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Pushkin. Hello Stevie, Hey, hang on a second, let me 0:00:25.930 --> 0:00:32.890 get Kaylee. Hello, Kalila, Hi, Hey. 0:00:32.930 --> 0:00:35.610 Hello, Happy Thanksgiving everyone. 0:00:36.370 --> 0:00:37.330 How was Thanksgiving? 0:00:38.050 --> 0:00:40.729 Well, as you guys know, I was planning to take 0:00:40.930 --> 0:00:42.129 a long trip home. 0:00:42.450 --> 0:00:44.889 You were going to go see your mom in Chicago 0:00:45.129 --> 0:00:46.570 and your dad in Iowa. 0:00:46.930 --> 0:00:49.090 Yes, I was going to go for like a long 0:00:49.330 --> 0:00:52.129 stretch over the holidays on the train. 0:00:52.409 --> 0:00:55.569 On the train, yeah, in a sleeper car, in a 0:00:55.610 --> 0:00:58.730 sleeper car, yes, which you've never done, which I've never done. 0:00:58.730 --> 0:01:00.289 And my boyfriend was going to come with me and 0:01:00.330 --> 0:01:04.690 meet my family. And I ended up canceling it last 0:01:04.770 --> 0:01:10.610 minute because of you know, COVID you ever heard of it? 0:01:13.090 --> 0:01:15.770 But I think then I realized how much the past 0:01:15.810 --> 0:01:18.410 couple months I had been holding on to like, oh, well, 0:01:18.450 --> 0:01:20.370 in November, I'm going to travel and that'll be like 0:01:20.450 --> 0:01:22.970 something different. And then as soon as I was faced 0:01:22.970 --> 0:01:25.250 with the prospect of just staying in my apartment and 0:01:25.290 --> 0:01:28.410 continuing to do the same stuff, I got very depressed. 0:01:28.570 --> 0:01:30.090 When's the last time you saw your mom? 0:01:31.610 --> 0:01:34.610 It was now over a year ago. This is also 0:01:34.690 --> 0:01:37.650 the first Thanksgiving of my entire life that I've not 0:01:37.770 --> 0:01:41.330 been with my mom. So I was feeling sad about that. 0:01:43.170 --> 0:01:45.810 There's this crab dip that I make every year for 0:01:45.890 --> 0:01:49.130 Thanksgiving that I used to make with my grandma when 0:01:49.170 --> 0:01:52.930 I was a kid, and then when my grandma died, 0:01:53.250 --> 0:01:55.010 it was just like the thing that I would make 0:01:55.050 --> 0:01:59.050 and bring to Thanksgiving. It's not Thanksgiving without crab dip. 0:01:59.570 --> 0:02:02.930 So my mom suggested we each make the crab dip 0:02:03.050 --> 0:02:05.250 separately and then we could get on a zoom and 0:02:05.290 --> 0:02:14.850 eat it together. I have nice crab. Do you care 0:02:14.889 --> 0:02:15.770 if I start crying? 0:02:16.490 --> 0:02:19.610 No, I did. I haven't seen you in so long, 0:02:19.690 --> 0:02:22.970 and it's just really good to see you. No, you 0:02:23.050 --> 0:02:24.130 were good, honey. 0:02:25.050 --> 0:02:27.290 And my mom also mailed me some of the stuff 0:02:27.330 --> 0:02:29.010 for the crab dip to make sure that I had 0:02:29.050 --> 0:02:33.850 all the ingredients I needed, which was very nice. And 0:02:33.890 --> 0:02:36.370 we ate our crab dip at the same time. All right, 0:02:36.410 --> 0:02:38.610 I'm ready, Okay, wait till we get my chip. 0:02:39.530 --> 0:02:41.930 Okay, tip away, all right. 0:02:41.930 --> 0:02:51.850 I'm dipped, me too, said like, what we were thankful for, 0:02:51.930 --> 0:02:55.850 which is something we try to do every years. Yeah, 0:02:55.890 --> 0:03:03.329 I'm thankful for you. I'm thankful for you. Just made 0:03:03.370 --> 0:03:06.850 me feel connected in a time that was feeling kind 0:03:06.850 --> 0:03:08.250 of isolated. 0:03:08.370 --> 0:03:16.570 So I'm for that, Stevie. How how was how was 0:03:16.610 --> 0:03:17.370 your Thanksgiving? 0:03:18.330 --> 0:03:18.410 So? 0:03:19.210 --> 0:03:22.450 Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. All you have to do 0:03:22.650 --> 0:03:26.690 is like eat and be pleasant, Like what could be better? 0:03:27.450 --> 0:03:31.290 But this year I did not go home, and a 0:03:31.410 --> 0:03:34.770 number of my friends here in Brooklyn also weren't going home, 0:03:34.810 --> 0:03:37.570 and so I was like, well, why don't I host 0:03:37.610 --> 0:03:42.010 Thanksgiving this year? And probably because it's been so long 0:03:42.090 --> 0:03:43.890 since I've been able to cook for people, which is 0:03:43.890 --> 0:03:46.610 something that I love to do. I was like so 0:03:46.850 --> 0:03:50.370 excited and had like everything ready and stage so it'd 0:03:50.450 --> 0:03:54.170 be done exactly when everyone showed up, and I was like, 0:03:54.170 --> 0:03:56.930 like I felt like a puppy waiting for like its 0:03:57.050 --> 0:03:58.570 owners to come home from vacation. 