Hour 1: Kyle Whittingham's Michigan Rumors, Travis Kelce's Crossroads

00:00:00
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

00:00:12
Speaker 2: And away we go. It is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knox sitting in for Dan and crew until noon Eastern time, nine o'clock Pacific. By the way, be sure to check out our brand new YouTube channel for the show. All you got to do is search two pros FSR and why you ask, because that's the name of our show we do before the Dan Patrick Show Monday through Friday, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn and myself and LeVar Arrington as well too. Who is not with us here, but again that's two pros FSR. Be sure to hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there, hit the thumbs up icon and comming away. Let us know who on the show you agree with, who you think is wrong. But check out our new channel on YouTube. Again, just search two pros FSR and subscribe. Then a good morning to you, bradon t Quinn.

00:01:00
Speaker 3: Good morning, a Mary blated Christmas Blated Mary I mean, how do you even go about saying that the day after?

00:01:05
Speaker 4: Can you still say Merry Christmas? After Christmas?

00:01:08
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think that's kind of a that's that's a wrap. And then now did you do the the typical tradition of you didn't even wait till the end of the day and all the like, all the lights, everything is down, decorations.

00:01:21
Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, do you do you want to just go ahead and give this some context for our listeners understand the backstory here, just one Christmas.

00:01:27
Speaker 4: Now, all of a sudden, you know, I'm that guy.

00:01:31
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Like the second Christmas is over, that's a wrap, it's time to stop.

00:01:38
Speaker 4: Okay. A few years ago we got I mean, our kids get up so early. Our our our middle.

00:01:44
Speaker 3: Child, Cassidy's five, now she was probably two at the time, but she was I mean she has always gotten up early in the morning, probably like at.

00:01:52
Speaker 4: Six of the latest, so she would wake up the rest.

00:01:55
Speaker 3: Of the of our kids and they would all go down to open gifts, so we'd be up early.

00:02:00
Speaker 4: We beat And by the way, anyone who goes through.

00:02:02
Speaker 3: Christmas with your kids, it's a wrap in like twenty minutes. I mean all the time shopping, all the stress over trying to make sure that you're getting your kid something that they love, something that they want, everything that goes along with that, and it's done in like twenty minute stops.

00:02:19
Speaker 2: It's a Kentucky Derby, it really is.

00:02:22
Speaker 3: And it's just like as a parent, you're like, oh yeah, I forgot like all this build up.

00:02:27
Speaker 4: Then it goes by so fast.

00:02:29
Speaker 3: So it was a beautiful day and we really were just kind of hanging out and playing.

00:02:34
Speaker 4: I think some of the kids end up taking a nap and I.

00:02:35
Speaker 3: Was like, well, I've got to leave after this because I had to work, so I think I was. I was flying up the next day, so I'm like, I'm gonna start taking stuff down so i don't have to do this when I get back because I was gonna be gone for a little bit. And now Jonas thinks that I'm this like grinch, this ball humbug type guy that as soon as Christmas ends, I just start taking everything and down I'm no longer celebrating the holiday, which is not the case. I although I will say our tree is already at the curb right now.

00:03:03
Speaker 2: Yes, So gotta go. I'm with you. I'm with you like it just it feels like you're just running up the score a little bit. And I don't like to live in false realities like it.

00:03:15
Speaker 4: Just you know, let's be real.

00:03:17
Speaker 3: This tree is on the curb because it was on its last leg, all right. I needed I need to find next year like a jose canseeco tree, you know, one that's just like juiced to the gills, and I know it's gonna make it through the twenty fifth. I mean I was watering that thing twice a day, like, checking on it constantly, making sure. I wasn't sure I was gonna make it. But you know, we we love having real trees, and for whatever reason this year, that was the one my kids picked out and they loved and it barely held on.

00:03:45
Speaker 4: So we were going to wait another day before we took it out to the curb.

00:03:49
Speaker 2: Throw a little sugar in it.

00:03:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, we tried that little sugar. There was also some other mix. I actually stopped by, like our you know, local uh, you know, nursery, and we're like, hey, you know, what else can we do besides like sugar?

00:04:01
Speaker 4: We've heard that.

00:04:02
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, there's these little packets you can buy. It helped a little bit.

00:04:06
Speaker 4: Not much.

00:04:06
Speaker 2: What about a fake tree, Brady.

00:04:09
Speaker 3: Don't even Yeah, that's don't even you. Watch your mouth, Patti sweet, Yeah, watch your mouth.

00:04:17
Speaker 2: That'll be yeah. By the way, everybody, the.

00:04:18
Speaker 4: Main tree will always be the main tree with you, and it's going to be real. It's gonna be made of wood.

00:04:23
Speaker 3: It might even come with who knows, you know, maybe some extra you know, friends involved.

00:04:28
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:04:28
Speaker 4: I need to don't you even question that.

