The One Where Lala Learns About Furries In School

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Speaker 1: I want to start us off a little differently today.

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Speaker 2: Jess Utah people working together.

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Speaker 1: Utah.

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Speaker 2: What a great place, Stupie, you can go, but there's none that compare.

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Speaker 1: This is the place, by.

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Speaker 2: The way, welcome back and give them all a podcast. I'm for Rush out of Salt Lake City, Utah. And I had to bust into song because I will say, Utah.

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Speaker 1: This is the place. I fucking agree.

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Speaker 3: Wait, what is that? Is that the state song or something? Where is that from?

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Speaker 2: It's a song that all the elementary schools would perform. Okay, school we would sing a bunch of songs about just like Utah heritage, yeah, how the state came to be. But we performed that one first and then there were a bunch of other songs and then we would end on that song.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it was the jam for me. Like I was like, this is the goat. This song hits different.

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Speaker 3: Getting down to the state song, yeah or whatever it is, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So there's that, Okay, amazing. So I went to Utah on Friday.

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Speaker 2: We got back, well today this will air on Wednesday, but we got back last night, Monday night. And there's something that Utah does to my soul. I didn't appreciate Utah until I left. Then I was like, wow, I really just like was raised in a great place. Yeah, you know, and I wasn't raised Mormon. There's a lot of Mormons out there. Which, by the way, if you guys haven't started watching Under the Banner of Heaven, you are fucking up.

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Speaker 1: So scary.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, see, I might have not I might have to watch it in the morning on the weekends because they might have nightmares.

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Speaker 2: It does mess with you when I watch it late at night, Like there was one night, like a couple of weeks ago, I had watched the first episode. I woke up in the middle of the night. I had this burning sensation in me. I was I ripped my eyemask off. I felt like the devil was in the room. And I kid you not, and I'm not religious. I'm more spiritual, but I believe in God, that's my higher power. And I was like, God, you need to fight off whatever energy is in this room right now because it's scary.

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Speaker 3: Freaks me out. Thanks giving me anxiety. Okay, you guys, So just a precursor, Lala told me. She said, oh, do I have some things to talk about, some topics to talk about with you today. But she didn't tell me any of them. Oh so we're finding them all out together.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: First, let me tell you this, and I pray Cheryl, my sister in law, or Brandon, my brother, if you're listening to this podcast and the kids are in the car, or at least London, you need to.

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Speaker 1: Stop it right now. Stop the podcast, turn it off.

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Speaker 2: So this is anyone for any kids, or just let anybody's kids who who still has beliefs in certain things when Christmas time comes around.

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Speaker 1: Stop the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we're sitting at brunch with my brother's sister in law and his kids, and we're talking about aliens and my nephew, who's like thirteen, he like doesn't believe in them.

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Speaker 3: And I was shook, like you're telling me that we're.

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Speaker 1: The only living things. Like I was just like shook, and I was like, I believe in aliens.

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Speaker 2: And my niece says I do too, and I sit back and I was like, but I but I also believe that Santa Claus is still real and she goes.

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Speaker 1: Well, so do I are you saying that he's not?

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Speaker 3: Oh no?

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Speaker 2: And my mind every when I said that, the whole table, every adult just stop dead stare at me, like, how the fuck are you gonna reel this one in?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, so my mind you should. I was like, compute, compute.

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Speaker 2: I wish I could in the world trying to put pieces together, and I did in a matter of seconds.

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Speaker 3: I was like, no, he he's real.

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Speaker 2: But what people think is that Santa's the one that watches us year round, and I don't believe that. I believe he stays in the North Pole and makes toys, and I believe the elves are the ones that are watching us year round.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that just like it gave me anxiety when you told me so. Wait did she believe that?

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Speaker 1: Did she buy it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: She was like, no, I know that because our elf watches us.

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Speaker 1: Picky.

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Speaker 3: How old is she She's nine? Oh yeah, give her a few more years.

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Speaker 2: My Mormon grandma is the one that broke it to me that Santa wasn't real. Wait, because I walked up because kids at school.

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Speaker 3: I was in the third grade, and I was like, Grandma, is Santa Claus real?

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Speaker 1: She goes, I'm gonna be honest with you, Lauren, No, he's not real. My dad was pissed.

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: I remember walking outside of her like cute little Mormon looking home, and it was like a winter evening where this sky gets like.

