Shannon Elizabeth Meets World

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Speaker 1: So ryder and I found out something really cool that we are going to the live Survivor finale the season not the neatest thing, like we're going to get to the air. I'm so excited. Yeah, really psyched. But it led me to a question. So, this is Survivor as we talk about it, I know you you follow every episode, Danielle.

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Speaker 2: Youl never missed one.

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Speaker 1: It's I know, so I know you're very excited. But this is the big season of Survivor. It's this season fifty and they pulled out all the stops and it's like, there's the big, big moment in television we're going to be there for. So it led me to and again, Danielle, you'll be hot and cold on this because we know how you feel about things that are artsy and stuff. That's fine. But if you could put yourself on any set in any time film or TV history, where would you want to be to watch whatever? You'd want to be there to witness live?

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Speaker 2: That's really cool.

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Speaker 1: God, that's a good question. The television history only, no, no live theater, live, TV live, whatever. And so do you want me to give you a start? I wanted to do it so you guys can think for a second. Yeah, we've had a similar question before we.

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Speaker 2: Talked about it was just time traveling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I said, go back and watch you know, an original Shakespeare.

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Speaker 1: Make it, make it from the TV and film uh uh era on because so like for me, it would be cool to be on the set of uh Star Wars the Empire strikes back when they're filming the no Luke I'm your father scene like something like that where it's like whoa, Like I can't believe I'm That's a pretty good one. That's a very good one. So like where would you y'all want to be to watch something like that? Wow?

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't have like a moment that happened in a movie like that. For you will that's like ooh that moment. That would be great. I can see why someone would pick something like that, But like for me, I'd probably want to go back to I mean, my first instinct was to say, I love Lucy Cool. I would want to watch Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance and see what their dynamic is and see mostly what it was like to be a woman who had power on a set at that time, and to just see what that process was like, you know, that's one what was what? How did what happened when somebody had something down that they didn't want to do where they didn't like or someone gave them a note like what were those dynamics? I would just kind of want to go back to that time or like the Mary Tyler Moore show. I'd keep thinking of times where it was like wow, women as the stars in forefront of their own their own shows. Right, Yes, so I would. I would want it.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one.

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Speaker 2: And I've always thought Lucille Ball was amazing.

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Speaker 1: You know, she's responsible for Star Trek. Really, but Desilu their their production company, was the only production company willing to do Star Trek. They put Star Trek on the air, so low seal Balls is responsible for Star Trek. Not amazing. She did so much in Hollywood, so much in Hollywood, incredible. I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it would just be a movie.

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Speaker 3: It'd be like a a big movie that I would love to be around, probably a Spielberg film.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, what about, like do you want to go to the set of Stand By Me? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean that would But I don't know if it would be us, like I would, I don't know. I feel like I would want to solve a mystery, like I would want to be around for like something that's debated. I'm trying to think what's been debated in film history, like who came up with what line? Or you know, and I can't think of like one great thing. But yeah, I guess if it's just about like experiencing something, it'd be really fun to I mean, you know, Citizen Kane would be amazing like some of these like legendary stories like in Citizen kan when like Orson Wells drilled into the floor to get a shot, you know, like somebody you know, it would be pretty amazing. But no, I'm thinking actually would probably be actor based. It would be a performance. It would probably be like Marlon Brando, like get to see him.

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Speaker 1: Do like on the waterfront.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just something that like changed the world forever and like see how that came about, you know, like see how it's a great scene came and multiple takes, Like it would be cool to see alternate takes like at a time when people were actually doing different takes and like taking chances.

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Speaker 1: That's that's all I.

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Speaker 3: Can really think of is and then that's not even a specific answer.

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Speaker 1: So it's funny though, because you forget as actors is such a beautiful movie magic, And one of the things it does is it makes you forget how boring making a.

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Speaker 2: Movie actually, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: I So it's like part of me is like I would love to go to the set of Jaws and be on the boat with them, and like, do I want to be in a boat for eleven hours as they're trying to get one to try and get.

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Speaker 2: As you couldn't pay me enough money to go.

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Speaker 1: Visit a movie, you know what?

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Speaker 3: That's actually that's a really good point.

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Speaker 1: I think probably it would be a tape night.

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Speaker 3: Then a tape was more fun, like the last episode something like that, or like the first episode of Cheers, you know, with a live studio audience. First episode of Cheers, I bet you they were having so much fun or something where you know that they were improving a bunch, like a movie where they did like you know, Bridesmaids, where they were doing like you know, take after take and just making each other laugh. Like my Instagram feed is all like bloopers, so many bloopers.

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Speaker 1: It's like just behind the scene and I.

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Speaker 3: Laugh every time because not exactly the joke, it's that they make each other laugh.

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Speaker 1: Is like mostly what I'm watching. Yeah right, I got one for you, Danielle. I got one for you that I think you would like. Any episode but either the first or last episode of the David Letterman Show. Oh yeah, like go watch the original Old School.

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Speaker 2: That would have been great. That that definitely would be a taping I would want to go to. And you know what, that's funny you say that, because while we were talking about going to a taping, I thought the thing that's frustrating for me about attending live tapings. If I'm just in the audience, there is such a feeling of fomo to me as an actor, as an actor and now as a director, to see everyone and what they're doing in between, and I'd be like, I don't want to be sitting in this audience. I want to be on that crew. I want to be a part of that team. But at a talk show that I've never heard like that I've never hosted, I don't have that same feeling. So that would be a perfect taping because then I just get to really watch and take it all in I would definitely want.

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Speaker 1: To see if you if we're going we're throwing all science and logic out the window, the three of us being able to go back as other people and sit in the audience for make it your first episode, Danielle. So episode four of Oh My God would have been imagined really incredible to watch it from that vantage point, see how nervous because we're all still in the nervous stage and oh my God, I'm still freaking out, running out.

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Speaker 5: And I mean if you could go and actually spend the whole night backstage, It's like I imagine like if you had like a little drone camera that could go around and just follow like reliving a night of Boy Betoy would be insane, and like following crew members backstage and hearing the conversations and what people were that would be a I mean, that's basically what this podcast is attempting to do, right right, but yeah, trying to bring us back to those memories.

