Chapter 2 Ep. 25 Independence Day, Rad Poker and Poker HOF

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Podcasting from the ad up studio.

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It's the longest running Poker podcast

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for the everyday Poker player,

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with your host. Go scale.

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Hello, a team and welcome back to the

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Anti up poker podcast.

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Where every hand is an opportunity.

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Every player is a friend. An

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episode is winning

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experience.

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I'm your host, Joe Scales, and welcome to

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the independence Day weekend edition of the podcast.

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Obviously,

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we have family helping me out and great

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job, guys.

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They... They're gonna keep me on my toes.

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They might be after my job.

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I hope you are all able to be

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around family and friends as well.

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Whether you're firing up the grill,

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watching fireworks

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or just spending quality time together,

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maybe even play in some poker.

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Take a moment to appreciate the freedom and

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opportunities we have. And to honor those who

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have put themselves in harm way to protect

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them.

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So grab a drink,

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maybe a maker's mark sit back and enjoy

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this episode of the Idiot Poker podcast.

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There's

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so much poker going on right now

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everywhere,

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Obviously, we're headed out to Vegas to cover

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the W sop, but there are big tournaments

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happening in

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Oklahoma, California,

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Ohio,

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Europe,

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Poker is alive,

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and it's an exciting time to cover the

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game.

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If you'd like to be a part of

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the Any up team of ambassadors,

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covering poker in your area, send me an

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email to podcast at any at magazine dot

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com.

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We still have some rooms left on the

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cruise as well. It's if you're on the

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fence,

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the time has come.

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We're we're closing in on that date that

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we have to give any un sold rooms

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back to the cruise line.

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Which means the price will go up.

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Selfish officially, I wanna see as many of

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you guys as I can on this trip.

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I don't get the opportunity to meet as

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many of the team as I would like.

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So

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this is my chance to have you all

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in 1 place.

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So join us and let's have some fun

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together.

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That's all I have. So

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let's get on with the show.

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Find out what conversations are happening around the

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poker table.

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With table tom.

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LNIR

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back around the Poker table.

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Independence day weekend? That's right.

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Yesterday was fourth in July.

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Today's the fifth of July.

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And lot of festivities though

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still going on because it is the weekend.

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Yeah. Can't we wait to take the grandkids

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if I works tonight. Cannot wait. Still battling

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sinus infection. Moving on.

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Yeah. It...

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Because of

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all of the holiday stuff and whatnot,

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we...

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Told everybody, we were having Na sean rad

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from Rad Poker on, we are.

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But with everything going on, we had to

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record that a little bit early, I wasn't

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able to make it. Yeah.

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But,

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when we talked to Sean, we talked about

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the Andy up. Yeah. Poker games that they're

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gonna have on the site. So I'm excited

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about that. Me too. It's gonna it's gonna

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go for a while and it starts today,

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and I'm pumped. Yeah. We talked about in

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the interview, we were saying there there's some

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still things we need to work out, and

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we were gonna have that up soon.

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But it... We we got them worked out

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quicker than we thought we were going to.

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It's gonna start today. Thanks, Sean. So excited.

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I wish I'd been able to meet you

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in and it just didn't work workout with

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their schedules, but

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super

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super.

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Excited about that. Can't wait to you guys

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on that platform. Can't wait to play with

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you.

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And You know I'm gonna be there. I'm

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gonna be playing with you guys, so sign

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up for sure. Yeah. Absolutely.

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We would be remiss not to mention the

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W sop this week. Well, of course, the

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main event has officially started. And the Quad

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are real. Fully...

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I have never seen so many quad ever.

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I know you would think that they were

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a common occurrence. Like, they're just popping up

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all over the place and big hands happening

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with them. Yeah. So

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we we actually watched

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the...

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Feature table,

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and miss Rocky and Hash. Mh. Got into

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a hand,

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that was real saying. On.

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Real. Pocket fours versus pocket sixes.

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And then they didn't even bet on the

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river. Yeah. That That's in insane. Docking.

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Insane. There's no way. There had to be

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some money that went into that. You would

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think. But, you know, you get in a

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feature table you're playing?

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In a special spot, and sometimes you're little

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nervous and you're not...

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So, basically, it it was...

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Pocket 4 is packet 6,

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ace ace 4 on the flop. Miss Rocky

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made a full house. Yeah. The 6 comes

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on the turn.

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To give

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Hash

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a better full house and a 4 comes

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on the river to give Miss rocky quad.

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Amazing. And nobody bet it.

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I know. It went. Check check on the

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turn and the river. Unlike,

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unlike,

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the gentleman who... I have never met you,

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I would love to give you a hell

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right now. But unlike the man who put

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all of his chips,

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in, in the firsthand on day 1? First

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hand. Dude, are you here to stay or

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play? Like, what

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help me understand that?

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I mean, basic strategy is if if you

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wanna play in the tournament, you don't bet

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all of your tips in the first hand.

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Yeah. He had a full house also,

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but

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again, beat by Quad. So

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Unreal...

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Real.

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First firsthand of the tournament.

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We also enjoyed

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watching Jamie K.

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I wanted to be on a rails so

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bad. I was so proud of her friends

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to bring picture of her dog and put

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it up there. Yeah. That was cool. I

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thought that was really cool.

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We... I was

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rooting

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loudly

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in our in our living room for you,

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Jamie. Really hoping to be able to see

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you next week.

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As well,

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congratulations to both.

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Sheena O, who took it down. She was

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second place last year. She came back with,

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first place in mind, and she did it.

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Yep. Jamie K said, a hell of a

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play for many days. Yeah. She. Well done,

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we're still very very proud of you. Yeah.

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It was definitely well deserved by Locomotive, but

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we were we were pulling for Jamie for

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sure. Hundred percent. But, you know, when when

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Moto,

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finished last year.

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Second place,

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she said that she didn't feel like she

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was aggressive enough. Oh, she turned that around

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real quick. She's definitely aggressive. Yeah. She definitely

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took that

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into account this year.

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There's told lady. Yeah. I... Absolutely. And there's

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just been there's been so much going on.

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If the... At... I can't wait to get

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out there and see it. Just to stand

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there, just to feel the energy to be

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be amongst everyone, we can't wait. If you're

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gonna be there the ninth through the nineteenth.

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Just let us know. We. We would love

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to

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say hi, shake your hand,

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give you some swag that we're bringing some

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little swag, some teeny tiny small swag. This

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we're lying, but my guess, I hope that

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we get to see if the homie rant.

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Well those have been real. Those have been

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real. However, very proud of him going for

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a run it. 02:30 in the morning.

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That's the way to handle

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your emotions, when you know you're not gonna

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be able to rest, get it out. Okay?

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I mean, I think he's been doing this

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long enough, and I'm proud of him. He's

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doing he's putting forth the physical and the

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mental work

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to reset himself because he's got...

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A grand entrance as he says... I cannot

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wait to see this too because he gave

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a little... What what he little sneak peek

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into

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what his grand entrance was gonna. The music's

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is great. I just really hope he's not

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gonna be, like, a circus leader again or

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Mermaid or something. That's just kind of

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I'm not... I'm not in all that. But

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anyhow. Yeah. He explain he played the...

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Everybody was Kung fighting.

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So what is he gonna be dressed as

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a panda? I mean...

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Oh, I didn't even go panda. I was

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just, like... Oh, well, 2... Too many years

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ago.

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Teaching elementary school. Kung is Kung fu panda

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to me. But okay. Who knows? What he

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always provides some sort of grand entertainment,

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but Man is he had some...

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Explosive moments as well. When when Alex Fox

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knocked them out of the du to 7

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single draw,

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talk about some

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exploit being

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thrown around. I mean,

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Again, though, props putting in the work to

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getting your head straight

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go for a run, signed 7000

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autograph

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on your desk. For relief. Yeah. And

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out for a minute. Yeah. It's what you

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gotta do.

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And

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on the flip side of that, you've got

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Scott Si, who

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has won 3 bracelets

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this year. Yeah. Like, that puts him in

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pretty elite company. It's his... He's only... He's

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got 7 overall Almost said he only has

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7. He has 7 overall now,

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but 3 of them have come this year.

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Which is incredible. And there's only been, like,

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5 people that have done that. Yeah. You're

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run good is running good. Yeah. It's running

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real good.

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And then, of course,

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the

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nominations

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have been narrowed down to the top 10,

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the final 10 for the Poke hall fame.

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Oh. Who is?? So you've got Patrick Antonio.

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Josh Aria,

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Barney Boat, Miami John Ser.

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Ted Forest, Kathy Lie again,

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Mike the mouth,

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Matt Savage,

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Esa Sc,

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Bill smith.

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I just don't understand why we're only putting

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1.

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Into the holiday. Well, because that's the prestige.

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That's 1. It's 1 a year. There's so

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much talent

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we can put to it

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Also,

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why don't we put it into categories?

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Like

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media or

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tournament directors or, you know,

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that side of it, and then the player

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side of it. That's the prestige. But Matt

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Savage, ninth time overall being... Nominated for this.

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We're pulling for you big time, buddy. Yeah.

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I... He needs to get in. Yep. 100

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percent needs to be in.

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He's done so much for the game.

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Yeah. Even just in the middle of the

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w sop leading the Td summit. Yeah.

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Which

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this was the year. So...

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And we'll we'll talk we'll talk more about

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that with with Elliott. I'm sure, but a

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lot of really good topics this year.

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Elliott was there at the summit. Right. And

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I'm

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admittedly a

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stats nerd, so I listened to it.

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I've I actually, I haven't made it all

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the way through the second day. Yeah. But

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we had hoped to have been out there

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for it. But... Yeah. Scheduled in allow. So

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tuned in virtually, which is always a nice

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option. Thanks Yeah. Yeah. It...

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Like I said, so many good topics.

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And great discussions. I I think that was

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my favorite part is just listening to everybody's

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different viewpoint on the the stuff, you know?

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It's an important event, and it's

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the reason that everybody can stay

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on the same page. So

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thank you, Matt for all the effort you

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put into that, you and your team.

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I know that it creates continuity

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across all rooms.

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And events, and so

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so important. Yeah.

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Yeah. So

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what else do we have going on? We

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we gotta get

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We've gotta get our stuff packed up. We

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leave

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02:30AM.

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Yeah. So we've got a few days, and

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then we're on a plane. Yeah. I can't

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wait. We're gonna be on the strip. We're

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gonna be downtown. We're gonna be back on

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the strip. We're gonna be all over the

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police.

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Really meeting with

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a bunch of important people trying to get

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some things done there too. So lots of

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fun. Yeah.

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Let's go hang out with our grandkids.

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Yeah. Let's do that. You and I will

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sign off, but,

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everybody keep listening. Because N nissan Rad from

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Rad poker is coming up, and

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there's some exciting things to

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stay tuned for there

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But

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yeah.

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As always, Joe, it's a pleasure being around

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the table with you. Likewise.

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N sean Rad is

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joining me here.

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First of all, welcome.

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Thank you, Jo. I appreciate sir.

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I have been

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I've been obsessed.

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With Rad poker. Oh, I love to hear

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it.

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And we talk about this on

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the podcast a lot, my favorite

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type of poker is heads up poker. Yeah.

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This whole site is heads up poker. Mh.

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So I have just... I I go down

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rabbit holes. Where I'm just, like, somebody get

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on and play. I wanna I wanna play

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now.

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Yes. Yes.

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So

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just right out of the box. I want

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to... I wanna

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say that, but tell us a little bit

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about you. Tell us a little bit about

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how this whole thing came to be the

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concept of the game because it's a it's

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it's a faster game too, which I love.

384
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Definitely.

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Definitely. So I I grew up playing Poker,

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yeah, you, you know, even before college. And

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kinda during college, I was...

388
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On the weekends or on Thursday nights really

389
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in particular, I would drive down Fox woods

390
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in play.

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And,

392
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you know, I always thought I was good.

393
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It was a lot of fun for me.

394
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I like the competitive, you know, the nature

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of poker. I love the fact you can

396
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win money. I like...

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Trying to read people and all that all

398
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that fun stuff that comes with Poker.

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And

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kinda after college, I found myself

401
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not playing as much poker. And it's mainly

402
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because it it's, you know, it's so time

403
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consuming to sit down. Right, out at of

404
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at a table for what you... You really

405
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need just sit down for a few hours.

406
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Right? To really give yourself a chance and

407
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and, I think At sure. Would tell you

408
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that.

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And

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I also... You know, some of my friends

411
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I played Poker were like, Sean, could you

412
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state me? And I was like, you're not

413
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even good. Like, why would I

414
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Like, what are you talked about?

415
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And and then III kinda sat down and

416
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thought I was, well, there's really no way.

417
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Outside of

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understanding how much money somebody's 1. There's no

419
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way to you know, rate a poker player.

420
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You know, you can you can watch and

421
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play, you can see them win big pots,

422
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you can you can see at their lifetime

423
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earnings. But if you're not playing really big

424
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pots or, you know, high stakes.

425
00:15:13,572 --> 00:15:15,403
You're not... You don't have, like, a true

426
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rating in poker. And I also got a

427
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little bit into... I got,

428
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into Chess and Lee chest and

429
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bullet bullet chess. And I really liked bait

430
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system, and I also liked how quick it

431
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was I could play a game and, you

432
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know, all much shorter than playing a poker

433
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map. Right? Or a poker, you know, sitting

434
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out our poker. Sure. So

435
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so I wanted to

436
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kinda combine both of those things. Right? I

437
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liked Heads up Poker, Right just playing with

438
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my friends in college.

439
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And

440
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so I like the heads up aspect, and

441
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I also liked, you know, what what what

442
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Chess brought, which is, like a rating system

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to playing.

444
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And so I kinda... I just... I was

445
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like, well, like, what if you could get

446
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a rating in poker, but also

447
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get your poker fix in 5 minutes. Right?

448
00:16:00,990 --> 00:16:01,490
And

449
00:16:02,028 --> 00:16:04,823
5 5 minutes, and you can play 5

450
00:16:04,823 --> 00:16:07,138
games in 25 minutes. Right? And just kinda

451
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go through that indoor swing. And

452
00:16:10,021 --> 00:16:11,848
so I I would just mash them both

453
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together. So I I, you know, I developed

454
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a rating system. It's very similar to.

455
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The chest rating system, we've made some

456
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enhancements based on the fact that Chess is

457
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obviously much different than Poker. And we don't

458
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wanna arm someone that much if you get

459
00:16:28,366 --> 00:16:30,520
a bad beat on the river. Right? And

460
00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,354
you had a 95 percent chance of winning.

461
00:16:32,514 --> 00:16:34,747
You just caught... Someone caught that that final...

462
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That my part. Right So So we have

463
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made adjustments to our rating system with poker

464
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in mind, and

465
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we've... We're always kinda tweaking...

466
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And working through, well, like, what's the best

467
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amount of time you should give someone, but

468
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also not make the game too long. Right?

469
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Like, the idea of Rad poker is that

470
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you're able to get that poker fixed really

471
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quickly. So that's what we we focused on,

472
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and we've found that we, you know, we...

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I we we feel like we found our

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niche. So we're really

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kind of excited for what's next. And,

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really driving driving users and getting more and

477
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more feedback to continue develop, red poker the

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the application itself.

479
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Well, I know you mentioned you really enjoyed

480
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the heads up variant, but it really works

481
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super well

482
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with that.

483
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Time

484
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element in there too. I mean, I know

485
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you said you were looking for that balance.

486
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Yeah. Like, it wouldn't be

487
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long enough.

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If you were setting at a full table

489
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of people correct. But it's the perfect amount

490
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of time for just

491
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heads up And so Yeah,

492
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So kudos on that. But

493
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is that kind why you chose the heads

494
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up variant because you could really get it

495
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done quickly or was it more of a

496
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you know I just really like this the

497
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style.

498
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Good question. I

499
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I think it was it was really... It

500
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it was actually it was too prime. I'm

501
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a I'm a fan of Heads up Poker.

502
00:18:00,826 --> 00:18:02,730
Okay? I think it cuts away a lot

503
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of the Bs around not Bs. But, you

504
00:18:05,189 --> 00:18:08,157
know, just other variables. Right? You're just head

505
00:18:08,157 --> 00:18:09,835
to head. I really like that. I grew

506
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up playing tennis.

507
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Just a heads up... You know, heads up

508
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quieter in general. Right? I play tennis in

509
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college.

510
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And so

511
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I I love I love heads up, but

512
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also, it didn't make sense. Right? To build

513
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a full table. Like, everyone's has a full

514
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table. Like, let's do something a little bit

515
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different, and that makes sense in the scope

516
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of

517
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a quick game. Right?

518
00:18:31,893 --> 00:18:33,406
So that's why we kinda went that way.

519
00:18:33,804 --> 00:18:35,396
So tell me a little bit more about

520
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the point system. I know you said it's

521
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it's kinda

522
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based off of the chest.

