I'm Back In Action...Am I Ready?

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Welcome back to Katching Up With Katie. You know, we're kind of lucky we're even doing it this week. We had to skip last week because my voice was just completely gone. Like I cannot remember the
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last time I truly lost my voice. Not even just was like, "Oh, like could not talk for days." And so
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it's a little back. It's a little more um husky, I would say. But we're making it through. We have
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one more week until we head out to Ocala to a horse show. Like we're there for two days because
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Okay, I'm just gave you the lowdown. I'm not going to give you all the details because that will be it's going to be like a reveal. Yes. When we get there. So, there's a new horse that I'm showing
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this year. Uh he is going to stay in Texas. He's not coming home. Like this is purely because when
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I go to Texas to see Denver, like it's with the trainers that I'm already like working working
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with. And so this older gentleman, he's a he's a senior gelding. He's been there, done that,
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knows his job. It it was presented to me like as, "Hey, would you like I think this would be a good
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fit for you because, you know, you're going to be showing Denver hopefully soon, but he's a younger horse and he's just not as like, you know, solid in his job and you've got all these babies coming
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up. What if you dipped your toes back into the show pen with this older gentleman that's a little more like then they're done that and can teach you. Yeah. Which I think is always amazing. Like
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I grew up showing older horses which if you have a horse that has all these abilities and they can actually teach you. It's phenomenal. So I'm very excited. I had meant to go ride this horse. Like
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I was supposed to have already introduced y'all to this horse. Yeah. And foaling season just has been
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kicking my behind. And so we have had zero time to go. Um we did have like a little three-week spot,
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but then in that three-week spot they were out of town, like the trainers. And so it just didn't work out. So I get to ride this horse for the very first time when we get to Ocala. Okay. For
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two days. So I have two days to ride him and have lessons and all that good stuff. And then I show
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So we get there, first day, second day, third day I ride him and practice. Got it. And then I show
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um Ding ding ding. Yeah. And then we have like a a day in the middle of it that we're taking off because I'm not showing. And so then we're going to go to Universal. And then I have one more show
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day and then we leave. Cool, cool, cool. And I'm trying not to put any pressure on it cuz like if we get there and I suck, then we might just show if it works, you know, like it doesn't it doesn't
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have to be all this big pressure buildup and stuff. Um, and so we're going to go ride him and then Denver's showing. I'm hoping they let me ride Denver while he's there. He is like fresh off
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the breeding train. Yeah, I was gonna say wasn't he breeding? Which he's already gone and shown
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in one. Okay. Which is like so Denver, my young stallion, first things first. He had his first
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year of like breeding fresh. So last year he bred some mares just with frozen semen. So like we had collected him prior to breeding season and then because he was going to be showing we were like
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we don't want him having to focus on two different things. And so he never collected fresh. So when they collect fresh, they're like on a Monday, Wednesday, Friday schedule. They collect every
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Monday, Wednesday, Friday and that shipment gets sent out that day. Well, this year we collected
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fresh through mid-March and then we're like, "Oh, okay. He's going to have time by mid-April. He'll
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have a full month to kind of get back in the swing of things and he'll go show." And that was our
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plan. Well, there was a show right before um the Ocala one that my trainers were going to and they
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said, "Can we take Denver because we're just going straight from this show to Ocala, so he needs to go and we we'll just ride him around. Like, we're not planning on showing." Well, that was literally
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two weeks out from breeding. They get there, he's being so good that they were like, "Yeah,
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we're just going to show him." Nice. He's so good. And then he went and won the junior western riding
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under all the judges and has already qualified for the world show because he got so many points. So
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that's kind of cool. So he's he's already gotten back in the swing of things and looks fantastic. So we get to go watch Denver. I hopefully get to ride Denver. I'm so excited to meet him. He's
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very funny boy. And then Penelopey is going to be there. You've never met Penelopey. Okay. And she
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almost just spoiled something else. And I do that often. So, there's other things happening while we're in Ocala as well that y'all don't know about. And so, there's just so much. Yeah. So,
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Penelopey is going to be there for a ride along as well. So, if all things look great, I might hop on
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Penelopey, which is going to be really fun because So, if you've been following since 2023, then you
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remember Penelopey being born. And that was one of my very first YouTube videos. Yeah. Was her
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birth. Um, and was that the one that was like a like kind of strange coming like she was standing
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and she came out? Oh, yeah. Trudy always has her baby swinging. Okay. So, yeah, I had to catch her. That was wild. Literally had have had like carried this horse in arms. And so, it'd be kind of funny.
