Hour 3 – Are Horses Athletes?, Jim Jackson

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio Final Hour. In this Monday Best and Worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked you didn't like. Jim Jackson, NBA analyst, he'll join us coming up in a little bit. Seventy six Ers move on. Surprise, surprise, the Pistons finally act like the Pistons to close out the Magic and the magic head coach ends up getting fired Jamal Moseley. The Lakers close out the Rockets. Cabs move on, they beat the Raptors. Golden Tempo wins the Kentucky Derby. It's not a foregone conclusion anymore when you win the Derby that you will run in the Preakness and run in the Belmont. It's almost like horses are becoming so specialized for one of the three, Like if you have a speed horse at the Preakness, you have a horse that great closer, you know, maybe the Belmont. But it was an unbelievable run by Golden Town them, and it was fun to watch NBC with the overhead shot where you can actually see all the horses, all the traffic had to navigate, and then on the outside because you're listening to the call, and Golden Tempo's name isn't being mentioned until probably the last five seconds, and all of a sudden, it's like, oh my goodness, you go from last to first at that race with all the different horses there in front of you. Who and hopefully the horse will be able to run in the Preakness. I mean it's great for these other races because if that horse would win the Preakness, then what that means for the Belmont. But if you don't run in the Preakness and then you run in the Belmont, you know, the Preakness usually is the ugly step child here sort of gets it doesn't have what the Derby has. But then no event does, no race does. But the Belmont, you know, relies on that if you won the first two legs of the Triple Cram. But I go back to what Secretariat did. This is nineteen seventy three. Now, in all other sports, we look at the athletes, they get bigger, faster, stronger. You know, whoever was great in nineteen seventy three in basketball or baseball or football wouldn't be as great now. But in horse racing, nobody comes close to Secretariat. I don't know why horses don't get better. Now, there might be illegal means where some horses do get better. But if you run the Kentucky Derby in just under two minutes, one fifty nine to four I think is the number for Secretariat. If Secretariat that time in this race on Saturday would have finished fifteen lengths in front of Golden Temple, Nineteen of the twenty horses entered into Kentucky Derby were descendants of Secretariat. Nobody has that kind of hold on a sport, like when you think about it, and there were other great horses, but Secretariat just had something about the look of Secretariat, the size of Secretariat, and what Secretariat did to the rest of the field. I mean, this is like Tiger at the US Open at Pebble Beach or Tiger at Augusta in the Masters, where you're winning by twelve and winning by fifteen. Those things don't happen in majors. And you know, in the triple Crown range you're winning by you'd be winning by fifteen lengths. How many lengths did Secretariat win the Belmont By? Wasn't a horse called Shed that finished second? And I don't even know if shed is in the picture at the finish line, Yeah, Pauli nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Seventy three in the Belmont, Secretariat won by thirty one lengths. In the photo right by the finish line. If that's what it's called. You could see no horses in the backroom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, more.

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Speaker 3: I mean Secretariat. He was on the Sports Century fifty Greatest Athletes of All Time. He's above doctor.

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Speaker 1: J He might be in the top ten. I remember because I was hosting Sports Century at the Mothership and each week we would unveil you know, who's next on them if it was so important to Tim Duncan during the NBA Finals that he wanted to know who was number one on the list, and I said to him, if you win the title, I'll tell you. He wins the tie and he comes in. He goes, Who's the first thing he says, comes into the Sports Center set. We're getting ready to go on Sports Center. He goes, Who's number one? And I said Jordan. Then he goes, okay, yes, Marv.

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Speaker 3: Secretariat was thirty fifth of all the time.

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Speaker 1: I thought there was a in there of a horse.

