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<v Speaker 1>Don't be bait. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do
<v Speaker 1>this for October seventeenth, twenty twenty four. For the next
<v Speaker 1>hour or so, let me help you sort through the
<v Speaker 1>world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live with me
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Grubb. Today, I'm doing this instead of speed running astrobots,
<v Speaker 1>so you all better be nice to me. But first
<v Speaker 1>please join me and welcoming today's co host the Game
<v Speaker 1>Mess Mornings. It's jan A Choa. Everybody, Jan how are
<v Speaker 1>you doing.
<v Speaker 2>I'm still contending with the fact that some of my
<v Speaker 2>facial hair has been singed off, So I'm I'm actually
<v Speaker 2>glad that I don't see y'all in person on a
<v Speaker 2>daily basis. Otherwise it'd be I know, you wouldn't say anything,
<v Speaker 2>but I know you know something.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly because the camera and everything. But okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I know it happens to everybody eventually, right, Everyone's eventually
<v Speaker 1>gonna singe a few of the whiskers. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And then I was looking at my hand the other day,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I my.
<v Speaker 1>Hair like whoa.
<v Speaker 2>And then I was trying to figure out if I
<v Speaker 2>do know something like the back of my hand, but
<v Speaker 2>my right hand has significantly more hair than my left hand,
<v Speaker 2>and it's because some of it got singed off as
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to pry off the a little propane
<v Speaker 2>tank from the camp stove.
<v Speaker 1>Now, when you began telling us the story of having
<v Speaker 1>your face and body caught in a fireball because of propane,
<v Speaker 1>was there part of you that was hesitant because this
<v Speaker 1>would confirm all of Dan's biases against propane. Oh no,
<v Speaker 1>not at all.
<v Speaker 2>I thought, like I in my mind's eye looking at
<v Speaker 2>the grand calculus of the universe and through then I'm
<v Speaker 2>sorry the dark universe, and I doing my daily mental
<v Speaker 2>neopet tarot card reading grub. I knew that to that
<v Speaker 2>day was not the day that I would DCNC. So
<v Speaker 2>I thought, you know, nothing is gonna happen to me.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna this is gonna be a fun core
<v Speaker 2>memory for these children and myself. That's right, absolutely, Like, Hey,
<v Speaker 2>remember when Uncle Jan almost set everything on fire while
<v Speaker 2>trying to put out the fire?
<v Speaker 1>Mm hm. I we got the alarmo yesterday and I
<v Speaker 1>got it out of the box right away, and I
<v Speaker 1>but it was like vultures descending. I didn't say anything,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mention it. I didn't was like, everyone, come
<v Speaker 1>look at this. The kids just could sense that there
<v Speaker 1>was some weird thing that, let's be fair, it's definitely
<v Speaker 1>for kids. So they just smelled it in the air
<v Speaker 1>and they appeared around me and they were like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>what is this. Who's getting this? Because it's not you,
<v Speaker 1>old man. And eventually we decided like, okay, it can
<v Speaker 1>go in Emmy's room. And by we, I mean they
<v Speaker 1>decided that, but we plugged it in. One of my
<v Speaker 1>couches has like the USB thing INEXU. You plug the
<v Speaker 1>couch in, you plug a couch in whatever. It's twenty
<v Speaker 1>two before we got to get used to it. Everybody,
<v Speaker 1>I know some people been plugging couch into couch. Yeah. Absolutely,
<v Speaker 1>And I was, okay, I'm setting it up. And part
<v Speaker 1>of the setup is stand up and like walk away
<v Speaker 1>from it and then walk closely. And I stood up
<v Speaker 1>and walked backwards, and I forgot that my couch was there,
<v Speaker 1>and I basically did you ever see the intro that
<v Speaker 1>the Dick Van Dyke Show. No. At the beginning of
<v Speaker 1>the Dick Van Dyke Show. Every episode, In the intro,
<v Speaker 1>Dick Van Dyke trips over his couch and sort of
<v Speaker 1>somersaults and stands back up. I did exactly that, and
<v Speaker 1>it made a big like I'm a big man, so
<v Speaker 1>it made a big booming sound all over my house
<v Speaker 1>and stuff's like did you just fall down? And the
<v Speaker 1>kids are looking horrified, but I stood back up and
<v Speaker 1>immediately they were like, okay, Dad's okay. But yeah, it
<v Speaker 1>was it was rough. So the alarm has almost killed
<v Speaker 1>me already. I mean, I think that's what Nintendo may
<v Speaker 1>be aiming for. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, that thing's
<v Speaker 1>not worth one hundred dollars, but I like it, like
<v Speaker 1>I like a quite keep remembering it's one hundred dollars. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's a very important thing to keep in mind, you know, for.
<v Speaker 2>For folks that get paid like twice a month, you know,
<v Speaker 2>first paycheck is generally like, okay, got to handle the
<v Speaker 2>rent and miscllaneous bills, ute, UTI's and everything. That's what
<v Speaker 2>we're calling utilities now, huh, that's what they call them
<v Speaker 2>on the streets exactly exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Don't check it.
<v Speaker 2>And then the second payday generally it's like, Okay, I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna take care of like these the smaller bills, maybe
<v Speaker 2>some of the subscriptions, but I got some like fuck
<v Speaker 2>around and find out money. And then when I saw
<v Speaker 2>it was one hundred dollars, I'm like, no, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>wait until they make that watch because they listen to me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I mean they're they're they're eventually they'll get
<v Speaker 1>on your time. They're not on your time yet, but
<v Speaker 1>they'll get on your time. But I don't know. It's uh,
<v Speaker 1>it's in her room. I went in there this morning.
<v Speaker 1>It didn't wake her up. It was just going off
<v Speaker 1>and she was just sleeping right through it. And then
<v Speaker 1>I had to like wait for her to stand up.
<v Speaker 1>But I actually don't. I think it turned off because
<v Speaker 1>I walked in the room and stood up near the
<v Speaker 1>bed and so it's like, all right, someone's up. All right,
<v Speaker 1>there we go. We're uh, we're up and adam, But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>ALARMO get yours in stores. Twenty twenty five, everybody, let's
<v Speaker 1>explain what we do here most weekdays, I Jeff Grub,
<v Speaker 1>will help piece your gaming life back together. That includes
<v Speaker 1>breaking news and maybe even some of our own original reporting.
<v Speaker 1>For all these topics, I'll get the input of a
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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube. Hello YouTube, got to You gotta lean back
<v Speaker 1>on one foot. That's what I learned from watching the
<v Speaker 1>batting coaches on YouTube watch a lot of that. You
<v Speaker 1>gotta keep as much weight on your back foot as
<v Speaker 1>far as long as possible, and you want to keep
<v Speaker 1>your hands up here near the shoulder, and then you
<v Speaker 1>swing with your body and as long as you kind
<v Speaker 1>of like do the rotation back here, that'll really that's
<v Speaker 1>where all the power comes from. So you just got
<v Speaker 1>to turn your bodies when you go Hello YouTube like that.
<v Speaker 2>It's all just gonna like that like that. I guess
<v Speaker 2>you do the same thing with a pitch, right exactly.
<v Speaker 1>No, this is this is the thing I've realized. Jan
<v Speaker 1>I was throwing a football the other day and I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>I broke my collarbon when I was young, and I
<v Speaker 1>always blame like not being able to throw a great
<v Speaker 1>spiral on that, and it's like, no, I kind of
<v Speaker 1>did the same thing of like getting back on the
<v Speaker 1>one foot and twisting, buying and keeping the ball right
<v Speaker 1>up here, and it came out perfect. It was like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>everything works the same way anyway. This is a sports
<v Speaker 1>mechanics podcast now.
<v Speaker 2>Oh but okay, this time when we all go to LA,
<v Speaker 2>we're going to a batting throw.
<v Speaker 1>Into a batting cage and maybe even top golf because
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be the same thing for that too, for
<v Speaker 1>a golf swing. Kind of like just getting all the
<v Speaker 1>energy right there. Oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, I like that.
<v Speaker 1>I like that Astrobot speed Run DLC level. It's live now.
<v Speaker 1>I know we talked about this, but it's live now
<v Speaker 1>at live nine am this morning. The episodes new levels
<v Speaker 1>would drop every Thursday for the next four thursdays as well,
<v Speaker 1>so they're gonna have a total of five of these
<v Speaker 1>speed run levels. I did just get to the end
<v Speaker 1>of this one. They do seem about about as long.
<v Speaker 1>At least this one seemed about as long as they
<v Speaker 1>was the ones that were in Astro's play room. It's good.
<v Speaker 1>I can already tell there's gonna be a lot of
<v Speaker 1>chance to optimize this. Uh yeah, looking forward to it.
<v Speaker 1>Although uh like this morning it dropped I'm like, I
<v Speaker 1>was in an appointment for Emmy, so I couldn't play it.
<v Speaker 1>Then now we're doing this, and I'm like all night tonight,
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be playing Mario Party. I got another podcast,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what maybe will play this game. And
<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna have the invitational tomorrow here on the website.
<v Speaker 1>So morey, Jane, We're gonna not gonna be with the
<v Speaker 1>reps in. We'll grub.
<v Speaker 2>There's plenty of time between now and then to at
<v Speaker 2>least look up some hot strats, you know, right we
<v Speaker 2>could we could look across the water and see what
<v Speaker 2>maybe perhaps a Jordan Midler is trying to do.
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I'm not worried about Jordan Miller. What's got. It's
<v Speaker 1>gonna submit his times in metric time. Get out of here,
<v Speaker 1>fucker right, get out of here, get out here. Centimeters?
