154 | Mastering the Art of Limit-Setting: The Power of the "Pause" in Offering Perfectly Aligned Choices
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In this episode, we get into the fine details of limit setting in play therapy sessions. I emphasize the importance of the "limit setting pause" – a crucial moment where we take a beat to understand the child's underlying emotions, needs, and motivations before setting a limit. By taking this pause, we can set limits and offer choices that truly resonate with the child's "why".
I share practical strategies to hone this skill, such as taking session notes to track the child's play themes and emotions and mental rehearsal—practicing limit-setting scenarios in our heads during routine activities like driving or exercising. This mental practice allows us to explore different "whys" behind a child's behavior and prepare effective reflections of feelings and appropriate choices.
Throughout the episode, I stress the significance of understanding the "why" behind a child's actions, as it informs the choices we offer and ensures they align with the child's original need or desire. By mastering this skill, we can set limits more effectively, maintain acceptance of the child, and create a safe and supportive environment for their therapeutic growth.
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References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G. L. (2002). Play therapy: The art of the relationship (2nd ed.). Brunner-Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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0 00:00:00,409 --> 00:00:04,309 You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks. 1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,109 Your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching. 2 00:00:08,159 --> 00:00:10,430 Hi, I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks, The Kid Counselor. 3 00:00:10,439 --> 00:00:12,869 This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,130 a master class in child-centered Play therapy 5 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:17,379 and practical support and application for your 6 00:00:17,389 --> 00:00:19,110 work with children and their families. 7 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:24,469 In today's episode, we are talking through limit setting round two. 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,790 So before the Jodi Mullen interview, 9 00:00:27,799 --> 00:00:32,590 I did part one of a limit setting theory into practice episode 10 00:00:32,819 --> 00:00:36,509 and this is the continuation of that. So part two of two 11 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:38,720 for putting limit setting into practice. 12 00:00:38,729 --> 00:00:42,310 And I mentioned this in the earlier episode, but it's worth repeating. 13 00:00:42,759 --> 00:00:47,259 I'm seeing more and more and more therapists and clinicians struggling 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,729 to actually use limit setting effectively 15 00:00:51,130 --> 00:00:53,479 in the moment with kids in sessions. 16 00:00:53,509 --> 00:00:56,610 And so I noticed that they actually are aware of the skills. 17 00:00:56,619 --> 00:00:58,849 They actually do know the ACT model, 18 00:00:59,119 --> 00:01:02,659 they are able to talk through the pieces of limit setting. 19 00:01:03,009 --> 00:01:05,610 But what is happening is that in the moment 20 00:01:05,629 --> 00:01:10,629 they're stumbling to effectively articulate those three components, 21 00:01:10,919 --> 00:01:13,069 they're only using a few but not all of 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,760 them and or they're getting stuck on the choices, 23 00:01:15,879 --> 00:01:18,010 they're not really understanding what they should 24 00:01:18,019 --> 00:01:19,790 be reflecting as far as the emotion 25 00:01:20,529 --> 00:01:22,389 and much more. So 26 00:01:22,589 --> 00:01:28,290 we're going to talk through why, what I've termed the limit setting pause 27 00:01:28,410 --> 00:01:29,389 is necessary. 