Trump's Reciprocal Tariffs Plan; TikTok Returns to Apple and Google

Bloomberg Daybreak: US Edition

On today's podcast:

1) President Trump rolls out plans for reciprocal tariffs on a host of trading partners President Trump has ordered his administration to consider imposing reciprocal tariffs on numerous trading partners to rebalance trade relations. The tariffs would be customized for each country, aiming to offset not just their own levies on US goods but also non-tariff barriers, and could take weeks or months to complete. The move is seen as a potential opening bid for negotiation, and Trump hopes to have a discussion with other nations about how existing policies have created an imbalanced trade environment.

2) The White House intensifies efforts to shrink the federal workforce The Trump administration is advising federal agencies to lay off thousands of probationary employees, with some exceptions, as part of its effort to rapidly downsize the federal government. Agencies such as the General Services Administration and the Department of Energy are making cuts, with the latter planning to dismiss 90% of its probationary employees for poor performance.

3) TikTok is back on the Apple and Google app stores Apple and Alphabet’s Google are restoring ByteDance TikTok to their app stores following assurances in a letter from US Attorney General Pam Bondi that a ban wouldn’t immediately be enforced. The two companies had removed TikTok in the US last month to comply with a law passed in 2024. By Thursday evening, the software had returned to the Apple App Store and Google Play store.

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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:10.799 Good morning. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.680 I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.160 stories we're following today. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.759 Karen, we begin with what could be a major change 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.119 to President Donald Trump's trade war. The President has signed 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.639 an executive order to consider reciprocal tariffs on a whole 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.080 host of trading partners. 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:30.080 I have decided, for purposes of fairness, that I will 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:34.400 charge a reciprocal tariff meeting. Whatever countries charged the United 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:39.040 States of America, we will charge them no more, no less. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.680 President Trump's directive calls for the US Trade Representative and 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.239 the Commerce Secretary to propose new levies on a. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:46.599 Country by country basis. 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.519 Commerce Dominie Howard Lutnick says the review could be complete 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.320 by April first, and Trump could act immediately after. The 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.720 White House memo says the levies could offset not just 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.960 other countries tariffs, but non tariff barriers like unfair subsidies, regulations, 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:01.560 and value added taxes. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.679 Well, Nathan, The latest salvo on tariffs came as Trump 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.959 and India's Prime minister and aarrender of Mody met in Washington. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.240 The two leaders agreed to begin negotiations to address what 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:16.520 Trump described as long running disparities in their trade relationship. 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.440 It has been to US just about the highest tariff 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.959 nation anywhere in the world. They've been very strong on tariffs, 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.479 and I don't blame them necessarily, but it's a different 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:27.760 way of doing business. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.200 It's very hard. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.080 To sell into India because they have their trade bears 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:33.480 very strong tariffs. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.560 The President's comments came as an aarrendera Mody said the 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.440 two men had agreed to more than double bilateral trade 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.800 to five hundred billion dollars by twenty thirty. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.160 I mean, well, Karen, there's been a legal setback for 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.080 the President in his effort to freeze funds for foreign 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.320 assistance programs. We get the very latest on that with 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.400 Bloomberg's John Tucker, Good Morning. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.520 John, and Nathan Offendel. Johns temporarily blocked the Trump administration 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:02.080 from enforcing that broad freeze. USAID Judge Amir Ali determined 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.520 that the Trump administration's blanket suspension of foreign aid funding 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.720 had a catastrophic impact for thousands of nonprofits who rely 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.160 on the aid to carry out their work abroad, and 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:13.360 was likely illegal. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.000 The judges ruling. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.520 Came after The US Agency for International Development saw thousands 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.480 of staff fired or put on leave, and its name 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.079 was actually stripped off its Washington headquarters. A report by 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.560 the agency's inspector General estimated that nearly five hundred million 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:33.079 dollars of emergency food assistants is at risk of being ruined. Well, 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.119 that inspector general was fired after that report came out. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.640 Dozens of lawsuits have been filed challenging the slew of 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:43.880 executive orders issued by President Trump. I'm John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.760 All right, John, thank you all. Even with the legal setbacks, 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.440 that Trump administration is moving ahead with its effort to 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:53.359 shrink the federal workforce. This time, probationary workers are unnotice. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.480 Bloomberg News has learned the Office of Personnel Management has 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:00.800 told multiple government agencies to lay off their probationary employees, 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:04.120 with some exceptions. As of last year, about ten percent 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.120 of federal workers were under a probationary period, most of 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.520 them in defense and veterans affairs. Meanwhile, a government union 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.760 chief tells Bloomberg Law the Department of Housing and Urban 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.760 Development plans to cut half its workforce. The official says 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:21.480 the cuts affect employees who enforce civil rights law, compile 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.680 housing data, and rebuild after disasters overseas Karen. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:26.840 Vice President JD. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.160 Vance is set to meet with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.600 today on the sidelines of the annual Munich Security Conference. 