<v Speaker 1>How many inches is that? I don't fucking know. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>Marino digit drop his time chat says thirty two a second,
<v Speaker 1>thirty two point two one seven seconds. So uh, okay,
<v Speaker 1>that's something name for right away again, I'm gonna submit
<v Speaker 1>my first run, which is still happening right now over
<v Speaker 1>there on that screen. He's just like running in place
<v Speaker 1>right next to that flag. So when we're done here,
<v Speaker 1>I'll submit my first time.
<v Speaker 2>I hope it gonn be more than an hour if
<v Speaker 2>you want to make If you just want to put
<v Speaker 2>together the rundown for the next couple thursdays for a
<v Speaker 2>game mess, I'll do the show with a puppet of
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Grubb.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, perfect, we can make that happen. Also, that means
<v Speaker 1>we get to order the puppet of me finally, that
<v Speaker 1>we always talk about getting for ourselves. So yeah, hell yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Puppet Week coming soon. Fuck yeah, well my god, what
<v Speaker 1>if we did all the shows with puppets. It'd be
<v Speaker 1>very hard to play games. We can figure out some
<v Speaker 1>like Jackbox games or something. I don't know what we
<v Speaker 1>could play with the other hand, Yeah, hey, this is cool.
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy with this first release. It really did come
<v Speaker 1>out right when they said it would. I am very
<v Speaker 1>happy with this release schedule as well. Jam one level
<v Speaker 1>a week. Everyone could just focus on that. Holy crap,
<v Speaker 1>is that fun. That's gonna be a really good time
<v Speaker 1>and you can already again a lot of people were
<v Speaker 1>in it at Dan ray Care in Chest's grub. I'm
<v Speaker 1>beating your astro time I have not submitted a time yet,
<v Speaker 1>so that's I guess that's technically true. I mean also
<v Speaker 1>not true, but yeah, I'm not. I'm also not too
<v Speaker 1>worried about Dan. There is someone I'm worried about. I'm
<v Speaker 1>worried about Sean. He is someone who has He did
<v Speaker 1>speed running for Mario sixty four, so I'm worried about him.
<v Speaker 1>He's also got the youth in my hands. Yesterday I
<v Speaker 1>played Incredible Crisis and my hands were tingling after work
<v Speaker 1>today or yesterday, it was bad. Herbo is in his name, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>he go. He's nothing but fast. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Speaking about Turbo Sean, everyone, let me see some Turbo
<v Speaker 2>Sean's some capital teas, because if you look on the
<v Speaker 2>Giant Bomb YouTube right now, Sean has lovingly posted and
<v Speaker 2>uploaded all of the Mario Party part Yeah, all.
<v Speaker 1>The Mario Party parties up on YouTube. Everybody, good, good
<v Speaker 1>work with the Mario Party archive. There, Turbo Sean, So
<v Speaker 1>get yourself over on YouTube, enjoy your hen.
<v Speaker 2>Can you believe that we make Sean work on a
<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen think pad and upload this from his local McDonald's.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, listen, I think that's the ideal work scenario. Exactly
<v Speaker 1>all right. Other news is happening. Io Interactive hopes it's
<v Speaker 1>Young James Bond will start in a big double O
<v Speaker 1>seven trilogy. This comes from Tom Ivan at vigc Io
<v Speaker 1>Interactive confirmed at the same time is what it confirmed
<v Speaker 1>in the headline that the game would feature a wholly
<v Speaker 1>original James Bond story. But it hasn't revealed much about
<v Speaker 1>the project over the last few years. I think that
<v Speaker 1>sentence supposed to fall up them saying that they had
<v Speaker 1>a trailer for it way back in twenty twenty, so
<v Speaker 1>they said it's not a gamification of a movie. Studio
<v Speaker 1>head CEO Hakan Abrek told IGN in a new interview,
<v Speaker 1>it's completely beginning and becoming a story of its own,
<v Speaker 1>hopefully for a big trilogy out there in the future.
<v Speaker 1>And equally important and exciting, it's a new bond. It's
<v Speaker 1>a bond we built from the ground up for gamers,
<v Speaker 1>finally a James Bond for gamers. Jan it's extremely exciting
<v Speaker 1>with all the tradition and all the history there there
<v Speaker 1>that is is there to get together to work on
<v Speaker 1>this with the family of creating a young Bond for gamers,
<v Speaker 1>a bond that the gamers can call their own and
<v Speaker 1>grow with or fun way to put that. But I'll
<v Speaker 1>say that this is probably the right move for something
<v Speaker 1>like this these days, apart from how silly the phrase
<v Speaker 1>a James bond for gamer is gamers is. You don't
<v Speaker 1>want to be adapting movies from in video games anymore
<v Speaker 1>these days. You want to be your own track and
<v Speaker 1>have references maybe maybe even line up the releases you
<v Speaker 1>can have. You can be pulling from the same set
<v Speaker 1>of characters. Yeah, that sort of thing. But the way
<v Speaker 1>we make video games and the way we make movies
<v Speaker 1>so different, so much more complicated in different ways each one.
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to be held down and be like,
<v Speaker 1>you got to make sure that this thing comes out
<v Speaker 1>within a year and a half radius of the movies released.
<v Speaker 1>That would be such a nightmare. So sin we're doing
<v Speaker 1>our own thing and games can support that is correct, right,
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent.
<v Speaker 2>We see this problem happen most notably with wrestling games
<v Speaker 2>right grub Like wrestlers will change their look or change
<v Speaker 2>alliances in their boy stables on the fly that by
<v Speaker 2>the time the game will come out, one wrestler will
<v Speaker 2>look completely different, like they maybe they shaved their whole
<v Speaker 2>head or maybe they're not even working for that company anymore,
<v Speaker 2>and they were originally on the cover of the game,
<v Speaker 2>but now they the developers have to do some last
<v Speaker 2>minute switch thruse.
<v Speaker 1>This also.
<v Speaker 2>Leads to a lot of disappointment when you pick an
<v Speaker 2>ip like Marvels Avengers, right grub, and then you do
<v Speaker 2>that reveal and Cap doesn't look like CAP, and then
<v Speaker 2>iron Man doesn't look or sound like RDJ at all, right,
<v Speaker 2>because there's that gameation in that game definitely felt like
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of straddling the line in a bad
<v Speaker 2>way right where it's like.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, no, this is a game, it's its own thing,
<v Speaker 1>but clearly we're trading on the popularity of those movies.
<v Speaker 1>We just can't use anything in those movies. Yeah, it was.
<v Speaker 1>It was a bad idea. So like having a strong
<v Speaker 1>statement from the beginning this will be its own thing
<v Speaker 1>for the gamers is going to free them up to
<v Speaker 1>make something that can can fully stand on its own
<v Speaker 1>and they can make the best story for the kind
<v Speaker 1>of game that they're making. And I think, yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>think it's a really good idea.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I feel like trying to build a franchise
<v Speaker 2>in this way is probably in a more organic way,
<v Speaker 2>is probably more sustainable because I'm hoping that Io thinks
<v Speaker 2>that they have a hit on their hands or it's
<v Speaker 2>going to be like a good game.
<v Speaker 1>I trust Io. Yeah, me too.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if I trust anyone to make a James Bond game,
<v Speaker 2>it's probably IOI. But you know, wanting to build that
<v Speaker 2>up versus saying like, hey, this James Bond game is
<v Speaker 2>gonna last for ten fifteen years in just making it,
<v Speaker 2>phrasing it and making that bold statement from the top
<v Speaker 2>of like, actually, you know, we just want people to
<v Speaker 2>grow up with this guy. We want people to grow
<v Speaker 2>and learn with this guy. And I could see that
<v Speaker 2>being a much more palatable character to grow accustomed to,
<v Speaker 2>versus someone being shoved down our throats saying like, no,
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna.
<v Speaker 1>Love this guy. He's gonna be the best. And like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe we can't see the overall trajectory and
<v Speaker 1>growth of this version of a Double O seven going
<v Speaker 1>from like a pluckier spy that is kind of maybe
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more clumsy to someone more refined down
<v Speaker 1>the line. Yeah, and I think that, like James Bond
<v Speaker 1>is definitely one of these characters that has established itself
<v Speaker 1>as a part of the gaming cannon. There's been a
<v Speaker 1>lot of very successful James Bond games. Golden Eye definitely
<v Speaker 1>is one that people will always point back to, and
<v Speaker 1>so I think that has given IOI the confidence that
<v Speaker 1>we can take this character and there will be an
<v Speaker 1>audience of gamers who will be interested in what we
<v Speaker 1>do with it, and so we should really flex those muscles.
<v Speaker 1>They also talk here like this said, they don't they
<v Speaker 1>want this to be a trilogy. They want us to
<v Speaker 1>be a series of games. And I also think that
<v Speaker 1>maybe that was something we heard a lot back in
<v Speaker 1>the day. I think during the Xbox three sixty era,
<v Speaker 1>you would hear a new game would get announced like
<v Speaker 1>we are planning to make this a trilogy, and then
<v Speaker 1>it was very easy to believe because you could get
<v Speaker 1>three games from one series a new series on one
<v Speaker 1>console generation, and then immediately that never happened again starting
<v Speaker 1>with the next generation, especially these days now, I think
<v Speaker 1>that maybe IOI is in a situation where they're like, well,
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're not looking to do like rewrite the
<v Speaker 1>rule book every time. Look what we did with Hitman.
<v Speaker 1>We had hit Man twenty sixteen, then what was it
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen was was hit Man tours at twenty nineteen
<v Speaker 1>early maybe early twenty nineteen, and then twenty one, twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty two for hit Man three. That sounds plausible. Twenty eighteen, okay,
<v Speaker 1>so twenty eighteen. Oh then maybe it was like twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty twenty one for a hit Man three and so, okay,
<v Speaker 1>we have this character, we have this the way the
<v Speaker 1>game is supposed to work, and then we had new
<v Speaker 1>settings with a few new features each time, and it
<v Speaker 1>worked really well, and one added on top of the other.
