2025-02-25- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 3: Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Tuesday, February twenty fifth. I'm Matt Jones here live at the KS Bar and Grill on an absolutely beautiful day. Feels like it's not spring yet, but it feels like we've got, you know, the the makings of a wonderful day. You can give us sell the Clarks Puppet Shop Fall Line eight five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is seven seven two seven four five two five four In this edition sponsored by the t j Smith loves you. Call TJ. He'll make them pay. We got Travis here from Marion County. We got a couple here from Paintsville. You can come on out and have lunch today or just hang out and watch the show. Well, we like when you buy lunch because this is ultimately a restaurant. Ryan Lemon, you put gel in your hair today? Is that because it's a big day?

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Speaker 4: I think you know. It was the first time I put anything in my hair since like the nineties. Really, I usually just towl dry because I know you.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it this morning?

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Speaker 4: Well, Jill saying, like had a bottle that had like still an inch left in it. He was throwing it away like there's still.

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Speaker 3: Some in there. Why did you say today I'm gonna put it in my hair?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's you. You have very I mean your new plugs are slicked, yeah, and it bunches them together.

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Speaker 4: I really thought Mario was going to be here today and I want to look good for pictures, and then he's not here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well it's a different look for you. I will say, the geled in hair is a different look for you.

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Speaker 5: Drew.

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Speaker 6: I've thrown off I've known Ryan at least years, never known him to have any product in his hair, never really known him Tacoma's hair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, look a little bit like you're going in for the school picture, you know, and and mom like put put a little something in your hair.

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Speaker 4: Well, I might start doing it every day. You guys keep bragging on me. I think I'm looking pretty stylish like a movie star.

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Speaker 3: I mean you should, yeah, maybe you should. Well, all right, so we're gonna make this and ask anything Tuesday. You could call in and ask any question uh UK basketball or other related uh just not politics, anything but politics. But you can ask anything else you want, uh eight five twenty two eighty seven or on the text machine seven seven two seven seven four five two five four. But before we start, uh, Ryan, a little bit of an announcement, which.

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Speaker 4: To hear any big announcement, Yes, sir, go for it.

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Speaker 3: So h it was just announced, this got done last week. But it just got announced this morning by our heart that we uh that I've extended my deal uh with iHeart for five more years to do Kentucky Sports Radio through the end of twenty twenty nine. Our fifteenth anniversary is in September so this will take us basically to our to our twentieth anniversary. I'm excited about it. We got it. It took a while, but we got to where we wanted to be. And so, you know, four years and I guess what ten months of KSR left that I'm excited to do.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna clap, yes, and then yeah Ptsville.

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Speaker 3: Let kind of hope the three people here would clap, but they sat there silently, so that's okay. But nevertheless, it's good news.

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Speaker 4: Well on behalf of me and my family. Thank you very much for signing that deal. I'm excited. Thank you very much. We can survive and eat dinner in the next five years. A five year deal, now, hang on, all that's true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is so madd I mean, like you still have to work.

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Speaker 4: For Oh gotcha. I didn't think about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well now now you guys, now you all are up to the plate.

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Speaker 6: Fires in three days, yes, so so so now you guys are up to the plate.

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Speaker 3: But uh, you know, I'm sure it'll work out and I'm excited to to continue going.

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Speaker 4: You seem so excited about it. You know, there was some atta you know.

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Speaker 3: That, so if you were to like go back if last last March, when we walked off the court in Pittsburgh after loss to Oakland, I had in my mind that I was probably gonna be done, that I was ready to like do something else or at least try some things. It felt, especially once a few days later that it came out that that Cal was going to be back. I just kind of thought, you know, it's probably good. Uh, it's probably good for me to at least take a year and go do something else. I had already planned that trip, and I thought, you know, I'm going to confirm in my mind on that trip. But but my general response was to was to not And then you know, obviously things chang quickly. You ended up with Mark Pope here. There was a lot of energy which I could feel, which was good. And then I did my trip and I had it was really exactly what I needed to do. And then I came back and I thought, you know what, you know, I'm only in my mid forties. I'm not ready to move to a retirement home yet. So then we started talking and we're able to make it happen.

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Speaker 4: Do you think it was during your trip that you kind of came to realization I want to stay for a lot, like another five years during my.