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Speaker 1: A really pretty like nave, like light navy, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yes, snow everywhere, and I was just so defeated, sad. Yes.

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Speaker 3: See, that's the difference between us as kids. Because my parents told me. I asked them, I said, Santa Reel I was probably like eleven. Wait, a little too old. He said, is Santa Reel? And they said no, he's not. And then I said okay, and I turned around and I said, what the fuck? Did they know he's real? Right? And they're just insane?

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Speaker 1: I do believe he's real.

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Speaker 3: He is. I don't care what anyone says, like.

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Speaker 1: He flies in a sleigh.

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Speaker 3: All, well, great, save great. I wish I could have seen your face when she asked you that, mom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I almost outed Santa Claus not being real to London, what was your reaction? I was looking at you.

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Speaker 1: No, it was so terrifying.

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Speaker 3: Did she say? Did she save it?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: Lisa? Like, do you think London bought her?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: The entire table was like.

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 2: And then I went into like, you want to know how I know he's real because when La La was sneaking into Gigi and Poppy's room one night on Christmas Eve, I looked down and I saw his twinkling eyes.

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Speaker 1: Going ready to go up the chimney. You said that, yes, because I did. I did see that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and all the things.

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Speaker 2: Had she been older, Had she been older, she would have been like, these motherfuckers are trying now.

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Speaker 1: Dogs protest too much, y'all they're doing too much.

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Speaker 2: So the next thing, I have some topics that I learned about in Utah be high state.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jess, have you ever heard of furrize?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we need to talk about this.

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Speaker 3: Wait, let's meet. Let's see if we've heard of the same things, because you remember we mentioned.

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Speaker 1: It on tour.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I learned about freeze in the school system.

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Speaker 3: Now, wait, you're scaring me, are you this? Because furries to me when I think of it, that's something sexual.

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Speaker 2: Okay, in the school system. So my best friend from back home, her kids go to school in Utah. They now and this is like a real thing. You cannot discriminate against someone who who identifies.

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Speaker 1: As an animal.

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Speaker 2: They'll wear ears, they'll wear a tail. Teachers are now putting bowls in the classroom for them to drink out of and eat out of like animals. When they're asked questions, they can meow or bark or moo or whatever they identify. And then my friend also said, she said, I don't know if this is true or not, but they're going to start putting litter boxes in the bathrooms because you must not discriminate against the children who are identifying as furries.

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Speaker 3: Okay, are you sure, because like you tell me that and I'm like, you've got the wrong information.

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Speaker 2: Well that's why I want to talk about it, because it comes from a pretty reliable source. And it comes from one of my dearest friends. Her name's Olivia, and she does this girl's hair who's like thirteen, and she goes to school. And this is what this girl has told Olivia. Okay, Like this girl, she's thirteen. I don't know her name, but I want to get her on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she said, I pretend to be a furry sometimes, like I'll bark at people in the hall. I'm like, this girl's dope.

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Speaker 2: But I need someone to shed some light because I'm a liberated woman. Okay, I am like you do you boo this I just cannot comprehend, like not having to take tests because you identify as an animal, so and animals don't take tests.

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Speaker 3: There's no Okay, there's no And I'm not doubting you. I believe it's like I'm sure some school systems do this. Yeah, but to me, I'm like, there's no way because I'm just like you. I'm like liberated. I think if you feel you were born whatever. If you're a certain age and you feel you were born hey, I feel like I identify more as a woman or a man, or a boy or a girl. You know, talk to your parents, binary any of that. Talk you know, do have those conversations, talk to your parents, talk to your teachers, do all that. But I feel like when you get into the animal of it all, then it's really taking It's like taking the what am I trying to say, It's taking the not severity, but it's lessening the importance of that. I feel like as a little boy or a little girl, Hey, I feel this way. I feel like a girl or a boy. I feel like I was born in the wrong body, as the wrong gender, any of that. But I feel like it's lessening that when it's like, well, I well, then I feel like I was born a cat. Well, I feel like I was born at whatever. I'm just like it to me, it lessens that. Does that make any sense?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, I feel like I because and here's the thing, I have a lot of opinions about this. Yeah, I don't want to offend anybody, right, So I would like someone to maybe shed some light. If you are a furry listening to the podcast, Yeah, which if you are, I need to know because right now I have a whole lot of shit going on in my mind. However, my daughter, my daughter puts her food on the ground and eats it up like a dog, right because she watches the dogs eating and she thinks that's how she is supposed to eat. And I have to tell her we can't eat off the ground like that. And I'm like, oh my gosh, do I have a furry well?

