HOUR 2 – Draymond Green is deluding himself, Austin Rivers

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Speaker 2: So there's Jimmy Tura, Jimmy Churi, wagu Ribbi, tacos, pork carnitas, tacos, lobster tostados, and spicy Miller Lighter ritas. So a margarita with Miller Lite. That's it. All of the meat provided by Heartland Steak Co. Go to the website. There got great deals for you. Taste the Heartland Difference. We'll pick our Kentucky Derby winner coming up. We know absolutely nothing of horse racing. Nothing now. I used to cover the Preakness in the Belmont. I think three or four years in a row that I would go to those races. When I was working in New York at CNN, when I was a reporter, I'd go to those and of course you're going in there, and there's certain sports where you know who knows that sport and who's just coming in. And I was one of those guys just coming in because I you know, terminology. You got to make sure you get everything right. You're just I remember talking to the legendary trainer Woodie Stevens. Oh, I think that I'm I'm doing well. You know, I'm kind of holding my own with him, horse racing lexicon language. We get done, and a PR person for the New York Racing Association came up and he goes up, hey, next time, made a couple of mistakes here, you know, referring to like the Big A Aqueduct, and I was saying that, like, oh man, you know out there the Big A. Well, Woody Stevens wasn't out at the Big A, and like just I was in over my head. And then I realized, you know what, just talk about what you know and then let people tell you what you need to know, instead of me trying to act like, oh yeah, you know, he comes out of the four hole. Then I find out that there was a horse who was blind in one eye, okay, and his name was Patch. So they had a horse who ran in the derby and this was brought up on The Gambling Podcast yesterday, Sammy P who joined us. Oh, by the way, controversy on the Gambling Podcast yesterday because Bad Larry quit, so Shyan Irving it's Dylan Big day. Ray produces that Sammy P came in. He's a professional gambler and we have Bad Larry. Well, bad Larry. Well, this is how it sounded yesterday on DP takes a gamble, Bad Larry quit.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you take my place?

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Speaker 2: Right the brakes there? Wait? Did you just did you just quit?

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Speaker 4: I offered it to Ray last week.

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Speaker 2: What this is news to me.

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Speaker 1: I'll take it, Sammy take my spot please.

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Speaker 2: So bad Larry please take it the rest of the way. Now he's better than Wow.

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Speaker 1: You think it was fun?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, Well, why don't we just keep Larry? I'm sorry we were a burden to you.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, if you want us at our football Larry, then you have to have us at our palantier off season.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we just hang up on Larry? Why don't we just say goodbye? That would be great. Okay, Larry's done.

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Speaker 6: That was it.

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Speaker 2: After three hundred episodes, Bad Larry bottles out yesterday he did the uh, I'm you don't fire me? I quit?

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I did call him later and I said, what's going on? He goes, I'm just I can't do it. You know, I can do football, but you know, I don't want to talk about Taylor Swift's next boyfriend and bet on that, you know. And I said, okay, because I'm just busy, you know, traveling and I'm not there in studio. I said, okay. I said, all right, you you're done. We're going to treat you as if you're done, and then if you want to join us during football season at any point, you can come in for a little cameo. He goes, that'd be great. So he did quit yesterday, Yes, deal, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And that was not rehearsed. That was everyone's first time hearing Larry quit. Yes, because I didn't. I didn't realize.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, come on, I didn't know that he was planning, you know, this palace coup the previous week where he told Big Ray, the Big Ray, Big Day Ray, the producer. And so we'll see, we'll see if we can get somebody to come in and sit in the seat where Larry should have been yes, deal, there's an empty chair waiting for someone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, bol And that horse you mentioned Patch, Yeah, that was the twenty eighteen Kentucky Derby, a one eyed horse. He had an eye, both eyes for a long time, but then he had an illness and had an eye removed. In twenty sixteen, he was thirty to one to win the eighteen race and he finished fourteenth with one eye.

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Speaker 2: Well, the problem is those who bet him didn't realize that his good eye was his outside on his right eye. He was just seeing the grand stand and no other horses. He thinks he's doing really well. And if he had been in on the rail, he would have seen all the horses and that would have helped him kind of navigate. So Patch can't see any of the other horses. He thinks he's doing great. Where is everyone? It feels like he's Usain Bolt. I'm doing this with one eye. Yes, yes, Tom, do we know?

