Rachel Lindsay as a Real Housewife? Danny Pellegrino Joins to Talk ‘Bachelor’ Drama, ‘Housewives,’ and More

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Happy Hour listeners. Another Tuesday with you all and another Tuesday with my girl, Rachel, and we're so happy to be back chatting. We have a very special guest that we're gonna have on today and I'm not going to do the honors because this is our girl. Rachel's fine and so Rachel, I'm gonna give you a little drum roll because I know how excited you are. Save that drum roll for our guests, because that's We're happy, our listeners. We have a real treat for you today. For the first time ever, we have a Bachelor and Bravo crossover here. We have someone that I discovered during the pandemic. Now he is the only friend that I made during this quarantine. We clicked from the moment his voice hit my ears, it was love at first Housewife. He hosts a show called Everything Iconic, named appropriately not just for the iconic guests that come on the show, but because because of the icon hosting the show, Ladies and gentlemen, Danny Pellegrina, Well, Danny, welcome, Thank you for having me. I'm so honored to be here. Well, we are very honored and excited. Yes, Rachel's been talking about this for honestly, for wherever. So we are thrilled to be having you today. And let me just tell you, technically we shouldn't have him on here because he's our competitor. We battle it out a competitor. I actually have a bone to pick with both of you because you're always a top me. So you know what was putting you back on top was those Bachelor recaps. You know they were you know, they were doing good. But I got too coastrophobic at lakint to in. I just kindn't handle it, handle the bubble, Okay, Danny before we begin, So, I've been catching up on your podcast, and this is something that I've told Rachel this before, because my neighbor and I both agreed that we've always said Rachel has such a soothing, just incredible voice, and after listening to you on your podcast, I'm like, Damn, Danny has a like really soothing, great call me voice too. I'm like, in the presence of these like you guys need to do voiceover, we should do an ASMR thing or something like yeah, I'm like eating popcorn or something. I sort of get offended that, not by you, Rebecca, but people will DM me and they'll be like I listened to you before as I go to sleep. Or this past week I got a DM. Somebody told me I need to stop playing sound effects because they use my show to fall asleep too, and the sound effect was like waking them up. And I'm like, screw you, Like why are you listening to me to go to sleep? Okay, well you know you can always the meditation before bed. Have people pay for your app Rachel, she listens to me to add everything. Iconic listener, Like, I know when they come out, I get excited. I'm like, oh my gosh, I forgot it was Sunday and then they come early. I'm telling you, I'm an avid listener. But I listened to old episodes sometimes, like back like twenty eighteen to go to sleep, So I actually understand this. Don't take offense to it. You're you're it's a beautiful. It's a beautiful thing. Yeah. And I like the new sound effects by the way, oh thank you, thank you. I mean they're fun for you know how it is, it's like you just got to do something to entertain you at a certain point, you know, It's like absolutely, I just got to spice it up for me, which okay, since you said that, let's let's let's let me ask you this question. It's talking about spicing things up and things getting a little stale. We are both and we're we're pulling Becca in which I have a question about this as well, with Real Housewives or just Bravo in general. These we just celebrated at fifteen year fifteen year anniversary of Housewives since its inception, I personally feel like Housewives has already peaked. Yeah, totally feel like it hit its moment and now we're on the downwards. Do you feel this way, and if so, like, what is it that we can do to bring it back? Yeah? You know, I think we are on a downward spiral with it. I think there will still be moments. That's what I think is beautiful about this. I mean, every so often, even within the past six months or so, there'll be these moments like the Erica Girardi stuff or or something that sort of sparks our interest again. And I think that will always happen with these women as long as they continue to cast these dynamic women or other dynamic women. So I think I think they'll always be moments, but something with social media I think change change quite a bit, And and the sort of community aspect of watching these shows I think change the game a little bit too, because now we watch and we follow them along on social media too, and so we know a little bit too much about them sometimes. So as as much fun as those moments are, when there's a big breaking news story with like Erica Girardi or something like that, I think in the actual watching of the shows, it's like we've almost seen the relationships already play out. I don't know if that makes sense. When do you both feel like it's reached its peak? Like is there a series or the City or an episode Rachel that makes you say that. I can't think of a particular moment, but I would say maybe it's when, like I'll use OC for an example, OC has fallen off in such a way and they've gotten rid of or people have left, key people that really brought a lot to the show, and there was this synergy of with the women. You felt like they were genuine friends and they probably hung out outside of this and the arguments were real, and now you have all these randos. Sorry, you know, like nothing personal to the women that it just doesn't make any sense. And I feel like that's when it's going down, because you feel too disconnected, like you maybe Danny plain into, like you know too much of them from their real lives through social media, where you're like, they're not actually hanging out or this isn't actually a storyline in their real life type of thing. Yeah, as much as we know that the