523
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Point system. Yeah. But but so if I

524
00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:45,556
get really far behind in

525
00:18:46,014 --> 00:18:47,664
in 1 of the matches. Like, you've got

526
00:18:47,863 --> 00:18:50,482
a series going on right now. Mh. And

527
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if I were to fall just so far

528
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down there, how do I get back up

529
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and

530
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be competitive or,

531
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obviously, you don't wanna just quit because... No.

532
00:19:00,490 --> 00:19:02,075
Oh, dang like, I'm not gonna make that

533
00:19:02,075 --> 00:19:03,764
1 exactly. Exactly. So

534
00:19:04,234 --> 00:19:05,674
you know, if you play a lot of

535
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games,

536
00:19:07,115 --> 00:19:08,394
if you've played a lot of games, you

537
00:19:08,394 --> 00:19:09,595
have a lot of games under your belt

538
00:19:09,595 --> 00:19:10,394
in that tournament.

539
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And,

540
00:19:11,608 --> 00:19:14,305
it's going it will be more difficult to

541
00:19:14,305 --> 00:19:16,050
climb the leader board. Right? Even if you're

542
00:19:16,050 --> 00:19:17,637
playing, you know, players that are better than

543
00:19:17,637 --> 00:19:18,192
you and you're winning.

544
00:19:18,843 --> 00:19:20,834
And we did that on purpose. Right? That's

545
00:19:20,834 --> 00:19:23,223
that's kinda how the algorithm works because the

546
00:19:23,223 --> 00:19:25,294
more games you play the less the less

547
00:19:25,294 --> 00:19:26,887
variant in your squirrel. It's always trying to

548
00:19:26,887 --> 00:19:27,126
find.

549
00:19:27,938 --> 00:19:30,333
Eventually, like that, you know, that equilibrium or

550
00:19:30,333 --> 00:19:33,287
that that the correct score for you. So

551
00:19:33,287 --> 00:19:35,841
what we did introduce was the idea of

552
00:19:35,841 --> 00:19:38,408
resetting your rate, Right? So in a contest,

553
00:19:38,647 --> 00:19:40,958
let's say you just get unlocking. Like that

554
00:19:40,958 --> 00:19:43,509
just happens in poker, you get that. Right?

555
00:19:43,668 --> 00:19:45,834
And you'll lose a you know, a handful

556
00:19:45,834 --> 00:19:46,573
of hands

557
00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:48,623
in a row or a handful of games

558
00:19:48,623 --> 00:19:49,579
in a row, I should say.

559
00:19:50,615 --> 00:19:53,562
We allow users to just click a button

560
00:19:53,562 --> 00:19:53,961
on the app,

561
00:19:55,012 --> 00:19:57,006
you can reset your rating, and what that

562
00:19:57,006 --> 00:19:59,717
does is, it re... It it completely resets

563
00:19:59,717 --> 00:20:02,827
the rating algorithm and also resets your win

564
00:20:02,827 --> 00:20:03,465
loss record.

565
00:20:03,959 --> 00:20:05,718
So you're able to... It's almost like a

566
00:20:05,718 --> 00:20:08,115
a re buy back into a tournament. Right?

567
00:20:08,595 --> 00:20:10,672
You're just... You get you get busted, you

568
00:20:10,672 --> 00:20:10,992
felt,

569
00:20:11,551 --> 00:20:13,961
and you say, I'm gonna re buy. That's

570
00:20:13,961 --> 00:20:14,757
alright. I...

571
00:20:15,393 --> 00:20:16,984
And you were able to take another swing

572
00:20:16,984 --> 00:20:18,598
at the tournament. So

573
00:20:19,053 --> 00:20:21,439
that's it. That's that's that's what kind resetting

574
00:20:21,439 --> 00:20:23,681
your rating does. There's a minimum number of

575
00:20:23,681 --> 00:20:24,714
games that you have to play for it.

576
00:20:24,873 --> 00:20:26,939
Does it reset that as well? Yes. So

577
00:20:26,939 --> 00:20:29,744
it does. And we actually recently

578
00:20:30,198 --> 00:20:32,463
introduced a new feature. Because

579
00:20:33,239 --> 00:20:35,414
let's say you're playing you're

580
00:20:35,872 --> 00:20:36,770
10 to

581
00:20:37,148 --> 00:20:39,142
and you're like, man. I am on a

582
00:20:39,142 --> 00:20:41,375
hot streak. I playing really well.

583
00:20:42,028 --> 00:20:43,167
And you're playing

584
00:20:43,625 --> 00:20:46,418
and you match up with someone much worse

585
00:20:46,418 --> 00:20:48,253
than you. K? Let's type it that. Or

586
00:20:48,253 --> 00:20:49,610
much worse and you... As far as a

587
00:20:49,610 --> 00:20:51,561
rating goes. Sure. And

588
00:20:52,178 --> 00:20:52,576
you...

589
00:20:53,454 --> 00:20:55,549
I don't know. Your sister grabs your phone

590
00:20:55,607 --> 00:20:57,841
or your your wife calls and says you

591
00:20:57,841 --> 00:20:59,276
gotta go, and you can't finish the game.

592
00:20:59,436 --> 00:21:01,364
You lose. Okay. Whatever it may be or

593
00:21:01,364 --> 00:21:02,081
you get a bad beat.

594
00:21:02,878 --> 00:21:05,349
Your rating will go down substantially. Right? Or

595
00:21:05,349 --> 00:21:07,581
could go down substantially depending on on who

596
00:21:07,581 --> 00:21:10,223
you're playing What we introduced is the the

597
00:21:10,223 --> 00:21:11,974
idea of being able to delete your last

598
00:21:11,974 --> 00:21:12,292
loss.

599
00:21:13,008 --> 00:21:15,690
And that's just really because

600
00:21:16,687 --> 00:21:19,959
resetting your rating is great, and it's... There's

601
00:21:19,959 --> 00:21:20,597
a use for it,

602
00:21:21,395 --> 00:21:23,151
and deleting your last loss there's a different

603
00:21:23,151 --> 00:21:25,392
use for it just once per tournament, you're

604
00:21:25,392 --> 00:21:27,615
allowed to delete your last loss in the

605
00:21:27,615 --> 00:21:28,830
event that

606
00:21:29,204 --> 00:21:31,428
you real, like, you're playing really well, but

607
00:21:31,428 --> 00:21:33,509
you just have 1 game. You're like, I

608
00:21:33,509 --> 00:21:34,545
gotta get that 1 back.

609
00:21:35,262 --> 00:21:38,690
So Yeah. It removes... It it adjusts your

610
00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:41,082
rating back up to where you were before

611
00:21:41,082 --> 00:21:41,640
that last month.

612
00:21:42,371 --> 00:21:44,121
And show that what we introduce there.

613
00:21:45,155 --> 00:21:46,769
Yeah. That makes sense. Because

614
00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:48,439
just getting rid of

615
00:21:49,148 --> 00:21:50,823
like you said that 1 loss where you

616
00:21:50,823 --> 00:21:52,498
got super unlucky. Yes.

617
00:21:53,216 --> 00:21:55,449
But you don't wanna start all over. You

618
00:21:55,449 --> 00:21:57,204
don't wanna play 15 games again, maybe there's

619
00:21:57,204 --> 00:21:58,733
only an hour left in the tournament Right?

620
00:21:59,130 --> 00:22:01,908
Right. Right. Yep. Yeah. That makes a lot

621
00:22:01,908 --> 00:22:02,226
of sense.

622
00:22:03,019 --> 00:22:04,527
Well, III

623
00:22:04,527 --> 00:22:06,988
know last year, Mh. You had...

624
00:22:07,719 --> 00:22:08,539
A player

625
00:22:09,077 --> 00:22:10,296
that got stake

626
00:22:11,154 --> 00:22:13,252
into the the hustle

627
00:22:13,711 --> 00:22:17,076
livestream stream. So tell me, how a, how

628
00:22:17,076 --> 00:22:19,070
did that come about and then or b,

629
00:22:19,629 --> 00:22:22,260
how did they do? Yeah. Good question. So

630
00:22:22,260 --> 00:22:24,015
we actually had a handful of player state.

631
00:22:24,904 --> 00:22:27,839
Okay. Actually every month, and we would... You'd

632
00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:30,140
play on Rad Poker, You'd win the monthly

633
00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:30,616
contest,

634
00:22:31,092 --> 00:22:32,124
the H nhl contest.

635
00:22:32,854 --> 00:22:33,354
And

636
00:22:33,809 --> 00:22:37,311
we would fly out to La, or just

637
00:22:37,311 --> 00:22:39,164
just south of La. I actually

638
00:22:39,539 --> 00:22:40,096
did a few...

639
00:22:40,893 --> 00:22:42,460
I would I would fly out there myself

640
00:22:42,579 --> 00:22:44,737
for almost all the guys and hand them

641
00:22:44,737 --> 00:22:47,134
the money myself, and then watch. So it

642
00:22:47,134 --> 00:22:48,972
was a lot of fun. Some there were

643
00:22:48,972 --> 00:22:50,810
some some some red eyes now.

644
00:22:51,623 --> 00:22:52,976
It was cliff tall.

645
00:22:54,806 --> 00:22:55,124
Alright.

646
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,829
But we... So we... We yeah. We stayed

647
00:22:57,829 --> 00:22:59,659
to a number of players it's 3000 dollar

648
00:22:59,659 --> 00:22:59,898
stake.

649
00:23:00,788 --> 00:23:01,288
And

650
00:23:01,745 --> 00:23:03,680
it was it was actually really

651
00:23:04,057 --> 00:23:05,194
interesting because

652
00:23:06,049 --> 00:23:08,064
first of all was a blast. For and

653
00:23:08,441 --> 00:23:10,610
like... Went really well and all the polite...

654
00:23:10,770 --> 00:23:12,845
Like, I enjoyed every every second of it.

655
00:23:13,244 --> 00:23:15,240
But I'm remember, the first person we stake,

656
00:23:15,639 --> 00:23:17,475
he got he got felt it pretty quick.

657
00:23:18,845 --> 00:23:20,278
In a couple hours. I when I say,

658
00:23:20,597 --> 00:23:22,987
pretty quick. Like, he get he lost. And

659
00:23:22,987 --> 00:23:25,138
then I wanna say the second person,

660
00:23:25,616 --> 00:23:26,651
which was derby doc.

661
00:23:27,224 --> 00:23:28,973
1 a few thousand dollars. And there was

662
00:23:28,973 --> 00:23:31,040
a handful of people to win money, and

663
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,346
there were some people that lost, but it

664
00:23:33,346 --> 00:23:35,039
was really cool because

665
00:23:35,667 --> 00:23:38,054
people that watch H, which is as we

666
00:23:38,054 --> 00:23:41,157
know, a very high high end production stream,

667
00:23:41,475 --> 00:23:42,191
it's awesome.

668
00:23:42,843 --> 00:23:44,437
And really fun to watch in high stakes.

669
00:23:44,756 --> 00:23:44,915
Right?

670
00:23:45,792 --> 00:23:47,466
Everyone thinks, man, if I was sitting down,

671
00:23:47,705 --> 00:23:48,980
I could play better than Nick Air ball.

672
00:23:49,140 --> 00:23:50,357
Or I could play better.

673
00:23:50,669 --> 00:23:52,893
You know, key whatever eating. Whatever whoever it

674
00:23:52,893 --> 00:23:53,369
is. Right?

675
00:23:54,322 --> 00:23:57,284
See of the ba, k, whoever. Right? And

676
00:23:57,420 --> 00:23:59,405
gave them a chance. Right? Some people are

677
00:23:59,405 --> 00:24:01,565
saying, oh, like, because even if you had

678
00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:03,629
this the, you know, there's a plenty of

679
00:24:03,629 --> 00:24:05,718
people that could pay the 3000 and and

680
00:24:05,774 --> 00:24:07,283
and, you know, be able to sit down,

681
00:24:07,521 --> 00:24:09,609
but you can't because it's such an exclusive

682
00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:11,750
kinda table to set ad. Right? And you're

683
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:13,580
not able to get those steaks just anywhere.

684
00:24:14,137 --> 00:24:16,286
So Rad poker really gave you the ability

685
00:24:16,286 --> 00:24:18,849
to win a seat and that was really,

686
00:24:19,087 --> 00:24:21,079
really cool. We hope to do that sometime

687
00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:23,866
in the future. Again, right now, we we're

688
00:24:23,866 --> 00:24:25,698
focused on a few different things we're obviously

689
00:24:25,698 --> 00:24:25,937
running.

690
00:24:26,668 --> 00:24:29,607
These kinda weekly and monthly cash cups we

691
00:24:29,607 --> 00:24:32,069
call them, and we're gonna be running a,

692
00:24:32,307 --> 00:24:34,213
weekly cash cup for Annie up Poker as

693
00:24:34,213 --> 00:24:36,938
well. So Right. That will be that will

694
00:24:36,938 --> 00:24:37,416
be awesome.

695
00:24:37,974 --> 00:24:39,251
And I'll tell you, I can tell you

696
00:24:39,251 --> 00:24:40,606
a little bit more about kind of what's

697
00:24:40,606 --> 00:24:42,201
what's on the road roadmap and what's what's

698
00:24:42,201 --> 00:24:44,768
coming down for... Yeah. Absolutely. Go ahead. Yeah.

699
00:24:45,086 --> 00:24:45,586
So

700
00:24:46,438 --> 00:24:47,733
we working on

701
00:24:48,664 --> 00:24:51,209
a guess... Some additional enhancements to the product,

702
00:24:51,448 --> 00:24:53,833
and 1 of them is the ability to

703
00:24:53,833 --> 00:24:54,333
play

704
00:24:54,803 --> 00:24:58,227
head to head matches for money. So the

705
00:24:58,227 --> 00:25:00,059
idea would be a Rad poker matches in

706
00:25:00,059 --> 00:25:01,116
particular. So

707
00:25:01,492 --> 00:25:02,607
2 people will queue up,

708
00:25:03,497 --> 00:25:05,642
Let's say it's a 10 dollar buy in,

709
00:25:06,357 --> 00:25:08,740
winner takes home 20 dollars, just a heads

710
00:25:08,740 --> 00:25:11,138
up match and rad poker. And you can

711
00:25:11,138 --> 00:25:13,463
play over and over again. And

712
00:25:14,074 --> 00:25:16,772
we have actually, in the past, we ran

713
00:25:16,772 --> 00:25:18,677
a beta version of this a little while

714
00:25:18,677 --> 00:25:18,836
back,

715
00:25:19,646 --> 00:25:20,146
and

716
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,829
we didn't have everything figured out as far

717
00:25:22,829 --> 00:25:24,739
as deposits and withdrawals and all that fun

718
00:25:24,739 --> 00:25:27,455
stuff. But now we do. And we have

719
00:25:27,455 --> 00:25:30,069
everything figured out, and we're really excited because

720
00:25:30,069 --> 00:25:32,605
in that beta version, we found a lot

721
00:25:32,605 --> 00:25:33,476
of success.

722
00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:35,803
We found a lot of people being like,

723
00:25:35,883 --> 00:25:38,116
well, this is really cool because I don't

724
00:25:38,116 --> 00:25:40,349
need to go drive to the casino or

725
00:25:40,349 --> 00:25:42,742
play on whatever website and play with a

726
00:25:42,742 --> 00:25:44,755
bunch of people. And it's gonna take me,

727
00:25:44,914 --> 00:25:47,315
you know, hours to try and win win

728
00:25:47,315 --> 00:25:49,154
some money. I can queue up.

729
00:25:49,715 --> 00:25:51,315
You're just good there be a 1 dollar

730
00:25:51,315 --> 00:25:53,321
game. There'll be 5 dollar game, a 20

731
00:25:53,321 --> 00:25:54,991
dollar game, a 50 dollar game, maybe in

732
00:25:54,991 --> 00:25:57,217
a hundred dollar game, and you can play.

733
00:25:57,852 --> 00:25:58,352
And

734
00:25:59,045 --> 00:26:00,953
it's u verse the other person for all

735
00:26:00,953 --> 00:26:03,518
the coins. So it'll be it'll be... I

736
00:26:03,518 --> 00:26:05,033
think it'll be really fun. I'm excited to

737
00:26:05,033 --> 00:26:07,506
roll that out in the upcoming months. Again,

738
00:26:07,585 --> 00:26:09,579
my attention on that 1. You like that

739
00:26:09,579 --> 00:26:10,376
tell you love that?

740
00:26:12,459 --> 00:26:12,959
So

741
00:26:13,412 --> 00:26:16,271
that's... Well, and and 1 of the things

742
00:26:16,271 --> 00:26:18,598
that I have really enjoyed

743
00:26:18,971 --> 00:26:20,163
about Rad poker is...

744
00:26:21,292 --> 00:26:23,765
You've you have these contests where it's not

745
00:26:23,765 --> 00:26:24,084
just...