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Speaker 2: You know, I didn't think it was really interesting too that I, you know, have been interviewing all the American Idol finalists for the American Idol Official podcast, and every every time I get to talk to them, I ask them about the friendships that they've made, because they all have paired up at least paired up if not, you know, in groups of three or four, and they have their best friends, and they talk about what a support they've been, and so I always ask them about those friendships, and then like, of their performances or things on the show, what's been the standout moment for them? And almost all of them have said, oh, huh, you know, I don't know, because all my favorite moments are not those, They're all the moments. And I'm like, oh, it never changes. I said, you know, you don't know who even who I am. But I also have this experience of doing something insane and incredible and being a part of something that when other people watch it or like, imagine doing that. And yet for us, the best moments are standing around at craft service or in the schoolroom and you don't even remember necessarily the big, flashy moments of it. So it never changes. It's like, it's also such a good reminder that like life and memories are happening in the very small moments, they're not. They're not just the big moments. You know, you don't need to you don't need to wait for a vacation or wait for a day to make a memory. They're happening. They're happening literally all the time, and you don't can just control them.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, no, it's so true. I think if if my we're gon, we're going to start a new trend and it's going to be quote unquote sponsored by So my first year of Boy Meets World, my memories would be sponsored by Otter, Pops, Wolfenstein and gristein.

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Speaker 3: Great we'll replaying Wolfstein, A whole bunch, who whole Bunch?

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Speaker 1: So that was that would be my season one is sponsored by those three things.

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Speaker 3: Number two would have been Magic the Gathering.

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Speaker 2: Right by season three were into Marlborough life in Amsterdam.

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Speaker 1: It's a real magic the gather.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to pod Meeats World. I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm Right or.

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Speaker 1: Strong, and I'm Wilfordell.

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Speaker 2: The landscape of Hollywood is constantly changing. What just a few years ago was a flourishing industry with hundreds of TV pilots filming and an ability to make a movie based on something other than established I p has become a deserted wasteland focused on corporate mergers, exaggerated cost cutting and a creative forecast that holds little to no hope for the future. Have a great day, everyone, Yes, thanks, But if there's any silver lining to the dystopian reality for anycast, it's that some of us have had to pivot. Whether it's social media, podcasting, live streaming, or an altogether unrelated side hustle, a lot of us have had to look above and beyond the traditional avenues of our industry to diversify, and this week's guest has been the face for this development over the past few weeks, and it seems to have really paid off. Raised in Waco, Texas, she spent most of her childhood focused on tennis with aspirations to go pro, but started modeling, working with premier agencies Ford and Elite Models, which led to a breakout in film playing of all things, A foreign exchange student, Nadia, the confident and beautiful Eastern European love interest of Jim Levenstein in the nineteen ninety nine smash R rated comedy American Pie, thrust her into fame and onto covers of magazines with names like Maxim, FHM, and Loaded, while becoming one of the internet's first downloadable crushes. She'd go on to appear in all of the American Pie sequels, as well as Scary Movie That's seventy, Show and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Also, she somehow became a professional poker player, going as far as the main event in two thousand and five's World Series of Poker, cementing herself as one of the leading celebrity players of all time. And she's kind too. She's dedicated endless hours of her time to help with animal charities like her own Shannon Elizabeth Foundation, and she helps raise awareness about rhino poaching and saving turkeys during Thanksgiving. But now she's another prime example of a celebrity who's found a new revenue stream in this ever evolving business, and we're definitely going to talk to her about that too. Please welcome to Podmeets World. Are Queen of Hearts, Shannon Elizabeth Hella, how are.

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Speaker 1: You iry you?

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Speaker 4: But I have to see you for a second with my glasses.

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Speaker 2: I love that your glasses are so cute. Why would you take them off?

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Speaker 4: Then you see the reflections and everything cute?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 1: Now we're blur. Now we're just blurry.

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Speaker 4: Probably I'm convinced that as we get older, we lose our eyesight, so our partner continues to look good to us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I like that. It's just a nice little bluffing, you know, just a little bluffing.

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Speaker 1: I want to see how well my podcast partners know me. What's the first question I'm going to ask?

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Speaker 2: Where is she?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Where are you where? It's almost dark?

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Speaker 6: South Africa?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Wow?

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Speaker 4: Did you not know I was coming to you from South Africa today?

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Speaker 2: I did not know that. That is incredible.

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Speaker 4: I had to race home from an appointment in town because I live about an hour away from like the main city, and it's rush hour, so it's six point twenty here right now.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't know you lived there full time?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 6: Pretty much?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I go back and forth a lot. I'm still in the US three or four times a year, but I'm mainly here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a quick trip. So that's an easy quick trip. So that's nothing super I.

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Speaker 4: Mean you No, I don't mind it. I don't mind it.

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Speaker 6: My most peaceful moments are on the airplane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I understand that for sure. Well, thank you so much for hanging out with us today. Much like Taylor Swift. You have had many eras in your career, and we are excited to jump into all of them.

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Speaker 6: Well, I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: I love that you compared me to Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what we do here? I wanted to start a bit with your Waco, Texas origin story. I know you were an avid tennis player. You were like a super jock for sure. So how and when do you go from jock to modeling?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 4: So, so I kind of fell into playing tennis in school. A friend of mine had said, come trial for the tennis team with me, and she had been like practicing and like growing up with it and doing this her whole life. And I never picked up a racket. I didn't know what I was doing. And this was I think my freshman year of high school. And so I went and tried out and beat her and got in and I don't think she got a spot, and I went straight to varsity and.

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Speaker 2: It was just my gosh, having never picked up a racket, you went from a freshman on varsity.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like discovering you have a superpower.

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Speaker 4: I had relative like cousins that apparently played and so maybe it's just one of those things.

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Speaker 6: That was in my jeans.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. So I was my whole high school career.