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Speaker 7: I don't know what kind of studies are shown.

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Speaker 8: Do horses just run as fast as they can or do they Are they really aware of the other horses? Obviously you don't want to step on another horse, but do they.

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Speaker 2: Really understand that I know. How about we just stay in our lane here?

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Speaker 7: This is a serious question.

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Speaker 8: Do I understand that this is a competition and a lot of money's it's taken. I got to beat these other horses, I got to get there.

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Speaker 2: First, stay and just let's just stay in our lane when it comes to this horse racing, they're just waiting to get to the stud fee portion of their career. I guess yes, but yes they do know. And there are horses who have had great rivalries affirmed in aliy dr. It felt like, you know, they they were competing with each other.

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Speaker 8: A trash talk in the barn and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 7: What'd you call me?

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Speaker 9: Thank you? Todd?

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Speaker 2: Uh So that happened yesterday. That was big news on the gambling podcast Bad Larry has stepped down. Probably not the craziest thing that was said yesterday. Draymond Green has a podcast, The Draymond Green Show, and he talked about Steve Kerr's role in his career.

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Speaker 6: As much as he's done for me in basketball, a part of me think he's hindered me in my career and what I could have become. No when KD came from twenty sixteen oh, I have not had to play in our playbook, not a single play that we run for me in our playbook since twenty sixteen. But if you're going to take one gripe and not be able to move past it for all the other things, I think you're shallow as a person. That says more about you as a person than it does about Steve or whoever else than that is that you gotta take the good with the bad man.

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Speaker 2: So Draymond thinks he's a thirty point scorer, that Steve held him back, that he didn't run plays for him. All I know is if I got Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, and Clay Thompson, I'm not running any plays for you. I could make a case that Draymond hindered Steve Kerr's career, certainly in one playoff series. I give if we want to talk about all these things. You know, Draymond is a wonderful player. He was the right player at the right time for the right team. If he played in Atlanta, no one would care. I mean, Robert or told us that Rockets never ran a play for him. Big Shot Bob a guy that you would run plays for because he is a knockdown, cold blooded killer at the end of the game. And he said they never ran a play for him. What play are you running for Draymon? And once again, if I look at my first three options, I'm not getting to my fourth option. Yes, Marvin, there's.

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Speaker 10: No way I have maybe the most unstoppable offensive force ever in Kevin Durant. Wait wait, Katie, you hold on. We're gonna run pick and role play for Draymond Green? Absolutely not. No, you set the offense up. That's what you're great at. Like he was basically the point guard on that team. Yes, I don't ever like when people say, oh, Stephorr is a great point guard. No, No, he's a shooting guard. And Draymond Green was the guy that ran that offense. And you did what you were great at. And Steve Kirk put you in a great position to get paid three hundred million dollars in be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and he will be a Hall of Famer. He was a great defender, and he was a point forward. He was their best passer. Well, that's Steve putting you in your best position to be a point forward, to run the offense, to get the ball to the scores and be a great defender. So I would argue to the contrary, Steve Kerr understood. Look, Draymond was I think two time Big Ten Player of the Year at Michigan State. I think what he did in the NBA to become a Hall of Famer is a surprise to most people. But understanding your role too is key, and Draymond did understand his role. Now, he may not like it that he didn't get plays run for him, But I don't know if I would say to Steve Kerr, you know you kind of hindered me. You held me back, Yeah, PAULI, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: If you go back to when Draymond was talking in that clip, twenty sixteen was his best season. He averaged fourteen points a game, then went to ten, seven, eight, seven, and so on. But that's when he really hit his stride as a player that frustrated people. No one was scared of his scoring.

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Speaker 2: Now because he could be a dangerous three point shooter, but he wasn't an offensive threat the way I mean, once again, I've got Durant. Even if I don't have Durant, I have Stephen Clay, and chances are I'm not getting to my third option. So but look, I don't know if Draymond, I want to be fair to the context of this, I don't know if he sounds mad than what could have been. Maybe I could have been an eighteen point score per game, maybe something like that. But it feels like he thinks he could have been like a go to guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, Yeah, you could easily make the case if he's playing for Washington or Atlanta, he's twenty one to ten if he's the focal point at some point in his career, but he'd be missing the playoffs every year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to the Hall of Fame because he won championship. Yah, not because you could have averaged twenty one a game, yes, Martin.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, at best, he would have been somebody like Paul Millsap. Ooh and weird, he's not on the tip of our tongues. I'm only saying that because I'm an NBA geek, But most people don't know who Paul Millsap is, even though he had a really good career. That's what Draymond may have ended up being.

