speaker 1>For Destiny to and it solves all their problems.
<v Speaker 2>The more likely situation is that Marathon is the thing
<v Speaker 2>that actually needs to come out and save them, and boy,
<v Speaker 2>that puts a lot of pressure on that game that
<v Speaker 2>just no one really knows if that's what anyone wants. Now,
<v Speaker 2>I think it's got a better chance of success because
<v Speaker 2>it is Bungee, and Bungie does know how to make
<v Speaker 2>a solid shooter, and if the shooting mechanics are good,
<v Speaker 2>people will show up for that. But if it's you know,
<v Speaker 2>an also ran extraction shooter that people don't even necessarily
<v Speaker 2>care about because maybe the extraction the trend has already
<v Speaker 2>come and gone, that could leave that game in a
<v Speaker 2>bad situation and then what is the future of Bunge
<v Speaker 2>at that point, it feels like there isn't one.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, what do you think?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Marathon definitely feels like the Macro break at this point.
<v Speaker 4>And unfortunately, I mean, there's no faith left, certainly in
<v Speaker 4>Pete Parsons, in Bungee's upper leadership. There is.
<v Speaker 3>I know, like a malaise I guess around the studio,
<v Speaker 3>like Marathon is not getting people excited at this point.
<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing where it's like, maybe they show
<v Speaker 3>off Marathon.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe people go to Bungee and play Marathon and the
<v Speaker 4>word of mouth starts is spread that it's actually a
<v Speaker 4>fantastic game.
<v Speaker 3>I would love for that to happen.
<v Speaker 4>Right now, we're in this weird follow period where it
<v Speaker 4>feels like Bungee can't really say anything about it and
<v Speaker 4>they can't and they can't show it off because it's
<v Speaker 4>not ready.
<v Speaker 3>So yep, we just have to wait and see.
<v Speaker 2>All right, last couple of stories here, Gorilla said that
<v Speaker 2>they are we were done with kill Zone as a team.
<v Speaker 2>That's that's the quote. This is from Jonas Mackie at
<v Speaker 2>Game Reactor ten years ago. Gorilla said goodbye to the
<v Speaker 2>kill Zone series, but fans haven't forgotten about it, and
<v Speaker 2>many are hoping for a new game in the series,
<v Speaker 2>are they or a reboot of one of the first
<v Speaker 2>two installments. But maybe we shouldn't get our hopes up
<v Speaker 2>too high, it seems. In an interview with The Washington
<v Speaker 2>Post via Insider Gaming, the studio's art director Roe Pastama
<v Speaker 2>Postma says it was a very conscious choice to leave
<v Speaker 2>kill Zone, stating they were done with the series. We
<v Speaker 2>were done with it as a team, as a studio,
<v Speaker 2>we needed we needed to refresh the palette. It was,
<v Speaker 2>by choice, the opposite of kill Zone. I think the
<v Speaker 2>themes that this story and characters represent are relatable for
<v Speaker 2>all ages and people, like having a found family or friends.
<v Speaker 1>In finding your place in the world.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, this doesn't mean that the franchise is dead
<v Speaker 2>and buried forever, but there doesn't seem to be a
<v Speaker 2>new kill Zone in the works, and.
<v Speaker 1>That sounds about right.
<v Speaker 2>For one thing, it does seem like Horizon was significantly
<v Speaker 2>more successful than kill Zone ever was, right.
<v Speaker 4>Mm yeah, I mean now instead of a new kill Zone,
<v Speaker 4>we're getting five different Horizon projects or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>We are definitely getting a lot of Horizon how long
<v Speaker 2>before they get sick of Horizon?
<v Speaker 1>Right, if they got sick of kill Zone, I'm saying nothing.
<v Speaker 3>No, I.
<v Speaker 1>She's already sick of it.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, No, It's like it's indicative of the way
<v Speaker 4>that the publisher, like like big publishers work.
<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh my god, this one thing work. Let's
<v Speaker 3>double down and just absolutely milk it to death. It's
<v Speaker 3>so frustrating. It's so frustrating.
<v Speaker 1>Yep.
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, And also, Horizon is a game that I just
<v Speaker 3>I don't get it.
<v Speaker 4>I don't get it, like it's a it's a beautiful game,
<v Speaker 4>but it just yeah, it doesn't make me feel anything,
<v Speaker 4>and I.
<v Speaker 3>Think that is that is it.
