#16 Rob

Hello, what are your top three interests? 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:13.440 Did you say, what are my top three interests? 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:14.240 Yeah? 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:15.400 Is a job interview? 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:20.560 No, I was just what's so funny? 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:21.279 Why? 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:22.720 I just want to get to know you. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:24.200 Better after forty years? 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.520 You want to give me your What's your top interest? 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:28.080 Probably my kids? 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:29.040 Children in general? 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.440 Children? Would you say, would you say couscous? I would 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.760 not say you really like cuscus? No, I wouldn't, But 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:41.280 I mean, so your children number one? Number two A 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.080 close second is couscous? And what's three? 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:44.960 What do you tell me? 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:46.600 What? What do you just tell me? 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:47.559 Where number three is? 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:48.519 Go ahead? 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:49.400 What is my number? 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:49.640 Three? 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:50.680 Mmmmm? 0:00:52.560 --> 0:01:03.360 Hanging up on me? Boom boom. Start the show from 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:10.320 Gimblet Media. I'm Jonathan Goldstein and this is Heavyweight Today's episode. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:24.600 Rob my friend, Rob Cordrey is a famous actor and 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:29.200 the fact you think I'm resentful is ridiculous. No, I'm 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.120 afraid that says more about you than it does about me. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.640 I guess you could say Robert and I have both 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.240 done pretty well. He works with famous movie stars like 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.759 Dwayne the Rock Johnson, and I work with famous podcast 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:47.160 editors like Jorge the Rock Collection Just and Boyd does 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:51.480 he have a lot of amethyst. Rob was a correspondent 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.080 on the Daily Show and stars in film franchises like 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.040 Hot Tubs, Time Machine one and two. An I star 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:05.240 in Heavyweight, the podcast you're listening to right now. So 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:09.799 good for Rob and good for me. I don't even 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.760 know why we're still talking about this, because, after all, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.280 it wasn't Dwyane Johnson who Rob recently approached with a 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:18.280 unique problem. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:19.320 It was me. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.480 Aside from a pocket full of nogi's and karate chops, 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.520 I guess there wasn't a thing the Great the Rock 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:31.560 could do for Robert. Rob is more your showbiz name, right, 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:32.960 but it's also my name. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:34.840 It is, Yeah. 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:39.760 Because of showbiz opportunities, Rob can't leave Hollywood. So he 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.919 phones me from a studio in la Hey. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:46.040 Come and start whenever you want, and we'll just keep rolling. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:51.200 Once his studio operator Laura gets us rolling, Rob tells 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.360 me his tale of woe. It all began with his daughter, Sloan. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:03:01.520 My daughter is eleven and she tripped over a log 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:03.959 and broke her arm. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.840 Sloan was at school and she tripped over a log 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.560 and fell, which was exactly how I broke my arm 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:18.440 when I was a kid. When Rob was around his 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:20.800 daughter's age, he was out in the woods with his 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.160 boy scout Troop, and he also tripped over a log 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:28.960 and broke his arm exactly like Sloane. Did you tell 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:30.639 her this story about how when you were a kid, 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:31.760 the same thing had happened to you. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.079 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.080 Every connection I make with her I kind of cherish, 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.720 and I thought there was just a funny one that 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:45.320 we broke our arms in the same exact way. So 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:50.560 she went and got a cast, and I forwarded the picture. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.680 It was this adorable picture of my daughter and her 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:57.960 purple cast, and I sent the picture to my family. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.640 Rob texted the folk to his brother, his sister, his mother, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:07.320 and his father, and so a text thread began. Do 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.640 you have the texts on you? 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:10.200 I do? 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:11.720 I think I do. Yeah, it might take me a 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:12.560 second to find sure. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:18.920 Yeah, okay, is this it's I'm just trying to find 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:19.440 the beginning. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.120 It's so long. 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.760 There's a lot about my daughter here, a lot of 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.320 ah man, that poor little girl, and so forth. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.000 When the family asked how Sloan had broken her arm, 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.600 Rob excitedly told them about the weird coincidence, and that's 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.080 when Rob's troubles began. 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:46.799 My mother immediately shot back, you never broke your arm. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.960 My mother said, I do not remember that at all. Laura, 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:54.920 do you remember that? Because my sister is the keeper 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:55.640 of memories. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.680 In a family, each member has their role the thing 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.839 that the finds them. Laura's role is keeper of memories. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.680 And immediately she texted. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.480 Back, don't recall any of this. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.120 A second later, Rob's father weighed in with ridicule. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.160 Was that the camping trip where you broke your arm 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.080 and it healed over night? Rob shot back, I had 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.080 a cast four weeks exclamation point. 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.160 Next, Rob's younger brother, Nate, chimed in. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.240 Oh boy, here we go another I broke my arm. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:34.200 I broke my arm story. Look, I'm the broken arm guy. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:39.039 That's my role in a family. Those agreed upon rolls 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:43.680 are reinforced through agreed upon stories. Rob says, the Corderies 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.200 have about a half a dozen chestnuts that get told 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.640 over and over. One of the biggies is about young 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:53.359 Nate and how he broke his arm twice. Rob's mom 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:57.400 is quick to confirm that's true, you are the broken arm. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.760 But I'm just reading this for baby him. She my 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.760 mother can't type worth a crap, and then she wrote 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.960 right after that broken arm, guy, I don't have my 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:17.960 glasses on. I was texting with them for about an 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:24.640 hour afterwards. And everyone in my family swears that I 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.000 never broke my arm. 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.039 This in spite of Rob's absolute certainty that he did 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:31.760 break his arm. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.719 It really it made me angry. It's very invalidating. 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:42.080 I felt like, you know, my mother didn't remember this experience, 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:47.039 this this that her son was in pain and had 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.160 to be taken to the hospital and was and was 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.599 in a cast and for a long time, you know, 0:06:53.720 --> 0:07:00.400 And I think I felt, I don't know, for gotten. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.680 Rob has crystal clear memories of the day it happened. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.920 I was on a camp out my troop. My boy 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:16.200 Scout troop would go on a camping trip one weekend 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:17.320 out of every month. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:19.080 It was the fall, so. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.440 I assumed we were in Plymouth, Massachusetts. It was dark, 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.680 and I was standing on a log, sort of a 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.360 log that you would sit on in front of a campfire, 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.680 and it was rolling. I was rolling it, and I 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.880 think maybe I was just trying to make people laugh. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:41.040 And I fell and knew immediately that I had broken 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.360 my arm. I've never felt that kind of pain. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.400 One of the adults on the trip, an old friend 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.080 of the family named Don Smith, took Rob to the 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:53.559 hospital where he was fitted with a cast. Afterwards, mister 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.720 Smith brought Rob back to the campground, and that night 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.520 Rob slept in the back of a pickup while mister 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.320 Smith's left up front behind the wheel of the truck. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:07.160 And I remember waking up and being in such pain, 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.840 and I think I waited there for it felt like 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.920 the longest time that I was just laboring over waking 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:14.240 him up. 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.040 I felt so bad waking him up. 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.280 Eventually, the pain became so severe that Rob had no 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.840 choice but to rouse mister Smith for a painkiller. I 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.240 asked him what else He remembers the way it smelled 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:29.760 the cast. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.160 Yeah, I mean, you know, your your arms covered up 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.679 in plaster for five to seven weeks, and so you know, 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:42.120 it smells like a gym locker that hasn't been cleaned 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:46.520 in five to seven weeks. And I remember liking the smell, 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.960 that's the weird part. And getting it off. I remember 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.079 getting it off. I remember getting the cast off, and 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.040 it smelled terrible, of course, but good to me. I 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.959 just pretended that it smelled awful while I was drinking it, 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:05.160 and my arm had just withered to nothing. It looked 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.360 like a different person's arm. I can't be making that 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:10.120 up right. 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.520 Rob fired off a series of texts to his family, 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:19.760 recounting those memories in exhaustive detail, the camp out, mister Smith, 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.720 the cast. When he finished, his mom was the first 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:24.800 to text back. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:29.880 I'm afraid you were hallucinating, sweetie. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.280 Rob tried to laugh it off, but he couldn't stop 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:39.200 thinking about it. That evening, Rob shared his frustration with 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:40.120 his wife. 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:45.120 And she patiently listened to the texts, and afterwards she 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:53.000 smiled and she said, I'm on your family's side. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.360 Gently, his wife reminded him that he's kind of absent minded. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.960 He doesn't always have the memory. Also, in their sixteen 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.840 years of marriage, Rob had never once mentioned a broken arm. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.280 Maybe Rob's mom was right, Maybe he was hallucinating. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.480 Either I'm telling the truth, Jonathan, or I'm completely insane. 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:17.760 And it could be that I'm insane. 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.600 Is Rob insane? Or had he really broken his arm? 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.640 I was going to find out, but before setting forth 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.880 on something like this, I need a call to arms, 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.440 something to stir my inards. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:31.800 Good. 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.600 So we're going to do this. I'm going to do it. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:37.600 Yeah good. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:43.760 My innerds remain unstirred, so I'm going to get right 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:44.120 on this. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:44.840 All right. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:45.480 Great. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.760 But just when I think that Rob will never give 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.040 my inards the stirring they need. 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.800 Hey, Jonathan, Yes, go get him, you son of a bitch. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.400 That's what I was good for. Yeah, that was good. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:58.800 That's good. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.680 I was going to say to that or get those bastards, 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.080 but I'd have felt weird call my family bastards. 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.800 After the break, questioning some dirty, rotten bastards. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.200 All right, great, all right, I love you very much. 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.680 Oh, thank you, thank you? Right back at you there. 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:15.880 I want you to say it. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:16.800 I love you. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.120 Yeah. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:18.319 So what. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.840 I just you know, hello, ullo. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.000 Yeah, I'm still here. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.080 So Laura is there as well. 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.160 Yeah, you dropped out a little bit there, Jonathan. 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:31.600 Oh you should repeat what you said. 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:32.160 That'd be great. 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:33.240 Rob. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:34.600 Is Rob still there here? 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:35.320 I'm still here? 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:36.240 Yeah, we're both here. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:37.760 I think there's one little section. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:38.520 Where you dropped out of it. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.040 I think you know what section that was, Jonathan. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.040 I was just I was just asking if you were 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.360 if you were still can you hear me? 0:11:46.440 --> 0:12:05.360 Laura Hello, Hi. 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:06.200 Is this Robin? 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:07.520 It is Hello? 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:08.240 Hey? 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.480 Is this Laura? It is Nate? Yes, mister Cordy, Yes, 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:14.960 is this an okay time to talk? My search for 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:19.040 the truth begins with the Quardrees. Rob's brother Nate. I'm 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.400 comfortably sitting in a chair, his sister Laura right now. 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.880 We're in Disney World, his mother Robin, I'm. 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.760 In my car in front of a post. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:32.120 Office, and his father, Steve, I'm in Florida. What makes 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.679 them all so certain that Rob never broke his arm? 