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Speaker 4: I was between It was me and another girl back and forth for first and second on varsity and I playing and it was amazing. And it was my senior year. My dad knew that I wanted to act, and he was reading the paper one morning and he said, Oh, they're casting for a music video downtown and they're they're looking for extras. If you want to go audition, I'm like, yeah, of course I do. So I went down and auditioned, and I got what they called a featured extra, but it's anything but featured.

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Speaker 6: It was like a flash, you know. But it was my first chance to be on a real set.

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Speaker 4: And so the whole time I was just hanging out with everyone, like understanding why a shot was a certain way, and I was following the director and I was following the producer and watching every everything I wasn't in. Well, it turns out that the director was Antoine Fouqui. This was before he had done training day or anything, and so this was in the beginning of his career, and the producer was with Propaganda films out of New York, and he and I just like got to talking and we were chatting about things, and he was like, you should model, and I'm like, I don't really want to model, but I want to act. And at the time, actors did commercials and models did commercials, so I thought, well, maybe it's a way that I could get in there and maybe get my side card. And he said, why don't I come to your house and talk to your parents? And my parents were super skeptical and like, why is this guy coming over?

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Speaker 6: What does he want? What's going to happen?

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Speaker 4: And I brought him to the house and he just talked to him and said, look, if you want to come out to New York during your senior year, senior break, Christmas break, come out to New York. I'll set you up with some photographers and some agencies and just see what happens. So I took him back to his hotel. I came back home and my parents were really impressed because he wasn't asking for money, he was just.

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Speaker 6: Offering to help.

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Speaker 4: And they said, if you want to do this, then we'll support you and we'll go out there and we'll see what happens. So we went out to New York around Christmas, I did some photos and I got signed with an agency. So nine days after I graduated, instead of going the route of like college and sports, I decided to take the leap and do that and see where it led. And my parents just made it really clear like if when the money, you can use your college money for this, but when it runs out, it runs.

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Speaker 6: Out and you have to come home, right.

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Speaker 4: And I don't even remember like how I got money from them or asking for money or what. I don't even know if it ran out, Like, I don't know. I forgot to ask about it later. It just kind of all happened. But when I was given the opportunity to either go to Europe and build my book or go to Asia and do catalog work and build up my money, I chose that because I knew that I wasn't going to go back home no matter what.

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Speaker 2: I'm not moving back in with no money.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, it was just not an option.

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Speaker 4: And I was more of a catalog girl anyway, So that worked out perfect for me to just go try and build up my money, and eventually it did lead me to I, if you want me to just jump ahead, I'll tell you the story.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, how did you go a bat from Asia to getting an agent and starting to act?

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Speaker 4: So I traveled modeling for many years, so I probably I think I graduated at seventeen, and I modeled probably till I was twenty. So I was on and off in Japan for a year. I was in Taiwan, I did Australia. I just traveled around and eventually I came back and did Texas. I did Dallas, so I told I had made some friends in New York and they lived in LA. So I told my agency in Dallas, I'm going to drive to LA. And then I was a drive cross country, hitting all the major modeling markets and building up my money because I didn't think I could start working in LA. It just seemed like way too big. And you know the perception of LA. When you come from a small town in Waco. You're like, no, you're gonna die if you're in LA right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna follow you up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: So they said, look, if you're going to LA, they have all the best photographers, go see some agencies. We'll set you up. And so I went and I ended up signing with Ford and they got me with some photographers, and while I was doing photos, they sent me on a few auditions and some were commercials, and I got a commercial audition, I booked a commercial, and so then I postponed my trip of leaving. And then suddenly I booked a second commercial and that got me my sadcard, so they had to tap partly me and so it was it was exactly what I thought it was going to be, Like I guess I just manifested that that was my crossover to getting my sad card was the modeling modelings. Yeah, so I wanted to. I wanted to get my feet on the ground for like a solid year in LA and not do anything else but just focus on that. And then after a year, I started taking acting classes and I sent out my head shot. I got with an agency and they would send me on auditions, and I took every acting class I could find, Like I just did everyone around town and took.

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Speaker 6: A little bit from each one that that worked.

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Speaker 4: For me, and eventually I got well Before even American Pie came along, I did a show called Rless. Yeah, yeah, so what what nobody really knows because I think the show is lost in the Ethos. It was before the internet, but I played a Russian tennis player. They it was one of those things like I booked my best jobs when they have no other options, and it was one of those things where they're like, they need somebody that can start tomorrow, and they need somebody who can wear a bathing suit, who can play tennis, who can very Russian accent at you.

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Speaker 6: Know, and I'm like, okay.

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Speaker 4: So somehow I got really brave with this one and decided I was going to go in speaking with the accent as if it was my real accent, so they didn't.

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Speaker 6: Know that I was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So you know, I was like, oh, you know, my parents they speak like this at home. I've been here a long time, but you know, and so they never questioned the accent. They just said, oh, well, actually's got the accent, okay. And then I talked about tennis because I was I was going for my state ranking. So they're like, oh, great, she could play tennis and she can wear bathing suit.

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Speaker 6: And I just booked the job.

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Speaker 4: And it was probably halfway through wardrobe I'm like, I'm really tired.

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Speaker 6: Of speaking like this.

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Speaker 4: Can I just use my normal accent now? I was so afraid of, like getting fired was It was amazing because there was a lot of like ur List was known for having cameos, but tons and tons of cameos of you know, famous musicians and actors and everything. And I mean, I think the one that used Oh, John McEnroe was in it, so I had to play with him.

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Speaker 2: That's fun.

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Speaker 4: Weasel Zappa, I think was my eventual boyfriend in it.

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Speaker 6: I think after our h Robert.

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Speaker 4: Wool was the first boyfriend. I think John Sally was in it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. It was for me. It was like one of my first big jobs. It was amazing, and.

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Speaker 4: So then I just used that as my acting reel because I didn't have enough other stuff. So whenever I needed to show somebody a reel, I was like, well.

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Speaker 6: Here's the episode. Just here's the whole episode.

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Speaker 2: Were you living at the oak Wood during this time? Like where are you living? Originally you thought you were just going to come to La for a little bit. You've postponed your trip. Where where do you start living?