<v Speaker 4>I'm not to say that the kill Zone made me
<v Speaker 4>feel deep emotions. I think I played like one kill Zone.
<v Speaker 1>Like kill zones.
<v Speaker 2>The answer, no, way, yes, yeah, I agree with that
<v Speaker 2>if by we them, if I'm me, I don't want
<v Speaker 2>you to go back to kill Zone instead of Horizon.
<v Speaker 1>Make another Horizon. At the very least they're pretty looking.
<v Speaker 2>I mean kill Zone was pretty whatever, but I don't
<v Speaker 2>think kill zones. The answer did you watch the pickle
<v Speaker 2>draft this morning? I put it in the in the
<v Speaker 2>slack the video of the cartoon of you playing skull
<v Speaker 2>Island Ris.
<v Speaker 1>No, not yet.
<v Speaker 3>I need you realize that.
<v Speaker 1>I wake up like right now. I know That's why
<v Speaker 1>I knew you think up like twenty minutes.
<v Speaker 4>Well, I check that we're still on, and then I
<v Speaker 4>just like run around, get ready to make a coffee.
<v Speaker 1>So for you, I get it.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, No, that I'm just I'm just I'm a tired bitch.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I get that too.
<v Speaker 2>But when you get a chance to watch it, there
<v Speaker 2>is there is the bit in there where you do
<v Speaker 2>the impression of ali.
<v Speaker 1>Uh and that's that's. Oh no, I was happy about that.
<v Speaker 1>Oh is it?
<v Speaker 3>My pack is full?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh I should pick that up. Oh my package
<v Speaker 1>pack is full. Oh I should pick that up. Oh
<v Speaker 1>my pack isful. It's very good.
<v Speaker 2>Black op six is make or break for the game
<v Speaker 2>pass strategy. This is an opinion piece over a games
<v Speaker 2>Industry Dot Biz from Rob Fay. He go read it everybody,
<v Speaker 2>but I was. I was wondering if I get your take,
<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, I don't. I don't know if it is,
<v Speaker 2>but not because I think game pass continues to be
<v Speaker 2>the future. I think they've accepted game Pass for what
<v Speaker 2>it is, and now they are actively in pursuit of
<v Speaker 2>the next big strategy to grow, and it's not game Pass.
<v Speaker 1>I think they've already settled on that.
<v Speaker 2>I think if we're talking about make or break, I
<v Speaker 2>think game passes already not like broken, but it's been
<v Speaker 2>broken in and it is what it is, and they
<v Speaker 2>will accept it being I think Phil Spencer said a
<v Speaker 2>year ago, maybe more than that, it's fifteen percent of
<v Speaker 2>our business. Now, we expect you to be fifteen percent
<v Speaker 2>of our business going forward, and that's that. And I
<v Speaker 2>believe them now. And I think it's like whether Call
<v Speaker 2>of Duty helps game Pass or not, it's not about that.
<v Speaker 2>It's about growing sales in other directions.
<v Speaker 1>Does that sound right to you?
<v Speaker 4>I mean yeah, I think at this point you are
<v Speaker 4>a fool if you only have one dedicated like revenue
<v Speaker 4>source and so diversifying. I think game Pass it was
<v Speaker 4>always oh, it's the best deal in gaming, and I
<v Speaker 4>think for a consumer that is still certainly the case.
<v Speaker 3>Developers definitely getting.
<v Speaker 2>Ope, Lucy, we've lost you. You know what I'm lu saying,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do something real quick.
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to change the thing it.
<v Speaker 2>Let's go here us Wes we lost. You're for me, Yes,
<v Speaker 2>you're back for me now, but I'm going to change
<v Speaker 2>the region there we go. It was set to the
<v Speaker 2>US East. I think this will be better. I meant
<v Speaker 2>to do this earlier. It's hard to talking, and I
<v Speaker 2>don't want to do in the middle when you're talking
<v Speaker 2>because it will stop you from talking. But yes, you
<v Speaker 2>were saying that, like, uh.
<v Speaker 1>Call duty.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I still think there will be a
<v Speaker 4>sizable bump for Game Pass with the release of Black Op.
<v Speaker 3>I think if if there isn't, that should be alarm bells.
<v Speaker 4>I'm interested to see here if like what their internal
<v Speaker 4>targets off all that things as well that I do wonder.
<v Speaker 3>I think we as hashtag gamers are kind of I don't.
