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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: National correspondent South Palantonio covering the NFL. Joining us on the program, southpal give me one word to describe the Eagles performance last night, regressing why.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, Jalen Hurts didn't see wide open receivers once again, and his interceptions I thought were totally avoidable. Let's just go to the last one in overtime. He flushes to his right now. Listen, This drive in overtime was a thing of beauty by the offense and Jalen Hurts. It was an example, an illustration of the good, the bad, and the ugly of this offense this year. So they're driving down the field on the road, under duress in overtime to try to win the football game when they couldn't get it out of their own way. He's got them on a first and ten. The Chargers have been flushing him out of the pocket all game long. He's flushed to his right. Dallas Goddard, who has been his security blanket all game. Dan is sitting there eight yards downfield, wide open, and instead Jalen Hurts tries to thread the needle to the goal line area to Johann Dotson, ball is tipped and picked game over. That play, to me is indicative from what I see in that drive, and that play is indicative of what I think the Eagles could be and what they have become.

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Speaker 2: How dangerous are they here trying to regroup with the final month of the regular season.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're in survival modes. I don't know about regroup. They're in survival mode. They got four games left. They start with the Raiders, which is an absolute stone cold Locke must win football game at home after losing three in a row, and then the Commanders twice, but the Bills sandwiched in between on the road in Buffalo. So clearly they must win three out of four. But you know they got to get it right with Jalen Hurts. So Nick Sirianni, as Tim McManus, my colleague on ESPN dot com reported earlier in the week, finds himself now in the offensive meeting rooms for the first time, giving his input more and more to the offense. Question of course being begged, what took so long?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Why are we waiting until after two losses when the offense could get out of its way against Detroit and Green Bay and Chicago. So there's that why did you take so long to give your input? Stick your nose in there? And then after he does, Jalen Hurts has his worst game as a pro. Well, throws four interceptions. Last time that's happened for an Eagles quarterback was Donovan McNabb nineteen ninety nine, when Dona McNabb was a rookie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's such a conundrum because, as I've mentioned, if it's a big game in the bright lights, Jalen Hurts has played extremely well. It's just we're going to look at his regular season and its numbers and go why, But you look at the postseason and you go, is that the same guy? Why do we have this dichotomy of regular season postseason with him?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a couple of things for this year. Let's just focus on this particular year where they are right. You know, last night they were missing their best offensive lineman, Lane Johnson, their best defensive lineman, and Jalen Carter. They turned the ball over five times and they were still in position to win it in overtime. So that's the big picture. That's also the little picture, which is they've had a lot of moving parts on the offensive line. But hey, so did the Buffalo Bills when they went to the Akasher Stadium two weeks ago without their two starting offensive tackles. They put two tight ends on the right side seven plays in a row and ran James Cook flushing him out one on one with the corner, and they piled up big yards in the running game.

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Speaker 5: So you can't adjust.

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Speaker 3: Next man up is the concept in the NFL if you do it right. But the Eagles haven't gotten it right yet. With their offensive line hurt, Lane Dickerson leaves the game, that's also an issue. But here's the bottom line. They threw it forty times last night, only ran at twenty five against the two deep safety zone defense that kills the passing game. The Chargers were number two against the pass. Why are you throwing it forty times? That's on the coaches, that's on the quarter. That's how Petullo, Sirianni and Jalen hurts. He has the ability to go a line of scrimmage and check with me and hand it to Saquon. Everybody's wondering why at Sekon do wells so well last night? Well, because the Chargers let you run the ball if you want to. Troy Aikman had a great breakdown late in the game. Saquon goes into the A gap. If he had just gone to the outside to the D gap, which was wide open, he had clear sailing to a linebacker and a safety. So part of it is on Saquon and this is a running team and the other guy who's not running well, Dan is the quarterback, whether he's choosing not to or they don't have enough design runs for him. Can this be fixed? Absolutely, can be fixed in time for this week. Can it be salvaged for a Super Bowl run? Not sure, don't no.

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Speaker 2: Talking to South Palantonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL, Philip Rivers may be coming back. I'm wondering what does that do for his Hall of Fame candidacy. Do they start the clock like he's eligible for Hall of Fame discussion, but if he comes back and starts to play again, just the clock reset.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question. I'm on the committee, and I don't know the answered.

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Speaker 6: No question.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't the question I thought you were going to ask me. I thought you were going to ask me how in the world. Can a guide come back to the league at age forty four after half a decade of being with his kids and his family. And I love Philip Rivers, great family and devoted to his children.