00:04:30
Speaker 2: I need I need to know that we're tiptoeing towards a potential fire hazard with my tree, not some plastic fake tree that you can just take apart and put together. And just it's it's got to be the real deal. Plus it's fun to go pick out a different one, just like it's fun to pick out a different coach. Apparently in the world of college football because uh, guess what, and I don't know if you'd heard this, but Michigan as looking for ahead. Apparently there was some issue with the guy that was there before, like some stuff that was going on. I have no idea, you know, big fan of you know, door Dash apparently, but Utah former Utah coach Kyle Whittingham, according to Dan Wetzel and Pete Thammil, has emerged as the focus of Michigan's coaching search. Sources tell the Guys. Whittingham's candidacy is expected to be shared with top Michigan officials on Friday, sources said, and a deal could come together in the near future if they approve. And Kyle Whittingham was with Utah for what twenty one years, did a really fine job there. I know that you have been there cover that team several times throughout the course of Big Noon kickoff. And so if you're Michigan and you look at this, like when Kyle Whittingham stepped down, he kind of joked and said, you know, I'm entering the portal, meaning I'm not retiring. I'm just it's time to step away and go somewhere else and to be able to land this gig. If it comes together, it feels like, you know, this is a pretty decent higher all things considered, this stage of the game from Michigan.

00:06:02
Speaker 4: Without a doubt.

00:06:03
Speaker 3: I mean, and this is kind of it didn't venture necessarily on the Penn State territory where a drug on that long and then you ended up with a candidate that I think can be a really good coach for you.

00:06:12
Speaker 4: This happened a little bit sooner.

00:06:14
Speaker 3: I think there were there was an initial thought of some candidates where it was Kenny Dillingham, whose name was thrown out there, or some of the others that were rumored.

00:06:22
Speaker 4: I don't know how far.

00:06:23
Speaker 3: Along they ever got in the process with any of those, probably because of.

00:06:27
Speaker 4: What they were dealing with.

00:06:28
Speaker 3: In regards to Sharon Moore, I mean, in one instance, you're doing an investigation. You're trying to figure out, you know, how long this went on, you know, with your head coach and all the details that came along with it. And I know they did prior investigations, you know, during the season, and I told you we got wind of that back when we were there for Michigan vs.

00:06:46
Speaker 4: Wisconsin. You know, I'd been told that he was being investigated at that point in time.

00:06:50
Speaker 3: And you're never sure what to make of something like that because you don't have the facts or details. But the source was a good source, and you kind of sit on it and just wonder, Okay, where's this going to go.

00:07:00
Speaker 4: And at the end of the season.

00:07:02
Speaker 3: I said, we said this and talked about this, if they beat Ohiose State and they're in the playoff, Like, is this firing happening.

00:07:10
Speaker 4: Based on what's being alleged?

00:07:12
Speaker 3: You'd hope it still would have happened, But to your point, like, probably not. And that's the crazy thing about sports and college football in general. But I think they've landed with what is potentially the best possible candidate for their scenario. And that's one in which if you look at the timing of the college football calendar, we have very quickly approaching the transfer portal and once and the new rule is now, once the new permanent head coach is hired.

00:07:43
Speaker 4: There's usually a fifteen day period.

00:07:46
Speaker 3: Where that coach can evaluate the roster, meet with a number of players, and there's a five day period where that roster opens up and any kid on the roster can transfer. And the reason why the timing of all this is important is because you like for that five day window to open.

00:08:00
Speaker 4: Up within the transfer portal window.

00:08:04
Speaker 3: If that five day window opens up after it in January, once that window closes, everyone's taken your players and you can't replenish what.

00:08:13
Speaker 4: You're missing out on.

00:08:15
Speaker 3: So the timing of this higre is some important I think where Kyle Whittingham's in his career, being sixty six years old, coach had been the model of consistency, if you will, at Utah.

00:08:25
Speaker 4: That's what Michigan's trying to bring.

00:08:27
Speaker 3: They're trying to move on from an area that Yeah, I won a national championship, but I had a lot of baggages that came along with it, and they're trying to get back to that. And I don't know how long he's going to coach. I mean, anyone who's been around Kyle Whittingham has seen him. I mean that dude is a model of health. Like he is, he's a stud. I mean, he still gets after working out. You can tell he's in great shape, does not look his age, doesn't act his age, still very much into it. I mean, I think he would have stepped down and let Morgan Scalley take over Utah last year had they had a better season than being five and seven. But it was announced I don't know, maybe a few years ago now that Morgan scout I was the coach in waiting, and it kind of felt like, all right, like let's move on with this. As tough as that is, to admit. For a coach who's won what one hundred and seventy seven games at Utah, there's still an element of, like, we we need to move on, let Morgan take over, and if you want to coach somewhere, so be it. You've been tremendous for us. But this, to me would be a huge hire because I think it sets the foundation for what Michigan football should hope to be. A tough, defensive, physical team and that's what won the national championship a couple of years ago. So they're kind of getting back to that, but just with a different face. Who's going to be doing it now? If indeed they are able to come to agree with Kyle Whittingham.

00:09:41
Speaker 2: You obviously know the Michigan Ohio state rivalry, and just in our time working together, I've just sort of realized that a move by either school needs to be looked at in a sense of where does it land with that rivalry, because that's everything. How does he all of a sudden fit in and ingrain himself into that rivalry because he seems like he's also got a little bit of red ass to him. Oh yeah, and this is just what we need, Like this is just a sprinkle of that little hot sauce on what already is the greatest rivalry in sports.

00:10:14
Speaker 4: I think Cal Whittingham is closer to Jim Trestle than even though he coached.

