Dodgers-Padres beanball, Santana swings at fan, Megill calls ump show

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Speaker 1: What would make you? What would make you? Because you're you're more hot tempered than I am?

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Speaker 2: Am?

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Speaker 1: I am? I right? Am?

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Speaker 3: I wrong?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: About territory live all three of us in one spot. It's Todd Father, Friday, Fraser Friday. Actually, hello, Todd, good to see you.

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Speaker 3: What's going down?

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Speaker 4: Why did you wave? Nobody's waving?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, just all the camera to the people.

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Speaker 2: He's the mayor of Tom's River. Scott was talking to the mayor of Tom's River right here, waving to the people. We got Crats and Todd Father today. First off, good stuff this week. I was listening to a little stanky Yankee action. They picked it up on the last one, but the offense was kind of dead. So when that happens, you need to be entertained, and you entertained UK and a little bit of coal.

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Speaker 3: We had a little three and a half inning with Garrett Cole, one of the most unique pitchers out there. He's very intri good. He talks a lot about analytics, about pitch election, about how to pitch guys, this and that, and I thought it was interesting, you know, we kind of broke him down a little bit talking about kids baseball and travel ball too. His son and Carlo Shrawdon Sun playing the same little league team, and then you know, we talked to Yankees and you see him up there. There wasn't really film the whole time, but the guy would like strike on, he'd like grip his his his hands together and he's like moving all these hand gestures. He wants to win. And that's that's what I was like, Man, look at how intent you are and you're not even playing. So it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: That's why he was up there because imagine that every day dug out. Dude, he's got so much experience, so much knowledge. You know, he's just like this, and Matt Blake's here, like, hey, make sure make sure he stays through it, because I don't see him saying through it. He's got to finish that pitch right there. And Matt Blake was probably like, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Is there something we can do?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Get him out of here, get him in the boost. So I'm sure he's coming on the show soon. I'm sure he asked him, right, I'm sure that was like you were like in a break, You're like.

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Speaker 3: Hey, GC, that was part of it.

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Speaker 1: That was part of it. But but what did he say?

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Speaker 3: I talked to our producer about the whole situation. He said, he'll get back to me. So and we know how that goes.

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Speaker 1: So it is, you spend hours with a guy and the guy can't come on the show one time.

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Speaker 3: What would you like me to do?

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Speaker 1: I mean, drag him over.

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Speaker 2: Give us his address and we'll show up and bring him chocolates and the ends of fruit basket and say give us fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: And the little league thing. You know, it's funny about that New York Yankees players Little League. You remember Danny Almonte the whole le Okay, yeah, you know how he was shady. Guess who was on that team? Oh, what's his name? Yes, Tony Francisco Pana lived in the Dominican flew up there so he could play on that team. So it wasn't just Danny al Monte.

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Speaker 3: He was just there for the summer, that summer vacation, and it worked out. He was there for.

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Speaker 1: The summer to play on that little league team. So maybe we got a little extra sum a little.

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Speaker 3: He said his hand was killing him after that whole summer. He said his son's hand was absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 1: He said, Amante was the only one that got in trouble. He said that whole team didn't live anywhere close to where it is. It is epic. So if you're if you're playing against some kids in Little League whose sons are playing for the Yankees, just just double check them. Okay, I'm not saying kids are I think they're like six right now. But that's funny.

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Speaker 2: That's a documentary right there. I know there's been one.

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Speaker 1: I think there's been one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but just on Danny. Now we need the rest of the team. That's the sequel. Anyway, what happened last night. Let's charge the mount powered by MLB Rivals.

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Speaker 1: Lets out.

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Speaker 3: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with benches clearing, Dodgers Padres playing each other a lot lately, and it got a little testy four game series. Yeah it did, all right. So just pick a side right off the jump here, pick a side, go ahead. Are the Dodgers in the wrong or the pod in the wrong? Are they both in the right?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: I mean more of the Padres are in the right.

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Speaker 3: In the right.

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Speaker 2: Padres throwing at Oani after they threw at Latist, whether it's an accident or.

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Speaker 1: Not, Yeah, I would say that. That's why it's going to be painted as as the padres are the ones who are, oh, you know, you're just you're just attacking our players. They have to protect the padres have to protect their players. Like if I'm shilt right there, if I'm shilt going up to Roberts and Roberts just like we're not trying to throw at him on purpose, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say to Roberts, you know what, don't put dudes in that can't control the strike zone. You know, the whole organization all they want is dudes that just throw million dollar speedballs up there. If you can't, if you can't put a guy in the game that can't control where it's going, understand that your golden ticket show, Hey Otani is gonna get hit. Sorry, Like if if you don't like it, I need you to either take Otani out of the game or put pictures in who know where it's going, So to me, I get it. The Padres are gonna be painted in a bad light. They're gonna have more ejections because they're throwing at guys and that's seen as oh, bullying or like macho ball. You have to do it, you have to do it, and you also have to for the Dodgers, you gotta throw inside the Tatis. If you watch the video of him trying to hit, yes, I get it, he's got long arms. He stands farther from the plate, But when you stand farther from the plate, you have to crowd a guy more because he's trying to get extended on anything out up over.

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Speaker 2: Other teams did this too in the past, right where they would be known as pitching inside, and you'd be like, all right, things might get a little heated because if they miss, right, weren't there teams that you'd face.