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Speaker 4: I started in Marina del Rey, Okay. And I honestly I think I did that because I was from Texas and I was a huge country music fan, and there was a song called Marina del Rey.

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Speaker 2: Because anybody would tell you, if you're moving to LA for auditions, don't move to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I didn't know that at the time, and I was there for like a good year before doing the audition thing. But you know, I remember the because the highway system is a big circle all around. I was constantly in my car with a pager and I would have to get off the highway when it would go off to get my auditions for the next day.

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Speaker 6: Find a pay phone. You know, had the Thomas Guide.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, so funny the whole So when do you get the audition for American Pie and what do you remember about it?

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Speaker 4: I was in an acting class. His name, the coach was named Doug war Hit and we had done a scene in class that was pulp fiction and I had tried to play the French girl in pulp fiction. And so Joe Rightman, who's my now manager and ex, was in class with me and was he coaches and he was helping me and I had this audition come up and he goes, remember in class when you tried to do the French accent, and I'm like, yeah, he goes it sounded Russian do that, and so he didn't, you know, he hadn't seen. He wasn't around yet when I did the other job. But this was a much bigger audition, so I was like really nervous about it. And it's just one of those you know, I think everybody has an accent that they just go to when they think of a foreign accent, and it's just the one that rolls off their tongue, and it just happens that that's the one that I do better than anything else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: I mean that in southern you know, like that was kind of it. So it just I just got lucky and right place, right time. And I mean the casting director was like, Okay, I'm gonna call you back, but work on the accent. He didn't really love it. Yeah, but eventually we got by.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're from Texas, You're now playing a sexy foreign exchange student, and you've got this big webcam scene.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The reason it's called American Pie is crazy. Do you have any expectations after filming it? Did you think like this is my big break?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: I In fact, I told I told all my friends, Oh, it's not going to be great.

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Speaker 6: I'm so bummed. I don't think it's going to be like anything.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was, you know, like they want to change the accent and this and that. I was convinced it was going to not be good and.

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Speaker 6: Not do anything like for me at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, I mean, I've this is why I'm not a studio exact.

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Speaker 1: Because I hadn't.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought total opposite, and thank goodness, I was wrong.

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Speaker 2: Had you ever done a nude scene before this? And were you incredibly nervous?

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Speaker 4: I had done like photos like I had done some, but I mean the photos I did were actually with a friend of mine and it was just for my book or me on the beach and covering myself, and and we did somewhere I wasn't and then he went and sold them and I had to eventually sue him and get and I was under age when we.

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Speaker 6: Did the photos.

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Speaker 4: Soto a French magazine, but we won the suit and he had I think the magazine had to pay.

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Speaker 2: But oh yeah, gosh, enemies when you've got like that, Thank god.

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Speaker 4: I think because I had done so much modeling, and in modeling you have to get so comfortable changing in the middle of the beach or changing wherever, change in the car. You just have to do it quickly and keep going. And I think and I'd done a lot of underwear modeling, and I think all of that kind of just helped to prepare me that At the time, I was just like, all right, well, it's a job, and it was my first big job, big studio.

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Speaker 6: Film, and it is what it is.

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Speaker 4: Like I just felt like, well, I mean, this is what actors do, right, Like it's part of your craft. So I just had to look at it that way. I didn't feel like I was in a position to be saying no to jobs, right.

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Speaker 2: You know, what do you remember about your interactions with Jason Biggs on that day?

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Speaker 4: We were super nervous. Everybody was nervous. It was a closed set and Joe, my boyfriend at the time, actually came with me and he knew that he was nervous, so he like played into it. He was sitting behind the monitors watching and I don't remember like just like after we did like one take, he yelled something out to him as if he was angry and right joking, just ignore him, he's.

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Speaker 6: Joking, But he was trying to like just lighten the mood.

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Speaker 4: The mood, but I mean we were all nervous, and because it was closed, it was me, Jason and a sound guy right above me.

00:29:44
Speaker 6: Watching everything right there.

00:29:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was it was totally fine and we got through it, and yeah, it was.

00:29:52
Speaker 6: It was good.

00:29:53
Speaker 2: I noticed during researching your career that you didn't do any nude scenes after American Pie, and you have said the posing for Playboy around that time was one of your biggest regrets. So I wonder if you talked a little bit about that evolution for you. Do you not remember that or I.

00:30:10
Speaker 4: Don't remember saying that, but there's a lot of things quoted that.

00:30:14
Speaker 2: It's just not.

00:30:16
Speaker 4: I didn't regret that we we actually did that because it went along with the character. It actually was like, well, this is what the character would do. This is like it works with the character. So that's why it was a decision that we made at the time.

00:30:33
Speaker 6: I don't regret it.

00:30:37
Speaker 4: And what's what's funny is there actually was a scene in another film that I did and I was topless, so it wasn't actually my first time doing it, Okay, so it was it was the second time I did it because I had already done this other film. I'm not going to name it because everyone's going to go look for.

00:31:01
Speaker 6: It, but.

00:31:04
Speaker 4: It was with some really big actors, Like I was really also really excited to get that role. It wasn't a studio film, but it was with a lot of named actors that I looked up to. So, yeah, it is what it is. I mean, I didn't do it again because I didn't feel like at that point I needed.

00:31:23
Speaker 6: To do it again. And it never.

00:31:26
Speaker 4: Warranted itself, you know, there was no reason to do another type of role that was similar to her. Yeah, but something had come along, like you know, you remember NYPD Blue and now, like there was quite a lot of nudity and that for a TV show, and it was it was like if it was something like that at the time, where it's like, okay, it's a different genre, it's a different type of thing, and it's not like exploitating.

00:31:57
Speaker 2: What you've already done.

00:31:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So wait, so you you won't say the name of the movie, which I totally respect. What was the video? What was the anti Antoine Fuqua video that you're in?

00:32:08
Speaker 6: Oh?

00:32:08
Speaker 4: So the band was called High Five. It's actually online, it's on YouTube. I think high five and just can't handle it is the name.