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Speaker 2: All right, recapping basketball last night. By the way, Golden State is not in the playoffs. The Nicks embarrassed the Hawks and they win the series. The Timberwolves close out the Nuggets. Seventy six ers alive, Alive and kick now. I don't think the seventy six ers have eliminated the Celtics in the NBA playoffs Since nineteen eighty two. The Celtics have knocked the seventy six ers out of the playoffs six consecutive meetings. The last time Philly eliminated Boston was nineteen eighty two.

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Speaker 2: Day start of the day stat of the Day brought to you by Indy America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Good morning if you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, download the app if you haven't done so. The uh Timberwolves knocking out the Nuggets, and boy, that's the walk of shame if you're Denver. That there was no excuse for that. Give credit to Minnesota. Minnesota matched the Bravado in then some of Denver and stood up to Joe Kerk and Jamal Murray, and they did so without their top three guards. But you imagine if you're the Knicks and there's a chance the seventy six Ers knocking off the Celtics on Saturday, Wow, you'll be big Philadelphia seventy sixer fans. This is where a team kind of figured it out a little bit. You didn't know if you're having an Embiid right. People even questioned if he was actually hurt. Yes, Mark, But here's the thing.

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Speaker 10: If you're the Knicks, do you really want to see tyrees Maxi for maybe seven games?

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Speaker 2: I would rather see him than I would Tatum and Brown in a really balanced Celtic lineup.

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Speaker 10: Jaylen Brunson, those guys had a hard time with CJ.

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Speaker 9: McCollum.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Dylan, from like a viewership standpoint, would you rather see the next play the Sixers or the Celtics like that kind of the storyline, I.

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Speaker 2: Would say the Celtics, right, you know, I mean that's a rivalry Philly though Philly New York. Eh, Yeah, I don't know. I like watching Philly because I like Tyrese Maxey, and I do have great appreciation for Joel Embiid because he's been through an awful lot and he's still playing. Like we talk about Anthony Davis being through a lot. He's not playing Joel Embiid it he is always trying to play, and he said when I'm out there, I am playing hard. Yeah, Paulie, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, if we criticize load management, but if you look at the seventy six ers this year, that's all they did. Paul George had less than four forty starts. Embiid had fewer than forty starts, and Embiid had a policy no back to backs. And look where he is right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dyl.

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Speaker 5: I think it was the first time you guys had him beat on the show and he told the story about like killing a lion.

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Speaker 2: Did we ever find out that that was true? I thought that was Minute Bowl too. Maybe then bumfed in. I think manuon Bull might have killed a lion, but I think Embiid was having fun with us. Yeah, yeah, can you check. I think Manuu Bull killed a lion.

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Speaker 10: Yes one, it was Embiid, but he did say it was not true.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but I thought manuut Bole actually killed a lion Andbiid was joking about that. I got to believe that Lyon probably didn't look at Manoup Bull and say there's not enough meat on the bone there. I'm not worried about that guy, like it's just the skewer. Yeah, all right, we'll get phone calls coming up. It is a meet Friday here and uh we'll talk some basketball coming up. Eight seven seven three DP show. I got to play this Draymond Green sound for Austin Rivers. See what he thinks of that. Uh, we'll take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: We had Joe el embiid on a while ago, maybe when he was first going into the NBA, and he told us a story about killing a lion, and I brought up and it wasn't true, but I brought up the Minute Bowls story because I remember having Minute Bowl on the show and he talked about killing a lion as well. He made it up as well. So I just want to set the record straight for those thinking that these two centers may have killed a lion. Yes, Dylan, that is disappointed. Sorry sorry. Austin Rivers, NBC Sports Analyst, and tune into the NBA Playoffs and NBC Peacock NBC Sports Network throughout the postseason, including exclusive coverage of the Western Conference Finals. Where do you want to start?