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Speaker 1: Pirates, the Pirates. I came from the Pirates, you know, nine to ten, and they're pitching philosophy was we're gonna throw inside. We're gonna throw inside because of intimidates hitters, which I think is a crock of it, because there is no like, you're not intimidating guys in the big leagues, like we're all men throw inside their balls. I'll walk. But they said we're gonna throw inside. If we hit somebody, I don't care. I left the organization and I remember telling the Triple A pitching coach who was the manager at the time. I said, I know you guys are gonna pitch inside. I promise you if you hit guys, we're going to hit your guys. So you you, you make your decision. That's that's the that's the EBB and flow of baseball. Yeah, if you can't retally, it's not even retaliation. It's it's seen as retaliation because it's more of like a Kumbaya type of like, oh, everything's great, everything's it's not. It's not I have the word.

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Speaker 2: It's policing.

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Speaker 1: You're policing it yourself.

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Speaker 2: I want one thing for you. Jump. So when I first entered the MLB media world, I was more like, oh, we really need to throw guys all the time? Whatever. And I don't even remember who the player was, but I had a conversation I think it was in spring training, and he was like, well, how else do you want us to stop it?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: He goes, for example, our star gets hit twice in a game, which is what happened, Right, how do we stop it? You want us to go over there and say, hey, can you stop throwing at him even if it's unintentional, or hey, can you cut this picture. They're like, there's only one way we can actually stop it.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I doing the same.

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Speaker 1: To their best player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to their best play.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, and he knew it.

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Speaker 3: I think honestly, where where he got hit to as well? I thought that was the perfect.

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Speaker 1: Spot last night, yeah, or the day before, the one where he got hit in the in there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's too high.

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Speaker 1: No, what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: He got hit in the back shoulder, that's where you want to hit him?

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Speaker 2: I thought, wait, well, I thought you wanted a little lower and then tush back from shoulder to back.

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Speaker 1: I thought, yesterday's got a little high. I'll be honest, show hey kind of he was here and he kind of turned and he went up like this and it got him here the other day hit him rainy oh, I t band. He was like, ah, just.

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Speaker 3: It was up there. Don't get me wrong, but that's that's a good place to hit in my opinion. Like, like, like I said, any higher than that, now we got some problems. Yeah, you're you're taught to hit you know, you hit him in the butt. I mean, come on, huh, it's gonna sting for a little bit. You want to put it in the spot where they're like, oh, okay, let's let's slow down here a little bit. But yeah, I love the conversation here that you had with with the people on the bench, you know, getting to laugh after everything. But you hit you hit their best guy three times. Now, I mean, enough's enough at the end of the day, and you got to make an example. Do I like the coaches going at it, you know, the old school and me I love every second of it. It's probably not the best look that they're pushing and shoving, but that's old school baseball. Man. You know, you hit my guy, you know, and they wanted you. Brian Esposito, the assistant coach, got in there, a guy from Pittsburgh to as well, who came up in their system coaching and playing. And this is this is going to be a fun little rivalry as they get going more and more because there's two really good teams and they're teams that are you know what, San Diego feels like they're backs against the wall with all the players that the Dodgers have. The Dodgers are like, we're king tut let's go. Maybe maybe this will slow down now the teams from kind of going inside, like listen, because there's gonna be some talks from MLB and everything else. But if I'm the Padres, I'm the Dodgers. All right, it's squashed now, But when we play each other again, it's on again.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, now technically you had the it's even boo boot tit for tat whatever and kind of got his, and now it's done until someone can't find the zone again.

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Speaker 3: Like did you see Suarez walk off the They just walked off through anywhere.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like, what do you mean by they brought their closer in in a five to nothing game? You think he wasn't coming in to throw one hunch at somebody. He might get the biggest suspension out of all of them on that one.

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Speaker 1: Just because I mean, you brought I think to me, if I'm handing out suspensions, whether it's right or wrong, you have to set a precedent. He brought in his he brought in his biggest octane, his his highest caliber bullet, and they that they have to a five to nothing game. Robert Suarez is in there no chance, there's no world where he should be in that game. I get it. They needed that win. I get it. He hasn't pitched all that stuff. But it was a hunge and he got him. I mean, he got him. It should be done. But you know what I'm doing. If I'm Will Smith, the very first time Tatis comes up, you have to throw a fastball in because if you don't, whatever pitcher is out there. Anytime a pitching coach told me this back in Double A in two thousand and four, Rick Adair, he said, anytime there's warnings out there, if you want to know what pitcher has is worth anything out on the mound. When there's warnings out there, the first pitch you call is a fastball in, because if he lets it leak out over the plate, you're cooked. This dude is scared and he's not going to throw that ball in. They have to be able to command the ball in no matter the situation.

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Speaker 3: Talk a boy precedents, that's in the president's right there, and if it's a little bit in and it misses them. Here we go again. You know, it's like, all right. As a hitter, you're like, oh, they're not backing down. Okay, Now it's in your mind a little bit. Those head games they creep up in there too.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of pitchers that you can just go oh warnings, even a lot of catchers. More so, I'm looking out over. I'm leaning more.