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Speaker 3: Trip that I it was during my trip that I realized, like, okay, so life is short, right, and I want to be able to do more things than I mean, this job has wetted me to a place for fifty to twenty years. Really, I mean, I you know, I would take those two weeks and drive around the country and that was about it. And I worked with that hart and they did a good job of like giving me the freedom like from April to August, I'll be doing this show the normal amount of time, but I might all not always be here, and they gave me some freedom to do that. And then just you know, listen, it's a new era and it's exciting. I mean, how could you not be wrapped up? You know? That Sunday at rapp Ana was like I called it a big blue It was like a revival, you know, a tent revival in some ways. But it was for the fans. I think it was for the program, it was for Mark, and on a personal level, it was for me. And I was like, okay, there is a path. I could not see myself doing what we did last year again. I really could, because after every game, if we lost, it was my fault to a lot of people, and if we won, they just go eat it. And I was like, I just can't. I can't do that anymore. And then that ended up. So thank you to Arkansas for also that. I think that was chicking.

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Speaker 6: It was a congratulations. But me, you walked right into my question. Did the public reception you got in April kind of help?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 6: That was nice, but I remember everybody was real nasty, but there was a lot of nastiness.

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Speaker 3: And then that was nice. That was nice, and that certainly may reminded you, hey, the people that yell at you online are a minority. But it was also just a part. I mean, I started this website when I was twenty six years old while also being a lawyer, and for twenty straight years, I never stopped, Like I mean never stopped. There was a period where, you know, for fourteen years where I wrote every single day, and then you know, when you took a chance to stop and you were like, okay, let's reprioritize. And then when I came back, I realized you can still do this show well and have a life, and so I was.

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Speaker 6: Like yeah, let's keep going, and you miss Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Let's be honest, but listen, I would miss if I didn't do it, I would miss you all. I mean, I'm when I was at my worst health crisis, the happiest two hours of my day was this, right. I never didn't enjoy doing this, and so yeahed to keep going and like, yeah, being with you all. I mean, how many shows keep the core group? That's true for thirteen years. I mean the first two years were a little different. I was with Zach for a year, and then I was with Shannon and random people for a year. But really, for thirteen years it's been this core group and they're just you know, there are not too many shows that could do that.

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Speaker 4: No, you listen to the successful, even the successful radio shows, their host are together like maybe two three years tops.

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Speaker 3: Because they end up hating each other, Like I mean, I've seen that from ESPN almost all, I mean almost all national shows. The host all end up hating each other. And we like each other and we are friends. Except for Shannon not invite us to the Christmas party. We always get along very well, and it's you know, so it's a great.

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Speaker 2: To get five really nice five more years for me to invite you to one of the parties, and then.

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Speaker 3: I can start coming when we don't work together. That's fair enough.

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Speaker 6: This morning he called us work friends. By the way, Yeah, you're not real friends.

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Speaker 2: You called us work for end guys after work and grab a beer with you. Ever, it's always like I see you guys.

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Speaker 3: Were true though we do. It's just we're in different places. But we You and I once a year hang out, get wet.

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Speaker 6: It's work, and you know, there's a handful of times I think the key to success is across country road trips with airbnbs. Really that if national guys, if Mike and Mike had done that, they'd still be pitching subway in the mornings on ESPN. I think that helps bring us together to.

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Speaker 3: And there's a Let me also say this. I've heard a lot more of this since April, but you know, people have been saying this forever. The role this show plays in other people's life and the things they're going in is immensely gratifying. I mean the role when people say, you know, I had a family member sick and we sit and listen to this, or you know, I will get text messages literally five to six a week of someone who says to me, I'm going through X, Y or Z and listening to this helped me. Or there's a lot of lonely people in the world, but who feel like so like all that stuff is is a huge part of why I really enjoy it.

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Speaker 4: The thing that always gets me too is when, like if somebody says, my dad was in failing health. But the one thing we talked about every day we go the show gets me every time.

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Speaker 3: And we've and this is a testament to bringing on Mario. We have picked up in the last year a younger audience. I can feel it. I mean I can feel it with those videos and bringing in Mario has helped us reach a generation. There had become a point that I wondered if like that, like people twenty five and under, if we just like we're old now and we'll never connect to them. But Mario has helped make that happen in a way that I think is really really exciting. And so now you can get eighty year olds and fifty year olds, and sports radio in general in this country gets thirty five to fifty five year old.

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Speaker 4: Men and that's it.