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Speaker 4: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: I thought there was one that was higher than that. People had a real problem that a horse was in the top fifty greatest athletes of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Paul probably had a better chance to get the secretariat for an interview than Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Well, I had to work. I remember my boss said, you've got to pull out all the stops and get Jordan to do an interview. I said, we've tried. Mike doesn't want to do it. He said, tell him he's it'll look bad if he's number one on the list. We need him in here. Mike had played I think thirty six holes of golf that day. I had to go into New York and he was playing I think in Jersey, and Mike came in like, he agreed, I want to be fair to the context of it. I don't think he was thrilled to do it, but he did do it. I think in part because I was going to be asking the questions. But once I got him to sit down, then everything was fine. But I mean, Mike had played thirty six holes, probably had a few cocktails, probably had a few cigars, and then all of a sudden he sits down and thankfully let me ask him questions. But I just remember, people, do you have the top ten of Sports Century.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marv, indeed, I do dp okay, so ten to one or one to ten?

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Speaker 1: Ten to one?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 3: So number ten is it's hard to pronounce this young lady's name. Babe Ddricksen, yep, Ziharis Zariius, Yes, that's the name. One Hereumber nine, Jack Nicholas, number eight, will he Mays number seven, Jim Thorpe number six, Jesse Owens number five, Wayne Gretzky number four, Jim Brown number three, Muhammad Ali number two, Babe Ruth and number one Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Boy, they had a problem though. But I remember talking. I can't say the athlete, but he's like, how do you have a horse in there? Over us? I go, I said, Secretariat was an athlete, but he was a horse. I said, I know, just saying yes, Dylan, I.

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Speaker 6: Mean, if you're going purely off total dominance, secretary is probably number one. Well, if we could never have done that, horse can't be number one. No no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: No, no no.

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Speaker 2: And I'll disagree because if you look at athlete, what are the sports could Secretariat play?

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Speaker 1: But Secretariat need to have somebody on his back like he did need help. I mean, Jordan did need Pippin Babe Ruth needed lou gerrig Yes, yes.

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Speaker 6: We've never even seen what Secretary could do without someone on his back. There, you know, thirty three lengths at the Belmont Marabey.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Paul Anthony Edwards of the Timberwolves upgrade it to questionable.

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Speaker 1: I like it, not doubt I like it. I think that I got. Timberwolves are thirteen and a half point underdogs seventy six or seven and a half point underdogs. On Tuesday Night, Cavaliers are three and a half point underdogs against the Pistons. The Lakers are fifteen and a half point underdogs against Oka Singh. Alrighty spent a lot of time in the first time we're talking about Jalen Brown of the Celtics. He was on his Twitch stream and talked about the officiating and had a problem. He did use the word agenda, and I'm gonna guess this commissioner will have an agenda to talk to Jalen Brown about.

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Speaker 5: It.

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Speaker 7: Clearly had an agenda, maybe because I spoke in those critical or the reps in the regular season, so you know how they respond it like we're gonna call every We're gonna we're gonna you're gonna lead the playoffs in offensive foules. That's how that was the response from the officiating crew. You could clearly tell. And I've actually spoke to some reps and they said it was it was agenda going into each game. Anytime Jalen brings his arm up, just from reputation and just call it. Paul George does the same thing. Jalen Brenston does the same thing. Shit, I can go down the list. It's a basketball player, whether y'all believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the fact that officials told him there was an agenda, that is what caught my attention. If I'm the commissioner, I want to know Jalen Brown, come on him, and I want you to tell me who these officials are because if not, I want you to retract. I want you to issue an apology. Now if it's true, All right, now we got something here. But yes, do other players get away with things? Yes, they do, But you try to get away with if you're not cheating, you're not trying. As Mark Grace would always say to me, you're trying to get an edge. However you get the edge. Shay Giljess Alexander. He he initiates contact, he's getting the calls. That means he's going to stop because well, you know, it's kind of an unfair advantage. I'm getting a call on somebody else, is it?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson. This is where teams would always take clips and then they would send it to the NBA, the home office and say just look at this. So you know why we're upset about this. This is our guy. These are calls that are made or not made. That's their guy. Calls that are made or not made. Trip in Vegas is back, Hi Trip? What's on your mind?

