2026 NCAA Men's Volleyball Championship Preview
In this episode of Volley Talk, we break down the upcoming NCAA Men's Volleyball Championship. With 12 teams participating for the first time and 4 locations for the Regional matchups, this is going to be a really exciting tournament!
UCLA, Hawaii, Long Beach State, and Ball State earned the 1-seeds so they get a first round bye and the luxury of hosting the Regionals matches. Will there be any upsets or will the 1-seeds all make it to the Final Four in LA?
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Hi, volleyball fans, and welcome back to Volley Talk, the podcast created for volleyball lovers who want to dig deep into what is going on in NCAA and international volleyball. I'm your host, Sarah Pavin. I'm an Olympian, beach volleyball world champion, former Nebraska Cornhusker, and longtime pro, both indoor and on the beach. And I'm Adam Schultz, former indoor player, international volleyball coach, and the show's resident stat guy. Winter slash spring season is winding down. We have the Italian Women's League finish. NCAA Men's finishing. Love, obviously, finished last week. Turkish Women finished last week. We had the Japanese League finish this week. Our highlights and happenings are going to be a little sparse. But it's also a very exciting time because we're heading into NCAA Men's Championship weekends coming up. and MLB playoff situation. So there is still a little bit happening before we switch gears and focus on the international side of things. So we are really excited to do a deep dive into everything NCAA men's championship. So let's get started. Okay, last couple weeks. Adam, was your volley fantasy a highlight or a happening this week? A happening. Unless there's something lower than happening. How many points did you get? I think I was at 313 maybe. Wasn't a great week. Yeah, I had like 326. It was a bad week. I was like 130 something for the week. Yeah, not great. I'm 74th overall. So that didn't do too much damage for me. But my weekly stats, watch out. You know what my strategy was this past week? No. I'll tell you. Pick the players on the teams who are still fighting for a playoff spot. Because I was like, you know, the ones who are like locks, they might not play their starters. So I was like, I don't want to take that risk. So let me play the teams who are still fighting. Didn't work out so great. Because Lydia Martin scored so many points, I should have just picked her. But anyway, so I'm a little bit upset about that if you can't tell. Heavy hitter is pulling away. I'm not sure that they're going to be caught at this point. I don't think so either. We've got one more week. So everybody, let's put our brain power together to really spice things up and try to make this go down to the wire, okay, for our final week. Otherwise, heavy hitter is going to be the grand champion. My advice, heavy hitter, don't pucker. And everybody else, don't forget to submit your rosters, okay? It's the last week, so submit those rosters. Yeah, you can kind of check out what's been happening and see what is going on in the Volley Talk League at playvolley .com slash volleytalk. So playvolley .com slash volleytalk. I'm sad that it's coming to an end, but as we said last week, there's a lot more fantasy to be played in the upcoming seasons. Speaking of MLV, the playoff teams are set. So basically all matches this week don't matter. The four teams who are going to compete in the championship weekend are Indy, Dallas, San Diego, and Omaha. San Diego is currently in third. They've got two matches left to play. Omaha has one. So not sure how those two are going to finish up. Feel like Grand Rapids had a chance, but they really blew it against Orlando this week. They needed to win that match. They absolutely needed to win that match. And I didn't think they looked great. I mean, same story. We were talking about Salt Lake City a couple weeks ago. Grand Rapids, this is your chance, you guys. You gave it away. Yep, agreed. And it's not even like Orlando's playing well. No, they were there for the taking. Abercrombie does not look like her former self. The team in general, I mean, again, they played decent down the stretch and in the fifth set, but I thought Grand Rapids was going to take it and make a push. And they were not able to. Really looked like uninspired play by Orlando. Well, there's your chance. Well, I think they were out at that point already. Orlando? Yeah. So you needed to just push them a little bit more. Grand Rapids just couldn't take advantage. That would have made it interesting. If they would have won that match, this week would have been interesting. But here we are. This week coming up is kind of a write -off, honestly. The only people who have anything on the line in MLB this week is us, our community with the fantasy. We are the ones who care, but you know what? This could be a real toss of the dice here because who the heck knows what's going to happen now that these games don't matter. It's going to be wild. What is anyone going to tank for draft pick? Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, you don't know who's going to even like be on the court. Agreed. You know what would be crazy? If somebody picked, like, the most random players and then they just went off and then, like, our whole fantasy league just blew up. Atlanta finishing second last. We had them finishing, what, in our preseason preview, like, second, third? Yeah, top three, I think. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Do you think Kayla Banworth is going to get fired? I think she has one more year just because of who she is. You think? Mm -hmm. Because Atlanta was decent and then she came in and it was like, oof. But I don't know any of the owners very well. So you don't know what they're in two years. You can't generate a reputation. Some owners are patient. Some will, you know, make an assessment and make a judgment. It's really hard to know without more data on how they operate. You know what I think? Again, I don't know her contract situation, but I'm thinking easy transition. Boop, boop. Bird Coon goes in. Former head coach of Omaha, who's like on the bench for them now. And Kayla out. It's possible. It'll be interesting to see what the offseason shakeup looks like. We'll see. Playoffs are set. Dallas surprised us. We had them at the bottom in our preseason poll. We had San Diego down there. We didn't have Dallas at the