<v Speaker 1>Now they're probably not gonna follow the exact same structure here,
<v Speaker 1>but I think if they have a strong foundation for
<v Speaker 1>what makes this a James Bond game, which probably is
<v Speaker 1>going to be like a few things pulled from Hitman,
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised if he has disguises that in
<v Speaker 1>this game as well, or so you know, maybe light
<v Speaker 1>disguise mechanics. But they'll probably have some new stuff as well.
<v Speaker 1>But if that stuff is strong a good foundation, I
<v Speaker 1>feel like, Okay, we're gonna add one or two new
<v Speaker 1>major features for each sequel, but mostly we're gonna be
<v Speaker 1>reusing a lot of stuff. And then we'll have some
<v Speaker 1>new new scenes, new settings, and it's gonna be about
<v Speaker 1>telling this the story of this character. And we can
<v Speaker 1>do that and a quick We could do it like Yakuza.
<v Speaker 1>We could do it like like a Dragon, and it's like, okay, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think that totally can work. And I sort of
<v Speaker 1>believe Iowa Interactive when they say they're going to make
<v Speaker 1>a trilogy here, what do you think?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there are for a zany and as
<v Speaker 2>hectic as hit Man can be, depending on how you
<v Speaker 2>play the game, I've seen people actually play it like
<v Speaker 2>a serious game.
<v Speaker 1>I never understand that.
<v Speaker 2>Being the character of James Bond, I feel like it
<v Speaker 2>enables you to a whole slew of different mechanics that
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be available to Agent forty seven. Yeah, it's like yeah, exactly,
<v Speaker 2>and like upgrade paths for those stuff with your watch
<v Speaker 2>and everything. And I'm also interested because I feel like
<v Speaker 2>some of the shortcomings with some of the Hitman games
<v Speaker 2>for me personally, was Agent forty seven wasn't really equipped
<v Speaker 2>to do hand to hand combat, or sometimes the shooting
<v Speaker 2>didn't feel great if you got into a gunfight. Now
<v Speaker 2>there are huge action set pieces in the James Bond movies.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm curious as to like how IOI is going
<v Speaker 2>to handle that, because it hasn't felt like right. CQC
<v Speaker 2>is is a strong suit of theirs.
<v Speaker 1>And if we treat the train level at the end
<v Speaker 1>of hit Man three as sort of like a prototype
<v Speaker 1>for what a James Bond game might feel like, they
<v Speaker 1>have a long way to go now. I don't think
<v Speaker 1>it's an impossible chasm to cross. I think they are, like,
<v Speaker 1>if that is a prototype, they're getting there, but they
<v Speaker 1>need to do more than what they did with that level,
<v Speaker 1>And of course they're working with a certain set of
<v Speaker 1>mechanics that they couldn't change for Hitman starting from the
<v Speaker 1>ground up. They've been making this game for a long
<v Speaker 1>time now, I would hope that's like, no, we're going
<v Speaker 1>to build this game so it can so a train
<v Speaker 1>action level makes a lot of sense in the James
<v Speaker 1>Bond game.
<v Speaker 2>Additionally, Grub, I feel like, you know, a major major
<v Speaker 2>component of the hit Man games is switching into disguises,
<v Speaker 2>and as far as I.
<v Speaker 1>Am remembering from all the James Bond movies.
<v Speaker 2>The main focus is how handsome and debonair James Bond
<v Speaker 2>is so it'd be an interesting switch where you know,
<v Speaker 2>we're conditioned in an IOI hit Man game to be like,
<v Speaker 2>all right, I got to switch to the skies to no,
<v Speaker 2>you're stuck as this handsome dude and you got to
<v Speaker 2>just maneuver your way through situations. I wonder if, like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, talking and charisma full factor in versus trying
<v Speaker 2>to poison someone's drink of like, nah, you gotta ris
<v Speaker 2>them up, dog.
<v Speaker 1>I mean what if it's both. What if you you
<v Speaker 1>got to risk someone up so that they get distracted
<v Speaker 1>so you can then also poison someone else's drink. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>this is where I think a prototype did work very well,
<v Speaker 1>the Argentina level in a hit Man, where it's like
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to rescue your you know, basically who became
<v Speaker 1>the love interest in that game, trying to rescue her
<v Speaker 1>and she's out there in the level and you're assassinated
<v Speaker 1>the people around her, and then you finish off the
<v Speaker 1>level by like doing the slow dance with her. It's
<v Speaker 1>like very James Bond with with with his Bond Girls
<v Speaker 1>sort of situation, and they did it in a way
<v Speaker 1>that's like this is not you know, she's not necessarily helpless,
<v Speaker 1>she was also helping there, So it's like feels like
<v Speaker 1>a maybe a modern take on the Bond girl situation
<v Speaker 1>as well. It's like they can extrapolate on that level
<v Speaker 1>on that idea. I am. I am there for that
<v Speaker 1>because I thought that was one of my favorite hit
<v Speaker 1>Man levels of all time. Now, so yeah, very hopeful
<v Speaker 1>that they can do this. Someone chat mentions, what if
<v Speaker 1>it's just forty seven obviously in disguise and they never
<v Speaker 1>ever like mention it or bring it up first Gamespong
<v Speaker 1>game perfect, Right, that's what we really want. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Turns out the Double Oh the Double Oh's are work
<v Speaker 2>in tandem with Age and forty seven and his gang.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Yeah, and uh.
<v Speaker 2>Some people are worried about plot and storytelling because we
<v Speaker 2>all forget that Hitman does have a plot and a story.
<v Speaker 1>I got interested in hit Man two's plot, and then
<v Speaker 1>I thought they did a decent job sort of you know,
<v Speaker 1>kind of hitting the notes for that in hit Man three.
<v Speaker 1>But I get most people are not noticing that stuff
<v Speaker 1>and because it's not in your face and it's not rate,
<v Speaker 1>but it's good enough. Right.
<v Speaker 2>But in the same way that the train level felt
<v Speaker 2>like practice for making a more action oriented game. That
<v Speaker 2>could be the Double Oh seven game. I feel like
<v Speaker 2>the Dartmoor level is a great example of Ioi's ability
<v Speaker 2>to like tell a story unfolding dynamically.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh god, man, we should play more hit Man. Like,
<v Speaker 1>that's honestly what I've just since I put this new
<v Speaker 1>story in here, and this happens to me. It happens
<v Speaker 1>to me all the time with hit Man, where it's
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, I'm like, I'm sort of like feeling
<v Speaker 1>anxious that I'm not playing hit Man right now. I
<v Speaker 1>feel like kind of uncomfortable that I'm not playing hit Man.
<v Speaker 2>You know, grub Home Depot has already taken out all
<v Speaker 2>of their Halloween decor and throwing Christmas. Uh, same thing
<v Speaker 2>as happening with Target. I see them switching the seasons already.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we should just have hit smiths. Yeah, let's bring
<v Speaker 1>back Hitsmith Let's do it. We'll figure it out that
<v Speaker 1>that would be real fun. I love Hitman, I really do.
<v Speaker 1>Uh Yeah, one of my favorite game franchises, and we
<v Speaker 1>will find reason to play more of it on the website.
<v Speaker 1>I might, honestly, I might just play more of it
<v Speaker 1>in my free time. There's a ton of games to play,
<v Speaker 1>and I might just start playing some more Hitman, my
<v Speaker 1>Steam doc. Know what the hell? I know it's bad,
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move along here. Former PlayStation executives says
<v Speaker 1>console arms race has plateaued. This is from Jordan Midler
<v Speaker 1>at BGC. Former PlayStation executive Sean Layden has said he
<v Speaker 1>believes that the games console power arms race has plateaued
<v Speaker 1>and that a majority of consumers are not interested in
<v Speaker 1>marginally more powerful machines. Laden, who during a thirty year
<v Speaker 1>career at Sony served as CEO of SIE America and
<v Speaker 1>chairman of Worldwide Studios, was asked by VGC at Gamescom
<v Speaker 1>Asia if the pursuit of incrementally more powerful consoles can
<v Speaker 1>continue sustainably in the future, considering increasing development cost He
<v Speaker 1>responded with this quote, We've done these things this way
<v Speaker 1>for thirty years. Every generation, those costs went up, and
<v Speaker 1>we realigned with it. He replied. We've reached the precipice
<v Speaker 1>now where the center can't hold and not continue to
<v Speaker 1>do things that we have done before. Laden adding that
<v Speaker 1>he added that he believes that in order for the
<v Speaker 1>console market to remain healthy, they must also appeal to
<v Speaker 1>a broad audience and consumers who weren't previously players. It's
<v Speaker 1>time for a real hard reset on the business model,
<v Speaker 1>a hard reset on what it is to be a
<v Speaker 1>video game. He said, it's not eighty hours, it's not
<v Speaker 1>ninety hours. But if it's that whole. But if it's
<v Speaker 1>if it is, that's a whole different category. When asked
<v Speaker 1>about future console hardware, Leyden said he believed that a
<v Speaker 1>power boost on its own would not appeal to the
<v Speaker 1>majority of players. He said, it has plateaued. We're at
<v Speaker 1>the stage of hardware development that I call only dogs
<v Speaker 1>can hear the difference. He said, If you're playing your
<v Speaker 1>game and sunlight is coming through your window onto your TV,
<v Speaker 1>you're not seeing any ray tracing. It has to be
<v Speaker 1>super optimal. You have to have an eight K monitor
<v Speaker 1>in a dark room to see these things. We're fighting
<v Speaker 1>over terra flops and that's no place to be. We
<v Speaker 1>need to compete on content, jacking up the specks of
<v Speaker 1>the box. I think we've reached the CEM. Sony will
<v Speaker 1>introduce the PS five Pro next month. Coincidentally, so about this,
<v Speaker 1>excuse me for that cough, Yeah, yeah, it's hard to
<v Speaker 1>argue with that side of things that that it's plateaued.