whole artifice of this TV show is they're putting people together that wouldn't ordinarily be friends, there still has to be some believability that some of the women would be natural friends. And so I think with Orange County specifically, it's like none of them actually feel like they would be friends in real life. Even within those parameters. It's like I can't even suspend my disbelief to feel like Shannon would ever be friends with Kelly Dodd or or Gina, Like it just wouldn't. You can tell. And they they're not good at actors to prove us wrong. My peak personally was the New York the boat trip where they the boat almost capsized and it was sort of this like beautiful peak of that social media stuff, like we had heard about this boat almost capsizing and all of this stuff was playing out in page six, so we were excited about the episode. Then the episode was even better than sort of what was played out I think in the press. And then there was a bunch of other stuff going on at that time in the show. There was this great character or this great friendship struggle between Bethany and Carol, and then there was a lot of comedy of like these women also I mean, I hate to laugh at but they also got like parasites on the trip, and so they all were like going to the bathroom on the floor. Yeah, yeah, I want to shoot on the floor or the bed, and then ramon, I shoot on the floor. I guess really happened. That sounds like a guy from my season pooped on the floor in your season. Well, rumor has it that, um a guy named Lincoln, Remember Lincoln. He was one of the guys that I met early. Yeah, he had a lot of other stuff out there, you know, circulating too, But um, that was that was maybe that was maybe that for Real Housewives, and that's where they got the content the material. Who knows well the original poop Girl was play with play reality TV history. Who moved on the floor? If you could be any housewife for a day, Who would you be and why? I mean, I don't know that I'd love to do that, but I would love to hop into New York. I mean, we talk about New York and I just would love to kind of be around for one of those filmings because I do think they're all big characters and they make me laugh so much. So I would just kind of like to observe. I don't know that I could hang with them, Like I'm not good with confrontation, so I would immediately like retreat if anyone was coming after me or like I don't that I'm not good with that. And sometimes on my show, like when I have a housewife on or I'll notice how they are, how they play into those stereotypes of like wanting to argue or feud, and I'm like, this is not comfortable for me or I can sense that, and so I would run from any of that. But I would like to be in New York to just see it. I wish I could. So I have been approached to be on a Housewives franchise Dallas and Miami and Miami recently. Yes, they have like different from different people. They've been like Hey, are you guys interested in this? I'm like, no, we don't even live in Miami anymore. I could never be a part of a bread but I love confrontation, so I would live. Like I'm watching it. I'm like, oh, if I could just like get there, and I have a thing or two to say to this one. I've really if I could like step outside of my body and be a part of a franchise, I totally would, But I can't. I can't do it. Could you ever do like a little guest appearance for a couple of those I would totally be a friend of right, Yeah, but I but the right franchise. But I'm excited about the Miami reboot because I know those producers over there, and I think everything I hear, I think it's gonna be really really great, and I'm excited. I would want to be like more of a talking head. I have a fantasy of just like I don't want to be in the mix. I just want to be able to like be in the talking head and comment on all the absurdity, which is sort of what I guess I do on my show anyway. But I think that would be really fun and I always think like, like Bethany was really great at giving a good confessional line. There's certain housewife Nini's really great at a confessional, Like she just would step in in front of that camera and was always so funny and always gave great soundbites. I would like to do that. Are there any cities that you think would be great to add to the franchise? Like I've told Rachel this before, because I go down to Coronado quite a bit and I'm like, Damn, I can't believe there's not a real Housewives of Coronado because every time I'm down there, like there is drama going on with like the Navy Wives and like the school Moms, and everyone's just like really rich to begin want to be able to live on the island. So I would personally love to see a real Housewives of Coronado. But are there any cities that you feel like we're missing at this point that could be great? Coronado would be really fun. Nan. I always say, I wish Orange County, like we've said, has been on the decline. It's like not great. I wish they would just kind of pivot away from Orange County and do something the same production company just moving over to Coronado or San Diego or something like that, like in the area. I also think Vegas. I've been saying a lot, like I'm from the Midwest. I'm from Ohio, so I would love like a Cleveland. But I don't think that's going to happen. But I think a Vegas the showgirl culture and sort of like the CD underbelly of Vegas would be really interesting to me. That's like sort of New Orleans. I think it would be really cool too. I think there's like a you know, any place that has like a really distinct culture I think would be good. But but Vegas. I love a Vegas set show in general, and I think the show girl kind of that world has always been fascinating to me. I'm surprised you didn't say Chicago. I would love Chicago too. I mean, yeah, I'm Midwest boy. I would love Chicago. And I understand they've like maybe tested some shows and they've tried some stuff there that that hasn't really worked. You know, I watched Summer House a lot too. There's this guy from