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Speaker 6: But now he's being.

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Speaker 3: Enticed to come back by his friends in Indianapolis. And that's all good. And we've seen what's happened with Aaron Rodgers. We don't know what kind of shape Philip Rivers and I'm sure they're checking him out. I hope he comes back. It'll be a great story. It tells the story not only of where Indianapolis is, but where the NFL is on the quarterback position, right, So we'll see what happens with Philip Rivers. He's on the bubble. You know, we voted last year and Eli Manning didn't get in. I voted for Eli Manning. I'm a big, big supporter of Elton. You went two Super Bowl MVPs. Short list, got to get in, didn't get in. Philip Rivers is maybe Dan a notch below Eli Manning. Drew Brees will get in this year, most likely, hope he does. I will vote for him. And then there's Eli and Philip Rivers, and let's not forget about Big Ben. So that's the you know, the pipeline of quarterbacks with Hall of Fame. So Philip Rivers is in the conversation, but not at the top of the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Ben Jen correct, you would.

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Speaker 3: Think so for sure. I mean, you know, I was talking to Merrill Hodge. We used to be together on the NFL matchups. Merrily used to play in Pittsburgh. You know, he's got, as I used to say on the show, take the black and gold underwear off once in a while. So, but he loves Big Ben, and so do I. And the thing is, when you look at Ben, he raised the level of everybody around him for a lot of reasons. Strong arm that mobility. Early in his career. I remember Bill Parcells talking about the fact that Big Ben was like eight you know, oak Tree on roller skates. You couldn't bring him down. Great mobility in the pocket, terrific accuracy, and he's got the titles and the numbers. So short answer, yes, that was my long answer.

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Speaker 2: Sorry. What's Matthew Stafford's resume missing? If anything? In your opinion for Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 3: Not missing anything. Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: No, doubt, no doubt, first ballot.

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Speaker 3: Tough. It's always tough, first ballot. You know we're talking Peyton Manning, Brett Fire, John Elway, I'm are you that guy? Probably not, but he gets in.

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Speaker 2: Chris Sims brought up the analogy with Josh Allen that he is the modern day John Elway. What do you think of that?

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 3: I like that analogy quite a bit close. But no cigar, super strong arm can put on the cape take over a football game. Go back and just watch just some of the highlights we throw in the old twenty two if you like to, like I did, of just the Bills offense because I'm doing Bill's at Patriots in Foxborough first time. I'm going back to Patriot Place, by the way, since Tom Brady left O and why wouldn't you? This is a huge game. But go back and look at the Bills offense, especially the second half in the driving snow right and Josh Allen three touchdown pastes runs for another one the longest touchdown run of his career in the drive in snow What a performance by Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: Good to catch up with you again. I like when you're fired up there. Thank you for joining us, Sal Dan.

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Speaker 3: You get me fired up, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Then mission accomplished. Thank you, Sal South pal Antonio.

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon, and The Ben Maller Show Sports Radio on YouTube, Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback senior NFL reporter. They call him Bert locally. I was watching the Patriots pregame show and all I know is Tom Kern and Michael Hawley kept saying, let's go out to Burt, and I go, Who's Burt? Next thing I know, I got Albert Breer on the field, So should I call you?

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Speaker 1: Bert.

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Speaker 5: You can call me whatever you want.

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Speaker 4: Dan.

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Speaker 5: I never correct anybody on that. So whatever you're most comfortable with, I'm good with.

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Speaker 2: Okay. If Philip Rivers is the answer, I don't want to know the question, but I do have to ask that question. If not Philip Rivers, what are the other options for the Colts as a backup quarterback or starting slash backup quarterback?

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Speaker 6: I mean, the.

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Speaker 4: Plan if it's not Riley Leonard, which we'll see, you know, you know he's got the spraying knee. If it's not Riley Leonard, Brett Rippon, who does have experience and has played in the NFL, would probably be the next answer. And you'd be working out some guys on Tuesday, which is.

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Speaker 5: Today, to try to to try to figure.