<v Speaker 4>Know, does it It feels like we've been advertised something
<v Speaker 4>that we already know about. Do you think Xbox is
<v Speaker 4>doing enough to reach a new audience to literally no
<v Speaker 4>idea what Game Past is?
<v Speaker 3>Like, There'll be a trailer and it just says play
<v Speaker 3>a day.
<v Speaker 4>One with Game Past, and then you're like, well, what
<v Speaker 4>the hell is game pas? And I'm saying this purely
<v Speaker 4>because my aunt and uncle are getting into gaming and
<v Speaker 4>they like one of one of my uncles plays a
<v Speaker 4>lot of games, but they have to ask me what
<v Speaker 4>everything is. Like I had to walk them through how
<v Speaker 4>to set up PSM or something right, and it's like,
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I realized, like for you, this is
<v Speaker 4>a new thing. Like they don't understand what this is
<v Speaker 4>at all. I tried to explain the concept of game
<v Speaker 4>pass to them and they just had no idea.
<v Speaker 3>I think it's like I wonder, Yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>We're just we're just surrounded by the damn thing all
<v Speaker 3>the time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's part of this thing that, like
<v Speaker 2>I like the last mile problem I've talked about on
<v Speaker 2>the show before, where someone could decide they want to
<v Speaker 2>play games and then and then you could put a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of options in front of them and be like, look,
<v Speaker 2>game pass is the best deal. But like getting them
<v Speaker 2>from deciding to play games to that point is okay am,
<v Speaker 2>I going to spend at least three hundred.
<v Speaker 1>Dollars on a console?
<v Speaker 2>And if I'm gonna do that, okay am, I maybe
<v Speaker 2>I should get the five hundred dollars one.
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of cash right there. That's a major hurdle.
<v Speaker 1>And then after that then you could subscribe to this thing.
<v Speaker 2>Now there's the alternative, right, Well, okay, well what if
<v Speaker 2>I just get game Pass for x Cloud and that
<v Speaker 2>that's an option, right, that's how they were going to
<v Speaker 2>solve this. But that's not that doesn't like get rid
<v Speaker 2>of all the problems. Okay, do they have a controller?
<v Speaker 2>Do they know how to contect a controller over Bluetooth
<v Speaker 2>to their television so that they could stream it to
<v Speaker 2>the x the Xbox Cloud app on their like, these
<v Speaker 2>are problems that just aren't easily remedied.
<v Speaker 1>There's no just like.
<v Speaker 4>Trying to explain this over a video call from hosts
<v Speaker 4>and uncles out there, Yes, no way.
<v Speaker 2>I think what what happened is is that they Xbox
<v Speaker 2>did what they could in terms of presenting the solutions
<v Speaker 2>that they could control, and none of it was compelling
<v Speaker 2>enough to get the people over those humps, to get
<v Speaker 2>them over those those frustrations and those frictions. And so
<v Speaker 2>I think, like you talked about alarm bells going enough,
<v Speaker 2>if call of duty doesn't grow game Pass, I don't
<v Speaker 2>think those alarms are even set anymore. I think they
<v Speaker 2>know exactly what game Pass is to them now, and
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be one option among many, and it's
<v Speaker 2>no longer like I bet the next time we hear
<v Speaker 2>about the bonus structure, where for a long time, the
<v Speaker 2>bonus structure for like Phil Spencer and I think even
<v Speaker 2>Satia Nadella was tied to growth of game Pass, I
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's I don't think they're bonus structures tied
<v Speaker 2>to that anymore.
<v Speaker 1>And going forward, it's like.
<v Speaker 2>Man, no, okay, we did that was the game experiment.
<v Speaker 2>It succeeded to this degree, and so our expectations will
<v Speaker 2>now be in line with that, where previously they were
<v Speaker 2>sky high for it, and it's like, no, we got
<v Speaker 2>the thirty million. Those are the gamers that are in
<v Speaker 2>our ecosystem that are willing to make that leaf. Growing
<v Speaker 2>beyond that audience has turned out to be basically impossible,
<v Speaker 2>you know.
<v Speaker 3>Not.
<v Speaker 1>We're going to.
<v Speaker 2>Slowly trickle in more people, and it's going to be
<v Speaker 2>the people who are buying consoles and then a handful
<v Speaker 2>of people on PC who get game Pass through windows,
<v Speaker 2>although that's going to be a significantly smaller audience because
<v Speaker 2>Steam is just so dominant there, so they could do
<v Speaker 2>they could do other things, say hey, let's put game
<v Speaker 2>Pass into Steam, but I don't.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they care enough to do that anymore.