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.240 No one in the family can remember it. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:42.520 His own mother, no broken arms for Rob, his own father. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.040 I certainly don't remember coming back in the cab. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.000 If there's anyone's memory in the family that I would trust, 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:49.280 it would be Lauren. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:49.840 Yeah. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:54.720 I don't think it happened. I typically remember everything from 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.559 every situation in the family, so. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:00.679 And you've not been long before. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:01.599 No. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.320 My first thought is that maybe around the time Rob 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:10.120 broke his arm, something traumatic happened in the Cordery's home life, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.640 something that might have overshadowed the accidents and thus erased 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.360 it from the collective memory. The death of a grandparent perhaps, 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:18.760 or a house fire. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:24.560 No, nothing, Well, we got cable one summer, so that 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.480 kind of derailed the entire neighborhood. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.280 What about Rob's distinct memory of that first night in 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.800 a cast? I asked them sleeping in the back of 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:41.680 a pickup truck. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.560 Mister Smith never owned a pickup, and we knew the 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:47.520 Smith's a long time. 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.000 It lived across the street Funtains for a number of years, 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:51.480 never had a pickup. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.280 Mister Smith has since died, so I can't turn to 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.880 him for confirmation about the truck. But it isn't just 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:03.640 the pickup that's suspended, it's the hospital too. Rob claims 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.200 he got his cast at the Jordan Hospital. Rob's mom 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.680 was a nurse with strong opinions, and she says the 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:15.520 Jordan hospital was a quote snake pit. She'd be damned 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.280 if she allowed any member of the quadry Klan to 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:22.200 set foot in that hospital. Shaped Butcher's College, there were 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:23.680 strict orders. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.440 If any of my kids get hurt, do not take 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:28.760 them to that hospital. 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:30.160 Go to the Jordan hospital. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.320 That would never happen. He said. He went to Jordan. 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:38.560 Hospital in his make belief pickup, and most damning of all, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.359 I broke my arm twice. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.520 The only one that I remember having a cast on 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:43.960 his arm. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.760 Was his younger brother, Maids, my younger brother. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.200 Nate broke his arm, broke. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:49.720 His arm twice. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.120 I had to be in traction with in traction for 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.760 two weeks, two weeks, for fourteen days. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.360 So the quderies aren't just a bunch of broken arm deniers. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:04.000 They all remember when Nate's arm broke, and who broke it. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.120 That was running out of the family room onto the 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.480 back patio, and it was it was concrete, and I 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:16.040 ran and I tripped and I fell and I broke 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.080 my arm. And for all of the for my entire 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:24.280 adult life, I had thought that my shoelaces were untied. 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:31.400 That is not the truth. Many years later, Rob said, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.400 you know, it wasn't your shoelace. 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:35.640 I tripped you. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.760 He stepped on my shoelace. He was behind the door, 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:51.000 and I was like, hold on, hold on, you tripped me. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:54.760 Rob didn't bring up any of this. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:57.240 Oh what a surprise. 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:06.040 According to Nate, Rob's false memory stems from guilt. Laura agrees, 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.360 saying that seeing Nate in traction was traumatic for Rob. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.000 So I don't know if he's feeling responsible. So now 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.560 he's trying to make up for it by saying, well, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:18.760 I also broke my arm. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.160 But Rob's visceral memories, the smell of the cast, the 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.880 sight of the withered arm. How could he have just 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.960 invented such concrete details. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.440 He was with Nate when Nate has his. 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.200 Cast removed, and he remembers the smell of Nate's cast. 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.200 I remember the smell of Nate's cast. So he took 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.880 it off. His arm was like yellow, and it looks 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.000 like it was like molting. It was nasty and it 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:46.320 smelled so bad. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.480 Oh. 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.320 I asked Laura if she would describe the odor as 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:57.840 reminiscent of, say, a Jim Locker, and Laura says, yes, exactly, 0:16:58.720 --> 0:16:59.960 a Jim Locker. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:06.480 I think he might have tried to steal my memory. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:19.480 Even if you're famous, you shouldn't go around stealing people's memories. 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:22.960 Hello, Jonathan, Hi. 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:27.120 How are you? After speaking with the Cordrees, I decide 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.159 that I no longer believe Rob. It isn't like I 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.560 think he's lying. It's more like I think he's insane. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:40.440 So I need to tread carefully. So I wanted I 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.760 was calling me because I wanted to report back to 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:48.600 you on some of my findings. I can't wait easy, 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:53.720 does it Johnny boy? Okay, well, I don't know that 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:59.480 it's looking great. So for one thing, I spoke to 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:07.000 your dad. Yeah, and he said that Don Smith, the 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.399 Scout leader, doesn't even own a pickup truck. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.040 Oh, he would never He would never have owned a 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:14.680 pickup truck. 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:15.920 No, he's not that kind of guy. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.159 I'm not sure if it was his. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.679 As Rob flounders for an excuse, I try my best 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.920 to understand the logic of his deranged mind. Don Smith 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.040 might have like found a pickup truck that wasn't his, 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:29.600 that you guys slept in together. 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:35.320 Yeah, yeh, I assume, like whoever had the most comfortable 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:37.520 vehicle to sleep. 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.119 But what about the snake ridden Jordan hospital? 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:40.600 I ask? 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.240 His mom swears that she'd written on his medical form 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.600 that he was never to go there, but Rob brushes 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.840 that off with another half baked excuse. It was so 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.719 late at night. He says, she probably didn't think it 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.000 was worth making the trip to take her wounded son elsewhere. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.920 You know, she's already in her robe. Her stories and 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:03.680 drinking dia coke and smoking. 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:09.520 Rob's explanations were becoming increasingly far fetched. But he was 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:13.199 sticking to his story. I had no choice but to 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.639 bring out the big guns. The other thing that you 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.960 failed to mention to me. According to your family, you 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:28.680 were responsible for Nate's broken arm. Oh no, Rob says, 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.960 Nate's arm is something he still feels bad about, which 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.679 is why he doesn't like bringing it up. So I 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.240 turned to the one piece of evidence I know Rob 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.720 can't deny. When Laura, keeper of Memories, told me about 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:46.360 nate broken arm guy getting his cast removed, her description 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:52.080 was suspiciously familiar. She mentioned Nate's withered arm and how 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.520 it smelled like a gym locker, which is. 0:19:55.480 --> 0:20:01.879 Exactly my story. Yeah. 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:07.120 So, I mean there's being forgetful and then there's completely 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:13.280 fabricating like reality. I mean that that's Yeah. 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.560 It's made me, I don't know, it's made me. 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:22.320 Kind of look back at my entire life and realize 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:28.359 that I don't remember a lot, and it makes me 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:29.280 very sad. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.280 It's finally beginning to sink in maybe Rob didn't break 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:44.280 his arm. Before we get off the phone, Rob asks 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.320 me if in spite of all this, I'll keep digging 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.960 a little longer, and I promise him I will. I'll 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:52.840 reach out to you when I have something new. 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:58.960 Great and Jonathan, Yes, I love you very very much. 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:06.120 I hear you, buddy, and you know what what, I'm 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.520 in a crowded area. 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:16.080 Hello. 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.080 Yes, my name is David Orcott. You had called him 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:21.000 up the message. 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.600 After reaching out to several of Rob's childhood friends who 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.040 remembered nothing about a broken arm, I eventually hear back 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:31.240 from David Orcott. David and Rob were in the Boy 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.359 Scouts together, and Rob recalls them taking a group of 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.240 girl Scouts on a hike during the autumn of his 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.800 broken arm. I filled David in on the alleged broken 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.879 arm and all the holes in Rob's story. Every single 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:47.840 person in his family said, what, you're crazy. You never 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.080 broke your arm, and they were quite positive of this. 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:56.359 But he is quite positive himself that he did break 0:21:56.400 --> 0:22:01.680 his arm and even has like, sorry. 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:05.560 He did break his arm. I've got a picture of 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:14.240 him with a broken arm. They need the picture. 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.560 Yeah, this is crazy. Do you still have this photograph? Oh? 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:19.639 Yeah, wow. 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:23.040 Well, you're the first person that I've spoken to who's 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:24.720 confirmed this. This is kind of amazing. 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.120 The only reason is I believe I have a scrap 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.480 book that that picture's in there. 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:32.760 That's fantastic. 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:37.000 I could check that tonight and verify it if you want, 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.800 and then if you need a scan copy or scan 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.119 of it, we could do something along those lines. It 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:43.200 won't be a problem. 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:52.000 Maybe Rob wasn't as insane as you people thought. Sorry, folks, 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.560 but according to the Gimlet Media Employee Handbook, when you've 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.640 got this much dramatic tension in a story, you have 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.440 to amp it up with a plethor of advertisements. 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:03.040 So take a. 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:06.359 Bathroom break and fix yourself a snack, not at the 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:08.879 same time, of course, and I'll catch you on the 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:18.280 b side as promised. A couple days later, I received 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:22.760 the photo from David Orcott. Rob's on vacation in Hawaii, 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:27.280 a paradise island populated by celebs like Tom Selleck and 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:32.160 Don Ho. But I just can't wait to share the news. Plus, 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:37.560 I've never talked to anyone in Hawaii before. Hawaii. Are 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:38.800 you in Hawaii right now? 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:41.480 I am. Yeah. 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:44.959 Once Rob's done bragging, I tell him I have something 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.919 to share. Okay, here we go. I'm texting it to 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:52.560 you right now. It should be on its way. 0:23:56.359 --> 0:24:02.760 I just got a text from Jonathan Goldstein that image. 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:03.560 Whoa. 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.320 The photo looks like it was shot on a nineteen 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.760 eighties in Stematic. In the foreground is a group of 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:15.159 girl scouts sitting on a ledge and behind them there's. 0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:19.200 Me in the back row with a broken arm. 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.399 The picture is pretty grainy, but you can see a 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.480 rob like boy looking little for his age compared to 0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:30.359 his friend David, who stands beside him. Rob's arm is 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.399 covered in something big and white. Is it just like 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:34.879 he remembered it with it? 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:35.240 Yes? 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:40.920 Yes, with a huge, huge cast and look and not 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:42.960 looking happy either. 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.639 Armed with this? I mean, what can they possibly say? 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:49.320 I don't know. 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:50.560 I almost feel bad for them. 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.600 Evidence in hand. Rob organizes a conference call with the 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:59.560 whole Cordery clan and to best enjoy the moment, he 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:03.280 also writes a victory speech. I'm very proud of it. 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.320 Do you need to practice it? Yes, let's hear it. 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:12.040 I can't imagine what you're all feeling right now. How 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.880 would I react if I had forgotten that my son 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.840 or brother spent five to six lonely weeks of recovery 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:25.439 shoved into a cast so bulky, so glaringly white. It 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:25.920 would not. 0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:29.120 Surprise me if strangers who at the time had been 0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.920 cursed to catch a glimpse of me lugging that albatross 0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:37.360 around still jolt awake at night, screaming. Man, that kid 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:38.920 sure did have a broken arm. 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:45.520 I'll never forget. It was a big cast. Your son, 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:51.080 your brother, will always be here to remind you that 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:55.639 when I was a kid, I definitely definitely out a 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.280 doubt broke my arm. 