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Speaker 4: Out, you know, where you can go. This is really sort of a you know, I got a perfect storm of quarterback crap, you know, like in dealing with with Daniel Jones getting hurt and I'm not making light of it, but like Daniel Jones having the torn achilles after playing on a fracture of fibula, Riley Leonard tweaks his knee, You've got Anthony Richardson who has the orbitable orbital injury. Like from what I understand, he's still resting that eye. There's no timetable for his return, and you know, you've got a team that's clearly reeling, there's lost three games in a row, that's got a gauntlet down the stretch, has Seattle in San Francisco the next couple of weeks. You know, if you're Chris Ballard and Shane Stuck and the guy's in charge there, you're doing everything you can to try to create some level of hope that they can, you know, dig what was an incredibly promising season out of a ditch. And so I'm sure we'll get more into why Philip and all of that, but you know, there aren't a ton of options.

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Speaker 5: We're past the trade deadline. You know, the guys that are out there out there.

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Speaker 4: For for for a pretty clear reason, you're not available at the most important position on the field at this time of year.

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Speaker 5: If there are a lot of teams that think he can help, he.

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Speaker 2: Hadn't played in five years now. Granted, yeah, I don't think his arm strength is going to be lesser because it wasn't great and didn't have mobility. But I mean, can you see a scenario where Philip Rivers is playing football the rest of the season.

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Speaker 4: Well, so he had his workout last night and minunderstanding as he threw up pretty well. But like you said, like, I think you sort of expect that. I remember having this conversation with Joe Flacco earlier this year and he said to me, He's like, I think I'm to be able to throw at an NFL level until I'm fifty.

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Speaker 5: He's like, I don't think my arm strength is going away.

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Speaker 6: And I think.

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Speaker 4: Anybody, like even like a suburban dad like me, like I can go out and throw the football in the backyard. I can't run like I used to, but I can go out and throw the ball to my kids, you know. So I think that's one of the lot that that that's one of those things where it's like, yes, he can still throw the ball. He's been coaching high school football, so he's been around it, coaching his son down there in Alabama, and you know, he has been working out and training NFL and college quarterbacks over the last few years. So he's stayed connected, he's stayed working. He's still throwing. That's not the question. The question is can he still move around enough to protect himself. Has he been doing the work to keep himself in the shape to the shape he needs to be in to do that, you know? And then I think the big question is how how are you.

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Speaker 5: Going to take a hit?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: That's the thing is, like I don't think anybody can project you know what it's what's going to happen if he were out there on Sunday and you know, Byron Murphy the three technique from Seattle gets through the line and buries him. Like is he going to be able to get up from that? You know, I think that's probably the biggest question. And you know, I think the timing of it is a question too.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned the five year layoff. You remember Drew Henson.

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Speaker 2: Right yep, back in the day.

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Speaker 4: So for those who don't know, if Drew Henson, you know, had come out of Michigan, you know, in twenty twenty two and it kept playing football at Michigan, if he had come out in twenty twenty two, he might have been a contender to be the first overall pick. Instead, he takes the money and goes in place for the Yankees. That doesn't work out. He tried to come back to football a few years later. Well, you know, I remember talking to some Cowboys people. I covered the Cowboys on the beat a few years after that, and I remember having just casual conversation with people about Drew Henson and why.

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Speaker 5: He didn't make it, because physically it's very talent.

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Speaker 4: He was a really good quarterback at Michigan, the successor to Tom Brady there. And you know what the Cowboys people said to me was, you don't understand when you're away from it, how quickly the timing goes away, and how hard it is to replicate that and all the things that go along with being able to stand in the pocket with your eyes downfield, with you know, two hundred and fifty three hundred pound guys who are elite athletes coming at you at full speed like there's no way to replicate that. So if you're out of it for a few years, it's hard to get it back.

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Speaker 5: And their thing was, that's what happened to Drew Henson, Right.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't that apply here to I mean, I know Rivers obviously has a ton more experience, but if you've been out of it, I would think the timing.

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Speaker 5: Of it would be an issue.

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Speaker 4: Too, so there's a ton of reason to ask questions about it, you know, and I like, I think, you know, if if nothing else like this at least shows the Colts locker room that this stiching and ballor are doing everything they possibly can to create some modicum of hope, you know, whether or not it can actually work.

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, I don't know that anybody has the.

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Speaker 4: Answer to that question, because this feels pretty unprecedented.

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Speaker 2: You know, why is the trade deadline where it is during the season.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean the main reason is so you don't see teams dumping players late.

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Speaker 5: That's the main thing is.

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Speaker 4: You know what what the NFL wants to avoid is a situation where you have, you know, some three win team or two win team, and the general managers or buddies or whatever, and you see competitive balance getting thrown off because this player or that player is getting moved to another team at the end of the year. Now that team that's already non competitive becomes even less competitive.

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Speaker 5: I think it has more to do with that in that, like your team is your.