<v Speaker 2>I think that they spent sixty nine billion dollars on Activision,
<v Speaker 2>and since then it feels like game passes. Like, man,
<v Speaker 2>we make a lot of money just selling Call of Duty, right,
<v Speaker 2>and we make a lot of money just from Candy Carossaga, right,
<v Speaker 2>like money that eclipses game pass.
<v Speaker 1>Let's just do what Activision was doing and make more
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty.
<v Speaker 3>So I think, did you did you read Try's book?
<v Speaker 1>I just ordered it. Actually it's on the way I've
<v Speaker 1>read it yet.
<v Speaker 4>There's a very key point about how when Bobby took
<v Speaker 4>over an Activision, he surrounded himself his C suite with
<v Speaker 4>people from and stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, during gambling, and one of the c's.
<v Speaker 4>CTO, CFO whatever was basically like, well, why can't why
<v Speaker 4>can't you make games just like how we make products?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep.
<v Speaker 4>It's like great book, great book, some incredible little tidbits,
<v Speaker 4>but there are some moments that are just so profoundly
<v Speaker 4>depressing with how C suites see the creation and publishing
<v Speaker 4>of video games.
<v Speaker 2>So I mean like Procter and Gamble like they have
<v Speaker 2>all those Like here's the Lady Razor. Look at the
<v Speaker 2>lady version of GTA.
<v Speaker 1>Let's do that. That'll be fun.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the boks will be pink appeal to the women.
<v Speaker 4>And then a tiny we'll make make them a new
<v Speaker 4>We'll make them a new controller for their tiny delicate hands.
<v Speaker 1>Perfect there, it is, just do that.
<v Speaker 2>The more money in the bank, last a little just
<v Speaker 2>a tsa here, I think, mostly because I have it
<v Speaker 2>in Fantasy Critics, so I noticed it esa the psa
<v Speaker 2>uh Metal Slug Tactics November release date and physical release revealed.
<v Speaker 2>This is from aman at my Nintendo News. Metal Slug
<v Speaker 2>Tactics will be ready to rumble come Tuesday, November fifth.
<v Speaker 2>Publisher dot Emu revealed the release date and the inclusion
<v Speaker 2>of three additional characters to a trailer.
<v Speaker 1>That can be seen now online. I was wondering if
<v Speaker 1>this game would make it this year.
<v Speaker 2>It was like this, it's skate story I have in
<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Critic, and I'm like, I should go out and
<v Speaker 2>reach out to these companies so I can get it
<v Speaker 2>on the record that they're not coming out this year,
<v Speaker 2>because then if it's not come out this year, I
<v Speaker 2>can drop them and get a different game.
<v Speaker 1>But it looks. I won't.
<v Speaker 2>I won't have to do that for Metal Silk Tactics,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm feeling pretty helpful.
<v Speaker 1>For this one.
<v Speaker 3>It's not been on my radar. I haven't. I don't
<v Speaker 3>think I've played a Metal Slug since I was at university,
<v Speaker 3>but I am. I'm happy for you, thank you.
<v Speaker 2>It popped up in a Nintendo Direct forever ago, and
<v Speaker 2>it's like, man, that's a good idea. I like a
<v Speaker 2>metal Slug, but and I like tactics games, and that
<v Speaker 2>then's a fun, colorful game where it's like you could
<v Speaker 2>very easily understand, Oh, this guy's a gunner, this guy's
<v Speaker 2>got a rocket launcher. This one could do this, then
<v Speaker 2>that one can do that, and they have different strengths
<v Speaker 2>and weaknesses. It had a demo during a next Fest
<v Speaker 2>and I tried it and it wouldn't work on the
<v Speaker 2>Steam deck because it was like expecting mouse and keyboard,
<v Speaker 2>and even with the touch pad it was it was weird.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm hoping that they got everything put together here
<v Speaker 2>and it's a real solid game.
<v Speaker 1>And it's a roguelike too. I like Roebtes, so that's fantastic. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>that does it for the use headlines.
<v Speaker 4>Uh do Wilmot Wilmot Wilmot game comes out in less
<v Speaker 4>than an hour?
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, yeah, I played Wilmot's Warehouse. They said, this
<v Speaker 1>is the third game in the Wilmot Cinematic universe out.
<v Speaker 4>It's basically like you just fil you just do puzzles.