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.920 That's beautiful, understated, but beautiful. 0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:04.199 All right. 0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.000 So you know what, why don't we call into this 0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.520 conference line just so we'll be on the line before 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.280 they will, so we could greet them. Okay, just like 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.040 in those movies, you know what I mean, We're like 0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:15.919 someone walks into the room and then the person with 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:20.240 the evidence is sitting calmly, cross legging in an armchair. Hello, family, 0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:21.560 glad you can make it. 0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:23.160 Please make yourself comfortable. 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.399 Okay. So I'll call in and you're gonna call in 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:26.800 as well. 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.959 Right, I'm going to call in, yeah, in one in 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:42.800 one minute, okay, joining conference now? 0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:48.760 Hello, Hey Jonathan, you have Nate so far? 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.879 Oh h oh, Hi Nate. I was I was hoping 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:53.400 to get in here before everybody. 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:54.920 Mama code is here. 0:26:55.520 --> 0:27:04.879 Hi, Hi, Hi, It's Lara. 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:09.760 Oh hi, how are you, Laura. It's so nice that 0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.880 you're all here. I just got off the phone with 0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:14.520 your brother Rob. 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:16.760 Your hell. 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:25.640 Oh no, you beat us, We all beat you. Everybody's there. 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:31.200 Yeah. We were one minute into Rob's victory conference call, 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:35.560 and already his family was ruining his moment. I can 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:38.600 tell Rob needs a minute to collect himself to get 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:42.000 back into that Aloha state of mind. So, taking my 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:45.120 cues from a Southern lawyer and a Hannah Barbara cartoon 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:50.040 possibly portrayed by a large rooster wearing suspenders, I take 0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:54.280 the stage. The reason I've I've brought everyone here together 0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:58.640 is because I've uncovered a piece of evidence that I 0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:05.480 think might very well be definitive. In homage to the 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.080 original text message thread that started this whole thing, I 0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.680 group text the photo of Rob to the whole family. 0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:12.840 Here we go. 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.399 I'm about to hit send you all set mm hmm, Okay, 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.800 here we go. I just sent it. 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.639 Oh wow. 0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.440 There's a moment of silence as everyone studies the photo. 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.679 I worry that maybe it isn't clear enough that the 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.840 Corderies will contest it's even a picture of Rob, But then. 0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:40.720 Does look like Robert in a caf it does. 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.520 With Rob's identity confirmed, I give it two shakes of 0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.560 a lamb's tail for the apologies to start rolling in, 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.680 so Rob can put this whole business behind him and 0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.840 enjoy his two o'clock hula dancing class with a free 0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.280 and easy mind. But two shakes of a lamb's tail 0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:06.040 becomes three shakes and then four shakes. So do you 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:11.160 all like believe now, like definitively, that Rob was right 0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:12.120 and you guys were wrong? 0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.600 I don't know how Dad and I and Laura and 0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.840 they could not remember this? 0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:29.080 Again, A hush falls over the conference call. How could 0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:29.960 they not remember? 0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:30.720 It? 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:34.640 Just didn't make sense unless I think. 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.840 That was the camp out that they were practicing first 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.960 aid and they were using robins they getting big on 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:46.280 how when they broke an arm. 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:48.400 With that, the floodgates are open and everyone begins forwarding 0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:48.920 a theory. 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:53.520 It does vaguely look like a pretend cast because of it, 0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:55.800 like an Adobe photoshow. 0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.720 Maybe you just wore that cast when you were away 0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.120 from a health Oh right, we thought it. 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:12.320 From here, all of the Corderie small theories converge into 0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:16.120 one grand theory, which they trumpet in much the way 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.520 villagers in a Broadway musical. 0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.000 Might it kind of looks like a sling phone, Not really. 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:22.320 It does look like a sling. 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:27.959 Yeah, that's what you're saying, is a sling. So maybe sprained. 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:34.960 It was some sprain or that's what it was. Yeah, okay, 0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.000 I say if it was a sprain, then why wouldn't 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.320 you just remember a sprain? 0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:45.680 A sprain is not that memorable, just doesn't just doesn't 0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:51.280 look right. The sprain in a sling that big. 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:53.640 Right, So then it can't be a sprain. It has 0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:54.960 to be a broken arm now. 0:30:55.840 --> 0:31:00.960 But there would still be an enormous cast on a small, slight. 0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:05.840 Boy in the face of the evidence. I wonder if 0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:09.160 Rob's family is clinging to this whole sprain thing because 0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:12.040 they just feel bad for not remembering. Do you think 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.920 it's a denial out of guilt, you, guys. 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.440 I don't feel guilty. 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:22.480 I will say that my memory is imperfect and it's 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.080 altogether likely that you did break. 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:29.680 Your arm, just just likely, not one hundred percent though 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.120 I do have zero memory of it. But what about 0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.280 even seeing the photographic evidence. 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:43.320 I I'm not one hundred percent convinced, because nobody remembers it. 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.920 In this way, we go around and around. Since no 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.960 one remembers it, then it didn't happen. And if it 0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:54.800 didn't happen, how could anyone remember it? And all the 0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.840 while Rob is silent. I imagine him on the other 0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.120 end of the line, seated alone at a luau table, 0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.920 sadly picking the weeds from his grass skirt and taking 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.880 sad slow SIPs from one of those drinks that come 0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:12.640 in a flaming pineapple, the kind famous people are forever 0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:18.400 throwing at the paparazzi. Suddenly Rob lets his frustration be known. 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.280 I cannot believe that you guys are working this hard 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:29.120 to not believe that I broke my arm. 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:30.520 I did not expect this. 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:33.720 I did not expect this reaction. 