0:03:58.730 --> 0:04:02.170 Like I was just like waiting by the bell. 0:04:03.530 --> 0:04:04.290 Huah. 0:04:04.330 --> 0:04:06.450 I was like, you're here, Okay, Yeah, come on up, 0:04:07.610 --> 0:04:12.450 so overeat go about it a Thanksgiving. 0:04:13.370 --> 0:04:18.129 Every Thanksgiving we did it outside on my roof. 0:04:20.729 --> 0:04:22.409 Oh nice, it was a nice day. 0:04:22.890 --> 0:04:24.689 It was such a nice day. It was so warm. 0:04:24.849 --> 0:04:28.210 We were like really lucky with the weather. I need 0:04:28.330 --> 0:04:29.209 a ton of food. 0:04:29.289 --> 0:04:31.969 I pretended. I was like cooking for like twelve people. 0:04:32.369 --> 0:04:38.129 Wow, I don't know, Like there was so much planning 0:04:38.210 --> 0:04:39.970 that went into doing that responsibly. 0:04:40.010 --> 0:04:41.889 It's like we all got tested. 0:04:41.489 --> 0:04:45.329 And we're quarantining, and like it was like group email 0:04:45.369 --> 0:04:48.729 after group email after group email talking about like your 0:04:48.770 --> 0:04:50.529 negative test and like when you got it and how 0:04:50.570 --> 0:04:52.049 you're not going to see people. And it was like 0:04:52.810 --> 0:04:56.009 a lot of work, honestly to make everybody feel comfortable. 0:04:56.010 --> 0:04:58.010 But I don't know, I. 0:04:57.890 --> 0:05:00.169 Was just really grateful that everybody was willing to sort 0:05:00.210 --> 0:05:02.690 of like make it happen. 0:05:03.849 --> 0:05:08.450 It felt even more special this year. I guess, Okay, 0:05:08.450 --> 0:05:09.929 well I have this pie. 0:05:10.010 --> 0:05:12.369 It's apple and onion and through year. 0:05:12.929 --> 0:05:15.049 But also if we have snacks and we don't want 0:05:15.089 --> 0:05:15.969 to fill up, we don't have to. 0:05:16.489 --> 0:05:20.129 Yeah, I do want to go out, but I do 0:05:20.210 --> 0:05:20.529 think we. 0:05:20.450 --> 0:05:20.969 Should need that. 0:05:36.489 --> 0:05:39.050 What about you, Jonathan, what did How was your Thanksgiving? 0:05:39.609 --> 0:05:41.409 It was fun? I mean it was just me and 0:05:41.450 --> 0:05:45.769 Emily and Augie. I do it Paki. 0:05:47.450 --> 0:05:47.650 Yeah. 0:05:47.650 --> 0:05:50.049 Oki was really excited about all the different foods. He was. 0:05:50.650 --> 0:05:53.210 He was very curious about what stuffing was. He had 0:05:53.250 --> 0:05:58.330 never had stuffing. That was a lively conversation. I like 0:05:58.609 --> 0:06:02.849 a staffine. Uh stuff, Well, yeah, it's stuff that you 0:06:02.929 --> 0:06:06.690 stuff inside the turkey. You don't really do that anymore. 0:06:06.810 --> 0:06:08.969 That's you're out of fast. 0:06:09.210 --> 0:06:11.009 What do you mean you don't stuff a turkey anymore. 0:06:11.729 --> 0:06:14.770 It's just sort of like robbing this turkey of his dignity. 0:06:15.810 --> 0:06:19.409 So you think that that the turkey killing the turkey, 0:06:19.570 --> 0:06:23.409 that doesn't rob it of its But setting that aside, 0:06:23.450 --> 0:06:25.330 you feel at least like, well, you know. 0:06:25.570 --> 0:06:28.729 He gave somebody a good meal, and we can respect. 0:06:29.690 --> 0:06:33.969 I asked Aggie what he was grateful for. Hm, he's 0:06:34.049 --> 0:06:35.890 going to be four in a couple of days. So 0:06:36.010 --> 0:06:37.809 half of like the things that he says is like 0:06:37.890 --> 0:06:40.089 really kind of like sweet and profound, and the other 0:06:40.169 --> 0:06:44.529 half is this complete nonsense like you was saying, Like 0:06:44.529 --> 0:06:46.210 we asked him what he was grateful for, and he 0:06:46.289 --> 0:06:50.570 was like Mama and Papa and my family. But then 0:06:50.609 --> 0:06:52.609 in the same breath as he's doing this list, he's 0:06:52.650 --> 0:06:54.089 like kidding, King Kou. 0:06:55.729 --> 0:06:56.089 What's that. 0:06:57.049 --> 0:06:59.770 There's a series of books called Sweet Pickles where there's 0:06:59.810 --> 0:07:03.289 like all these different characters like worried Walris and fix 0:07:03.369 --> 0:07:08.489 It Camel kidding Kangaroo's this irredeemable jerk. All he does 0:07:08.529 --> 0:07:11.610 is mean pranks on people. And I try to explain 0:07:11.690 --> 0:07:14.369 to Augie about how like the lesson to learn here 0:07:14.450 --> 0:07:16.410 is that, like, if you do something mean and then 0:07:16.450 --> 0:07:18.650 say it's a joke, it doesn't make it funny. But 0:07:18.730 --> 0:07:23.929 he thinks kidding Kangaroo is great, and we spent some 0:07:24.050 --> 0:07:26.810 of the night trying to get into look inside his heart. No, 0:07:27.130 --> 0:07:32.170 you cannot, Yes you have. You have to close your 0:07:32.170 --> 0:07:36.329 eyes and think about what you really thankful. 