bottom. We had Dallas at like five with the caveat. We had them in the middle of the pack with the caveat that their coach could get them in a good play. And that ranking came out before we knew they had Mimi Collier. So I think. You remember we did them and then it was announced that she was going there. Okay, okay. I'm clearly not remembering anything. The Atlanta one was a big miss and the San Diego was a big miss. Yikes. That is the MLV situation in Italy. The championship is over. Milano made a push. They took down Conigliano in match three in Treviso at Conigliano's home court. which was completely unexpected. So it went match four. Conigliano came and just slapped him in Milano. So there you go. Can you imagine if Milano would have pulled off that first match upset? I know. They had a really good chance. We'd be in the fifth match here. Everybody's just getting upset at home. That would have been wild. Do you think looking at Conigliano, like they're getting a little bit older. Do you think they make, Any changes? Like, do you think Zhu Ting is coming back? Do you, they have been pretty much infallible for years, like winning everything. Yeah. There were, I would say a few cracks in the armor this year, especially early. We'll see what happens in champions league, but do you think they return more or less the same roster or do you think they make a few changes? And if they made changes, what do you think they would change? I mean, I feel like it's probably set. In all transparency, I haven't like looked at the market or anything or seen who has signed where. The only one I do know is Gabi signed there again. And I know like it's probably done. So you guys let us know. Hawk is what, 27? Not that old. Seraphar is a 22. So when we're talking old, we're talking Moki. We're talking Volosh. Kirikella is like medium. Zhu Ting. Zhu Ting's not even that old. Everybody talks about how old she is. Like, I don't think she's that old. I think she just like moves older than she is. Regardless. And Gabi's like early 30s. No, Gabi is still at the height of her athletic performance. I guess what I'm asking you is, given the fact that they didn't, I mean, they were dominant, but that there were some times where you were kind of like, hmm, where would you, if you were the GM, where would you look at the upgrades? We watched them a bunch this year, and where would you go, hey, I would maybe look for someone else here? I mean, I could see them maybe replacing Zhu Ting. But I don't know. Honestly, I could see them replacing Volosh with someone, but at that point, she has been a part of every consecutive championship. There's the loyalty aspect at that point. So honestly, I don't think they... We'll change anything. Unless they already have, I know you guys will know. So let us know because, as I said, I don't really dive in. I wait and see how things play out. Let's dive into NCAA men's. So right off the hop, the tournament format has changed. We've talked about it before, but if you're unaware, there are 12 teams. now competing in the NCAA men's tournament as opposed to the eight that were in it in the past. That's a huge change and the format goes four teams got draws right to the quarterfinals. There will be a play -in in the round of 16 for the teams that didn't get that buy -in. Let's go through. We'll talk about those first round matchups and then we'll talk with the teams that got the buys, how the breakdowns from the conference went, and a little bit of history on how the conference finals went. some of the big matches from this past week, and then maybe some predictions at the end. Let's actually start with the teams that got buys, and we'll go from there. So the 4 -1 seeds. Correct. UCLA won the NPSF. We'll talk about their games a little bit later, but they get a buy. Ball State won MIVA. They had a 3 -0 win over Loyola Chicago in the finals. They also have a buy to the quarterfinals, and they are in the UCLA side of the bracket. Then you have Hawaii, who didn't win the Big West, but came in ranked second. And then Long Beach, who did win the Big West, ranked third. You want to get into that now or later. Can somebody remind me, did this happen last year where Hawaii won the Big West and then Long Beach State took the top seed? I feel like it did, but am I just like... No, we ranted about this last time, about how the Big West tournament doesn't seem to mean anything. Why win? Who cares? What were their overall records? Hawaii finished 27 -5, had the higher RPI than Long Beach State, who finished 24 -4. So Hawaii RPI ranking was 1, Long Beach State was 3. And I mean, I get that this ranking is important and strength of schedule, blah, blah, blah. But at the end of the day, and again, I understand this doesn't mean anything. You're 2 -3, you're playing the same matchups in the semifinal if you win out. I get it. But there is a part of me that on principle, if you win your conference tournament, you should not be seated lower than somebody else in your conference who you just beat when it matters. Well, that happened last year too with Pepperdine. Totally. Pepperdine beat UCLA in the final and were ranked lower. Now, I agree with you. However, Hawaii swept the conference series. See, I hear you, but to me it doesn't matter. Conference play is important, and Hawaii goes back -to -back in Hawaii, and then they travel out. Their schedule in and of itself is a little strange, but winning when you're quote -unquote supposed to win, or let's call it a command performance, when you win in that tournament, it should mean more than other matches throughout the season, in my opinion, because you're preparing to win the conference. That's what matters. Nobody looks back and goes, oh. Who won middle of the season in 2026? Who cares? Who won the conference title? That matters. You're putting a banner up. It's weird to me. Particularly when we're talking about some of the smaller conferences, a team could have been undefeated all conference and then blew it in the conference championship. And it's a conference that won't get an at -large. So you're not going. Yeah, exactly. And the MPSF and the Big West is not as critical. But yeah, I bet it is kind of annoying. And I would be annoyed if I won my conference championship and then they're like, and who cares? Yeah. I want to know who makes that decision. The athlete in me, when I look at that, is like, this is messed up. This is just not how it should be. Yeah. I