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Speaker 9: Where do I want to start?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you want to start with Atlanta against the Knicks seventy six are still alive? The Nuggets no showing?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we could start with we can start with I think the most interesting series I think right now would be Boston Boston failure, or Detroit, perhaps Orlando, especially me being in Orlando, an Orlando kid. I have to call the games and be biased, but there's a part of me that's cure.

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Speaker 9: No team very hard, i'd be lying.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been involved in a game like the Atlanta Hawks played last night?

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Speaker 9: Yes? Yes, Uh, not that bad.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's been that bad.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, not in the playoff game. In a regular season game.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I remember playing the Kevin Durant Westbrook Thunder. That's when they had Harden and all those guys, And unfortunately I was playing for the New Orleans Hornets at the time, which is no fun ever, and.

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Speaker 9: We lost by like forty eight, and.

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Speaker 3: I remember thinking this is the most humiliating thing. But then I watched last night's game and I felt much better because that happened in a playoff game, which is just egregious.

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Speaker 2: What's the locker room like when you lose by forty eight?

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Speaker 9: There's nothing really to say.

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Speaker 3: There's like, I don't know what you know, Quinn Snyder says at that halftime, you know, because they were down fifty at halftime, forty at halftime, so you know at that point the game's out of reach. You're not gonna have a forty point deficit be wiped away. So you've lost the seasons over, but you still have two quarters left. It's a very awkward situationn't be in like down twenty, there's like a there's hope, like you can you get to erase it twenty point quarter, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: In a quarter?

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Speaker 3: But forty is it's that happening. Yeah, it's just there's nothing to say. I would love to be a fly on the wall in that locker room. And it has nothing to do with Quinn.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 3: I love how people always make the you know, the loss about the coach, but he's not out there shooting and playing and he can't force guys to play a certain way. So it's like, I don't I don't know what you say.

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Speaker 2: How did Boston get into this position?

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Speaker 3: They were a lot heavily on tough shot making and to have a steady diet of that all the time, it's very difficult. They take a lot of threes. They shoot more threes than just about anybody. They take a lot of jump shots. They're two best players, honestly, their top three scorers on the team, if you're putting printchard are all ISO ISO players. And when they tap into that it can get dangerous. I think the Boston's at their best when the ball is popping and that thing is swinging around, and when Tatum has twenty two and Brown has twenty five instead of Tatum has thirty and Brown has tries to have thirty, and then the rest of the team tries to figure out what they can muster because they don't have a rhythm when they're all hooping, that's when they're dangerous. And then late game you can tap into that ISO because by that time your team has a rhythm and a feel, and your best players feel good. Everyone's feeling good. But when you're just playing this style throughout a game, it's tough. And then also they don't have anybody to guard Jojo. There's just you know, Joel Embiide has come out of nowhere and is looking like a shimmer of his healthy self, and they don't have anybody to deal with him.

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Speaker 9: And this is a this is a problem.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't like something where Philly's just played well and Boss is just going to go get it done in seven. They have legitimately no one to guard Philly's best player and that's going to be an issue for Game seven unless they just make shots. I mean, they've got to make a lot of you know, otherwise Philly could win this.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to give credit to Minnesota, but we usually don't do that in a situation like that. We got to blame the team that lost. But I have credited what Minnesota did. They don't have their top three guards. I thought that they stood up to Denver, Joker, Murray, but that's an embarrassment for the Nuggets, like bowling out like this in a game you know that you're favored to win, you're supposed to win, they don't have their guards, and then you know show, Yeah, I wonder what the future. And I know it's overreaction, but Joker's got to be looking at this. But when I got one more year than a player option, is he any closer to a title than Jannis has been in Milwaukee? Yes, The only.

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Speaker 3: Reason I say that is because they have much more in terms of trade assets, Like you have Aaron Gordon, you have Jamal Murray, you have Christian Brawn, you have Peyton Watson, you have you know a handful of.

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Speaker 9: Guys that have you know, trade value.