<v Speaker 4>I played the demo a game and it rocked and
<v Speaker 4>it's out.
<v Speaker 1>I liked just doing puzzles today. I need that.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well it's literally like like like Jigsaw puzzles.
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, that's fun too.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was really fun. Anyway, that's coming out. Thank
<v Speaker 3>you so much. Who put that in? Was it octu ocato?
<v Speaker 1>It was all right. I appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>Whole question from yesterday or earlier this week, whatever, do
<v Speaker 2>you feel the need for a steam deck two see
<v Speaker 2>Twenty six percent said I never felt the need for
<v Speaker 2>a steam deck, one twenty percent said yes, I do
<v Speaker 2>feel the need for a steam deck too, and fifty
<v Speaker 2>three percent more than half of all responding, said no,
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel the need for a steam deck too.
<v Speaker 2>So uh yeah, I think I voted no. I'm happy
<v Speaker 2>with my steam deck for the moment. I am happy
<v Speaker 2>that they're waiting until AMD has a real next gen
<v Speaker 2>processor to put in this thing, and then at that point,
<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited to see what they do, although I'm
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, give me more battery life, that would
<v Speaker 2>be the best thing. Like, yeah, some better performance here
<v Speaker 2>or there, but more battery life, that's really what I want.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we're probably a year or two away from them.
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about a steam deck too, You're you're into
<v Speaker 2>the handheld PCs as well, right, you like them.
<v Speaker 3>I'm using my Roger Ally's.
<v Speaker 4>Putting No, I think I have the original one. So
<v Speaker 4>they are, they're putting steam os onto it. But it's
<v Speaker 4>it's more a it's a repet brain injury thing, is said.
<v Speaker 4>The steam Deck, unfortunately for me, is just very cumbersome
<v Speaker 4>for a long amount of time. Also, it's very it's
<v Speaker 4>it's much heavier, and so if I'm on a flight,
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be like this is the whole time.
<v Speaker 4>I want to be kind of being able to do that.
<v Speaker 1>So I rock ally.
<v Speaker 3>I was playing a lot of metaphor on it when
<v Speaker 3>I was on my most recent trip, and it was
<v Speaker 3>it was a good time.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, got mine worse on it. It's batteries terrible yes,
<v Speaker 1>but Roger l X was a little bit better. Apparently
<v Speaker 1>Mike and Dan both fell and they've been playing stuff
<v Speaker 1>on there.
<v Speaker 2>I know Mike prefers the Roger ally as well, and
<v Speaker 2>so he was happy with the X that did have
<v Speaker 2>a better battery, although it's you know, it's one of
<v Speaker 2>those ones that I think if you are mostly still
<v Speaker 2>playing at home, that's when you plug in and it's
<v Speaker 2>just kind of play on the couch, all comfy and cozy.
<v Speaker 1>That's a good way to use that thing. I'm finishing
<v Speaker 1>up right now. All right.
<v Speaker 2>Uh, we got a new poll question coming in a
<v Speaker 2>second before we get to that, though, Lucy James, why
<v Speaker 2>don't you tell people where they could find you on
<v Speaker 2>the internet what you have going on?
<v Speaker 1>All that good stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Oh you can find me in about three hours.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that sounds right, three hours for Blake Clubs Club.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very pet I will be suiting up once again
<v Speaker 3>and going back to the where is.
<v Speaker 1>It Skull Island?
<v Speaker 2>Rise of Gong shitby Baby Skull Island.
<v Speaker 3>Baby Skull Island, that's where we're going, Baby back.
<v Speaker 4>To Baby Skull Island in the meantime, Yeah, Lucy James,
<v Speaker 4>games everywhere the thing is is that like I'm on Twitter,
<v Speaker 4>is there does anyone know of a script or something
<v Speaker 4>that if I just post something it goes to Twitter,
<v Speaker 4>Blue Sky and Threads because I'm sorry, I'm not copy
<v Speaker 4>pasted and doing all apples.
<v Speaker 2>Shit, there's probably that one that includes Twitter because they're
<v Speaker 2>forty thousand dollars a month.
<v Speaker 1>API bullshit.
<v Speaker 3>Oh but threads and I don't know. I keep forgetting
<v Speaker 3>that I have Blue Scott. I'm big, I'm big on threads.
<v Speaker 3>I enjoy, Yeah, I enjoy.
<v Speaker 2>I tried threads for a while, and uh, I don't.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I like the people on threads.