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Speaker 2: Eight hit by pitches in this series. Also, the Dodgers are taken five of seven against the Padres. Now they don't play until August. I'm like, I mean, it's a couple of months, and I'm like, good, yeah, you let it build up again.

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Speaker 3: And hopefully they're still battling too. Hopefully it's still two or three games apart, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Unless the Padres. Unless the Padres falter, which I don't think so, because they're gonna start getting some starting pitching back.

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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I think they'll be.

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Speaker 1: They'll be there in the mix.

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Speaker 2: And you almost had Shilt and Roberts going at it, throwing hands. They bumped a little bit. Who wins that one?

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Speaker 1: Who wins? Who wins the I feel like they have.

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Speaker 2: Different attributes like Shilts a little crazier. Roberts is the better athlete.

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Speaker 1: He's like a fisher cat, like a mongoose by.

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Speaker 2: San Diego too in my mind, because there's a few guys there that really got fired up when Shilt's like gets almost player ish where he's like, screw these guys. Anyway, here he is postgame, we got something for you.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to think not, but I can't say that. Only a couple of people know that. And whether it was or it wasn't, enough is enough. You know, we got a guy that's getting X rage right now. It's one of the best players in the game, of course on our team. And this guy's getting has taken shots, okay, and before this series.

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Speaker 1: You know we hadn't.

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Speaker 6: And I can back this up with complete evidence. You know, track records speak for themselves. The teams that I'm managed don't get into altercase like this because teams I've managed don't throw a people. But also teams I managed don't take anything. And after a while, I'm not going to take it, and I'm not going to take it on behalf of Toddy. I'm not going to take it on behalf of our team. Intentional aren't intentional. Truly, that's simple. That's how this game's played. And you want to call that old school, then yeah, we'll play old school baseball.

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Speaker 2: If you're playing for him, that's got to fire you out.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't want him in that moment to be like, oh, we're not talking about it. No, I want it, Give it to me.

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Speaker 1: His fine just went up too because of that POSTCA So who cares? Absolutely, it's close to a charity. Yeah, help out. He's just helping out gleanings. He's helping out worthwhileware, he's helping out name your charity, Folds of Honor, whatever it is it, he's helping it.

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Speaker 2: So wait, give me the lowdown here on it could result, which is we're having a good time, but Tatis got hit. I mean initial tests were okay, but you know we'll get more probably and you just hope everything's okay on that front, because it's entertaining to watch all this stuff happen. But like Tatis got hit, I mean you could break his wrist obviously, O. Tani got hit in the spot that you're generally not gonna get hurt in. But if it misses, this is where We've had stuff like this happen in the past, and guys get knocked out for a while. I mean, you mentioned the other day even in fights too. Of course, who are you mentioning? Mike Morris never played again, but even I mean, remember Ranky got in the fight with Carlos Quinton broken collar bone or something, and there's a lot of that, but even just from a hit by pitch. This is the part where I'm on San Diego side of this is our best or one of our best players. I don't care if it's intentional or not. How many times do I have to get accidentally punched before I have to do something back to stop this?

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Speaker 4: Totally?

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Speaker 1: Totally. My dad was like the least person who would ever say, go and fight somebody. But if they keep going at you, at some point you have to protect yourself in what way you do is up to you, and you better have that plan in the moment. And I thought Shilt did a great job. I thought he said he was honest. He said it with his chest and he's like, you can back it up. We're not a team that We're not a team that throws the people. Doesn't happen. I don't call it. That's not a thing. But he backed his boys up, and the boys have to be juiced about it.

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Speaker 2: One more quote. Manna Machado postgame said, the Dodgers better pray that scans on Tatisa's left hand come back negative. He goes, they better put out a candle that for real, Like, come on, that's good juice. Some people are you're not throwing a punch. I'm like, whatever, this is fun.

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Speaker 3: What is that?

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Speaker 1: Nobody's throw a punch. If somebody's gonna throw a punch, Manny Machado tried to throw the bat when he was a kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if any twelve years ago.

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Speaker 1: But if anybody might try to do something, because Tatis, I would put it more towards Manny than anybody else. Many Manny's the leader of that team, whether you like him or not, whether you like his antics or not. Manny's the leader of that team. And what Manny says goes. If he's pissed, come on back in August, like Tatis smiss his time because of this, then it's not over. No, then it's not show. Hey, show Hi might might lead, he might lead baseball and base percentage of that series. Because there's there's eye for an eye, pound of flesh for pound of flesh. You lose tatist because of a hit by pitch that gets away.

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Speaker 2: That could cost your season for a team that's gonna be in a fight for a playoffs spot. And it to me, I've said this all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the Padres are a good team and they've been undervalued by some people. But the National League is really damn good. If you told me they're they're going to miss playoffs, wouldn't be surprised. I mean, there's a team in their division just now that got a pretty good ballplayer by the name of Rappie Devers. But anyway, more on this if you have questions comments, we also put up a poll in chat BC. Go check the chap BCC go check that out. And thanks to MOLB Rivals for sponsoring this charge the mound log it. Now get yourself one Hall of Fame card from legends like Derek Jeter, Greg Maddox, Jack Morris, Tony Press, Tim Rains or Don Sutton in the MLB Rivals app. We'll be right back after a word from our friend Bryce Harper.