actually agree with this decision. I don't think it's wrong. But what do you think about Ball State getting the other bye? over let's say I think Pepperdine is below them USC is below them USC is below them I think Miva deserves their their champion should go into the buy with the extended schedule so I'm personally okay with it well we'll get into that next matchup but yeah I mean if you look at the RPI the top four teams in the RPI took the top four seeds albeit the order is a little different I mean, Neva slugs it out all season. If you come out on top of that conference, I feel like you deserve something. I agree. I agree. Because dang, you guys are just like beating on each other all season long. Yeah. I mean, I think it's fair that the top three conferences are represented in the top four seats. I agree. So now let's go back around. We'll go to the play in round. And so top of the play on round is. UC Irvine versus Penn State. Okay, winner of that will play UCLA. Penn State beat Princeton 3 -0 in the EIVA division. They went 22 -7 on the season, 12 -0 in conference play. They will play UC Irvine, who lost in the semis, to Long Beach 0 -3. And the winner of that, like I said, will play UCLA. I'm predicting UC Irvine to win that quite handily. Never forget last year. When Penn State kept being ranked and we were just like cheering for them to be unranked. Looks like they got it together, everybody. Okay, good turnaround. 12 -0 in conference play. Last year, didn't even sniff. Didn't even sniff the tournament. I'm happy for them, but I do think UC Irvine is going to beat them. And then, I mean, once we get to the regional. Okay, anyways, keep going. Yeah, we'll circle back to the regional finals. So next round. We have Pepperdine, who lost to USC in the MPSF semifinal. Serious payback because USC got swept by Pepperdine twice in the final week of regular season play. So I actually want to touch on that game later on. So we'll talk about that. But they're going to play Fort Valley State, who won the SIAC division. They beat Central State 3 -0. They were 14 -12 on the season, 8 -0 in conference play. So they're coming out of that division. Again, we haven't watched them play, but I have to assume that Pepperdine is probably going to win that one relatively handily. And then we're going to see a Pepperdine all -state matchup in the quarterfinals. I agree. They do very well. They were in the tournament last year. But I think Pepperdine, that's a tough matchup. You know, and we talk about this all the time. When you get to play... better teams more often. Even if you're kind of equal, and I'm not saying they are, it's just, it's harder to be as sharp. And so I think being in the conferences that UC Irvine and Pepperdine are in, they're just, they're more battle -hardened and ready to go. There can always be an upset, but that's my prediction so far. Looking at the next round, USC, who finished second to UCLA in a barn burner in the MBSF final, is playing Belmont Abbey. who won the Conference Carolinas. They were 20 -5 on the season, going 13 -1 in conference play, and they beat Mount Olive 3 -1 in their final. I actually think USC is my dark horse team. They're playing really well coming into the stretch. I think they're going to take this one, and I think they're going to give Hawaii a run for their money. I mean, Belmont Abbey is 15 in the RPI. USC is 10. I mean, USC is picking a good time to, like, come on strong. They've been ranked top 10 in the ABCA poll all year. I mean, I think that USC will take this match, yes. And next we have Loyola Chicago, who finished second in MIVA, losing to Ball State 3 -0. They went 20 -8 on the season, 12 -4 in conference play. And they're playing St. Francis from the NEC division, who went 18 -11, 10 -2 in conference play, and they beat FDU 3 -1. I've liked Loyola Chicago. We've watched them play a couple times this year. I like them in this matchup moving on to play Long Beach in the quarterfinals. Agreed. I mean, you obviously have to play the game, you know, MPSF, Big West, MIVA, like at this point in time, the competition they're getting in their conference play is just consistently stronger, which I think really helps them come tournament time. And I mean, I feel bad. Like I don't want to take anything away from these teams. The men's game needs to continue to grow so we can like continue to develop these conferences, you know, but. And this is. going to be one of the benefits of expanding the Nationals is that you need to go, and we talk about this all the time, you need to go play against the best so that you understand where the gaps are. And as these teams get to go every year, they will get better and better at understanding what they need to do. And it won't happen right away, but I bet you in five years, these aren't gimme games anymore. These teams coming out of these conferences are going to be better. And so I love this for the growth of the game. Well, and even like expanding to 12 teams and expanding to 16 teams, it's like all of a sudden a bunch more schools have the opportunity to compete for a championship. So maybe we'll start to see the talent like disperse a little bit more instead of having like 18 top recruits on one team with all of them sitting on the bench because they want to win a national championship. Now that more and more schools are being included in the tournament, I think, yeah, we'll be able to see the talent kind of spread a little more. And yeah, the rosters change. And maybe schools invest in these programs. Now that you're going to have a consistent conference winner going, some school might be, hey, we want to have that conference banner. We want to go. We want that prestige. So we're going to put a little more money into it. I hope that happens. It's always when you expand, there's some. water down teams that are there to start but this is how you make it better and more competitive a couple matches i want to talk about in full transparency like i said we were in canada we couldn't get these matches so we are still catching up on them i i took a deep dive into some of the matches i was really interested in in terms of some of the stats and some of the close matches from the top conferences and i just want to throw these out there and get your thoughts on the results so let's look at usc I mean, I knew it was going to be a big game, but I probably thought Pepperdine was going to have the edge in that one. And they