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Speaker 3: Whereas you look at Milwaukee, they're they're they're going that that team is not gonna be winning anything anytime soon. So you know, if you have Aaron Gordon, Peyton Watson healthy, it's a different team. Now to your argument or to your point, well, it's like, well they just lost the team that didn't have, you know, their three best players. Yes, I think Denver should have won this series. After Anthony Edwards goes down, you're supposed to win this. The problem is they are already in a whole three to one and then they're looking at this like, guys, you really have to win one game. We don't have to replay this team at a seven times. It's like you watching March Madness. Anybody can meet anybody in one game, especially for talking about pros.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 3: So you get a big game from Jaya McDaniels and Julius Randall and then some other guys, Terrence Shan and some of these other dudes come in and give you something, then you can beat them, especially a team that.

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Speaker 9: Has zero and tier defense.

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Speaker 3: And for whatever reason, this is the best we've ever seen Rudy Gobert guard Nicola. And again, Nicolea's bad dumbers are my and everybody else's good numbers. So let me just put that out there. He's one of the greatest centers of all time. But this is the and I hate saying the worst I've ever seen him play, because he's still put up good numbers. But this is the most challenged I've ever seen Nicola play. I'm just so used to him having his way with everyone, including Rudy. I've seen him have his way. I've been on the team with Rudy and seen him have his way. I've been on the other team and seen Nicolea. I've played in Nicola. I'm just I've never seen Rudy have an effect on him like this series. So it starts with Rudy. I gotta give him credit. Yeah, but yeah, it is disappointing. Got that Dever was going to come back, and I thought they were the team best fit to be able to compete in the West with some of these other teams left.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Austin Rivers NBC Sports. Who's on the phone.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I think I think a special someone. I think Austin's dad just checked in.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Doc Rivers joining us. Hey, Doc, how's it going?

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Speaker 7: Son? I'm just so proud of you. I just want to let you know. Playing it too. Tenth overall pick by the Hornets in.

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Speaker 13: The twenty twelve draft, eleven year NBA career, the Clippers.

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Speaker 7: You've played for me, your father, and son.

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Speaker 13: How wonderful is that that you could play for your dad and I could coach my son, and now NBC and Peacock. I just wanted to call and say, I'm just so proud of you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Doc. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: That was a pretty pretty damn good impression. Yeah, you had me in the first half too. Really, you and jav Fox stand alone?

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Speaker 9: My friend?

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Speaker 2: Have you heard Frenchy's Princey does? Kevin Harlan? How about that? Todd?

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Speaker 13: The Nuggets are in a nine to four run here in the third quarter and Phoenix.

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Speaker 7: Wants to talk about it. This sus the NBA ondng.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty good and I've never heard anybody immitate Kevin Harlan, So you definitely got that one in the bag.

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Speaker 9: That's pretty solid.

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Speaker 2: So you got the Lakers are underdogs against the Rockets.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Kd's status is, but this gets really dangerous if Houston wins like they're supposed to. You Reeves is back but didn't play well. So what do you expect to happen in this series the rest of it?

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Speaker 3: I think I think the Lakers can finish it out. You know, again, they got one game to win, yeah, you know, and it's there. Obviously they're without Luca, their best player, but you know, on Houston side, they're confident right now. I don't think the Kevin Durant thing is an issue as long as he doesn't play.

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Speaker 9: And I know that sounds crazy.

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Speaker 3: But they're they're winning without him. It seemed like when he plays, they're so reliant on his offensive greatness that guys just sit around and they don't play like themselves. Thompson, who's a non shooting guard, so to play with the guy who's heavy ISO, it's really hard for him to help space the floor. He's just kind of stuck out there in the mud. Some of these other dudes feel like they're more unlocked and more free. I think playing without Kevin, remember, this team was one of the most promising up and coming young teams in the NBA. They go get Kevin, and then they've kind of been in this murky water, similar to what Phoenix was in, similar to what Brooklyn was in, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: So it's tough.

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Speaker 3: Kevin's so good sometimes you just rely on him to beat teams with his ISO, but that's not gonna win in the playoffs consistently, especially at his age.

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Speaker 9: Now we're not talking about Prome Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 3: So I think without Kevin they're a better team for now, just because of where that seemed to be when he played.