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is it works from both sides
<v Speaker 1>for this, and there's multiple aspects of this. Let's start here.
<v Speaker 1>There's multiple sides to this, where on the one side, sure, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>consumers are not necessarily demanding incrementally more powerful boxes for
<v Speaker 1>the most part, and I think on the on the
<v Speaker 1>development side, they are like, why are we, like, sappoy,
<v Speaker 1>why are we going to make a PS five version
<v Speaker 1>of this game where the PS four version kind of
<v Speaker 1>looks indistinguishable and we'll just run better automatically on the
<v Speaker 1>PS five. So we're just gonna keep making a game
<v Speaker 1>for the PS four and you'll get the PS five
<v Speaker 1>version because of backward compatibility. So it's like on both
<v Speaker 1>sides there, everyone's sort of like, we're not we don't
<v Speaker 1>feel the need for these new consoles the way that
<v Speaker 1>we once did, and then one sort of feeds into
<v Speaker 1>the other where people don't feel the need to upgrade,
<v Speaker 1>and then because of that, there's a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>still on PS four. So when you put out a
<v Speaker 1>PS four version of your game and it's selling just fine,
<v Speaker 1>the developers are like, and now we don't feel the
<v Speaker 1>need to make the PS five versions this loop that
<v Speaker 1>feeds back into itself, and then you know, we look back.
<v Speaker 1>You know, Nintendo prove this decades ago, decades ago with
<v Speaker 1>the DS and the Wii, where they're like, we these
<v Speaker 1>things sold better and appealed to that larger audience, and
<v Speaker 1>they very very specifically avoided the power struggle, the power battle,
<v Speaker 1>and by hey, the Wii is two GameCubes duct taped together.
<v Speaker 1>The DS is obviously less powerful than a PSP and
<v Speaker 1>what and it didn't just not matter. Both of those
<v Speaker 1>things performed better than their other, the other console counterparts,
<v Speaker 1>at least through the beginning parts of that generation. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe what he's saying here is the like PlayStation.
<v Speaker 2>Needs to realize this as well, right, Yeah, I but
<v Speaker 2>this is a problem Grub that I feel like PlayStation
<v Speaker 2>has kind of forced themselves into buy the development cycle
<v Speaker 2>and the type of games that they're making and lack
<v Speaker 2>of games that they're they're making where they put such
<v Speaker 2>a heavy focus on sad dad games, these triple A
<v Speaker 2>big blockbuster games that require a more powerful box, But
<v Speaker 2>they still also want to appeal to the people that
<v Speaker 2>have a PS four, so they try and appease both camps,
<v Speaker 2>and in the process of trying to appease both camps
<v Speaker 2>and raising the price of the PS five now making
<v Speaker 2>a PS five pro.
<v Speaker 1>There, What games am I going to play on either
<v Speaker 1>of those? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and like that's been like the longest running
<v Speaker 2>thread grub that Nintendo seems to have figured out that
<v Speaker 2>Sony and Microsoft keep forgetting that you need to put
<v Speaker 2>video games on the consoles for people to buy them
<v Speaker 2>and play them. Take a little bit of offense of
<v Speaker 2>Sean Leyden's statements of waiting for the sun to peek
<v Speaker 2>through my curtains and everything. Motherfucker. I had a great
<v Speaker 2>run of Bolotro, that's why. Well, but that's the other thing.
<v Speaker 2>Blatro is like an indie game, right that is less
<v Speaker 2>than a gig less than five hundred megabytes, I think,
<v Speaker 2>and I have devoted more time to that than I
<v Speaker 2>think all of the God of Wars.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's I think that these companies are our
<v Speaker 1>right to be a little scared. These big companies are
<v Speaker 1>Sony and Microsoft are a little scared of being like, well,
<v Speaker 1>we'll just make a bunch of blatros. Obviously, it's not
<v Speaker 1>that easy, and it is despite it being very difficult
<v Speaker 1>and expensive, it is still technically easier to be like,
<v Speaker 1>here's how we can set our games apart. We will
<v Speaker 1>spend more money on it than anyone else to make
<v Speaker 1>it look better than any other game. And that is
<v Speaker 1>a very easy marketing point, and it does work on
<v Speaker 1>a certain subset of the audience. I think that what
<v Speaker 1>we need to realize, and I think what Layden's saying
<v Speaker 1>here and what a lot of companies have come to realize,
<v Speaker 1>and what Nintendo realized a long time ago, is that
<v Speaker 1>is not a growth market. That is not where you
<v Speaker 1>are going to be able to keep doing that, and
<v Speaker 1>then the return on investment will correspond to the dollars spent.
<v Speaker 1>It will be Yeah, it'll be like now we're spending
<v Speaker 1>more and we are getting those same people who did
<v Speaker 1>demand them more from us. They did, They do want this.
<v Speaker 1>Those people are out there and they are watching Digital Foundry,
<v Speaker 1>and they do care about ray tracing and the best
<v Speaker 1>looking visuals and realistic irises and face animations that look
<v Speaker 1>indistinguishable from real humans. They're paying attention to that stuff
<v Speaker 1>and they do care. Yeah, They're just there's not new
<v Speaker 1>people joining that audience every day. The way that, like
<v Speaker 1>the overall gaming market is gaining people, whether it's on
<v Speaker 1>mobile or PC or free to play or anything like that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and relying so much on that heavy performance grub
<v Speaker 2>I don't see PlayStation gaining new converts to become gamers.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like when everyone found out that their PlayStation
<v Speaker 2>could play Blu rays, that was like a big thing,
<v Speaker 2>and people were picking up PlayStations just because like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>like this is a cheaper Blu ray player that I
<v Speaker 2>can also I guess play games on. And now because
<v Speaker 2>with the decline of physical media and streaming being such
<v Speaker 2>a big thing, like I don't know what other hook
<v Speaker 2>you have in a PlayStation, in a PlayStation or any
<v Speaker 2>console really to get that other audience in Because then
<v Speaker 2>I knew so many friends, so many different households that
<v Speaker 2>use the PlayStation as like their media device. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>now when streaming is built into TVs, there's suddenly a
<v Speaker 2>less of a reliance on any other device to have
<v Speaker 2>in your entertainment system. When your TV maybe doesn't do
<v Speaker 2>it well, but it'll still do it. It'll still hook
<v Speaker 2>up to Netflix, Disney plus Max still want to watch
<v Speaker 2>for HBO.
<v Speaker 1>Bad but kind of good enough. Yeah, Yeah, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>you're right that they've always I think that's something that's
<v Speaker 1>easy to forget that they've always had a dual pronged attack.
<v Speaker 1>And and you know, the PS one kind of coming
<v Speaker 1>out and being cheaper than the Saturn and having a
<v Speaker 1>lot of third party support. The fact that it was
<v Speaker 1>a CD player maybe didn't make that much of a difference,
<v Speaker 1>but obviously PS two being a DVD player was massively important,
<v Speaker 1>and it was it's like every single time we have
<v Speaker 1>this conversation about buying things and just it's like, I
<v Speaker 1>can get this thing. It'll be my DVD player, and
<v Speaker 1>it'll play games, and I can play Madden every year
<v Speaker 1>and all these other games, and I'm gonna I will
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of that in PS three, the Blu ray player,
<v Speaker 1>PS four, and as you said, like being able to
<v Speaker 1>blok stream media and people have in this box that
<v Speaker 1>can just stream Netflix actually was important. Even even if
<v Speaker 1>you put that aside, that generation was helped by the
<v Speaker 1>fact that it's like, I think a lot of console
<v Speaker 1>gamers were anxious after twenty eleven twenty twelve, mobile phones
<v Speaker 1>kind of taken over, Free to play taken over, and
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of talk about consoles going away,
<v Speaker 1>and PS four is just like we're console as console.
<v Speaker 1>Do you want one of those? And everyone's like Jesus,
<v Speaker 1>please yes, give us that. And I think that sentiment
<v Speaker 1>and that at that time carried into this next generation
<v Speaker 1>and and and I think these companies are like, we
<v Speaker 1>underestimated the demand for consoles last generation. This time, we're
<v Speaker 1>going to be ready for it. We're gonna invest a ton,
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're spend a lot on the games so
<v Speaker 1>that we can prove to those people that that our
<v Speaker 1>box is the one worth getting and that's gonna pay dividends.
<v Speaker 1>And it did everything except for pay dividends. It's done everything.
<v Speaker 1>It's cost them a lot of money. It did win
<v Speaker 1>those same people, but those same people are the same
<v Speaker 1>number of people as always. And so here we are
<v Speaker 1>again having this conversation. It's like what what what is
<v Speaker 1>the answer? And I move thing. Sean Layden's kind of
<v Speaker 1>just saying like, yeah, this is this is a problem,
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's a problem. It's pretty well documented at
<v Speaker 1>this point. And when he talks about things will have
<v Speaker 1>to shift, things will have to change, that sounds like
<v Speaker 1>a messy proposal for big companies. Like Microsoft and so,
<v Speaker 1>and I mean Microsoft just spent sixty nine billion dollars
<v Speaker 1>buying the most traditional game publisher you can imagine. Now
<v Speaker 1>they do have the mobile side of things, of course,
<v Speaker 1>and that's just gonna print money. But it's not like
<v Speaker 1>it's not like King. It's a factory. It's a factory
<v Speaker 1>for printing money, but it's not a factory for making
<v Speaker 1>the next big mobile hit. They have Candy Crush Staga,
<v Speaker 1>and then their other big game was Candy Crush Soda Saga.