0:07:35.890 --> 0:07:38.450 For, right, hope, for everything. 0:07:39.410 --> 0:07:40.369 And whole family. 0:07:42.210 --> 0:07:45.129 I'm kidding ingoo and everything. 0:07:45.090 --> 0:07:54.369 In Kangaroo's funny. I love kidding Gangaro. You know you 0:07:54.410 --> 0:07:58.330 know what I'm giving? Thanks for what? And always not 0:07:58.410 --> 0:08:03.369 just Thanksgiving Day but every day us Well, no to 0:08:03.450 --> 0:08:08.489 our sponsors and to you. Sure, yes, but fundamentally it's 0:08:08.489 --> 0:08:11.530 the sponsor because they're the ones that allow us to 0:08:11.570 --> 0:08:16.450 pay for our microphone batteries. So let's pay homage to them, 0:08:16.489 --> 0:08:32.970 shall we. I wanted to talk about music. Sure, let's 0:08:33.010 --> 0:08:36.690 have a conversation about music. Do you like music? 0:08:38.130 --> 0:08:38.330 Yeah? 0:08:38.410 --> 0:08:38.770 I do? 0:08:40.050 --> 0:08:42.930 Controversial, Stevie, Do you like music? 0:08:43.330 --> 0:08:45.690 I mean, I guess I don't actually have like very 0:08:45.730 --> 0:08:47.250 strong feelings about music. 0:08:47.490 --> 0:08:50.930 Seems like we have ourselves a real point counterpoint situation here. 0:08:53.210 --> 0:08:56.850 This conversation about music reminds me of a conversation about 0:08:56.930 --> 0:08:59.730 music that I just was having just the other day 0:08:59.770 --> 0:09:03.210 with my friend Gregor. You like music, I like music. 0:09:03.410 --> 0:09:06.130 I like the way you ease your interview subject into 0:09:06.130 --> 0:09:09.890 the interview with softball questions to begin with. I actually 0:09:10.290 --> 0:09:11.890 I've been giving a lot of thought to music lately 0:09:12.090 --> 0:09:15.370 because music was this really important thing in my life, 0:09:15.690 --> 0:09:19.450 and it still is. But I think isn't isn't as 0:09:19.530 --> 0:09:22.770 much in my kids' lives as my own. After school, 0:09:22.810 --> 0:09:25.050 it would be these rumbles between sort of two teams 0:09:25.050 --> 0:09:28.570 of boys fighting each other about the Stones versus the Who, 0:09:29.170 --> 0:09:31.490 and you just get in there and beat the hell 0:09:31.610 --> 0:09:32.130 up each. 0:09:31.930 --> 0:09:35.290 Other and again, like nowadays, it seems as though young 0:09:35.370 --> 0:09:38.570 people can like a vast array of things, whereas before, 0:09:38.770 --> 0:09:41.210 like we wasted so much time pulling our hair out 0:09:41.290 --> 0:09:43.530 over you know, the Beatles or the rolling Stones. 0:09:43.850 --> 0:09:46.770 That's obviously why our generation is bald and younger people 0:09:46.810 --> 0:09:47.570 have much more hair. 0:09:47.930 --> 0:09:48.650 They really do. 0:09:48.890 --> 0:09:51.650 Yeah, my kids are into like DM and not even 0:09:51.850 --> 0:09:54.010 passionate about it. They're just I'm like, oh, what are 0:09:54.010 --> 0:09:55.770 you listening to? And he's like, oh, just DM. Not 0:09:55.810 --> 0:09:57.570 even like a song or a name or an artist. 0:09:57.650 --> 0:09:59.050 It's just that's what they're listening to. 0:10:01.050 --> 0:10:09.650 I don't know, but there's a character that was Yeah, 0:10:08.530 --> 0:10:10.690 well that was upsetting. 0:10:11.370 --> 0:10:14.010 Sounded like a tea kettle boiling. He got me all 0:10:14.050 --> 0:10:16.250 off track. The point is, even to my own ears, 0:10:16.250 --> 0:10:18.690 it sounds all tinny and funny when I'm like, there 0:10:18.770 --> 0:10:20.850 used to be a man named Eric Clapton, and he 0:10:20.970 --> 0:10:23.170 used to play cover songs and people called him a god, 0:10:23.650 --> 0:10:24.690 and they're like, oh cool. 0:10:24.970 --> 0:10:28.170 People used to write graffiti. I remember on the school 0:10:28.250 --> 0:10:31.930 wall that said Eric Clapton is God, right, Like people 0:10:32.010 --> 0:10:35.130 risk their lives to actually spray paint that. They'd go 0:10:35.250 --> 0:10:37.450 on top of the roof of the gym and hang 0:10:37.570 --> 0:10:40.330 down and write it several stories off the ground. 0:10:40.450 --> 0:10:42.330 Yeah, it was everywhere, and people would scratch it into 0:10:42.330 --> 0:10:45.210 notebooks and it was a whole tribal identification with Eric Clapton. 0:10:45.290 --> 0:10:48.010 But in my band, this is the point I'm trying 0:10:48.010 --> 0:10:49.930 to make to you. We played the song Cocaine. 0:10:50.050 --> 0:10:54.010 Wait, hang on a second, what about this band? Just yeah, 0:10:54.290 --> 0:10:55.010 you had a band? 0:10:55.170 --> 0:10:56.250 Yeah? 0:10:56.610 --> 0:10:58.050 Why this is the first I'm hearing of this. 0:10:58.090 --> 0:11:00.050 I was in a band for about fifteen years. 