28 00:01:29,769 --> 00:01:34,949 So what I mean by that is often when we start to set a limit, 29 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:40,750 we dive right in to the limit sometimes. So sometimes we jump straight to 30 00:01:42,059 --> 00:01:44,919 OK, the ball is not for throwing at my head 31 00:01:45,389 --> 00:01:47,980 because the ball just whizzed by our head, right. 32 00:01:47,989 --> 00:01:50,319 So we kind of jumped directly to the limit. 33 00:01:51,199 --> 00:01:52,500 And unfortunately, 34 00:01:52,989 --> 00:01:53,919 when we do that, 35 00:01:54,849 --> 00:02:01,139 either we are not doing the appropriate order for the three steps 36 00:02:01,569 --> 00:02:05,129 or sometimes we even if we use the acknowledgement of 37 00:02:05,139 --> 00:02:08,300 feeling and the limit and then we move to the choices 38 00:02:08,820 --> 00:02:11,770 we are missing what's actually going on 39 00:02:12,089 --> 00:02:14,300 because we're making hasty assumptions. 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,830 We will often assume that a child is doing something for a reason. 41 00:02:20,059 --> 00:02:22,720 We will assume that a child is feeling a certain way. 42 00:02:23,270 --> 00:02:25,059 We will assume that 43 00:02:25,410 --> 00:02:28,130 there's a reason behind the behavior 44 00:02:28,889 --> 00:02:32,389 and we jump straight into the limit and we do our three steps 45 00:02:33,070 --> 00:02:35,619 and it's not actually what's going on with the child. 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,690 So when we have that hastiness, 47 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:40,419 we lose the why? 48 00:02:42,259 --> 00:02:44,000 So the limit setting pause 49 00:02:44,190 --> 00:02:45,850 idea was born 50 00:02:46,020 --> 00:02:48,000 out of me coaching some 51 00:02:48,259 --> 00:02:50,990 six figure people and some play therapy pro people. 52 00:02:51,589 --> 00:02:53,789 You need to give yourself a beat 53 00:02:54,250 --> 00:02:55,449 to figure out the why. 54 00:02:56,830 --> 00:03:00,529 In other words, as soon as we feel, OK, we need to set a limit. 55 00:03:00,869 --> 00:03:05,169 And we understand there are three questions and there are three considerations, 56 00:03:05,179 --> 00:03:05,500 right? 57 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,199 And I'm sure you're rehearsing those in your head. 58 00:03:08,210 --> 00:03:11,130 But for continuity's sake, I'll make sure that we're aware of them. 59 00:03:11,199 --> 00:03:12,759 So, is this limit necessary, 60 00:03:13,229 --> 00:03:15,089 can I consistently enforce this limit? 61 00:03:15,399 --> 00:03:18,479 And if I allow this behavior to continue without setting a limit, 62 00:03:18,490 --> 00:03:20,539 can I still maintain acceptance of the child? 63 00:03:21,490 --> 00:03:26,710 We're going to very quickly microseconds process those three considerations. 64 00:03:27,039 --> 00:03:30,309 If any of those considerations lead us to needing to set a limit, 65 00:03:30,949 --> 00:03:33,699 it's almost always going to be rooted in. 66 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,889 I have to be safe. You have to be safe. 67 00:03:35,899 --> 00:03:37,559 The toys can't be broken on purpose and 68 00:03:37,570 --> 00:03:39,690 things can't be ruined intentionally in the playroom. 69 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,500 So those are the kind of two sets of three that we're going to filter through 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:46,750 in a split second. 71 00:03:46,899 --> 00:03:49,660 And when we decide, yes, I'm moving forward with the limit. 72 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:52,100 The limit setting pause needs to ensue. 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,710 So we give ourselves a beat 74 00:03:55,460 --> 00:03:58,699 and we determine the why because often we'll say 75 00:03:59,389 --> 00:04:00,789 you're really angry 76 00:04:01,460 --> 00:04:04,509 because a child is throwing something 77 00:04:05,059 --> 00:04:05,750 or 78 00:04:06,089 --> 00:04:10,460 you're really frustrated at me because they're hitting you with swords. 