746
00:26:24,722 --> 00:26:26,397
Oh, you can win. I mean, I can

747
00:26:26,557 --> 00:26:28,710
I can sit down in a in a

748
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:30,566
tournament, you know, online

749
00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:33,356
and you can play, you know, you can

750
00:26:33,356 --> 00:26:36,232
buy in for for 5 dollars for the

751
00:26:36,232 --> 00:26:37,031
chance to win,

752
00:26:38,722 --> 00:26:40,795
30 or whatever? You know what I mean?

753
00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:44,222
Yeah. And and you've got some payouts that

754
00:26:44,222 --> 00:26:47,585
are well worth your time Yeah. So yeah

755
00:26:47,983 --> 00:26:49,838
that's 1 of the things that I've really

756
00:26:49,896 --> 00:26:50,396
enjoyed

757
00:26:50,933 --> 00:26:51,433
about

758
00:26:51,889 --> 00:26:54,281
playing on the on the site too is

759
00:26:54,281 --> 00:26:54,440
that...

760
00:26:55,252 --> 00:26:56,923
You know, I feel like I'm playing for

761
00:26:56,923 --> 00:26:58,595
a for a price that's worth it.

762
00:26:59,470 --> 00:27:02,017
It sounds crazy to say for me, but

763
00:27:02,017 --> 00:27:04,405
we've given out over 200000 dollars in prize.

764
00:27:04,659 --> 00:27:07,770
Is since Since we started. And we're we're

765
00:27:07,770 --> 00:27:09,764
really excited to, you know, obviously grow the

766
00:27:09,764 --> 00:27:12,715
application. For all users that are coming on

767
00:27:12,715 --> 00:27:14,151
that are listening to this podcast.

768
00:27:15,043 --> 00:27:16,580
Rad poker will be free

769
00:27:16,957 --> 00:27:20,009
to to play completely free to play, and

770
00:27:20,307 --> 00:27:22,323
you'll get a a free 1 month

771
00:27:22,780 --> 00:27:25,910
subscription. So you'll go in you'll you'll subscribe

772
00:27:25,910 --> 00:27:27,690
and you can play in any of the

773
00:27:27,829 --> 00:27:29,269
any of the kind of the bigger tournaments.

774
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:32,470
Do they need... Do they need a code?

775
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:34,638
How's is that gonna work? No, open it

776
00:27:34,638 --> 00:27:35,671
up to everyone for this 1.

777
00:27:36,465 --> 00:27:38,529
Nice. But we're really

778
00:27:39,085 --> 00:27:41,547
we're excited about kind of getting more users

779
00:27:41,547 --> 00:27:43,947
on and and getting feedback and and really

780
00:27:43,947 --> 00:27:45,224
given this thing of a a swing.

781
00:27:46,022 --> 00:27:47,936
That is awesome. I I love that too.

782
00:27:48,575 --> 00:27:49,691
And then, of course,

783
00:27:50,824 --> 00:27:52,183
I mean, you and I have been talking

784
00:27:52,183 --> 00:27:54,260
for a while now we're trying to get

785
00:27:54,260 --> 00:27:54,500
this,

786
00:27:55,459 --> 00:27:57,238
any up tournament series

787
00:27:57,617 --> 00:27:59,715
in the works, which we plan to

788
00:28:00,425 --> 00:28:03,206
release and and let everybody play on soon.

789
00:28:03,604 --> 00:28:05,590
Yeah. So we're still got a few details

790
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:07,735
to work out on that, but but we're

791
00:28:07,735 --> 00:28:08,553
getting there

792
00:28:08,943 --> 00:28:09,762
And so

793
00:28:10,378 --> 00:28:11,096
I would say,

794
00:28:11,973 --> 00:28:14,286
right now, I mean, obviously, especially if you're

795
00:28:14,286 --> 00:28:16,917
gonna give them a month for free. Get

796
00:28:16,917 --> 00:28:18,866
on the go go register,

797
00:28:19,562 --> 00:28:21,952
get on there, use the site, get used

798
00:28:21,952 --> 00:28:22,590
to the site.

799
00:28:23,546 --> 00:28:26,189
That way, when that end up, tournament is

800
00:28:26,189 --> 00:28:27,461
ready. We release that.

801
00:28:28,336 --> 00:28:30,006
I mean, you're ready to go. You used

802
00:28:30,006 --> 00:28:31,039
to it and

803
00:28:31,517 --> 00:28:33,559
just jump in and and play. So

804
00:28:33,996 --> 00:28:35,266
that's that's incredible.

805
00:28:35,822 --> 00:28:37,172
I didn't even know that was coming. So,

806
00:28:38,204 --> 00:28:40,982
definitely. That's that's great. Or surprises over year.

807
00:28:44,253 --> 00:28:44,491
Well,

808
00:28:45,206 --> 00:28:46,556
what else what am I missing? What do

809
00:28:46,556 --> 00:28:47,985
you what else do you want the the

810
00:28:47,985 --> 00:28:50,306
listeners to know about? I want them to

811
00:28:50,306 --> 00:28:54,213
know that we're really committed to listening to

812
00:28:54,213 --> 00:28:57,003
user feedback. We're we're a big believer, and

813
00:28:57,003 --> 00:28:59,091
we've iterate reiterated the app. Location, the game

814
00:28:59,091 --> 00:29:01,562
board, the betting controls, we have an array

815
00:29:01,562 --> 00:29:03,555
of betting controls you can use. Right? And

816
00:29:03,555 --> 00:29:05,388
it's, you know, for heads up Poker, for

817
00:29:05,388 --> 00:29:06,106
fast paced like this.

818
00:29:06,916 --> 00:29:08,902
Everyone kinda wants their own, you know, is

819
00:29:08,902 --> 00:29:10,649
it pre? Is it pre filled, you know,

820
00:29:10,808 --> 00:29:13,270
bets? Is it something, you know, a, a

821
00:29:13,270 --> 00:29:14,382
slider you can toggle,

822
00:29:15,032 --> 00:29:17,120
So we we're constantly...

823
00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:20,351
We wanna, like, constantly be listening to our

824
00:29:20,351 --> 00:29:22,415
users for feedback, and we wanna make the

825
00:29:22,415 --> 00:29:24,190
app. Location as really as good as it

826
00:29:24,190 --> 00:29:25,570
can be. And

827
00:29:26,110 --> 00:29:28,430
that's that's really our commitment. We, you know,

828
00:29:28,670 --> 00:29:30,205
our... Like I said, our next you know,

829
00:29:30,365 --> 00:29:32,605
kind of initiative is is running these heads

830
00:29:32,605 --> 00:29:34,445
up matches for real money where you can

831
00:29:34,445 --> 00:29:36,285
play, and that was just based on user

832
00:29:36,285 --> 00:29:37,485
feedback. We did a beta test.

833
00:29:38,205 --> 00:29:40,612
Our users really liked it. And we wanna

834
00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:42,438
roll that out. So where it'll have contests.

835
00:29:42,835 --> 00:29:44,978
We'll have these heads up matches. We have

836
00:29:44,978 --> 00:29:46,645
a poker training tool on there that we

837
00:29:46,645 --> 00:29:48,232
built, called Puzzle rush,

838
00:29:48,803 --> 00:29:51,497
So it's it's almost like, similar to, I

839
00:29:51,497 --> 00:29:53,479
don't even know how to describe it, but,

840
00:29:53,716 --> 00:29:55,539
you know, we've always I've always thought that,

841
00:29:55,698 --> 00:29:57,306
you know, 1 of... Some of the best

842
00:29:57,306 --> 00:29:58,205
poker players

843
00:29:58,662 --> 00:30:00,337
are able to sit down at a table,

844
00:30:00,815 --> 00:30:02,969
and they can they can look at their

845
00:30:02,969 --> 00:30:05,122
cards, they can look at their board, and

846
00:30:05,122 --> 00:30:05,782
they know

847
00:30:06,414 --> 00:30:06,914
immediately

848
00:30:07,611 --> 00:30:09,847
what the best hand? What's the best hand

849
00:30:09,847 --> 00:30:11,603
that's gonna beat me? Right? Do I have

850
00:30:11,603 --> 00:30:13,838
the nuts or not? Or what could that

851
00:30:13,838 --> 00:30:15,456
person have across the table

852
00:30:15,848 --> 00:30:18,475
that could beat me. And so that is

853
00:30:18,475 --> 00:30:20,227
kinda what Puzzle rush is all about,

854
00:30:20,943 --> 00:30:21,443
and

855
00:30:22,137 --> 00:30:23,490
you should try it out. It's really cool.

856
00:30:23,983 --> 00:30:25,579
I was gonna say, I I've... I meant

857
00:30:25,579 --> 00:30:28,609
to mention that actually, because, I do. Whenever,

858
00:30:29,965 --> 00:30:31,321
on the app, and I know I don't

859
00:30:31,321 --> 00:30:33,475
have time to sit down for a game

860
00:30:33,475 --> 00:30:36,031
yet. Or or whatever then then I do

861
00:30:36,031 --> 00:30:37,325
get in there and and

862
00:30:37,698 --> 00:30:40,239
and run through and seeing just how many

863
00:30:40,397 --> 00:30:41,906
I can get right in the time allotted

864
00:30:41,906 --> 00:30:43,613
it. I I love it it gets

865
00:30:43,991 --> 00:30:46,782
it gets tricky. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And I

866
00:30:46,782 --> 00:30:49,255
think you start out with, like, 3 cards.

867
00:30:49,494 --> 00:30:52,126
Yes. And then it'll... You're... The board will

868
00:30:52,126 --> 00:30:54,610
grow and. So... Just like a whole game.

869
00:30:54,929 --> 00:30:56,520
Right? Sure. It's cool.

870
00:30:57,476 --> 00:30:59,886
Yeah. I love it. And so

871
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:02,507
yeah Again, everybody check it out,

872
00:31:03,543 --> 00:31:05,695
it... It's apparently it it's gonna be free

873
00:31:05,695 --> 00:31:07,687
for you to check out. So so jump

874
00:31:07,687 --> 00:31:10,490
on there get registered, and and

875
00:31:11,127 --> 00:31:12,880
I'll be on there, so I look forward

876
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,198
to,

877
00:31:13,915 --> 00:31:14,871
playing with you guys.

878
00:31:15,508 --> 00:31:17,340
Sean, and I I really appreciate you joining

879
00:31:17,340 --> 00:31:17,420
us.

880
00:31:18,629 --> 00:31:20,143
Thanks so much, for having me. We'll, keep

881
00:31:20,143 --> 00:31:21,975
in touch. I've... You know, we've got a

882
00:31:21,975 --> 00:31:22,612
lot going on.

883
00:31:23,568 --> 00:31:25,320
We'll talk again soon. Awesome. Thanks so much,

884
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,356
joe. Have a great rest of your day.

885
00:31:26,515 --> 00:31:27,484
Yep You too.

886
00:31:31,536 --> 00:31:33,546
Gal one's s from call to floor

887
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,214
with Elliott Sc

888
00:31:39,497 --> 00:31:41,325
Elliott Sc joins us each week to say

889
00:31:41,325 --> 00:31:43,073
how he would rule on situations that come

890
00:31:43,073 --> 00:31:44,106
up in your games.

891
00:31:45,158 --> 00:31:47,233
And that's exactly what he's doing. Again, this

892
00:31:47,233 --> 00:31:49,469
week, Elliott how's it going? Things are going

893
00:31:49,469 --> 00:31:50,107
pretty well. Thanks.

894
00:31:51,704 --> 00:31:52,821
Glad to be back home. How are you

895
00:31:52,821 --> 00:31:53,300
doing today?

896
00:31:53,954 --> 00:31:55,868
I'm doing well. I'm doing well. So you

897
00:31:56,506 --> 00:31:58,181
you just... You said you just got back

898
00:31:58,181 --> 00:32:01,053
home from Vegas. Right? Yes. I was attending

899
00:32:01,053 --> 00:32:01,372
the,

900
00:32:02,329 --> 00:32:03,068
bi annual

901
00:32:04,811 --> 00:32:06,398
tournament Director Association gather,

902
00:32:07,112 --> 00:32:09,730
where we discuss the rules and any updates

903
00:32:09,730 --> 00:32:10,944
that are needed and

904
00:32:11,254 --> 00:32:12,767
try to come to a consensus so that

905
00:32:12,767 --> 00:32:14,223
we can standardize

906
00:32:15,077 --> 00:32:16,830
the rules and and make sure the player

907
00:32:16,830 --> 00:32:19,315
experience is much better. So that they get

908
00:32:19,315 --> 00:32:21,647
the same experience as far as tournaments

909
00:32:22,661 --> 00:32:23,299
anywhere they play.

910
00:32:24,096 --> 00:32:25,291
Were there any that stuck at to you?

911
00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:27,203
I watched it I watched it on Youtube,

912
00:32:27,522 --> 00:32:29,373
they were life's treatment on Youtube. And...

913
00:32:30,892 --> 00:32:32,330
There were a couple of them that stood

914
00:32:32,330 --> 00:32:34,808
out to me, but were there any that

915
00:32:34,808 --> 00:32:37,445
that you thought were incredibly interesting this year.

916
00:32:38,099 --> 00:32:39,296
Well, first and foremost,

917
00:32:40,731 --> 00:32:42,188
there is finally a consensus

918
00:32:42,805 --> 00:32:45,596
on big blind annie. Okay. There was certain...

919
00:32:45,756 --> 00:32:47,112
This has been brought up several times.

920
00:32:48,723 --> 00:32:51,436
It's been recommended that the Annie goes first.

921
00:32:52,314 --> 00:32:53,830
That's the way it was in the rules,

922
00:32:54,628 --> 00:32:55,665
of, the world series,

923
00:32:56,718 --> 00:32:58,892
several other tours across the world

924
00:32:59,429 --> 00:33:00,625
in various locals.

925
00:33:02,458 --> 00:33:03,894
Did not go any first. They made a

926
00:33:03,894 --> 00:33:04,531
big blind first.

927
00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:07,254
There were good reasons for both.

928
00:33:09,005 --> 00:33:10,676
I was an anti first advocate,

929
00:33:11,870 --> 00:33:14,178
not merely because the word anti is Latin

930
00:33:14,178 --> 00:33:14,736
for before.

931
00:33:17,459 --> 00:33:18,255
But because,

932
00:33:19,928 --> 00:33:21,840
when everybody was for themselves,

933
00:33:22,398 --> 00:33:23,593
it was before the action.

934
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:26,734
When we combine the anti

935
00:33:27,347 --> 00:33:28,222
to 1 person,

936
00:33:29,972 --> 00:33:31,245
we did it out of convenience.

937
00:33:31,896 --> 00:33:33,327
We didn't do it to change the order

938
00:33:33,327 --> 00:33:35,019
of betting and how money is actually

939
00:33:35,632 --> 00:33:36,745
put into the pot and how a pot

940
00:33:36,745 --> 00:33:37,460
is constructed.

941
00:33:38,573 --> 00:33:41,051
It was a shared responsibility that is expressed

942
00:33:41,051 --> 00:33:43,114
through 1 person putting chips in the pot.

943
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:45,971
It still represents all 8 or 9 players

944
00:33:45,971 --> 00:33:47,399
at the table, putting chips in the pot.

945
00:33:48,049 --> 00:33:49,644
But it's only done by 1 person and

946
00:33:49,644 --> 00:33:52,037
it's done before the pod is created in

947
00:33:52,037 --> 00:33:52,755
the action starts.

948
00:33:53,792 --> 00:33:55,169
It's a shared responsibility.

949
00:33:56,105 --> 00:33:57,541
For 8 hands, your opponents,

950
00:33:58,114 --> 00:33:59,712
are putting your anti in for you.

951
00:34:00,351 --> 00:34:02,429
And on the ninth hand, you're putting in

952
00:34:02,429 --> 00:34:05,006
the anti for everybody else to repay that

953
00:34:05,225 --> 00:34:08,256
obligation. It's very reciprocal. It's fair. And of

954
00:34:08,256 --> 00:34:10,713
course, the number 1 complaint was that players

955
00:34:10,713 --> 00:34:13,092
just weren't paying attention, not getting the anti

956
00:34:13,092 --> 00:34:15,500
up Taylor are constantly harassing players in begging

957
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:16,139
for the auntie.

958
00:34:17,177 --> 00:34:18,773
There'd be a short occasionally.

959
00:34:20,210 --> 00:34:22,046
There was a lot downside to the individual

960
00:34:22,126 --> 00:34:22,445
Anti.

961
00:34:23,656 --> 00:34:24,532
In live poker.

962
00:34:25,169 --> 00:34:27,557
Obviously, in online poker, there's no need for

963
00:34:27,557 --> 00:34:29,309
a big blind annie, everybody can any from

964
00:34:29,309 --> 00:34:30,981
themselves. It's automatic. Right.

965
00:34:32,503 --> 00:34:33,931
So there was a lot of begging to

966
00:34:33,931 --> 00:34:36,311
make it much more streamline.