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Speaker 4: Team, they have done work to move it back.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know this DP as well as anybody. Like the last few years they have, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, been in those situations where it's like, okay, like we're going to move it back another week. And I've actually seen some of the data on this, which is interesting that the percentage of the season that's done when they have a trade deadline is lower in football than it is in baseball or basketball.

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Speaker 5: And the case for.

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Speaker 4: Moving it back even further than it is now is to kind of get it up to that standard that you see in other sports.

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Speaker 5: But the main reason why is like the NFL wants.

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Speaker 4: To avoid a situation where you know, you have teams end in November beginning of December. Dumping all of these players can affect attendance at games, can affect the the competitiveness of certain matchups.

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Speaker 5: That's really the reason why.

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Speaker 2: Talking Albert Breer the Monday Morning Quarterback, senior NFL reporter, you have this proliferation of long field goals in the NFL, and we're about aesthetics yep. And I don't know if the competition committee has ever addressed can you raise the crossbar? Like is there something that they've gotten too good at this?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Just like the extra point that would maybe change the philosophy of all these longer field goals here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there are there are things you could do. You could raise a crossbar, you can narrow the uprights.

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Speaker 5: You know. I think you got to look at the reasoning why this is happening too.

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Speaker 4: Like, I had a really good conversation with Nick Folk about this, you know, a couple of weeks ago, and he's obviously been doing it for a long long time. I believe this is his nineteenth year in the NFL, And so I asked him, I said, like, what do you think it is? He said, the caball is definitely a factor.

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Speaker 5: Now again, for those who don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, explain the cable. Explain explain the cable, right.

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Speaker 5: So, like, I guess we can relate this to the flightgate.

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Speaker 4: Like, quarterbacks have always been given the opportunity to prepare balls right to so they can have each game ball just as they like it for game day. So the quarterbacks have always had that opportunity to do that. They don't They didn't allow kickers to do that until this year.

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Speaker 5: So now kickers have the same.

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Speaker 4: Opportunity to prepare the caballs, which are the balls that are there for the kickers. The kickers and punters can prepare balls the same way the quarterbacks do for game day, So I think most kickers would tell you that's a factor. I don't know exactly what they're doing, whether I actually asked him, I said, is there's something everyone's doing to the ball.

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Speaker 5: He's like, I don't know. I just haven't talked to enough people to know.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sure that everybody's done research onto it and looked into it and is doing something that's helping them.

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Speaker 5: So that's number one.

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Speaker 4: The second thing that folks said to me was more interesting, though, He said, because it's become so competitive for college scholarships, then obviously you.

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Speaker 5: Know spots in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: You know, you what you're seeing is better athletes the position now. And so you've got a guy who you know is a really good high school player, who's maybe a really good high school receiver or a really good high school corner or a really good high school linebacker, and maybe he could play Division two or three college football. But if he learns how to kick, he can kick at Alabama, or he can kick at Oregon, or he can kick.

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Speaker 5: At Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: And so now you have these guys who are like really good athletes in their own right who are probably you know, college football players at a baseline, and now they're learning how to kick, and so you have these guys who are more explosive, who have better legs learning how to do it. You add on too that some of the personal training they're getting and better athletes are making it at that position. He had mentioned actually Tyler Loop who's the Ravens kicker, who was from the University of Arizona, which is Folks alma mater. He said he worked out with him and he was like, I couldn't believe, Like when I talked to the strength coaches at Arizona what sort of athlete he was.

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Speaker 5: He said he was like a twenty one or twenty two mile an hour guy.

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Speaker 4: On the GPS, which is insane, you know what I mean, Like, that's not that far off from.

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Speaker 5: What like the field players you know, run.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's a number of factors, and you know, I don't know exactly how you address it, but I do think that that's the one part that you that you really won't change. You know, you could go back to the old rules and the CA balls and everything else. But I mean the fact that they are better athletes that are more specialized doing it.

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Speaker 5: I think as a factor as well.

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Speaker 2: How many head coaching vacancies do you think we're going to have?

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Speaker 5: I mean I think the normal number probably seven or eight.

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Speaker 2: You know, you failt total with like what happened with the Giant.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you have the Giants and the Titans.

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Speaker 4: Now, you know, I think there are definitely some like that have come up that maybe we didn't expect two months ago. Atlanta, Arizona would probably be in that bucket that are at least going to be, you know, under some level of evaluation.

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Speaker 5: What does Cleveland do you know? And then you have like your curve ball.