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Speaker 3: And that's it. Yep, this does a lot more, and I think that's part of what makes it great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the number show is still growing. It's fun. I think the bar, you know, we actually get to see like kids coming here to get Ryan Lemon's autographed like that lets us know there's a little bit of future. And we still have some unfed finished business, some brackets, some some sopranos podcasts.

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Speaker 3: We were then we were the number one radio station in Kentucky last time for twenty five to fifty four year old women. There's no sports show in America that never happened. There's none. There's no sports show that's in the top ten in that demographic and we're number one, So like, how can you not be excited and listen? This has been This has been a fun year. I mean even though we're eighteen and nine or whatever, and there have been years people would say, well, that's not elite. I think you got to go back from me to Lot maybe the last team before COVID as a team that I've just enjoyed the ride as much as I've enjoyed this one.

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Speaker 4: For basketball, I think there's no doubt there's been some rough seasons, which led us to have some rough times on this radio show because people were so frustrated. Like I said before, we were a fractured fan base and we felt it on this show. By the way, the people that called in, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: This is such a fun group, not just with Pope being here and everything starting new, everything fresh, that's always gonna give you no energy. But whatever happens with this team, it's one of my favorites. I kind of said that last year too, and it really ended poorly, But I mean this, this group is one that I already will will remember for a long time and there'll be among my favorites.

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Speaker 3: Well, I want to thank you guys for being like great partners, friends, co hosts, for the last, for you all for ever, Shannon fourteen years. This to you guys thirteen years, and you know, thanks to everybody who's played a part of it, Billy and Mario more recent additions, but have been great and really to the audience. You know, Uh, this is I never would have thought twenty five years ago that this would be my life. I went to law school and I thought I'm just gonna be like maybe if I'm lucky, I'll be in a courtroom and be arguing somewhere. And this is so much more fulfilling for me. And it's because of those of you that read the blog during the Patterson Lucas Uh, you know, Alan Cutler chasing Billy Gillespie, John cal Perry getting hired, the National Championship Platoons, Mark Stoops, you know, all the way through the College World Series last year to the new Mark Pope Revolution. You know, it's because of you all this has happened. And I'm excited to do five more years, but also thankful to everybody that helped make it happen. If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, text machine is seven seven two seven seven four five two five four, we might as well get started with the next five years.

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Speaker 4: It starts today.

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Speaker 3: It's exactly right. It's ask Anything Tuesday, and we'll take a break of be right back. This is KSR. Welcome back. It is can Tell You Sports Radio. If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, uh, text machine seven seven two seven seven four five two five four.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Some some things coming on the text machine. One person rights, Matt, Why do you guys keep doing radio? Don't you think you should do other medium mediums. Radio is too old school for me. Well, first of all, no, because radio is the best medium radio, you know, I don't think radio and podcasts are different. Radio does have commercials live, but then we put it up on podcasts and if you hate the commercials, you can just wait and do the podcast. It's live. I like the fact you can react to things live. I also think when podcast when for those of you that listen to podcasts, they do live podcast, guess what that is? A radio show, like, like, that's the same thing. Now. I do think eventually we'll get it to where it streams like the YouTube on YouTube. I think that will eventually happen one day. I don't know. I don't know if it'll be like in the next year, but I do think that'll happen at some point. But to me, radio slash podcast because I do consider that the same thing. It's the most growing media. TV's die, but radio you can take it with you. And I also think I've said this many times, when you listen to someone on the radio, like that's who they are. You can fake it Ryan on television. You can't fake it on radio, Like you're gonna end up being who you are in some form.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a two hour live show, so you can show your personality. And when you're doing sports on TV on a newscast, you have three minutes to condense everything in three minutes. Were on this radio show. We've got a two hour show. You can kind of be yourself.

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Speaker 3: And podcasts can be edited. I've radio cannot, so like if somebody says something they wish they didn't, well you can kind of manipulate that, but on radio, like it's out there, it's gone. You might edit it after the fact, but it's still went out there. So like here, you know it is what. It's a different kind of thing that can be part of the fun. This guy next to me sometimes might say something backwards in a podcast. Would edit that and let him fix it, you know you Ryan. When Saturday Night Live on their fiftieth anniversary, they did the in memoriam, rather than putting up pictures of people that died, they put up skits. Pictures of skits that wouldn't play in today's world that were maybe a little problematic, And I thought, you know, KSR could have the Ryan Lemon version of that Ryan Lemon things that have been said. You know, I've talked about this a lot. But when I was thinking about running for senate and I had to pay for my own background check, and it was like fifty pages, forty five of which were old KSR posts, and you sit there and you read it. Most of them weren't mine. Most of them were this guy sitting over here and another friend and another friend of mine. But sitting there reading it, I thought even stuff I'd written, I was like, I can't believe I ever wrote that. But you know, things change over time, and things that seemed over okay then seemed less okay. Now sometimes Ryan Lemon, I think has some of those on the air.