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Speaker 3: How was it? It was incredible. Other other than the bet, it was absolutely incredible. To see the videos of my kids like watching me for the first time like that. They'll remember me getting a standing ovation. Coming into a major league ballpark. Still looks fry right there too. It's appetizing, That's what it is. I got the yellow bat. That's a that's a typical Todd Fraser swing to on a one oer count got almighty. Umpire came to me afterward. It was He said it was the saddest out he's ever called because he was a big fan. I said it was my fault anyway. But the Queen City man, it was incredible, absolutely incredible. Jesse uh, the owner of the Savannah ben Az I thank them numerous times. You send me videos of how thankful he was. It was everybody there, Cratzy, you would have been in your glory because it felt like a professional like double triple a atmosphere in the locker room. The boys were grinding. They get there and I mean, I know, I know we got to go, but they get there at like ten thirty eleven in the morning, and they're not done until the game's over with. Like they have some guys playing the band on the team. Some guys are doing the parade stuff. They sign an autographed they're on the field going over what they're doing that night. It's truly a job, but it's an entertaining job. I don't know how they remember. It's a different scene every time. It's a different why show.

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Speaker 1: We've said it before. We think Murph's Murph's just a little bit more on edge. We even asked south Freelick if he's a little if he's a little grumpy, well today or yesterday, he was definitely a grumpy. You wake a bear up early in the morning for a for a Wrigley Day game. Don't don't start screwing up pitches in the in the ninth inning. I mean he was, they were in the line, they won, and he was hot. I wish we could show it. But he was not mincing words. Even even if you can't hear what he said, you knew what he was saying towards the home plate umpire.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting.

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Speaker 1: It was egregious, So egregious calls.

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Speaker 3: Should should we show?

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Speaker 2: Let's show one before we go to mcg l Do you want to show that Ian hap a bat? Is that where the.

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Speaker 1: Lead off the lead off the ninth inning in a one run game. Yeah, and Ian Happ just no swing, strike three, actually no ball four.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, here's the grid. M I mean it's not ya. I'm a moto immaculate inning literally down the pipe. Okay, but that's where you're supposed to be working. You're working the corners. You're Miguel, you're feeling it, and you're like, he's not giving me anything.

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Speaker 1: What are you supposed to do? You can't come into the zone. You can't come into the zone in that situation. A one run game, it's way different. It's way different if it's a two run game, Ian Hapkin, especially the way the ball was flying out and wrigular yesterday, Ian Hapkin, he can tie that game up with one swing if you're just coming middle middle, center cut. But Ian Happ has a great eye, and I think guys with great eyes don't swing at pitches around the edges of the zone. They'd only swing middle middle, And I mean he put them in a bad spot because it got dicey. They needed a nice groundball, don't play. I think from Sasaki, I think it's who ended the game. But gotta be better man, Murph had to let it out.

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Speaker 3: Trevor McGill.

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Speaker 2: Bruce Closer said the same thing.

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Speaker 8: Trevy Gan kind of take me through what was going through your head as you tried to stay composed in that last inning. Yeah, I mean, you're just trying to keep the emotions even and you know, obviously we can't show up an umpire, but you know, he's he made some pretty pretty bad calls there at Abner's ending in my inning.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that's baseball, I guess. I mean they're gonna have bad days back.

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Speaker 8: There too, and the bad innings, but yeah, we just try to stay you know, mentally strong and go out there and you know, probably put the ball and play and get a two ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you gotta throw it down the middle and then hope that it and he get called a strike if they don't swing at it.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that was bad like he wasn't, like it's gotta be bad like he wasn't. He was just talking normally like a normal person should. I mean, maybe we'll get in trouble for that, But at the same time, I felt like he was just being honest.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know if he'll get in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't like, man, this guy's been terrible for this whole year. We need to get robot out like he wasn't that he just like, listen, there were strikes. I don't know what else to tell you.

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Speaker 2: Why can't you say that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just been.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, But why why do you get fined for just saying like a basic you thought you.

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Speaker 3: See it happen in other sports. I think if you say something bout a refereeing the amba, you're getting some crazy fine.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think I think it could get it could get online.

00:25:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they do. They don't do as much. When I remember when I did it a while ago. I couldn't tell you eighteen Maybe they just sat down. Joe Torre sat me down like, man, we can't do that. And more I'm like, well, you gotta make him a little more accountable. And we had this little agreement disagreement, and I didn't get fine, but it was It was a great banter back and forth that we had and we moved on. It was funny. It was the only time I seen Joe.

00:26:13
Speaker 2: I got a little warning.

00:26:14
Speaker 3: He came in.

00:26:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was probably in town, and he probably was like, Hey, I'll go over and talk to Todd.

00:26:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they flow him out just for that.

00:26:22
Speaker 4: Hey, look, Todd, you're at the end of your career, right.

00:26:29
Speaker 2: You're right, Todd umps live forever.

00:26:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, the league will be here forever. You're an ambassador for the game.

00:26:37
Speaker 3: Thanks.

00:26:37
Speaker 2: Okay, So explain this one. What did I miss here? With Yamamoto down the pipe?

00:26:45
Speaker 1: If yeah, we have the video, Yeah, where's so?

00:26:50
Speaker 2: Does the UMP say, so take us through because we don't get to hear? Does the ump like you're at the plate?