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I've carried you. You have to carry me now. Um, so Ocala is next. We have one more week of just like
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grinding and getting everything buttoned up before we head down there. So, with that being said,
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uh, it's been a honestly kind of traumatic couple of weeks in the foaling season realm of things. And the last Katching Up With Katie we filmed, I kind of just like trauma dumped about Maggie. So,
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we're going to try not to do that in this episode, but a lot of you had questions. And so,
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we took questions. I don't know what these are, by the way. Lindsey came up with these from the comment section. Um, we have a few questions that she has pulled straight from y'all and
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we're just going to kind of catch up with with answering the burning questions of viewers. So,
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Lindsey, why don't you want to kick us off? Um, by the way, did you notice that we're matching?
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This is the eggs benny eggs benedict merch. I love it. Okay, so this is referring to the
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uh now that she has Margo and the nurse mare. So, can you talk through the why of keeping Margo
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with Maggie instead of getting a nurse mare right away? Like why why what prohibited you from like
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getting one right away? Was it the decision? So, I mean, right away, Maggie seemed Okay,
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for backstory, if you didn't watch last episode, Maggie, my recent mare, who we love, had colic
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surgery at like 295 days pregnant and then she was recovering great and then at 322 days pregnant,
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she colicked again, had colon displacement once again, had to have surgery again, and then baby
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was born 20 hours later naturally. So, you know, she had she came through surgery. So, Well,
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and then she had such good milk, which was kind of like a miracle. Like, you know, that's something
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that her hormones should have been so imbalanced. Like, they were worried she wouldn't have milk. And she's a freaking dairy cow. Like, she has so much milk. And so she came through surgery so well
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and then she had this baby naturally so easily and then was feeding it well and seemed like she
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was just on the up and up that it it is truly best for baby if possible to stay with mama and if
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it's best for mom too like if if we can keep from stressing her out because she like wants this baby
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right. We had hoped that she would just stabilize and kind of just like coast until we could and
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you know the first couple days she came home we hand walked her and like if that was all we had
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to do like that's fine like we could absolutely do that for her. And so that was a realistic okay
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this could work. And then a few days into Maggie getting home we noticed how uncomfortable she
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was and then that day had the vet out and it would just so happened the farrier was coming
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out that day. It was just very good timing. Um, we noticed she had inflammation in her laminae, which is like, okay, laminitis is starting. And laminitis, this is where a lot of people were,
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I think, confused. So, laminitis oftentimes is brought on by, hey, this horse is overdoing it
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on this sugary diet. Like, it's you, it's a lot of the time diet-based. And so, everyone's like,
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pull that grain away from her. I'm like, no, that is not the case. She has been on half grain. She has been on she had like 10 minutes of grazing. This is not what caused this. What caused this
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is her incision became infected which was like it was going to happen. Yeah. It was inevitable with
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I mean especially with Margo running up under her and like bumping her head and I mean you can only
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keep a horse in a barn so clean. Yeah. And so she it was beginning to get infected and the infection
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plus all the stress. That's just what did it. And so we immediately took action and like had
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the farrier out and we put these like cloud cushy boots on her to relieve pressure off of her foot.