00:10:20
Speaker 3: Under Urban Meyer. But I think there's some elements of him and Urban being similar. But as far as the timing of all this, it reminds me more kind of of of Jim Tressell kind of taking over and the seriousness and the manner of which how he conducted himself and how he was and so I kind of go back to that era where you're coming out of John Cooper Ara Ohio State didn't have much success versus Michigan. That was like the first thing that Jim Trestle wanted to get back at.

00:10:45
Speaker 2: Now.

00:10:45
Speaker 3: I know Michigan has had success, you know, in the years prior to this year, but it also feels like the program was kind of hanging on since Jim Harbaugh left. I mean two years ago that was nowhere close to a team that just won a national championship. And I understand the roster decimated, but still it wasn't to the level that you thought they'd be at.

00:11:04
Speaker 4: And even this past.

00:11:05
Speaker 3: Season, I think in many of those games, and we were there for their game versus Northwestern Rigley.

00:11:09
Speaker 4: They had no business winning that game.

00:11:11
Speaker 3: And there's a number of games that were like that this season for them, where the record probably looked better than.

00:11:15
Speaker 4: They actually were.

00:11:17
Speaker 3: And as odd as that is to admit and say, it's just you kind of felt like, hey, maybe Schroilmore's not the guy. Regardless of all the stuff that happened off the field, there's no development under Bryce Underwood. There's no offensive creativity. I mean, Chip Lindsay moved on, but I didn't even wait to see how this whole thing would figure itself out, which may have been a godsend honestly to Michigan. I mean, at no point of this season that I feel like they ever had a great offensive plan. So not only does their quarterback Bryce Underwood, who's a budding star in my opinion, get a new lease on life and opportunity, hopefully he gets an offense an offensive system that's built around his skill set to help him, you know, improve and elevate. But I do think in regards to the rivalry, like Kyle Whittingham's prepared for this. Anyone who's ever been out for the Utah BYU robbery, and we went this past year. I'm not trying to put it on the scale of Ohio State Michigan as far as you know those two states and the national significance of what that game usually has meant. But to the state of Utah, it is as nasty as it gets. I mean, it is as big of a rivalry as you will find, you know, next to you, i'd say below. When you want to start comparing like the Oklahoma Oklahoma states or whoever else you want to throw in the conversation, you know, Utah BYU, notre MSc. We'll talk about that later on today's show. But when you start throwing these other the robberies, even the Iron Bowl, like iron bowls as an unbelievable rivalry too, the egg Bowl, et cetera. Like, there's as much nastiness to the BYU Utah robbery than any any of the other ones that are out there. And anyone who's been in Utah is probably not in their head and a green right now, because if they've been a part.

00:12:54
Speaker 4: Of it, you've seen it. It is nuts.

00:12:55
Speaker 3: It is wild, and there's like a deepe I don't say hatred, but I guess that's lacking from lack of a better term, I use hatred towards one another.

00:13:04
Speaker 2: The signage in the background is interesting. When you guys are on set as well too, you can tell, uh tell who's a Utah fan, who's b yu U with somebody well.

00:13:11
Speaker 3: And the tough thing for the for the BYU fans, it must really much of a response. We were right there in the crowd and some of these guys are saying some heinous things with these kids, and they're like, we're going.

00:13:22
Speaker 4: To rise above this. We're not going to respond to these Utah fans.

00:13:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of like, you know, what are you supposed to do, Like there's no you know that you can't you can't really act out like they can get to a place that you just can't really get to. And that's unfortunate, you know, for that rivalry.

00:13:37
Speaker 4: But so I do think Cale Whittingham will be prepared for it.

00:13:40
Speaker 3: He'll understand the mission, and I think if this hire happens, you know, he'll he'll be able to build some up again who can take over and he can pass this down to I think in a few years and mission will will look back and be like that.

00:13:54
Speaker 4: He was like the savior to our program at that time.

00:13:58
Speaker 3: I really do predict that happening for Michigan because Kyle Wohitotingham's just that that darn good of a coach.

00:14:04
Speaker 2: I also think, and we obviously doing the show with LeVar Arrington and you and I would you know, we take you know, potentially some liberties with you know, the Penn State coaching search and trying to hey, you know what about now they got somebody to what about you know, with all the other rumors and reports that were out there of candidates that were But if you look at Michigan, if this does go through and they land Kyle Whittingham, and then you look at Penn State and after all of that, I think it was what close to two months I think it was fifty eight days before they named another head coach. For them to be able to land a Matt Campbell and for Michigan to land a Kyle Whittingham, that's not a bad place to fall into, considering all the crap that's been going on surrounding both programs, like both you could do a lot worse thoan both those guys.

00:14:51
Speaker 3: It's a home run and I think when you look at from this standpoint too, it's a huge get for the Big Ten. And I remember when you like go back through the years when you know Irvin Meyer was there and some of the other code when Jim Harbaugh first got to Michigan, I believe it was opening game, by the way, ironically enough was versus Utah. But the point is, like, you've got coaches who I think Matt Campbell has won the most games of any head coach in Iowa state history. You know, Kyle Whittingham obviously did that at Utah. But you're taking two of the best coaches in college football, but both from the Big Twelve and that conference is kind of being pillage right now with with that talent moving up to the Big Ten. So it's it's tough on the Big Twelve for that reason. You know, you wonder how Iowa stables will handle that and we'll be able to you know, survive, like what that next era looks like. I think forth Morgan Scalley, the foundation of the program's already built. It's about kind of maintaining that and then taking it up a notch there. Obviously, we're a ten win team this season, but I think they've got higher aspirations of getting into the playoff and being a part of winning a national championship, and we'll see if he can do that. But for the Big ten, it's a huge Geit again, both coaches who understand how to build programs, understand how to have success, and it might not happen right away, but I think they will get there.