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Speaker 4: I just watched a movie and there was some scenes in the movie like okay that would not fly in today's world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could. There's just some things that I mean, there were some things that I said that I like, look back and go what was I thinking, like, you know, it's just that's what happens. Well.

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Speaker 6: The Hangover one of the biggest movies of the year. Their trailer had some things we don't say anymore. If you're go back and you're like that was in the movie trailer, like that was on TV as a commercial.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean that's you know, that's part of part of growing one person rights, Matt. I was listening to your very first KSR show, and I remember thinking, this guy will never make it. He's too nervous. I was really nervous those in those days, especially when we started, because you know, I was on every crappy station in Louisville for years and then they finally put me on iHeart and I was like, well, I can't screw this up. So I was very nervous when we first started. If you go to listen to those shows, it sounds like a different show. Like it just it doesn't even sound like the same thing. I mean, I don't even sound like the same person.

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Speaker 4: You did podcast for how long before you did the radio show, the one on Well.

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Speaker 3: I named this thing Kentucky Sports Radio because I one day wanted to be on the radio, huh. And we created a podcast very soon after. I've told this story a lot, and then I'll shut up and we'll talk about the game. I went to every radio station, every single one of them in Lexington, Louisville, and I went to ones in like Winchester, Nicholasville, Harrisburg. I physically walked into every station in these cities and said, give me a show, I'll do it for free, and every one of them said no, And so I was like, you know what, all right, I'll just do one myself. And I had heard a radio show talk about the idea of podcast Adam Curry, former MTVVJ. I was like, well, I could do that. I think I'm not saying this to be like bragging. I think it's the truth. I think we had the first podcast in Kentucky because it didn't even exist, like it wasn't even a medium that existed, and I created. I went to the people at Kentucky Sports Report and I said, can I take this podcast I'm making and put it on here because I need somewhere to host it. I didn't even know what that word meant, right, but and so I went to him and said, you don't even have to pay me. Can I just put it here? And they said no, we don't want that. And I went, well, now what? And I was at Hubby's house in his basement and Hubby goes, well, he could just make you a website. And then Kentucky Sports Radio really just existed for me to have somewhere to put my podcast on. And then I was like, well, now I can write stuff. And then that's kind of how it happened. But it happened because every single station in Kentucky told me no, and I was like, all right, well then I'll just do it myself.

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Speaker 4: Kicking themselves now, ain't it?

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know yet that's them.

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Speaker 6: But I kind of missed the days of the podcast in Humby's basement when his wife would be folding clothes and uh next to us.

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Speaker 3: His wife hated it. His wife was like, what are you all doing? Why? Why are you Why are you doing this? Like I got laundry to do. And then one time we picked Drew up drunk at tin roof and brought him to the house.

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Speaker 6: No, that's the time why I was drunk, definitely, But you all brought a guy that you thought was my friend.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, that's a true story. We spoke. Drew was at ten roof for like a soccer US soccer guy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, World Cup started. Barely knew Drew, it's my birthday.

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Speaker 3: And I went to pick him up to have him come to the podcast. And this dude just got in the car with us, and I assumed it was Drew's friend. It was just a random guy who got in the car. And then we got out at Hubby's house and there's just this random guy sitting there and I thought he was with you all and I thought he was with you.

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Speaker 6: We didn't know each other very well.

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Speaker 3: And I looked at Drew and I was like, so, who's your friend? And Drew's like, I don't know that guy. I have never heard this story. He's just sitting in Humby's basement, this random guy. You might be listening right now, a random guy. And then finally I was like, dude, you gotta go like you. We don't know you.

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Speaker 6: I barely knew Hubby, barely knew you.

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Speaker 4: I've never heard that.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. So there you go. If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. One more thing about about the deal. I will also be doing a one hour weekly show that will be non sports where I interview people. It'll air on WHAS and WLAP, but then also be available on podcasts that'll start May. But it'll be like my old Matt Jones podcast, but I'll be doing that once a week both on on radio but also on podcasts.