Minnesota on there, and this U you know, a few weeks ago he was getting in a with another cast member and his insult like this big insult that he hurled that this other guy was like, I don't like you, and I was just thinking, that's like so Midwest. She's from Minnesota, would say. I was like, that was like the meanest thing you could think of. I don't like you. That would be me like getting in a fight with somebody. I'd be like, well you really suck, but your cast roll is great. That would be that. So I feel like, what would be Midwest house? So I was, which would be fun in its own sort of world too, but we could do like a real house. So I was like Fargo or something, if you will, I like Chinese City, I exactly. I always say Becca needs a little of me and I need a little of Scca. Rachel. How you met with the two cities you mentioned? Like, did you have extensive meetings? Was it a phone call? Like? What was that? No? No? No, no. They someone approached me like a manager of someone was like, hey, they're interested in you. Someone else's friend was in casting and they're like they're interested. And I immediately am like no for Dallas. Though they came to me, they messaged me or emailed me, and I was like, Um, this person would be great. I think I sent them Alexis, and then Alexis sent them to my older sister. So my older sister actually started kind of going through it. She listens to your podcast too, and so she saw the list of questions and the questions that they ask you are like, what are you and your husband argue over? And I immediately was like, absolutely not. This could never be me because this is what I tell people about the difference between the Bachelor and Housewives. The Bachelor, you know me in that world, living in that house with those people. You don't know what car I drive, the friends I hang with, what the inner workings of my life are, and I like the separation. If I could just pop up as a friend for conflict, I'd totally be in. Right. If Beverly Hills calls this friend of Garcel, I'm in. I should tell Garsel that happen of The interesting thing about Bachelor Too is it's one season versus Housewives. Usually these women are with us for at least like two seasons. Usually I think eighty percent of the housewives make it past their first season. So the whole idea of the real Housewives, it's like the people are built up to kind of make you question how you feel about them. So they want you to fall in love with someone, and then to make good TV, they want to make the audience question how you feel about that person? So over the course of these seasons, it's like no one, very rarely does someone go unscathed, because if you fall in love with them and they get a really good editor, if they're really beloved by the audience, then to make good TV, they're gonna make the audience question, do I love that person? Wait? Maybe I'm turning on that person. That's how they're keeping us interested. So I think it's impossible to kind of go through it as a fan favorite or something like that. Yeah, yeah, do you guys know? Okay, so Danny, when we film the Badcheer and Badchherrette for them, most part, everything's in real time, like during the days you're going on the dates, you're in the house with all the contestants or with the lead, you're constantly being pulled for interviews, so it's all pretty much real time. But I've heard and I could be wrong, but like Housewives, even in like Kardashian's other reality shows like that, it's all filmed, but then they go back for like their interviews, and do they make it feel like it's in real time but they're really being questioned like all after the filming's done, like weeks or months later. I think it depends on each franchise is produced by a different production company, So I think some of them do like smaller interviews throughout the season, and then other ones maybe do like a full day and they just maybe do like two full days or something. I don't know the exact details of it, but you know what's interesting talking about those interviews as I was just reading about the world of The Bachelor, and I don't know where this interview was, but they were saying, like for The Bachelor or Bachette interviews, people are asked the same question over and over again, so you eventually just snap, is that a thing? I don't remember that? I'm gonna be honest. During The Bachelor, I was probably lit in ninety five percent of my interviews same like, like legit, they hadn't even have to ask you a bunch of times, what do you want to know? You know what they'll do though, is like I mean, they're always kind of asking you the same series of questions to get to how you feel your emotions about a certain person. And for the men who go a long longer, they're going to keep asking you kind of similar questions to see where you started with in your relationship with this person versus like where you ended up to get the storyline. But they'll I never felt like they repeated the same thing over and over to the point where I mean, And maybe it's also too because I was like Rachel when I was on the bad short I was just like, you know, drinking wine like it was my job because that's all we really could do, just wasting time. Yeah, but maybe for some other people, I don't know. Everyone has such a different experience from it. But I hear that's how it happens for the housewives. I hear the housewives they just especially when they have those long days of interviews, they just like you see it, like you see them grabbing their drink. But I hear like they keep beating it over and over to them. And I think at a certain point you would just be like, Okay, what do you want for me? Like what do you want me to say? That's how I would be. I don't know that fact, but like, what do you what are you looking for right now in this moment. I'll just give it to you so we can all get out of here. Yeah. I don't really remember that, but you know, Danny, I am curious with you. You do all things Bravo, but you dip into the Bachelor world. Call it, call it the