00:26:54
Speaker 3: Does nope? Hid?

00:26:56
Speaker 2: Like what what what did he say here?

00:26:58
Speaker 4: No?

00:26:58
Speaker 2: It did center cut middle quadrant. Yeah, it's it's not literally dotted middle quadrant, but it's upper portion of middle quadrant.

00:27:06
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think Will Smith knew where it was. I'll be honest, Like, that's the third out, that's the third out of the inning. You're walking off. I'm I'm I'm starting to walk off as that pitch is coming in. So what had he what was doing? No idea, he was looking for the ball up, so that could have If you watch the video again, umpires ducked down behind there and he's trying. It's right on his eye level and will Smith wants the ball up and that oh my god, just banged it. Just kicked it, just straight kicked it. It was below his glove, below is mitt and will Smith wasn't. It's not like he was getting up to call strike three.

00:27:51
Speaker 5: Wasn't.

00:27:51
Speaker 3: Should he have?

00:27:52
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, you have to sell that. But he also took the ball. I mean, you watch the you watch the move by catchers now, it's all always you know, they're bringing the ball up, bringing the ball up. Once at the top of the zone, you're bringing the ball down. That ball was right down the middle. He didn't know where to go, so he went up and he started up. So the vision of it from the umpire's standpoint was probably I started up and then I saw him go up.

00:28:19
Speaker 3: He just kicked it.

00:28:19
Speaker 1: There there's no explanation other than will Smith started up and the pitch was below where he started and then he went up. If you're talking about mechanically, but there's no there's.

00:28:30
Speaker 3: No maybe just a brain. It happens.

00:28:33
Speaker 1: He's through eighth Street. It was eight straight strikes before that stop. It would have been an immaculate inning. That's why.

00:28:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Joe Davis on the call, because I was going back and forth, said something along the lines of immaculated the immagulation.

00:28:49
Speaker 1: And I don't know if pitchers care about it, but I've seen like guys get the lineup card in like in a in a frame, like the ball, everything like it. It is a rare thing. I caught one before when I was on the Pirates against the Cardinals, and it was like, in a moment, I didn't know it. Sometimes it's like, you know, the moment's just building up, but he's from.

00:29:12
Speaker 3: Down the middle.

00:29:15
Speaker 1: Oh, I would have panicked. I would have I would have definitely blew it. But immaculate inning. I want to see an immaculate inning where they take the picture out after the second hitter sometime.

00:29:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, you reach your pitch.

00:29:29
Speaker 2: Sorry, an immaculate inning continuation, a combined immaculate inning. I'm sure it's been done.

00:29:34
Speaker 1: I've never seen it.

00:29:35
Speaker 2: Where you know, a dude gets three strikes and then they bring in a lefty and he gets three strikes.

00:29:40
Speaker 3: Rain needs one more pitch time two hours later.

00:29:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't I get the ball?

00:29:45
Speaker 2: I caught it for a combined No no or anything else then, you've got to shy.

00:29:52
Speaker 1: That'd be sick, that'd be that'd be cool. Why do you have an umpires clicker? Because I owned the umpires, I got one.

00:29:57
Speaker 2: Well for all of you complainers there like me, while they're having their side combo. Next year, this won't be a problem. They're gonna have something called a challenge system. Everyone at the ballpark would be like, you're wrong. Challenge and the robot doesn't get fooled like that, and then we fix the call.

00:30:16
Speaker 1: It's gonna be weird.

00:30:17
Speaker 3: A couple of milimeters.

00:30:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a there's a there's a buffer zone.

00:30:22
Speaker 1: But I watched I watch different like the Marlins had a picture. Masor Mazor pitched yesterday, big big lead debut or two days ago for the against the Phillies. I was watching some of his highlights and you watch you go through it. I'm like, oh, I want to see a strikeout pitches and one of them was strike out caught looking and you watch the video and they just cut it as a video. You watch it and you're like, you didn't call it? Look what? And then as the video cuts out, the catcher goes, but it never shows the replay. So it's just a video, and I'm like, it's gonna totally screw up my you when I'm watching highlights of dude punching out because you know, they go the catcher did it and it was a strike.

00:31:07
Speaker 2: Anyway, I just like, replay can ruin a walk off because everyone's freaking out, and then they're like they're going to review it, and.

00:31:13
Speaker 1: Then it is a walk off. It's not a walk off.

00:31:16
Speaker 2: All that's everyone sits there. You celebrate again.

00:31:19
Speaker 1: It's like Murray State's Murray State. They celebrated and then they had to they celebrate, re celebrate. So cool.

00:31:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hey, we're trying to get the call right. But anyway, we'll take all your questions and complaints. Krat's real question for you. So I'm in Arena Club and I opened up a slab pack. I pulled a Wyatt Langford Auto rookie card. I got an immediate offer from Arena Club. I turned it down. It was in the mid three hundredths range. I've gotten a few offers since. Thoughts on white should hold on.

00:31:54
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00:32:14
Speaker 2: That's right, bye, sell trade. Slab packs are there for you two to rip a pack, and for me, I'm just leaving it in the showroom for now deciding what I'm going to do with it. But if I did want to sell it, then I can get myself another slab pack or buy a card that I want to buy. Get twenty percent off your first slab packer card purchase by going to Arena club dot com slash val use code fo UL. Christian Campbell got optioned by the Red Sox. We're not going to spend a whole segment on it. But he wasn't hitting, so he'll go down and work on that. And he's got work to do with the glove as well. First month was a dream. It's like you're making the show. Here's sixty million dollars guaranteed you're hitting, and then the league adjusted.