00:32:19
Speaker 6: Of the video, but you can watch it.

00:32:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you watch it, I can tell you I'm in my actual cheerleading uniform from high school, which I still have because they shot it at a school. So I'm standing on the top of the steps at the school and we're all like, oh, look at the guys, you know, like the guys that are dancing, like look, look, and that was it, Like you see it for us split second.

00:32:46
Speaker 1: Was it?

00:32:47
Speaker 4: But I mean it's as much as that was it. I still look at that for me as such a pivotal moment. It really changed everything for me. Yeah.

00:32:57
Speaker 6: If that hadn't.

00:32:58
Speaker 4: Happened, I don't know what where my career would have gone.

00:33:02
Speaker 2: Well, when you look back at the time of American Pie, those red carpet events or MTV movie awards, I want to hear what you think was the best two thousand's clothing trend and what you think was the worst? Was it the colored sunglass lenses, be dazzled bandanas, trucker hats, juicy pants, Like, what do you think is the best and.

00:33:22
Speaker 4: The worst back then?

00:33:24
Speaker 6: In general?

00:33:25
Speaker 4: Uh?

00:33:25
Speaker 1: Huh?

00:33:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, from that like y two K wardrobe thing we all participated in.

00:33:31
Speaker 4: I don't know if I remember enough about it. To be honest, I was never great with fashion. I always had to have a wardrobe style as helping me. And I mean, I know you're naming the MTV Movie Awards because I had quite a weird fashion thing then. And honestly, we had no idea when I left the house that it was as see through as it was when the lights hit it, because at home it wasn't see through, and then the lights hit it and it was like, oh wow, didn't plan on that. Yeah, but here we are.

00:34:04
Speaker 1: Yep.

00:34:04
Speaker 2: I also have some of that, just like a black a black shirt I was wearing that I wasn't wearing a bra with. Had absolutely no idea that when hit with a bunch of flashes, was going to become completely see through.

00:34:15
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

00:34:16
Speaker 2: And all of those photos are.

00:34:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, they all be there forever. It is what it is.

00:34:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you gonna do?

00:34:23
Speaker 4: Nothing? We do.

00:34:24
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:34:26
Speaker 2: So you have then appeared in all the American Pie movies, and we have had Mina Suvari and Jason Biggs on the podcast and every time I have asked about the American Funeral sequel that is both a possibility or a total Facebook clickbait post. We are we do not know either way. Would you be interested in going back to playing Nadia almost thirty years later?

00:34:51
Speaker 4: I would absolutely go back. In fact, I think they need to do a film all about Nadia back in her own country there you Go, and following her back there and learning about her life there.

00:35:06
Speaker 6: And yeah, I got some ideas for it.

00:35:09
Speaker 1: I think that you should actually be really funny.

00:35:14
Speaker 4: I mean now, with Ai, I could probably write it by the end of the night and there you go.

00:35:20
Speaker 1: It could be like a funny, sexier borat, which would would be like super funny to do you know? That could be great, like depending on what town you're from everything, Yeah, that could be very funny.

00:35:31
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I've started out as one of the students, but now I can be one of the adults, right, yes.

00:35:51
Speaker 2: All right, it's time to enter your gambling era. I want to talk poker. Did you start playing so, I don't know if.

00:36:01
Speaker 6: You remember, Bravo did Celebrity Poker Showdown. Yeah, and that was two thousand and six, maybe something like that.

00:36:08
Speaker 4: I don't remember exactly, but I had because of American Pie. I had started my charity back in two thousand and one, which meant everything to me, and so when they started doing a celebrity poker showdown, it was to raise or to get money for a charity of your choice, and that's all I needed to hear, like at that point, anything that gets money from my charity.

00:36:28
Speaker 6: I'll do it.

00:36:29
Speaker 4: I had never played Texas hold Him once. Wow, being from Texas, I played cards. I played cards with my grandmother quite a bit when I was young, but I didn't know this card game and they literally taught me how to play backstage before we shot the show, and so I was probably I think I was first out.

00:36:48
Speaker 6: I had no idea what I was doing.

00:36:50
Speaker 1: How much of magical superpowers do you have? Where you're just like and it was the first time I drive a car and then I won. The five hundred was fast, but still then it became a thing right away. I mean it's like you're finding all these skills all of a sudden. It's so crazy.

00:37:07
Speaker 4: Well, I mean for that it was five thousand to my charity just for appearing on the show.

00:37:13
Speaker 6: That was like fine.

00:37:14
Speaker 4: So then there was another opportunity to do something similar, and it just started happening where okay, all these that's how they got celebs to like play on things, is get money to charity. At the same time, a lot of the poker pros were fascinated with pop culture, and so a bunch of the poker pros started teaching a bunch of the actors. So I remember one of the one of the actors calling me and saying, I'm bringing people to your house. I'm bringing a poker pro and a bunch of people were they're going to teach us, Like okay, So then these two guys show up with and like I think Jennifer Tully was there and Nick and Zalez. There were a bunch of people there, and there were these two guys that they brought and I'm sitting there the whole time going which the pro, which one's the pro? Like, I don't know who these guys are, And the only thing I knew about poker at this point were their nicknames, Like I didn't know the real name.

00:38:09
Speaker 6: So you remember there was the Unibomber, there was the Magician.

00:38:12
Speaker 1: There was okay, wait, there's an actual poker player called them yeah, Glass.

00:38:20
Speaker 4: And yeah, and so that was his nickname. So one of the guys was very analytical and mathematical and this is how you do it mathematically, and the other one's like, don't listen to him.

00:38:33
Speaker 6: That's not how you do it. You do it like this gut instinct. Blah blah blah blah blah. Turns out they're both the pros and one was the UNI bomber and one was the magician. And I had no idea.

00:38:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I eventually I just there was a moment where I'm like, oh, it's not about the cards. It's a psychological game, and which I love, Like that's my thing.

00:38:57
Speaker 6: I love. Once I realized it really was and about.

00:39:00
Speaker 4: The cards, I had fun with it because when I was used to like five card draw or seven card stud or something where you might draw cards or discard, I was.