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Speaker 9: It didn't seem like it was. I don't know. I'm not gonna sit here and say they have problems in the locker room and stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm not over there. I don't like to speculate. I care about what I see in front of me on the court, black and white. They're playing styles different when he plays, unless he's gonna come back and the ball is gonna move again and pop, and then he's gonna pick his his spots to have ISO and pick his points to where he wants to do that and play a little bit more without the ball in his hands. Then I would say, great, come on, come back, you know what I mean, Because he's Kevin Durant. But it seems like when he plays, his his offensive ability sometimes hinders them just because of how good he is. I know it sounds crazy, but that's what we've seen. And then he plays one game, doesn't play another game, plays one game. It's really hard for a team to go into the game not knowing what's happening, you know what I mean? Like that, what's our identity tonight? Is Kevin playing or not? Because he's not just some role player. So it's it's tough. But I have the Lakers finishing it.

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Speaker 2: Out, have the Magic figured out the Pistons.

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Speaker 9: I think the Magic are a better team. I really do.

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Speaker 3: I think Detroit has hung their hat on playing hard and physical all year, and that can get you a lot of wins regular season.

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Speaker 9: Effort. Effort steals wins in the regular season.

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Speaker 3: The problem with that being your hard hat, or being something you hang your hat on rather is in the playoffs, everyone plays hard, everyone gives their best effort when everyone's diving on the floor and going all out one hundred.

00:29:15
Speaker 9: So now it has to be more than effort, you know what I mean.

00:29:18
Speaker 3: You have to be somebody that can that can really put the ball in the basket and make plays. They only have a few of those guys that can do that, you know what I mean. So Kate is the best player in the series. He's the best player between the two teams. Everyone knows that. But who's Kate's second best player? You'd say Jalen Durant. Okay, Well, Jalen Durant's not a great offensive player. He's he's more of a defensive player, does things on both sides of the floor. Who's your third guy, Tobias Harris?

00:29:44
Speaker 9: After that?

00:29:45
Speaker 3: Who are you reaching for? There are a lot of guys who do things well. Jenkins is a good, hardworking player, two way guy converted. Ducan Robinson very a good three point shooter. But you have to create sets for him and get him his own shot. He can't create his own shot. You go to the magic can run that list. You got Paul ben Carroll, he actually has a Robin to his batman, just Franz Wagner. All right, Then they have Desmond Bane twenty point per game score. Then you have Anthony Black, another guy can create his own offense. So you know, you see what I'm saying when you talk about depth and playmaking ability and shot making ability, I think Orlando has the edge.

00:30:20
Speaker 9: I think this is a bad matchup. Orlando's not supposed to be an eight seed.

00:30:24
Speaker 3: This this is a team preseason people had being a two, three, four seed in the East, and due to injuries and them just not playing well because they're a very hot and cold team, They've had an underwhelming season. So now they find themselves as an eighth seed playing the one seed, and everyone's like shocked, but like Orlando's really good, you.

00:30:40
Speaker 9: Know what I mean. So we'll see tonight's gonna be a blood bath.

00:30:45
Speaker 2: I'll leave you with this. Draymond Green on his podcast had this to say that is head coach Steve curle Man.

00:30:52
Speaker 9: I knew this was COVID.

00:30:54
Speaker 6: As much as he's done for me in basketball, a part of me think he's hindered me in my career and what I could have become.

00:31:00
Speaker 7: He came from twenty sixteen.

00:31:01
Speaker 6: Oh, I have not had a play in our playbook, not a single play that we run for me in our playbook is twenty sixteen.

00:31:09
Speaker 9: But if you're going to take one gripe and not be able to.

00:31:11
Speaker 6: Move past it for all the other things, I think you're shallow as a person. That says more about you as a person than it does about Steve or whoever else than that is that you gotta take the good with the bad man.

00:31:24
Speaker 2: Can he be right in both cases that he wasn't featured at all? But I mean, how do you feature Draymond Green if finacere him doing what? I don't know, I think him doing what I'm trying. I'm trying to be fair to the context of this ridiculous.

00:31:45
Speaker 9: It's ridiculous.

00:31:46
Speaker 3: It's utter ridiculous, And you know, it's shocking because Draymond has such a basketball he has such a high IQ. That's what that's a big part of his game is how smart of a basketball player he is. So it's it bewilders me that he even things like this, because it's like Draymond, them taking a chance on you and them playing you, and Steve putting you at the forefront of that offense, making you be the point forward and kind of the you know, letting you allow you to have that voice and the freedom to have your you know, whether it's his you know, spasms or what he loses it, or to be the emotional leader of that team. Steve let him be who he was, so to hear he was hindered. Especially drey Bond has never been an offensive score jugg or not.