0:11:00.170 --> 0:11:01.210 What was the name of the band? 0:11:01.450 --> 0:11:02.970 I've had different names over the years. 0:11:03.010 --> 0:11:04.210 But what were some of the names. 0:11:05.490 --> 0:11:06.890 I can't even remember these names. 0:11:07.130 --> 0:11:07.770 I know you can. 0:11:11.210 --> 0:11:12.809 The first name of the band, which is probably the 0:11:12.850 --> 0:11:15.650 most embarrassing name, was shadow Facts, named after the horse 0:11:15.770 --> 0:11:17.850 in Lord of the Rings. 0:11:18.290 --> 0:11:21.290 Shadow Facts. So it's like a do you guys like 0:11:21.370 --> 0:11:22.770 do like songs in Elvish? 0:11:23.450 --> 0:11:28.370 Yes? We did songs in Elvish. 0:11:28.410 --> 0:11:30.809 It's been uh, it's been nice chatting with you. 0:11:30.890 --> 0:11:31.930 It's been really interesting. 0:11:32.730 --> 0:11:32.930 You know. 0:11:33.010 --> 0:11:34.850 I'm not sure that it gets us, but I always 0:11:34.930 --> 0:11:35.810 enjoy our talks. 0:11:36.490 --> 0:11:38.050 Who is this character? 0:11:38.130 --> 0:11:42.970 This is everyone I have ever talked to. Yeah, I 0:11:43.010 --> 0:11:46.170 can't say that you're what you're going to consider you 0:11:46.250 --> 0:11:49.090 for this, but I enjoyed our talk really interesting. 0:11:59.450 --> 0:12:01.730 It's always interesting talking to Gregor. 0:12:03.370 --> 0:12:03.450 No. 0:12:03.570 --> 0:12:07.010 But I mean, but seriously, though, does that seem true 0:12:07.610 --> 0:12:13.090 that your generation, that you guys don't feel as defined 0:12:13.170 --> 0:12:16.530 by your choices in music like you can like all 0:12:16.610 --> 0:12:17.130 the music? 0:12:17.690 --> 0:12:19.450 I think when we were younger, though, I remember like 0:12:19.530 --> 0:12:22.330 Backstreet Boys versus Sync being a big. 0:12:23.610 --> 0:12:25.170 And which were you guys? 0:12:25.410 --> 0:12:27.530 I said I was a Backstreet Boys, But then like 0:12:27.570 --> 0:12:29.650 a couple of years out, I was like, why did 0:12:29.690 --> 0:12:31.850 I think that? Because in Sync's music is way. 0:12:31.650 --> 0:12:33.930 Better KAYLEI, I'm the same way. 0:12:34.010 --> 0:12:36.650 I think really, like, yes, I think that I had 0:12:36.690 --> 0:12:39.570 a vague awareness that like maybe it was like cooler 0:12:39.650 --> 0:12:42.810 to say you like the Backstreet Boys, but like I 0:12:42.850 --> 0:12:45.730 couldn't even name the Backstreep Boys song and like in 0:12:45.890 --> 0:12:47.170 sync is what I listened to. 0:12:47.770 --> 0:12:59.330 Yeah, during Quarantine, I've been spending a lot more time 0:12:59.410 --> 0:13:01.329 listening to music with Aggie. 0:13:01.810 --> 0:13:03.650 What kind of stuff were you guys listening to? 0:13:04.570 --> 0:13:06.010 Just a lot of music that I liked when I 0:13:06.090 --> 0:13:10.130 was a kid. I played him a clashes should I 0:13:10.170 --> 0:13:12.610 stay or should I go? For the first time a 0:13:12.610 --> 0:13:16.290 little while ago, and after every song I was asked 0:13:16.610 --> 0:13:21.930 what do you think? And like after stay shot, he 0:13:22.050 --> 0:13:24.930 was just silent, and I was like, Oggie, like what 0:13:24.930 --> 0:13:27.330 what do you think? And he's just like looking off 0:13:27.370 --> 0:13:29.570 into the distance, and then he says I think he 0:13:29.610 --> 0:13:34.809 should stay, and I was like, oh yeah, and he's 0:13:34.850 --> 0:13:37.770 like yeah, Like he was like, it's it's easy, it's easier. 0:13:38.250 --> 0:13:40.090 I think he was just imagining how hard it is 0:13:40.130 --> 0:13:42.690 for him to go anywhere, especially like now in the 0:13:42.730 --> 0:13:46.130 winter in Minnesota, to put on his snowsuit and his boots. 0:13:46.490 --> 0:13:49.170 To him, it was just like a referendum on whether 0:13:49.290 --> 0:13:52.930 you should go outside in the cold or stay inside 0:13:52.930 --> 0:13:54.490 and eat snacks, and he was like, yeah, no, I 0:13:54.490 --> 0:13:55.290 think he should stay. 0:13:56.970 --> 0:14:00.130 I when I was a little kid, like younger than Augie, 0:14:00.170 --> 0:14:02.450 like really like an infant to my dad used to 0:14:02.490 --> 0:14:05.930 whenever I was crying, he would play can't touch this, 0:14:06.970 --> 0:14:11.330 and then I would stop crying. Oh yeah, you would 0:14:11.370 --> 0:14:15.090 like pick me up and dance around and oh yeah. 0:14:15.090 --> 0:14:22.810 That's really that's very sweet, look at my heart. Did 0:14:22.890 --> 0:14:25.010 you guys have the experience of making mixtapes. 