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Speaker 3: Like, also, did we forget about?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Do you know how many times I drink water from a bowl on the ground and ate food from a bowl because pretend when I was a kid, When I was a kid, you guys, I have to meet that there, just like last week when I walk into the office, like it's called playing pretend. The amount of times I dressed up as like an old man, as a little girl or whatever is like an an animal or like pretended I was a frog. And to me, there's something about it's so important to play and play for ten as a kid, that's so important and to get outside and to be like I'm a dog in this. But I just don't know how I feel. I need to process my feelings. I mean, my immediate feelings are like, not the fuck. I'm just gonna be honest. My immediate feelings are like, no, you're not. We need to teach children the importance of knowing the difference between an animal and a human.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you can't half acid, all right, If you're gonna identify as a furry, then when we go in the airplane, you need to get in your crate and you have to stay under the seat until the plane is thirty thousand feet in the air, where then the pilot comes on and says you can turn on electronics and you can hold your dog.

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Speaker 3: You okay, and then I will take you out of the crate. But what do you think about because furry to me has always been the I've heard of, Like there's a sexual component of being a furry, which is you wear these like mascot, full on mascot costumes and you go to these quote unquote furry parties and it's just like rubbing on each other. No one ever takes off their mask or their costume, but it's like an orgy with this full on mascot costume on. So to me, that is like if all the adults are consenting and you know what you're walking into, and you want to dress up, you do your you do the damn for.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: But that's very different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So if you know anything about furries or what I'm talking about, and if what I was told is in fact true that they're putting these dog or not dog but animal bowls in classrooms and litter boxes in the bathroom, like, please open my mind, because I'm a girl who is open to it all. I can get down with things. Just make me understand. I don't know that I'll ever understand this, but this leads me. When you say sexual this leads me to the next thing that I want to talk about in school systems.

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 3: Oh god? So this is on Utah Parents United.

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Speaker 1: It's an Instagram page.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is called My Body is Growing, a guide for children ages four to eight years old.

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Speaker 1: It makes me sick. This is in the book. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Sabrina's vagina becomes moist and warm and Marco's penis gets very still. Marco then pushes his penis into Sabrina's vagina, always in and out. That feels great for both of them. When the feeling is nicest Marco's penis sprays semen into Sabrina's vagina. Okay, this is in a book that was in a library a school in Utah, a library for a guide for four to eight years old.

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Speaker 3: Okay, oh my god, I'm.

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Speaker 1: As open as it gets. Yea right, let's talk about it all. I'll tell you one thing.

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Speaker 2: I drop my kid off to school, who's four, five, six, seven, eight, and Ocean picks this book up and reads it. You are going to regret the day that you were fucking born and allowed this book inside of that fucking school, because I will.

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Speaker 3: Raise hell and guys, just so you know. So I'm looking at this. It's Utah Parents United, because Lalla just handed it over to me. It's the book is called, like she said, my body is growing, a guide for four to eight year olds. And it's like a cartoon. Like this isn't a medical book, not that it matters, because this is a guide for four to eight year old, So already what this is a literal like it's a cartoon. On the this looks like a children's book. If I were a kid, I would be drawn to pick this up. Yes, because it's a boy and a girl in the front and then when you scroll over, if you go to their the Instagram page, you'll see the part that La La just read about Saverina's vagina becomes it's a animated photo of two as a guy and a girl having sex, and there's a like you can't see boobs or vagina or penis, but you can see them on top of each other. And there's a little teddy bear on the pillow, almost like showing that they're younger I'm not gonna say kids, but like showing that they maybe aren't full adults. So my only thing is like, it's not just it doesn't look like a medical book. That's like here parents targeted at parents to talk to their older children, I mean four to eight years old as wild. But no, it's like you just have to go to see it because it's a totally different vibe. You hear it, and then you look at how the book is drawn and designed and it looks like a kid's book, and I think that is crazy. I think it's one thing as a parent if you choose to say yes, if my kid ever asks when they're however, hey mom, dad, what's said? You have the freedom and the right to tell them however you want. But the fact that that's just on the shelf of an elementary school in a library, willy nilly for a five year old to just pick up and read, I don't know, that's wild to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was written and illustrated by Dagmar Geisler. Dagmar's shame on you for writing a book like this for a four to eight years of age.