end up losing 16 -14 in the fifth. Notable stats from that match is Pepperdine made 30 hitting errors to USC 17. And they were out blocked 19 and a half to eight and a half. You are starting to see USC take on the persona of Jeff Nygaard. They are. They are blocking machines out there because their stats in the finals were also, you know, pretty impressive. So I think you're starting to see an identity here. You saw Ryan Barnett hit 091 on 33 attempts. He made 10 errors. You saw, which is unusual because he is usually steady Eddie and it's heart key that is going up and down. You saw Foley Sterling hit. 429 on 35 sets in that match. And the USC middles were outstanding. I think both of them hit over 600 and had 13 kills each. So they are, they're running the middle. They're getting blocks. I'm assuming they're passing well if their middles are running that much. So they are clicking on all cylinders and they just outlasted Pepperdine. So if they beat Belmont Abbey, they play Hawaii? Yes. Oh. Are you predicting an upset? I am. I think they're going to beat Hawaii. Really? Yeah, I do. Let's look at Long Beach State versus Hawaii. So Long Beach State beat Hawaii. They beat them in five sets. They won 15 -11. The other sets were super close. The statistics for this match were, again, incredibly close. 65 kills each, seven aces each. Long Beach out -blocked them 17 to 14 .5, but over five sets, like, that is minimal. 42 to 32 digs for Long Beach, so they had a few extra opportunities. But for all intents and purposes, a super tight match. You had Gajic hit 489 on 45 sets, and Vargas hit 237 on 38. So Vargas kind of held his own, but Gajic looked like he played unbelievably well. And then, you know, Tetriski hit 293 on 41. Not bad. Roar struggled, which I think is going to be their Achilles heel down the stretch. He only hit 175 on 40 balls, and Louie hit 353 on 34. First name basis over here, everybody. Sakonoko. My boy Louie hit 353. I like Louie. They're going to need all three of those players to play really well, I think, and I'm just not sure. Normally when we watch, Roar doesn't play well. We didn't watch, Roar didn't play well. So who knows what's going to happen there. Yeah, Long Beach outlasted them. Gadget played really well. And I mean, again, this is one I want to go back and watch. Tight in the fifth set and all the way through. But they just couldn't pull it out. And that's happened to them a few times this year. And then the last match is UCLA -USC. And that went the way we thought. But... The sets were super tight. All of them were by two, except the second set was won by three points. Two of them went to overtime. The stats were unbelievably close as well. UCLA had six aces to three for USC, but USC outblocked them 12 -7. Statistically, the UCLA hitters didn't have great nights. Rama only hit 186 on 43 balls. Kelly only hit 207 on 29. Decker was their best hitter at 400. I mean, I still have picked them to win. I think they're unbelievably good. Well, no. USC was clearly like, we're going to make David Decker beat us. Yeah. Like, shut down the two guys who are hitting 400 on the year. That's an exaggeration for Zach Roma. Ron Kelly legit is. And David Decker was like, okay, I will beat you. Bye. And we've talked about this. That has to be the strategy going in. And if Decker hits 400, you lose. And with a match that close, like Sterling again had a good game, hit 438. So he had an unbelievable conference weekend. Dylan only hit 167 on 30 balls. Hold up. You called him Foley Sterling before. His first name is Sterling. I screwed that up. First name basis on people, last name basis with others. But now he's first name basis with Dylan too. It depends which stat sheet I'm looking at. You know, he played unbelievably well. Dylan's going to need to step up if they're going to beat Hawaii. But let's dive into the quarterfinal predictions now. Well, somebody sent me a message saying that Dylan Klein is not going to play volleyball after college. Like he saw the person saw a video somewhere. I'm wondering if that's accurate because, wow. I mean, if he doesn't want to play, he doesn't want to play. But like, that's a shame. He's very good. Maybe he's got a sweet job lined up. I mean, yeah. And maybe he's just volleyball is not his passion. Who knows? Those are the matches that I'm the most interested in watching, so we'll do that this week. If there are any other good matches that you guys watch that are worth going back and taking a look at, fire it into the chat. We're always looking for good games. Let's quickly go over our predictions for the quarterfinals. The men's tournament is different this year. They're playing it in two segments, so the regional finals will be at the Top Seeds facility, and then we will come to... UCLA for the semis and the finals the week after. I think we both agree UC Irvine over Penn State. And then what are your thoughts UCLA versus UC Irvine? I think it'll be a good match. I think UC Irvine can push them, but I think UCLA is going to win. I'll say that UC Irvine will take a set. Do you think they hold UC Irvine to under 20 points in any set? Yes. Okay. I like your prediction on that one. Oh, thanks. We have Pepperdine beating Four Valley State. Then we have Pepperdine going to Ball State. Do you think that affects the outcome at all, or are you Pepperdine all the way on this? I'm Pepperdine all the way, but I think Ball State will take at least a set. Do you predict, who do you think will be the best player for Pepperdine in that match? Barnett. Barnett, okay. But actually, Hartke's from Illinois. which is just like a state over. So maybe he'll have all his friends and family there, and then it'll be extra pumped. What Sarah really meant to say was, we'll see a little more peacocking than usual. Yeah. Okay, I agree. Pepperdine in that one as well. But Barnett's from up there too, so. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I think Barnett's from somewhere in New York. But you know what I mean. Okay, so I think we agree. USC over Belmont Abbey playing Hawaii. In Hawaii, what are your thoughts? I mean, you've made a good argument for USC, but I think playing in Hawaii, it will be very difficult to overcome that environment. So I will say Hawaii in five. I'm going to stick with my guns. I'm going to say USC in five. Hawaii has shown me a few cracks this year in the armor. But you are also a proponent of the cracks and losing games. I am a proponent of losing games. Not more than one, though. Hawaii and UCLA are not the same team. They are. I don't ever question whether Hawaii is going to show up with energy and intensity, which has been an issue. The laissez faire approach that we've talked about with UCLA in the past. I'm concerned that some of the matches I've watched with Hawaii. They don't have all three of their pin hitters firing at the same time. We've watched matches where my boy Louie, my first name Louie, is not playing super well. And Roar plays well and vice versa. I think Hawaii is the better team when they are all firing and playing well. And that includes Tread's set location. I think USC is playing well enough right now to cause them some issue. So I'm going to ride the hot streak on that. Okay. All right. I think we're picking Loyola Chicago over St. Francis. What are your thoughts about Long Beach versus Loyola Chicago? I'm going to go Long Beach. I think Long Beach is playing really well right now as well. So I am, they mean business. I think that's probably going to be a 3 -0. I think it'll be close. Like, Loyola Chicago is a good team, but I think Long Beach in 3. There you have it. We'll see how our predictions hold up after this week. We'll look at the results next week and make our final four predictions after that. All right, time for everybody's favorite segment of the podcast, listener questions. Question one. I have a question for the volleyball community. As someone that primarily watches national team volleyball, where should I start in terms of watching league play? Any leagues people recommend? I know a lot about football or soccer to the American audience, but I'm a relative newbie when it comes to volleyball. Shout out to all the Haikyuu fans out there for getting me into volleyball. First of all, yes. If you have ever, like, no. I was going to say if you're an anime fan, check out Haikyuu. If you're a volleyball fan, check out Haikyuu. It is a Japanese anime about volleyball and man does it hit. Very good. No pun intended. Very good. It had me in tears. Multiple episodes. Double digits at least. Double digits. So check it out. But anyway. This was put out to the community at large, but I felt like we should answer it too. So Adam, take it away. Well, I think it depends on where you're from and which national team you like to watch. But if you're looking for a high caliber volleyball, I think you start with the Italian League. Generally, like the top teams are the best in the world. They're always competing for Champions League. You said you're familiar with soccer, so it would be kind of the same situation. So I would start there. Or Turkey, but Turkey's harder to watch if you're in North America, I would say. Turkey, the games are harder to find. VBTV is probably the best place if you want to watch volleyball. They have the Italian League, they have the Brazilian League, and they have the Japanese League. And the Polish. Do they have the Brazilian League? They do have the Brazilian League. Okay, they have the Polish League, too. Excluding the American Leagues, Italy, Poland, Turkey, Japan, and Brazil are all pretty good volleyball. With Italy probably being my favorite or at least the highest production value. I enjoy watching the Italian League. I just, yeah, they've been doing it for a very long time. And then obviously watching Champions League during the season is always a highlight. Eurovolley .tv. Yes, Eurovolley .tv is where you can find those. very inexpensive for the three months that you can watch it so that's where i would start and then if you're interested in the north american leagues you have love and mlv which you're never quite sure where you can find them but a lot of them are on youtube when they always specify which channels are on but those would be the ones that i would start with kind of find your style see what you like and then go from there i honestly feel like if you're into national team volleyball and you're looking to dabble or get into pro leagues vbtb is I think it is, it has gone up in price, but it is worth the subscription fee in my opinion, because you get all the national team stuff. You get all the leagues we mentioned, plus all the beach volleyball. Like I just think it's a good deal. If you like volleyball, if you're going to watch it. Question two, when players watch film, do they watch entire games? Do you take notes or is it coaches pointing out plays and tendencies? I would say the good players watch full matches. And I think there's two parts to this question. And I don't know if this is a beach person or an indoor. I think it's indoor. Okay. I'm going to split these. If you're a beach player, you 100 % watch full matches. There's just more feel and you can see situational awareness and things like that. You need to watch the matches start to finish. On indoor, it's less important because you're watching more for tendencies and rotational things. I would say coaches watch matches all the way through or should be. And then we're distilling those down for the players in terms of what we want them to focus on. Really an indoor because the coach can be involved quite a bit. You want your players familiar with the situations that they want to take advantage of. So you're showing them generally rotations and individual player tendencies. And then you kind of have more of a feel for the match, I would say. Now you've played for some of the best. Tell me if it's different, but that's generally how I, how I would approach it. I think if we're speaking about indoor from a player's perspective or like from this player's perspective, I would watch matches. But if I was watching to, you know, familiarize myself with a team that we were playing, I would watch myself attacking and stuff against them. to see how they defended me but then for our team's defensive system I would more wait for the team sessions because so much has to be coordinated as to what the blocking schemes are going to be how like we're going to defend as a unit yes the coach kind of dictated and determined how that would work and so we all had to be on the same page with that But as far as like my own personal play, I would watch myself attacking to see how they were defending me. For me, this is a tricky question to answer because I think the Mojo's issue at the beginning of the season was setting. And I think that, you know, Alicia being a setter, she was in a unique position. to make that better