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We started icing her. We started now we we're lasering her for inflammation as well. We're
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uh have her on anti-inflammatories. We took x-rays just to make sure there was no rotation
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already. It can happen very very fast. So like inflammation of the laminae starts and then it
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turns into foundering which is the rotation of the coffin bone. And when it gets severe the coffin
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bone literally just like pushes through the bottom of the sole. Like it's so sad. And so it's one of
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those things where if you catch it fast maybe you can stop it. There's no guarantee though that you
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can stop it even by throwing the book at it. We're throwing the book at it and we're hoping. But with
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that being the next like add-on to Maggie's problems, we've decided it best to attempt to
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bring We already started. We're on day like four right now of like by the time y'all watch this,
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I don't even know what's going to have happened. Um, so we're on day four of medication right now for Gracie, one of my retired broodmares, who is like super unproblematic, great mom, and she's
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just been retired from having her own babies, but we're bringing her into milk hopefully. And so,
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we're going to attempt to put Margo on Maggie or on Gracie now just to give Maggie a chance.
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I mean, on top of like she's giving every bit of nutrition she can to this baby because she's
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just her she's like a milk cow. Like her udder is huge. Yeah. And and she's just like streaming
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milk out as Margo eats. Um and so we're going to hopefully give her the break of not having to feed
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the baby so she can gain weight. She lost so much weight. Like her topline looks like a dairy cow.
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Like she's just bone. And so we're going to try to get the baby off of her for that reason and
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for the reason of like she is like absolutely just like punching her in the gut constantly.
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Um and hopefully this will give Maggie the chance to to heal and recover. Now a lot of people I did
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see were like why wouldn't you just get a nurse mare from like Cold Springs Nurse Mare or like
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whatever like one of these places that has them ready to go. And I went through that scenario.
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And I'm not saying we won't turn to that if Gracie doesn't work. If we can make one of my mares work
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that why not has the ability and is healthy and knows my other mares and can go out in the pasture
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with them probably with like less drama, you know? Like, you know, these babies, we put so much time
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and effort into them and like we love them and they're also very expensive and like I I just
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did run some scenarios in my head of like, okay, I get this mare and I don't know what the you know,
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like do I have to quarantine this mare when I get her here and that puts us at two weeks
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and then like do we put her out with my other mares and babies? And what if she I don't know
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how she is with other mares in the pasture. What if she's super aggressive and then she kicks this
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other baby that's worth all this money and then I you know like I know how Gracie is. I know how
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she interacts with other babies. I know how she interacts with other mares. Like I trust her with
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Margo, you know. And so if we can make that work, we're going to try to. It's nothing I've done
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before. So it's going to be a learning experience. Um but that's why we didn't. Yeah. And you know,
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it might have been better if we had, but you live and you learn. We're we're here now, you know. So,
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okay. Question number two. Is there ever a chance that we'll see a mini foal or horse next to a big
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foal or horse? So, at one point the mini horses when I first got them were at the big farm. Okay.
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And so, we do have some old videos of Karen next to Gracie through the fence. And it's funny. It is
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funny. It's probably like a huge difference. Yes. Um which is funny because Gracie's like
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the smallest of the horses. Uh and so that that did happen, but right now I don't think a lot of
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people know the mini farm is a totally different property. Yeah. And so where the mini foals are,
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I mean, we'd have to trailer them over. I would never do it in the pasture together. It would have
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to be like through the fence. And it's just kind of like a whole big deal. And like I just live by
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if I don't have to stress my horse out, why would I, you know? And sure, would it be cute? Maybe. I
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think we could photoshop it and it'd be as cute, you know? So, um, probably not. Yeah, honestly.
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Cool. How is Daphne doing? And will the injury that she received recently kind of make her a
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potential broodmare in the future? Or is there potential for her to heal? And she
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should heal. So, Daphne, um, this was in one of the like vet updates we did with breeding. So,
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she came in and she really wasn't looking like that lame walking, but we had the chiropractor
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out that day. Again, there's so there's been so many coincidences with like who's coming out
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and like catching things early. So, she felt around on No, I always say it wrong. I call
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I keep calling it the chupacabra. It's the tuber coxae. Yes. Tuber coxae. I said it the first time.