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Speaker 8: Today, Hey, good morning DP. I had two bests of the weekend, a few names maybe some of the music. If I'm correct, best would be Cameron Young and then the second best would be Scottie Scheffler again a ho home number one player in the world, finishing second, and then on the music list. I may be incorrect on this, but I was thinking, maybe, uh, Smokey Robinson, Hank Williams or Allison.

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Speaker 1: Else Smokey Robinson is on that list. I believe Alison Crowns is not on that list. And who was the other one? Hank Williams. Did not see Hank Williams on that list. Now, this is the New York Times thirty Greatest Living American Songwriters. Because I immediately thought, wait, Paul McCartney's not in there, and then my wife said, it's American songwriters. Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 2: I did not see Bob Seger on the list.

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Speaker 5: He's not that.

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Speaker 2: That's a toughie yea that he had some hammers and I double checked he wrote them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Uh, Now, dil so we're ruling out like band like frontmen of bands, right who wrote the music? Because I'd say, like David Byurne, talking heads would be up there. He wrote all their songs.

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Speaker 1: Well, Stephen Tyler with Aerosmith, I think him and Joe Perry wrote most of the music there.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know voted, I don't know what the criteria was, but I think there are a few omissions there with the New York Times greatest New York Times did what they wanted, and I they got what they wanted. Some knucklehead's gonna go on a show and talk about, oh, this guy should have been that guy. Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 3: As long as Bob Dylan Stevie Wonder on you could put twenty other people on there. As long as those two are there, you're good to go.

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Speaker 1: You could not have a list without Dylan on there. Yes, you can't. And I'm glad Steve's on there too. Prince would have been on there if he was still sure.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Paul, this is the music version of doing an August drop of Patrick Mahomes as a sixth best quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 1: You know where you don't believe it? Yes, Marv or uh?

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Speaker 6: Yes, Dylan, Stevie Wonder and Bob Dylan are definitely first team all like songs that are theirs that other people have covered where they think it originally those people sung, like the amount of songs that Dylan's written for other.

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Speaker 1: People are well. Willie Nelson too, Yeah, I mean he wrote Patsy Klin's greatest hit and Willie's probably I don't know if he's still writing at his age now, but yeah, you're I mean, all you gotta do is listen to songs in the Key of Life with Stevie Wonder when you have the double album Intervisions.

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Speaker 3: It was the songs and Life is the double album?

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, Stevie was. That was some wild, great, great, great music. Yes, Martin, he was so dominant. I just saw this on YouTube yesterday. Paul Simon one album of the Year and he thanks Stevie Wonder for not putting out an album this year. That's pretty good, pretty good. It's like a keem Olaijuan should apologize to Mike Jordan for playing baseball. Mike, thank you for taking some time off. All right, Uh, coming up, we'll talk some hoops. We'll talk to Jim Jackson, which Jim Jackson on the Detroit Orlando Calton.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he did Friday night's Game six between the pistons of the match.

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Speaker 1: Seventy six ers nixt Tonight starts at eight Eastern on Peacock and NBC. More of your phone calls coming up, Best and worst to the weekend. Well, you saw that you like, you didn't like? We'll talk to Jim Jackson, the NBA College basketball analyst. He was on the call Friday night Piston's Magic Game six. Dylan, would you update the poll results from the first twenty minutes of this final hour?

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Speaker 6: Yes, Dan, I believe that this was you. Actually it was who was better in the seventies, Terry Bradshaw Billy Joel the famous question. Four percent are saying Billy Joel.

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Speaker 1: But it's close. Yeah, because Terry won four Super Bowls. That's a pretty good run. Yes it is, but Billy Joel had a pretty good run as well. Yes, Marvin Wish I asked Jim Jackson he's a Steelers fan. Oh, he is, so he wasn't a Browns fan growing up in northern Ohio?

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Speaker 3: Would you root for the Browns?

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Speaker 1: I did growing up, But I grew up when Jim Brown was the running back and then they got Leroy Kelly. So imagine you have Jim Brown, Hall of Famer, arguably the greatest running back of all time. Then you get Lee Roy Kelly, who came in and was a Hall of Famer as well. Yes, Billy, that is a good point though.