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to like break into that market as well
<v Speaker 1>at this point. So it's not like there is just
<v Speaker 1>some blueprint that these companies are going to follow to
<v Speaker 1>shift into this new future whatever it looks like, to
<v Speaker 1>change what is a video game? As Sean Waydon says,
<v Speaker 1>but I think everyone is looking around realizing that needs
<v Speaker 1>to happen. Who's going to figure out what the answer is?
<v Speaker 1>Is it Mark Serni? It's probably Mark Serni. Sure, Big
<v Speaker 1>Mark Mark, get them on it.
<v Speaker 2>It's funny we were talking about the dual prong approach
<v Speaker 2>because with this modern lineup of consoles, there's less of
<v Speaker 2>a reliance on that dual pronged media approach, especially how
<v Speaker 2>PlayStation is kind of de emphasized getting the disk drive.
<v Speaker 2>They're pushing the disc list consoles. It feels like a
<v Speaker 2>little bit harder and maybe they're trying to squeeze people
<v Speaker 2>more by Hey, you can also get this one hundred
<v Speaker 2>dollars disk drive on the if you want. But funny enough,
<v Speaker 2>and this isn't me, folks listening. I'm not one of
<v Speaker 2>the old people on this website that loves Nintendo. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>all right, don't come at me, don't lump me into this,
<v Speaker 2>all right, But I think Nintendo grub has still done
<v Speaker 2>the dual prong approach, and maybe not media, but having
<v Speaker 2>it that you can take your game anywhere, right, having
<v Speaker 2>the pocket the handheld version of their console is just
<v Speaker 2>the console, so you can take it wherever you go, extensibly, right, Ye,
<v Speaker 2>And that is a part of Microsoft and PlayStation's strategy
<v Speaker 2>that has not quite lined up at all yet. The
<v Speaker 2>PlayStation portal doesn't do what we expected to do. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but the switch it's like, okay, well, someone wants to
<v Speaker 2>use a TV, I'm gonna stop playing Mario Odyssey and
<v Speaker 2>I'll just play it here in the same room.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think we look back at Sony's attempts
<v Speaker 1>to do handhelds. Obviously they were like, Okay, we're gonna
<v Speaker 1>do the premium hardware. We're gonna go after the Walkman audience.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna we're gonna make the Walkman for gamers. And
<v Speaker 1>I think that that was always doomed to not be
<v Speaker 1>as successful as what Nintendo is doing, because what is
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo doing families? And I think it's so easy to
<v Speaker 1>underestimate because someone now that has a family, I recognize
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, so much of my budget is dedicated
<v Speaker 1>to getting something that will please everybody, that will go
<v Speaker 1>a long way with everyone in the family. And it's
<v Speaker 1>so easy to justify those purchases as opposed to, all right,
<v Speaker 1>let's get a Walkman for gamers. That's like a style,
<v Speaker 1>a style choice, that's fashion. That is, I'm gonna get
<v Speaker 1>this cool thing that that looks sleek and I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>get in the game. And like it's hard to be
<v Speaker 1>the next fashionable electronic device, it is not hard to
<v Speaker 1>get the thing that has fucking Pokemon on it and
<v Speaker 1>and every everyone has to have that. And if I
<v Speaker 1>get that, that's an easy when for me as as
<v Speaker 1>a dad to get something from the Hey, I might
<v Speaker 1>enjoy that, but I know the kids are gonna enjoy
<v Speaker 1>it too. And then now now what I'm gonna talking?
<v Speaker 1>What am I gonna get next? It's like I'm not
<v Speaker 1>the PSP or the Vita was not even gonna bring
<v Speaker 1>up get brought up. It was another game Boy, another
<v Speaker 1>DS for the other kid, or so I have one.
<v Speaker 1>Like if the Family Market is a cheat code that
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo has completely blocked, these other bands maybe not even
<v Speaker 1>blocked them off. These other companies just don't even realize
<v Speaker 1>how to get into that, and so they don't even try.
<v Speaker 1>It's insane.
<v Speaker 2>When you go to a restaurant grub like any anyone,
<v Speaker 2>If you go to a restaurant, odds are there will
<v Speaker 2>be a child glued to some type of fire tablet
<v Speaker 2>if not an iPad, right, and that has replaced the
<v Speaker 2>kids that used to have like a game Boy or
<v Speaker 2>a DS in front of them. But you know, maybe
<v Speaker 2>you go a little bit older than three, four five,
<v Speaker 2>and you have like a seven or eight year old,
<v Speaker 2>Like I've seen what's happening here.
<v Speaker 1>You know what I might want me to talk about
<v Speaker 1>the xboxing with you. We're still doing game mess. Oh
<v Speaker 1>ah uh, that's right. You guys have been great. Bye.
<v Speaker 1>You can't bill us for that. What are we gonna
<v Speaker 1>do about him? I like, honestly don't know the figure
<v Speaker 1>figure him out. What time is that Xbox thing? Start?
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's that ten my time? Okay, okay, that's just said
<v Speaker 1>one pm? All right, plenty of time. So what was
<v Speaker 1>he doing here? Now? You think I don't know? Baby,
<v Speaker 1>he just wanted to hang out. Yeah, camasin too, he
<v Speaker 1>knows we do games. Yeah right, this is one still
<v Speaker 1>in the normal time. I thought it was that. Thanks. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>see as soon. You guys do a great killing it. Bye,
<v Speaker 1>love you, thanks, love you too, Mike. Thanks bud uh.
<v Speaker 2>Like you'll see those kids with like a switch light
<v Speaker 2>now right and like and and the beauty part, Grub
<v Speaker 2>is that the switch not only plays Nintendo's line is
<v Speaker 2>the only place, well not the only place, but the
<v Speaker 2>only place you can play first party Nintendo games.
<v Speaker 1>But there's a whole slew of hit indie games that
<v Speaker 1>are all right, let's talk some Xbox guys. Dan, you're
<v Speaker 1>right out of time. Thank you such a good employee. Hey,
<v Speaker 1>no problem, Yeah, I just heays on the calendar that
<v Speaker 1>I'd come in here and let's talk some Xbox. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, Dan, Thanks Dan anytime. Guys. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you're good at this, but we're gonna work at the stream.
<v Speaker 1>Well you go, why do you go take an extra break?
<v Speaker 1>All right, but you earned it. Oh okay, I'll get
<v Speaker 1>some matter runs and hey, you guys are doing great.
<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys, bye, Thanks man, appreciate it all right. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>The Nintendo thing is that they are going to be
<v Speaker 1>in that conver like Pokemon is the is the super
<v Speaker 1>power there, but Mario as well, where when you have
<v Speaker 1>the tablet and you have the iPad, that's sort of
<v Speaker 1>a default because that's generalized computer device. You can justify
<v Speaker 1>that by saying I could get educational apps, I can
<v Speaker 1>get books, they can watch their stream and stuff on there.
<v Speaker 1>It is basically like having a TV. But when you're
<v Speaker 1>the next Christmas comes around, we're not gonna get another iPad.
<v Speaker 1>Pokemon will be right there, Mario right there. The movie
<v Speaker 1>was something that also superpowered that. I went to the
<v Speaker 1>movie theater with the kids to see The Wild Robot
<v Speaker 1>the other day and a couple of weeks ago. Great movie.
<v Speaker 1>It was a lot of fun, pretty good movie, but
<v Speaker 1>in the pre roll ads. You know, here's a really
<v Speaker 1>long Nintendo switch ad mostly focused on Mario, and you
<v Speaker 1>could tell it was like winning people over in the crowd,
<v Speaker 1>like it is. The family market is their superpower, and
<v Speaker 1>I think that is what is going to insulate Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>from a lot of these conversations we have about what
<v Speaker 1>is Sony and microsore going to do for growth, because
<v Speaker 1>turns out there actually are always going to be slightly
<v Speaker 1>more kids in the next generation than that we're in
<v Speaker 1>the previous generation. Population tends to go up. I know
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people out there Elon Musk's freaking
<v Speaker 1>out about population growth. He's just wrong, but that there
<v Speaker 1>is always gonna be more kids, and so they're like,
<v Speaker 1>that is where we can focus on our growth. And
<v Speaker 1>then the old heads aren't going away. They still want
<v Speaker 1>to play our games. But meanwhile, Microsoft are like, where's
<v Speaker 1>our is gonna come from? And it's not as easy
<v Speaker 1>as like, let's make our Pokemon. If they could have
<v Speaker 1>done that, they would have like do they does a Sony?
<v Speaker 2>The Sony and Microsoft have to understand that just because
<v Speaker 2>something is labeled as or seen as a kid's game,
<v Speaker 2>maybe targeted towards kids.
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean that only kids play it, right, Like.
<v Speaker 2>The same people that like I look at specifically you, Dan,
<v Speaker 2>Sean Mike to an extent, four people that will totally
<v Speaker 2>play Black Op six. Those same four people dead set
<v Speaker 2>and their mind is set on Astrobot right now?
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure? What come on, y'o fucking put the
<v Speaker 1>puzzle pieces together? Dog? Yep? I mean it's even like
<v Speaker 1>things strictly list listed for kids. Uh, children's books a
<v Speaker 1>lot of popular you know, Harry Potter very popular with adults.
<v Speaker 1>But you know that goes back to like Hunckleberry Finn
<v Speaker 1>was a kid's book and now it's everyone reads that.
<v Speaker 1>Damn dropping the huck Huh listen, I don't want to
<v Speaker 1>want to use the herd h out here, but yeah.