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Speaker 4: You know, like that would be like if Pittsburgh and I don't think this would be a firing, but if Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: And Mike Tomlin have a mutual parting.

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Speaker 4: So I think we'll get to that number, to to seven or eight. And you know the interesting thing about it is, I think a lot of teams are gonna have to evaluate this Dan and say, is what's.

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Speaker 5: Behind door number two worth getting rid of what we know is already behind door?

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Speaker 4: Like Penn State, right, I mean, I think that's that's going to be it for a lot of these teams, because I would make this argument, right, I think if you was today December ninth, right, So if you ask me on December ninth, twenty twenty four, I would have told you Ben Johnson and Mike Rabel are going to be head coaches next year.

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Speaker 5: I don't know where.

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Speaker 4: I can't tell you exactly where, but those two guys are going to be head coaches next year. I'd even maybe have given you Aaron Glenn at that time. I'm like, I'm pretty sure he's getting one, right, Who.

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Speaker 6: Is that this year?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a hot guy.

00:23:32
Speaker 5: And that's it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like, like you have some interesting names, like Jesse Mentor has done a great job with the Chargers defense. I think Mike McDonald because their similar background helps him a lot. Mike McDonald's had great success in Seattle.

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Speaker 5: Of course.

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Speaker 4: You know Chris Shula, who's you know, got the bloodlines, of course, is in the RAMS program. Like he's another one, like the hot offensive guy. I mean, who is it now? I mean, Joe Brady's had like a little bit of an up and down year in Buffalo. He's interviewed really well, so I think if the bill's finished strong, maybe he becomes the guy, you know, and then you've got a couple of the second chance guys. You know, Mike McCarthy I think will be.

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Speaker 5: In the mix.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know like that you would look at it right now and say yes, like this guy will be a head coach next year.

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Speaker 5: And you had at least a couple of those guys last year.

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Speaker 4: And I think in most years you have at least a couple of guys where you can say, yeah, like that guy's going to be a head coach this year. And so if you're a team that's like considering a changer, you're on the fence. Maybe that gets your your guy a stay of execution. I even argue with Miami right like where Mike McDaniel has now you know, like resurrected, you know, like perception. I it was interesting because I was having these conversations with some people with the Dolphins, and you know what one person told me is like that Steve Ross was hearing the buzz that Mike McDaniel will be a great second chance head coach. And it caused Ross to say, well, wait a second, then, why why would we get rid.

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Speaker 2: Of him, you know what I mean, Like.

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Speaker 4: If he's going to be such a good see, if it's gonna be such a good hire for somebody the second time around, why aren't we trying harder to see if we can make the first time around work. So, if you're them now and you're the Dolphins, you're looking at it and you're saying, Okay, we fired the general manager. Now Mike McDaniel has this team at six and seven and going into Pittsburgh on Monday with a chance to get to five hundred. We're not eliminated from the playoffs. We haven't lost since we fired the GM on Halloween. I wouldn't you think twice about that? So I think that's part of the equation for.

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Speaker 2: A lot of these teams. Thanks again, Bert, good to have you on.

00:25:37
Speaker 5: You got it. You can call me whatever you want.

00:25:39
Speaker 2: Albert Brier, the Monday Morning Quarterback.

00:25:41
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00:25:52
Speaker 2: Reggie Aloysius Miller Junior, the third Hall of Famer NBC Sports NBA Lead Game analyst, we're twenty five games in. This is when we start to go okay. Now it feels like it's a little bit more than just a trend. It becomes a real story. So if that's the case, what would be the number one story? Well, maybe it's OKAC is so much better than everybody else? Would that be the number one story for you?

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Speaker 6: I think yes, because now everyone it's going to be on the tip of people's tongue. Can they eclipse that Golden State record of winning seventy three seventy four games and at the end of it winning the championship. People need to remember the Warriors had that best record, but they lost in the finals. So I think people still view the Bulls because of that seventy two and ten record ended up winning the championship. I think everyone's thinking, when is OKC gonna lose again? That would probably be the number one story, and to me the number two story. We didn't think Luca and the Lakers would be this game. No one thought Lebron would be the third Will on this team, which he is, and that's a heck of a third will to have. Austin Reeves is playing like an All Star in a contract year. I didn't have the Lakers being this good. The question going forward can they sustain it in health will be a big issue in my opinion for the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to when Luca was in Dallas and I know that we corresponded and you had said Luca was out of shape. I don't know the exact language, but then I know after the game you started to wonder did you take a step too far? You know, did you were you overly critical? And I wonder, looking back on that, what kind of role do you think that played it all with Luca the Mavericks and maybe where he is right now with the Lakers.