00:39:11
Speaker 6: Like, you just get your cards and that's it. That's so stupid, so boring, Like I didn't.

00:39:15
Speaker 1: Get it, you know.

00:39:17
Speaker 6: But then once I got it, I'm like, oh, I really liked this game. Okay, yeah, but.

00:39:24
Speaker 1: Poker is fun.

00:39:25
Speaker 2: To I could compete in the world is a big step.

00:39:30
Speaker 1: How crazy?

00:39:31
Speaker 2: How did you do it?

00:39:32
Speaker 4: Sponsored It wasn't my money, so it was Okay. I this was back when a lot of the big online online poker sites were doing deals with a lot of people to wear their logos. So whether it was poker pros or actors or whatever, it was like, where are logo in these televised events and it helps to advertise them? So I mean I was getting I was contracts from people to wear their logo. So for me, it was a way to not bug my agents if I wasn't getting an audition, or I wasn't getting a job, or I wasn't working. It gave me another like avenue to focus on. And in the beginning, it was all about making money for my charity, and then suddenly I had this deal that was supporting myself by just like wearing the logo at these events. I'm like, oh wait, you're saying I have to go to Australia to play for free?

00:40:29
Speaker 6: Sure, okay, yeah, sign me up.

00:40:33
Speaker 4: So I mean that's why I got to play. It wasn't my money. I was actually required to play, and I loved it.

00:40:40
Speaker 2: It just was so much fun to Being an actor from American Pie was an advantage or a disadvantage.

00:40:48
Speaker 4: And absolutely an advantage. Okay, I mean because when you wear let's say you've got to see of a thousand people and they have like one camera going around covering people, They're gonna go cover the people that they know. So because I was there, I was a girl, I was an actor. They recognized me from a movie. So I was getting the airtime, which is what gave me the deals. That's why they were offering me the deals because they knew I would the cameras would go to me.

00:41:21
Speaker 6: So that's the only reason.

00:41:22
Speaker 4: If I was just some girl playing poker, they wouldn't have given me a deal.

00:41:26
Speaker 6: I wasn't good enough.

00:41:27
Speaker 1: So you said, your sponsored to be there, your sponsor. You're making the money from the logos and all the sponsorship stuff, but you're playing with somebody else's money. So if you win, do you not keep the money? Then that you would win in the poker tournament because it wasn't your money to play with. How does that work?

00:41:43
Speaker 4: Everyone had a different deal. Some people had deals where there was a split. I had a deal that if I win the money, I'd keep the money, because if they knew the chances were I wasn't gonna win the money.

00:41:56
Speaker 6: They ever really slim.

00:42:00
Speaker 1: Well, that's the best way. You gambling with somebody else's money, but you keep all the winnings. That's the best way to play. Yeah.

00:42:06
Speaker 6: Yeah, god, I mean it was.

00:42:08
Speaker 4: Just yeah, I just got really lucky. And yeah, it was just a great period of time. It was like a you know, I think the acting community becomes kind of like a family, and it became like the poker community felt like a second family to me.

00:42:24
Speaker 6: So it was it was amazing cool.

00:42:26
Speaker 2: Well, you've mentioned it a couple of times the Shannon Elizabeth Foundation. Have you always been connected to animals?

00:42:33
Speaker 6: Always?

00:42:33
Speaker 4: When I was a little girl, I remember riding in the car with my dad and it was Texas, so we had a lot of armadillos and there would be like a dead armadilla in the road and I would scream.

00:42:46
Speaker 6: And cry and he would slam on the brakes.

00:42:49
Speaker 1: What what.

00:42:50
Speaker 4: I'm like, there was a dead animal and He's like, but I thought I was going to hit someone.

00:42:53
Speaker 6: I'm like, that'd be better than hitting the animal.

00:42:55
Speaker 4: Like, I just like was always connected to animals. And we had a dog when I was young that my parents got before I was born, and when she was no longer with us, they didn't want to get another animal because they knew I would be out of the house before the animal would be And.

00:43:14
Speaker 6: I was like, when I grow up, I have tons of animals.

00:43:17
Speaker 4: Tons let men to have a farm of animals. So I know, like what a sanctuary was. I didn't know about Africa at that point. I just knew I wanted to be surrounded by animals, so that was always in the cards for me.

00:43:32
Speaker 2: So is that what led you to Cape Town, South Africa, which is where you spend most of your time now?

00:43:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's one hundred percent. So in twenty fourteen, I ended up moving from Hollywood to New York and when I was out there, there was a ivory and rhino horn crush in Times Square and so I got invited to go to that and there were a lot of conservation is there from all over the world, but a lot from Africa. And that was my introduction to meeting a bunch of people in this space. So I started putting a trip together to come out to South Africa, Zimbabwe and Kenya just to learn meet people and understand the issues and try to figure out like what I could do.

00:44:24
Speaker 1: Well.

00:44:24
Speaker 4: I what I missed in that story is that I started following when I was in New York, I started following a lot of these conservation organizations and there was a video on Instagram that flipped a switch in me. I was getting ready to go out one night and something in my head said, check Instagram. And I didn't even know what I was checking for, because I wasn't a big social media person, but I started checking and I came across this video of this ranger scanning what he saw in front of him, and you could see a trunk of an elephant off to one side, and then you saw the rest of the elephant and you hear him say this poor baby's been out here all night suffering, and then she moves. And it was the first time I realized the torture that they were going through and that they were still alive feeling everything.

00:45:20
Speaker 6: I guess I just assumed that.

00:45:23
Speaker 4: You would kill the animal and then you would take the horn or take the ivory. But they were immobilizing the animal and taking it while they were still alive, and they do that all the time, and that it flipped a switch in me, and I said, this is what I want to do with the charity. This is you know. We started as a dog and cat rescue in LA and I knew I wanted to help more animals on a bigger scale. I didn't know what that looked like. And once I saw that, I knew that that's what I wanted to do. That the idea that these animals could go extinct in our lifetime just didn't compute. And I didn't feel like I could sit by and do nothing after knowing that, So eventually I decided I was moving out here to be closer to the issues and be able to meet more people in the space and really figure out, like what could I do to help? Like I'm still questioning that all the time, Like am I doing anything that's helping? What can I do?