79 00:04:12,070 --> 00:04:14,880 But often they're not angry and they're not frustrated 80 00:04:15,679 --> 00:04:17,899 because the behavior is different than the emotion 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,309 or we might give choices 82 00:04:22,670 --> 00:04:26,779 that do not map to the original need because we missed the original need. 83 00:04:27,579 --> 00:04:28,559 The why matters. 84 00:04:29,339 --> 00:04:31,500 So when we're offering the alternatives, 85 00:04:32,359 --> 00:04:36,309 we have to make sure that those are mapping to the original desire, 86 00:04:37,369 --> 00:04:38,750 which maps to 87 00:04:39,010 --> 00:04:39,670 the why? 88 00:04:40,589 --> 00:04:42,500 So we need to be careful with our options 89 00:04:42,929 --> 00:04:44,250 because if we say 90 00:04:44,769 --> 00:04:48,640 you can choose to hit Bobo or you can choose to hit 91 00:04:49,130 --> 00:04:50,160 the 92 00:04:50,910 --> 00:04:52,040 stuffed animals, 93 00:04:52,989 --> 00:04:55,890 what if their original need wasn't actually to hit anything? 94 00:04:56,660 --> 00:04:58,880 It wasn't really rooted in aggression at all. 95 00:05:00,119 --> 00:05:01,440 It was rooted in 96 00:05:01,619 --> 00:05:02,920 power and control. 97 00:05:03,910 --> 00:05:04,209 Well, 98 00:05:04,220 --> 00:05:07,519 we would offer very different alternatives and choices if we understood 99 00:05:07,529 --> 00:05:10,170 that it was a power issue instead of an aggression issue. 100 00:05:11,869 --> 00:05:14,369 But if we don't give ourselves that pause, 101 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,290 we miss the opportunity to really understand the child's emotion 102 00:05:18,570 --> 00:05:20,029 and, or need or desire, 103 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:23,369 we miss the opportunity to really understand the why 104 00:05:23,799 --> 00:05:25,839 and then our choices get wonky 105 00:05:25,980 --> 00:05:30,290 because we can't track them back to anything that's actually true for the child. 106 00:05:31,959 --> 00:05:33,540 So I hope that that kind of helps you 107 00:05:33,549 --> 00:05:36,420 understand what the limit setting pause serves to do. 108 00:05:36,589 --> 00:05:37,950 It gives you a second 109 00:05:38,579 --> 00:05:39,260 because 110 00:05:39,559 --> 00:05:42,420 you know, an extra couple of seconds before you set a limit, 111 00:05:42,910 --> 00:05:44,540 you don't have to have 112 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,200 in the second, we have to get something out. We can wait a few seconds. 113 00:05:48,459 --> 00:05:50,859 And then when we're able to actually set the limit, 114 00:05:51,899 --> 00:05:55,609 we've given ourselves a moment to let our brains settle into what's going on. 115 00:05:56,630 --> 00:05:58,070 Is the child really angry 116 00:05:58,540 --> 00:06:00,730 or are they just behaving angrily? 117 00:06:01,929 --> 00:06:04,700 Is the child trying to prove something 118 00:06:05,859 --> 00:06:08,119 that's different than the child wanting power? 119 00:06:09,459 --> 00:06:10,910 Is the child 120 00:06:11,420 --> 00:06:14,679 using their control in the session 121 00:06:14,890 --> 00:06:18,279 to their advantage because they want to have a sense of authority. 122 00:06:20,529 --> 00:06:24,220 What choices would actually allow the original need to be met. 123 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,630 These are all things that we actually have to give our brain time to process. 124 00:06:29,709 --> 00:06:32,299 Because if we just open our mouth and start talking, 125 00:06:32,910 --> 00:06:34,200 we might actually get 126 00:06:34,359 --> 00:06:37,959 a reflection of feeling and a neutral limit and choices out, 127 00:06:38,410 --> 00:06:41,380 but they're very likely not going to be on target. 128 00:06:42,500 --> 00:06:44,760 So then I'm sure the next question that you're asking in 129 00:06:44,769 --> 00:06:47,160 your heads or maybe you're yelling them out loud to me. 130 00:06:47,170 --> 00:06:47,890 I don't know. 131 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,559 Ok. Great, Brenna. This sounds like a lovely idea. 132 00:06:50,570 --> 00:06:52,390 But how am I supposed to practice this? 133 00:06:52,399 --> 00:06:56,579 What in the world am I supposed to do to acquire this ability to do this on the fly? 134 00:06:56,589 --> 00:06:59,100 Even if I give myself a limit setting pause? 