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Speaker 3: And that was tell me again, is that in a library?

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Speaker 1: It was in a Yes.

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Speaker 2: So basically, Utah Parents United is parents who get together and they share what their children are exposed to in schools. Yes, And I think that that is completely inappropriate for the ages four to eight.

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Speaker 3: They don't need to know about sex at that age. And if here's my question, though, because I think that absolutely inappropriate that book put there without I mean, the illustration, the fact that it looks like a children's book. Do you think though, because this is an I think to make clear how you feel, if there's a five whatever, four or five six year old who comes up to their mom and dad in the home and says, mom and dad, I heard someone say sex. What sex? Do you think it's appropriate if they want.

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Speaker 2: To tell and you have the conversation, okay, for your kid to be at school at a library and they just happen to pick this book up and they start reading. Yeah, I don't like that. And you know me, Jess, and I am so open open. Yeah, let's talk about sex all day long. Let's talk about blow jobs. We have to protect the youth because if they're exposed to too much too young, as they get older, things go astray and unhealthy habits and addictions start happening.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: I have trauma from what I've experienced the last however many months. Very protective of ocean. I'm very protective of the youth and how much you know, we just can't. We can't expose them to too much too young.

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Speaker 3: I get that, and I have to protect and I think there's also a time and a place, especially when they're that young, and the time in the place, and if they don't let's say it's a child who doesn't have a parent and they want to ask that question, then they go to a guardian or they ask a teacher, and then in my belief, it's one hundred percent the teacher's responsibility to go to the guardian and say this child asked about this, Is this something you would like to talk about if you would like me to talk to them about it? What do you want me to say?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Not in a book that looks like a cartoon book that any kid would want to pick up. And also the fact that it's like this feels great again, this is just me. But when I'm a mother, if I've always thought when I'm a mother, I'm gonna use penis vagina, I'm just gonna use the words yeah, but I don't. I don't think if they're that young. And let's say my f year old comes to me and says, what sex, I'm not gonna sit there. I'm gonna tell them strictly scientifically one hundred. I'm gonna use statements like like christ and Balandack Sheppard do this. I heard this on Dax's podcast. But I'm gonna use statements like the woman places the man's penis into her vagina, because to me, it feels like that's showing without saying, without doing too much. When they're so young, that's showing like a consent, that showing the woman has control. Almost right, But I'm not gonna go and then she like at five years old, and then she gets wet and it feels great.

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Speaker 2: What no, and his penis sprays, spreaming into her vagina. And then in that illustration on that page on the side shows birth control all the ways that you prevent pregnancy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it shows and also the man sprays the semen into the vagina, so there's no condom, Like, what do you even? That's a lot that does make me a little queasy. And how old is.

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Speaker 2: This book by the way, because they're showing all of the ways a woman can prevent but there's no condom here.

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Speaker 3: There's no condom.

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Speaker 1: No, there's a diaphragm.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's an iud can't be that old.

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Speaker 2: There's birth control pills, there's foam caps, but all of these are women are for the vagina.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: This makes me think this book is like, we got to look a little more into this, Like it's almost like it's that illustrator and writer like the head of some sort of weird cults.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I saw and I'm telling you what, Ocean Kent picks that book up at the age of.

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Speaker 1: Four, I am going insane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't even imagine. I'm gonna look that. I want to look more into that because I'm like, that is crazy town. That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 2: If your kid comes to you at a young age and asks you about things, to sweep it under the rug bike. Okay, the conversation, but certainly don't have books like that in the library.

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Speaker 1: No, okay.

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Speaker 2: So the person that posted this, it says, last week, my two little grade school nieces were reading this Salt Lake School District school book to their grandmother. It encourages them to explore their sexuality, put things up their rectums, and embraces sex with children. They were encouraged not to tell their parents. Pictures and texts from the book reposted in the comments below.

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Speaker 1: Please share.

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Speaker 3: Oh done, Send them to jail, Send the writer, send anyone who is promoting what you just said to jail.

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Speaker 1: Bye.

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Speaker 3: Are you joking? That's what it says, don't tell your parents. Yeah, and everything else you just said, that's even like too horrific to repeat. Goodbye, goodbye, you're all getting you're all going to jail.