pandemic, call it quarantine. I don't know, like we were all doing things that were a little different. Why did you decide to step in and it step back out? Yeah, you know, I think it was early in the pandemic. I think the Bravos shows were kind of at a weird spot. Potomac had gotten pushed back, so we didn't have as many shows going in the Bravo world as we normally do. And so throughout the years I had watched Rachel I think I told you I watched most of your season, and I watched the Jake Pavelka season. So I was like loosely aware of this, but not not the like extreme details of the world. And so everyone has always said you should do the Bachelor, do the Bacherette or whatever. So I finally decided to and it was fascinating and people had told me that wasn't a good season because it was a pandemic filled season. I just felt claustrophobic there. And then there was a lot of there's a lot of stuff going on and sort of the outside Bachelor world that I'm not familiar with the inner details of that. People were, you know, asking me about and all of this stuff, and it's like I didn't feel smart enough to speak on it. To me, Like the whole call for diversity and stuff, that's something that's also going on in the Bravo world, but they're handled differently. And I don't even know how to explain that, but I just think they're handled differently, and so it just became it was. It was intense, and then by the end, I'm like, Okay, I'm over this, Like not, I don't want to say like I'm over those conversations. I was just over like the claustrophobia of the look content. So you only watched Clarentatious season, correct, You didn't continue with Matt season. I didn't continue, No, gotcha? And yeah, I do sort of come from my brain. I feel like it's almost broken in a way where I like these questions that were surrounding vat Nation. When I decided to really dive in, I was sort of asking, I think Rachel and I had talked about this, and like, wait, so you guys have done forty some seasons and you've had hundreds of contestants and there's never been a gay person on. Like my brain doesn't compute that, Like I don't get it, and so yeah, I just I didn't get it. It's such a different world because it's a particular audience. It's used to getting a particular product, you know, prototype of who the what the lead looks like, who they are, coming from the same background, area of the country, same religion, and when you step outside of it, you see the audience respond in not the best way. And so like that's kind of been It's it's crazy and it's not necessarily that same way for Bravo. So I think that that's there's the difference. There's a lot of um, there's a lot of complexities to it, which I'm sure you dipped into a For example, having a friend named Hannah Brown and then people being upset that you had it was Oh my god, it was a whole thing. Rachel, my friend, one of my best friends, her name is Hannah Brown, and she's been on my show a million times, and I had had her on, like I think it was after I started doing the batch at Recap, so I started to have some people who watch who came from that world listen to my show, and I was like, Oh, my friend Hannah's here or whatever. Who had She had been on the show a million times, but this was her first time with that new sort of audience. And I was getting all these messages saying like how dare you have her on? And it's like what, Like at first I didn't even understand, and then people were sending me like links to this controversy. You know, It's like I didn't even know this controversy exist. Like I try to keep up with everything that's going on in the world pop culture, but you know, it's impossible to keep up with everything. And yeah, people were sending me like very angry dms about having my friend on, and then I had to explain to people like, no, that was not that hand, that was a different hand. Uh, can we talk about this because unless you're and like Richel and I always say, like, you know, unless somebody's really on the show or as a contestant or a lead or some way affiliated with the show, they don't understand, like, especially through social media, vach Nation and the amount of hate and cruelty that is spread throughout I think to anyone who's probably is coming off the show, but even for you, who was simply doing some Bachelor recaps, you started to see it a little bit like is it okay? I've tried to explain this, so like side note, Emanuel Acho who hosted after the Final Rows this year, him and I have formed a friendship and we've had a couple conversations about, like, you know, kind of what is vacher Nation like? And after I host this, what kind of like feedback do you think I'm going to be receiving? And I told him I was like, buckle up, because I don't think anyone can prepare themselves for the amount of hate and nastiness that people from vacher Nation who have been fans and especially just like who can you know, type whatever they want, whatever hate they want at their fingertips and hit sends like you can't really fathom it until you start to see it. Were you blown away by the response for simply having a friend named Hannah Brown? On your show. Yeah, I mean I think that's sort of what I was alluding to, is like it just became a lot and I don't know, especially at the time, I just wasn't necessarily like equipped to deal with it. You know. When I started that, I had been going through like a lot of health stuff in my personal life and it was the start of the pandemic, so there was like all this stuff going on, or like that's just the last thing I have the like bandwidth to deal with in my life. But in general, even in the world of Bravo or a Housewives, it's like I think I sort of used to be of the opinion like, oh, you're on TV, it's like something you sign up for, And now now that I'm seeing it a little more closely, no one can ever be prepared to even just get one of those really nasty comments that you would see online. And nowadays there are so many different portals for people to send that to. You can't