135 00:06:59,269 --> 00:07:00,440 Well, glad you asked. 136 00:07:01,049 --> 00:07:04,200 So first and foremost, you should be taking notes in your session 137 00:07:06,609 --> 00:07:07,779 and 138 00:07:08,209 --> 00:07:10,950 there's all kinds of justifications for that. 139 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:13,350 But specifically to the limit setting process, 140 00:07:13,929 --> 00:07:15,720 if you are taking notes 141 00:07:16,049 --> 00:07:18,850 by the time you need to set a limit in a session, 142 00:07:18,859 --> 00:07:23,049 unless it's the very first thing out of the gate, when you close the playroom door, 143 00:07:23,690 --> 00:07:24,950 that's unlikely. 144 00:07:25,140 --> 00:07:28,269 Almost always. By the time we get to a limit, 145 00:07:28,470 --> 00:07:31,149 you will have already identified play themes, 146 00:07:31,679 --> 00:07:35,390 you will already have identified what's going on in the session, 147 00:07:35,609 --> 00:07:38,529 what the child has been feeling, what they're working on 148 00:07:39,130 --> 00:07:40,790 what needs they're playing out, 149 00:07:41,859 --> 00:07:43,589 which allows you to map 150 00:07:44,739 --> 00:07:47,799 we've already progressed and we're already kind of on this track. 151 00:07:47,809 --> 00:07:50,570 I have a pretty good handle of what's going on in this moment. 152 00:07:51,220 --> 00:07:54,160 But you glance at your notes to see what you've already documented by that 153 00:07:54,170 --> 00:07:57,519 point instead of trying to figure it out in your brain in the moment. 154 00:07:57,730 --> 00:08:00,040 So if you're taking session notes, 155 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,600 it allows you to kind of keep track related aside, 156 00:08:04,250 --> 00:08:06,630 you know how much I love baseball. No, no surprise, 157 00:08:07,119 --> 00:08:08,059 I 158 00:08:08,260 --> 00:08:09,750 hand score games. 159 00:08:10,410 --> 00:08:13,000 And you know, there's all these new Fandangled 160 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,160 apps that allow you to score games. And so game changer is a really popular one. 161 00:08:17,170 --> 00:08:18,989 And every time we're at a tournament, you know, 162 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,089 someone's doing the game changer scoring thing like it's nonsense, 163 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,010 no offense to the game changer, aficionados out there. But 164 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:30,589 there is nothing like having a scoring book in your lap and having a pencil 165 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,469 in your hand and actually notating every single thing that happens in the game. 166 00:08:35,924 --> 00:08:40,255 And here's why I love it. So I used to do it for my son's little league games, 167 00:08:40,525 --> 00:08:46,955 every game I scored. And then now in his travel ball league, they do game changer. 168 00:08:47,054 --> 00:08:49,315 So I don't anymore, even though 169 00:08:49,515 --> 00:08:51,794 I could bring my own if I really wanted to, 170 00:08:52,114 --> 00:08:54,854 but I often will score at RAYS games as well. 171 00:08:54,984 --> 00:08:57,554 Our major league team in Tampa Bay 172 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,330 and it's not because anyone looks at my scorebook, 173 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,460 but when I have scored a game, 174 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:07,640 not only am I more aware of what's going on at any given moment, 175 00:09:08,830 --> 00:09:12,950 I remember what has happened better than if I just watched it. 176 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,659 And third, 177 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,250 I can look down 178 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,799 and tell you anything that happened in that game at a glance 179 00:09:20,570 --> 00:09:22,210 