00:28:03
Speaker 6: I think the comments Kevin and I made, not necessarily about his weight, but being in shape to play at an NBA level. And if you listen to Luca's comments the day after, he echoed what we said, like, yeah, I'm not in the best of shape. I could be in better shape. So he kind of piggyback what we said, and he knew. I mean, because whenever I say things, it comes from a place of truth and love. I'm not going to sugarcoat anything, and I would always want someone to tell me the truth as well, when I was a player, I respect that more so I think he respected kind of what we were saying. And you fast forward to now. JJ Rennick basically said the same thing in their postseason meetings, you got to get in better shape. Well what does he do. He goes back to Slovenia. He gets in the best shape, plays unbelievable, the leading scorer in euro Basket. Carries that over into this year and he's in the league and score. But more importantly, it just looks better for him. He's moving better, there's more fluidity to his game. Not to say that he couldn't have done that playing the way he played in Dallas, but I think long, big and long pitcher for Luca and the Lakers. If he stays in this shape, I just think the numbers are going to go through the roof because there's longevity, They're staying power when he plays at this weight and he looks this good Theodore.

00:29:36
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of revisionist history too with Austin Reeves because I didn't see this, No, I don't know who did, but I remember talking to two college basketball analysts and I said, do you remember Austin Reeves with this potential, and they're like, well, you know, you could see if he was gonna go. Really to me, no one thought that.

00:29:59
Speaker 6: Look, I always thought this coming. And again I always tell people this. You're a product of your environment. He went undrafted and he wanted to sign with the Lakers. He saw a fit in a place where he thought he could build a Niche he took a gamble on himself, Dan and knocked on wood help provide it. I think it's going to pay off because the Lakers or someone is going to have to pay him because he is a legitimate number one on a bad team. If he goes somewhere else so he could be a number one on a bad team, or if he stays with the Lakers, be an unbelievable Robin to Batman because he has certainly taken that role from Lebron, and I think they respect that. So right now he's in the cat first seat and he controls his own destiny. As long as he continues to play like this and understand and know his role, which he plays perfectly.

00:31:03
Speaker 2: She gonna get fifty million dollars a year.

00:31:07
Speaker 6: I mean that's what it looks like. I mean, damn, I'm not gonna. You can't fault that he has put in the work. Think about how he's come along when he was first thrust into it with just Lebron, and Lebron was giving him. I remember a clip when Lebron was explaining something to him and he looked like a deer in headlights when Lebron was explaining a rotation on the floor and he was like looking like, like, what do I do? I rotate? And you fast forward to now he is one of the biggest vote of voices on this Lakers team. So fifty million is coming his way, either from the Lakers or from someone else. The matter vague. Will it be for five years or four years? He's getting it somewhere.

00:31:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't be grudging making the money. If you go from undrafted to your kind of there and then you would like little bits and pieces where you go. All right.

00:32:02
Speaker 3: I did.

00:32:03
Speaker 2: Can't get a shot, all right, he did, can't get to the hole, all right? He's a great And then all of a sudden Lebron goes out, and then all of a sudden, Austin Reeves or Luca's out, and then Austin Reeves is like, uh, do I need to get forty like that, doesn't you know that's that's hard to compute. Where you go. I can go out and get forty, you know a couple of times here, or I can be a twenty five point scorer. I guess it was just the surprising element of And somebody told me who works with the Lakers. We saw him in practice, and you know, playing in practice, sometimes you'll see somebody and you'll go, look, man.

00:32:42
Speaker 6: Great practice player.

00:32:43
Speaker 2: But yeah, exactly, yeah, and.

00:32:46
Speaker 6: It translates the games. And this is why I tell kids in high school and college players alike, rankings really don't mean anything. They don't. It's what's in your heart and it's how you developed. I was a late bloomer and I came on late. I was late to be recruited by UCLA. I was slow to develop At UCLA. They brought me along slow, which was great because they allowed me to grow into my game. And I think Austin Rivers is like that as well. So don't worry about rankings, don't worry about what other people say. As long as you put the grind in and the hard work, the fruits of your labor will come out. Finding the right fit would he be the successful if he was in Minnesota, if he was in Charlotte, we don't know. Sometimes it's the right fit. And let's give Rob Polinka and that staff a lot of credit for taking a gamble. Sometimes you got to take a gamble, a risky gamble, and it pays off and it works out.