00:16:10
Speaker 2: So if that deal does get finalized, again, the reports are out according to ESPN that Kyle Whittingham is the focus of Michigan's head coaching search. If that gets the deal gets done. If we get in the finalizing of the deal before the end of the show, we'll update you on that. Throughout. We're also going to have a conversation with the Great Petros Papadacus. He's going to be joining you an hour two of the program. We're going to do something later on this hour called in case you missed it. We've also got some picks for Week six, a week seventeen rather in the NFL. All of that is yours here on this three hour extravaganza. It's Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys here on The Dan Patrick Show. And by the way, brought to you by Rapid Radios, the official walkie talkie of The Dan Patrick Show is a push to talk night nationwide LTE coverage service with no subscriptions required. Business owners, stay connected with your employees anywhere. Visit rapid radios dot com now for up to sixty percent off and free shipping. All right, it's coming up next year. On the show. There are good ideas, there are good plans in the NFL, and then there's this. We'll explain what that is right here on FSR. But let's talk about our friends of Panini America, the official trading card and NFT partner of The Dan Patrick Show. Panini brings the premier collecting experience with the most coveted cards across the NFL, WNBA, College, NASCAR, and more. With the NFL Playoff picture getting Wild, you can hunt for top rookies and breakout stars like Teed McMillan of the Carolina Panthers, potentially the offensive rookie of the Year, along with the game's biggest names and legends on the award winning Panini Direct app. Looking for a gift anytime, The Panini Direct app is the best place to grab gifts for collectors of any age, delivered straight from Panini. Panini is also dominating NIL collectibles, showcasing top college names like Juliansayan and Arch Manning, and headliners like last year's first overall WNBA pick Pagebeckers and MVP Asia Wilson. If you are into digital collectibles, check out Panini's NFT platform at NFT dot Paniniamerica dot net, where record breaking sales continue every month and new auctions closed daily. Lock in live moments with Panini instant cards made within minutes of iconic plays. Visit Paniniamerica dot net or download the Panini Direct app. Panini America the official trading card and NFT partner of the Danpatrick Show.

00:18:47
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Pauli Fools Go ahead with Tony Foodsco. Yeah.

00:19:01
Speaker 5: As everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning Polly and Tony Foodsco Show. Yeah, But instead of us telling you how great we are, here's how Dan Patrick described us when he came on our.

00:19:10
Speaker 2: Show, Quick, Knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.

00:19:14
Speaker 1: What do you do?

00:19:15
Speaker 2: We were interrupting our promo.

00:19:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wasn't talking about you.

00:19:19
Speaker 4: You took those clips totally out of context.

00:19:21
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Well after this promo, I'm gonna take you out and beat you.

00:19:25
Speaker 2: Let me put this into context. Shut up. Yeah.

00:19:28
Speaker 5: Anyway, just listening to the Paully and Tony Fusco Show on Ieartradio.

00:19:32
Speaker 4: Apple podcasts.

00:19:33
Speaker 2: Ohereba, you get your podcasts.

00:19:34
Speaker 6: Yee.

00:19:36
Speaker 2: It's a Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. We're going to be doing something about twenty minutes from now. It's called in case you missed it and in case you missed this. Uh, there's a coach in the world of sports. I mean, I don't know if he's threatening to leave but not thrilled with his current product. We will get into that for you right here on Fox Sports Radio. But right now it is time and for the tire rack play of the day. All right, Brosmer takes.

00:20:05
Speaker 1: It's a trick play and here comes Jordan Edison Fix team into the party.

00:20:10
Speaker 5: To the party, down to the five close to the en Zone.

00:20:20
Speaker 2: There it is Vikings Radio Network on the call. That's your tire rack play the day. For over forty years, ty Rack's been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive. Shipped fast and freeback by free Road has a protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation ti rack dot com. The way tire buying should be pritty. Have you heard that adage, if you want to make God laugh, tell them your plan.

00:20:42
Speaker 4: You hear that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think told me that yesterday. Yeah.

00:20:46
Speaker 2: God was laughing his ass off yesterday watching those games, because man, that's some bad football teams we got on display on Christmas, and I know that they probably thought, hey, man like Chiefs Broncos with Patrick Mahomes and bow Nicks and sort of reigniting that rivalry, that'll be a good idea. The Lions and the Vikings would be a good idea. I mean, Cowboys commanders with Jaden Daniels. That was that was rough. Man like us some really really bad teams in the NFL. I don't know if it's more so than ever, but that was that was a rough watch yesterday.