0:14:25.650 --> 0:14:27.650 Oh, I only ever made mixed CDs. 0:14:28.530 --> 0:14:33.970 I used to make mixtapes like but recording off the radio, 0:14:34.690 --> 0:14:36.930 so I would have to hold the tape recorder mike 0:14:37.290 --> 0:14:40.570 up to the speaker of a radio, so my father, 0:14:40.730 --> 0:14:42.370 like you would hear my father yelling in. 0:14:42.330 --> 0:14:46.490 The background, I made a mix. I used to just 0:14:46.530 --> 0:14:48.690 make a lot of mixes in high school in general, 0:14:48.730 --> 0:14:50.690 And I remember I had this amazing idea where I 0:14:50.730 --> 0:14:52.170 was like, it would be so cool to make a 0:14:52.210 --> 0:14:56.530 mix where the first letter of each song spells like 0:14:56.730 --> 0:14:58.610 will you go to prom with me? And you could 0:14:58.650 --> 0:15:00.970 give it to someone to ask them to prom. So 0:15:01.090 --> 0:15:04.570 I made it, like years before even my prom would 0:15:04.610 --> 0:15:07.010 have happened. And then like I didn't ask anyone to 0:15:07.010 --> 0:15:08.850 prom and I never used it for anything. 0:15:09.370 --> 0:15:11.850 Do you remember what the songs were that you used 0:15:11.850 --> 0:15:12.490 for the letters? 0:15:13.130 --> 0:15:16.210 Honestly, I probably have it on my old computer. I 0:15:16.250 --> 0:15:16.730 can look. 0:15:17.810 --> 0:15:19.930 You gotta like find an occasion to go to a 0:15:19.970 --> 0:15:20.970 prom to use that. 0:15:22.170 --> 0:15:24.090 I think any occasion in which I'd now go to 0:15:24.090 --> 0:15:26.290 a prom would be creepy. 0:15:26.170 --> 0:15:27.610 Grounds for legal action. 0:15:28.290 --> 0:15:33.170 Yeah, oh yeah, so like I have Under the Bridge 0:15:33.330 --> 0:15:37.210 by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. If you guys know 0:15:37.290 --> 0:15:43.970 that song gold Lion the yeah, yeah, yeahs if you 0:15:44.010 --> 0:15:45.010 guys remember that. 0:15:44.970 --> 0:15:48.730 Song, It's gonna tell me what a lot is? 0:15:52.050 --> 0:15:54.370 Piatza New York Catcher is the p and prom. 0:15:54.530 --> 0:16:00.250 Johnson will play Piazza. I'll catch your you straight? Are Uka? 0:16:02.490 --> 0:16:05.650 I want you to want me cheap trick? That's the 0:16:05.690 --> 0:16:14.330 I and with what's the m The emin prom is 0:16:14.810 --> 0:16:18.290 Marching Bands of Manhattan by Death Cab for Cutie. 0:16:18.530 --> 0:16:21.250 What foreign Marching bands? 0:16:21.530 --> 0:16:21.890 Large? 0:16:22.450 --> 0:16:27.290 Can you sing it? I can't, Stevie, can you? 0:16:27.330 --> 0:16:27.490 No? 0:16:27.610 --> 0:16:30.810 I don't actually know that song, which, like this is 0:16:30.850 --> 0:16:33.970 actually an experience I have often I never know the 0:16:34.050 --> 0:16:37.050 songs that people are talking about, Like even growing up, 0:16:38.250 --> 0:16:41.010 I have this like very distinct memory of being in 0:16:41.130 --> 0:16:45.650 my friend's house and they put on that Maroon five 0:16:45.850 --> 0:16:46.730 song This Love. 0:16:46.890 --> 0:16:47.810 Do you remember that song? 0:16:48.290 --> 0:16:49.090 Yeah? 0:16:49.090 --> 0:16:51.450 I'm like they all knew all the words and they 0:16:51.450 --> 0:16:55.050 were like, you know, singing along to it, and I 0:16:55.130 --> 0:16:56.970 had never heard it before, and I had like no 0:16:57.090 --> 0:16:58.330 idea what was going on. 0:16:58.810 --> 0:17:01.010 And I felt like shame about it. 0:17:01.090 --> 0:17:04.889 And I went home and like listened to that song 0:17:05.010 --> 0:17:07.850 on repeat because I was like, it felt really important 0:17:07.850 --> 0:17:20.450 that I learn it. 0:17:24.129 --> 0:17:27.330 Hey, you mind if I switch gears here for a moment? 0:17:27.929 --> 0:17:28.169 Sure? 0:17:28.970 --> 0:17:33.090 Do you guys? Ever, I'm just wondering if this is 0:17:33.129 --> 0:17:37.369 something that other people do, But do you ever think 0:17:37.409 --> 0:17:40.010 about like what songs you would like to be played 0:17:40.010 --> 0:17:44.009 at your funeral? Like it's very self indulgent feeling, Like 0:17:44.050 --> 0:17:46.010 it's just like when I'm in a very like self 0:17:46.010 --> 0:17:48.649 indulgent kind of mood, which is often, I'm thinking that 0:17:48.689 --> 0:17:50.769 would be a good song really make everyone cry and 0:17:50.810 --> 0:17:51.369 think about me. 0:17:53.169 --> 0:17:54.489 Yeah, I don't know if I have a do you 0:17:54.490 --> 0:17:55.730 have like a go to answer? 