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Speaker 4: Very cool. I knew you that was in the works. I don't know if you were ready to announce that, so I didn't ask you about it. But that's gonna be something exciting for you to do a different avenue of what we do here.

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Speaker 3: Well, and it's it's just gonna be a it will not be UK sports, It'll get to be other stuff. All right, Shannon, who's up first?

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Jen?

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Speaker 3: Jen? Go ahead.

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Speaker 7: So I am originally from Seattle, Washington, and I'm a die hard. Don't don't hang up on me now, I'm a die Okay.

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Speaker 3: I just got I just got a marriage. Go go.

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Speaker 7: Okay. So here's the thing. My husband converted me over to a Kentucky basketball fan. So as a world renowned attorney and also a world renowned radio star, what would be your closing argument to get me to turn over to a a Kentucky football fan as well?

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Speaker 3: From what what's your team?

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Speaker 7: The volunteers go, Because here's.

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Speaker 3: What I would do. I would go to a Tennessee game and I would look around at those human beings and say, do I want to be associated with these people? Because if I am a Tennessee fan. I the world will look at me like I look at these human beings. If you want to be a person of importance, Yes, you cheer for Kentucky over Tennessee records, regardless in football. We'll be right back. TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ. He'll make them pay.

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Speaker 2: Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

00:23:13
Speaker 1: Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. Eight five nine two eight twenty two eighty seven. I have people tell me the first time they ever learned of this show. That's kind of interesting. If you have an interesting story. Seven seven two seven seven four five two five four. What's the first time you ever learned of this here's a couple. All right, One person rites, Matt. I was listening to the bt I sucks first show. I was a Louisville fan. When I heard the show was coming on, I thought it was a Louisville show. I got really mad when I rosed it was a Kentucky show. But I've still listened for twenty years, even though I hate Kentucky. That's what you know you're doing?

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Speaker 4: Your answer, Yeah, that's a great answer.

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Speaker 3: What person, rites Matt. First time I heard of KSR was two thousand and six. I was at a UK football game and a really attractive woman came and handed me a piece of paper that said listen to the Kentucky Sports Radio podcast. It's exactly right. We did do that. Yeah, we were trying to figure out how to get the word out, and me and Hubby and Rob Goodell would walk around and hand out little cards that said listen to Kentucky Sports Radio. Nobody cared. Like nobody cared. They were like, get this dude with the mullet away from me, Like nobody cared. So then somebody said, you know, you ought to get women that are attractive to carry it around. And I knew a young woman in lex in Louisville. She and her friends. We paid them like fifty dollars and they each and they walked around. Had a lot more people take the comments after that was that was a lot more. That was a good beast of early marketing to realize you got your money's worth with that one person that's still listening almost twenty years later. They had to work twenty years later and they still still are listening.

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Speaker 4: Don't feel like we're doing our job. We can get fans of other teams.

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Speaker 3: He loves saying that shit and that's the phrase. He loves the phrase doing our jobs.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, older fans, fans of up the teams, they listen every day or tune in. We know we're doing our job.

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Speaker 3: All right, Let's before I go the phones, let's talk for a second about Mark Pope's radio show last night. Mark Pope said in his radio show that Lamont Butler and Jackson Robin Robinson were both progressing to play, which I think was a very good sign. That's the first time he's said with Robinson specifically that he thought he was gonna play. He's kind of hinted that with Butler, but he did not say it with Robinson. They both are. This is kind of if you were listening to the scuttle Button Monday, you kind of heard this. He said. Butler is practicing, Robinson is starting to practice. No word on if they play Wednesday. I'm still gonna put my money on we see Butler against Auburn. I don't know that we see him tomorrow night, but we'll see Robinson. I think takes a game or two later. But drew very good signs at least from Mark Pope's comments last night.

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Speaker 6: To me, definitely, especially the Robinson part. I've always felt pretty good about Butler getting back at some point, but Robinson has been very mysterious and said we're hopeful for both, and he said Butler was still a little bit limited and that Jackson is doing skill work, but the fact that they're both out there practicing is a great sign with a couple weeks left in the season.