so I think she did a fantastic job getting Montserrat into a place where she could help the team reach their potential when your setting is that much of an issue you don't really notice the other changes so much it's not fair for me to say one way or another like I think she made the outsides better I think she made you know this and that I just don't have enough data to go yeah, I love what she did or no, I don't think she was very good. I will say in the position where she had the most experience and the team had the greatest amount of need, she managed to improve that player and make the team very competitive. And at the end of the day, that's your job at any given time. So kudos to her for understanding what the problem was and making it better. And the team is playing well. So she's obviously got good preparation and she's got all the players moving in the right direction. Great job this season, I would say. But also, like, I'm not sure how much they were kind of sewered by injuries at the beginning. Like, Sanbothi wasn't playing early on, came back wearing a cue collar, so did she have concussion issues at the beginning? I'm sure you guys know. I don't, like, dive into. the discussion forums and stuff to find this stuff out the choice of like bringing her and putting her on the court for matches like she had some really good games I think Grace Loberg really showed up like I'm surprised at the season that Loberg has put together for her team my fantasy teams when I pick her are very thankful so that's wonderful especially because she's been like coming off the bench for a lot of her career who would have thought that Tabron would have like Kind of had those moments, you know, the decision to switch up and bench Brock Hochevich and put Lewis in. Like, those are coaching choices, too. So I think. that there's something to be said for that as well. If we're going to look at who we would give coach of the year, nobody predicted them to be in this position, I don't think. Well, they were like, we predicted them to be at the bottom. Right. And they started off at the bottom. Yeah. 100 % this year, she's done a great job. Hands down, credit where credit is due. If you're asking me technically, like, can she take players to the next level and hitters and all of those things, I need to see one more season. of it being now we're competing at a high level. Can they beat Indy? Can they beat Dallas? Are they making adjustments? Like those are kind of the next level of coaching, but man, she did a great job getting her team, getting the most out of the players that she had this year and kudos to her for that. Okay. Question four, you guys have mentioned before that winning is a skill. Do you think that that had anything to do with the outcome of the love championship game? It feels like certain Austin athletes such as Madison Skinner, Asia O 'Neill, Logan Eggleston are players that turn it on when it really matters and find that way to win. Maddie Skinner winning five championships in six years is crazy. Do you think that gives her an advantage over Jordan Thompson? It's been concerning that her team has been at the top for both of those years and lost in the semifinals. Okay, so multifaceted question here. There's a ton to unpack. Let's go in order. You go first. Do you think it had a, an effect on the outcome of the game? And do you think that those three are winners? Like mindset wise, being in those situations has helped them. Okay. I don't know them as people. Like I don't know them personally, so I can't speak to, you know, their mindset and stuff like that. Watching them, obviously they have had success at the collegiate level. They've had success in the love, you know, domain. I think what we saw in the championship, we talked about it last week, just Salt Lake gave it away. So I wouldn't necessarily say that Austin went and took it, but there has to be a certain level of mental toughness and a certain like take it attitude to hang in there. and not crumble. They delivered when they had to. They did what they had to do to stay steady enough while Salt Lake is imploding to keep chipping away. So I do think something, they have to get credit for that. If Salt Lake had been playing well and maintained that level, would they have found that way to turn the dial even more? I don't know. I don't know. But from all they can do is what is in front of them. And I think that what they showed in that moment to stay steady and keep chipping away an argument. Yes, an argument could be made that they do have a winning mentality. Yeah. And I think familiarity with your emotions in those big matches allows you to handle. you know, those situations better. Were they all world? No. Maddie Skinner did some great things down the stretch when she needed to, you know, kudos to her for blocking was good from everybody. Yeah. The short answer in the college and love conversation, I think is yes. I think it does give them an edge. They know how to be there. They know how to prepare themselves. They know how to manage their emotions. Quite frankly, the players on Salt Lake should know that too, given how long they've been playing didn't happen. Good for them for doing what they need to win. Absolutely. Let's hop to part two of the question. Do I think that winning five championships in six years gives her an advantage over Jordan Thompson? No. I still think that Jordan Thompson is the better opposite. We saw Austin turn it on when they absolutely needed to. Good for them. It worked for them. They won. But we saw Jordan Thompson be absolutely dominant for the majority of his whole season. And we're talking like teams are preparing for you because, quite frankly, she was the engine of that team. And, you know, everybody played their role, but she was the one scoring points. Good for Madison that she's been winning in recent years, but I still think that Jordan Thompson should be the forerunner for opposite. I agree, but my reasoning is slightly different. So we talk about winning as a skill, and I agree with that. But looking at these three athletes specifically, they win or the winning they have done up until this point has been in an environment where they are physically dominant than their opponents. They're better athletes at just pure athletic, how high they get, how agile they are, how strong they are. compared to, in general, the opponents that they've been playing, both in college and in love. Yes, you can prepare