967
00:34:37,025 --> 00:34:37,525
And

968
00:34:38,468 --> 00:34:40,456
less labor intensive so that, you know, people

969
00:34:40,456 --> 00:34:41,251
could actually play poker.

970
00:34:42,364 --> 00:34:43,238
All well and good.

971
00:34:43,953 --> 00:34:45,248
Then it breaks down to

972
00:34:45,782 --> 00:34:47,452
how it goes. Any first big blind first.

973
00:34:48,661 --> 00:34:50,254
People with short stacks. We're complaining

974
00:34:50,811 --> 00:34:52,404
now I can't get action on my chips.

975
00:34:54,316 --> 00:34:55,750
Yeah. But everybody else put up there andy.

976
00:34:55,989 --> 00:34:58,237
That's more important. Than your ability to get

977
00:34:58,237 --> 00:34:59,114
action on your short stack.

978
00:34:59,833 --> 00:35:01,690
We don't consider stack size

979
00:35:02,068 --> 00:35:04,382
when the blinds and annie are posted. They

980
00:35:04,382 --> 00:35:05,101
are what they are.

981
00:35:06,554 --> 00:35:07,054
So

982
00:35:07,592 --> 00:35:09,270
it's only fair that you put up your

983
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:09,989
opponent's auntie,

984
00:35:11,188 --> 00:35:12,786
before you get action on your chips because

985
00:35:12,786 --> 00:35:13,985
they did the same thing for you.

986
00:35:15,596 --> 00:35:16,632
It's kind of the golden rule.

987
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:18,089
But

988
00:35:18,546 --> 00:35:20,141
there were too many players in too many

989
00:35:20,141 --> 00:35:22,374
years and the world series obviously being the

990
00:35:22,374 --> 00:35:25,016
elephant in the room, and several other tours

991
00:35:25,016 --> 00:35:26,288
of of reputable size.

992
00:35:28,910 --> 00:35:30,499
Just gave in and made a big blind

993
00:35:30,499 --> 00:35:30,737
first,

994
00:35:31,389 --> 00:35:32,980
they were sick of hearing the complaints of

995
00:35:32,980 --> 00:35:35,208
people not getting enough action on it in

996
00:35:35,208 --> 00:35:37,675
the small stacks they had when it was

997
00:35:37,675 --> 00:35:39,664
time to actually pay the andy and the

998
00:35:39,664 --> 00:35:39,902
blind.

999
00:35:40,873 --> 00:35:43,744
And again, I have little sympathy towards short

1000
00:35:43,744 --> 00:35:45,579
stacks. If you want a bigger stack, play

1001
00:35:45,579 --> 00:35:47,733
faster, play better, don't be short stacked.

1002
00:35:48,929 --> 00:35:50,285
All well and good and in tournaments,

1003
00:35:50,858 --> 00:35:52,214
probably the best advice you'll ever get.

1004
00:35:53,490 --> 00:35:53,990
So

1005
00:35:55,166 --> 00:35:57,000
we finally came to a consensus, Those of

1006
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,052
us who were anti first advocates have finally

1007
00:36:01,724 --> 00:36:03,565
thrown in our lot with the big blind

1008
00:36:03,565 --> 00:36:05,825
first advocates, and it now it's a uniform

1009
00:36:06,445 --> 00:36:07,345
rule procedure

1010
00:36:07,724 --> 00:36:10,361
recommendation big blind is first in big blind

1011
00:36:10,361 --> 00:36:13,218
annie situations. I did see where Matt Savage

1012
00:36:13,218 --> 00:36:13,956
had posted

1013
00:36:14,488 --> 00:36:16,337
about that, he beg regret.

1014
00:36:16,963 --> 00:36:17,463
Was

1015
00:36:18,155 --> 00:36:19,664
giving way to that as well.

1016
00:36:20,777 --> 00:36:24,273
But it is, I guess, majority rules kinda

1017
00:36:24,273 --> 00:36:25,250
situation. Well

1018
00:36:25,798 --> 00:36:27,633
for Td, it's super majority rules.

1019
00:36:28,431 --> 00:36:30,367
We... Yeah. We don't adopt anything

1020
00:36:31,063 --> 00:36:33,318
unless it's got an 80 percent

1021
00:36:34,094 --> 00:36:34,833
or more

1022
00:36:35,783 --> 00:36:36,740
proponents rate.

1023
00:36:37,536 --> 00:36:39,369
So if something's 50 50 or 60 40,

1024
00:36:39,529 --> 00:36:40,029
we're

1025
00:36:40,485 --> 00:36:42,000
we're not going to adopt it. It has

1026
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,137
to be consensus

1027
00:36:43,609 --> 00:36:45,045
80 percent have to be in favor of

1028
00:36:45,045 --> 00:36:46,001
it and the other 20.

1029
00:36:47,118 --> 00:36:48,713
Even then, they're still pulled to make sure

1030
00:36:48,713 --> 00:36:50,389
they can live with it. And I can

1031
00:36:50,389 --> 00:36:51,744
live with it. I I... At the end

1032
00:36:51,744 --> 00:36:53,315
of the day, it it's not gonna

1033
00:36:53,994 --> 00:36:54,494
truly

1034
00:36:54,954 --> 00:36:55,454
affect

1035
00:36:55,994 --> 00:36:57,835
of me or any of the game's I

1036
00:36:57,835 --> 00:36:57,994
spread,

1037
00:36:58,954 --> 00:37:00,315
and I don't think it'll affect too many

1038
00:37:00,315 --> 00:37:01,194
other places either.

1039
00:37:01,927 --> 00:37:03,200
It does change the nature of the game.

1040
00:37:03,439 --> 00:37:04,713
I mean, now the ant is is less

1041
00:37:04,713 --> 00:37:06,065
than play on from short stacks.

1042
00:37:07,418 --> 00:37:10,059
Which is not entirely fair. Now a short

1043
00:37:10,059 --> 00:37:12,207
is getting a hundred percent action on whatever

1044
00:37:12,207 --> 00:37:13,241
a few chips he has left,

1045
00:37:14,116 --> 00:37:15,389
which is not the way the game is

1046
00:37:15,389 --> 00:37:15,548
designed.

1047
00:37:16,359 --> 00:37:17,957
If it was individual ant and you were

1048
00:37:17,957 --> 00:37:19,475
all in for the amount of the anthony,

1049
00:37:19,715 --> 00:37:22,432
you can win the ant. Right. Well, that

1050
00:37:22,432 --> 00:37:24,764
same state of being should exist. When 1

1051
00:37:24,764 --> 00:37:26,362
person is putting in from the entire table.

1052
00:37:27,081 --> 00:37:27,321
Well,

1053
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:30,358
the big boys we're not gonna change, that

1054
00:37:30,358 --> 00:37:30,757
includes,

1055
00:37:31,796 --> 00:37:32,296
Ep,

1056
00:37:33,407 --> 00:37:35,948
or Ap and and and some of the

1057
00:37:35,948 --> 00:37:36,742
other big tours.

1058
00:37:37,456 --> 00:37:37,956
So

1059
00:37:39,123 --> 00:37:40,496
at some point, you got a

1060
00:37:41,044 --> 00:37:42,956
go along to get along, and and I'm

1061
00:37:42,956 --> 00:37:44,549
fine with it. Yeah. Well,

1062
00:37:45,266 --> 00:37:46,779
I I don't wanna get too bogged down

1063
00:37:46,779 --> 00:37:47,974
in all of this, but 1 of the

1064
00:37:47,974 --> 00:37:50,616
things that I did notice... You know, when

1065
00:37:50,775 --> 00:37:52,705
I was watching it was

1066
00:37:54,112 --> 00:37:56,495
there was a pretty overwhelming theme, which is

1067
00:37:56,495 --> 00:37:58,581
1 that, you comes up on call the

1068
00:37:58,581 --> 00:38:00,598
floor quite a bit, which is player responsibility.

1069
00:38:01,215 --> 00:38:01,375
Right.

1070
00:38:02,572 --> 00:38:05,685
And that seemed to to carry on over,

1071
00:38:06,099 --> 00:38:08,496
a lot of the rulings that that were

1072
00:38:08,496 --> 00:38:09,934
discussed. Right? So... Boom,

1073
00:38:11,053 --> 00:38:13,231
almost every rule exists because

1074
00:38:14,261 --> 00:38:17,523
someone's intention was not clear. We just gotta

1075
00:38:17,523 --> 00:38:19,750
we gotta solve puzzles. We got un unsigned

1076
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:19,829
not.

1077
00:38:20,625 --> 00:38:21,978
And we have to settle disputes.

1078
00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:24,538
And most disputes are obviously,

1079
00:38:26,050 --> 00:38:29,233
caused by obviously, incomplete information. Right. Well.

1080
00:38:29,884 --> 00:38:32,032
The only incomplete information we're generally getting is

1081
00:38:32,032 --> 00:38:33,169
the fact that the player

1082
00:38:33,703 --> 00:38:36,170
is not letting us in on what they're

1083
00:38:36,170 --> 00:38:37,841
trying to do when they are actually trying

1084
00:38:37,841 --> 00:38:38,239
to do it.

1085
00:38:39,369 --> 00:38:42,980
Right? II1 of the ones that... This exactly

1086
00:38:43,277 --> 00:38:46,308
to your point that I enjoyed the discussion

1087
00:38:46,308 --> 00:38:47,047
about was

1088
00:38:47,425 --> 00:38:48,563
whether the dealers

1089
00:38:49,513 --> 00:38:50,811
should be announcing

1090
00:38:51,188 --> 00:38:53,044
what the raises are. And

1091
00:38:54,059 --> 00:38:56,213
wanna... I don't remember the woman's name that

1092
00:38:56,213 --> 00:38:58,547
was talking, but she said that the playground

1093
00:38:59,577 --> 00:39:03,473
they actually announced the raises in English and

1094
00:39:03,632 --> 00:39:03,950
French.

1095
00:39:04,745 --> 00:39:04,984
Yes.

1096
00:39:05,938 --> 00:39:07,847
She's a very active participant and is very

1097
00:39:07,847 --> 00:39:08,801
passionate about the rules.

1098
00:39:09,929 --> 00:39:10,429
And

1099
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,061
cares about the game. You she she wants

1100
00:39:14,061 --> 00:39:16,446
to make sure that everything square, she wants

1101
00:39:16,446 --> 00:39:17,559
to make sure that everything's fair.

1102
00:39:18,927 --> 00:39:20,065
Yes. And she

1103
00:39:20,523 --> 00:39:22,597
plays a lot in in Quebec province at

1104
00:39:22,597 --> 00:39:24,532
the playground a lot. And

1105
00:39:25,149 --> 00:39:26,526
Quebec being a very bilingual,

1106
00:39:27,621 --> 00:39:28,121
district

1107
00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:29,067
jurisdiction,

1108
00:39:30,097 --> 00:39:32,079
everything's gotta be done in both languages, french

1109
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:32,475
and English.

1110
00:39:33,347 --> 00:39:35,328
And you cannot favor 1 over the other.

1111
00:39:35,566 --> 00:39:35,699
And

1112
00:39:36,375 --> 00:39:36,931
So, yeah,

1113
00:39:38,043 --> 00:39:38,837
every dealer there,

1114
00:39:40,028 --> 00:39:41,775
must make every announcement in French and English,

1115
00:39:42,331 --> 00:39:43,523
every time they make an announcement.

1116
00:39:45,529 --> 00:39:47,362
That was adopted as a rule, and now

1117
00:39:47,522 --> 00:39:48,956
I think we're finally gonna cement it,

1118
00:39:49,833 --> 00:39:51,667
the announcing of actual bet sizes.

1119
00:39:53,518 --> 00:39:54,477
In no limit games,

1120
00:39:55,516 --> 00:39:56,635
it can only be better for the game.

1121
00:39:56,795 --> 00:39:57,994
When you're playing online, you get all the

1122
00:39:57,994 --> 00:40:00,152
numbers in front of you. Yeah. And when

1123
00:40:00,152 --> 00:40:01,031
you're playing live,

1124
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,310
we need to do that too. I I

1125
00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:06,456
fully see the need for it. We don't

1126
00:40:06,456 --> 00:40:08,442
need to give players more opportunities to make

1127
00:40:08,442 --> 00:40:11,160
errors. We don't need to provide more opportunities

1128
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,965
for more disputes to occur. We don't need

1129
00:40:14,022 --> 00:40:15,293
more decisions to be made.

1130
00:40:16,407 --> 00:40:16,907
Clarity

1131
00:40:18,155 --> 00:40:18,894
can only

1132
00:40:19,364 --> 00:40:20,262
help the players

1133
00:40:20,799 --> 00:40:22,554
and the Td, of course.

1134
00:40:24,389 --> 00:40:26,303
Expedition of the game is pretty important, And

1135
00:40:26,303 --> 00:40:27,499
this is basic information.

1136
00:40:29,743 --> 00:40:30,481
We're not

1137
00:40:30,852 --> 00:40:32,278
trying to hide anything.

1138
00:40:33,071 --> 00:40:33,571
And

1139
00:40:33,942 --> 00:40:35,130
the bet in front of you is still

1140
00:40:35,130 --> 00:40:36,811
the bet in front of you. Let's put

1141
00:40:36,811 --> 00:40:38,559
a number on it and and move on

1142
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:39,457
and make things

1143
00:40:40,308 --> 00:40:41,818
nicer, happier and faster.

1144
00:40:42,454 --> 00:40:44,918
Yeah. Yeah. 1 of the comments there was

1145
00:40:44,918 --> 00:40:47,076
that... You know, it all it always happens.

1146
00:40:47,234 --> 00:40:49,771
Somebody waits 30 seconds staring at a raise

1147
00:40:49,771 --> 00:40:52,466
out there. And then they're like, how much

1148
00:40:52,466 --> 00:40:54,703
is that? Which as if they were renewed

1149
00:40:54,703 --> 00:40:56,289
that information to process anything.

1150
00:40:58,194 --> 00:40:58,694
Yeah

1151
00:41:00,988 --> 00:41:02,584
If if you were then what were you

1152
00:41:02,584 --> 00:41:04,738
doing for 30 seconds. Like... Right.

1153
00:41:05,536 --> 00:41:07,631
And that ties into the other thing. And

1154
00:41:07,944 --> 00:41:10,359
they didn't adopt widespread yet

1155
00:41:10,977 --> 00:41:12,573
because a lot of tournaments don't need it,

1156
00:41:13,610 --> 00:41:14,110
but

1157
00:41:14,568 --> 00:41:15,366
it was certainly...

1158
00:41:16,339 --> 00:41:16,818
Discuss that,

1159
00:41:18,177 --> 00:41:19,316
more action clocks

1160
00:41:20,014 --> 00:41:22,091
need to be used in more situations.

1161
00:41:22,970 --> 00:41:25,782
And I'm fully on board with that. 100

1162
00:41:25,782 --> 00:41:26,022
percent.

1163
00:41:26,981 --> 00:41:30,578
It's about time. Yeah. I 100 percent. I

1164
00:41:30,578 --> 00:41:32,975
mean, now that we've got tablets on every

1165
00:41:32,975 --> 00:41:33,295
table,

1166
00:41:34,186 --> 00:41:36,039
It's time to push out an action clock

1167
00:41:36,652 --> 00:41:37,948
to that table

1168
00:41:38,402 --> 00:41:41,369
for tournaments, not just the countdown clock for

1169
00:41:41,505 --> 00:41:42,061
clock calls.

1170
00:41:42,954 --> 00:41:45,431
Player versus player. And we're talking... It's on

1171
00:41:45,431 --> 00:41:48,009
you. Right. You've got this long to decide

1172
00:41:48,548 --> 00:41:51,026
turns red. I'll need your cards. It's time

1173
00:41:51,026 --> 00:41:52,005
for that to happen

1174
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,320
you don't get unlimited time online. You don't

1175
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,360
get unlimited time,

1176
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,960
even in in tournaments without a clock. It's

1177
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,619
time to

1178
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,090
cement it. And it needs to be graduated,

1179
00:42:02,249 --> 00:42:03,605
I... We don't need the same clock in

1180
00:42:03,605 --> 00:42:04,322
every situation,

1181
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,315
that's true too. I mean,

1182
00:42:07,112 --> 00:42:09,026
if you're using an average 30 second clock.

1183
00:42:10,554 --> 00:42:10,792
Well,

1184
00:42:11,985 --> 00:42:13,815
I mean, it it can go up or

1185
00:42:13,815 --> 00:42:14,315
down

1186
00:42:15,486 --> 00:42:16,441
based on the betting round.

1187
00:42:17,332 --> 00:42:19,484
That's all re. But right now, let's just

1188
00:42:19,484 --> 00:42:19,963
have a clock.

1189
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,774
Let's just get it into. Yeah. Let's start

1190
00:42:23,231 --> 00:42:24,505
let's start there. That's true.