because I've documented it. 180 00:09:23,919 --> 00:09:24,799 So my 181 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,770 enlargement here or analogy, if you will 182 00:09:28,169 --> 00:09:32,520 is if you take the time to write some things down and to take notes during session, 183 00:09:32,929 --> 00:09:34,280 you're going to be more aware, 184 00:09:34,289 --> 00:09:35,940 you're going to remember it more easily and 185 00:09:35,950 --> 00:09:37,820 you can glance down and see what's happened 186 00:09:38,119 --> 00:09:39,960 in any given moment that you need to. 187 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,479 And there's all kinds of other reasons, 188 00:09:42,489 --> 00:09:44,640 but those are the ones that apply to limit setting. 189 00:09:45,070 --> 00:09:47,630 So I definitely suggest that you should be taking notes in 190 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,059 session if you have no idea what that looks like. 191 00:09:50,070 --> 00:09:52,650 And you are like, oh my gosh, where would I even start 192 00:09:52,909 --> 00:09:57,460 consider joining us in the CCPT Collective? Those are questions that you can ask. 193 00:09:57,469 --> 00:09:59,979 Those are things we can talk about on the live Zoom calls. 194 00:09:59,989 --> 00:10:02,239 And I've done all kinds of coaching and training 195 00:10:02,250 --> 00:10:05,500 about how you can start taking child-centered notes. 196 00:10:06,039 --> 00:10:08,859 But that's something that you should be doing and 197 00:10:08,869 --> 00:10:11,369 working on and adding to your skill set. 198 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,219 So that's 199 00:10:12,530 --> 00:10:14,559 my first suggestion of how you can get better at this. 200 00:10:14,750 --> 00:10:15,969 My second one is 201 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,919 you need to practice setting limits in your head, 202 00:10:20,239 --> 00:10:22,440 which I know, kind of makes you sound crazy but 203 00:10:22,869 --> 00:10:24,659 when you're in the shower, 204 00:10:24,929 --> 00:10:26,049 when you're driving, 205 00:10:26,359 --> 00:10:27,500 when you're running, 206 00:10:27,909 --> 00:10:29,330 when you're doing any 207 00:10:29,619 --> 00:10:32,659 kind of brainless monotonous type of activity. 208 00:10:32,789 --> 00:10:34,559 For me, it's when I'm swimming laps. 209 00:10:34,570 --> 00:10:35,549 Uh, yeah, I could, 210 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,780 I could bore you to death with all the things that 211 00:10:37,789 --> 00:10:41,340 I've practiced and mastered while swimming laps in a pool. 212 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:46,659 I've been a, a swimming athlete in all different types my entire life. 213 00:10:46,669 --> 00:10:48,650 Honestly, since I was very, very young, 214 00:10:48,780 --> 00:10:51,820 I've been a competitive swimmer, a synchronized swimmer, a springboard diver, 215 00:10:51,830 --> 00:10:53,179 I Wakeboard, I ski. 216 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:55,179 You name the water sport. I've done it 217 00:10:55,979 --> 00:11:00,359 and much of that involves 25 yards at a time back and forth, 218 00:11:00,369 --> 00:11:03,200 staring at tiles on the bottom of the, 219 00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:04,159 the pool. 220 00:11:05,119 --> 00:11:08,169 And there is something so helpful 221 00:11:08,669 --> 00:11:13,679 about rehearsing in your head when you're doing a repetitive monotonous, 222 00:11:13,690 --> 00:11:14,940 mindless activity. 223 00:11:15,429 --> 00:11:16,880 So, whatever that is for you, 224 00:11:17,020 --> 00:11:20,200 you know, it can be driving, showering, running, biking, 225 00:11:20,590 --> 00:11:21,369 whatever. 