0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:36.960 It seems it's going to take more than an old 0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.920 photograph to change the Quderi's cemented version of history, and 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.640 it's going to take the Cordery's belief in Rob to 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.920 make him feel sane again. So I asked the family 0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.880 what they'll need to accept that Rob broke his arm? 0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.440 Well, where's the medical records? 0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:53.440 Then I would believe it. 0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.560 Yeah, of course, Yeah, of course, of course. And if 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.880 we're able to present medical records attesting to the fact 0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:04.040 that Rob broke his arm. Would they then all apologize. 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:07.040 To Rob if this is all true, if he deserves 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:08.920 an apology, I would apologize. 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.480 Yeah, I would definitely apologize. 0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:13.160 I would feel terrible. 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.080 Absolutely, Yes, yes, I'll. 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.160 Be the first to stand up. 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:19.960 But do you think that's going to happen. 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.400 No, I don't know. 0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:31.440 I don't know if this is the time to bring 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:32.760 up the speech. 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:38.200 But I mean, yeah, I wrote a speech. I wrote 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:39.360 a victory speech. 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.320 In spite of everything. I knew that Rob was proud 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.400 of that speech, and since he'd already written it, I 0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:47.920 figured he might as well read it. 0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:56.600 So I cannot go Actually, oh, I'll start again. I 0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:58.960 can't imagine what you're all feeling right now. 0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:09.919 How would I react by and forgotten? The corderies want 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.520 written proof? But do hospitals even keep records from so 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.480 long ago, let alone a snake pit like the Jordan Hospital. 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.760 Since Rob can't be expected to interrupt this Hawaiian holiday 0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.640 with the trivial business of procuring paperwork, I decide to 0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:29.120 handle it myself. And who better to help me handle 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:33.240 it myself than someone else? And who better is someone 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:43.160 else than an actual doctor, Jackie. 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:44.399 I'm just walking home from work. 0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.360 I'm actually not far from your old apartment. 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.600 Oh really, can you check if I have any mail 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.080 for Let's get right to it. I explained to Jackie 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:57.080 that a friend of mine, a famous friend who for 0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:00.680 his own privacy I'd rather not name, was in need 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:04.400 of medical records. They were probably like easily over thirty 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.360 years ago. Do you think they would still exist, Well, it. 0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.840 Depends, but they might either get rid of them or 0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:10.839 they might have gone into deep storage, but they may 0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:12.160 have a record as a doctor. 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:13.840 Would you be able to get the records out of 0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:14.680 deep storage? 0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:16.360 Nobody can request them himself. 0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:17.000 He doesn't need me. 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.239 Well, first of all, he's a very busy man. Did 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:20.160 I mention that he is? 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:20.800 I'm not busy? 0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:21.040 Right. 0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.200 This isn't going at all the way I'd hoped. Instead 0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:30.279 of offering help, Jackie is offering jealousy of Rob. I 0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.840 explained that she's being ridiculous, that she's also my friend, 0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:38.640 but that Rob just has VIP needs the needs of 0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:39.880 a very importure. 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:41.839 Let me reiterate what I already said to you. 0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:45.040 Would I say, yeah, you said you too bad? 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.080 You said your famous friend what can your famous friend 0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:48.880 do for himself? 0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.520 Hey, you said that he could phone up and he could. 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.239 Find out he can get them himself, Yet you need 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.920 his signature on a piece of paper. 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.560 In the midst of tearing me a new bee hole, 0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.600 Jackie runs into a friend of hers named Jeremy. I'd 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.799 never heard this tone in her voice before. Could it 0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:12.359 be that an unplanned social encounter with a friend was 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:18.440 making Jackie happy? 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:22.040 Don't tell you, Oh, it's. 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:31.240 So good to say hi to Jeremy. 0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:33.400 Medical records. 0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:34.080 This is Karen. 0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:34.840 How can I help you? 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:35.719 Hi? 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:36.040 There? 0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.759 I have a question. When I explained to Karen when 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:42.400 I'm after, I expect her to say something like medical 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:47.440 records from the nineteen eighties. Dude, this is the Jordan Hospital. 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:51.520 I'm performing open heart surgery with a spatula as we speak, 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:55.560 and I'm the mother f and switchboard operator. But to 0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:59.120 my surprise, we do have records that go that far back. 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.919 We have a copy service correspondence team and if they're 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:12.399 able to find anything, lots of times they're on microfiche, 0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.400 then they can reach out. Okay, thank you so much, Okay, 0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:21.320 good luck, thank you, Okay, bye bye bye bye. I 0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.239 don't know my experience with the Jordan Hospital has been wonderful. 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:29.240 For the next seven to ten business days. I wait, 0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:34.080 but something. You don't have to wait for his deals, 0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:48.920 because here they are deals, deals, deals. An envelope arrives 0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:53.960 to my office. What's that, asks Gimlet CEO and founder 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:59.719 Alex Bloomberg. A letter, I say, A letter? He repeats, 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:05.239 what are you five billion years old? I only use Snapchat, 0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:08.920 wheat Chat, Kick, slack, poke in vox. Well do you 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.120 use email? I ask, because I've sent you a half 0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:15.200 a dozen of them about renewing my son's health insurance. 0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:19.640 He swallowed a penny over the weekend, and my words 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.960 are interrupted by the sound of Alex's fitbit, which has 0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:27.760 begun emitting a terrifying series of beeps and whistles. Alex 0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:31.560 shushes me as he studies his wrist and then, leaping 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:35.600 into the air, cries boo yah. He then walks away 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:43.120 performing tai Chi poses, and I tear open the envelope. 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.560 Inside is a single sheet of paper. At the top 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:52.279 it reads the Jordan Hospital Emergency Department. But as for 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.680 the rest of the sheep, I can't make out a word. 