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Speaker 6: If you live in Ohio, like outside Cleveland, kind of on the Pennsylvania side, and you can pick I mean you're picking the Steelers at least in the twenty first century.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I would imagine, but I don't know what the pressure was of. Are you a Browns fan? Why aren't you a Browns fan? Did you hear the commissioner talking about Cleveland might get a Super Bowl? Eventually? They're going to have a new stadium built, and most of these teams, when you build a Buffalo's not going to get a super Bowl. I was told that they'll get the draft, but they're not going to get a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marv, Cleveland feels like a draft city just because of how cold and how snowy you can get in early February.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the draft is in April.

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Speaker 3: I thought you say they would get a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, they're no. Buffalo's not getting I'll talk about Cleveland. Why are you yelling at me again?

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Speaker 3: It just I was raising it just a smage, but you know how Okay, you know how I get about the draft.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but Cleveland is now that I think they're concerned about the number of hotels that are going to be available, but if they're going to have a you know, retractable roof, then the commissioner talked about Cleveland was going to get the super Bowl. By the way, I know a lot of people say, hey, when's your prediction gonna come true about Nashville getting a super Bowl. Nashville's getting a super Bowl twenty thirty. Now, when it's announced, then you can ask me if there's something different there. But I think my source is too good. And he even apologized. He said, hey, I'm sorry, it's it's going to take a couple of weeks before this. I go, okay, just kind of hanging here a little bit here. He goes, no, no, no, no, no, you're ahead of the curve. And I go, okay, yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 2: By the way, for the poll question, Billy Joel six Grammys, Terry Bradshaw four super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: M thikes. Okay, Mariah Carey is on this list of greatest living songwriters. Okay, does Mariah care he wrote that silly Christmas song? I don't know what other songs that she wrote. I mean, I want to be fair to her, but did does anybody know the catalog from Mariah Carey? Marvin? Aren't you a Mariah Carey fan?

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Speaker 3: I told you that in confidence. But yes, well, she wrote a lot of her her hit songs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not up on her hit songs, but she did write that Christmas song. Yes, Dylan Always Be My Baby, that's a pretty good one. Dan Fantasy, Yeah, I just I just know the movie Glitter didn't do well, did it? But she's very successful and she can sing in five octubes I believe, I think five. I don't know. I think there's somebody on record who has eight octaves. I know, an eight octave player, yes, yes, not a five tool eight octave player.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think it's somebody from South America. Maybe find that out, because it it's supposed to be five is that's where very few can go. But I think there was somebody who did eight octaves.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Paul Georgia Brown, ironically a Brazilian singer, all right, holds a Guinness World Record for whitest vocal range eight octaves.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go to you. Yeah, I may be out of touch in sports, but this other stuff, the stuff that you don't need to know unless it's time for trivial pursuit. Jim Jackson, NBA college basketball analyst. Always great to have Jim back.

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Speaker 5: How are you feeling, I'm good, I'm good, just for you I got up early. You know, I'm on the West coast, So just let you know that if we didn't have this really good relationship.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, it's just I'm just saying, Jim, it's eight thirty out there. I mean yeah, I mean, you know it's eight thirty in LA.

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Speaker 5: It's not that's early.

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Speaker 1: It's not early.

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Speaker 5: It's early. It really is in I'm off season now, so now I don't have to Oh, I don't have to be up. So this is a strategic effort that I'm giving you right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm about a round of applause for Jim Johnson. Hero.

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Speaker 5: All right, come on now, damn, there you go.

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Speaker 1: He got eight thirty.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, I didn't get up at eight. I got up earlier to make sure I was ready. So that means, you know, I had to get up.

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Speaker 1: By the way, your good buddy Jason Kidd was on the show last week, and you know what, you know what he co signed on. Tell me that he sicked out on that shooting contest when he was with the Maps, that he what he remember he got sick? He didn't, he didn't. I flew down to Dallas. I told you the story. You didn't believe me, Marvin. Did Jason Kidd admit that he was afraid to shoot against me when he was with the Map?