00:32:55
Speaker 1: He was hitting, He was controlling the zone, yes, which is a which is really have to do when you first get caught up to big leues to control the zone, even for me my entire career. But he did a good job. The difference was he wasn't doing it with any power. And then they were like, uh, all right, we're gonna throw stuff in the zone and see what you do. And that's where he kind of got exposed a little bit. But like the defense stuff, like he didn't all of a sudden become a bad defender. He didn't all of a sudden say you know what, I'll just go play every other position that I didn't play when I was in the minor leagues. No way, this is ever gonna affect us, Like this is example f thirteen. Like it just happens over and over again. You can't just say, you know what, just go play another position or just go just go work on this one.

00:33:45
Speaker 2: That is what they say. It's job wheel It's the Boston job Wheels. They said that to Devers. Campbell's bounced around already. Then they had him taking some reps at first, and they're like, just kidding, it.

00:33:57
Speaker 1: Affects your hitting, Yeah it does. Yeah, that's what he said.

00:34:03
Speaker 2: That's what he said.

00:34:05
Speaker 1: That's what he said.

00:34:07
Speaker 2: That's what he said. All right, So I'll give you the quote and then we'll talk about what happened. Dennis Santana reliever for the Pirates. You guys know me and my temper. I'm a calm person. They just crossed the line a few times. I would like to leave it like that. He took a swing at a fan. What if he connected?

00:34:30
Speaker 3: M hum, what would make you?

00:34:32
Speaker 1: What would make you? Because you're you're more hot tempered than I am?

00:34:35
Speaker 3: Damn?

00:34:36
Speaker 1: Am I? Am I right? Or am I wrong? We're gonna yes, what would make What would make you think of? I mean he trying to slap a man?

00:34:45
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't get it that far. I'm good. I'm good at this. I'm good at this. I mean you say something about my mother? Maybe no, I'm kidding. But if we're being all honestly, he probably said something, you know, to the point about maybe one of his family members or or so. He took a shot at him about something real deep. Hopefully it's nothing serious, like somebody you know getting hurt or making fun of a situation that he's very sensitive about. And sentimental about because that's the only thing that would steer me in that situation. But I'm I'm just I was, I was. I would chirp back to the fans, but I would I would never get in that situation, you know, Yes, But and I would chirp back. If you're gonna come at me hard, I'm gonna come back at you harder. You know what I mean. Nowadays, you can't get away everything. I show the video from the signing what goofballs? Yeah, you see the video of them. He's like, oh yeah, look at.

00:35:38
Speaker 1: Me, Like the guy was, Oh, they were video themselves.

00:35:40
Speaker 3: Video on themselves and like going back at him. It was it was kind of cringey, if you want the truth.

00:35:45
Speaker 1: I mean, it's always cringy when dudes are when and.

00:35:47
Speaker 3: There were young kids too many.

00:35:50
Speaker 2: Like I just I want to know what they were saying, Like, oh, this was the Tommy fam incident too, And they got some fans kicked out that were right near on plate. Yeah, in the bougie seats wore causing problems.

00:36:04
Speaker 1: Paid a lot, you lose your padded seats.

00:36:06
Speaker 3: But yeah, and you're going after the wrong guy here and here's my thing, And like oh man, professionals, you need to be the bigger person. Okay, well you call me. You caught them on a bad day. And guess what we're we're human too, we're human too. And guess what you could say what I've heard skys go back at people and the fans start laughing, and then afterwards you're like, god, I hope nobody video tape that, you know, but it's still like how come they can bash and do whatever they want? And then all of a sudden, like we got to be the bigger person.

00:36:37
Speaker 2: That's how it's set up.

00:36:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it's set up.

00:36:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can't double headers. People drink a lot of beer, so it gets a little you know, it's like playing a football game. In a baseball game, fans so well, yeah.

00:36:52
Speaker 2: But he's that young.

00:36:53
Speaker 3: He looked young to me. It's always in low twenties. No way.

00:36:57
Speaker 1: But there's just no there's no way as a player you can swing them unless unless they grab you. I think to Gary Sheffield, did he go down in Boston one time like where he was reaching down, He's up up against that small wall, the pesky pole there, and he went to reach and they reached down to like get him. Then I think you can go if you touch, if they reach down to you.

00:37:20
Speaker 2: Yes, Malice at the Palace.

00:37:23
Speaker 1: So again that is terrible, like you can't you can't leave the field to go get a fan.

00:37:28
Speaker 2: Well that was our test but I just watched that doc the other day so that it's fresh on my mind. At one point, this is kids, look it up. Malice at the Palace. The Detroit Pistons and the Indiana Pacers had an epic rivalry and it got ugly with our testament after the wrong guy. But anyway, fast forward. The reason I'm bringing this up is eventually Jermaine O'Neill, who's a monster, he's like seven foot super athlete, is on the court and a guy comes up to him. And once he comes up and he of looks like he's gonna throw a punch, and this guy's half his size, looks like he's gonna get murdered. Germaine O'Neil's like, I'm gonna defend myself. This guy's coming after me.