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:59.200 It's filled from top to bottom with doctor jargon written 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:04.560 in doctor hana, and so who better to translate than 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:08.720 an actual doctor? Jackie, I got a second. 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:10.960 Inside my turtle neck? 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:11.520 Is that okay? 0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:12.920 You're wearing a turtleneck? 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.799 Yeah, it's nice about a turtle neck? Is that has 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:16.600 no arms? 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:18.560 So it's just a neck. 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:20.160 Yep. 0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:25.120 Rather than risk another dust up by suggesting Jackie might 0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.040 not be wearing a turtleneck at all, but rather a 0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.520 neck brace, I instead text her the records so she 0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:32.400 can take a look. 0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:33.160 I can't. 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:34.440 I can't do that while I'm driving. 0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:36.120 Can you pull over to the side of the road, 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:37.200 to the shoulder of the road. 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:38.600 Absolutely not. 0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.480 You cut out there for a second. Did you say yes? 0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:41.400 I said absolutely not. 0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:42.640 You cut out again? 0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:43.120 Did you are? 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:43.919 You're pulling over? 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:45.560 Stop telling me I cut out. 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.960 I did not cut out, and I'm not pulling over. 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:54.160 I think you cut out again, So you're pulling over? Okay. 0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:58.520 So did you look at what I sent you? 0:39:58.520 --> 0:39:58.600 No? 0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.839 I didn't look at what I'm I'm on the highway, John, John, 0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:02.880 I'm on the highway. 0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.320 Just dart your eyes between the windshield and the papers 0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:10.280 that I just sent you. No, Because Jackie's neck brace 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.239 seems to be constricting the flow of kindness from her 0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.160 heart to her mouth. I decide to just read to 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.279 her what little I can make out. It was an 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:25.040 exam med Richard's forty ugh Like, where does it say 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:30.200 if he just broke his arm? FX of right distroll 0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.799 rady radius FX. 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.120 Means fracture of dystole radius. 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:39.880 FX means fractured. Yeah, so he fractured his arm. Yep, 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:44.200 so is that the same thing as breaking? Yes, so 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:45.080 he broke his arm. 0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:46.279 He broke his arm? 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:47.440 Looks like it. 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:49.640 This confirms he broke his arm. 0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:50.600 Wonderful? 0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:56.440 Are we done? 0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.359 In high spirits? I get Rob, who's just returned from 0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:05.520 another vacation back on the phone. Welcome back from Fiji. 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:06.680 Thank you very much. 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:09.840 Everything must seem like sort of like in black and white. 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:11.839 Now Fiji is not all. 0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:14.040 It sounds more exotic than it is. 0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:17.799 When Rob's done bragging, I tell him I have some 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:26.040 news I wanted to share with you. The er report cool. 0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:31.120 I'm nervous. It's because because if it's because if I 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.960 didn't break my arm, then I mean I got to 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:38.880 shut everything down and live in therapy. 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:46.880 You broke your arm? I did you did? Yeah? 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.600 Of course I did I know. 0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:59.400 Joining conference. Now, an impromptu family conference call is arranged. 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.640 Eight is traveling and unable to make it, but we 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.160 get everyone else on the line. Any last minute predictions 0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.440 anybody wants to make. Don't think there's a record of it, 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:10.920 anybody else. 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:13.280 I'm thinking a screen. 0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:23.600 Well, according to the hospital report, Rob broke his arm. 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.480 Wow, gourd, you're kidding. 0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:30.200 No, what did the hospital record say? 0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.560 I texted over and since Rob's mom is a nurse, 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.480 she decodes the report for the rest of the family. 0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:42.920 Okay, complained of pain, swelling, risk, tripped over, log landing 0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:44.040 on wrist. 0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.640 It was just as Rob had said, right, risk. 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:59.080 Distal forearm, the fracture distal radio. Wow, my full apologies, Robert. 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:01.920 The medical report has done the job. 0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:07.319 I am sorry that I don't remember this incident at all. 0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:11.600 I mean, I remember a lot of other incidentss, but yeah, 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:13.879 this one I don't remember it. But that doesn't mean 0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:15.640 that it didn't happen. 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:20.600 You've got me in two years, and I believe you. 0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:23.040 Nothing to be in tears over. 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:28.040 As his family begins to apologize, Rob begins to backpedal. 0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:33.120 I can't imagine making you apologize for this but like 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.640 I could do that. No, this is I'm just it 0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:40.840 just makes me uncomfortable. I think it's kind of understandable 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:45.279 that a group of four people would forget something like 0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:48.800 this because it was it was fairly trivial. 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:54.760 No, I disagree. I this was not trivial. It wasn't 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:59.640 a little thing. You broke your arm and I have 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:04.040 absolutely no memory of it. That makes me crazy. 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:06.960 That kind of makes me feel bad that as a parent, 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:08.719 I don't remember it. 0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:13.880 With Rob's broken arm confirmed, his parents go from doubting 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:18.760 their son to doubting themselves. What kind of parents were they? 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:22.920 All the agreed upon rolls are called into question. How 0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.800 can Laura be the keeper of memories if she failed 0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:29.360 to keep this memory? And Nate, how can he be 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.800 the broken arm guy if now there's some other broken 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:42.000 arm guy. This is the moment when Rob should be 0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.440 delivering his victory speech. In its entirety, he should be 0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:48.480 saying I told you so in a sing songy voice 0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:53.160 that is sickening to everyone. He should be gloating. But 0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.359 there's something about his family's remorse that feels worse than 0:44:56.400 --> 0:45:01.360 their disbelief. So instead, Rob tries to diffuse the situation 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:05.040 by joking around no, no, no, I don't listen. 0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.040 You weren't there for it. You probably had to write 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.520 me a note to get out of zet, which was great. 