00:21:25
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go that far. But that's the risk you run if you're in Netflix and you're paying a bunch of money for these games and you end up. Look, there are three divisional games. I think when we make the schedule before the season, you're thinking, like, these could all be very influential, even if a team like Washington's out, had Dallas had still been in the hunt, or for at least for the Vikings Lions. I mean, obviously this pretty much knocked out the Lions from being in playoff contention. So there's those elements of it that I do think it made it somewhat enticing or at least interesting and maybe even worth the price of what Netflix is paying for these games and the production that goes along with it. I kind of just came to the conclusion, not even just watching the games, but you know, thinking about what Christmas used to be like, and I understand that, you know, the NBA now has kind of made this their holiday. Now, the NFL's kind of you know, trump them, and I'm sure the ratings will show as much.

00:22:19
Speaker 4: But can we just take a day off.

00:22:22
Speaker 3: I know Mark Cuban said this years ago about the pigs can get too fat in the NFL.

00:22:27
Speaker 4: Eventually there'll be a bubble, it will burst. I just I don't know, man, Like, can't we.

00:22:32
Speaker 3: Just have Can we just have Christmas and not have to if you force these games to be played on Christmas Day? I mean, I'm not saying that it factored into like how I felt about our Christmas or a day at all, but I'm sure there's some Washington Commanders fans, or Detroit Lions fans or you know, whoever you want to point to that's probably sitting there thinking themselves like, yeah, what have What if we could have taken that l maybe on the twenty sixth, the twenty seven to twenty eight, you know, it would have been nice to not have to throw that into my my Christmas, you know as well?

00:23:04
Speaker 4: Well, I feel Timmy out there.

00:23:07
Speaker 2: Well, a'man around. Saint Brown went on a rant on his podcast talking about why do we have to play on Thanksgiving and Christmas? He's like, I don't even I don't even have kids, and I'm pissed off about it because I can't even imagine my kids, Like it's just yeah, it's I mean, I'm kind of with you, man, like I know that, you know, I mean and maybe people are just maybe people like it because they can avoid their family, But it just it does feel like I'm just saying like there's there's also that element to it. Look, I mean, you know, it's like faking a phone call. Somebody comes up to you and you just grab what'sever on the table and say, yeah, I'm still here. It's just I get it. You just you want to avoid the conversations, you want to avoid the social life with your family. I get all that, but that was just I mean, and do we need three Like do we have to have three games like one in the morning. It's just like it feels like it's just it's getting more and more and more. And once the NFL realized in Covid, I'll wait a second, we could just throw this on anywhere and people watch. Then it was off and running from there.

00:24:07
Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to look at the same way because COVID, I think they'd learned that even during the week, you can put on a primetime game almost any day of the week and people would watch.

00:24:15
Speaker 4: But this is different. It's a holiday. I mean, I just it hits a little bit different.

00:24:19
Speaker 3: But I don't want to point out one thing you just said, you just tried to call the Cowboys commander's game in the morning. No one cares about Pacific time. Okay, let's just get that straight. Don't don't even start. I just heard you say it.

00:24:32
Speaker 4: You go, so you know you Dallas washed in the morning. Yeah, don't start that.

00:24:36
Speaker 2: Hey, that little sliver you know, when you're looking at the map on the on the left side, that little sliver there, that's Pacific time we count out here, all right, And and you know our friends in Hawaii were a couple hours behind. That's really early for them, so they had to wake up even earlier to that garbage.

00:24:52
Speaker 3: That was the on that note, because I know you're going to gloat about Hawaii winning their bowl game beach right, Breda, No, okay, Brad, I feel like cal let their foot off the gas. It felt like after the first half they're like, all right, we proved our point.

00:25:04
Speaker 4: We're gonna go ahead and just like let this thing, you know, figure itself out.

00:25:08
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if we really want to peel behind the curtain ear and just all right, so let's go and peel this back. Mind in my own business, Christmas Eve, getting ready for the holiday. One of Brady's best friends, who we will not give his real name on the air, but his moniker is the meat Wagon just randomly sends a text Merry Christmas, Hawaii stinks okay, and then clearly, I mean clearly obviously had money on the game, like I would venture to guess, he probably had money on the game. So I don't even know if he turned out to be happy at the result or if he was bragging because he had Cal in that game. But unfortunately, if he had Cal, they came out on the short end because Timmy Chang and those nine win Hawaii Rainbow Warriors got it done at the Hawaii Ball. You know, So I feel like that's a that's that's a good start to Bowl season.

00:26:04
Speaker 4: Was that neutral side game that Hawaii.

00:26:05
Speaker 2: Bull Yeah, it's yeah, just that's that's just the way it works, Like when the Rams were playing in the Super Bowl so far, you know, it's just a home game the Bucks and at Raymond James, you know, during the COVID Super Bowl against the Chiefs. But I mean, look, I'll give I'll say this about Amazon Prime. Uh, they they were really really pushing the Travis Kelcey final game at Arrowhead as a chief last night. They were I mean, they were finding anything they could to make this entertaining and uh and we're really trying to send him off, letting everybody know, like, hey, he hasn't made it official yet, but it's like, dude, he's gone. Like everything, the way it was presented, the way he was talking, sort of his you know all, like the way he was saying, by that's a wrap. Travis Kelsey's gone. He's played his final game at Arrowhead Stadium. He's going to go off and make a gazillion dollars and a gazillion more dollars and he's going to go into the Hall of Fame in five years. Like that's a rap. I don't think there's any shot he comes back.