00:38:09
Speaker 3: What am I supposed to do?

00:38:10
Speaker 2: Sprint away Like, yeah, I'm gonna hit him back.

00:38:15
Speaker 3: Especially on the field, you throw something at me and hits me all right, I probably I'll probably lose it. But if there's hands being touched, yeah, but this wasn't.

00:38:25
Speaker 2: This guy didn't go grab him.

00:38:27
Speaker 3: So he was doing things because he had to jump in the air too.

00:38:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you. Okay, So what should he have done? Go to the security guard and say, hey, you need to kick this guy out. He's crossed the line. He's saying things that are not conducive to whatever the rules are at the ballpark, right, because there's a line. You can't some people think you can say anything you want at the ballpark. That's like, that's actually not true. You can get booted for certain words, certain phrases, whatever. Right, there is a line, especially nowadays.

00:38:56
Speaker 3: And security's got to be better too, man, security, Well, he was just looking you show that one more time.

00:39:02
Speaker 1: What I like that, Dennis was his left hand because her right hand right right there. That's where like he's kind of he's like, oh crap, I didn't think that was gonna happen. Like to me, it happens fast to me. In this situation. Let's say he said whatever to Dennis that he said, and he said the same thing to me, and we have the same feeling that's gonna be like, hey, go get that guy out, and I'll be like, you're gone, buddy. Yeah. And then and then the guys be like, no, I'm not. No, I'm not like I'm a I'm a fan. I think he's a Pirates fan. Was But I would sit there and be like, no, you're gone. I'll still be a big league player, but you're gonna be out of here. Just just wait a minute. They're they're coming. And then it's that's how it would go.

00:39:43
Speaker 3: He's all calm. That would be different.

00:39:45
Speaker 1: Hey, big boy, I just don't see things that they have said to me that would.

00:39:49
Speaker 9: Have Yeah, there's definitely ways said some nasty thing. I mean, I'm sure you have. I can't Oh yeah, I said, can I ask you guys? I got some of the worst things though your people the bullpens. The bullpens seem to be the spot nowadays where it's like becoming a zoo and fans can just go around it in certain places in college and in MLB where it's just like, hey, I'm gonna just for three hours drink go after these guys. I mean they're spitting distance away. Do you think that maybe we should consider a little more separate. No, you want you want them breathing on them so that that we get the next idiot trying to do something I think.

00:40:29
Speaker 1: I think because you're gonna take it too far if we if we I get it, fans are gonna take it too far. In Philly, the visiting team Bullpen is on top. Now it used to be underneath. But they put them on top kind of on purpose. But the Phillies players were like, why are we up here? We should be down below. I saw a video the other day they have like a glassed in area. Now Philly used to not have a glassed in area.

00:40:52
Speaker 2: Why do you think because it just takes one bad apple so to screw this up. That's my point is I'm not trying to take everything completely separated and put them in some underground tunnel, but I think some spots just need to be careful. Remember there's the one college that now has everyone right, it takes one drunk idiot to cause that's close. In Chat BCC, free to enter chat with us in the app, and we give away up to two up to four hundred dollars of free tickets, two of them once per week for the next couple months, Todd father. Can you see the screen on there? Okay, do you want to read? After the giveaway contest Round three?

00:41:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're giving one winner two free tickets up to four hundred dollars to any MLB game of your choice this season. Here's how to enter. Drop your funniest baseball meme, Invite a new friend to the group and tag them in the post. Whoever makes me laugh the hardest wins will uh.

00:41:54
Speaker 2: We'll pick the winner. On Monday, Kratz posted that, So it's a contest where people post memes and have to make crats laugh, which everyone makes crats laugh.

00:42:03
Speaker 3: Do you what do you think?

00:42:04
Speaker 1: What do you think it would make me laugh?

00:42:05
Speaker 7: What?

00:42:07
Speaker 3: He's a gig somebody tripping coming out of a dug out man.

00:42:11
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good, that's good. Be the somebody has done that, got a little virality to it.

00:42:17
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, unfortunately, Jeremy Meyer might have the funniest one so far. Really, I don't know if he can win.

00:42:23
Speaker 2: Nope, he cannot. Being in a he's part of being a he's an employee. He cannot win nothing.

00:42:28
Speaker 4: You don't have anything that would make me laugh?

00:42:31
Speaker 3: I do, But why if I say it?

00:42:32
Speaker 1: Right now because I want the I want the memes.

00:42:34
Speaker 3: I want to post one.

00:42:37
Speaker 2: I don't even remember what I posted.

00:42:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's a bunch of memes out there.

00:42:42
Speaker 1: There's one that's made me laugh out loud so far. I never I never put l O l that's not it's not a thing like I would put laughing out loud or that made me laugh.

00:42:51
Speaker 3: That's why he doesn't laugh. He's he's too serious.

00:42:54
Speaker 1: On Yeah, I don't. I'm not taking a lazy way out of putting an emoji, and I'm writing it all out. If somebody sends an emoji or puts it on my account, you know I'm hacked.

00:43:06
Speaker 2: You don't do any emojis.

00:43:08
Speaker 3: You want the funniest me, don't emojis is not gonna allow.