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So, it's like the it's like the pointy bone on their hip and she felt it and she was like,
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"I think she broke it." And I was like, "Great, why not?" You know, let's break our hip. And so,
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she said a lot of the times when horses like maybe they bust through their stall or maybe on a fence
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post they're running and they they catch it on it and it like breaks it off. So, that's what she
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had suspected just from palpating it, like feeling it. And there was lots of inflammation and she was
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obviously uncomfortable with it. Well, we had the vet out, I think, the next day for her and x-rayed
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it and ultrasounded it and all the things. So, she didn't break the bone. She had the tiniest little
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bone chip that should cause no problems. Perfect. And then she did tear the ligament that it's like
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a big hip ligament that goes like right underneath it. And so, it was causing a lot of inflammation
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and that's what like it was squishy around it and that's what it was. So, that's better than
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the bone. Okay. So, that's better. It should be I think she's been on stall rest for a couple of
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weeks now. I think he said six weeks of stall rest and then hand walking and then back to
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normal building up from there. So, she should be okay. And she's in that it's kind of like humans
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like you know kids just heal faster. Like young young horses do heal better. Yeah. And so because
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she wasn't already in like big strenuous work and like she should she was just starting out
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working. She was just starting out. She should be okay. And it it truly was most like he said it
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was hyperextension. So what probably happened? We won't know for sure what probably happened. She's
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in this big old pasture with a bunch of mares uh and it had rained and so like if it's super duper
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wet sometimes we'll keep the horses in for this reason because we have super hilly rocky ground
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but we don't keep them in if it like if it's just it's a little muddy, you know. Well, she probably
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slipped and hyperextended it running down the hill or something. Yeah. And it's just like, what are
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you gonna do? Bubble wrap them. Yeah. It's like you can't keep an eye on them all day. I mean,
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that's I mean, that's why so many people justify keeping their horse in 24/7 because they're like,
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I can't afford for them to hurt themselves. I'm showing them or whatever. And like I've just
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always adopted the I don't know the motto. Not that there's no motto. I just believe that a horse
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should be able to go out. And so, you know, yes, she's a very expensive two-year-old and I have big
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big hopes for her, but I'm not going to Yeah, I'm not going to ruin her quality of life for that.
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Okay. Next question. What is your suspected foal count for next year? I'll pull up my list. Let me
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see. So, we have We'll see here in like an hour if Buttercup's pregnant. Yeah. Um that'll be a
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whole other video that y'all get to see. Um, so right now confirmed we have Opal who's due January
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29th. We have Ariel who's due February 11th and then Erlene due February 16th. So those are the
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ones that are confirmed. We're checking Buttercup today and she's due if she is pregnant February
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26th. So that's four. And then we've already put in embryos into Raven. Lexy is getting it
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today and then Kimberly's getting it Wednesday. So that's seven. Okay. And then oh eight. Just
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kidding. I forgot Ginger. Ginger's also been bred. We're checking her on Thursday. So she would be
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due March 2nd. Um, and so we have at the current time, if all these pregnancies stick, which most
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likely one at least one or two of them is probably not going to. Yeah. Um, January 29th through March
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8th is our current foaling season and we still have a few more to go. So that's seven. I'd really
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like to have my embryo put in Charlotte. Melody, we're going to try with Sophie. Here's the thing,
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Sophie. I'm like, if it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Um, and then Blondie and
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Lady. So, I would say like I'm I'm shooting for at least 10. Um, but I think on my list there's
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like 12 to 14. So, I would say if you shoot for 14, you usually get nine or 10. Yeah. So, that I
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I'd say I'd say 8 to 10 is like realistically where we'll land. Yeah. I agree. I agree.
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What makes a colt a stallion prospect versus a gelding? Um, just genetics or is there more
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to it? Definitely more to it. Um, so I think genetics gives you like genetics meaning like
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oh his daddy won all this and his mama won all this and this mama produced all these babies
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that went on to win. Like I think that gives you like predictability in a horse. I'm not saying
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that like a quote unquote nobody horse can't be a stallion prospect because of excellence,
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but I think going off of, oh, that horse is bred so nice. It gives you like predictability
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because you can see how they've done in the past, like those horses, right? It doesn't
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always work that way, but that's generally why I think people are so focused on, oh, on paper,
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what does that horse look like? So, there's that. Um, for me, I tend if I keep a boy, it's usually
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for a stallion prospect and it's I let them grow up to see how they look conformationally.