00:27:08
Speaker 3: I don't think so either. I mean, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. I do wonder if he didn't have the podcast with his brother, what do he hanging up? I mean, I think it's hard for a lot of players to call it quits. Maybe this season, and I would think this season more than any, would be hard to call it quits because you didn't get close to achieving which you've been so accustomed to. I mean, he's won three Super Bowls. You know, he's been such a you know, incredible piece of this team and the run that the Chiefs have been on. I mean some would say next to Ma Holmes, like the other foundational piece if you're just talking about players, and I just I always wonder for a guy like him, who's an ultimate competitor. He's fought through, playing through injuries, different types of things, if he didn't have something they're waiting for him that's not only lucrative, but I think it's fun and something to do with his brother. Would would he have called it quits this season or would he try to run it back again? And would he exhaust all efforts? I mean, only he truly knows. I guess that answer. But not as many players can transition the way he has, you know, into something that's going to easily be able to make them, you know, money and allow him to still be very much in the limelight and as maybe even as successful he's been as.

00:28:24
Speaker 4: A football player.

00:28:26
Speaker 2: Kirk Curbstreet was making the point on the broadcast, saying, you know, I kind of lean towards him coming back because you know, I can't imagine he wants to go out that way with Patrick Mahomes on the sideline, especially if Patrick's going to work his way to come back, and it's like, all right, but that's what he did this past year, Like they didn't want to go out that way, and how it happened in the super Bowl, So what is he going to do? Just like keep going until the year ends perfectly and this is it and he's had had a tremendous career and yeah, he's got all these other opportunities off the field. I mean, you've even said it yourself. You don't even know if you would have gotten into football, if you would have met me sooner so we could do this radio show together. Like didn't you say that once? Almost possibly never said that, not once in my life. In fact, that was never a part of the conversation. So I mean, I will say this, I will admit this.

00:29:16
Speaker 3: You know, I had a back surgery in my seventh year that had some complications from you know, the injury and everything else, and.

00:29:23
Speaker 4: I was I was rehabbing.

00:29:24
Speaker 3: I kind of came to the conclusion that I'm probably never gonna feel and be you know what I once was at one point in my life, And it got to the point where I had this opportunity presented by Fox to go call games and to do studio work, and eventually this knucklehead named Jonas Knox came along too, and I really had to reevaluate after that first season.

00:29:46
Speaker 4: Where I was, I was out and.

00:29:49
Speaker 3: I was calling NFL games, and I was I was looking at what I was being presented as a career, and I thought this was never by design, you know.

00:29:56
Speaker 4: I think that's transparently that the toughest thing from me.

00:30:00
Speaker 3: Most athletes, I think, for all of us out there, by the way, it's like most people prepare for best and worst, Like who prepares for like the middle scenario in a seriousness, Like you're like, oh, a best case cinerario worst case scenario. Like That's how I looked at it. Like I went to Notre Dame thinking I'm gonna do Paul. I'm gonna study Poli sci and finance. And if I don't it doesn't work out for football, I will eventually get into, you know, something in the you know, private sector.

00:30:24
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll go back to you know, law schoolerget my JD NBA and be something else in the business world.

00:30:29
Speaker 3: And if it does work out, like I'm gonna play for a Butajullian years be a Hall of Famer.

00:30:32
Speaker 4: I have to worry about, like, no one plans for.

00:30:34
Speaker 2: The in between, And here you are, day after Christmas slapping it up with me.

00:30:38
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, balls are equal. Now it feels like it's an incredible disappointment.

00:30:45
Speaker 2: Let me tell you it is all is no doubt, all that time you spent studying, all the hours the second.

00:30:51
Speaker 4: Training work for football. Now I end up here the same spot with.

00:30:54
Speaker 2: Jonas Knots, only to end up doing crank jokes ten years in a row. Yeah, that's that's all we got. Go hard guys.

00:31:01
Speaker 3: The guy who was working for Chuck E Cheeses I had have the same exact spot.

00:31:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in the balls at least a dozen times my six year old. It's just yeah, it's an unfortunate Uh, it's really unfortunate that they.

00:31:16
Speaker 3: The point is, though, is that I probably could have kept trying to exhaust that opportunity. And I look at like today's conup Philip Rivers to come up all these other guys, We're like, well, I mean at this point, like you can go and be serviceable.

00:31:30
Speaker 4: I mean, especially the way the league's changed the course of the last ten years.

00:31:33
Speaker 3: I mean, the way you're not even allowed to hit the guys anymore, and the inability for you know, quarterbacks even read who are redefenses who are coming in the NFL. It's like, well, you know, if it was ten years later, I probably would have ended up here, probably would have kept trying to exhaust those efforts of playing. But the truth is there was something there for me, and it made that transition a little bit easier, so much so that when I kind of dove head in first, I really never sat back and thought about how much I missed playing until you you would have those opportunities where you're like down on the field talking to players, talking to coaches and guys that are still doing it, and even today reaching out talking to guys who are still doing it, like I at the Big Ten Championship game. You know, Saul, I granted this is on the college level, but still, you know, saw one of my buddies that I played college with and just the excitement he had after winning the Big Ten Championship knocking off Ohio State.

00:32:22
Speaker 4: You're like, man, like, you know.

00:32:24
Speaker 3: Even if I got into coaching like that would have been that that kind of window of time to make that decision and look how much fun they're having. So I think that's what's there though for Travis Kelcey, and that's what makes this year feel a lot different.