00:33:52
Speaker 2: I got a Red G. Miller the Hall of Famer. When do the Bucks decide what they're gonna do with Yannis?

00:34:00
Speaker 6: To me, it's got to be sooner than later. And if you're Doc Rivers, and I know he's said all the right things that Giannie has not come out and said he wants to be traded. But you just have to figure, are we wasting this young man's prime years here? They've tried to do everything to surround him with talent. Now he's got to stay on the court.

00:34:27
Speaker 4: Now.

00:34:27
Speaker 6: I know he's had some nagging, nagging injuries this last this year as well as towards the end of last year. To me, he doesn't want to be the a hole. He doesn't want to come out and be demonstrative and say I want to be traded. But to me, he he has earned the right. He brought them a Championship.

00:34:51
Speaker 2: But he's got to be careful that he doesn't say I want to go to the Knicks. He's got to be I'm open to being.

00:34:58
Speaker 6: Everything has to be behind closed door with him, and I'm sure he's he's voiced that, but he just can't public publicly come out and say I want to go to the Knicks, which everyone that's our job. But everyone's formulating the numbers. Will it be Miami, will it be New York? Could it be La? Who do you is Reeves in this deal? I mean, there's there's so many ways that people are crunching the numbers. It just from a basketball standpoint, then you know this him in New York just makes sense, doesn't it? Himpaired?

00:35:35
Speaker 5: Okay?

00:35:35
Speaker 2: But who does? You got to look at both sides of the deal. People only look at one side and to go, man, be honest with the Knicks. Okay, who are the Bucks going to get? And you go, you know what, we did the best we could. We have Karl Anthony Towns, and we have Michel Bridges, and we have what is that enough?

00:35:55
Speaker 6: And probably a protected pick. I mean, if you're if you're of Milwaukee and I can get Karl Anthony Towns, who's an All Star, one of the premier shooting big men our game has ever seen. And Michael Bridges, who hasn't missed the game since his seventh grade AAU team, so you know he's reliable and will play. You're getting two guys that have been on I know you'll never get fair value. You're never gonna get equal trade value for yon Man.

00:36:26
Speaker 2: But you don't want draft picks you would you wanted.

00:36:29
Speaker 6: I need a couple of draft picks as well. I need those two guys, and I need two first round picks. Let's shake hands and call it today.

00:36:38
Speaker 2: You mentioned this a couple of weeks ago, and I have a friend who works in the NBA, and he goes, what's Reggie smoking? When you said con Canipple and his three point shooting? And I said, I think Reggie firmly believes Conkniple he's gonna set the all time rookie record for three pointers made. To get Yeah, the given, the.

00:37:00
Speaker 6: Question will be here's the thing when people say, you know what am I smoking? The question will be for Kahn, will he be a go to guy? Like how Steph was a go to guy from years five through now because his first three or four years he was in he was injury riddled. So so Con will have those numbers on Steph the first three years. The question going forward for kN will be in year four and five, where's his development and where is he in the pecking order if he is even if he's still in Charlotte, who even knows if he'll be there? That's will he have the longevity? Because Steph has always had the longevity after year four and he was the go to guy. Will Kan be a go to guy? And will he always get these get the opportunities that Steph has gotten. Who knows, But if you're going to go by the first two or three years, Conn will have the numbers on step.

00:38:05
Speaker 2: Do you knew who has the rookie record for most three pointers? Mate? Paulie said, I would be shocked. Now is this a recent guy, Pauline?

00:38:14
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's still pretty young. He plays in a town that doesn't get a ton of coverage on the NBA calendar.

00:38:22
Speaker 2: Trey Young, Keegan Murray.

00:38:25
Speaker 8: Two hundred and sixty threes with your Kings, Dan, Wow, your guy Con right?

00:38:31
Speaker 6: Now?

00:38:32
Speaker 8: What is that number, by the way, two thirty six two six two so Keegan Murray Conknipple right now is on pace for two hundred and sixty three threes.

00:38:41
Speaker 2: He blow away the record. Yeah, dang, But he plays in Charlotte.

00:38:48
Speaker 6: That's the problem. And will he stay in Charlotte his whole career or will someone come a calling? Right? So, does he stay healthy? And will he ever be a go to guy like Stephan Curry? He's not even a go to guy on Charlotte right now. The reason why he's getting all these threes is LaMelo's been in and out of the lineups. Brandon Miller has been in and out of the lineups, so the opportunity is there. I would I'm curious to see once everyone is healthy, does he still get these looks, which I hope he does because he's a fly out shooter. But again, view him on his first three years versus steph first three years. He'll have the numbers. The question will be going forward, will be year.