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Speaker 3: Great sign, exactly what you want to hear. He also then was asked by a caller. Good question by the caller about Amary Williams and why doesn't he play more, and Mark Pope gave his answer. It's not an answer that I necessarily like, but at least we know the answer, and it's exactly what the guy who did the TV told me. He said, we did studies and Amary Williams is at his most efficient between twenty two and twenty eight minutes, and we're trying to figure out whether we can get him to twenty eight or it's more like twenty two. I didn't like that answer because I think it needs to be more than twenty eight, and the fact that twenty two is even on the table. Scares me a little bit. But he is gonna take the view that he wants to play these guys at maximum efficiency, and I think, whereas my inclination would be eighty percent of Mai is better than one hundred percent Garrison, he's looking for one hundred percent from everybody, and so I think that's what we're gonna see. I don't think we're gonna see more than twenty eight minutes a game from Amari.

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Speaker 4: With I think Amari, to me, he's been the MVP of the SEC season during the SEC player, I think he's been the best player, he says. Butler and Robinson's been out, He's he's been then the guy. And so why not, you know, increase your sample size. Then why not play him over thirty minutes and just see how he does and maybe maybe they're the stats will move a little bit for you and you can get you get more minutes out of him.

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Speaker 3: Well, but he's not doing that. It was clear when he said that, he basically was like, this is what it is, and he seemed it's interesting. I wouldn't use the word stubborn with Mark Pope because Mark Pope's all of his opinions I think come from data, and data can change, whereas I think John Caliperry his opinion wasn't gonna change no matter what. But I do think my man is beholden to the data, and I'd rather have that than somebody just beholden totally their gut. I would say a mix is probably best, but we are going to be beholding to the numbers.

00:28:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was ready for that question, saying that it becomes clear that Amari is not as efficient once he hits that certain mark, and he's averaging twenty two this season, so he's on the low end of that twenty two.

00:28:22
Speaker 3: To But I would ask him, I would wonder, and I'm going I want to ask him this during the off season. Obviously, Amar at like twenty four minutes is going to be more efficient than Amar at thirty five. But really, for me, the mathematical question is those eleven minutes between twenty four and thirty five, is Amari more efficient than one hundred percent branding Garrison? I mean, to me, that's the question is, would you what is more efficient Garrison at his fullest or Amar a little tired? And I don't know the answer to that. Question.

00:28:57
Speaker 4: We've seen Garrett Garrison at times played pretty well, but the overall I think I would take an eighty percent of Bari over that.

00:29:05
Speaker 3: So that to me, he answered it without answering what is actually my question about it?

00:29:11
Speaker 6: If that makes sense, Yeah, and I would still want to know, like, do you ever think about the combinations you have in because Okay, maybe his minutes are never going to be thirty something, but we all know that at least once a game we look up and there's four dudes in they can't guard, or three guys they can't score, and it's almost like, I wish you would work on the combos a little more. But obviously he knows a lot more than I do. And that was a clear answer if him explaining a question a lot of people have had.

00:29:33
Speaker 3: Uh, So we play Oklahoma on Wednesday. Oklahoma is reeling their coach. I mean, you want to talk about a game where the other side has a ton at stake. Oklahoma beat Mississippi State, so if they can beat us, I think they got a pretty good shot at the tournament. Porter Moser, the coach probably needs to make the tournament to keep his job, So you could make an argument that that coach which goes into the locker room and says, boys, we come out of here tonight on ESPN. If we win, we're in the tournament and I might be your coach next year. And if we lose, neither of those things will be true. We better show up because like that's gonna I mean, they're four and ten, but four and ten can still make the tournament because they were undefeated in the non conference.

00:30:26
Speaker 4: That's what scares me about this game really. I mean, you know, we kind of had a little bit of that and we went down to Texas. It was meant a lot more to Texas than it did to us. I kind of feel the same way Tomorrow night, big game. Fro tega Oway going back to his old school and playing against his teammates, so maybe he'll be able to pull everybody through and win the game.

00:30:41
Speaker 6: And they showed they're not quitting on moser A Mississippi State or had them at home, but I mean they had lost five straight, you know, three and ten at that point. That could have easily been a time that they were done. And by beating you know, I think Missippi State was twenty first. That showed that they're willing to fight for him because it has not. I mean when they made that higher, that's the old Loyola coach. You know, he's got one of the most famous runs that exist, and they haven't been to the tournament with him. So do you think seat it's very hot?

00:31:03
Speaker 3: Do you think we're an underdog?

00:31:08
Speaker 6: Maybe like a point. I think it'll be a very close spread either way. I would probably make Kentucky give point and a half, but it won't shock me. I could be very wrong there. I just it's I don't know how the Desert reacts to these injuries. Like if we were healthy, I would definitely think, well, the.