yourself and you have to be in that mindset and you have to execute, but you do have an advantage. And I think that's true for probably for all three of those athletes, specifically Skinner. How does she deal with being prepared to score when she doesn't have that advantage anymore, when she can't just go over top, down the line or tip and score? I haven't seen her have to be prepared to score in more creative ways. And that's not to say she hasn't done it, but Jordan Thompson has done it. She has that next level experience. And I don't think that Maddie did a particularly great job last year at VNL. So there is still a huge learning curve for her when one of her biggest assets is neutralized because everybody else is just as big and physical. Is it a good stepping stone knowing how to win? Yes, but I think... Now you're going to have to see if her volleyball execution can be at that high of a level against opponents who are preparing for you. And I'm not saying yes or no. I'm just saying jury's out. You got to earn it. So I would give the nod to Thompson still at this point. Okay, question five. I've played volleyball for about six years now and have always heard that lefties make great opposites. But when you and Adam talked about the best opposites in the world, the majority are right -handed. Why is it that the best are right -handed, but everyone talks about lefty right sides being so good? It's an interesting question. First and foremost, there just aren't that many lefties out there who are playing. We're a rare bunch. The chances of a lefty playing volleyball... being physically dominant and going up and being able to do all of those things is just statistically less probable. The thing that makes lefties, I don't want to say better on the right side, but tricky on the right side is that part A is you don't see those angles very often. So it takes time to line up the block, to make adjustments. It's just different. And you have to be very... in tune with the situation and know what your adjustments are to block a lefty and to play defense against them. So there's a bit of an advantage in just that they're unique. Kind of like left -handed pitchers. So it's not that it's left -handed are just naturally better. It's just if you have a righty and a lefty who were identical, the lefty would probably have better stats just because it takes longer to adjust to those situations and you can hit angles that... aren't as common and it's harder to prepare for. That's really all it is. And I think lefties are better suited to hitting on the right side and being opposites. And we've talked about this in the past because their hitting arm is closer to where the set is coming from. It is inherently more difficult to hit a ball that crosses your whole body as opposed to being able to cut it off early. So that's why it is more difficult and incredibly rare to see a left -handed outside hitter because the ball has to travel so far. That's why lefties are better suited to be opposites. And as Adam said, there often aren't many lefties on teams. So righties have, you know, taken more of those roles just because lefties are a rare breed. Okay, question six. What are your thoughts on the AVP wildcard teams? The drama. Who would you guys have given the slots to? Is this a missed opportunity to grow the game via Hughes and Batenhorst who are building their fan base on social media? Urango and Rice have been slumping and lost in the qualifiers to pairs who didn't get a wildcard pick. Okay. So for context in, in late March into early April, there were qualification tournaments for the AVP league, which we talked briefly about a couple episodes ago. Basically the league is, you know, a man, a men's and a women's team are assigned to a specific city and cities compete against each other in quick 15 point matches. And it's just like, yeah, a fun, different, set up to the typical AVP tournaments. Only a couple teams in each gender were automatic entries and the rest had to qualify through these single elimination tournaments. In tournament one, for example, Betsy Flint and Kylie DeBerg won. So they earned a berth. In tournament two, Kelly Chang and Megan Kraft earned a berth. And in tournament three, I believe Maddie Anderson and Elena Chacon. You know, we had a bunch of other teams attempting. We had Molly Shaw and Tony Rodriguez. We had Gina Urango, Megan Rice, Sarah Hughes, Allie Batenhorst. Like the typical names that play AVP were competing, but they didn't win. So they gave two wild card spots. I'm assuming this is just about the women because I think on the men's side, it seems pretty cut and dry. But if you want me to talk about the men. all around me. The wild cards were given to Molly Shaw and Tony Rodriguez and Gina Urango and Megan Rice. And then the rest are just like out of luck. Aren't going to play ABP league this year. I think I also gave that context to Adam because I'm not sure he was aware of what has happened. I had a little bit of the backstory, but not much. So that was helpful. It's tough. So I know all of these people personally. So it's hard to be objective, I guess. It is hard to, yeah. Looking at it from an outside perspective, Hughes, Baton Horse hasn't done anything in the sport, so that is what it is. And all you people who are like, oh, but she won a medal, a couple medals at a challenger, you guys, stop it. There was nobody playing those challengers. Yeah, she hasn't done anything in the sport yet. But for Sarah Hughes to not get... the wild card first and foremost you should have won and earned your spot in so you put yourself in the situation but i'm surprised i am surprised that she didn't get it just because she's been an olympian world champion a world champion she like this from a branding perspective seems like a miss and I will be the first one to say that the volleyball world is cliquey. So I don't know who made the decisions. I don't know any of that stuff. But from a pure Sarah Hughes is the best player out of that group who wasn't given a wild card. I'm shocked, honestly. I mean, whether you agree with it or not, Sarah Hughes has been the golden girl of USA Volleyball for a very long time. You can't deny. The success she's had in the AVP. She's won a lot of events, world champion. So Allie Batenhorse, whether she's what she's done or not, like to me is irrelevant. Like she's a non -factor here. Like you, Sarah Hughes should have been given the spot. I think just for