00:32:35
Speaker 4: I know we kind of had it last.

00:32:37
Speaker 3: Year too as they're building up, but with the way everything's gone this year for Kansas City and really for him too, and physically being another year older, it just feels.

00:32:45
Speaker 4: Like it's time.

00:32:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I do wonder more so about Andy Reid, like what sort of his thought process is, because he's also me and him and Travis Kelsey kind of hinted around it at potentially walking away. I don't think Andy Reid ultimately does, but I mean that's another guy that you look around and feels like he's on, you know, borrowed time.

00:33:05
Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting though, you're saying this about Andy Reid, who's what's sixty seven years old? I think go turn sixty eight in March of twenty twenty six. I mean Kyle Woody game sixty six. Yeah, and he's he's stepping down with than taking potentially another job at the college level.

00:33:22
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a jacked defect. He's just jacked, So I just assume, oh, he's got like another twenty years to go, Like, yeah, maybe maybe that's what it is.

00:33:29
Speaker 3: He's just I think if you're Andy reid Man, you run this thing with Patrick Mahomes to the wheels fall off. And then the other thing about Kelsey that makes the decision maybe a little bit easier all the way around is he's unrestricted free agent. Yeah, they would they would have to, you know, figure out some way of fitting them in under the cab what that number looks like? You know, are they going to offer him the type of like money that he wants to come back for at this point time in his career. I mean, if you are Kansas City, you do have to start thinking about life after him, which they've already thought about, but they have to start preparing for how they're going to rebuild this roster and the financial components a piece of it for both sides, Travis Kelcey and.

00:34:04
Speaker 4: For the team.

00:34:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, well listen, whatever he decides been a hell of a run. And this run for us continues here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Brady Quinn Jonas Knox in for Dan Patrick and the guys here on FSR and up next, there's a coach in the world of sports not happy about things, and I don't know if he's trying to find a way out but not thrilled and aired his own team out yesterday regarding it. We'll get into that for you right here on FSR.

00:34:31
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

00:34:45
Speaker 2: It's a Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Brady Quinn, I'm Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. Coming up top of next hour about fifteen minutes from now. Somebody's ruined one of the great traditions in all of sports, absolutely disgusting. Get into that for you right here on f s R. But right now it's time for something we do on our show, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with myself, Brady Quinn and LeVar Arrington. It's another edition of In Case You missed It, and it starts now.

00:35:14
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to bring you in case you missed it.

00:35:25
Speaker 2: And for that we turned it over to our executive producer, the one and only Patrick Sweek Patty speaks, what.

00:35:34
Speaker 4: Up, Brady? What up? What's up? Guys?

00:35:41
Speaker 2: What if that's it's supposed to be an air.

00:35:46
Speaker 4: Horns?

00:35:48
Speaker 6: That's my version of an air Horn's not great, But you know.

00:35:50
Speaker 4: What, thank you. Let's go well.

00:35:57
Speaker 6: In case you missed it, I missed you, guys. It was a lovely chriss. But you know what, we're back in business. Everybody, we're here.

00:36:03
Speaker 2: Hey, By the way, can I just say this, Yes, Patrick's mom, how like how long does she like h take to like she just bakes all day, like during the holidays.

00:36:14
Speaker 6: In particular, it was three days Friday, she ended Sunday afternoon.

00:36:19
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, Like, oh no, she was just home homebrewed. Man, you got to start selling, like to like start selling tins of goodies. I'm telling like, she put together stuff. And my wife was like, who made these? And I was about to lie and say I did, but she would have seen right through because I can't. And I just said, yeah, Patrick, our producer, he like his mom bakes, And she said this is unbelievable. I was like, yeah, everything's good creative, like you're missing an opportunity there to make a little cash point.

00:36:52
Speaker 6: That out shout out to my mom's I know you listening a round now, Just mamma, you good?

00:36:57
Speaker 4: You good MoMA?

00:36:57
Speaker 1: What mama?

00:36:58
Speaker 4: Sweet mama.

00:37:00
Speaker 6: Well, in case you missed it, guys, speaking of Ellen again, a little fire here. JJ Reddick, a coach of the Lakers after their recent loss yesterday, was oh so not very happy at his team. In fact, I actually have a sound to play coming up here. Here's what a coach, Reddick had to say.

00:37:19
Speaker 7: Been a good basketball team, and we haven't. We're a terrible basketball team. And tonight we were a terrible basketball team. And that started legitimately right away. We don't care enough to do the things that are necessary. We don't care enough to be a professional. It's you know, we had it. It can change like that. We don't have it right now. What I said the other night, it's a matter of making the choice, and too often we have guys that don't want to make that choice. And it's pretty consistent who those guys are. And so Saturday practice I told the guys it's going to be uncomfortable. The meeting is going to be uncomfortable. I'm not doing another fifty three games like.

00:37:55
Speaker 4: This scathing from coach rede here.

00:38:00
Speaker 2: Good for him? Also, why'd you take the gig?

00:38:03
Speaker 1: Dudes?

00:38:04
Speaker 2: Like he could? Like he was great in immedia, He was a great as a broadcaster, he had his podcast, he had all those other opportunities, and he chose to be miserable as the coach of the Lakers.

00:38:15
Speaker 3: It's one of those jobs though, because that if you get offered it, can you turn it down?