<v Speaker 2>You know I'm the worst example, right I still I
<v Speaker 2>have stopped streaming Pokemon on this website just because putting
<v Speaker 2>teams together last minute would was killing, decincing me. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but I will still put in two three games on
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon's showdown, thinking like, man, this is a dumb ass team.
<v Speaker 2>What if this would work? Nine times out of ten?
<v Speaker 2>It does it, but we still dream grub.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's important important to have your dreams, and that's
<v Speaker 1>what you can do on the Nintendo Switch now in stores.
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna take a quick break. When we
<v Speaker 1>come back. Super Nintendo World is opening up in Florida
<v Speaker 1>and a lot more right after this. That's just how
<v Speaker 1>I say Florida, Florida, Florida, and then sometimes I'll say
<v Speaker 1>flo Rida. Super Nintendo World at Universal Epic Universe in
<v Speaker 1>Orlando opens May twenty twenty five. This is from Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>Everything Universe. Epic Universe has announced its opening date and
<v Speaker 1>as part of that, we now know when Super Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>World at Universal Orlando Resort will be available. Fans will
<v Speaker 1>be able to stop by beginning May twenty fifth, twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty four. Universal Epic Universe isn't just about Superintendo World,
<v Speaker 1>as there are five worlds to visit in total. Crazy
<v Speaker 1>The area area will also feature Celestial Park, The Wizarding
<v Speaker 1>World of Harry Potter, Ministry of Magic, How to Train
<v Speaker 1>Your Dragon, Isle of Burke, and Dark Universe. Let's Go Sorry,
<v Speaker 1>Universal a Helios Grand Hotel, a Low's hotel comprised of
<v Speaker 1>a five hundred room property that's not LWS Lows, it's Loews.
<v Speaker 1>So nothing to do with the hardware store. I guess, oh,
<v Speaker 1>I know. I'm like, I love a hardware store themed hotel.
<v Speaker 1>But there's a bunch of other details for park freaks
<v Speaker 1>out there. I'm sure they know about it already in
<v Speaker 1>the rest of you. This is going in one year
<v Speaker 1>and out the other. Hey, they did it May twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, May twenty twenty four. This is the wrong date.
<v Speaker 1>May twenty fifth, twenty twenty five. They wrote down twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty four. Here May twenty fifth. That's a real date
<v Speaker 1>that's happening. That's within much less than a year from now.
<v Speaker 1>For part of me, with these things, when it's something
<v Speaker 1>cool that I'm interested in that takes place in a
<v Speaker 1>city that's far away that's gonna cost me a lot
<v Speaker 1>of money to get to, I put it in the compartment,
<v Speaker 1>like I will care about that when it feels real
<v Speaker 1>to me, and that has now begun. This now is
<v Speaker 1>beginning to feel real to me. I would love to
<v Speaker 1>go check this out. And this is like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>people know the Super Nintendo World opened up at Universal
<v Speaker 1>in California, and that is a slightly reduced version of
<v Speaker 1>what people have in Japan for Universe. Super Nintendo World
<v Speaker 1>where they don't have the Yoshi Ride. I think it's
<v Speaker 1>the big thing missing. They'll have that here. Then they're
<v Speaker 1>also going to have the Donkey Kong Ride. I don't
<v Speaker 1>think that's opening up right away, or maybe it is
<v Speaker 1>because I think they're building it, aren't they cause nint
<v Speaker 1>I almost called Mike Nintendo Mike and chat will know.
<v Speaker 1>But otherwise, I mean that's something that maybe say, yes,
<v Speaker 1>same day Okay, sorry, did you have questions about theme
<v Speaker 1>park stuff? Is the Donkey Kong Ride opening up on
<v Speaker 1>the same day as the Super Nintendo World in Orlando?
<v Speaker 1>That's right, Yes, the Donkey, the whole Donkey Kong section
<v Speaker 1>will be there with it. It'll be that the Yoshi Ride
<v Speaker 1>and the Mario Cley Ride. Very cool. Okay, well, thank you, Mike.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's that's exciting. That is the kind of
<v Speaker 1>thing where I'm like, Okay, I've done Super Nintendo World,
<v Speaker 1>but I haven't done that stuff, and I like Donkey Kong,
<v Speaker 1>So I'm excited. How about you? What do we gotta do?
<v Speaker 1>Grub who's backed we gotta scratch to be invited by
<v Speaker 1>as media to this? What do we gotta do? We're
<v Speaker 1>friends with a theme park, Floyd, Sir, I mean, I
<v Speaker 1>guess she's kind of one, right, yeah, but I think
<v Speaker 1>I think she's one of these cabative ones that these
<v Speaker 1>team parks are afraid of. So we got to be
<v Speaker 1>careful with that, right right, right, okay, okay, Like Yo, Jenny, though, Jenny,
<v Speaker 1>you need someone to hold a camera for a day, please,
<v Speaker 1>I just want to ride the roller coaster. We do.
<v Speaker 1>I think we do know some people that are in
<v Speaker 1>coots with Universal, so we might be able to make
<v Speaker 1>something happen here. But also, I think I think it's
<v Speaker 1>time that Nintendo reaches out with the Olive branch to
<v Speaker 1>us and says we've punished you long enough. Let's this
<v Speaker 1>is the time to make it up, do you. Dan?
<v Speaker 1>Got to go to the Nintendo Museum. That went great.
<v Speaker 1>The best coverage of the Nattendo Museum, some might say,
<v Speaker 1>And if they want that to continue opening day previews,
<v Speaker 1>we should be there for the previews before Bay twenty fifth. Yeah. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen a man uh game spot brother,
<v Speaker 1>says Dan.
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever seen a man think, at the end
<v Speaker 2>of a long day with his friends that his eyeballs
<v Speaker 2>got sunburnt? I have seen that yeah, Dan Record can
<v Speaker 2>do that for you, all right, universal, Dan will make
<v Speaker 2>that happen.
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, very excited about this. I like theme parks
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Now. All it took was going with you
<v Speaker 1>guys it it.
<v Speaker 2>Every time I've gone to theme park with all it
<v Speaker 2>has been like probably the best tame park. So I
<v Speaker 2>would like to keep that trend going.
<v Speaker 1>What's making it? I know? Hey?
<v Speaker 2>Also, I don't know who I have to who I
<v Speaker 2>have to convince this, but it just rolls off the
<v Speaker 2>tongue Jan and Jenny at Blah blah blah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're right. You know there's other j names too,
<v Speaker 1>Jan and Jenny at Olive Garden. I went to off
<v Speaker 1>Garden this weekend. It was good. Actually, I realized I
<v Speaker 1>don't like noodles all that much. Yeah, I know, well
<v Speaker 1>maybe Italian season on noodles. Like it's just I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>I have something about It's unsatisfying to me. A bad
<v Speaker 1>person is probably what it is.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>Dinal Crisis fans aren't happy the PlayStation release is subscription only.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Jordan Midler at VGC. I could see
<v Speaker 1>the check going fast over there. They're probably yelling at me.
<v Speaker 1>Donal Crisis has been released on PlayStation four and PlayStation
<v Speaker 1>five this week, and fans have criticized the decision to
<v Speaker 1>lock it on the PlayStation Plus Premium subscription with no
<v Speaker 1>separate purchase option available. While some classic titles released on
<v Speaker 1>the PlayStation four can be purchasable separately, dinal Crisis is
<v Speaker 1>exclusively available as part of the service's highest tier, PlayStation
<v Speaker 1>Plus Premium, which I think I recently spent one hundred
<v Speaker 1>and twenty dollars on for the whole year, and that's
<v Speaker 1>that's how much costs for the year, And that's why
<v Speaker 1>people are kind of frustrated by this. Traditionally, like very often,
<v Speaker 1>when these games get added to PlayStation Plus, to that
<v Speaker 1>subscription tier, they also get added into the store to
<v Speaker 1>purchase separately. Why that's not the case here. It's it
<v Speaker 1>seems like it's just that's the way Capcom does it.
<v Speaker 1>For some reason. Capcom has done this before, now they're
<v Speaker 1>doing it again with dinal Crisis. It's odd. This is
<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing that people don't like about subscription services.
<v Speaker 1>I think, although it's like, you know, maybe without the
<v Speaker 1>subscription service it doesn't happen at all, but that's not
<v Speaker 1>how people view it. They're like, I don't want the
<v Speaker 1>subscription service. It's fine if it exists, as long as
<v Speaker 1>I can still have access to all the games I
<v Speaker 1>want by just giving you money. Once the subscription services
<v Speaker 1>like we are gonna take this and lock it behind
<v Speaker 1>here as a special little goodie, then people start to
<v Speaker 1>be like, no, that's not how I've ever done this.
<v Speaker 1>Why are you doing it this way? That's very frustrating
<v Speaker 1>to me. How do you view this?
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that was the appeal of game Pass
<v Speaker 2>for me grub where it was kind of like a
<v Speaker 2>glorified demo system where if I really really like a
<v Speaker 2>game and I know that I maybe I may not
<v Speaker 2>be up for paying for game Pass for the next
<v Speaker 2>couple months, but I want to keep said game in
<v Speaker 2>my library.
<v Speaker 1>I still had the option to go ahead and buy
<v Speaker 1>that game.
<v Speaker 2>It feels like a very odd choice for Capcom to
<v Speaker 2>do to keep it off of being for sale.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I just don't get it, Like, I, what keeps you
<v Speaker 2>from putting the game on the up for purchase if
<v Speaker 2>it's available to play on the streaming or the subscription side.
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't quite make sense to me. Yeah, And it's
<v Speaker 1>like it is Sony giving them extra money to keep
<v Speaker 1>it only on subscription.