0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.200 That's probably here at the extent that you're involved. 0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.280 To reassure them, Rob falls back on the old Qudrey 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:19.520 family chestnuts. 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:23.600 I can think back to seeing little Nate in traction 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:27.759 in the hospital, and even today can probably cry over it. 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:29.920 That's that's that's memorable. 0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.759 And just like that, things begin to snap back into 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:40.160 place once again. Nate is the broken arm guy. And Laura, I. 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:42.719 Mean, I'm surprised that I don't remember it because I 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:48.080 remember stupid things like what color sneakers I had. 0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.080 And I remember one day we went for dinner or 0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:55.560 lunch at either Burger King of McDonald's, and Laura found 0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:57.200 ten dollars under the table. 0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:58.680 It was Brigham's. 0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:02.920 See I remember this, Yeah, I remember. 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:03.560 Where we were sitting. 0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:08.640 And just like that, once again, Laura is the keeper 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:17.400 of memories. After everyone gets off the phone, I stay 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:20.680 on with Rob. The calls left him feeling kind of bad, 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:25.080 especially for his mom. Before we'd all signed off, she 0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:30.280 apologized yet again, despite Rob's reassurance, she was still feeling 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:33.000 guilty and unsettled by your lack of memory. 0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:35.800 Hi, this is Robin. 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:37.360 I can't take your call. 0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:39.200 Right now, so Rob and I give her a call 0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.640 to check back in, but she isn't picking up. 0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:42.560 Thanks for calling. 0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:48.120 Hi, Mom, it's Robert William. My friend Jonathan's here. Hi, 0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:49.920 and I love you. 0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.040 Oh, I love you. Oh sorry, I. 0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.000 Was talking to my mother that time, Jonathan. 0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:59.759 Eventually, my friend Jackie did read Rob's medical report, and 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:04.520 then she texted me. This is notable for two reasons. 0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:09.840 One Jackie never texts me, and two she began the 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:14.080 text by saying, I read the report, and truthfully, the 0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:18.520 most interesting part was the remark that the patient was pleasant. 0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:23.640 Oh well, that's very nice. 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.120 And she goes on to say in an er setting, 0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:26.840 no one would ever bother writing that. 0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:33.000 Oh man, I remember getting along with the doctor and 0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:34.960 him saying that. 0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:37.320 I was a champ. 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:42.440 I just swallowed your pain. 0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:48.480 Always. 0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.520 I took great pride in being a champ. 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:53.840 In the er. 0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:57.520 Rob was pleasant in the pickup truck. He didn't want 0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:01.080 to bother anyone for a painkiller. A couple weeks later, 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:04.160 and he was leading girl scouts on a hike and 0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:08.320 ultimately maybe that's why no one remembers Rob breaking his arm, 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.440 because whether it was a big deal or not, he 0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:15.279 acted like it wasn't. Rob liked being a champ, and 0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:19.280 he still likes being a champ, making people laugh, joking 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:22.600 things off. So it was no surprise that when I 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.560 asked the Quderies what Rob's role in the family was, 0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:27.600 they all said the same thing. 0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:29.040 He's the funny guy. 0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:30.879 He was funny, he was the funny one. 0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.200 He always started sayings at the dinner table. 0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:38.120 Rob isn't an insult comic. The joke's always on him, 0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:43.240 the jokes always to make everyone else feel better. You're pleasant, 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.879 I'm good, I am. I hope you feel good about that. 0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:53.000 I do. I actually do. I ho hope that that's 0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:54.680 what people say about me. 0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:03.120 He is really funny and caring and sweet, and I 0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:06.120 love the soft side of him. 0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:10.319 This is Sloane Rob's little girl who broke her arm, 0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:14.279 whose picture in a big purple cast set this whole 0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:15.640 thing off in the first place. 0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.920 He doesn't really have a hard slot, and he's someone 0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:24.440 who you can always go to and he's not gonna 0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:27.799 yell at you or tell you like that you did 0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:28.600 something wrong. 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.800 After Sloane broke her arm, Rob told her the story 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:36.560 of how he had also broken his arm on a log, 0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.319 how he was rolling on top of it to make 0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:40.360 his friends laugh. 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.960 Anyway, it was just comforting to know that, like, I 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:48.400 wasn't the only one who tripped over a tree, because 0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:49.239 that's embarrassing. 0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:53.000 Rob told me that when no one in his family 0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:57.000 believed him, not his mother, father, sister, or brother, not 0:49:57.120 --> 0:49:59.919 even his wife, there was one person who did. 0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:06.200 Yeah, I did. I just felt like he was telling 0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:10.640 the truth. He was very frustrated that no one believed him, 0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:13.839 so I wanted to be nice to him too. 0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:20.000 In Rob's new family, everyone is still growing into their roles. 0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:24.920 So for now, Sloan is the bookworm, her little sister 0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:30.160 Marlowe is the rocker, always playing her electric guitar. And Rob, 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:34.719 to them, isn't the funny one or even the famous one. 0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:39.120 He's the soft one, the sweet and caring one. 0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:47.359 Thank you, Jonathan, Thank you Rob, and hey John, Johnny. Yeah, 0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:48.839 I love you very much. 0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.280 I love you Rob. 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:54.239 Yeah. 0:50:55.719 --> 0:51:03.640 Okay, good bye, okay, bye bye. 0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:20.879 Now that the Fernitures return to its goodwill home, Now 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:25.719 that the last month's rent is skiming with the damage 0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:32.400 the bottle. Take this moment to deserve, if we meant it, 0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:40.880 if we talk, we felt around from far too, from. 0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:49.400 Things that accidentally. Heavyweight is hosted and produced by me 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:53.520 Jonathan Goldstein, along with Khalila Holt, Peter Bresnan, and Stevie Lane. 0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:57.160 The show is edited by Jorge Just, with additional editing 0:51:57.239 --> 0:52:00.880 by Alex Bloomberg. Special thanks to Emily Khn and Fia Bennen, 0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:05.800 Ba Parker, Matthew Nelson, Sandra Cordery, and Jackie Cohen. 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