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.760 Bloomberg Zamy Morris reports. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.760 Vice President Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio are 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.560 set to sit down with Zelenski to discuss President Trump's 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.440 intensifying push for Ukraine and Russia to begin negotiations to 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.200 end the war. President Trump says, Russia President Vladimir Putin 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:50.000 wants peace. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:51.320 I know him very well. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:52.960 Yeah, I think he was peace. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.560 I think you would tell maybe it's not a question 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.000 of liking Russia or not liking Russia was the gaight, 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:00.800 And you know, I said, what are you doing? 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:01.240 You guys? 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.600 All you talk about is Russia and they should be sitting. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:04.960 At the table. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.880 The meeting comes just two days after Trump spoke separately 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.400 with Putin and Zelenski. Trump says he and Putin agreed 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.119 it was time to start negotiations. Amy Moore as Bloomberg Radio. 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.760 All right, Amy, thank you well. Jamie Diamond says JP 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:21.960 Morgan Chase will scale back spending on some diversity initiatives 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.240 that he sees as a waste of money. At the 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.039 same time, he also reiterated the bank's commitment to working 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:31.560 with Black, Hispanic and LGBTQ communities. Meantime, Diamond was in 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.920 Washington for a roundtable on de banking, which has been 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.159 a hot topic after President Trump accused some big banks 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:42.200 of not doing business with conservatives. Diamond says JP Morgan 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.880 does not debank people for their political affiliations, but. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.200 There are a lot of things that canna be fixed 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:48.559 and we should fix them. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.560 The rules and the requirements are so onerous, and it 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.479 does course people be debanked through my opinion, should not 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:55.200 be debanked. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:59.400 Diamond pointed to anti money laundering and financial crime rules 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.320 as a cup forty banking. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.719 Stay with Banking Karen HSBC is planning a new round 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.480 of job cuts next week. Bloomberg News has learned the 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.400 changes to the investment banking workforce will affect employees globally, 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:12.360 starting in Asia. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.120 Well Nathan Apple. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.200 And Google had both restored TikTok to their mobile app store. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.359 Sources say the iPhone maker made the move following a 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:24.360 letter from US Attorney General Pam Bondi both companies had 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.960 removed TikTok in the US to comply with the law 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:28.000 passed last year. 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.280 Let's check some stocks on the move this morning, Karen, 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:31.800 starting with Applied Materials. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.680 Those shares are down five percent. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.160 The largest US maker of chip manufacturing equipment gave a 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:38.640 lukewarm revenue. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:39.640 Forecast for the current period. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.760 A Matt expects a four hundred million dollar revenue hit 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.599 in fiscal twenty twenty five due to export rules. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.719 On the flip side, Nathan shares of Intel are on 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.920 track for their biggest weekly gain in twenty five years. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.320 The stock is that more than three and a half 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.799 percent this morning and twenty five percent for the week earlier. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.200 This week, Baird. 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.840 Noted talk that the US government could get involved with 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:06.320 the plan involving both Intel and Taiwan semiconductor manufacturing. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.480 Shares of Airbnb Karen R up fourteen percent. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.120 The company issued an upbeat forecast for the first three 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.279 months of twenty twenty five, citing continued strong demand after 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.520 a strong holiday travel season. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.440 And Nathan shares a game stopper, up almost seven percent. 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.480 CNBC is reporting the video game retailer is considering investing 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.680 in bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.599 On the flip side in a big way. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:33.000 Karen shares of Informatica are plunging nearly thirty five percent. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:40.719 The software company's revenue forecast trailed analyst estimates it. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:41.760 It's time now for a look at some of the 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.320 other stories making news in New York and around the world, 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.560 and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.400 Michael, good Morning, Good morning, Karen. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:53.440 Manhattan's top federal prosecutor, Danielle Sassoon, and five high ranking 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.240 Justice Department officials have resigned after she refused an order 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.400 from the Trump Department of Justice to drop corruption charges 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.279 against New York City Mayor Eric Adams so as soon 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.200 a Republican accused the Department of a quid pro quo, 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.840 namely dropping the case to insure Adam's help with Trump's 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.800 immigration agenda, and she said she was confident Adams committed 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.240 the crimes in his indictment. And even more, a Texas 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.200 judge has fined a New York doctor for prescribing abortion 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.160 pills to a woman near Dallas, and one of the 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:29.480 first challenges in the US to shield laws enacted in 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:33.400 Democratic controlled states where abortion is legal the ruling was 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.160 handed down. On the same day, New York Governor Kathy 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.720 Hokeel rejected a request from Louisiana to extradite the same doctor. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.960 Never under any circumstances will I sign an extradition agreement. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:49.200 Doctor Maggie Carpenter was charged in Louisiana with prescribing abortion 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.920 pills to a pregnant minor. The Stonewall National Monument and 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.920 New York City Stonewall in continued to celebrate the transgender community, 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.040 but the National Park Service web Pagel's a different story. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.600 The page has removed all mention of the transgender community 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.520 from its website, the latest effort by the Trump administration 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.520 to demand that the federal government recognize only two genders. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.600 City Council co Chair of the LGBTQ Caucus Eric Bacher, 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:16.840 the gay and. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:22.880 The lesbian New Yorkers are sticking with our transgender siblings. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.680 We're not going to abandon them. We're going to fight 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:25.680 alongside them. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.720 New York Governor Holkel, calling the decision by the Trump 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:33.200 administration cruel and petty. Robert F. Kennedy Junior was officially 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.839 President Trump's new Secretary of Health and Human Services head. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:41.080 He sworn in yesterday in the Oval Office after the 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.400 Senate confirmed him on a fifty two to forty eight 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:45.880 vote earlier in the day. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.400 President Trump, He's a fierce advocate for the health of 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.720 our children and for the values of free speech, democracy 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:53.280 and peace. 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.439 Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the former Senate majority leader, was 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.640 the only Republican to vote against Kennedy. Global News twenty 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.680 four hours a day and whenever you want it with 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.880 Bloomberg News Now. I'm Michael BARRN. This is Bloomberg Karen. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:11.640 All right, Michael barr thank you time now for the 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.840 Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Try State OUTI 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:16.280 here's John Stashauer. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.960 John, good morning, Good morning, Karen. The Giants were born 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.199 one hundred years ago and Tim Merhra put up five 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.080 hundred dollars. Tish family came aboard in nineteen ninety one 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.920 face seventy five million for fifty percent. John Marraw and 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.640 Steve Tish control the team, who put out a statement 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.760 last night that they are putting in an ownership stake 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.640 of up to ten percent up for sale. They've hired 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.720 a banker, perhaps with an eye of the NFL. Now 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.880 allowing private equity firms in on partial ownership. Forbes has 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.720 valued the Giants at seven point three billion. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:45.480 As for the. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.000 Jets, now official Aaron Rodgers will not be back for 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.640 salary cap reasons. He won't be officially cut until June first, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.680 but he can signed with another team before then. Rodgers 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.680 hasn't decided whether he wants to keep playing or retired. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:00.319 Travis Kelcey also hasn't decided. The Chiefs have told then 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.600 they need to know by March fourteenth, when they're due 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.520 to pay him twelve million. Four nations face off Hockey 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.839 US against Finland. This was one to one with three 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.680 minutes left in the second period, but the US with 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.880 two goals in a span of eleven seconds opening rid 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.040 of the third. When they would later add to the league. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.040 Using his stick, with Liddell able to recover get back 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.960 in front of the finnishnitt Ikoda Waretzky, he takes. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.440 The show loose scores. 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:33.320 Here's another bits as Montreal. 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.360 Which met Canada, they called two goals from Matthew to 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.920 Chuck and two more for his brother Brady. US one 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.760 six to one will play Canada tomorrow and I clearly 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.640 more attention to this tourney than what the NHL would 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.760 have added with a high scoring All Star game. The 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.920 NBA also looking for more interest as a new format 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.880 for Sunday Night in San Francisco, four teams with a 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.559 roster of eight playing games of first to forty. The 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.920 Nick's being represented by Jalen Brunston, Karl Anthony Towns Big 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.600 College Game tomorrow, Top frank Auburn visiting second rank at 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.640 in state rivaled Alabama. Saint John's the Garden Sunday to 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.640 play Creighton. That's the first place in the Big East. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.440 John Stanshedwer Bloomberg Sports Karendy Nathan. 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:15.800 Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Serious Exam 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.760 and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.920 Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:23.600 Good Morning. I'm Nathan Hager. 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.880 It is a move that could up end decades of 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.199 trade policy that the US helped to shape after World 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.920 War II. President Trump is ordering his administration to consider 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.760 reciprocal tariffs on a country by country basis. The President 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.280 says it's all about writing the trade balance. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.440 So, in other words, they charge US tex or tariff 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.920 and we charge them the exact same texts or terriff 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.960 for simple nobody knows what that number is unless you 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:53.439 go by the individual country. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.400 That was the President as he signed the executive order 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.640 in the Oval Office joining us this morning. For more 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.480 is Bloomberg News Senior editor Derek Wallbank. Derek, the President says, 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.520 it's simple you go country by country, But it really 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:10.840 is something that would completely shape the trade landscape around 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:11.520 the world, isn't it. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.120 Good morning, Yeah, yeah, Nathan, You're exactly right. It is 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.239 going to be a very difficult thing to figure out 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.120 how this is going to get levied country by country, 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.200 item by item, sector by sector. There is a lot 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.200 of work to do. That's why this White House has 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:32.160 been given until at least April to figure out how 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.480 these would be levied, where they would be levied, on 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.679 whom and in what amount. And I say that level 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:42.400 of vagueness because it's really important when you're considering markets. 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.240 There was some view by some that this was going 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.440 to be some version of an on off switch. That 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.800 is not what happened. The delay was something that was 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.920 a respite for a lot of traders. You saw a 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.360 lot more green than would have seen otherwise, and you 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.600 saw a little bit of an unwinding of some of 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.520 those risk positions. The other part of that that's really 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:11.120 critical is that markets are starting to think of the 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.160 word delay or the word sort of like a time 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:19.000 window in the terms of negotiation. Right. Trump was talking 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:23.440 through his sectoral tariffs on steal and aluminum about maybe 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.000 there could be a way that Australia could pull an exemption. 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.360 He put on a ten percent China tariff that's short 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.240 of sixty. He put on the twenty five percent against 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:36.160 Canada and Mexico and then suspended that for a month. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.880 So there really is a certain sentiment in markets that 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.800 saying maybe there's a little bit of breathing room, even 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.319 as the President is saying there will not be exceptions 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:45.560 to this. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:51.280 Derek is April first enough time, given how much the 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.520 Commerce Department and the USTR are being told they need 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.760 to look at not just tariffs on a country by 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.120 country basis, but non tariff barriers as well. 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.000 Yeah, you think it's quite a lot there, and then 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:06.680 once once those are figured out, you could imagine that 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.240 there's going to be a case for time to implementation. Right, 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.160 you have to tell people exactly what's going to be levied, 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.680 how it's going to be levied, et cetera. So it's 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.240 very possible that April, and I wouldn't even say April 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.840 one is a firm deadline, but it's possible that April 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.680 is the sort of starting point for something else. But 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.080 I do think back to your original point, this is 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.880 a really major move to sort of up end the 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.280 way that trade goes. And Trump is pitching this as simple, right. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.920 Trump is basically saying, look, whatever you do, we're going 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.640 to do back. It's going to be that easy. And 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.040 we've even seen some countries. India was a great example 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:47.160 near Andromodi was at the White House yesterday, but India, 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:51.040 walking into that visit had already started changing their own 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:55.280 tariffs on certain goods to try and get a little 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.280 bit closer into Trump good rasis. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.920 On top of the trade moves, Derek, we've seen and 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:05.000 continued to follow, the President making moves to a certain 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.640 pretty sweeping control over the federal government, among them to 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.520 cut off foreign aid to administered under US A I D. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.280 A federal judge has just blocked that effort. Where do 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:18.480 you see this going from here? 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:18.760 Now? 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.240 I think right exactly where you were saying is about 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.120 where everyone's expected this was going is to the courts 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.680 to figure out what they're allowed to do. But look, 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.600 make no mistake, this is something that the that the 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.040 Trump campaign said that it was going to do, that 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.320 it was going to be very aggressive. That they had, 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.400 They had spent the four years in the political wilderness, 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.520 so to speak, figuring out what they might do as 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.600 and when Trump got back in and they were they 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.400 were ready to go. There is a certain shock and 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.440 all idea to it. If you sort of listen to 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:56.520 someone like Steve Bannon, the sort of long time whisper 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.240 of the maga right. Bannon has argued for a while, 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:04.440 you go absolutely maximally and even if you can't get 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.040 everything eventually, you'll still get a lot because you'll overwhelm 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.440 your opposition. 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