1191
00:42:27,470 --> 00:42:30,579
Well, I've the whole thing is fascinating. I

1192
00:42:30,579 --> 00:42:32,572
really enjoyed the talk. If if anybody wants

1193
00:42:32,572 --> 00:42:34,497
to look it up. I believe you can

1194
00:42:34,497 --> 00:42:36,802
still find it on Youtube, you know, just

1195
00:42:36,802 --> 00:42:37,540
type in

1196
00:42:38,153 --> 00:42:38,630
Td,

1197
00:42:39,186 --> 00:42:40,617
and you should be able to find it.

1198
00:42:41,585 --> 00:42:43,409
But we do we do have a call

1199
00:42:43,409 --> 00:42:45,099
the floor this week that's

1200
00:42:45,472 --> 00:42:48,884
is sent in by Marvin h.

1201
00:42:50,015 --> 00:42:50,414
Little Marvin.

1202
00:42:50,974 --> 00:42:51,474
And

1203
00:42:52,175 --> 00:42:53,795
he is actually a

1204
00:42:54,094 --> 00:42:57,054
tournament director. Okay. Fellow colleague. Thanks for calling.

1205
00:42:58,347 --> 00:43:00,103
He had this situation that came up in

1206
00:43:00,103 --> 00:43:03,215
a multi table tournament and just wanted to

1207
00:43:03,215 --> 00:43:05,072
get your feedback on it. So

1208
00:43:06,025 --> 00:43:08,905
The breakdown is seat 5 is the small

1209
00:43:08,905 --> 00:43:10,364
blind for 2000

1210
00:43:10,744 --> 00:43:13,704
seat 6 is the big blind for 4000.

1211
00:43:14,357 --> 00:43:17,219
Seat 8 under the gun plus 1. He

1212
00:43:17,219 --> 00:43:20,639
silently raises to 10 k. So he toss

1213
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:21,139
out

1214
00:43:21,672 --> 00:43:23,103
25K

1215
00:43:23,103 --> 00:43:23,342
chips.

1216
00:43:25,033 --> 00:43:26,791
It folds around AC3,

1217
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:30,465
who toss out 41K

1218
00:43:30,465 --> 00:43:30,785
chips.

1219
00:43:31,676 --> 00:43:33,739
Seat 4 tells the player that c 8

1220
00:43:33,739 --> 00:43:34,215
raised.

1221
00:43:35,643 --> 00:43:37,468
So then seat 3 says, well, then I

1222
00:43:37,468 --> 00:43:38,182
wanna go all in.

1223
00:43:38,992 --> 00:43:41,060
That's when they call in the the floor,

1224
00:43:42,412 --> 00:43:44,560
the dealer admits that they didn't see the

1225
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,356
re the raise.

1226
00:43:46,087 --> 00:43:48,314
Told player in seat 3 that it was

1227
00:43:48,314 --> 00:43:50,780
4 k to call. So the dealer told

1228
00:43:50,780 --> 00:43:51,814
him wrong information.

1229
00:43:53,101 --> 00:43:55,720
No 1 at the table offers varying opinions

1230
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,181
on this. Several players of mark that they

1231
00:43:58,181 --> 00:44:00,380
didn't realize that there was a raise either

1232
00:44:00,976 --> 00:44:02,883
So in this situation,

1233
00:44:03,757 --> 00:44:05,903
they ruled that the player in seat 3

1234
00:44:05,903 --> 00:44:08,025
had all of their options available to them

1235
00:44:08,223 --> 00:44:10,052
Okay. Based on the fact that the dealer

1236
00:44:10,052 --> 00:44:11,722
gave them incorrect information,

1237
00:44:12,437 --> 00:44:15,300
and didn't announce race. And he says that

1238
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:15,777
had the dealer...

1239
00:44:16,668 --> 00:44:19,460
Not said anything, I believe my call would

1240
00:44:19,460 --> 00:44:20,179
have been different.

1241
00:44:21,136 --> 00:44:21,796
I probably

1242
00:44:22,413 --> 00:44:24,901
would have only let the player continue to

1243
00:44:24,901 --> 00:44:27,216
call or fold and sacrifice the 4 k.

1244
00:44:27,854 --> 00:44:30,408
Right. What are your thoughts elliot. Well, my

1245
00:44:30,408 --> 00:44:31,605
thoughts are along in the same lines.

1246
00:44:32,577 --> 00:44:34,407
I'm certainly aware of the obligation of players

1247
00:44:34,407 --> 00:44:36,260
to pay attention. I'm certainly

1248
00:44:36,874 --> 00:44:39,102
aware of a poker being a visual game

1249
00:44:39,102 --> 00:44:40,853
and the players are are playing it, not

1250
00:44:40,853 --> 00:44:41,331
the dealer.

1251
00:44:42,459 --> 00:44:43,891
They're supposed to know what's happening.

1252
00:44:44,766 --> 00:44:45,959
We don't live in a perfect world.

1253
00:44:46,755 --> 00:44:48,107
Sometimes you just don't see things.

1254
00:44:48,838 --> 00:44:50,428
Obviously, the player didn't wanna be noticed when

1255
00:44:50,428 --> 00:44:52,019
he raised and he very quietly put in

1256
00:44:52,019 --> 00:44:53,689
his his 25K shifts.

1257
00:44:54,484 --> 00:44:54,984
And

1258
00:44:55,677 --> 00:44:57,505
on a side note, it it it occurs

1259
00:44:57,505 --> 00:44:58,324
to me that

1260
00:44:58,872 --> 00:45:00,859
a good many of the people who who

1261
00:45:00,859 --> 00:45:01,598
bet silently

1262
00:45:02,131 --> 00:45:03,721
and in a way that's not noticeable.

1263
00:45:04,833 --> 00:45:06,503
Generally, our chatter boxes and it won't shut

1264
00:45:06,503 --> 00:45:07,456
up when it's not their turn.

1265
00:45:09,308 --> 00:45:09,787
It's true.

1266
00:45:10,986 --> 00:45:11,626
Back to the game.

1267
00:45:12,585 --> 00:45:13,324
The rule

1268
00:45:13,863 --> 00:45:14,822
is fairly clear.

1269
00:45:15,701 --> 00:45:16,900
Td and currently,

1270
00:45:17,394 --> 00:45:18,751
rule number 51,

1271
00:45:19,390 --> 00:45:21,785
binding declarations slash under calls in turn,

1272
00:45:23,142 --> 00:45:23,541
part b,

1273
00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:26,415
player under calls by declaring or pushing out

1274
00:45:26,415 --> 00:45:28,902
less than the call amount without first declaring

1275
00:45:28,902 --> 00:45:31,694
call. An under call is mandatory full call

1276
00:45:31,694 --> 00:45:34,246
if in turn, if made in turn, facing

1277
00:45:34,246 --> 00:45:36,081
1, any bed heads up, which this was

1278
00:45:36,081 --> 00:45:38,574
not. Number 2, the opening bed on any

1279
00:45:38,574 --> 00:45:40,655
round multi way, which was was not. This

1280
00:45:40,655 --> 00:45:42,255
was a raise of the blinds therefore not

1281
00:45:42,255 --> 00:45:42,894
the opening bed.

1282
00:45:43,534 --> 00:45:44,655
In other situations,

1283
00:45:45,229 --> 00:45:46,896
tournament director's discretion applies.

1284
00:45:48,166 --> 00:45:50,229
That's pretty wide open. The opening bed is

1285
00:45:50,229 --> 00:45:51,999
the first chip of each betting round and

1286
00:45:52,134 --> 00:45:53,642
certainly not a check. Well,

1287
00:45:54,213 --> 00:45:56,039
and being blind games, the post big blind

1288
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:57,810
is the pre flop opener. This was

1289
00:45:58,342 --> 00:46:00,804
an opener not the blind. This rule governs

1290
00:46:00,804 --> 00:46:02,630
when players must make a full call and

1291
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:05,911
win at tournament director's discretion, they may forfeit

1292
00:46:05,911 --> 00:46:07,585
the amount of the attendant under call unfold.

1293
00:46:08,063 --> 00:46:10,694
So I don't mind the full discretion on

1294
00:46:10,694 --> 00:46:11,092
the wage.

1295
00:46:12,465 --> 00:46:14,224
Certainly, the dealer needs to be paying attention.

1296
00:46:15,025 --> 00:46:15,905
More than the players.

1297
00:46:16,625 --> 00:46:19,344
There's more players and 1 dealer. Therefore, the

1298
00:46:19,344 --> 00:46:19,905
dealer has...

1299
00:46:20,478 --> 00:46:21,991
To pay attention to more people and more

1300
00:46:21,991 --> 00:46:23,981
things and should be up on the action.

1301
00:46:24,379 --> 00:46:25,652
All bets need to be announced.

1302
00:46:26,289 --> 00:46:28,199
All raises need to be announced. And now

1303
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:29,791
their amounts need to be announced.

1304
00:46:30,362 --> 00:46:30,919
So again,

1305
00:46:31,634 --> 00:46:33,246
the dealer shrinking this responsibility,

1306
00:46:34,335 --> 00:46:35,923
makes it harder to play the game in

1307
00:46:35,923 --> 00:46:36,400
some spots.

1308
00:46:37,194 --> 00:46:38,148
Certainly in in seats.

1309
00:46:38,799 --> 00:46:40,155
1 in 9 where it's hard to see

1310
00:46:40,155 --> 00:46:43,048
the action across the table. Right? And now

1311
00:46:44,143 --> 00:46:46,855
the re emergence of the of the cutout

1312
00:46:46,855 --> 00:46:48,131
poker table is coming back.

1313
00:46:48,864 --> 00:46:49,523
Which is

1314
00:46:50,858 --> 00:46:51,735
e me no end.

1315
00:46:53,011 --> 00:46:54,309
Generally, you have 1

1316
00:46:55,005 --> 00:46:56,462
long rail, and it's a

1317
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,297
both sides are

1318
00:46:59,245 --> 00:47:00,755
distinctly parallel and identical.

1319
00:47:01,471 --> 00:47:03,379
And now they're ind inventing the dealer so

1320
00:47:03,379 --> 00:47:05,605
that they're closer to the action, making it

1321
00:47:05,605 --> 00:47:06,082
even harder,

1322
00:47:06,654 --> 00:47:08,251
for the first and last seats to to

1323
00:47:08,251 --> 00:47:10,246
see each other or other spots of the

1324
00:47:10,246 --> 00:47:11,842
table. So again,

1325
00:47:12,481 --> 00:47:14,077
don't assume that just because you're sitting at

1326
00:47:14,077 --> 00:47:15,216
the table, you can see everything

1327
00:47:15,529 --> 00:47:17,844
It's a bad assumption. True. So I don't

1328
00:47:17,844 --> 00:47:20,398
mind the full discretion here and all options

1329
00:47:20,398 --> 00:47:20,877
being open.

1330
00:47:22,074 --> 00:47:23,590
The rule doesn't quite read that way.

1331
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,596
The guy's intention was to enter the pot.

1332
00:47:28,394 --> 00:47:28,894
So

1333
00:47:29,591 --> 00:47:31,506
I'm inclined to let him change his action

1334
00:47:31,506 --> 00:47:32,006
because

1335
00:47:32,477 --> 00:47:35,019
hey. Situations are different. You've got dead money

1336
00:47:35,019 --> 00:47:36,210
and you've got more dead money in the

1337
00:47:36,210 --> 00:47:38,355
pot. You might have a hand that that

1338
00:47:38,355 --> 00:47:39,706
could have induced the slow play out of

1339
00:47:39,706 --> 00:47:40,182
the blinds,

1340
00:47:40,818 --> 00:47:41,374
of squeeze.

1341
00:47:42,264 --> 00:47:44,577
But with somebody already in for more than

1342
00:47:44,577 --> 00:47:45,056
the blinds,

1343
00:47:45,853 --> 00:47:47,608
your better option may to move a lot

1344
00:47:47,608 --> 00:47:49,522
of chips forward now. So again,

1345
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:51,516
things do become situational.

1346
00:47:52,887 --> 00:47:54,423
People strategy change were

1347
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,555
and again, I'll leave that to our our

1348
00:47:56,555 --> 00:47:59,128
fellow columnist and and comment there's

1349
00:47:59,505 --> 00:48:01,021
who actually comment on the play of the

1350
00:48:01,021 --> 00:48:03,049
game. But yes. No

1351
00:48:03,584 --> 00:48:06,369
yeah. The the same decision isn't made in

1352
00:48:06,369 --> 00:48:06,869
every

1353
00:48:07,563 --> 00:48:08,757
instance regardless of the.

1354
00:48:09,806 --> 00:48:11,159
Information available. So again,

1355
00:48:12,192 --> 00:48:14,340
yeah. I'm letting him come in for an

1356
00:48:14,340 --> 00:48:15,851
aggressive spot is not the worst thing here.

1357
00:48:16,425 --> 00:48:18,425
I would probably give him more latitude based

1358
00:48:18,425 --> 00:48:20,585
on the dealer lack of action, based on

1359
00:48:20,585 --> 00:48:23,065
the players lack of action other than very

1360
00:48:23,065 --> 00:48:24,265
quietly putting in 2 chips.

1361
00:48:25,791 --> 00:48:26,426
Little problem.

1362
00:48:27,856 --> 00:48:29,444
I think it resolve well, it's fair.

1363
00:48:30,635 --> 00:48:32,462
It doesn't sound unfair. And again,

1364
00:48:33,673 --> 00:48:36,470
the object of all of these rules of

1365
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:39,506
the Tb of making a decision. The object

1366
00:48:39,506 --> 00:48:41,599
is to get to a fair outcome, the

1367
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:43,597
object isn't to beat somebody your overhead over

1368
00:48:43,597 --> 00:48:46,073
the head with a rule. Right. So this

1369
00:48:46,073 --> 00:48:48,390
seems like a fair outcome, and therefore I'm

1370
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:48,870
in favor of.

1371
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,691
Yeah. And I don't see where

1372
00:48:52,542 --> 00:48:55,562
there's any chance for for an angle in

1373
00:48:55,562 --> 00:48:57,549
this, so I don't see what the harm

1374
00:48:57,549 --> 00:48:57,788
is.

1375
00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:01,160
You know, he's putting out 4 k.

1376
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,960
He's... Like you said, he's obviously wanting to

1377
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,199
come into the pot. So his change of

1378
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:07,099
action is

1379
00:49:07,652 --> 00:49:08,788
to go all in

1380
00:49:09,638 --> 00:49:11,942
because the information changed. So I I just

1381
00:49:11,942 --> 00:49:14,483
don't I don't see where that would or

1382
00:49:14,483 --> 00:49:16,804
could be an angle of any kind either.

1383
00:49:17,043 --> 00:49:19,216
Right. So... Because if he were

1384
00:49:19,672 --> 00:49:21,424
if he were merely calling the blinds,

1385
00:49:22,380 --> 00:49:24,632
and he wasn't exactly dumping chips to them

1386
00:49:25,023 --> 00:49:26,297
he was giving them a chance to see

1387
00:49:26,297 --> 00:49:28,286
a achieve flop. But now was come back

1388
00:49:28,286 --> 00:49:29,480
and raising them out of the pot. So

1389
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,117
he's obviously,

1390
00:49:31,151 --> 00:49:32,982
whatever favor he might have shown towards them

1391
00:49:32,982 --> 00:49:34,255
has immediately been thrown away.

1392
00:49:35,784 --> 00:49:37,081
There's no way you can

1393
00:49:37,538 --> 00:49:39,451
say he's pulling an angle on the guy

1394
00:49:39,451 --> 00:49:42,161
who put the reason. Right. He didn't pretend

1395
00:49:42,161 --> 00:49:43,931
to... To put chips in the pot and

1396
00:49:43,931 --> 00:49:46,004
then and try to show a razor. He

1397
00:49:46,004 --> 00:49:46,323
put in...

1398
00:49:47,201 --> 00:49:48,715
He put in chips, not knowing what was

1399
00:49:48,715 --> 00:49:50,390
going on. I'll give him the benefit for

1400
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:51,586
the out and say, he didn't notice the

1401
00:49:51,586 --> 00:49:52,086
race

1402
00:49:52,478 --> 00:49:54,464
obviously, the dealer didn't help in Mo. Yeah.

1403
00:49:54,703 --> 00:49:56,554
I I failed to see the angle here

1404
00:49:56,848 --> 00:49:58,675
in any regard towards any of the other

1405
00:49:58,675 --> 00:49:59,961
players still in the pot. Yeah.

1406
00:50:01,389 --> 00:50:01,627
So,

1407
00:50:02,341 --> 00:50:04,324
Marvin, I I think it sounds like you

1408
00:50:04,324 --> 00:50:05,617
did everything

1409
00:50:06,466 --> 00:50:07,418
pretty spot on like...