just hop off Twitter. I mean, if people want, they can get a mean message to me or you or you if they want, they can do it through a podcast review. They could do it through an email address, through a PR person, through a Twitter Instagram, LinkedIn any fucking service they can find, they'll they'll find a way to get that message to you, and no human is equipped to deal with even just one of those. And usually when you get those mean messages, you, at least for me and I don't get nearly the amount that you know, you guys probably get for being on TV. But it's like they don't teach you how to deal with that, and just because you're on TV, you're supposed to just say okay, yeah, like I signed up for that. It's like, no, I didn't sign up to get this kind of mean thing, right. Is it safe to say you're taking a long term break from the Batchelor world because of some of the crazy nastiness that was being spread out there. I mean, look, Bravo keeps me busy in general, and I like hopping around. I like doing a different show every once in a while. I did that Lindsay Lohan show I recaped for a minute, and it's like I'll hop in somewhere else and so maybe one day if it's you know, I try to go which whatever is like gonna interest me at the time, so like you know, I might pop back in or something but it's just a lot. I mean there's a there's like a culture around Bachelor Nation in a similar way there's a culture on Bravo, and I don't think many places on television or in the television landscape have those kind of fan bases. I mean, Bravo had a whole con, like a Bravo Con where people would gather and it was it was so much fun. But yeah, I find it's it's a lot. I'm not great at dealing with any of that stuff, even within the Bravo world. It's hard for me sometimes. May I make a suggestion if you come back? I think Paradise is shoot jam, I don't know how familiar you are with Paradise, but the beach that it's like guys and girls, you never know who's coming down, who's gonna you're in this relationship, I think you're all great, and then someone comes in and steals them away, and it's just a lot of that. I think there's more relationships to watching to get invested in like it just I think it was well, yeah, it had to have been the last Paradise, which was now two summers ago. It was the first relationship where two women ended up getting engaged. Actually did they get engaged, Demi getting yeah, danged Demi? Yeah, where they were actually engaged. So it's easier to get invested in more relationships. It's not just like this one straight narrowed track where it's like this guy talking about his feelings for all these different women or vice versa. It's it's it has a different spin to it. It's it's a little bit more entertaining, a little bit more like real life, if you will, Have you guys just gotten a tougher skin over the time since you're since your initial time on the show, or does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, kind of. I've always kind of had a thick skin, Like I come from a family where we joke and riff on one another, where you gotta have thick skin to be able to hang in the family. That But honestly, just being a black woman, being a lawyer and a male dominated build than going into sports, it's like I've always had to be able to hold my own. But like you said, nothing can prepare you for this world. I think for me, it's like I was thirty one when I came in. I have my friends and my family, my core who ground me, keep me humble, check me if I start acting any other way. And that's who I constantly go to and get validation from, rather than the people who you know, follow me or who don't. And I think that's the thing. I don't value my worth within those people, and that's really helps me as well. And also just the logic of if you're going to accept the praise, you got to accept the criticism too. It's a balancing act. H Yeah, It's it's very weird balancing act because you know, for me, like coming from Minnesota, I feel like for the most part, you hear the Minnesota nice you're not used to, at least for me. I came from like I had maybe four or five hundred followers on Instagram. To go from that to a million plus, it's just you're so inundated with any sort of feedback or criticism or comments, like it's just it was very overwhelming at first. And now, you know, because we've been out of the show for a few years, it's we've just grown more used to it. But I just I think for me, the people that are gonna especially the ones who are really nasty and cruel, It's like at the end of the day like that that reflects so much more on who you are as a person than what you're saying. I am, Um, it's weird, like sometimes it's in a sad way, like I kind of find some of the responses are the dam's funny because I'm like, really, like you have to go. It's just it's crazy the ones that like, there are some they're few and far between that get to me that are more like, um, they bring my family into it, or they talk about my dad who has been you know, deceased now for a decade, like bringing him into it and being like he would be so disappointed and you know he's probably rolling over in his grave stuff like that, where I'm like, okay, that's not okay. And now at this point I've gotten I told Rachel this last week, a ship level is like zero at this point that I'm just like I'll just put them on blast and just put them on like I wouldn't even like hide their face for their name on Instagram. I'll just put it on my story and be like, well, if you're going to dish it, you might as well be able to take it. So yeah, I've been popping off for such a long time, almost kind of like feed off of it. Sometimes I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna say something that's going to get people, folks all riled up. Yeah, by the way that I really have to go back to that last season. I did watch at the Lakinta end, and I did enjoy a lot of it. So I don't want it to seem like I hated it because there was a lot of it. I mean I loved the clear portion of it the