00:31:22
Speaker 3: Desert got it wrong last game because they put it out six and a half and it ended up twelve and a half at tip and was a thirteen point game, So the Desert was right.

00:31:30
Speaker 6: I had Alabama under ninety six and a half. They scored ninety six. Ye, nobody scores ninety.

00:31:35
Speaker 3: Well, I say the desert Desert got it wrong, but the Better's got it to where it needed to go. Who's next? Shit Farmer, Steve, Farmer, Steve, how are you?

00:31:43
Speaker 5: I'm fine? First time long time you guys deserved the extension and congratulations, Thank you. I have a I think perfect name for the team. It's organic, it's a literative think about it. Popes Pickups. That's what he did. No team. Hey, you guys want to play ball. We're gonna have fun. We're gonna be at Kentucky. They're gone at the end of the year.

00:32:10
Speaker 3: All right, appreciate the call. You know, doesn't quite hit it with me, But you know that's okay. Popes Pickups. I'm sticking you know, the Mountain Mob. But I think you get one good nickname out of a season. You just roll with it, and we got Mountain Bomb. But I think we should just be happy with that, right, we got one that was good.

00:32:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't doing it for me, Doug Popes Pickups. I'm not gonna go with that. Wow, Randy Jackson, Yeah.

00:32:38
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Like? What? What? What was that doing it for me? Though?

00:32:41
Speaker 4: He doing it for me, Doug Popes Pickups.

00:32:47
Speaker 3: Just I just didn't expect to hear it like that from you. So uh soy product hair? Yeah?

00:32:59
Speaker 6: Was it like a pays Yeah?

00:33:02
Speaker 3: Likewere aren't thou.

00:33:04
Speaker 4: Look like a lotion? He did pull it out of a bottle and put it in your hand and put.

00:33:07
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00:34:26
Speaker 6: I don't remember that one.

00:34:27
Speaker 3: You had Wildcat Thunder. You had what was the guy who had all the links? Walter's Wild World Kentucky. Yeah, Danny Jets Inner Circley Jets Inner Circles. Miss Danny Jets Inner Circle produced one of the best KSR episodes of all time. By the way, I don't wonder what shout out to Danny Jet wherever you are.

00:34:46
Speaker 6: I miss Aaron's links. We actually saw him in Michigan last year on our road trip.

00:34:52
Speaker 3: That's right. What else can you think of other old school, old school block Kentucky That was That was Mark mcge That was Mark Margaret's side, Kentucky Sports Report, which I don't know if that still exists or not, but that was that was the site for a long time.

00:35:07
Speaker 4: That was big for a while, Kentucky's Ports Report. I remember the first time I found out about you. I've held destroy before, Gabe Pendleton said. Judge. Gabe said, hey, man, check out this blog. My friends, my college friends, and my other friends have put this together. You're really gonna like it. That's how I found out about it.

00:35:22
Speaker 3: When Person Rights twenty fourteen, I was working on a garbage truck and the guy I worked with that day made me listen. I hated him for a while, but over time I ended up liking one person Rights mad. I heard a KSR on the Big Blue Dawn documentary during Cal's first year. You remember that documentary.

00:35:39
Speaker 6: I just saw that when I watched it, but I have it on DVD. That's a documentary.

00:35:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the documentary of the of the Wall Cousins year. I wonder if you can still get that. I'm not sure. Can I tell everybody about an in coming disaster that's going to happen two weeks from tomorrow? Uh?

00:35:57
Speaker 4: Oh?

00:35:57
Speaker 3: So the SEC tournament, you know you can buy passes to the whole tournament, but they started a few years ago, and it has been a pretty good idea. They just let you in on Wednesday night. A couple of years they did it for free. Now it's like twenty bucks or something like that. But there's no assigned seating on Wednesday night. Well here's a little secret. What if Kentucky plays Wednesday at one? Okay, what if Kentucky plays Wednesday at one and fans who have bought seats, your seat is not a sign for Wednesday night. So your seat may say you have a seat on like row one, but you do not. If you get there, someone may be sitting there and they take your seat. And a lot of people, I'll go so far as to say most people will have no idea and they're gonna come in and do the whole Uh what Cedric the Entertainer two? I got those two right here. It's four and five like one of those. And then they're gonna go, sorry, I ain't leaving. When they created that policy, they couldn't have thought Kentucky was gonna play.

00:37:09
Speaker 4: Oh so what if.