1410
00:50:08,623 --> 00:50:09,679
Not necessarily

1411
00:50:10,052 --> 00:50:12,218
by letter of the law, but

1412
00:50:13,147 --> 00:50:15,052
but I think in the fairness of everyone,

1413
00:50:15,863 --> 00:50:17,800
So kudos, and

1414
00:50:18,258 --> 00:50:20,434
thanks for sending that in. I always enjoy

1415
00:50:20,813 --> 00:50:21,313
getting

1416
00:50:22,250 --> 00:50:24,565
something from people that are running the tournaments

1417
00:50:24,565 --> 00:50:26,805
as well because it's cool to hear the

1418
00:50:26,805 --> 00:50:29,745
2 perspectives of people that have done this

1419
00:50:29,745 --> 00:50:30,698
for a while. So,

1420
00:50:31,652 --> 00:50:34,448
I appreciate that and well If anyone else

1421
00:50:34,448 --> 00:50:36,355
has a call the floor that they would

1422
00:50:36,355 --> 00:50:38,342
like to see how Elliot would rule,

1423
00:50:39,057 --> 00:50:41,521
send it to podcast at any at magazine

1424
00:50:41,521 --> 00:50:41,918
dot com.

1425
00:50:42,727 --> 00:50:44,549
Elliott. I appreciate you doing this again. Hi.

1426
00:50:44,628 --> 00:50:46,609
You're very welcome. Glad to doing. I'm glad

1427
00:50:46,768 --> 00:50:48,590
I got back in time to record the

1428
00:50:48,590 --> 00:50:49,382
next cast.

1429
00:50:50,034 --> 00:50:52,827
Very good. And next week, I'll be doing

1430
00:50:52,827 --> 00:50:53,646
it from

1431
00:50:54,104 --> 00:50:56,179
somewhere in Vegas. I don't know. I... I'm

1432
00:50:56,179 --> 00:50:57,296
still trying to figure out my,

1433
00:50:58,587 --> 00:51:00,657
where I'm going to be able to record

1434
00:51:00,657 --> 00:51:02,728
while I'm out there. Right. We'll figure out

1435
00:51:02,728 --> 00:51:05,036
something, and so we'll do it again next

1436
00:51:05,036 --> 00:51:06,470
week. Excellent. We'll forward to.

1437
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:11,979
Let's break it down with hand of the

1438
00:51:11,979 --> 00:51:12,218
week.

1439
00:51:16,136 --> 00:51:18,207
We are back with another hand of the

1440
00:51:18,207 --> 00:51:19,800
week with Patrick.

1441
00:51:20,518 --> 00:51:22,589
Hey, man. How's it going? Joe, I gotta

1442
00:51:22,589 --> 00:51:23,864
tell you out of all the recordings that

1443
00:51:23,864 --> 00:51:25,950
we've done and haynes that we've played. This

1444
00:51:25,950 --> 00:51:27,543
is by far the the best move that

1445
00:51:27,623 --> 00:51:29,238
I've ever been in because citi

1446
00:51:29,614 --> 00:51:30,809
stood at a hundred and 50 yards am

1447
00:51:30,809 --> 00:51:32,801
my right is the Atlantic ocean in all

1448
00:51:32,801 --> 00:51:33,119
wells.

1449
00:51:34,235 --> 00:51:36,165
And So I'm good, man. I love it.

1450
00:51:36,484 --> 00:51:39,357
I love it. And weather's been good. Weather

1451
00:51:39,357 --> 00:51:41,431
been phenomenal Had 1 little afternoon rain.

1452
00:51:42,483 --> 00:51:44,313
Family's good. You got kids run around left

1453
00:51:44,313 --> 00:51:46,620
and right, you know, multiple houses full of

1454
00:51:46,620 --> 00:51:48,530
people. It's it's been wonderful. Had a little

1455
00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:50,598
steak and seafood last night, nice. Had some

1456
00:51:50,598 --> 00:51:52,918
crab cakes. Yeah. It was a wife good,

1457
00:51:53,077 --> 00:51:55,858
man. How are you? I'm good. I'm good.

1458
00:51:56,969 --> 00:51:59,273
But since you're on vacation, I'm gonna make...

1459
00:51:59,512 --> 00:52:01,118
I'm gonna? Keep your brain working a little

1460
00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:02,494
bit, You know, I gotta

1461
00:52:02,869 --> 00:52:04,223
don't do it. On your toes.

1462
00:52:06,054 --> 00:52:06,452
Oh,

1463
00:52:07,328 --> 00:52:10,074
you know, keep When I asked for pineapple

1464
00:52:10,212 --> 00:52:10,712
hands

1465
00:52:11,885 --> 00:52:13,241
a few weeks ago,

1466
00:52:14,357 --> 00:52:15,951
I got a couple of them,

1467
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,911
And we only did 1.

1468
00:52:19,945 --> 00:52:21,219
It's time to come back to it.

1469
00:52:22,174 --> 00:52:24,004
Kinda do it. You know what's really ironic.

1470
00:52:24,163 --> 00:52:25,516
I and for the fans out there that

1471
00:52:25,516 --> 00:52:27,675
are actually, watching this. I'm not going to

1472
00:52:27,675 --> 00:52:29,103
stand up and show you my swim trucks,

1473
00:52:29,261 --> 00:52:32,118
but I have pineapples all over my swim

1474
00:52:32,118 --> 00:52:34,315
trucks right now. So they were ready. Really

1475
00:52:34,835 --> 00:52:36,355
Is ready. You go. I don't know if

1476
00:52:36,355 --> 00:52:38,034
my brain's vacation ready, but works this to

1477
00:52:38,034 --> 00:52:39,954
you when we got. So... Alright. We'll play

1478
00:52:39,954 --> 00:52:41,954
a pineapple game. Yeah. Well, before we get

1479
00:52:41,954 --> 00:52:44,528
into it, Let's mention Jackpot Digital is. Sponsor

1480
00:52:44,528 --> 00:52:46,383
of hand of the week, and

1481
00:52:46,839 --> 00:52:48,513
they're killing and out there in Vegas.

1482
00:52:49,309 --> 00:52:50,527
Those tables have been

1483
00:52:51,302 --> 00:52:51,802
full

1484
00:52:52,353 --> 00:52:54,047
love the feedback that

1485
00:52:54,503 --> 00:52:55,481
everybody has had,

1486
00:52:55,858 --> 00:52:57,531
you know, from those tables out there.

1487
00:52:58,646 --> 00:52:59,146
So

1488
00:52:59,522 --> 00:53:00,319
congrats to them,

1489
00:53:01,529 --> 00:53:02,968
And... You're gonna be out there soon enough.

1490
00:53:03,208 --> 00:53:05,126
Yeah. I'm I'm gonna sit down at 1

1491
00:53:05,126 --> 00:53:06,884
of those tables. Yeah. I'm gonna sit down

1492
00:53:06,884 --> 00:53:08,083
at 1 of those tables while I'm out

1493
00:53:08,083 --> 00:53:08,882
there Absolutely.

1494
00:53:09,361 --> 00:53:11,371
But our hand of the week... This is

1495
00:53:11,371 --> 00:53:14,554
sent in by Rob Fo, which is actually

1496
00:53:14,554 --> 00:53:16,703
1 of our Patreon members. He plays in

1497
00:53:16,703 --> 00:53:18,135
our Patreon game each month.

1498
00:53:18,708 --> 00:53:19,506
So... Nice.

1499
00:53:20,224 --> 00:53:22,536
And he sent this in said, hey, joe.

1500
00:53:22,776 --> 00:53:24,531
You asked for it for Patrick.

1501
00:53:25,169 --> 00:53:27,482
Maybe joking lee, but here's 1.

1502
00:53:30,531 --> 00:53:31,969
Looking forward to this. Alright. What do we

1503
00:53:31,969 --> 00:53:34,446
got? Alright. So we're we're actually playing on

1504
00:53:34,446 --> 00:53:35,245
global poker.

1505
00:53:36,139 --> 00:53:39,336
So online, it's a 6 handed, no limit,

1506
00:53:40,215 --> 00:53:43,571
crazy pineapple tournament. Oh, okay. And I also

1507
00:53:43,571 --> 00:53:46,536
love that Global Poker offers pineapple tournaments because

1508
00:53:46,536 --> 00:53:48,126
there's not a lot of them that do.

1509
00:53:48,444 --> 00:53:49,398
So I love that.

1510
00:53:50,829 --> 00:53:52,817
This is the first hand of the tournament.

1511
00:53:53,545 --> 00:53:56,240
So we're gonna try first thing Alright. We're

1512
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:57,508
gonna try not to bust out.

1513
00:54:01,014 --> 00:54:02,690
Yeah. Rob is totally setting to up for

1514
00:54:02,690 --> 00:54:03,089
phil. Right.

1515
00:54:04,206 --> 00:54:06,521
We start with 3000 chips because this is

1516
00:54:06,521 --> 00:54:07,160
the first hand.

1517
00:54:07,798 --> 00:54:09,235
We're in the small blind.

1518
00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:12,309
And those blinds are

1519
00:54:12,769 --> 00:54:13,969
10 and 20,

1520
00:54:14,530 --> 00:54:16,769
and everybody starts with a 2 chip, anti,

1521
00:54:17,740 --> 00:54:17,979
k.

1522
00:54:19,013 --> 00:54:20,762
We only have 5 at our table though.

1523
00:54:21,319 --> 00:54:23,489
So even though it's a 6 handed

1524
00:54:23,864 --> 00:54:24,340
tournament,

1525
00:54:24,738 --> 00:54:26,329
we only have 5 at our table at

1526
00:54:26,329 --> 00:54:26,806
the moment,

1527
00:54:27,933 --> 00:54:29,466
And under the gun

1528
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,813
le in for the 20, as does The

1529
00:54:33,813 --> 00:54:34,210
button.

1530
00:54:34,925 --> 00:54:35,084
Come.

1531
00:54:36,371 --> 00:54:38,360
And we have the Ace spade,

1532
00:54:39,314 --> 00:54:40,189
8 of hearts,

1533
00:54:41,144 --> 00:54:42,257
5 of spade.

1534
00:54:42,989 --> 00:54:46,123
Asus Spade, 8 of cards, 5 of spade

1535
00:54:46,581 --> 00:54:47,460
in the small blend,

1536
00:54:48,338 --> 00:54:49,855
very first name 2 limp.

1537
00:54:51,052 --> 00:54:51,291
Well,

1538
00:54:52,504 --> 00:54:54,099
I'm setting myself up for this 1, and

1539
00:54:54,179 --> 00:54:56,595
I I can already feel

1540
00:54:57,691 --> 00:54:59,447
feel it coming, but I'm setting myself up

1541
00:54:59,447 --> 00:55:01,458
for this 1 more time. So Asus spade,

1542
00:55:01,698 --> 00:55:04,016
8 of hearts 5 spade in the small

1543
00:55:04,016 --> 00:55:05,454
blind, firsthand of the tournament.

1544
00:55:06,094 --> 00:55:07,931
I am just calling and going to see

1545
00:55:07,931 --> 00:55:08,251
the flop.

1546
00:55:10,104 --> 00:55:12,421
I actually thought Right. Bring on. No. No.

1547
00:55:12,661 --> 00:55:14,179
I actually thought this was gonna be 1

1548
00:55:14,179 --> 00:55:16,416
of those times when you raise and I

1549
00:55:16,576 --> 00:55:17,135
I just call.

1550
00:55:17,947 --> 00:55:19,537
Oh, okay Well, you know what? I will

1551
00:55:19,537 --> 00:55:21,128
say for a split second. I was like,

1552
00:55:21,207 --> 00:55:23,195
okay. You, Aces spade got 2 space there.

1553
00:55:23,355 --> 00:55:24,706
I'm like, you know, what it... It's it's

1554
00:55:24,706 --> 00:55:26,471
something a great hand, but Maybe we'll send

1555
00:55:26,471 --> 00:55:28,062
the precedent, you know, early on for the

1556
00:55:28,062 --> 00:55:29,255
tournament, and then I go no. That's not

1557
00:55:29,255 --> 00:55:29,971
a good idea. Right.

1558
00:55:30,766 --> 00:55:31,960
It's not a good idea It's first firsthand.

1559
00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:34,045
Let's just Let's just fill this out for

1560
00:55:34,124 --> 00:55:36,833
Just. Literally a split second. Yeah. The... I

1561
00:55:36,833 --> 00:55:38,188
do like that we have a few ways

1562
00:55:38,188 --> 00:55:39,144
that we can win the hand.

1563
00:55:39,861 --> 00:55:42,422
Yeah. But it's not a super great hand

1564
00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:45,127
and we have the worst position because we're

1565
00:55:45,127 --> 00:55:46,581
into small line. So,

1566
00:55:47,768 --> 00:55:49,045
I make the call. I don't think we

1567
00:55:49,045 --> 00:55:49,364
raised...

1568
00:55:50,082 --> 00:55:51,677
If we raised, we'd have to make it,

1569
00:55:51,757 --> 00:55:54,684
like, 90 to a hundred. Yeah. And then

1570
00:55:55,041 --> 00:55:57,366
maybe we don't even get anybody out. So

1571
00:55:57,659 --> 00:56:00,277
then we're just b the pod unnecessarily. Right?

1572
00:56:00,990 --> 00:56:01,228
Yep.

1573
00:56:02,022 --> 00:56:02,522
So

1574
00:56:02,989 --> 00:56:04,897
Yeah. Let's call let's see a flop.

1575
00:56:06,407 --> 00:56:08,099
And that is what

1576
00:56:08,951 --> 00:56:10,143
Rob does as well.

1577
00:56:11,113 --> 00:56:14,320
K. Good man. And also the big blind

1578
00:56:14,697 --> 00:56:15,015
checks,

1579
00:56:15,652 --> 00:56:18,838
So that's even better. He... We're going we're

1580
00:56:18,838 --> 00:56:20,690
going forward to the flop. 4 ways to

1581
00:56:20,690 --> 00:56:21,750
the flop with

1582
00:56:22,130 --> 00:56:23,909
90 in the pot because

1583
00:56:24,449 --> 00:56:26,369
everybody had to put in 2. 0, the

1584
00:56:26,369 --> 00:56:27,489
2 80. Yeah. K.

1585
00:56:29,496 --> 00:56:31,189
We see a flop of

1586
00:56:31,564 --> 00:56:32,757
the queen of clubs,

1587
00:56:33,552 --> 00:56:34,688
ace of diamonds,

1588
00:56:35,541 --> 00:56:36,336
10 of diamonds.

1589
00:56:36,907 --> 00:56:38,100
So we paired up our races.

1590
00:56:38,815 --> 00:56:39,848
Yeah. Beads are gone.

1591
00:56:41,279 --> 00:56:41,518
Okay.

1592
00:56:44,538 --> 00:56:45,412
You said, okay.

1593
00:56:48,762 --> 00:56:49,238
Jack.

1594
00:56:52,096 --> 00:56:54,080
Yeah. I think we we we have to

1595
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:54,318
check.

1596
00:56:54,969 --> 00:56:56,407
I think you have to check. I don't

1597
00:56:56,407 --> 00:56:58,405
see if anyway, I don't think you could

1598
00:56:58,405 --> 00:56:59,764
you could sit here for a long time,

1599
00:57:00,323 --> 00:57:01,681
and I'm sitting here at the beach. I

1600
00:57:01,681 --> 00:57:02,640
have nothing bud time.

1601
00:57:03,213 --> 00:57:05,041
I I think you could sit here for

1602
00:57:05,041 --> 00:57:06,551
a long time and not convinced me of

1603
00:57:06,551 --> 00:57:08,459
bedding here. Yeah. I mean,

1604
00:57:09,492 --> 00:57:10,207
we hit the ace.

1605
00:57:10,940 --> 00:57:13,420
That's it. Yeah. Great. Awesome. Yep. We don't

1606
00:57:13,420 --> 00:57:14,059
have diamonds.

1607
00:57:14,619 --> 00:57:15,579
Our kickr sucks.

1608
00:57:20,713 --> 00:57:22,461
So... Yeah. Not a lot... Sound like a

1609
00:57:22,461 --> 00:57:25,083
sad country song. Yeah. You got you got

1610
00:57:25,083 --> 00:57:27,546
the aces and then and then your kicker

1611
00:57:27,546 --> 00:57:29,156
sucks. And the you the rest of the

1612
00:57:29,156 --> 00:57:31,548
hands gonna be terrible. Yep. And sad cut

1613
00:57:31,548 --> 00:57:33,862
your son. Yep. And my dog ran away

1614
00:57:33,862 --> 00:57:35,058
and... Yep. Pretty much.

1615
00:57:40,019 --> 00:57:41,376
Please tell me Rob did the same.

1616
00:57:42,254 --> 00:57:43,452
Rob checks as well.

1617
00:57:44,010 --> 00:57:46,165
Good, man. As does the big blind?

1618
00:57:47,056 --> 00:57:48,351
But the end of the gun

1619
00:57:50,238 --> 00:57:53,260
makes it 60. He he bets 60.