226 00:11:21,820 --> 00:11:22,539 But 227 00:11:23,190 --> 00:11:25,409 if you start thinking about 228 00:11:25,859 --> 00:11:27,760 X happens in my playroom, 229 00:11:27,909 --> 00:11:28,750 what do I do? 230 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:34,830 You can talk yourself through that same scenario with four different whys 231 00:11:35,789 --> 00:11:37,159 do you hear where I'm going with that? 232 00:11:37,419 --> 00:11:41,809 So you say child starts to dump the sand on the floor 233 00:11:42,429 --> 00:11:43,450 out of the sand tray? 234 00:11:44,289 --> 00:11:46,989 Ok. So that's something you would need to set a limit on. 235 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:50,690 But the why you could practice setting 236 00:11:50,700 --> 00:11:53,260 four different limits and giving four different choices 237 00:11:53,570 --> 00:11:56,450 because there could be four different reasons why a child 238 00:11:56,460 --> 00:11:58,210 would try to dump sand out of the sand tray. 239 00:12:00,479 --> 00:12:05,140 There are only so many limits that you're going to have to set in a playroom. 240 00:12:07,150 --> 00:12:07,859 Quite honestly, 241 00:12:07,869 --> 00:12:12,280 I would argue there is a finite number of limits you're going to have to set 242 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,380 because they all mapped out back to your safety. 243 00:12:16,390 --> 00:12:20,179 The child's safety and property and toys not getting ruined or broken. 244 00:12:20,929 --> 00:12:23,080 There's only so many options. 245 00:12:23,619 --> 00:12:26,500 So I know it feels really overwhelming and it feels like, oh my gosh, 246 00:12:26,510 --> 00:12:28,460 I'm never gonna be able to set limits and I'm never gonna 247 00:12:28,469 --> 00:12:31,580 be able to give choices and this just seems like so daunting, 248 00:12:31,979 --> 00:12:32,859 but it's not, 249 00:12:33,539 --> 00:12:36,900 there are only so many things that you're going to have to set limits on. 250 00:12:37,070 --> 00:12:38,690 So think about them in your head. 251 00:12:39,419 --> 00:12:40,400 What could happen? 252 00:12:41,669 --> 00:12:43,669 Child starts to 253 00:12:43,780 --> 00:12:45,280 try to open the window. 254 00:12:46,469 --> 00:12:49,729 Do I need to set a limit? What could be the reasons go 255 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,270 reflect the feeling, 256 00:12:51,460 --> 00:12:53,729 the setting, the neutral limit is easy, right? 257 00:12:53,739 --> 00:12:57,609 A is not for B, X is for Y that's really the kind of thing that stays static. 258 00:12:57,799 --> 00:13:01,690 So the window is not for opening, the sand is not for pouring on the floor. 259 00:13:01,700 --> 00:13:05,049 I mean, those are the things that don't change no matter the scenario, right? 260 00:13:05,239 --> 00:13:08,659 But your reflection of feeling and your choices are 261 00:13:08,669 --> 00:13:10,599 going to be different based on the why. 262 00:13:10,940 --> 00:13:14,330 So concoct scenarios in your head and rehearse them 263 00:13:15,869 --> 00:13:17,559 in your head, go through 264 00:13:17,820 --> 00:13:21,799 you really want to make it seem like there was a sandstorm. 265 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,859 So you wanna pour the sand on the floor because 266 00:13:24,869 --> 00:13:26,900 then it would look like there was a sandstorm. 267 00:13:27,260 --> 00:13:29,390 But the sand is not for dumping on the floor. 268 00:13:30,090 --> 00:13:34,150 You can choose to create a sandstorm and keep all the sand in the tray 269 00:13:34,599 --> 00:13:37,830 or you can choose to use the Legos and dump 270 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,549 those out and pretend that it's sand for a sandstorm. 271 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,510 Which do you choose? 272 00:13:41,750 --> 00:13:45,590 And notice that those choices would map to the child wanting to create a sandstorm. 273 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:47,909 But what if the child 274 00:13:48,340 --> 00:13:50,479 was in mess making play? 275 00:13:51,299 --> 00:13:53,539 They just feel the need to make a mess. 276 00:13:54,299 --> 00:13:57,440 That's a very different process. So you're gonna talk yourself through that. 277 00:13:57,809 --> 00:14:00,559 What if the child is in resistance phase 278 00:14:01,070 --> 00:14:03,919 and they just want ultimate power and control 279 00:14:03,929 --> 00:14:05,900 and they know that they shouldn't do it. 280 00:14:05,909 --> 00:14:08,640 So they're gonna try it because they're testing boundaries. 