00:37:10
Speaker 3: The first game, all of you that have books yours and it'll be on the seat number that you have it, but you don't have it because it'll be first come, first serve, and if you're if Kentucky plays on Wednesday and you're going get there at eleven at whatever that time they open, you might sit with the best seats you've ever set for a Kentucky game ever, because it's first come, first serve. We don't hope, we wish. Yeah, that's from us, that skit.

00:37:40
Speaker 6: I actually told some friends just two days ago. I was like, Hey, there's a chance Wednesdays in play, and you can go to ticket Master right now for twenty American dollars and buy a ticket for general admission and potentially be watching Kentucky versus who.

00:37:52
Speaker 3: Will This is what I would say to all of you. Mississippi State and US are Todd. If we finish Todd, we will be one ahead of them. But their schedule's easy. If we lose Tomorrow night, there's a decent chance we're playing on Wednesday now. I want us to win Tomorrow night, but if we lose, I would get on Ticketmaster right after the game and just buy a Wednesday Sea. It's twenty bucks. You might have a chance to sit in the front row for a Kentucky game because it's general admission. So I think, I mean, for me, what's the worst that happens? You end up going col might be playing that round anyway, right, But there is a real chance that there is going to be absolute chaos in Nashville Wednesday at one o'clock because Kentucky might play for a general admission game that hasn't whin's the When has Kentucky played where it's general admission?

00:38:53
Speaker 4: I don't know I ever ever, even Blue White game you've got assigned z's.

00:38:58
Speaker 6: I'm shocked they didn't change the policy with the new format where there's more games, I mean, there's gonna be ranked teams on Wednesday. I'm surprised they're doing general missions.

00:39:04
Speaker 3: So I would just say to you, if we lose tomorrow night, you should be upset, but get on Ticketmaster. You'll never see a Kentucky First of all, you'll they'll change this rule if this happens. Yeah, they will, which means you'll never see a Kentucky game ever again for this cost us and then the postseason, yeah, come on. So just a little heads up of what what could be to come if we lose tomorrow night. Who's next?

00:39:31
Speaker 1: Mark Anthony?

00:39:32
Speaker 3: Mark Anthony, how are.

00:39:33
Speaker 8: You big Good morning, Matthew Andrew Shannon. Hey, Matt, I'm so happy were going to have another five years. But it brought me to my question. You said that you were on the fence at the end of last season and Mark Pope was announced as the coach, which may have had you leaning a little bit one way until the show the following day when everything was positive and then the introduction and when Rupp was packed, people were down crazy and a little thing happened. They introduced Matt Jones to the crowd and he was warmly received. So tell me, Matt, had that not happened, do you think maybe we wouldn't have another five years. I just well, I mean it.

00:40:19
Speaker 3: Wasn't I mean, the applause was awesome and I'll remember that for the rest of my life, but that it wasn't that particular thing. So I've talked about this, but I appreciate the call. I get a call on Mark or Mark uh excuse me. John cal Perry does his interview with Mitch Barnhart on Tuesday. I think that airs Tuesday night. On Wednesday, I get a phone call that basically says, hey, let's be really careful, what's going on. Because they're trying to really force our hand. And you know, we don't have to go into the details of the phone call, but it was not positive. And that night I talked to one of my friends and I was like, I think I'm done. You know what, there's no I'm not gonna fight with this dude for another two years. I'm done. So next day I call my boss and I'm like, you know what, if they push it, don't worry about it. Just tell them it's fine. I'm and he was and she was like, just wait, wait, you're taking a vacation. Let's talk about it after the vacation. Don't make a rash decision. And I said, you know, that's probably the right way to look at it. And then three days later the whole thing changes and it and and all of a sudden, my viewpoint of it flipped. And then once I was on vacation, I was like, yeah, I'd like to do it again.

00:41:36
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we all had private conversation with you you.

00:41:40
Speaker 3: I mean, people may or may not, but but like again, it's over, and I don't want it to be like Mario's not here to tape it, so it's not a big deal, but like it, Folks don't realize and it wasn't just me. Folks don't realize what that last year or two was like the idea that the Internet sometimes acted like like everybody just created this out of nowhere. How many people left their jobs in the last two years to get out of that basketball office. We had a life on Kentucky fan decided to go to North Carolina. We had one guy get out of the business completely to go like work at a blood center. Like it was bad. Okay, so it worked out really well. I think for everybody, we're gonna take a break and be right back. This is our number two. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.