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Speaker 3: Jim, I know you think DP is lying, but j Kid confirmed his story.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but how did he say?

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Speaker 3: It?

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Speaker 5: Is the key because he could just be plakating you to make sure that you keep your prayer.

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Speaker 1: So that's so now you're calling Jason Kidd a liar.

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Speaker 5: No, No, I said play Kate. See see I understand that the language is that Jason is that kind of player. I mean, and coach. It's all about the team. It's not about them. So if if you say it, Jay's like, okay, yes, Dan, you know what. I didn't want to get embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: And that's basically what he said.

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Speaker 5: Jim. Yeah see, and I said the same thing. You see how it works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying that you questioned me as a journalist and that hurt.

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Speaker 5: Well, I questioned the one on one part, and that's shooting. Now. I'm still I'm still waiting for that.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not playing him one on one. I'm just shooting.

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Speaker 5: No. Well, you and I I'm not passing up on that opportunity right now.

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Speaker 1: You should be able to beat. All right, let me talk some basketball. I don't know what Jalen Brown is talking about, but feels like you might get in trouble for saying this about the referees in the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: It clearly had an agenda, Like maybe because I spoke in those critical or the reps in the regular season, so you know how they responded like, we're gonna call every We're gonna, we're gonna you're gonna lead the playoffs and offensive foules. That's how that was the response from the officiating crew. You could clearly tell. And I've octoually spoke to some reps and they said it was it was agenda going into each game. So anytime Jalen brings his arm up, just from reputation, just call it. Paul George does the same thing. Jaylen Brenston does the same thing. Shit, I can go down the list. It's a basketball play, whether y'all believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this isn't necessarily complaining. This is accusing Jim and he's saying officials told him there was an agenda. What do you make.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's tough because if that's a conversation he had it's tough to dispute that. We don't know how accurate or if it is really accurate. Jaden Brown hasn't been one to accuse a player or rep of anything throughout his career. So for him to come out and say it now he's talking to an official he made say the statement makes it seem like he saw to an official that probably wasn't repping that game, maybe that he has a relationship with, because he's talking about not just that game, but how Jamon Brown plays. So this is something that an official told him that throughout the year that they picked up on. That's a tendency that they're gonna call. Okay, I don't I'm not gonna say I don't see I don't think that that's hard to believe. Okay, But in this perspective, it's like the hardest thing to do is to officiate the playoff game. Okay, And now I'm talking to an official, head official the Orlando Detroit series. How do you go into this game and how do you look at it? Because it's so physical, you can call every call you want. And the official told me said, listen, the freedom of movement is what's important to us. The off the ball stuff. Okay, when the ball is on the weak side of the court, of guys coming off a screen, how physical is a defender. That's what we look at. Once you get to the basket, that's going to dictate. I mean, a file is a file. Once you get to the basket, you got to you got to kind of discern that. But what they were looking at was more off ball movement, the screens, setting picks, how much a defender body hands are on an opponent. Those are the things that I got from officials, and they look at it in particular in the playoffs because they the official told me was that they want to allow the players to kind of dictate what happened out. A lot of what Jalen talked about could be some things that he heard during the course of the season. They lost emotions the day after all of these things. So I can't say that he's lying. I don't know, but I do know, like, can't use the.

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Speaker 1: Word you can't use the word agenda, can't use it and.

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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, when you use that, that's a little bit deeper.

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Speaker 1: And I want to know the official, if I'm the commissioner, tell me who these officials were that told you this. Then then we have a conversation. But this, I thought, you know, what, were you complaining when you're up three games to one? Were you complaining when you're up three games to two? You guys all would flop, you'll sell a foul. I mean, there's part of that in sports that they've acknowledged that they've rewarded that with a lot of these guys. And if Embiad's flopping, Embiad's not calling the foul against you when he he just flops. It's up to the official, not Joel embiid.