0:17:56.250 --> 0:17:58.449 Yeah? What's your go to funeral song? 0:17:58.889 --> 0:18:00.889 I actually have like a little bit of a playlist 0:18:01.050 --> 0:18:03.330 in my head, so I think, like, do you know 0:18:03.369 --> 0:18:07.929 that song? That Groucho Mark song, Hello, I must be going, 0:18:09.090 --> 0:18:13.969 oh shockingly, hello, I must be going. I'm here to 0:18:14.010 --> 0:18:15.290 say I cannot stay. 0:18:15.609 --> 0:18:16.530 I cannot stay. 0:18:17.369 --> 0:18:19.889 And I think that would be kind of sweet people, 0:18:19.889 --> 0:18:20.770 would you know. 0:18:21.209 --> 0:18:26.290 Yeah, Jonathan, if I may be so bold as to produce. 0:18:26.129 --> 0:18:28.249 Your funeral, please God willing. 0:18:28.530 --> 0:18:30.609 What if at the end of the whole thing, you know, 0:18:30.689 --> 0:18:33.490 they were like, well, we just want to thank everybody 0:18:33.530 --> 0:18:37.010 for coming and whatever, and then you could have a 0:18:37.050 --> 0:18:41.810 son in an empty room come in and really. 0:18:40.730 --> 0:18:44.009 It should be like literally, like the person gives the 0:18:44.050 --> 0:18:46.689 eulogy and like right as they finished speaking, it's like, 0:18:46.889 --> 0:18:47.450 but I'm. 0:18:47.850 --> 0:18:52.529 Exactly, I'm glad. I'm glad that the idea of my 0:18:52.570 --> 0:18:56.689 funeral is so amusing to you both. What would be 0:18:56.770 --> 0:18:59.489 the most disrespectful, Like, let's say you were planning the 0:18:59.490 --> 0:19:00.649 funeral for someone you hated. 0:19:02.209 --> 0:19:04.609 I think the most disrespectful would be like that song 0:19:04.649 --> 0:19:07.530 that used to play on the six Flags commercial. 0:19:11.530 --> 0:19:18.409 Dancing ball Uh yeah, yeah? 0:19:18.449 --> 0:19:21.570 What about the worst song to be playing at your 0:19:21.689 --> 0:19:22.890 failed engagement? 0:19:23.449 --> 0:19:26.929 Like you propose, but the person says. 0:19:26.770 --> 0:19:30.050 No, and then all of a sudden, the mariachi band 0:19:30.090 --> 0:19:33.130 shows up and like strikes up that song they pay 0:19:33.209 --> 0:19:36.250 them money to play. 0:19:37.609 --> 0:19:39.049 In that kids. I feel like it would just be 0:19:39.090 --> 0:19:42.090 like a good like classic like she Loves You or something, 0:19:42.209 --> 0:19:45.730 you know, like. 0:19:45.730 --> 0:19:46.209 She loves you. 0:19:46.290 --> 0:19:49.649 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but she's walking. 0:19:49.290 --> 0:19:52.290 Away and you can't get the Mariachi Bland to stop 0:19:52.330 --> 0:19:52.810 playing it. 0:19:54.369 --> 0:19:56.649 They're just following you. Chase after and they follow you. 0:20:01.250 --> 0:20:04.050 How about I got a feeling that tonight's gonna be 0:20:04.090 --> 0:20:04.930 a good night. 0:20:09.490 --> 0:20:16.729 Nights, going good night n nights? What about the worst 0:20:16.770 --> 0:20:19.090 song to walk down the aisle? 0:20:19.169 --> 0:20:22.129 Too? Like, instead of here comes the Bride, you want 0:20:22.129 --> 0:20:25.409 to do something a little, a little little less typical. 0:20:25.810 --> 0:20:28.489 I feel like, again that six Flag song would be 0:20:28.609 --> 0:20:29.369 pretty bad. 0:20:30.810 --> 0:20:31.409 Oh my god. 0:20:31.449 --> 0:20:34.010 The horn and you actually you're honking a horn while 0:20:34.010 --> 0:20:34.929 you walk down the aisle. 0:20:53.169 --> 0:20:57.649 Hey, you know, if were you guys enjoying all of 0:20:57.689 --> 0:21:00.369 this music that I was spinning for you guys as 0:21:00.369 --> 0:21:00.810 we were. 0:21:00.649 --> 0:21:02.769 Talking, Yeah, I felt like I was at the club. 0:21:04.449 --> 0:21:07.649 You know, if people out there enjoyed those songs and 0:21:07.730 --> 0:21:10.290 want to relive the memories, they could go to the 0:21:10.330 --> 0:21:12.450 Spotify playlist that we created. 0:21:12.970 --> 0:21:16.570 That's right, Yeah, we'll put a link in the show description. 0:21:17.010 --> 0:21:23.290 It's called Goldstein's Way Cool Playlist. It's called Goldstein's far 0:21:23.409 --> 0:21:29.329 out Hits. No, it's called Goldstein's Party, party faves it is. 0:21:29.409 --> 0:21:30.449 That is what it's called. 0:21:30.530 --> 0:21:38.209 To get the party going. Yeah, you know, speaking of music, 0:21:39.449 --> 0:21:46.090 I spoke to a man named Glenn. His mom, Madeline, 0:21:46.169 --> 0:21:48.929 is ninety four years old, and a couple of months ago, 0:21:49.290 --> 0:21:52.209 she was moving from the house that she lived in 0:21:52.250 --> 0:21:56.009 for many years into a smaller apartment, and during the 0:21:56.090 --> 0:22:00.609 move she came across this box full of seventy eights, 0:22:00.929 --> 0:22:06.210 this long forgotten box of these records of her singing 0:22:06.770 --> 0:22:08.169 when she was just twenty years old. 0:22:08.409 --> 0:22:08.609 Wow. 0:22:08.850 --> 0:22:14.570 Yeah, this is back in nineteen forty six. And Glenn 0:22:14.770 --> 0:22:17.249 was telling me that when his mom was young, she 0:22:17.330 --> 0:22:20.009 loved to sing, but since her family was so poor, 0:22:20.929 --> 0:22:22.969 she had to give up the prospect of having a 0:22:23.010 --> 0:22:25.609 singing career in order to support her family. 