1620
00:57:53,673 --> 00:57:54,651
So can

1621
00:57:55,185 --> 00:57:56,139
over half pot.

1622
00:57:57,889 --> 00:57:59,639
I'm assuming the... What does the button do?

1623
00:58:00,689 --> 00:58:02,766
Do you say? So the button,

1624
00:58:04,524 --> 00:58:06,761
he didn't say. So I'm I'm assuming the

1625
00:58:06,761 --> 00:58:07,640
button folds.

1626
00:58:08,292 --> 00:58:09,719
If he made a play, then he would

1627
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:10,433
have said something.

1628
00:58:11,860 --> 00:58:12,891
So 60 to us,

1629
00:58:14,874 --> 00:58:15,191
I mean,

1630
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:17,751
The price of this hand is gonna go

1631
00:58:17,751 --> 00:58:20,059
up significantly with just parent Aces and no

1632
00:58:20,059 --> 00:58:20,377
kicker.

1633
00:58:24,293 --> 00:58:26,447
I know unfold. I was gonna say, I

1634
00:58:26,447 --> 00:58:27,962
would. I was gonna be, like, I'm gonna

1635
00:58:27,962 --> 00:58:30,275
help you out here because I know how

1636
00:58:30,275 --> 00:58:31,949
much you hate to fold on hand of

1637
00:58:31,949 --> 00:58:33,146
the week. You wanna play.

1638
00:58:33,876 --> 00:58:35,545
But this is garbage.

1639
00:58:36,419 --> 00:58:38,485
Yeah. It really is. I think... But I

1640
00:58:38,485 --> 00:58:39,677
think a lot of things go into it

1641
00:58:39,677 --> 00:58:41,362
too. I mean, I think... Don't get me

1642
00:58:41,362 --> 00:58:42,717
wrong. I I feel like if we were,

1643
00:58:42,796 --> 00:58:45,027
you know, even 10 minutes into the, you,

1644
00:58:45,107 --> 00:58:46,860
you know, the tournament. I mean, I may

1645
00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:49,170
play it, you know, but it's just the

1646
00:58:49,170 --> 00:58:49,967
first hand. I mean,

1647
00:58:50,777 --> 00:58:53,161
if we... So 60 going in, so we're

1648
00:58:53,161 --> 00:58:55,385
already at 01:50. If we call it's you

1649
00:58:55,385 --> 00:58:57,451
know, it's 02:10, and, you know, someone else

1650
00:58:57,451 --> 00:58:58,483
calls 2 70.

1651
00:58:59,294 --> 00:59:00,173
Okay. Awesome.

1652
00:59:00,892 --> 00:59:02,890
Yeah. See play the next hand. I I

1653
00:59:02,890 --> 00:59:04,249
think that's where you go with it. Yeah.

1654
00:59:05,527 --> 00:59:08,244
If another diamond comes, then we're in trouble.

1655
00:59:08,659 --> 00:59:08,818
Yep.

1656
00:59:09,536 --> 00:59:11,769
We're probably out kicked if somebody has an

1657
00:59:11,849 --> 00:59:12,908
Ace and

1658
00:59:13,923 --> 00:59:16,396
broadway is out there. So somebody can have

1659
00:59:16,396 --> 00:59:16,896
the

1660
00:59:17,273 --> 00:59:19,839
the nut straight. Yep. So Yep. Save the

1661
00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:20,817
money for later

1662
00:59:21,193 --> 00:59:22,092
and in the tournament

1663
00:59:22,468 --> 00:59:23,344
fold. Yep.

1664
00:59:24,061 --> 00:59:24,858
Rob calls.

1665
00:59:25,989 --> 00:59:28,710
K as does the big blind. He's feeling

1666
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:30,309
frog 1 hand in. I love it. I

1667
00:59:30,469 --> 00:59:32,230
I respect it. I wouldn't do it, but

1668
00:59:32,309 --> 00:59:32,869
I respect it.

1669
00:59:34,565 --> 00:59:36,005
Yeah. So Rob calls,

1670
00:59:36,804 --> 00:59:38,744
the big blind calls, and

1671
00:59:39,285 --> 00:59:41,445
now the decision is, what do we get

1672
00:59:41,445 --> 00:59:41,765
rid of?

1673
00:59:43,210 --> 00:59:45,907
That's pretty easy isn't it? Get rid of

1674
00:59:45,907 --> 00:59:47,811
get rid of your other crappy kicker?

1675
00:59:48,605 --> 00:59:48,922
Yeah.

1676
00:59:49,494 --> 00:59:52,047
If there was any spade gone. Yeah. If

1677
00:59:52,047 --> 00:59:54,282
there was any spade on the board, I

1678
00:59:54,282 --> 00:59:56,596
could see us keeping the 5, but there's

1679
00:59:56,596 --> 00:59:56,835
not.

1680
00:59:57,489 --> 01:00:00,206
So The 5... Fives gone, you've done nothing

1681
01:00:00,206 --> 01:00:02,124
for me See if 5 was spade. Yeah.

1682
01:00:02,284 --> 01:00:04,761
There's no flush. There's no straight. There's nothing.

1683
01:00:04,921 --> 01:00:05,720
So throw it away.

1684
01:00:06,454 --> 01:00:08,855
So we got Ace Spade, ada hearts, and

1685
01:00:08,855 --> 01:00:09,974
we've got queen clubs,

1686
01:00:10,695 --> 01:00:12,375
ace diamonds, 10 of diamonds on the board.

1687
01:00:12,855 --> 01:00:13,655
But Ram?

1688
01:00:14,546 --> 01:00:15,262
Discarded the 8.

1689
01:00:16,057 --> 01:00:18,443
Excuse me? He says this was a mistake

1690
01:00:18,443 --> 01:00:19,102
in hindsight.

1691
01:00:20,033 --> 01:00:22,737
You should keep highest cards if straight or

1692
01:00:22,737 --> 01:00:23,691
flesh or not possible,

1693
01:00:24,422 --> 01:00:26,171
I don't know why. I don't know why

1694
01:00:26,171 --> 01:00:28,159
you would throw the 8 and not... I

1695
01:00:28,159 --> 01:00:30,306
mean, there's no possible way of spade, so

1696
01:00:30,306 --> 01:00:31,498
that doesn't do you any good.

1697
01:00:32,548 --> 01:00:34,143
You can't hit it straight either. You can't

1698
01:00:34,143 --> 01:00:35,340
hit a flushing, and you can't hit it

1699
01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:37,892
straight. Maybe you did it by accident. Yeah.

1700
01:00:38,451 --> 01:00:39,727
That's all there is to say about that.

1701
01:00:39,966 --> 01:00:41,981
There's 3 players to the turn

1702
01:00:43,813 --> 01:00:45,351
Pot is now

1703
01:00:46,210 --> 01:00:47,089
2 70,

1704
01:00:47,568 --> 01:00:51,165
and the turn is the jack of clubs.

1705
01:00:52,295 --> 01:00:54,364
Well, I can't think of many other worst

1706
01:00:54,364 --> 01:00:54,602
cards.

1707
01:00:55,795 --> 01:00:57,545
It checks to us, check.

1708
01:00:58,340 --> 01:00:58,500
Check.

1709
01:00:59,309 --> 01:01:01,931
Yeah. I mean, the only reason, the only

1710
01:01:01,931 --> 01:01:03,757
reason... Voluntarily fold? Yeah.

1711
01:01:05,823 --> 01:01:07,809
The only reason to put another chip in

1712
01:01:07,809 --> 01:01:08,206
this pot.

1713
01:01:09,656 --> 01:01:11,889
Would be to try to steal it. Yes.

1714
01:01:12,128 --> 01:01:14,442
You're... Okay. Look, you're right. You're absolutely right

1715
01:01:14,442 --> 01:01:16,914
on that. However, I am not feeling that

1716
01:01:16,914 --> 01:01:18,349
frog on the first hand of tournament.

1717
01:01:18,922 --> 01:01:19,321
Exactly.

1718
01:01:19,959 --> 01:01:20,118
Yeah.

1719
01:01:21,393 --> 01:01:23,386
At this point, any king would be Broadway.

1720
01:01:23,625 --> 01:01:25,618
So we could try to represent having a

1721
01:01:25,618 --> 01:01:25,777
king.

1722
01:01:26,589 --> 01:01:28,657
You absolutely could. But when the guy next

1723
01:01:28,657 --> 01:01:29,316
to you

1724
01:01:29,691 --> 01:01:30,168
has it.

1725
01:01:31,362 --> 01:01:31,600
Yeah.

1726
01:01:34,161 --> 01:01:35,672
Again, you're right. But we could. I mean,

1727
01:01:35,831 --> 01:01:37,582
that is adds absolutely 1 way to go

1728
01:01:37,582 --> 01:01:39,889
about it. And, you know, it's only 4

1729
01:01:39,889 --> 01:01:42,136
kings out. So... Yeah. And if anybody has

1730
01:01:42,136 --> 01:01:43,572
2 diamonds, they're not folding.

1731
01:01:44,449 --> 01:01:45,327
No. You're right.

1732
01:01:46,045 --> 01:01:46,545
So

1733
01:01:47,561 --> 01:01:47,960
I just...

1734
01:01:48,690 --> 01:01:51,625
Yeah. Check and move on. But for the

1735
01:01:51,625 --> 01:01:53,450
sake of argument, if I was gonna try

1736
01:01:53,450 --> 01:01:55,195
and steal it, I would bet full pot.

1737
01:01:56,090 --> 01:01:59,130
I absolutely was thinking 2 02:30 to 02:50

1738
01:01:59,130 --> 01:01:59,530
as well.

1739
01:02:00,409 --> 01:02:01,690
Even up to the full pot. So...

1740
01:02:02,409 --> 01:02:05,614
Rob also checks. So there's still 2 70

1741
01:02:05,614 --> 01:02:06,910
in the pot and the river

1742
01:02:07,602 --> 01:02:09,033
is the 5 of hearts,

1743
01:02:09,987 --> 01:02:11,815
which gives us 2 pair. Wait a minute.

1744
01:02:11,974 --> 01:02:12,928
Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

1745
01:02:14,534 --> 01:02:16,364
Let's recap real quick. So we had the

1746
01:02:16,443 --> 01:02:18,193
Ace spade, the 8 of hearts and the

1747
01:02:18,193 --> 01:02:19,386
5 spade to start with.

1748
01:02:21,629 --> 01:02:22,447
Our guy

1749
01:02:23,061 --> 01:02:24,574
threw away the 8 of hearts.

1750
01:02:25,688 --> 01:02:28,076
And and then he river a 5,

1751
01:02:28,649 --> 01:02:31,046
to make? Has aces and fives. Yes.

1752
01:02:32,963 --> 01:02:33,203
Wow,

1753
01:02:34,482 --> 01:02:35,760
what what what are you do with 2

1754
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:36,000
pair?

1755
01:02:37,207 --> 01:02:37,842
I don't know.

1756
01:02:40,460 --> 01:02:42,206
Which we shouldn't have been here in the

1757
01:02:42,206 --> 01:02:42,761
first place.

1758
01:02:43,889 --> 01:02:45,405
Alright. So what what do we have going

1759
01:02:45,405 --> 01:02:47,321
to the river? I I lost count. Do

1760
01:02:47,321 --> 01:02:48,039
you have that count?

1761
01:02:48,838 --> 01:02:50,594
You're 2 70 to the turn and then

1762
01:02:50,594 --> 01:02:52,110
everyone checks? Everybody check. So it's 2.

1763
01:02:52,923 --> 01:02:53,800
2 70. Okay.

1764
01:02:54,838 --> 01:02:56,774
I don't know. I mean, you haven't

1765
01:02:57,391 --> 01:02:58,907
you haven't represented anything.

1766
01:03:00,198 --> 01:03:00,916
From the get go.

1767
01:03:01,952 --> 01:03:04,584
I... You try to throw in something now.

1768
01:03:04,983 --> 01:03:06,418
I I don't know that anyone's gonna believe

1769
01:03:06,418 --> 01:03:07,535
you with a 5 of hearts.

1770
01:03:08,492 --> 01:03:08,731
Right?

1771
01:03:09,622 --> 01:03:10,973
You got 2 clubs in the board, 2

1772
01:03:10,973 --> 01:03:12,961
diamonds on the board. Obviously, you've got the

1773
01:03:12,961 --> 01:03:14,710
straight draw for sure.

1774
01:03:17,269 --> 01:03:19,110
I think it can you checked. I mean,

1775
01:03:19,269 --> 01:03:21,130
it's coming from a place of weakness, but

1776
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:23,430
we are in the weakness, I guess. I

1777
01:03:23,590 --> 01:03:24,890
I don't know. I I

1778
01:03:25,521 --> 01:03:27,191
And well, let me let me say who

1779
01:03:27,191 --> 01:03:29,599
let me just say that who cares

1780
01:03:30,054 --> 01:03:30,928
that we have 2 pair?

1781
01:03:32,121 --> 01:03:33,257
That board is

1782
01:03:33,871 --> 01:03:34,371
awful.

1783
01:03:35,714 --> 01:03:37,622
Yes. We... We are beating in a lot

1784
01:03:37,622 --> 01:03:40,166
of ways, unfortunately. Now, it's not guaranteed that

1785
01:03:40,166 --> 01:03:41,279
we're beating in a lot of ways, but

1786
01:03:41,279 --> 01:03:42,550
we are beating in a lot of ways.

1787
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,826
Potentially. The only good thing about that board

1788
01:03:45,826 --> 01:03:47,654
is that diamonds didn't come.

1789
01:03:48,688 --> 01:03:51,232
Correct. So you got somebody sitting on diamonds

1790
01:03:51,232 --> 01:03:51,630
for sure.

1791
01:03:53,316 --> 01:03:54,373
Yeah. So

1792
01:03:55,068 --> 01:03:57,936
going back to the last street, if we

1793
01:03:57,936 --> 01:03:58,755
would have

1794
01:03:59,211 --> 01:04:01,043
turned our hand into a bluff on the

1795
01:04:01,043 --> 01:04:01,442
turn.

1796
01:04:02,333 --> 01:04:04,807
We could continue that story and probably take

1797
01:04:04,807 --> 01:04:05,127
it down.

1798
01:04:06,244 --> 01:04:08,079
That's a good point. But that is absolutely

1799
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:09,675
good point. Mh. But but you had to

1800
01:04:09,675 --> 01:04:10,748
make decision

1801
01:04:11,204 --> 01:04:13,671
on the turn. Yeah. And we did not.

1802
01:04:14,148 --> 01:04:15,740
But that is a good point real quick

1803
01:04:15,740 --> 01:04:17,331
for for... You know, further the reference. If

1804
01:04:17,331 --> 01:04:19,162
you're gonna wanna go, like, you're you're feeling

1805
01:04:19,162 --> 01:04:21,655
it? Then make the move to do it

1806
01:04:21,655 --> 01:04:23,014
because this is the perfect way to do

1807
01:04:23,014 --> 01:04:24,534
it. At least you have something to represent

1808
01:04:24,534 --> 01:04:26,295
a little bit now, and then you could

1809
01:04:26,295 --> 01:04:27,894
have told that story for for 2 rounds,

1810
01:04:28,054 --> 01:04:30,144
but you know, right now, you're kind of

1811
01:04:30,144 --> 01:04:31,819
up, you know, what Creek. Yeah know.

1812
01:04:33,255 --> 01:04:33,755
So

1813
01:04:34,691 --> 01:04:37,004
yeah. As as played as we played it,

1814
01:04:37,323 --> 01:04:38,280
we we have to check.

1815
01:04:39,170 --> 01:04:42,032
Yeah. And Rob agrees because he checks as

1816
01:04:42,032 --> 01:04:42,349
well.

1817
01:04:43,144 --> 01:04:45,870
Come. He says because of board texture and

1818
01:04:46,975 --> 01:04:49,858
notes that Villain on the button is a

1819
01:04:49,994 --> 01:04:50,494
notorious

1820
01:04:50,868 --> 01:04:51,662
sand bag.

1821
01:04:52,774 --> 01:04:53,274
I'm

1822
01:04:53,823 --> 01:04:55,814
not really sure what that means,

1823
01:04:56,451 --> 01:04:56,951
but

1824
01:04:58,601 --> 01:05:00,433
I guess, maybe they think that he could

1825
01:05:00,433 --> 01:05:02,287
have a king there and

1826
01:05:02,678 --> 01:05:04,665
was just waiting for someone to bet. I'm

1827
01:05:04,665 --> 01:05:05,460
not really sure.

1828
01:05:06,573 --> 01:05:06,732
K.

1829
01:05:07,447 --> 01:05:09,117
It ends up checking around.

1830
01:05:10,802 --> 01:05:11,121
Wow.