most because I thought it was just so very unhinged in reality TV sort of world. And I fell in love with Kenny, like I follow him on Instagram. Still, I don't know, do we like him? Do we like ny? It was because of you that I learned about the images. Yeah, Kenny's naked pictures are beautiful holding the cock, you know what I mean? Well, it was that. I mean I was like, oh my gosh, that's how I like immediately ran too Google and then I fell asleep and I will look up the next day and I looked at like I was trying to Google something and I was like, oh my god, thank god nobody was behind me, because I was just Kitty's To this day Kenny, and I will still DM if I ever see like a rooster in a store or like, you know, like they have like the rooster like cookie holders of things, like if I ever see one. Now, I just DMI any kind of cock icy. Like the other day I was looking at a home and I was on the third floor balcony and I looked down and this person had just like chickens roaming in their backyard, and so I just like did the super zoom of the chicken real quick. But yeah, we like Kenny. Kenny Kitty is so sweet, so gorgeous, and he's very I think he lives in Chicago, and he's the only one I think besides Rachel. You you know, there's not a lot of people from the Batchel world that I follow on Instagram, but I follow him and he seems like a nice Chicago boy, like the kind of guy I would have liked growing up. Like, I don't know, I get that pressure from Yeah, no, it's totally Like I'm speaking of impressions. You do several of them on the shop. I have to know which one's your favorite, and I pray that it's it's mine, and if it's not, I'm so I'm gonna ask you to do it anyway. You know, the impressions are, I don't I feel like I'm a terrible impression of impressionist and maybe that's why people like them. But um, the lou Anne one is fun because it's she's it's just the cookie monster, you know. She say, oh, it's really it's terrible, like it's I sound like the cookie monster. People say like Grover from Sesame Street or Yoda, And every time you do Luanne, and I was praying that was the one that you said, I cackle out loud, like it never gets old to me. It's always unexpected. It's not that you gotta listen to Louisa remember this impression that he just did. It's funny that you say that because I was just recapping like the Real House is New York trailer that came out, and so I hadn't done that lu An impression in a while, and so I did it in this episode. I did. And later, like my boyfriend was talking to me and I'm just like, I don't really want to talk now, like I was being so dramatic, like on my voice is really tired or something. He's like, what's wrong I was like, I was, you know, doing Lan earlier, and it was like I just like came back from war or something like I can't speak Damie. I will say, I just listen to your most recent podcasts where you you recapped the Roni trailer and just listening to that clip of what is to come? I mean, and I hate to admit this in Rachel knows, I have to get caught up on Real Housewives. I used to be a huge fan back in the day. I kind of hopped off the bandwagon for a little bit, but so Minnesota right there, I did that bandwagon. I know, I'm with a fellow and Westerner. Come about hop back in with New York. It's the best. Yeah, well, no, no, no, that and that, I will say that trailer, and then I watched it actually, so I listened to it and then I watched it and I was like, I'm sold, signed me up. What night does it air? Because I'm gonna be at Rachel's place watching it come. It's so it's to be a new thing. I can't and those women are like that in real life, like having been out around them. It's it's a joy to watch it. I didn't I tell you, Danny that Sonia tried to invite herself to my bachelorette party. Yeah, I think to do cabaret. She want to be to hire her to do cabaret to come to Coaster, I wasn't going to pay her for that. I wasn't going to pay her another fake batchel atte party just so she can come and do this. Please. I would do it in New York. Yes, like hi listening, I would hire you for a cabaret show. And it doesn't even need to be a bachelorette party right Friday night exactly. So. I think the New York women they all just feel real. It doesn't I mean they feel like wait, I should say, they feel like cartoons that are not scripted. Does that make sense? Yes, yes it does. Becca, you have to watch it. If you had to give an elevator pitch to someone who doesn't watch Bravo shows, what is it that you would say to them to reel them in? Well, for maybe who have lost their way, like Becca, she's lost her way back in for the real house, I'd say still. Unfortunately, in twenty twenty one, it's one of the only places on television scripted or otherwise that we're going to see women who are in marriages, getting out of marriages, working, starting businesses, sending kids off to school, having children. You know, the whole human experience unfortunately is not represented. I could turn on HBO and yes, once in a while there's a great mini series like Big Little Lies or something like that, but for the most part, Bravo's the only network that is giving us these three dimensional portrayals of women over forty or over fifty, over sixty. Romana's in her sixties now, I think, and she's still a very sexual person and she's still a vibrant in ways that scripted seems to not show us. And other reality TV shows tend to focus on the younger demographic, and sometimes we had some young you know, there's young people that are relatable and sort of entry points into the series if they're like sometimes thirty years old or something like that. But then I really think the shows thrive by showing that older democrat. Which I have a great question because I don't know if you've seen this, and it has yet to start. I believe they're in the middle of casting for this, but they actually are starting a new Bachelor series that is I think for people sixty and older, fifty five and older. So it's a you know, a more mature audience, more mature that's