0:22:26.369 --> 0:22:32.410 They were really, really poor. My grandparents were Russian immigrants. 0:22:32.770 --> 0:22:37.209 My grandfather couldn't read or write. He sold bananas on 0:22:37.730 --> 0:22:38.730 a push cart, that. 0:22:38.770 --> 0:22:39.570 Was what he did. 0:22:40.970 --> 0:22:45.010 Things are tough, you know, like a birthday gift sometimes 0:22:45.129 --> 0:22:48.330 was like a piece of fruit. Yeah, I mean, that's 0:22:48.369 --> 0:22:52.209 how bad things were. And then my grandmother was raising 0:22:52.290 --> 0:22:56.449 five kids and my mother. She loved to sing, and 0:22:56.449 --> 0:22:59.770 that was wonderful. But there was a certain reality to life, 0:22:59.970 --> 0:23:00.409 you know. 0:23:00.889 --> 0:23:03.689 When you took these records out and you played them 0:23:03.730 --> 0:23:06.250 for the first time. Even that might have been a trick, 0:23:06.369 --> 0:23:08.530 right to find a record player and one that played 0:23:08.530 --> 0:23:10.970 at the seventies. It's exactly correct. 0:23:11.409 --> 0:23:14.369 We finally found somebody who had a record player that 0:23:14.449 --> 0:23:18.889 could play seventy eights. And when I heard him, oh 0:23:18.929 --> 0:23:23.889 my goodness, it was wonderful, my mother said, She asked meatesaid, 0:23:23.929 --> 0:23:26.929 the last time she had listened to the discs or 0:23:26.970 --> 0:23:31.969 maybe sixty sixty five years ago, just absolutely incredible to 0:23:32.449 --> 0:23:34.689 hear her sing at the age of twenty. 0:23:34.929 --> 0:23:38.609 In listening to the songs for the first time. It 0:23:38.689 --> 0:23:40.570 was a tinged with a little bit of sadness for 0:23:40.649 --> 0:23:41.769 you to just hear her. 0:23:41.929 --> 0:23:45.729 Yeah, it was because I knew how much she always 0:23:45.770 --> 0:23:49.330 loved to sing, and I know that if things were different, 0:23:50.490 --> 0:23:56.850 then maybe she could have pursued a career. And it 0:23:57.050 --> 0:24:00.649 just gave me insight into a whole different aspect of 0:24:00.689 --> 0:24:04.810 her life that she had kind of tucked away, you know. 0:24:05.209 --> 0:24:07.330 And I just. 0:24:07.330 --> 0:24:13.490 Want my mother to have a little happiness that let 0:24:13.490 --> 0:24:15.250 me she's in the other room. Let me go get 0:24:15.250 --> 0:24:16.609 her and so she can say hello to you. 0:24:24.090 --> 0:24:29.170 Hello, Madeleine. Oh, yes, I can't hear you. I think 0:24:29.209 --> 0:24:30.649 you're a little far away. 0:24:30.730 --> 0:24:33.850 Jonathan, Hi, Oh there you are? 0:24:34.409 --> 0:24:34.810 Hello? 0:24:35.649 --> 0:24:35.850 Good? 0:24:35.889 --> 0:24:37.050 Good? Hello? How are you? 0:24:37.250 --> 0:24:39.689 I'm good? I'm good. I was just talking with Glenn 0:24:39.730 --> 0:24:42.490 a little bit about the discovery of the seventy eight. 0:24:43.209 --> 0:24:44.010 How do you like that? 0:24:44.169 --> 0:24:48.649 Yes? Yes, I just loved to sing and I didn't 0:24:48.689 --> 0:24:51.409 know anything other than that I wanted to sing. 0:24:52.250 --> 0:24:55.689 What did it feel like for you to have to 0:24:55.730 --> 0:24:56.410 give that up? 0:24:59.209 --> 0:25:03.409 Well, I sort of expected not to get too much 0:25:03.449 --> 0:25:06.850 of anything. You know, times were not too good, so 0:25:06.929 --> 0:25:10.490 I sort of developed a maybe a wall in front 0:25:10.570 --> 0:25:14.090 of me that don't be disappointed. I knew it couldn't be. 0:25:14.689 --> 0:25:19.090 I was hoping it would be, and I just took 0:25:19.129 --> 0:25:19.609 it as. 0:25:19.449 --> 0:25:22.810 It came along over the years. I mean, were there 0:25:22.850 --> 0:25:27.649 times when you'd see other singers getting famous where it 0:25:27.689 --> 0:25:29.890 made you kind of think about yourself a little bit 0:25:30.090 --> 0:25:31.169 or you feel. 0:25:31.850 --> 0:25:34.969 I would say to myself, I'm as good as them. 0:25:36.169 --> 0:25:38.090 And when you listen to yourself, do you think do 0:25:38.129 --> 0:25:41.490 you feel a connection to that person that you used 0:25:41.490 --> 0:25:43.330 to be or does it feel like just a whole 0:25:43.369 --> 0:25:43.969 other person. 0:25:45.369 --> 0:25:49.249 Well, I can almost think back to those days and 0:25:49.970 --> 0:25:54.009 feel when I'm singing your song and phrase, I just 0:25:54.129 --> 0:25:56.210 remember doing it. 0:25:56.330 --> 0:25:57.169 Wow, amazing. 