<v Speaker 4>It's so that's where it's like, it's people who followed
<v Speaker 4>me on Instagram. So I already know that they'll oobungus,
<v Speaker 4>thank you very much.
<v Speaker 1>People that follow the people on Instagram.
<v Speaker 2>I have a certain lack of humor that is driving
<v Speaker 2>me crazy on threads, and so I'm like, are all
<v Speaker 2>like pretty like these are the early Twitter people.
<v Speaker 1>This is fine.
<v Speaker 4>That's the thing where it's like, I don't I don't
<v Speaker 4>go on the tab the the for you tab a.
<v Speaker 4>It's all engagement, gape, engagement bait bullshit. However, it's just
<v Speaker 4>like a lot of people that I've already followed in.
<v Speaker 1>It's just the replies I'll do.
<v Speaker 2>I'll pay to be fair and always be clothings, right.
<v Speaker 2>I only post my worst jokes on threads, and so
<v Speaker 2>the replies that are always lacking.
<v Speaker 1>For the most part, let's less I know yet unless
<v Speaker 1>we're mutuals and then that's fine. But blue Sky's been nice. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>I was like I had given up on blue Sky,
<v Speaker 2>and now everyone's trying it again. So I'm like, I'll
<v Speaker 2>give that another shot, and now I'm trying to default
<v Speaker 2>to that. I it's never like an active thing me
<v Speaker 2>checking Twitter. It's a compulsion. It's where my brain goes
<v Speaker 2>when it has like exhaustiums. It needs to send off,
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't want to think about these things anymore,
<v Speaker 2>so I'll just put them on Twitter and let other
<v Speaker 2>people deal with it. And I'm trying to like put
<v Speaker 2>Bluesky into that position. It's difficult to break happy.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I need.
<v Speaker 1>All right, New Pole question, did you play Prince of
<v Speaker 1>Persia The Lost Ground? Yes or no?
<v Speaker 2>You will be judged for your answer. We'll discuss that
<v Speaker 2>one game this morning's here on giant Bomb tomorrow. Speaking
<v Speaker 2>a Giant Bomb tomorrow, Jimm back again. Jan should be
<v Speaker 2>on the show. Should be a good one.
<v Speaker 1>Look out for that.
<v Speaker 2>As Lucy mentioned, we have Blake Club today. I will
<v Speaker 2>do a Ghost and Grublins here in a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>Try to start here pretty soon. The kiddo needs some
<v Speaker 2>help with some stuff though, so probably do probably.
<v Speaker 1>Like maybe twelve thirty maybe one pm Eastern time.
<v Speaker 2>We'll see, but I'll try to start as soon as
<v Speaker 2>I can so we can get a good amount of
<v Speaker 2>games in there before I have.
<v Speaker 1>A And then what else is happening tomorrow?
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, games mornings, we'll have voicemail dump truck,
<v Speaker 2>We'll have a Connectivity compadres. We're gonna play Echo Point Nova,
<v Speaker 2>so look out for that. It's it's gonna be a
<v Speaker 2>fun week. And then of course the Astro Invitational returns
<v Speaker 2>on Friday for UPF.
<v Speaker 4>Who I'm gonna I'm just gonna be hanging out. I'm
<v Speaker 4>not playing, obviously, But who is going to be on
<v Speaker 4>the Invitational?
<v Speaker 2>I think so it'll be the same cruise last week.
<v Speaker 2>And then I think we are inviting in. We invited
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Midler. I'm not sure if he'll be able to
<v Speaker 2>make it.
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna I'm gonna send him a polite message, Okay,
<v Speaker 4>definitely not full of abuse.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you appreciate that.
<v Speaker 4>Uh.
<v Speaker 2>And then uh, Mike is going to participate because I
<v Speaker 2>had to. I had to apologize him for going along
<v Speaker 2>with Dan's joke that Dan's time was faster than.
<v Speaker 1>Mike's and he did not appreciate that.
<v Speaker 2>But the apology has been issued, and Mike says he
<v Speaker 2>will compete again.
<v Speaker 1>So that's good. That's good news for all of us.
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's see here. I think let's finish things up. Lucy,
<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for hanging out with today and
<v Speaker 2>talking about video games.
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it, of course, thanks for having.
<v Speaker 2>Me absolutely well. Hope hopefully we could do it again
<v Speaker 2>next week. Thank you everybody for listening and watching. You're
<v Speaker 2>the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a
<v Speaker 2>good one, take care of yourself, and goodbye.