smart of people who will be dating. I mean, I personally would love to sign my mother up for it. But is that something that you could jump on board with? Oh yeah? Is it going to be like official Bachelor or is it like yeah, oh I see. I think that's great. I think they should do more of that. You know, speaking of the gay thing, it's like, I don't understand why one cycle can't just be a gay cycle like you could. We don't have to get rid of any of the regular Bachelor bacherettes, but let's throw in some old people. Let's throw in some lesbian or whatever it is. Just add them in there. We're doing all these goals, let's get some new stuff going. And in terms of like the older, the older demographic I love. I think a lot of young people love watching stuff like The Golden Girls because they're still going through the same human experience that we all are, and we want to see that. I think I think for some reason, there's this idea that young people aren't interested in an older demographic. But I think audiences actually are, and we're just not presented that at all. Yeah, I agree, well especially I mean, I mean I turned thirty last year and I just and I've said this to Rachel, I think every time we recap a season, like, it's so hard for me to start to relate now two women who are twenty two, twenty three, twenty four on the show and who are just it's it's starting to skew a little bit younger now. And so I totally am with you in like, especially when you know people have lived a full life and have gone through so many different so many more experienced, says um, and just bring such a unique set and like skill and mindset to the table. I think it is so much more interesting. Um. So I'm with you. Yeah, I want to see it. Yeah we will. It's happening started with old Bachelor. I shouldn't say it that way, Um, seasoned Bachelor season, don't you know what they're calling it? To be honest, I'll watch. Yeah, I'm more. I'm more. That's more interesting to me than just like the one. I mean, the Claire season. I watched that whole, the whole first five episodes. I'm thirty nine. It was like this big thing that she's there and like is not even old, Like why are we acting like that's something crazy? Because I was the oldest before Claire at thirty one coming in. That's that's the world. There was a season where there was a thirty one year old or thirty year old and they were calling her grandma. That's the mindset of this show. So it's and it hasn't evolved at all, I mean slowly now, but in the last nineteen years, you know, param Plus just started the Challenge. They have like an all stars version. So I don't know if you ever watched that MTV show that Challenge, it started like one hundred years ago. But now they yeah, it's still really good. But now they have a new season that's all of those people from back in the day that we used to watch or that I used to watch when I was a teenager. In the first episode, I had like a saratonin boost just seeing these people, Like there's still there's a couple of contestants over fifty and they're still very athletic, they're still very entertaining on television, and you know, I think it's right in the original Real World rebooted too, And those are conversations that they're having in the reboot are way more interesting than some of these conversations we've seen a million times with people who are twenty nine years old. Right, it seems way more superficial. You guys are just giving me so many lists of TV shows how that I have to binge. There's a lot out there. And Andy Cohen, who we all know and love, has his new series coming out Reality TV for Real or something like that down on TV, a documentary series, and that's so good too. I mean, I eat all this stuff up, so I love seeing all like the behind the scenes and I and he's the beast well. And so speaking of Andy, he was on your podcast. Was that just an absolute dream come true for you? Yeah? It was so cool talking to him about all the Households stuff was really great. But then also talking about him being like a public figure and being a father as a public figure I think is really impactful because growing up I never saw that on TV anywhere, like a gay man who was so public with his son, So that was really fascinating. And he's also a talk show junkie. I love talk shows, and so I don't know, I think he's really smart and I'm grateful for all that he's given us obviously, so it was really exciting. Yeah, I like love him. I'm so s What I loved is that he's a fan of you, and I think that's pretty That's got to be pretty cool and reassuring of the work that you do. You know, to know that, like Andy Cohen, who what do they call them on Bitch Bitch Sess Our Lord and say no June, Um, I'm mixing that whatever they call her too, but um, yeah, I haven't listened to them in a while, but I just forgot that they call her we love Yeah, they're the best too, you know. Bitch Sess was the first. Uh. I went to their first live show, so it's weird to me. I've always been a fan of this World and even them. I had them on my show too over the summer, Casey and Danielle, and it was so exciting to me because I went to their live show as just a fan of theirs in the fan of this World and it was like a rock concert. That first live show they ever did. It was like the most incredible thing ever. And now you do your own live shows. It's wild. Yeah, who have you who has made you the most nervous having done your podcast? Like, is there anyone where? Because I've I've definitely fan girled on our podcast, especially last year. We had some singers when Boucher had a spin off Listen to Your Heart series, so which I heard. It was wild and I need to get into that because the whole concept of listening to your heart just blows my mind. It was good, it was fun well, and they just brought on so many incredible musical guests as judges that like that was the really cool part. Two. Yeah, I was really nervous. I had Cameron Diaz on, and I get nervous with everyone over this zoom situation because I'm a one man band and