281 00:14:09,380 --> 00:14:11,940 What would you reflect? And what choices would you give there? 282 00:14:11,950 --> 00:14:14,890 I promise you the more you rehearse this, 283 00:14:15,020 --> 00:14:16,849 the more you practice 284 00:14:17,039 --> 00:14:18,080 this in your head, 285 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,719 the better you will get at it 286 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,940 and the easier it will come in the moment. 287 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:26,340 But if you wait until you're in a play session with a child 288 00:14:26,539 --> 00:14:28,460 and a limit is warranted, 289 00:14:29,780 --> 00:14:33,280 it's going to be very, very difficult for you to master this skill. 290 00:14:34,099 --> 00:14:37,070 So not only do you need to use the limit setting pause, 291 00:14:37,349 --> 00:14:41,200 give yourself a moment to actually consider what you say before you say it. 292 00:14:42,090 --> 00:14:46,130 But you have to have rehearsed and practiced before you get in that setting. 293 00:14:47,099 --> 00:14:51,679 That will set you up for the easiest most effective limit setting 294 00:14:51,809 --> 00:14:54,640 when you're actually working with a child in the playroom in real time. 295 00:14:55,659 --> 00:14:58,679 So I hope that's helpful for you. I hope that encourages you. 296 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,190 And there's a lot of you all that are reaching out to me with limit setting questions, 297 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,859 a lot of things I'm seeing in the videos I'm reviewing. 298 00:15:06,140 --> 00:15:10,390 So I wanna make sure that we have a handle on this because limit setting, 299 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,119 choice giving and reflecting feelings all swirl together in limit setting. 300 00:15:14,780 --> 00:15:16,650 We're using three skills in one 301 00:15:17,859 --> 00:15:20,070 and that makes it a little bit complicated. 302 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,489 Number one, but number two, there's a lot of nuance to it. 303 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,890 The why matters. 304 00:15:26,179 --> 00:15:27,739 So if we miss that, 305 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:31,619 everything else kind of falls apart and that's why the pause is so helpful. 306 00:15:31,630 --> 00:15:33,599 That's why practicing is so important. 307 00:15:34,380 --> 00:15:35,030 All right. 308 00:15:35,260 --> 00:15:36,729 So please go to playtherapynow.com 309 00:15:36,739 --> 00:15:40,030 if you would like to get on my newsletter, 310 00:15:40,039 --> 00:15:43,270 find out about my coaching groups, find out about the CCPT Collective, 311 00:15:43,530 --> 00:15:45,479 all kinds of stuff going on there. 312 00:15:45,599 --> 00:15:48,010 And gosh, it's been fun. 313 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:50,700 There's been so much activity in the Collective and there's 314 00:15:50,710 --> 00:15:52,549 been so much going on in the coaching groups and 315 00:15:52,659 --> 00:15:55,450 we're actually ready to launch the June groups soon. 316 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,575 So if you would like to coach with me, 317 00:15:57,585 --> 00:16:00,994 if you would like to be in the Play Therapy Professional Certified program. 318 00:16:01,224 --> 00:16:02,825 We have openings for June 319 00:16:02,945 --> 00:16:06,804 so you can sign up for that at playtherapypro.com 320 00:16:06,895 --> 00:16:10,934 But you can also get there from playtherapynow.com. So either one will get you there, 321 00:16:11,094 --> 00:16:15,565 reach me at brenna@thekidcounselor.com. I'd love to hear from you. 322 00:16:15,864 --> 00:16:19,164 Grateful for each to every one of you. Love y'all talk again soon. Bye. 323 00:16:20,179 --> 00:16:23,090 Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr 324 00:16:23,190 --> 00:16:26,320 Brenna Hicks. For more episodes and resources. 325 00:16:26,330 --> 00:16:31,239 Please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com.