00:32:32
Speaker 9: He's left open eighty percent of the game. No one guards him.

00:32:35
Speaker 3: And because he's such a high IQ player, he's been able to take that and be a free screener for Steph Clay, He's been this enforcer.

00:32:43
Speaker 9: He does all these things defensively to dominate.

00:32:45
Speaker 3: I don't know what way he was hindered and why they would ever draw a plays for you to score.

00:32:50
Speaker 9: You were never a scorer. In fact, the teams would have loved it.

00:32:53
Speaker 3: If you were shooting, it'd be much better than step knot or Clay or Kevin Not. It's like, it's just ludicrous. I don't I don't even know where he got this from. If Draymond was on another team in the NBA, I don't know what his career would have looked like. No, no, and that's not a slight to Draymond because he is in the Hall of Fame. So it's like, take the fact that the guy that helped you get there is the guy you're saying hindered you is.

00:33:19
Speaker 9: I don't understand the point. I don't.

00:33:21
Speaker 3: I did it, and I love Dre. I love his competitive I love everything about Dre. We got drafted the same class. I just he's too smart of a basketball player to genuinely think this. There's no way. He's just too good and too smart of a basketball player.

00:33:38
Speaker 2: Robert or was with us a couple of weeks ago. He said that he never had a play run for him. Now, that's one of the great clutch shooters in NBA history, and he said when he was with the Rockets, they never ran a play for him. He would have a legitimate gripe.

00:33:56
Speaker 9: Raymond because he's offensively more forward.

00:33:59
Speaker 3: Draymond was a facilitator and a guy that just affects the game and ways half of which don't even show up on the stat sheet. Robert Horry was a guy who fects the game by putting the ball in the basket, yeah, and hit big shots. So he has a legitimate, like you said, argument to be like, man, can I get a play call for me?

00:34:15
Speaker 9: Can I get like a pick and pop.

00:34:17
Speaker 3: Can I get some type of play quick action where I can get a three off. Draymond is a guy that you would never draw up a play to get a post up because he's not a post up big player. He doesn't have post skills to score, and he's not a get a player you would draw up a play to hit a three or get a shot because he's never been a high shooting percentage three point shoot or score. So I'm confused on what he wants to drawn up for him. Maybe he wants to play drawn up for him to make a play because he can do that. He's one of the best point forwards of all time. But I don't know what he meant by that. It just seems so weird because Steven him and I feel like Steve's really embraced dre the whole experience of Draymond and let him be him and be even though he's never been the first option. Think about this, the second option, the third option, four option. When you talk about the leader of the team, he's been the number one option to allow that and let that be infester and grow. You have to get Steve credit for that, and it's worked. They got four rings out of it, so it's just weird. I don't know that was a weird comment to hear because Draymond's such a high IQ person.

00:35:16
Speaker 2: What should like to get switched out to Steph Curry.

00:35:21
Speaker 3: It's not fun. I'll be honest on an island. On an island, I'm okay. It's like, you know, if he drives by me and hits a lamp and I've done my job. You know, you when you get shipped, you know, switched out to him because I I did most of the guarding on him. I predominantly guarded Stephan playoff series. He's more, he's more dangerous without the ball. I hate chasing him. Draymond sets illegal screens. Uh but Matulia Igodala, Livingston Festus, the zeal Lee, these guys set illegal, hard ass screens.

00:35:55
Speaker 2: And that's what was so.

00:35:56
Speaker 3: Hard to guard him when you when you were guarding him on the ball as a guard, I was.

00:36:01
Speaker 9: I was okay with that, you know.

00:36:02
Speaker 3: And if you hit me with something a cool buo versus any time on the back and do it again, you know, that's kind of mindset you have to you have to have to do it again. Mindset, guard and stuff you can't get otherwise your spiritual will dwindle.

00:36:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, great appearance. Thanks for joining us, Austin. We appreciate you, Johnny. I'm so proud of you all the time.

00:36:24
Speaker 13: I'm so proud of you. You're having a great broadcast careers. Dad, very nice you did come on with Dan. Keep up to good work. You got to give me forty eight though, you gotta give me forty eight.

00:36:33
Speaker 9: Thank you, Thank you, Johns appreciate you.