00:38:21
Speaker 2: If you've got options? Yeah, Like, I I don't know. I just think he if he was awful, like if it just wasn't working and you know, as a broadcaster he was flaming out, and then there is an opportunity to go, you know, be a head coach somewhere. Oh yeah, that would make sense. But he was great at that and he just seems like he's miserable a lot of the times as a coach of the leaguers. I mean, but at least Luca got skinny this year, so there is that.

00:38:49
Speaker 3: Well, I guess I'll ask this, did he confuse the relationship that he had with Lebron and maybe even like when he was stepping into this role, who would ultimately be a control of the roster and the decisions, because I don't know, it feels like ever since that he's stepped into this role, the relationship with with Lebron has been somewhat for actured, at least not what it used to be. And then it feels like he's just a figurehead more than anything else.

00:39:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he wants you know, he's looking for better defensive effort and it's like, like, but that's not Luca's game, Like it never has been, Like, that's not Lebron's game anymore. Like if you watch Lebron, like he's out there just kinda kind of good and look, he's been in the league one hundred and five years, Like I get it. But it's like he's looking for better defensive efforts and that's not their game. And so I don't know how why anybody should be surprised by this, but you know, it's the Lakers, and I feel like we hit our quota in covering the Lakers here, you know, to finish up the calendar year. So that's that's always important. What else we got, Patty?

00:39:53
Speaker 6: All Right, So Christmas gift for the Steelers on the eve of Christmas.

00:39:58
Speaker 4: What was that you guys?

00:39:59
Speaker 6: Ask?

00:40:00
Speaker 4: Well, TJ.

00:40:01
Speaker 6: Watt is back, Hey, he was practicing. Hey after the injury, let's go it at, can we get.

00:40:08
Speaker 4: Some details in the lung injury? How does that happen?

00:40:10
Speaker 1: You know?

00:40:10
Speaker 2: Nothing? Like, hey, just very your run of the mill holiday SHIV by a member of the training staff right before you get ready for Christmas. You know, just nothing, I'm telling you, man, Nothing about that entire story has made sense from the get go, even the explanation afterwards, Like you're trying to explain dry needling and how nearly impossible that is, and you've got like some doctors that are saying, oh no, no, it's possible, could happen, and doctor David Chow's on social media being like, you'd have to work really hard to collapse somebody's lung using those those little needles, like they're just really fine, like even like thinner than sewing needles, and somehow has lung got collapsed. Mike Tomlin doesn't have any answers, doesn't know what it's like. It feels like we have not heard the end of this, and there's gonna be some sort of a conversation. I don't know if there's a legal impact to it all. But none of it has made sense, this whole thing.

00:41:06
Speaker 4: I mean, there'll definitely be a workman's calm claim at the minimum.

00:41:09
Speaker 3: But I mean I've had dry needling done before, and I've had like issues with ribs, cartilage and the rib and all that, and I've had injections right like usually they did numb it up before games to get me a shot a novacane, so.

00:41:21
Speaker 4: Locally you couldn't feel anything. And it's odd to me that.

00:41:25
Speaker 3: Again, I understand mistakes happen, but through dry needling, I just it doesn't.

00:41:31
Speaker 4: I don't even know them. Again, I'm not any expert in this.

00:41:33
Speaker 3: I've never heard of a player getting dry needling in that area.

00:41:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like what is the like, what's the Is it just to relieve pressure? Like the dry needling is to do what?

00:41:47
Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't know if we have enough time to go through that. But I mean there's some people who talk about like the meridian system, like your body's like electrical kind of charge and energy. There's people who talk from it from like an acupuncture standpoint like that way. There's other people who feel like it helps, you know, bring like recovery cells and from like a cellular standpoint.

00:42:08
Speaker 4: Locally to that area. I don't think that's that's a warm hoole you want to jump down.

00:42:12
Speaker 2: But but collapsing of the lung is not part of the is not part of the conversation when it comes to dry needly like they just it just feels it feels odd. What else we got, Patty.

00:42:24
Speaker 6: Oh with that said, uh, we're still gonna stay with the NFL. So Dak Prescott and the Cowboys played yesterday and Christmas. Dak Prescott says he's still gonna play for the final game. And he actually said why he's gonna play with no playoffs pride?

00:42:40
Speaker 4: He says he's never been.

00:42:41
Speaker 6: He's never been you know, missing the playoffs or you know, under five hundred and all that stuff.

00:42:46
Speaker 2: He says, this is the first for him.

00:42:47
Speaker 4: He's just gonna play for pride.

00:42:49
Speaker 2: I I love how like this is being.

00:42:54
Speaker 4: We act like he's not being paid.

00:42:58
Speaker 3: There's also that you can't just like sit out where you're being paid fifty million a year.

00:43:03
Speaker 2: Hey what a guy? Yeah, I got understand, Like, but what is he supposed to not play?

00:43:09
Speaker 6: Like?

00:43:10
Speaker 2: No, listen, you know what, let them have it, you know, we're out of it, Like there's nothing, Like, what does he what does he get? Are they trying to keep him healthy for a game next week? Like no, of course he's gonna play. I don't understand why this is even a topic of conversation, but I think the NBA has kind of soiled it for everybody to where now when players do participate in games, you're like, man, what a teammate? What a player?