<v Speaker 2>I really highly doubt that that was like the other
<v Speaker 2>train of thought that I had, But it feels very
<v Speaker 2>odd to like, no, you can only have Dino Crisis
<v Speaker 2>on this service. It doesn't feel I know, we've been
<v Speaker 2>clamoring for Dino crisis as a whole of the gamer
<v Speaker 2>nation 'arn.
<v Speaker 1>For dinosaurs to chomp on them. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've been doing nothing but yearning. And some say
<v Speaker 2>we yearn too much. But I just don't see Dino
<v Speaker 2>Crisis driving people to subscribe to PlayStation Plus tiers to
<v Speaker 2>play it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know. If I yearn, I crave, I
<v Speaker 1>crave all the time.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I yearn, I crave, I yearn
<v Speaker 2>and then inside I burn.
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, bars. All right, a few more stories here,
<v Speaker 1>let's keep going. More details emerge regarding the Great Creepy
<v Speaker 1>Typhlosian Debacle. This is from Paul Tassi at Forbes. Shot
<v Speaker 1>to Paul Tassi for collecting all this info. We can
<v Speaker 1>correct some of the record here. It doesn't This is
<v Speaker 1>not going to fully equit Typhlosion of the crimes for
<v Speaker 1>which he's been accused, but there is some clarification here.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not precisely sure why, but there has. It's been
<v Speaker 1>an astonishing amount of interest in the game freak Leak,
<v Speaker 1>which spilled out all manner of content, but none was
<v Speaker 1>focused on more intensely than a lore story about a
<v Speaker 1>typhlosion where the Pokemon shape shifts into a human, marries
<v Speaker 1>a young girl and has a half Pokemon child with
<v Speaker 1>her before her father kills him. Now, with a bit
<v Speaker 1>of digging from at rottless zero one on Twitter, which
<v Speaker 1>I saw this thread, there are some new details and
<v Speaker 1>further context for what this weird story is and what
<v Speaker 1>it is based on. Here are the highlights. First, the
<v Speaker 1>idea that the story was authored by you Naakatsu appears
<v Speaker 1>to have been messed up through translation, and such a
<v Speaker 1>person does not actually seem to exist. The leak's first
<v Speaker 1>posted on fourtran were machine translated, which resulted in some
<v Speaker 1>things being lost lost in translation from the original Japanese,
<v Speaker 1>including the kanji for the name was just like it
<v Speaker 1>means can mean both these things, and they went with
<v Speaker 1>the one that for the person that doesn't exist. The
<v Speaker 1>story is based on Japanese folklore and tales of Mugina mujina.
<v Speaker 1>Probably not mujina. Let's say mujina mujina. Yeah, let's say
<v Speaker 1>that please a badger, that is, the ability to shape
<v Speaker 1>shift into humans to trick actual humans. Yeah, the tale
<v Speaker 1>was about a mujina, not necessarily the literal pokemon Typhlosian,
<v Speaker 1>but that is the basis of the concept of the character.
<v Speaker 1>The idea was realized further when eventually his Suan again
<v Speaker 1>never hasuians Hsuian Typhlosian arrived as a ghost type, presumably
<v Speaker 1>to reflect the history. The idea of the mujina and
<v Speaker 1>the girl having a child and her being run out
<v Speaker 1>of town is meant to be more of a metaphor
<v Speaker 1>and not being able to go back to town or
<v Speaker 1>not being able to go back to a previous life
<v Speaker 1>after being touched by the spirit world. There is some
<v Speaker 1>debate about the age of the girl, but it's probably
<v Speaker 1>she's like probably like sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, or twenty
<v Speaker 1>in that range. The translation seemed to make the story
<v Speaker 1>about a sexual relationship, but the child appears to simply
<v Speaker 1>manifest one day to another, as you might see in
<v Speaker 1>folklore or myth, sort of like you know, the stalk
<v Speaker 1>the stork stork stalk, what's the bird stork?
<v Speaker 2>Right?
<v Speaker 1>The dark? Yeah, that drops off the baby. Yeah, that
<v Speaker 1>was a tough one for me, that that sort of situation.
<v Speaker 1>So maybe not as graphic as people are imagining. Still
<v Speaker 1>that he turns into a human. And what other purpose
<v Speaker 1>would you have to do that? Now when you when
<v Speaker 1>you say, like when you like to say, Okay, we
<v Speaker 1>are going to base this thing on folklore, that's one thing.
<v Speaker 1>But when people hear like the details of the story
<v Speaker 1>and like what if that was in Pokemon, people aren't
<v Speaker 1>going to raise eyebrows. Right. It's it's like, there is
<v Speaker 1>a folklore in America. I think it actually goes back
<v Speaker 1>to the first First Nations people, the Native Americans of
<v Speaker 1>there is a mythical coyote that would bury itself in
<v Speaker 1>the ground in a strawberry field and have part of
<v Speaker 1>his body sticking out in that strawberry field. So someone
<v Speaker 1>would come try to pick it, and it's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>that's weird folk or sure if the Pokemon company was like,
<v Speaker 1>let's make a Pokemon based on that perverted coyote, uh,
<v Speaker 1>people would still raise eyebrows. So sure there was some
<v Speaker 1>stuff lost in translation here and again, maybe some of
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, maybe there's still more lost in translation, Maybe
<v Speaker 1>there's more that we don't know about the validity of
<v Speaker 1>this leak in the first place. But I get why
<v Speaker 1>people were raising their eyebrows in the first place. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a choice grub.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can find inspiration in lots of places,
<v Speaker 2>but maybe we shy away from basing off of one
<v Speaker 2>of the starter pokemon for this generation.
<v Speaker 1>After folklore that I mean, all folklore is kind of
<v Speaker 1>fucked up. Yeah, well of it exactly. And it's not like, yeah, oh,
<v Speaker 1>Japanese folklore, so like the Norse folklore doesn't like Loki
<v Speaker 1>turn into a horse and have sex with his dad
<v Speaker 1>or something. I don't know, it's crazy.
<v Speaker 2>There's like there's like Filipino stuff where it's like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>if you pee on this mount of dirt and you
<v Speaker 2>don't apologize, your dick is going to explode.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I never peeed outside exploded, So by proof,
<v Speaker 1>we're good. Yeah, we're good. Yeah, it's a weird rope
<v Speaker 1>to walk, I guess.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, let's let's blame some of this on translation errors,
<v Speaker 2>let alone people just making scuttle butt for the sake
<v Speaker 2>of making scuttle butt and maybe putting together threads that
<v Speaker 2>weren't meant to be put together.
<v Speaker 1>Right, And also just like the lack of context of
<v Speaker 1>maybe bringing up this piece of folklore in a setting
<v Speaker 1>where you're working in a Japanese studio with a lot
<v Speaker 1>of other Japanese people could be the most normal thing
<v Speaker 1>in the world, just like bringing up Loki and then
<v Speaker 1>if you brought up lo King and then you'd like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>here's all the weird stuff that you did or Zeus
<v Speaker 1>and so I know that's super normal. For so many
<v Speaker 1>video game studios, they don't even think that that's weird.
<v Speaker 1>But if you were to take out of context like
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to put a guy in there they had
<v Speaker 1>sex with animals, like, yeah, that's gonna make people able
<v Speaker 1>go white? What is happening here? Especially breaking on all right.
<v Speaker 1>Analog's four K and sixty four console launches twenty twenty
<v Speaker 1>five or two hundred fifty dollars. We touched on this
<v Speaker 1>a little bit yesterday, but it was at the end
<v Speaker 1>of the show. Details are in, but it's mostly what
<v Speaker 1>you what you heard. It is going to go on
<v Speaker 1>pre order, yeah, the twenty first of October at eleven
<v Speaker 1>am Eastern. It is a full reimagine of the N
<v Speaker 1>sixty four. It is FPGA hardware emulation. They are emulating
<v Speaker 1>the hardware on the hardware side. It will run the
<v Speaker 1>games at a four K resolution. That's ten times the
<v Speaker 1>resolution of original in sixty four games. It'd look pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>I am pretty excited about this. I think I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>get it. Two hundred and fifty dollars. To me, that
<v Speaker 1>sounds that's you know what it is. As part of
<v Speaker 1>it is I remember what it was for, like the
<v Speaker 1>analog NT or whatever it was called, the original Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't and that was like five hundred or
<v Speaker 1>six hundred dollars or something like that. So getting this
<v Speaker 1>down to I think what the original law Bunch price
<v Speaker 1>of the N sixty four was, it feels like a
<v Speaker 1>real steal in twenty twenty four. Crazy. I'm happy for you, Greb. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I think. Also I'm coming to the realization that I
<v Speaker 1>think I definitely like the PS one more than the
<v Speaker 1>PS two. I know that's crazy, and everyone she yell
<v Speaker 1>at me. That's fine. I love the PS two still,
<v Speaker 1>but I like the PS one more than the PS two.
<v Speaker 1>When I go think about what games make me happy.
<v Speaker 1>It's the PS one versus PS two. It's like right
<v Speaker 1>on the borderline for me between N sixty four and GameCube.
<v Speaker 1>And I know that will really make Mike yell at me.
<v Speaker 1>I think I do sto prefer GameCube, but it's close.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just someone who got a lot of joy out
<v Speaker 1>of those early three D games. They were weird, and
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them are ugly, especially on the N
<v Speaker 1>sixty four, I know, but it's my kind of ugly.