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Speaker 1: It's so, what is going on?

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Speaker 3: That's wild?

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Speaker 2: Protect the youth that all costs so that they can grow up to be beautiful spirits make a difference in the world. They can't be exposed to too much too young. Okay, I stand firm on that. There's nothing you can say to me that will change my fucking mind. When Ocean Count was born, I saw the beauty in the world. Everything I wanted this world to be was like right in my little human that I gave birth to.

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Speaker 1: And then I saw all the ugliness and.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I will do everything in my power, yeah, to like fight off the evil, Like, don't come near my child with the shit. Yeah, we should as adults do everything in our power to protect them. And in the unfortunate event that young humans are exposed to too much too soon, and we know that happens all the time and it's heartbreaking, then we just have to pray, which like I do every night, we pray that these children find strength and guidance through you know, other ways, and can become one her full powerful, strong adults. Yeah. When I was a step parent, she brought me this book. I don't know where the book came from. I'm drawing a blank and she was looking through it and she told me that she wanted me to look at it. She said, I don't know if this is appropriate for a kid. So I looked through it and it was basically teaching It was nothing horrific. It was just basically teaching you body positivity, no matter what you looked like. So there were a bunch of drawings of different.

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Speaker 1: Bodies without clothes on.

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Speaker 2: Okay obviously, but it was showing like to just embrace your your body the way it is right. And she asked me if I thought it was appropriate, and I said, I want you to make that call. Do you feel like when you look at this? And I told her what it was trying to teach. I said, this is why these are in here, because we have to learn to love ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're too young for it?

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Speaker 2: And she looked at it again and she handed it about to me and said, I think I'm too young for it, and I said, perfect. We won't look at it until you feel like you're you're ready. But I explained to her why the image it was nothing like this, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Now, but what a smart and that's I mean, that's so great, what a smart girl, and what a like a great learning moment for her and you and you just not being like yet oh my god, this is too or like forcing it on or being like yes, you should love this, like toxic positivity, embrace this, read it all. You gave her the option and are you comfortable with this? And that's so important. Again, I'm not a mom, but to me, it's like teaching, if you know, somehow, teaching children to hear that and feel that gut feeling and trust that intuition, right, because you're not going to be in every situation, no, And if they're in a situation, they've got to learn to trust that that gut feeling of oh, I don't feel right. Something's wrong, and maybe I don't know exactly what it is, but something's wrong, and I just I shouldn't question that and I should get up and remove my totally.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Jess, I know that you're not a mom, obviously, but even when you become a mom, you sit there and think, am I doing this the right way?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? How do I teach my kid all the things that I want them to know? And you're gonna mess up?

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Speaker 2: But then there are times where you're mess up in someone else's eyes, maybe was the most brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Thing you've ever done, Like none of us have it figured out now.

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Speaker 2: Hear if you have one kid or you have twelve kids, right, you're always learning something different and your kid comes how they are.

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Speaker 3: And that's I loved when my mom said that. She said, you're never just You're always going to question if you're doing it right. Yeah, and like you just said, there's gonna be times where you're like, I really messed up and other people would be like, what are you talking about? That was the move? A great job?

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Speaker 2: And like you come from a big family. Your parents, I'm sure did one thing with mister Bubbs that.

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Speaker 1: Would never work with you.

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Speaker 2: Never mister Bubbs gets to do everything you know where, Yes, we had to teach mister Bubbs this way, but with ES we got to go this way because you're constantly having to rework the system.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's exhausting.

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Speaker 3: Makes me pause when I get baby fever, Like I get to hang out with the ocean most days. So I'm good for now because I can't. I can't take on more responsibility.

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Speaker 1: No, it's a lot. Plus you have to help me build an empire.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so we're building the empire.

00:27:30
Speaker 1: Firm building the empire.

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Speaker 2: So we had a lot of fun moments in this intro, Yeah, a little bit of heavier moments. I always love to hear your guys' thoughts on everything we talk about, so please remember to call in weigh in your questions concerns.

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Speaker 1: If you have any input on Freeze.

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Speaker 2: Or you have more knowledge educated Educate me, yes, educate me. You can call me at four two, four two, five nine to one three one.

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Speaker 1: And I love you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to another episode of mine, and I will talk to you next week