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Speaker 5: What but he You know, like any player, you take advantage of what the rule go. Okay, in that series, the pre throw disparity wasn't there. They both shot about nineteen to twenty three throws a game, so it's not like one side was shooting thirty and the other in Boston was only shooting fifteen. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So I think a.

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Speaker 5: Lot of times we as players get into a situation, especially after a loss, and you go back and look and say, well, this player is getting this called. Joelinb always got those calls. Certain players are always going to get certain calls. You Jaden Brown, Jason Tatem gonna get certain calls and other players don't get Now is it to the level that Joelen bid may get it? Maybe not, but the main players all I mean, I don't care. I don't care what sport it is. You know, in football, a quarterback may get hit a little bit more or get a little bit less, and they're going to get the benefit of it out just depending on who that quarterback is, right it like it or not. You know, it's in baseball, certain guys who are hitters are not going to get strikes called. And I'm not saying this right, but I don't think an agenda to me. Now again, I don't think the word like you said, the word agenda is a little bit too harsh. But that's Jalen's feelings right, wrong or indifferent based on the information that he's downloaded. And God so a lot of times when you ask an athlete to be honest and they give you an honest answer, then you want to push back on it. Well, he's telling you his story, his truth from what he said he's been told.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but if I acknowledge if he's telling the truth, then tell me the entire truth.

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Speaker 5: Tell me, tell you the name. Tell you the name, that's exactly.

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Speaker 1: Just tell me if they said there's an agenda. We're talking to Jim Jackson, NBA analyst. What chance do you give the Sixers against New York.

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Speaker 5: I'll give him a big chance. This is a you know in the reason why because I mean they got dudes, man, they can play, They play hard. You know, Maxi, Paul George is playing phenomenal basketball right now, Edgecombe, Kelly Oubra, and then of course they're all emb. So you know, in the playoffs, Dan, it's all about a lot of things happen because of matchups. Cleveland, Toronto, Toronto, you're like, well but length, size, athleticism, able to defend at the rim. That's a problem with Philly because you have Maxi, no one from a match up. Just think about the matchups, Okay, from New York to Philly. Emb and Maxie Force are going to force New York defensively into different rotation, which you're gonna open up other opportunities. They're not even talking about Paul George when he gets going. So you have three individuals that you gotta lean to tilt the court to. That's gonna cause you to get bodies off of bodies, so now often too rebound, second shot opportunity, open, spray out threes, whether that's in transition or a half poor. Often that's what Philadelphia does. And they put you in that situation as a team because of those three individuals.

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Speaker 1: And you don't have these back to back games. So embiid should be able to play in these games. And Paul George, what chance chances do you give the Lakers against Okac.

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Speaker 5: With no Luca? Can they get a game or two? I mean Lebron And it's funny because with Austin Reeves back, he gives you that offensive punch. Right with Luca back, if he gets back, they give you that offensive punch. I mean, there's no question about that. But on the flip side of that, their liabilities on the defensive end. And once this Lakers team was able to do against Houston, which is the perfect matchup in the first round. Again, I'll go back to matchup. Houston Rockets were perfect for the Lakers in that first round because not having a playmaker at point yard, for Houston, not having Kevin Durant, despite La not having Luca and Austin Reeves for bulk of that series, it played out well, well, okay, see is a different animal because they attack you and approach you in a totally different way, and they're gonna seek out mismatches. So they're gonna seek out Austin Reeves, even Lebron. Now you add Luca to that, Yes, he's gonna give you thirty two points a game. But defensively is where there's gonna there would be a drop off that in this series against that team what Oka See. Things that you got away with against Houston you can't get away with against Oka See. You just can't.

00:31:40
Speaker 1: What do you think Steve Kirk should do if the options are stay with the Golden State Warriors or go to ESPN.