the success and the, that she's had in the player that she is. And then she can bring her a tag along partner with her. It shouldn't matter. Which is generally how it works. which is generally how it works. Like if we want to, like if it was April Ross playing with a high school kid, you better believe they would have given the spot to April Ross. Do you know what I mean? I'm surprised. I honestly don't think I'm definitely biased. And this statement is definitely colored by my own experience, but I think it should not come down to what your social media following is said by somebody who. hate social media and never really cared about it. I think it should be based on your, I understand that the world is shifting and it's like, how many eyeballs can we get on this? So I understand that it is a factor, but I think it should be more about your play. I am surprised at the wild cards they gave. I'm even a little bit surprised. I'm so like Gina Urango, Megan Rice. Yes. Surprised about that. I'm even like. slightly surprised at Molly Shaw like Tony Rodriguez because Molly Shaw was fine when she played with Kelly Chang but she hasn't done much with anybody else again I don't know there's all kinds of factors that come in in terms of who's doing what and how they make the decisions like at the end of the day it's one or two people who get to pick the wild cards so you just you never know are they helping build the brand have they done things in the like there's all kinds of factors but this Without knowing any of that information, this seems like a very strange omission. Okay, question seven. Who were your volleyball idols when you were growing up? I wasn't really one who, I played a lot of sports growing up and I didn't watch hardly any. So I'm not sure I really had an idol. I was fortunate to train with Paul Durden when I was in university and he is an amazing human. I really enjoyed him. He was very nice to us. He was an amazing volleyball player. I learned a lot and that was a cool experience. So I would pick him, but I really wasn't immersed in the sport outside of I'm playing. So that's all I've got. Logan Tom, period. I've talked about this a little bit in the past, but yeah, she did. everything that I wanted to do. And so I just she was the perfect person to kind of follow. She made her national team when she was 16. She had an incredible collegiate career. She played professionally, national team, etc. Like so everything she did aligned perfectly with my own goals. Yeah, I wanted to be her. Question eight. Question for Sarah. Do you coach? Why or why not? Today's athletes are way too soft mentally and emotionally. I'd love to see hard -nosed players like you back in the fray. Well, thank you. I agree. I love some personality. But I want to say, I mean, yes, I do, but also no. I did a lot of coaching, like private lessons in small groups pre -COVID. And, you know, obviously in recent... time I've been taking care of a little baby so it's a lot more challenging but I think I answered this question recently like today I think just for with somebody and I think for the right situation I would I have Betsy Flint was coming back and needed some help you know coming back from pregnancy and so got out on the sand with her she's a great person you know I was I was happy to do that I've been approached by certain other organizations that I would definitely think about it in the future, especially as our daughter kind of gets older. But yeah, up until recently, I was playing so much. So I had no time because I had my own career going on. And then immediately after retirement, I could not be. that immersed in the sport I kind of needed to exhale and remove myself just just a little bit but I'm I'm at a point that like once things settle down I'm ready to dive back in hey last question for the day why do you typically see players always serve from the same spot when it would be more beneficial to move around that's a great question great question and honestly one without a good answer I can't answer that question for you because it's absolutely It's outrageous that you don't see more players serving from different angles to put passers in trouble. And I don't know for the life of me why coaches don't implement this strategy. You see them go, hey, serve to one, serve to five, but they don't talk about a serve from here and make that angle tougher or look at statistically where people struggle when the balls are coming. You have passers who struggle with all kinds of things. Depth perception with balls coming from right in front of them. Not dropping their shoulder when they're passing balls coming across the seam. Two passers who don't communicate when the ball comes. Like there's so many things you could exploit if you trained your players to serve from other places. And for the life of me, I don't know how to answer this question because it 100 % should be done. I have this question. I will say this applies to indoor. And I don't know what, I think several teams do this, but on the beach. This was something that I really focused on, like because it's such a nuancy sport, like you look at everything. So in preparing for games, we would look at like exactly what Adam was talking about, where to serve from, what angle to serve to, to create as much disruption as possible. But like it is not done enough indoor at all. As always, you guys, the listeners throw in so many great questions. Thank you for continuing to listen and give us your questions and keep them coming. We love doing this. Coming up this week, Thursday at 2 .30 p .m. Eastern, match one of the Italian A1 men's final, which is Perugia versus Trevizianova. That's on VBTV. That is the tongue twister of Adam White. I struggle with that one for whatever reason. I even practiced before we got on here and it didn't help. So that's on Thursday. And then match two will be on Sunday. Stay tuned. You can hear my voice in your head as they announce the team names. Chivitsa, Chivitsa Novi. Anyway, the sad thing is I lived in Italy for several years and I still can't say it, but that's what it is. NCAA men's regional semifinals and finals, which we spent so much time talking about, will be Friday and Saturday this week. Tune in. Yeah, ESPN+. Go celebrate and support men's volleyball, please. There'll be some great games. Yes. And then finally, Women's Champions League Final Four in Istanbul this weekend. 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