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And that's down to like their feet, how they are built, how they last soundness-wise, you know,
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on on the x-rays, how are they looking like internally? Because that's all things that
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you're passing on. And so structural, mental, So, like if they're a whackadoodle as a yearling and
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a two-year-old and can't handle it, yeah, they're not a stallion prospect. Yeah. Some people don't
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care. Whatever. To me, I care. I want like the best minded possible stallions um to pair with my
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mares. And then, um you know, you then obviously want them to go prove themselves. Sometimes some
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of the best stallions out there didn't really prove themselves because they were injured or
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whatever reason. And so then they were proven through their progeny. There is something to
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be said about that. Sometimes that happens. So there's so many factors that go into it. I would
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say there's too many great stallions out there to make another mid one, you know? And so that's why
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I'm pretty like like I I break the scissors out. Not really. But yeah, I've gelded everything so
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far. Except like Wall-E's the one that has gone the farthest. Yeah. and he's two and, you know,
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still has his his um manhood, his friends. So, I'm pretty I'm pretty stingy with it. And I just
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if they're not anything but like wow and like oh my gosh in whatever field they're doing obviously
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like like Wall-E looks very different than like my little western horses, right? Like they have their
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different strengths, but for whatever we're planning for them, if they're not just like,
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"Oh my gosh, wow. I see zero reason to keep their testicles, you know. Yeah. Makes sense to me.
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All right, we've got two questions left. The next one is about Gretchen and her show. Yeah,
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Gretchen. So, she uh I have a little video clip we could put up. That's so cute. She looked
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fantastic. I honestly was shocked because we sent her in I think December and so it's only been
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a few months and she showed in the halter. Okay, we're starting her off in the halter and then this summer she's starting her in like the driving. So, she's going to hopefully be pulling a cart and I
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think that's where she's going to really shine. But the halter gets her to the shows. It gets her,
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you know, just used to everything, being around other horses, being in in a training atmosphere. And so, she showed her in the mare's class, which she had told me, and I'm learning about the mini
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horses, so I don't you don't I don't know all this stuff. So, she showed me where or she told me that
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uh there were the two that beat her because she got third. Um and it looked like there
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was quite a few horses in the class. She she was third and the two that beat her were previous,
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you know, big-time champion mares and they were in a different height class than her. Usually,
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at this certain show, they had combined it into one mare's class. So, generally at at like many
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shows, it's like based on their height. Yeah. in inches and so they were all just put together and
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Gretchen in her like if you had sectioned them out she would have won her height class but
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third's great first time showing she looked fantastic and so Emily Condor is my trainer
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uh Jack will be going to some shows later on and we're going to go see them while we're in
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I'm so excited Florida so that'll be fun um we're going to see Jack and Gretchen
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My little man. My little man. We're going to go see them and maybe get a tour of like her,
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you know, farm and like her training stuff and it's going to be really cool. That's exciting.
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Yeah. All right. My last question. If you were starting over your breeding program from scratch,
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which five of your current broodmares would you begin with and why? And you can ignore
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age if you want. Okay. I'm gonna if I have if I can ignore age and pretend they're in
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their prime. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, Kennedy for sure. I Yeah, I was just Okay,
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so Kennedy VS The First Lady obviously she's my most proven show horse mare. Uh, four-time NSBA
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world champion, Congress champion, reserve world champion, just like Yeah. Amazing. So,
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she would absolutely be number one. Uh, and obviously we just love what she's producing.
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I mean, she's the mother of my young stallion Denver. She has Cheyenne. Uh, yeah. Cheyenne,
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Margo, Kirby, and then she just had a filly uh by VS Flatline that I think just won 16 grand
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like two days ago in a in a class. Yeah. Slay. Like her her babies are doing good.