00:31:50
Speaker 5: That's not because it's so nuanced within what Steve has been through and where he's at in his career. Because on one end, it's like popo bitch, popa bitch wanted to stay through Tim Duncan. We know we heard a lot of that noise, Like when Tim Duncan retires, Pop is out. Because they're tethered together, you know in some aspect well by Hooka by Kruk, Steve is kind of tethered to Drayvon and also step Step is like I can go another three or four years, you know what I'm saying, and continue to play. But I'll tell you what, it's a heck of a position to be in. Think about it. How many coaches who have been as successful as him that have struggled in the last couple of years still have that opportunity to make that kind of decision from the outside looking in. Whatever the relationship is with the organization, you can always have a backdrop and fall back to, say, I can be a coveted person that ESPN once, not only once, but once to pay. That's a heck of a position to be in. But I think he would step that relationship. I think knowing Steve that he'll sit down and talk to stef about what's next. Now. I think he's also tied to Draymond. If Steve Lee's I think there may be a shift in culture and that may affect Draymond Green on what happens in the future. So a lot there's a lot of moving parts within that dynamic. But I think he has to make a decision sooner than later.

00:33:23
Speaker 1: How about a round of applause again for Jim Janks Warrior.

00:33:28
Speaker 5: Here, you know last night was druft. It was you know, had a lot of stuff going on this weekend, and you know I figured that, you know, coming on your show. If I wasn't preparative prep, then you know, I can't represent myself. So get got up earlier than the normal to ensure that's just going to happen.

00:33:45
Speaker 1: So incredible, But.

00:33:46
Speaker 5: That's what you do for the people that you really respect.

00:33:48
Speaker 1: You know, once again, round of a p.

00:33:51
Speaker 5: Jackson, thank you, thank you.

00:33:53
Speaker 3: The Warrior, the Mavericks.

00:33:55
Speaker 1: He's not a Golden State Warrior. He's a warrior.

00:33:58
Speaker 5: He just I was though, you know, one of my eighteen thousand.

00:34:04
Speaker 1: Thanks for getting up.

00:34:07
Speaker 5: No, no problem, won't make you sweep.

00:34:09
Speaker 1: That's Jim Jackson, man hashtag warrior and he got up probably like eight o'clock. Shure. That's sacrifice. Last call for phone calls, what we learned, what's in store tomorrow.

00:34:24
Speaker 3: I'm just laughing at he's a warrior, he's a trailblazer, he's a.

00:34:27
Speaker 1: Kid, my mav He's a Laker. Take a break back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live. Reggie Miller will join us coming up tomorrow. Also, the first female trainer to win the Kentucky Derby, Sharid de Vaux, is going to join us and her horse, Golden Tempo. Don't I don't think the horse is going to that'd be great. Maybe we could see if Golden Temple can I ask for both, Todd, why not?

00:35:05
Speaker 5: I'll see what I can find out.

00:35:07
Speaker 1: Maybe if they're at the paddock and then the horse is just there eating and then she can be right next to him, that would be fun. Okay, and just throw that out there. Just trying to produce, Todd. That's all I do.

00:35:18
Speaker 5: I love it.

00:35:19
Speaker 1: Thank you. Uh Justin and Florida, Good morning, Justin. What's on your mind today?

00:35:26
Speaker 4: I'm just a good question six floor two of five. Yeah, so just a question about the Magic. You guys were talking about things earlier and they were just.

00:35:41
Speaker 5: A bysinal shooting.

00:35:42
Speaker 4: It was just embarrassing and it just got me thinking that they had guys that were doing things I felt like that were not in their comfort zone, like they had Bain trying to be an attacking score and that's not really his game.

00:35:53
Speaker 5: He's more of a spot up shooter.

00:35:55
Speaker 4: I feel like, And I was just wondering what you guys thought about maybe, like, say, we're out. We got Tim Durant based off of Austin Rivers and Thomas the other day about how they looked like they played better without him and then it possibly hold him out because they didn't want to mess up the flow they had going on. But I just wanted to see what you guys thought about that.

00:36:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know the inner workings of the magic, but they were good enough to be up three to one. Nobody was making any excuses when you're up three to one. There wasn't an agenda against Jalen Brown. When you're up three to one. Let's see row in Missouri. Hi, Rowe, what's on your mind today?