<v Speaker 1>I own that ugliness and I want more of it
<v Speaker 1>in my life. So this this thing's gonna make me happy,
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm I'm gonna get it. I'm trying to think, now,
<v Speaker 1>what do I like more? The Nintendo DS or the
<v Speaker 1>game Boy Advance. Yeah, it's tough. I mean game Boy
<v Speaker 1>Advance is kind of the perfect. It hits such the
<v Speaker 1>right time of like two D graphics head so matured,
<v Speaker 1>and it had and it had a very you know,
<v Speaker 1>it's the dot matrix screen, the LCD screen, not the
<v Speaker 1>dot matrix the LCD screen of like, we can put
<v Speaker 1>these pixels exactly where we want and we don't have
<v Speaker 1>to worry about people having a CRT, so we can
<v Speaker 1>have be super accurate with our art, and I just
<v Speaker 1>think so many games look so incredible in the Game
<v Speaker 1>Boy Advance they I think it's got the games that
<v Speaker 1>I would consider to be the most timeless, uh before
<v Speaker 1>this era of now when you kind of do whatever
<v Speaker 1>you want with your art. So yeah, for me, it's
<v Speaker 1>Game Advance. I think I'm with you.
<v Speaker 2>If it's specifically the Game Boy sp yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, game for sure, definitely. Yeah. Marino's right. Those two
<v Speaker 1>face buttons on the Game Boy Advance the only thing
<v Speaker 1>that really held that system back. Imagine that thing had
<v Speaker 1>six face buttons. Let's do it. It's another thing I
<v Speaker 1>like about this Analog three D is they're going to
<v Speaker 1>launch with an Xbox style controller, but with the A
<v Speaker 1>and the B button and then the four C buttons.
<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna have six face buttons. And I'm never
<v Speaker 1>someone who complained about the sea buttons. So I'm down.
<v Speaker 1>Let's go.
<v Speaker 2>We someone put a quick pull in chat between the
<v Speaker 2>GB and the DS thirty to twenty eight thirty for
<v Speaker 2>the GBA.
<v Speaker 1>Very tight race. Yep. Yeah, it's an eight bit dough controller. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>a bit dough analog basically the same company, you know,
<v Speaker 1>they have the same owners. Basically, all right, that does
<v Speaker 1>it for the news. I actually let me get the
<v Speaker 1>pull question. While I'm getting that set up, jam, whyn't
<v Speaker 1>you tell people where we have going on for the
<v Speaker 1>rest of the day. Oh boy, Grub.
<v Speaker 2>In about an hour or less than an hour's time,
<v Speaker 2>we will assemble a crew and we will talk over
<v Speaker 2>the Xbox Partner showcase later today, voicemail, dump Truck tomorrow,
<v Speaker 2>another episode of Game this mornings, and also we will
<v Speaker 2>have the astro bought Grand pre I believe we're gonna
<v Speaker 2>skip BCR this week because a lot of stuff going
<v Speaker 2>on short week kind of throws us off. Apologies, folks. Yep,
<v Speaker 2>we'll go back and listen to the Metaphor episode from
<v Speaker 2>last week. We should definitely get Jessica Cogswell on more
<v Speaker 2>things as well.
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, she is fan. She is so nice. She was
<v Speaker 1>She's the nicest things to me anyone's ever said when
<v Speaker 1>when I first met her. So so cool, so cool
<v Speaker 1>and kind.
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic writer, fantastic reviewer, blessed over as a colleague, but
<v Speaker 2>also also speaking about colleagues, speaking about wonderful times. You know, Grub,
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get to celebrate my birthday last week with
<v Speaker 2>you all, and that pains me inside. So I think
<v Speaker 2>it's only right. I think it's only right to have
<v Speaker 2>a party. Yeah, for some type of party tonight and
<v Speaker 2>hurts everyone except for you. That's a good, exactly one,
<v Speaker 2>That one that I'll just sit back and produce. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe I'll polish off of that buzzball. Finally,
<v Speaker 2>let's go because Mario Party Party Folks is returning. It's
<v Speaker 2>returning with the Blight Boys. That's right, Jeff Grubb, Mike Manatti,
<v Speaker 2>Dan Rekert. They're going to party it up, but not with.
<v Speaker 1>Me, with the one and only Bailey Myers. Yeah, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, you didn't mastermind this a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>You're like, what if Bailey was in there with the
<v Speaker 1>Black Boys because you knew how important it would be
<v Speaker 1>to her, and then you immediately went to talk, like
<v Speaker 1>to set that, like to do the planning, like hey, Billy,
<v Speaker 1>here's what's happening. I'm producing the show. And then you
<v Speaker 1>help make sure she knew the time so she could
<v Speaker 1>change her flight to get home faster so she could
<v Speaker 1>be there for this because she intends to demolish mostly Dan,
<v Speaker 1>but all of us.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think she's gonna mind if I read
<v Speaker 2>this text chain. Okay, hold on, how we just find this?
<v Speaker 1>Hell, yes she is if people don't remember, I think
<v Speaker 1>she chose it as her her Giant Bomb moment. I
<v Speaker 1>think that's right. She did like the Giant Bomb sixteen stuff,
<v Speaker 1>so you can go find that on social or whatever.
<v Speaker 1>But it's the moment when she did select the point
<v Speaker 1>that the thing in Mario Party, which I still don't
<v Speaker 1>really understand. She's like, I'm gonna choose this thing to
<v Speaker 1>not get a star now because then I'll get a
<v Speaker 1>bonus star later and that'll get me more in the end,
<v Speaker 1>so I have a chance of winning. And then she
<v Speaker 1>ended up winning, and it was the most pro style
<v Speaker 1>move I've ever seen anyone doing a Mario Party. Maybe
<v Speaker 1>ever really think that the game might be a game
<v Speaker 1>of skill.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on, hold time, Sorry, I forget where we
<v Speaker 2>were talking about this. Are you available for a long
<v Speaker 2>Mario Party stream with grub, Mikey, and Dan in the
<v Speaker 2>evening of October seventeenth. That's a day I get back
<v Speaker 2>from the blah blah blah thing.
<v Speaker 1>Oh fine, I.
<v Speaker 2>Want to play Mario Party so bad? What time is
<v Speaker 2>the stream going to be I could get back in time, LMO.
<v Speaker 2>It's cool, dude. We wouldn't want to want you to rush.
<v Speaker 2>We were playing on doing it at night. I'm literally
<v Speaker 2>picking my flight back now. Lots of them have me
<v Speaker 2>landing in Burbank early afternoon. Okay, okay, I'm getting into
<v Speaker 2>Burbank a little bit before five, so I'll probably be
<v Speaker 2>ready to be on camera by six if that's not
<v Speaker 2>too late.
<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly when we're starting. Everybody six pm Pacific time,
<v Speaker 1>nine pm Eastern Mario Party Party for Mario Party Jamboree. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to it. Grub, who are you going
<v Speaker 1>to be? I'm gonna be WALLOWEGI.
<v Speaker 2>We also had a further discussion about like, hey, like,
<v Speaker 2>you know what if Dan.
<v Speaker 1>Picks Wallowigi and she was she said like, I'm not
<v Speaker 1>gonna fucking let him. Well, he said he's not gonna
<v Speaker 1>let her. So if you're if you want to be
<v Speaker 1>there immediately for two people who won't back down from
<v Speaker 1>one another, is that if that sounds like a good
<v Speaker 1>time to you, because it doesn't to me. Necessarily, you're
<v Speaker 1>not gonna want to miss it. It's not necessarily like
<v Speaker 1>watching your parents fight. I don't have siblings, so maybe
<v Speaker 1>it's similar to what this is, because definitely watching these
<v Speaker 1>two argue all through Germany and spell and yell at me,
<v Speaker 1>grub yell at me. Yeah, well, we're having a fun
<v Speaker 1>time at night by a river and yelling at me
<v Speaker 1>to say more spelling words to them. It's not fun.
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, I'm sure. I hope it's entertaining for everyone else.
<v Speaker 1>Dan Chap said, one, if she's not there, by'mfe check
<v Speaker 1>she forfeits, and two he won. I think he's referring
<v Speaker 1>to the spelling thing, but he's not referring to the
<v Speaker 1>actual spelling bee that we did on air because he
<v Speaker 1>lost that, although I'm sure he'll say you want that too.
<v Speaker 1>All Right. The point is Mario Party Party Live on
<v Speaker 1>Giant Bomb tonight. I had to rearrange my podcast in schedules.
<v Speaker 1>I got to move another one earlier to night so
<v Speaker 1>we can make time for that. But gonna be a
<v Speaker 1>busy day. We'll get into it, looking forward to it.
<v Speaker 1>Let's wrap up this show so we can get ready
<v Speaker 1>for Xbox. Poll question are you faster than a games
<v Speaker 1>journalist and astrabot? Your options were no, and thirty six
<v Speaker 1>percent responded to that, and no, sixty four percent responded
<v Speaker 1>to that. Get good, everybody, come on, come on, get good. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that guy, he's still running over there. I'm really excited
<v Speaker 1>about it, submitting this hour plus time. I can't wait.
<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, let's see new poll question. Are you
<v Speaker 1>getting the two hundred and fifty dollars four k in
<v Speaker 1>sixty four recreation from analog? Yes or no are your options.
<v Speaker 1>We will get the results of that. Talk about on
<v Speaker 1>Game US Mornings. You're on Giant Bomb tomorrow speaking a
<v Speaker 1>giant bomb. As Jen said, Xbox here pretty soon, boy smail,
<v Speaker 1>dumb truck. A lot of stuff still happening. Tune in
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of today, all that good stuff, more
<v Speaker 1>fun stuff tomorrow. In the meantime, though, Jan at Chowa,
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for hanging out with me today
<v Speaker 1>and talking about video games. Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 1>It's the only way to start at Thursday, Greb, thank
<v Speaker 1>you all for listening, Thank you all for watching. You're
<v Speaker 1>the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a
<v Speaker 1>good one, Take care of yourself, get back on that
<v Speaker 1>back foot and go goodbye.