00:46:22
Speaker 6: What more can I do?

00:46:23
Speaker 4: And it's always evolving, it's always changing, But I mean that's the goal. Is I feel like it's my mission, Like whereas acting was my job, but my mission for being here on the planet was to help the animals.

00:46:39
Speaker 1: Is it getting better? Is it getting better now for the for the elephants and the rhinos, and I mean, is it better than it was? Is are you seeing a trend where the everybody you know eyes on it now? And social media and there's cameras all over the place that maybe it is trending in the right direction.

00:46:55
Speaker 4: Or no, it's it's a tough thing to say because you don't my answer could lead the poachers to information, right, Okay, So what happens is a lot of people keep things very quiet, so people in the community here will know things that are not public knowledge because the poachers know to watch, to listen, to look for things. They get information online the same way we do.

00:47:26
Speaker 6: Sure, so everything people have.

00:47:28
Speaker 4: To hide their animals. So I will say, yes, I feel like it is trending in the right direction. There's always going to be. It's the syndicates. So I mean, you probably remember a while back there was a lot of talk of Boka Haram and some of the al Shabab and these syndicates that they kidnapped a bunch of schoolgirls, which is where I think we first heard about one of them.

00:47:57
Speaker 6: So what they do is they look for ways to fund terrorism.

00:48:02
Speaker 4: And wildlife trafficking and aparts is the easiest way for them to get money to buy guns. So if they go out or they pay like tiny amounts to a local villager and they'll supply them with.

00:48:21
Speaker 6: A panga, which is a big knife and.

00:48:25
Speaker 1: A gun.

00:48:25
Speaker 4: And they say, bring us back a rhino horn. And you bring us back a rhino horn, will give you one thousand dollars. Now that rhino horn on the black market is worth half a million dollars. And they're giving the local villager like one thousand dollars, and that local villager, for them, that's more than they're going to make. You know, that's life for them. So as much as people don't want to do it, when you're faced with that and you have a family to feed and you don't know what else to do. And quite often these syndicates they know how to blackmail people. They set them up to blackmail them. And so even with a lot of people in high positions, whether that's here or anywhere, governments, you know, anybody who works in high positions, it's easy to fall into something where they look for a weakness. Now this I mean you see this on probably CSI. They look for a weakness where it's like, oh, oh you need money for your child surgery, let us take care of that, let me fix.

00:49:33
Speaker 1: That for you.

00:49:34
Speaker 6: You're going to take it. Now you belong to them.

00:49:38
Speaker 4: Now, now you have to keep doing what they say, and this is the problem, and this is the cycle, and they're very well funded, they're very clever.

00:49:47
Speaker 6: And it's very hard to get out of that, and especially.

00:49:50
Speaker 4: When they're like, oh, you don't want to do that, we'll kill you and your kids, will kill your wife and your kids first, and you're going to watch like it's just it's really brutal. So it's a true war what's happening. And I think anybody in conservation just accepts that it is a war and it's very dangerous and you might get killed. So I mean, I we we have bulletproof best on our sanctuary, Like I have a bulletproof best if because if if it does get infiltrated when.

00:50:23
Speaker 6: I'm there, there's nothing you can do.

00:50:26
Speaker 4: And you've got your anti poaching, but really, and I'm not allowed to have a licensed gun here because I'm not from here, So all I can have is say, like a like a BB gun kind of thing that can do nylon bullets or.

00:50:48
Speaker 6: Pepper spray bullets or stuff.

00:50:49
Speaker 4: But I mean, that's that's the most I'm allowed to have here. So you just kind of accept and you you you ask the universe to protect you. Basically like, if I'm meant to be doing this work, protect me, protect the sanctuary, protect everything we're doing so that we can keep helping and you know, working with local communities and trying to uplift the local communities so that they also become your protectors, you know. And the more you can work with a community around you, the better. And then they don't want to come in and hurt the animals. They want to protect you because you're helping them have a livelihood of their own and they don't need the money from the poachers.

00:51:31
Speaker 6: That's the real answer.

00:51:33
Speaker 4: But there's just so many parks and so many communities it becomes like everybody can do their little part. There is no magic bullet, but if everyone does their part and their area and their community, it can make a big difference.

00:51:49
Speaker 2: Wow, will you have been all over the news these past few weeks for yr Yes, for your maybe your newest era. You launched an only fans account and it is a subscription service where fans can connect directly to you and interact. It is most famously known for adult entertainment. But tell us about what this new journey is for you and how it came together.

00:52:30
Speaker 4: So I've been going through a divorce. It was my second marriage and it was someone out here in South Africa, and I was working on a film in November in Canada. Now my first ex husband who is my best friend and he's my manager.

00:52:50
Speaker 6: And he's my acting coach, like he's everywhere. His name is Joe.

00:52:55
Speaker 4: So Joe was up in Canada with me and we were just chatting about, well, now what's next. You know, I'm going through this divorce and am I going to stay in South Africa? Yes, because I'm working on the charity. I'm working on the Sanctuary and you know, but it's it's hard because a lot of the acting is in the US and I'm not there, and so it's hard to support myself sometimes while I'm working on the charity stuff. And I told him how much I love connecting with fans when I do like comic cons. I've been doing comic cons for years now, and I've told the best stories by people that the movies that I've done meant something to them. And I've never gotten to see my career from a different lens, if that makes sense. So now i feel like I'm seeing some of my work but from their viewpoint, which I never thought about before. I'd never really put myself in a different position to look at my own life, and it's been so amazing and touching to experience that from a different viewpoint. And so I told him how much I love connecting with my fans. And back when American Pie happened, we had built a website. And at that time, actors didn't have websites. It was a really new thing. Only adult entertainers had websites. There were no actors' websites at the time, so people thought we were crazy for trying to do a website. And in that we did, like we tried to do a fan club kind of thing and I would chat with people on there, and it was just before it's time. The technology wasn't great.