00:39:34
Speaker 1: Four on.

00:39:36
Speaker 2: Can the Hornage be a playoff team if LaMelo ball is your best player? No, No, nothing to happen there.

00:39:52
Speaker 6: I love Jamelo, I love LaMelo, but LaMelo has to stay healthy, and to me, he just has to.

00:40:01
Speaker 2: He's just a curiosity. He's a curios He's just a he's a guy out there having fun. But I don't think I.

00:40:08
Speaker 6: Would love to see him on a really, really good team where every possession matters.

00:40:14
Speaker 8: Paul Paulie, what what do you have Reggie Miller's total threes as a rookie. By the way, Reggie came off the bench as a rookie, so he played eighty two games, started one. He was sixty one for one seventy two as a rookie.

00:40:26
Speaker 2: Sixty one threes.

00:40:28
Speaker 6: And I broke Larry birds record. Yes, record, that was breaking Larry Birds record. I think Larry Bird had like fifty seven.

00:40:35
Speaker 2: Right, Polly, that's right.

00:40:36
Speaker 6: I broke it with sixty one.

00:40:38
Speaker 2: Wow.

00:40:39
Speaker 6: And what is coln at right now currently?

00:40:42
Speaker 2: Is that eighty one?

00:40:43
Speaker 6: Come on, man, and we're not even We're only a quarter up to the season.

00:40:48
Speaker 2: I know he's gonna and.

00:40:51
Speaker 6: Great the homework. Do the homework.

00:40:57
Speaker 2: What did Reggie average assist was?

00:40:59
Speaker 8: I think he had three assists that season.

00:41:01
Speaker 2: Now you have one hundred and thirty two assistans. No, you could pass if you wanted to.

00:41:08
Speaker 6: No, right, thank you, Theodore, if I wanted if you just did not leader. Put the ball in the basket five minutes left in the game. Close the game. That's what it said, up my bio.

00:41:25
Speaker 2: Oh dude, okay, my.

00:41:27
Speaker 6: Job description when they hired me.

00:41:30
Speaker 5: Uh.

00:41:31
Speaker 2: I love that Reggie would pass it, but he wanted it back after he passed, because I pass it, I'll pass it back.

00:41:39
Speaker 5: Bring.

00:41:41
Speaker 2: What's his career high assist in a game in a game in a season?

00:41:47
Speaker 6: One footble double? That was it?

00:41:49
Speaker 8: Okay, I got eleven assists in a game for Reggie. His best season, he averaged four assists a game year five.

00:41:56
Speaker 6: Wow, Well, why are you looking at me like that, Theodore?

00:42:02
Speaker 2: I don't know.

00:42:03
Speaker 6: The game has changed to point. We had a point guard that distributed the ball. We had shooting guards that shot the ball. We had small forwards who were like wing players who defended.

00:42:17
Speaker 2: How many how many assisted Bird? How many assisted Bird average? When he was playing because he had a point guard, he ended up getting you know, seven eight, that's different.

00:42:29
Speaker 8: In different Larry Bird's best season he everaged seven and a half a siss a game.

00:42:34
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just saying he was a shooter and a rebounder, but also passing. You were coming up with excuses there.

00:42:41
Speaker 6: No, no, no excuse. It's just knowing my role. That's the key for eighteen years plus is knowing your role.

00:42:48
Speaker 2: Were you ever first or second or thirteen old defense?

00:42:52
Speaker 9: No, no, Now what they should have had a category for was I could have been first, second, thirteen all team.

00:43:05
Speaker 6: I was a great team help. You were a helper, a great help defender. So when someone got meat slide over and then let Dell and Rick and Jay.

00:43:19
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, but you you were guarding shooting guards. You're the one that needed team help.

00:43:26
Speaker 6: I forced them into the hell. Oh that's not that's health defense. You forced them to your fee.

00:43:36
Speaker 2: Help help help somebody pick up kelbe somebody get Kobe help help. Uh, thank you Rech, good to talk to you.

00:43:46
Speaker 6: Appreciate your Theodore. Thank you Danny. That's Paulie. A great job out no stats

00:43:51
Speaker 2: Frinch, what you do you get an assist there, Paulie, that's what you get.