00:43:11
Speaker 1: You think Sy Young? You think Sy Young did emojis. You think Ben Franklin would do it. But those are real men.

00:43:17
Speaker 2: I think Ben Franklin would do a light bulb emoji, wouldn't I think that that would be after everything territory dot chat that makes me laugh.

00:43:28
Speaker 3: I only know. And it's Albert Einstein, isn't it.

00:43:35
Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk Nick Castillanos for a moment. So he wasn't pleased with being removed from the game the other day gets benched for a day. He's back now, he said. He asked the Phillies provide him with a packet of defensive metrics after each series so he can understand them better. He talked today on evaluating his defense in his relationship with Rob Thompson. That's cool.

00:43:58
Speaker 3: Are you okay with that?

00:43:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's understand. Nick came up. Nick came up when it was about you play, go out there. You're go play every single day. That's why you had the streak of two hundred and thirty six games started. He played. He watched guys like I mean, I think he was there when like Victor Martinez was there, Niggi was there, Like that clubhouse was Vets and they expect you to play every day, and he wants to play every day. That's his base, that's his legacy. He came up, He came up.

00:44:26
Speaker 2: It was him, Maggie Tory Hunter was on the game that I was covering. There, Dom and young Erlander, Schurzer Price they traded for it just it was like a ridiculous star studded cast.

00:44:40
Speaker 1: And that's where he learned from. So so like learning the analytic part of it. I'm sure he needed, like why are you taking me out? So that we obviously we know now that that's what it stems from him getting taken out, and he was pissed about it. To me, I think it's accountability for himself. But the most ironic or the most hilarious baseball thing that could have happened the last out of the next game that he was in. They left him in the game. Guess who caught the ball at the wall with runners on first and second. Nick Castianos, running back, jumps up against the wall for the twenty seventh out. Of course it's gonna find him. So I like that he's holding himself accountable. But maybe he should have known it before, or maybe the team should have been like, look, this is we're going to take you out because you're kind of a liability in these situations. And hey have some good defensive outfielders. They don't have good offensive outfielders.

00:45:35
Speaker 2: After Nick, Oh see, I didn't realize this. We're getting some tweets where his wife Jess posted about four hundred and fourteen straight games no errors, f stat cast all that. So yep, but it's beyond errors. Nowadays, there's more to it.

00:45:52
Speaker 1: That's why he wants it. He wants to know why.

00:45:56
Speaker 2: And you can back up. They favor you if you back up like this. He is already backed up.

00:46:02
Speaker 1: He's already backed up. They backed him up. I remember back in twenty two when I was doing radio, he was far back there, and so they're already helping him in the metrics area. It's just not quick. It's okay, damn.

00:46:18
Speaker 2: A little quickly looking ahead, each of you give me one big series.

00:46:23
Speaker 3: Anything that deals with the Mets and Phillies. I'm watching. Yeah, so the Mets got to pick it up. There we go. This is what everybody thought was gonna happen to the Mets. So we'll see if they can find a way to get out of that little rut they're in.

00:46:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean watching watching that series for a while, since you know, being on the radio, the Mets have kind of owned the Phillies in the sense of like they haven't always beat him, but man, they pitched well against their They pitch well against their lineup. Anytime you got Wheeler going Game one and the Mets are coming in after getting swept, look, it's good luck boppy, but I expect it to be obviously low scoring. But that is an awesome series. And I also kind of like a check me series. The Orioles like check me, Like see, if you guys are for real, you're ten games under five hundred. You got to come in and beat the Yankees, who are a little struggle bus. But they got the best going.

00:47:17
Speaker 2: Pick me, pick me, with ten seconds to spare go the headliner this weekend, Rafiel Devers against the Red Sox. Come on, no, we don't even have to say anything else.

00:47:28
Speaker 3: Willing to play anywhere too, anywhere you.

00:47:32
Speaker 2: Might catch this weekend, just to shove it in their face.

00:47:35
Speaker 1: Matt Chapman said he looked good at first place.

00:47:39
Speaker 2: I wouldn't doubt it. Man on fire, give it to a straight What happened to my buddy Sean Casey Worth?

00:48:00
Speaker 3: Round? And first he's slowing down. You know in banana ball, if there's a walk, all nine position players have to touch the ball before they can tag you out. And he thought he could make it a second slow down, and here he goes, He's like, brother, I got this chrugging along. He could have easily got the second base, but right.

00:48:16
Speaker 1: There, dont dontelt it.

00:48:20
Speaker 3: I don't know how he made it back to first, if you want the truth. Tore it off the bone, played it off like a champ. Oh poor guy, and it was bad. Yeah, he tore it bad. He did like a ken Griffy, tore the whole hand.

00:48:33
Speaker 1: Man.

00:48:35
Speaker 3: I feel terrible for that.

00:48:36
Speaker 1: What did what did he say? What did he say? When you?

00:48:39
Speaker 3: My brother brother heard heard pop and I love working out. It's just stinks. The stinks. I love working out too.

00:48:45
Speaker 1: Man, A lot a lot of upper body from big caste of man.

00:48:49
Speaker 3: He looked good too. He looked good.

00:48:52
Speaker 1: His son's pretty good ball player, Kent State guy.

00:48:56
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00:49:17
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00:49:19
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