1831
01:05:12,077 --> 01:05:14,227
Please tell me that our guy Rob takes

1832
01:05:14,227 --> 01:05:16,298
us down, please. I mean, I haven't looked

1833
01:05:16,298 --> 01:05:17,117
yet, but

1834
01:05:18,050 --> 01:05:18,550
but

1835
01:05:19,738 --> 01:05:21,965
If we end up taking this down, we

1836
01:05:21,965 --> 01:05:23,579
have to feel very fortunate.

1837
01:05:24,829 --> 01:05:26,045
Yeah. Absolutely.

1838
01:05:26,754 --> 01:05:28,509
Although I will say even before you look

1839
01:05:28,509 --> 01:05:29,647
at it, it

1840
01:05:30,663 --> 01:05:32,817
if it checked around, pardon of me like

1841
01:05:32,817 --> 01:05:33,296
man.

1842
01:05:34,029 --> 01:05:35,547
If you really did go that route, you

1843
01:05:35,547 --> 01:05:36,826
could taking this down on a turn.

1844
01:05:37,545 --> 01:05:38,344
Yeah. Yeah.

1845
01:05:38,983 --> 01:05:41,874
Alright. Anyway, hunt... You can't do that. So

1846
01:05:41,874 --> 01:05:42,193
it says,

1847
01:05:42,993 --> 01:05:45,810
it ends up checking around and sure enough

1848
01:05:45,949 --> 01:05:46,849
sand bag

1849
01:05:47,308 --> 01:05:47,808
has

1850
01:05:48,187 --> 01:05:51,633
bigger flopped 2 pair. He has ace 10,

1851
01:05:52,430 --> 01:05:54,422
but he also... That Stan Bag doesn't know

1852
01:05:54,422 --> 01:05:55,081
how to

1853
01:05:55,537 --> 01:05:56,414
play Poker very well.

1854
01:05:59,449 --> 01:06:01,355
Well, I I'll I'll say this too though.

1855
01:06:01,752 --> 01:06:03,839
I don't think a lot of people play

1856
01:06:04,133 --> 01:06:05,007
pineapple well.

1857
01:06:05,977 --> 01:06:08,367
There's there's a lot of variance of poker

1858
01:06:08,367 --> 01:06:09,983
that even though

1859
01:06:10,518 --> 01:06:12,112
hold them gets harder and harder,

1860
01:06:12,923 --> 01:06:14,833
Yeah there a lot of variants of poker

1861
01:06:14,833 --> 01:06:15,333
that

1862
01:06:15,709 --> 01:06:16,903
you can make some money at.

1863
01:06:17,619 --> 01:06:20,246
If you can find a pineapple game,

1864
01:06:20,899 --> 01:06:22,893
I feel like you can make some money

1865
01:06:22,893 --> 01:06:23,291
with it.

1866
01:06:24,568 --> 01:06:25,286
But... Yeah.

1867
01:06:25,923 --> 01:06:26,881
The sand bag,

1868
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:29,933
a had ace 10 and

1869
01:06:31,364 --> 01:06:33,302
I guess also had some broadway

1870
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,557
draws. Right? So... Yeah.

1871
01:06:37,117 --> 01:06:39,606
It goes back to our point because Yeah.

1872
01:06:39,845 --> 01:06:41,696
Like you said, if we would have

1873
01:06:42,229 --> 01:06:44,057
represented that king, we definitely could've have taken

1874
01:06:44,057 --> 01:06:44,454
it down.

1875
01:06:45,647 --> 01:06:45,885
There...

1876
01:06:48,048 --> 01:06:49,721
Yeah. It's just so hard. I mean,

1877
01:06:50,597 --> 01:06:51,575
there's so many

1878
01:06:52,190 --> 01:06:54,181
extra... Well, not so many, but there's extra

1879
01:06:54,181 --> 01:06:56,425
variables that go into it. You're literally sitting

1880
01:06:56,425 --> 01:06:57,164
on Aces

1881
01:06:57,541 --> 01:06:59,135
with a terrible kicker.

1882
01:07:00,250 --> 01:07:01,684
It it's it's just hard to sit back.

1883
01:07:01,844 --> 01:07:03,213
You, you mean, you gotta be because, did

1884
01:07:03,213 --> 01:07:04,247
to do it. And if you did. If

1885
01:07:04,247 --> 01:07:05,440
you represented the king on the throne, and

1886
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:06,632
then you represented the king...

1887
01:07:07,746 --> 01:07:10,370
Yeah. You probably could have. Yeah. And he

1888
01:07:10,370 --> 01:07:12,676
actually, I just... He he asked the question.

1889
01:07:13,488 --> 01:07:15,404
Do you think if I bluff here, I

1890
01:07:15,404 --> 01:07:16,362
would have taken it down?

1891
01:07:17,559 --> 01:07:20,034
Yeah. I do. Yeah. I think it would've

1892
01:07:20,034 --> 01:07:21,390
have been guts? I think it would have

1893
01:07:21,390 --> 01:07:22,844
been a hell of a hand of the

1894
01:07:22,844 --> 01:07:23,664
week, but

1895
01:07:24,445 --> 01:07:25,164
I thought, you,

1896
01:07:25,885 --> 01:07:27,405
you're a better minded and I didn't to

1897
01:07:27,405 --> 01:07:27,724
do that.

1898
01:07:28,364 --> 01:07:30,537
Especially the first hand of the tournament. Yeah.

1899
01:07:30,855 --> 01:07:32,604
I think that's my biggest thing. Is first

1900
01:07:32,604 --> 01:07:34,114
hand of the tournament. I'm trying... I'm still

1901
01:07:34,114 --> 01:07:35,728
trying to get a feel for

1902
01:07:36,659 --> 01:07:40,012
the the table, the players that begin. And

1903
01:07:40,012 --> 01:07:41,387
things like that. I

1904
01:07:41,841 --> 01:07:44,625
I think yes. It's true. But I think

1905
01:07:44,625 --> 01:07:45,125
that

1906
01:07:47,964 --> 01:07:49,180
the bigger mistakes

1907
01:07:50,129 --> 01:07:52,766
obviously, are even playing the.

1908
01:07:54,923 --> 01:07:55,982
Yes. There's

1909
01:07:56,361 --> 01:07:57,320
absolutely a good start.

1910
01:07:58,447 --> 01:08:00,272
I can see, you know, pre flop, obviously,

1911
01:08:00,510 --> 01:08:01,541
we can we can play.

1912
01:08:02,176 --> 01:08:04,342
But after the flop, I feel like

1913
01:08:05,286 --> 01:08:07,514
That's just a fold. And then, of course,

1914
01:08:07,911 --> 01:08:10,298
getting rid of the 8 is puzzling. I

1915
01:08:10,298 --> 01:08:11,912
don't understand that, but

1916
01:08:12,288 --> 01:08:13,401
it didn't cost us a ton.

1917
01:08:14,689 --> 01:08:16,598
No. It didn't. You're absolutely right. And you

1918
01:08:16,598 --> 01:08:19,144
got to play. And re... I mean, however

1919
01:08:19,144 --> 01:08:20,019
he knew that's...

1920
01:08:21,387 --> 01:08:21,467
The...

1921
01:08:22,264 --> 01:08:23,539
However, you knew that the button was a

1922
01:08:23,539 --> 01:08:25,212
sand bag. I mean that a hundred percent,

1923
01:08:25,452 --> 01:08:28,240
you know, solidifies that in whatever terminology, I'm

1924
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,494
assuming Mean, sand bag in golf means you

1925
01:08:30,494 --> 01:08:30,655
you're...

1926
01:08:31,375 --> 01:08:33,454
You you have a really high cabbage you

1927
01:08:33,454 --> 01:08:35,695
actually play better. So a sand bag and

1928
01:08:35,695 --> 01:08:37,542
poker. I'm... Assuming he's referring to he's actually

1929
01:08:37,542 --> 01:08:39,054
a good poker player, but he doesn't, you

1930
01:08:39,054 --> 01:08:41,442
know, represent himself to be. So he kinda

1931
01:08:41,442 --> 01:08:42,795
lies and wait. So I'm assuming that's what

1932
01:08:42,795 --> 01:08:44,642
it is. So assuming, you know, you learned

1933
01:08:44,642 --> 01:08:45,838
a little bit. It didn't cost you your

1934
01:08:45,838 --> 01:08:47,912
ton? Yeah. I hope I hope you did

1935
01:08:47,912 --> 01:08:49,268
well on the rest of turn. Problem. Yeah.

1936
01:08:49,427 --> 01:08:50,783
I was gonna say he didn't say how

1937
01:08:50,783 --> 01:08:51,900
he did in the rest of the tournament,

1938
01:08:52,060 --> 01:08:53,336
so we'll have to ask him in the

1939
01:08:53,336 --> 01:08:54,148
next page jung.

1940
01:08:54,785 --> 01:08:56,697
That we can do. Which is when. It's

1941
01:08:56,697 --> 01:08:59,087
later this month. 2 weeks. Right? Yes. The

1942
01:08:59,087 --> 01:08:59,725
20 fifth.

1943
01:09:01,175 --> 01:09:02,451
3 weeks. Okay. Hey. You know what's it's

1944
01:09:02,451 --> 01:09:03,726
funny, Joe. Not to rub it. I'm gonna

1945
01:09:03,726 --> 01:09:06,119
be beat the Beach again for that 9II

1946
01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:07,257
wanna play a crickets

1947
01:09:07,635 --> 01:09:08,512
sound effect right here.

1948
01:09:11,952 --> 01:09:13,087
And all I hear is

1949
01:09:13,697 --> 01:09:14,728
the way he's crushing.

1950
01:09:15,521 --> 01:09:16,711
July 20 fifth, I'm put it in my

1951
01:09:16,711 --> 01:09:18,694
calendar right now. Everyone should as well. It's

1952
01:09:18,694 --> 01:09:19,011
easy.

1953
01:09:19,663 --> 01:09:21,179
Yeah. It's so much fun. It's it's a

1954
01:09:21,179 --> 01:09:23,173
lot of fun, even though you'd forgot about

1955
01:09:23,173 --> 01:09:23,731
it last.

1956
01:09:24,369 --> 01:09:27,161
I'm going on record, and I am submitting

1957
01:09:27,161 --> 01:09:28,937
to a wheel of punishment.

1958
01:09:29,887 --> 01:09:32,279
If I am not logged on from Ocean

1959
01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:33,873
okinawa Beach North Carolina in 3 weeks.

1960
01:09:34,750 --> 01:09:37,163
Alright. Sounds good on the record. And

1961
01:09:37,953 --> 01:09:40,586
And before that point, we're gonna do this

1962
01:09:40,586 --> 01:09:42,580
next week, and I will be doing it

1963
01:09:42,580 --> 01:09:45,052
from a hotel room somewhere in Vegas.

1964
01:09:47,046 --> 01:09:47,206
Alright.

1965
01:09:47,859 --> 01:09:49,852
You might have it beat next week. I

1966
01:09:49,852 --> 01:09:51,605
love it. When you guys set out here

1967
01:09:51,605 --> 01:09:52,323
soon the next couple of days?

1968
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:55,431
Our plane leaves on the ninth?

1969
01:09:56,405 --> 01:09:56,905
And

1970
01:09:57,284 --> 01:09:58,965
we will be there from the ninth to

1971
01:09:58,965 --> 01:09:59,704
the nineteenth,

1972
01:10:00,164 --> 01:10:02,085
which is why the Patreon game will be

1973
01:10:02,085 --> 01:10:03,765
the 20 fifth because it can't be until

1974
01:10:03,765 --> 01:10:04,244
we get back.

1975
01:10:05,136 --> 01:10:07,765
Fair enough. I can appreciate that. Very nice.

1976
01:10:08,323 --> 01:10:09,837
Well, that should be a good time. Hopefully,

1977
01:10:09,996 --> 01:10:12,147
any any listener it out there flagging down

1978
01:10:12,147 --> 01:10:13,502
and say, hey. That'd be fun.

1979
01:10:14,234 --> 01:10:16,062
Yep. So if you're in Vegas come look

1980
01:10:16,062 --> 01:10:17,015
me up and,

1981
01:10:18,050 --> 01:10:18,287
Patrick,

1982
01:10:19,242 --> 01:10:20,195
we'll do it again next week.

1983
01:10:20,990 --> 01:10:21,547
That we will.

1984
01:10:32,103 --> 01:10:33,239
Poker is this

1985
01:10:33,693 --> 01:10:37,052
beautiful chaos of human emotions and

1986
01:10:37,427 --> 01:10:38,324
dramatic showdown.

1987
01:10:39,667 --> 01:10:40,167
So

1988
01:10:40,702 --> 01:10:42,373
without some kind of ground rules,

1989
01:10:43,249 --> 01:10:46,592
this chaos could quickly descend into utter mayhem.

1990
01:10:47,323 --> 01:10:49,874
And that's why the Td is so important.

1991
01:10:50,831 --> 01:10:54,360
The the Td ensures that poker tournaments run

1992
01:10:54,497 --> 01:10:54,896
smoothly.

1993
01:10:55,628 --> 01:10:58,091
And honestly, we have matt Savage to think

1994
01:10:58,091 --> 01:10:58,489
for that.

1995
01:10:59,601 --> 01:11:02,224
So why I ask you is he not

1996
01:11:02,224 --> 01:11:03,359
in the poker Hall?

1997
01:11:04,864 --> 01:11:07,181
The man has done so much for the

1998
01:11:07,181 --> 01:11:07,741
game of coke.

1999
01:11:09,499 --> 01:11:12,615
He is to poker what doctor Doo little

2000
01:11:12,615 --> 01:11:13,574
is to animals.

2001
01:11:14,465 --> 01:11:17,560
He understands the players, the dealers, the staff,

2002
01:11:17,957 --> 01:11:20,259
the math of a tournament. I mean, if

2003
01:11:20,259 --> 01:11:22,243
you've ever seen the Wp run,

2004
01:11:22,893 --> 01:11:23,926
It's like a Symphony.

2005
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,627
And without Matt Savage,

2006
01:11:27,183 --> 01:11:29,248
fighting to get a clear set of rules,

2007
01:11:30,457 --> 01:11:33,086
then Poker would probably be more like a

2008
01:11:33,086 --> 01:11:34,680
zoo with the gates left open.

2009
01:11:35,476 --> 01:11:35,716
And,

2010
01:11:36,671 --> 01:11:39,878
Matt is a globe t ambassador for Poker

2011
01:11:39,878 --> 01:11:43,150
as well. He plants seeds of excitement for

2012
01:11:43,150 --> 01:11:44,847
the game and professionalism

2013
01:11:45,225 --> 01:11:45,385
everywhere,

2014
01:11:46,832 --> 01:11:49,616
He's like the Johnny Apple to Poker too.

2015
01:11:51,127 --> 01:11:51,627
And

2016
01:11:52,082 --> 01:11:53,911
he's always open to answering...

2017
01:11:54,403 --> 01:11:57,101
Questions about situations that you ask him on

2018
01:11:57,340 --> 01:11:57,578
Twitter.

2019
01:11:59,244 --> 01:12:01,760
It's that tireless promotion of the game that

2020
01:12:02,198 --> 01:12:04,911
makes him a natural candidate for the hall

2021
01:12:04,911 --> 01:12:05,151
fame.

2022
01:12:06,827 --> 01:12:08,683
In a world where there are

2023
01:12:10,193 --> 01:12:12,264
a lot of inflated egos.

2024
01:12:13,380 --> 01:12:15,770
Matt Savage is refreshing down to Earth as

2025
01:12:15,770 --> 01:12:16,010
well.

2026
01:12:16,726 --> 01:12:17,226
His

2027
01:12:17,617 --> 01:12:20,640
genuine kindness and approach ability, make the poker

2028
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:21,674
community feel like...

2029
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:23,742
I don't know, a big family.

2030
01:12:24,713 --> 01:12:27,688
Might be a dysfunctional 1, but family nonetheless.

2031
01:12:29,023 --> 01:12:31,497
Mass savage is a living legend in the

2032
01:12:31,577 --> 01:12:33,987
Poke world and he deserves to be more

2033
01:12:33,987 --> 01:12:36,162
than just a 9 time nominee.

2034
01:12:37,259 --> 01:12:37,759
So

2035
01:12:38,136 --> 01:12:40,530
here's my hope that this is the year.

2036
01:12:41,023 --> 01:12:42,555
He ends up where he belongs

2037
01:12:42,927 --> 01:12:45,546
en ent forever as a hall fame.

2038
01:12:46,894 --> 01:12:48,640
The Poke world needs its savages,

2039
01:12:49,925 --> 01:12:51,355
especially one's named Matt.

2040
01:12:53,421 --> 01:12:55,884
That's today's 1 out, and that's today's show.

2041
01:12:56,361 --> 01:12:57,632
I'll see you next week team,

2042
01:12:58,443 --> 01:12:59,161
And until then,

2043
01:13:00,118 --> 01:13:01,155
I'll see you at the tables.

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01:13:02,271 --> 01:13:04,823
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