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That's her second oldest after Denver. Okay, cool. So Kennedy Trudy Cattails Are Blazing
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for sure. So she herself is an NSBA world champion. She's a producer, Congress champion,
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reserve AQHA world champion, NSBA world, you know, all the things. So, she is Daphne's mom,
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Penelopey's mom. She Penelopey is going to be her next baby in the show pen. And so,
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she only has one that's shown, but even then, she's producing phenomenally. So, they're both like there's my like western champion and hunter under saddle champions. It's like I've got those
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two, but they're bred pretty similarly. And so I would absolutely still bring in Indy, which is my
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Hanoverian thoroughbred mare that I paid I can't remember if it was it was somewhere between $800
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and $1,000 like I think it was Yeah. I love her and I love her diversity into my gene pool and
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she's grown on me for sure. I would love to have her back in her prime because she's a senior mare
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at this point so we don't have that. You know, who knows how many more babies we'll have. uh you know if I decide to do ICSI with her or whatever but I would love to have her in her prime. So Indy
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I need to think for a second. I need to think for a second.
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I already have a VS Code Red daughter. I already have a Hot N Blazing daughter. I
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have a thoroughbred. So, I'm gonna go ahead and kick out Ginger and Annie because they are both half they they're both Hot N Blazing and VS Code Red. So, I don't need more if I'm only going
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with five. Yep. So, that kick I'm gonna kick out I'm gonna kick out Happy. Okay. Because I Yeah,
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I'm going to kick out Happy. Um, you've got Sophie, Buttercup, Erlene, this is hard. So,
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I have two hunt seat mares. I need another western one. That's a tough question. So, I would I would
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say Rikki. Okay. Except for the fact that Rikki only has one baby on the ground. Yeah. That we
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can see and she's a on her hip. Buttercup I know is a producer. Like her babies have gone and like
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won and like shown and whatnot even though we haven't had a baby. Yeah. So, she's an outcross, has old foundation bloodline. Her babies have produced and she's a buckskin so she's got color
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genetics proven progeny all the things and she's an outcross. Buttercup okay period. Buttercup and
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then Kennedy Buttercup Indy Indy Trudy final one what what would you do any of the newer
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mares Ariel and okay because she's Allocate Your Assets and an Iron Enterprise mare she's a total outcross for both of my studs and can be bred for both like all-arounders and hunt seat mares.
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Okay. Yeah. Erlene, which is Red Carpet Debut and she's a phenomenal ex show horse and she's only
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had one baby, but I think due to her So there and another reason why I didn't choose Beyonce
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is because she's a half sister to my stud and so I could only breed her to one of my studs. Yeah. You wouldn't be able to breed her that much. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's that's hard. Yeah, that was a
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good question. That's my That's my That's my five though. Sweet. That's all the questions I have. I
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can look up some more if you want. I think we're good. I think um honestly we're going to have so much to talk about over the next couple weeks with the trips and end of foaling season. Uh I guess I
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will touch on the fact that Annie at this point in time still has not had her baby. Maybe by the time that we've posted this, she will have had it. And I'm really hoping she has it before we
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leave just so that I have a piece of mind. But due to the fact that when I bred her, I did not know I was going to have a horse to show. And I really honestly thought she was going to have it by now.
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And so when I said yes to doing this horse show and like paid all the money for these horses to go and they're already there, like they're waiting on me right now. Um she's going to have to go to
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the clinic if she hasn't had it. And honestly, with the way that foaling season's been going, maybe that's for the best. Maybe that's for the best. So we'll still get to see it. and they've,
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you know, honestly my vets are they know me well and they're really good about getting on video for me and stuff like they did with Maggie. So, um I think I think it'll be good regardless,
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but Annie's our last one due. Um and then we have only a couple mini horses and kidding season and all the things. So, we're about to have lots of fun in the sun. And yeah, I just hope we we end
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on a high note for foaling season. But thank y'all for your questions. I hope that kind of brought you up to speed and we will see y'all in the next one. Matt, next time don't talk so much. How about
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that? You were just rude and interrupting and I'm cutting immediately before you say all that. No, before then it was just a Katching Up With Katie quick Q&A with you and Lindsey and now
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here I am. Now I'm entered the chat. All right, hope y'all enjoyed. See you in the next one.