00:36:35
Speaker 9: Hi? Dan? Love your show? A longtime listener for ten and a high and five pounds. I love your show, love, I absolutely love it. But this New York Times Song Singer Songwriter list, what about Neil Young?

00:36:54
Speaker 1: Absolutely Neil Young still rocking in the free world. But yeah, ro Neil Young, great great songwriter. I mean that's quite a catalog. He's still out on the road. Notice he's seventy eight. Maybe Darryl Hannah is keeping him young. They're married, they are together. Oh yeah, they've been together for a while.

00:37:19
Speaker 5: He's eighty years old.

00:37:20
Speaker 1: Eighty yeah. I saw him last year? Was that the year before that? I didn't get to see Bob Seger. I did get to see Tom Petty in the last year of his life. So Bob Seeger was one I didn't get to see. But I'm trying to think who else is on that list that. I don't know if there's anybody else that I go, I gotta see them, but Bob Seger was one of those that And I have a picture of my mother. I got to make sure when I say this, don't go a backstage with Bob Seger because one of my older brothers worked in radio. He was a disc jockey in Columbus and he was backstage with Bob Seger and my mom came to see my brother and went to the concert. There's a picture of my mom with Bob Seger, and I don't know what happened. I mean, I never asked my mom what goes on backstage stays backstage? Mom?

00:38:31
Speaker 3: Happy Mosday in advance, Yes.

00:38:33
Speaker 1: Happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day. This day in sports history, Paul.

00:38:38
Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen, Steph Curry won his first of two straight MVPs. And I'm gonna get a little quiz here for you, Dan, because I think you're gonna get this one. The first ABA title won by the Pittsburgh Pipers sixty seven sixty eight season. They beat the New Orleans Buccaneers in four games. The MVP he was, the league MVP and series MVP.

00:39:00
Speaker 1: Connie Hawkins, Tony Hawkins.

00:39:02
Speaker 5: It's correct, bo.

00:39:05
Speaker 1: I thought John Brisker played for the Uh oh did he play for the Condors?

00:39:12
Speaker 2: Yes, a Pittsburgh Condo.

00:39:13
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so this was the Pipers. The one millionth run in Major League Baseball was scored on this day, nineteen seventy five. This guy went on to be a very important executive. Bob Watson the one millionth run I mentioned earlier. John Sterling passing away. Do we have a little bit of John Sterling passing away at the age of eighty seven, one out, going on bottom of the eighth one nothing Seattle, It'll be a free too.

00:39:46
Speaker 2: Swung on at it hi in the here to dig right hot bars high headis far head.

00:39:51
Speaker 1: Of of.

00:39:54
Speaker 3: Burney the boom Home brun a short way.

00:39:58
Speaker 5: In the Right Deal face.

00:40:09
Speaker 1: John Sterling passing away at the age of eighty seven. I've just been informed that I'm an idiot. Neil Young is Canadian, so he wouldn't be taught one of the top thirty American songwriters still living. I got the songwriter part and still living. I just screwed up in the Canadian part.

00:40:30
Speaker 2: I have that he has co citizenship, he's Canadian and American apology retracted.

00:40:36
Speaker 1: WHOA, Maybe I'm not an idiot, possibly not an idiot? All to live on Sugar Mountain? What do you think, Todd?

00:40:45
Speaker 5: I love it?

00:40:45
Speaker 1: Thank you, of course you would. No, we're not doing the Bob Dylan thing. You should love Bob Dylan. What did you learn today? Todd said that joelnb Do has to imploy Sixers fans not to sell their playoff tickets to Knicks fans.

00:41:02
Speaker 6: Dylan, would you learn today? If I wasn't here, I'd probably be a forklift operator or something.

00:41:07
Speaker 3: Jim Jackson still doesn't believe you.

00:41:09
Speaker 1: Oh the Jason Kidd thing. He's gonna learn? Man, Paul, what did you learn? Dual citizenship? Thanks for your phone calls, emails, tweets, the all around support Fritzie, Marv, Dylan, Paula, Yours truly talk to you tomorrow