00:54:44
Speaker 6: It was hard.

00:54:46
Speaker 4: We tried to do like live streams, and I had worked with Maxim a few times and we I think Maxim hosted a live stream and we crashed the server and it was just the technology wasn't there yet. So Joe knew about the platform. I really didn't know anything about it, and he's he's he was working on an actually like a kind of documentary thing about it. So he had done a lot of research on it. He goes, well, what if what if you did your page there for fans? And we just started exploring the idea and asking about it. And I knew Denise was on there, Richard, so I you know, I'd worked with Denise in Love actually, so I contacted her and asked some questions.

00:55:33
Speaker 6: And yeah, the next thing I know, it was like, well, yeah, let's do this, let's try it, Let's have some fun.

00:55:41
Speaker 4: Why not.

00:55:42
Speaker 2: So that's you know, that's where it's starting.

00:55:45
Speaker 4: We're at.

00:55:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what can fans expect when they sign up for your only fans? Because reports have said that you brought in one million dollars in just your first week, and obviously when people hear only fans, they have expectations. So what can people expect from you when they sign up?

00:56:03
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so yeah, in the first it did very well in the first nine days, so almost a week. But yeah, you know, everybody asked, well, what are the boundaries? And I think I'm still exploring that myself. I don't know, because I've only been doing this less than a month and I'm constantly doing content, and the more I do the content, the more comfortable I get with myself and with like chatting with the fans and and just putting like my life out there. Doing content is very different and very new for me, Yeah, because I never really did it even on like Instagram and Facebook, and you know, I would do stuff now and then, and I'm like, nobody cares what I'm meeting, Like nobody cares what I'm doing here, Like I don't, you know, I really didn't expect the kind of response that we've gotten at all. I was just hoping somebody would show up, Like I didn't know what it was going to do, and so I'm I'm still trying.

00:57:03
Speaker 6: To figure out.

00:57:05
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know. I mean, I've done everything from putting on a face mask and going to bed and getting up in the morning and like just content of my life and behind the scenes and things that I'm doing and you know, hanging out by myself and just talking about like thoughts in my head. Like I'm doing like everything I can to just share my day to day life so that fans feel like they're there with me and they're a part of it and they get that inside scoop of.

00:57:33
Speaker 1: What it's like.

00:57:34
Speaker 4: I think I even I even did a video of my work, my actual workout with my trainer and.

00:57:41
Speaker 6: Just like, you know, this is this is what I'm doing, this is my life. So I'm doing a little of everything.

00:57:48
Speaker 2: Great. Oh yeah, well, Channon, thank you so much for stopping by. It is amazing how over your lifetime you have taken on so many different challenges, whether it's tennis or acting, or poker or your charity. You've just like really dived headfirst into everything you've done. So we're excited to see where you go next.

00:58:09
Speaker 3: Thank you.

00:58:10
Speaker 4: I'd love to say that on June twenty eighth in Las Vegas, we're doing a fundraiser and it's a poker fundraiser and it's during the World Series of Poker, just before the main event.

00:58:21
Speaker 6: Zon papping into that community. So I would love how do you guys go?

00:58:26
Speaker 2: Where will people find more information about that?

00:58:29
Speaker 4: So if you go to our instagram Shannon Elizabeth FDN for foundation at Shane Elizabeth FDN. We've put a link in the bio for tickets. We're starting to do a lot of press on it.

00:58:42
Speaker 6: It'll be a link. There will be a link in my bio as well. I just haven't gotten there yet.

00:58:47
Speaker 4: Okay, but but yeah, we're getting some amazing response for it. We're going to have some like surprise activations during it. We did it a couple of years ago and it was so much fun. So now it's bigger and better and we'll have some celebrity bounties that'll be in the tournaments, so inviting all of you to come be a part of it, let me know. And yeah, and if people sign up before the end of May, they get extra chips, which always helps because it is a cash prize, so you are playing for actual cash at the end of the day, so you need as many chips as you can.

00:59:25
Speaker 2: Great.

00:59:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun.

00:59:27
Speaker 4: And there's quite a well known tournament director named Matt Savage who's going to be our Master of Ceremonies, so it'll it'll be a fun time to tap into back into the poker community. I was a little scared doing it a couple of years ago and we had such an amazing turnout, so like, yeah, now we have the South African poker community that travels.

00:59:49
Speaker 6: There as well.

00:59:50
Speaker 4: So it was a battle between the US pros and the South African pros, which I kind of loved.

00:59:56
Speaker 2: I love that. That sounds so much fun. Great. You can go to Shannon Elizabeth FDN on Instagram to get more information and your tickets for that. Thank you, Shannon, Thank you for being with us.

01:00:08
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you guys. It was so much fun.

01:00:10
Speaker 2: Yes, go get some sleep.

01:00:15
Speaker 6: I actually have another one of these to do and.

01:00:19
Speaker 4: Enjoy.

01:00:19
Speaker 1: We do too.

01:00:22
Speaker 4: Thank you.

01:00:23
Speaker 6: Have a good night.

01:00:26
Speaker 2: Crazy South African.

01:00:31
Speaker 1: That's that's good joke either. I mean getting the pacher like hu, what a hugely dangerous people, what a thing to tackle, craziness crazy.

01:00:43
Speaker 2: Also, I'm so annoyed by the fact that I am not sure what the past tense of dive is is dove dove that's not a word.

01:00:53
Speaker 1: Do I dove into the pool. I dove into a career.

01:00:58
Speaker 2: I would never say dove. I want to say something else. I don't like it.

01:01:01
Speaker 4: I don't.

01:01:02
Speaker 1: You don't use when doves cry?

01:01:08
Speaker 3: Thank you.

01:01:09
Speaker 1: That's what bothers me. Now we just dove.

01:01:13
Speaker 2: But yes, I don't like it. I love it.

01:01:16
Speaker 3: Will and I both made the same joke in two different drugs.

01:01:20
Speaker 1: Were like.

01:01:22
Speaker 4: Doves.

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