0:25:57.250 --> 0:26:01.170 Yes, yes, yes, after all those years, it's a good feeling. 0:26:02.369 --> 0:26:06.170 I just sit back there and just listen. I relax 0:26:06.290 --> 0:26:09.489 on the chair on the couch, and I hear something 0:26:09.530 --> 0:26:12.770 different every time I hear it, a different note. How 0:26:12.810 --> 0:26:13.729 I sang the note? 0:26:14.090 --> 0:26:14.530 Huh? 0:26:14.570 --> 0:26:15.770 And I smile a lot. 0:26:16.449 --> 0:26:20.530 Yeah, yeah, yes, yes. Is there something about these listening 0:26:20.530 --> 0:26:23.609 to these records that feels like a time machine. 0:26:24.090 --> 0:26:28.409 You're right, you're right, absolutely a good time machine. 0:26:28.929 --> 0:26:30.850 Oh you mean that brings you back. 0:26:30.689 --> 0:26:33.930 Good things, a good things. It's bringing good, good thoughts, 0:26:34.010 --> 0:26:35.450 good ideas, good everything. 0:26:35.689 --> 0:26:37.290 It brings you back the good memories. 0:26:37.810 --> 0:26:40.769 That's right, that's right. We don't the other ones we 0:26:40.850 --> 0:26:43.529 threw away many years ago, you see, the bad ones. 0:26:43.770 --> 0:26:45.090 We're just looking for the good. 0:26:46.369 --> 0:26:47.530 You have to think that way. 0:26:47.609 --> 0:26:51.409 Yes, yes, I don't know if you're comfortable doing this. 0:26:51.490 --> 0:26:54.850 But is there any way that you would be able 0:26:54.889 --> 0:26:56.770 to favor us with a few lines. 0:26:56.570 --> 0:26:58.330 And you want me to sing it to you now? 0:26:58.609 --> 0:27:00.330 I mean, if you had, if you had it in you, 0:27:00.330 --> 0:27:01.489 I don't want to put you on the spot. 0:27:01.570 --> 0:27:08.489 No terror star from out the sky and the sky 0:27:09.169 --> 0:27:16.649 you little tear a pedals from the roads and the rooms. 0:27:16.889 --> 0:27:26.050 Sleep soon take your heart away from me. I almost 0:27:26.090 --> 0:27:30.090 forgot the words. It's a long time ago. 0:27:30.250 --> 0:27:30.729 Forgive me. 0:27:39.609 --> 0:27:40.290 Tamera. 0:27:40.730 --> 0:27:42.970 Start from. 0:27:44.290 --> 0:27:48.449 God and look guy. 0:27:54.050 --> 0:28:01.209 Pedal and weep. 0:28:05.970 --> 0:28:11.169 Take a from. 0:28:12.609 --> 0:28:15.929 And mine will surely pray. 0:28:18.050 --> 0:28:21.050 My life is yours. 0:28:21.090 --> 0:28:26.090 Sutay soon please deep. 0:28:25.850 --> 0:28:34.050 A spark so no, you take theings from. 0:28:36.250 --> 0:28:39.250 So that they can lie? 0:28:42.010 --> 0:28:47.010 Who take metion, throw. 0:28:48.530 --> 0:28:49.290 And leave? 0:28:50.090 --> 0:28:52.890 Just stop side. 0:28:54.650 --> 0:28:56.410 All you. 0:28:59.890 --> 0:29:05.730 Do, this is what I bag. 0:29:08.530 --> 0:29:10.930 Don't say your. 0:29:13.530 --> 0:29:13.850 From? 0:29:19.170 --> 0:29:27.770 No, you take toy from so lead they came? 0:29:31.650 --> 0:29:32.410 What do you. 0:29:32.770 --> 0:29:37.450 Take the straw. 0:29:38.050 --> 0:29:49.130 And leave? Short worded. 0:29:52.010 --> 0:29:54.890 Besk what I bay? 0:29:55.690 --> 0:30:00.769 You don't thank your lo. 0:30:03.050 --> 0:30:28.730 From. 0:30:28.770 --> 0:30:31.570 You can listen to all of Madeline's music at madelinforman 0:30:31.650 --> 0:30:34.570 dot com and it should be up on Spotify pretty 0:30:34.570 --> 0:30:36.810 soon as well. We'll put a link in the show 0:30:36.890 --> 0:30:40.729 notes to that and to our playlist, and we'll be 0:30:40.770 --> 0:30:43.610 back next week with a new check in with best 0:30:43.610 --> 0:30:55.930 selling novelist Curtis Sittenfeld. Would you like music but sparty faith? 0:30:56.330 --> 0:30:59.810 We get the party going both seeing sparty Faith, we 0:30:59.930 --> 0:31:04.090 hit the party going the party phase. Get the party 0:31:04.209 --> 0:31:09.690 going both. Seeing sparty days, we get the party going days. 0:31:10.090 --> 0:31:13.530 He get the party going both. See party days. He 0:31:13.650 --> 0:31:17.209 had the party going both. See party days. He hit 0:31:17.290 --> 0:31:20.810 the party going both. See party days. He had the 0:31:20.890 --> 0:31:23.690 party going. I spoke to a man in shadow Facts, 0:31:23.810 --> 0:31:26.530 A little less typical. I spoke to a man named 0:31:26.650 --> 0:31:31.450 Eric Clapton. Good one. Eric comes the bride, Here comes 0:31:31.530 --> 0:31:33.690 the bride. 0:31:32.410 --> 0:31:36.090 He sounds all tiny and funny bold. 0:31:36.090 --> 0:31:39.490 See his party faith. She had the party going both. 0:31:39.530 --> 0:31:42.249 Seeing his party faith, he hit the party going. 0:31:42.770 --> 0:31:44.170 Sounds like a tea kettle boiling.