I'm always just thinking the technology is going to fuck up and I'm just gonna lose a whole interview or something. So I was really just I wanted that to go perfectly. And and I just I grew up watching her and loving her, so she was special and and Andy was really great. I'm trying to think if there's been so many before the sort of shutdown. Jennifer love Hwett was on my show too, and I had her poster on my wall when I was growing up, and so that was wild. She like came in, she was in my kitchen recording. I was like, this is just a weird. It was a weird thing. You're like when you know David Afterdnis where he's like, is this real life? Yeah? I know people might be rolling their eyes or whatever, because you know, she's not necessarily like a list or anything now. But yeah, I had her post her on my wall as a teen, and I thought I was in love with her. Turns out I was in love with like her co stars Ryan Philippi and j Look, we have the nineties love over here, so you're in good company. You can get it. Wait, who is okay? So I want to know your nineties crushes? Oh? God, job jac Um Devin saw Off? Oh, because is that a same I looked like Casper now and then now and then I was it allowed to watch now and then? So you were unique and watch There were so many movies. That was the one where they put the putting in the balloons right and then put him in their bra Yes. I was just talking to my girlfriend about the movie that she had never seen it. So I'm trying to describe like the movie and basically like there's just like the one scene that you have to watch. Um, but do you guys remember the Hanson brothers? Oh yeah, I no, not handsome. Yeah, no Zack Hanson. Though I don't know what it was. I still have the Hanson shirt that I wear. I like, were to the airport pre COVID and I had I think like six women my age around their early thirties. Um stopped me asking where they could buy it, and I'm like, this is vintage nineteen ninety six from the CD store at the Burton Smallmall. Thanks, guys, No, yeah, no, not Hanson. Brandon Adams. That's who I was looking at. Brandon Adams. He was in Mighty Ducks. Um wait, who was he in Mighty Ducks? Because I was a huge Mighty Ducks fan. Jesse. Yeah, he was in a bunch of this movie Polly that I love, which was the black version of Polly Anna. It's so like nobody's seen it us swear with me. Um yeah he was so my crush, So my crush. Brandon Adams, Yes, yes, oh that's I also had a weird obsession with I don't know his real name, but Savage garden. Oh yeah, truly, madly, deeply singer Darren Hayes. It might wait, yeah, I want to stand we did. I love when Danny sings we um we did. We had like a nineties playlist jam the other day, Like you're I'm telling you somehow right. I remember MTV. We talked about MTV before, but they used to like their spring break coverage where like there wouldn't be a blouse in sight on the men, like they were always topless and just they would do like whip creed bikini contests and stuff like that. And for my young impression, but eyes, it was just so overwhelming. At the time. Those people were the I mean, the host were the coolest back in the day. And then it's like we don't see them at all anymore. I so wanted to be its Rachel. By the way, my boyfriend he is obsessed with your show on MTV, like obsessed with it. He's like, you have to tell Rachel that I love for sh please yes, please saw him, thank you. Maybe we'll get a season three. Oh Danny, we could talk to you on and on and on, but unfortunately we have to let you go. So it's been a treat well long overdue. Yeah, thank you. It was my pleasure. It's so nice meeting you back. And Rachel, it was so nice to see you. Thank you for having me. Okay, Danny, also, I will say, I'm going to get caught up. You've been an absolute pleasure to chat with. I'm going to continue to listen to that call me to the invoice of yours. I promise I will not fall asleep during the podcast. Um. But yeah, once I'm caught up, the three of us arguing together, we're rehashing all that we see on RONI please, I'm getting vaccinated. So come on by where we all live in the same neighborhood. And when Ronie starts, you'll both come on my show and do a recap whether you like it or not. Okay, love you back, you take care. He is such a pleasure. Danny is a fantastic sick and well, you know what's fun is we always have only people on who obviously are just so infiltrated with the world of Batch Nation that it's really refreshing, even though I have no idea what's going on right now in the real in the world of real housewives, to have somebody bring a fresh take for a new show that I can now binge watch right. He is a pop culture savant. He knows all things about everything, like he is pop up video personify, and so that's that makes it like so much more, so much more rich. It's like he does the podcast by himself and talks for forty five minutes. There is such an art, like a skill level that very few can do. They can do that and entertain you and make you laugh. Yeah, he's like, uh who Regina or um oh no, No, He's like Gretchen from from Mean Girls where they say like her hair so because it's so full of secrets. But he just like is so full of all things reality TV. And I will say like, after getting caught up on his last few episodes on his podcast, I kept thinking like, oh, are they gonna bring somebody else? Are they going to bring somebody on? And he just does it. And the fact that he can talk and as you said, just know so much and it is so well versed in it, I was like, Damn, he's incredible and it's been going on for such a long time. So yeah, it really does take some skill And I can't wait to actually sit down once I'm caught up in a chat with him again once I actually have more of a take on what he's talking I'm passionate about. So you did good, though, you did very well for not knowing Bravo. I mean, yeah, I'm trying. I'm going to keep pushing for that Real Housewives of I see a Bravo fanatic in your future. Oh she's gonna come out. 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