00:36:36
Speaker 2: Thank you. Austin, NBC Sports Analyst tenth overall pick back. In twenty twelve, the Hornets the exclusive coverage of the Western Conference Finals on NBC Peacock, NBC Sports Network. We'll take a break back after this.

00:36:53
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00:37:05
Speaker 2: Kind of a landmark moment here on the show if you're watching on Peacock, we took down the wall in between Dylan and Fritzy, and that wall has been part of the show for a long time because McLevin hated hearing Fritzy hack up along and then Seaton didn't want to take it down either. Dylan gets in the chair and he's all of a sudden saying, can we tear down this wall? And you said yes? Then yeah, no, I'm okay with it. It's open airback here.

00:37:34
Speaker 9: Now.

00:37:34
Speaker 7: I know it is.

00:37:35
Speaker 2: Kind of weird. But when Fritzy, you know, it's like twice a year he has that horrible hacking sound. Just want to make sure you're going to be okay with that. Well, we didn't throw the wall away. It still exists in the back and could be reinstalled. It his best behavior. By the way, the gambling podcast Yesterday Bad Larry quit in the middle of the show, and also the todcast If you haven't heard the todcast with Todd Fritz get ready, here is just a portion where Todd was at best Buy. Is that right, Tod?

00:38:11
Speaker 7: Yes, I needed a new battery for my laptop.

00:38:13
Speaker 2: Okay, So we pick up the story from there.

00:38:17
Speaker 7: One embarrassing moment though.

00:38:18
Speaker 8: She came with me to best Buy and I needed like a new battery.

00:38:22
Speaker 2: For my my laptop.

00:38:24
Speaker 8: Yeah, and she has all the passwords and stuff, so she took my phone. Hey, when she takes my phone, because sometimes I forget what I may have typed in there and I didn't erase. Yes, I didn't erase the search history, and I know there's ways, but whatever it was, I didn't think I was the next thing, I'm handing over the phone and she's right there at the front desk and she's putting in like some kind of password to get like five dollars off the battery at best Buy for whatever whatever it was, and then just some adult entertainment stuff just poled and she's like really, And I didn't know what she was talking about because I didn't see what she was looking at. And then I pretty quickly realized based on her well, why is that such a big deal? Am I like replacing her with you know, I think it's.

00:38:56
Speaker 2: Maybe the setting, because you're at best Buy.

00:38:59
Speaker 8: I think she would have been a said if we were just alone in a hotel somewhere aye, less. So should I be embarrassed or should should a spouse be angry or a fiance or a boyfriend or girlfriend if the other person, yeah, if you see on their phone that they were recently watching, thinkual.

00:39:14
Speaker 12: I think.

00:39:17
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00:39:50
Speaker 12: Mister Patrick, So glad to have the opportunity to visit with you and talk with you as I roll down the road of live here during my transition from the South to the North. I just wanted to share an emotion and a feeling that apparently one Draymond Green has an inability to express, and that is gratitude. My gratitude to you for all the years of service. But we all know you are the headliner, but the real stars of the show are the dan X.

00:40:29
Speaker 2: Thank you, stretch Well.

00:40:32
Speaker 12: Recent interview you conducted with Ernie Johnson, you did mention during your last week of your show at the super Bowl in Atlanta, you might want to bring me in to do one more two minute say it a find sports that's a tribute to your outstanding career, and I wanted to express my interest in that idea.

00:40:55
Speaker 2: All right, Earl, I'll take that under advisement the Great Veneral Rank. Yeah. So Earl is a caddie and he goes to Florida for the winter. So now he's coming up here on the East coast. And got a chance to see him a few months back. But he was down in Florida caddying and that's that's what he's been doing full time. John Van Earl right over the wall Wooden Limpid. I remember when he did Headline Sports and he became a thing. Yeah, he was, you know, headline Sports. Nobody even saw us on camera at CNN, and Earle had this way of having fun with the highlights and he created a cult following. All right, top The next hour are Kentucky Derby Picks. We have no idea what we're doing, by the way, and also no idea what we're doing on the Kentucky Derby Picks as well. Dylan claims he know he's a track guy. I can bang it around, all right. Final hour in this Meet Friday with Fritzy Dylan, Marv Paul Your's true way in the back room. Guys back after this