Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff National Championship W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Locker Room Boys. It's a sad day. It's a bad day. This is our final show of the season. We'll be talking. We're going to recap our futures, picks Indiana Miami, the national title game. We're going to talk about all that.

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Speaker 1: There's some talks and whispers right now what this show could possibly be next year and on this set right here in other worlds, But we also know that it's the college football landscape.

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Speaker 1: This could be a Kenny Mitchie situation with Josh Pate that we're talking about right now, But neither here nor there the standings, we have a tie going into the championship game, into the national title.

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Speaker 3: Can I just that's just nervous energy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What's on your mind? What are you feeling going into this last episode?

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Speaker 3: A whole lotsh A whole lot part happy, part sad, part anger, part bittersweet. But the first thing I'm thinking, since we're on the spirit of this is our last show of the season is I really feel bad for people who are finding the show for the first time, because our numbers have grown every week, so you know, statistically, there's someone who just happened upon this video. They're like, wait, I like this show, hopefully, Wait, this thing's been going on all year. I don't get most of the inside jokes. I don't know why I haven't watched this all year. Think about what they missed. They missed. They missed the whole Nebraska thing. They missed they always missed the Nebraska thing. They missed the coaching search carousel. They missed the whole Michigan.

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Speaker 2: They missed the bus and Bowl.

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Speaker 3: They did miss the buss and Bowl. They missed the Fall Don't Lie Tour. They missed one of the one of the most like down to the wire pickchases that we've had in recent memory, because we've only had one on the show, because we've only had one version of the show. So hey, it's gonna be a long spring. I would encourage people to go back and watch the previous shows.

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Speaker 2: That's great. You know, the biggest thing they missed camaraderie.

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Speaker 1: Vibes, friendship, yeah, trench warfare, seeing energy, feeling energy, feeling like they're a part of the energy.

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Speaker 3: What they missed is love.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that one feeling you get as a small child when your mom you're cold, comes to you and what wraps a little blanket around you. That's the feeling that this show is willing to give you a weekend and week out, and.

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Speaker 3: Then you don't get it again until you do a college football YouTube show decades later.

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Speaker 2: Or.

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Speaker 1: Until somebody tells you they're zooming in from their hotel at two thirty in the morning, and that right there, that's a good feeling something'd be missing out on. What does Willy C mean by that?

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Speaker 2: Here's the good news. That is the good news if this is the first time somebody is watching the show. Luckily there's enough drama to happen in this show, because Josh Pate's name was thrown in an absolute blender on Bustle with the Boys' most recent episode.

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Speaker 3: With Josh Payton not on the bus, with Josh Pyton on the there was a JP there to defend me, but it was not me.

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Speaker 2: Yep, all right, go ahead, I would like to give I don't have I was in Vegas, fighting for my life. I would love for both of you to have the floor. I can sit back as a third party if I need to mediate anything what happened. If JP wasn't there, all I'm saying is it could have been catastrophic, not only for you two, but for us as well, because there was a there was a painting being illustrated by one individual that I thought to myself, Oh my God, and the words came out of my mouth, is Josh Pate for the boys?

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Speaker 3: And I called you Judas on the internet?

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Speaker 2: Did you so I may take.

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Speaker 3: It plural of Judas?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you said that publicly.

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Speaker 3: I asked what the plural of Judas is, which implied that I was kind of labeling both of you. But it's not closed. I wrote that in pencil, not penn So I am prepared to have it out now. I have a grin on my face. William has a grin on his face. Those are the kind of grins you have when you think morally you're in the right. Both of us think we're in the right. Okay, I'm willing to I'm going to defer. I'm willing to take the ball.

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Speaker 2: Second won the toss.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, may I add both of us think we're morally in the right, and we also understand the other side.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to go as far as to say I understand your side yet.

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Speaker 2: That was the first olive branch. That was the first dollar branch that was swatted away from one Justice brother. Hey, you can't get a time outcess earlier we just said the coin toss. You just got the kick. He's the first play of the game. We're wasting one.

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Speaker 1: This is Michigan today, So you're telling me that for everybody at home listening, we're playing it out. This trip to hit both semifinal.

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Speaker 2: Games Crystal Ball, we have.

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Speaker 3: It our way.

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Speaker 2: It's Burger King. We fly to Arizona. We watched that game.

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Speaker 1: We sleep in Arizona, take our time, get some breakfast in Arizona, get out to have some zips in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Know that we get all the time in the world.

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Speaker 1: Make it out to Atlanta for the Peach Bowl that started at what seven thirty Eastern something like this.

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Speaker 2: Of no officials, time out, official time out. You can't lose the toss, go on offense, call a timeout, and then just start running plays. The timeout is for me to have a moment to talk. We're playing. That's that, that's the game. You guys are in the middle of it right now. You're essentially running your first drop. So what you want in and stop and no, no, no, you're good. It's just your time out. It's no longer a timeout. We're in it now.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I haven't flinched two or three fall starts on the opening drive already for.

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Speaker 2: Not understanding the rule, for just not in the middle of a conference. I'm like, hey, let's let's try to explain something to me. I'm like, so do I or you want me to keep going? We go, Hey, let's talk about it, and he goes time out, starts talking about it, thinking wait, no, no, we're we are in the lines right now. The game is happening. So your timeouts gone. We're in it now.

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Speaker 3: I don't make the rules. I don't know the rules.

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Speaker 2: I'm the official. I'm making them up as I go. Yep, So what's the next Your timeout is gone? You want to talk about it? Go ahead, you're talking about crystal ball right now. Carry on. Also, you're backed up. It's first and twenty, so crystal ball.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of how we would operate the trip we're trying to enjoy go to the college football Playoffs semifinals. However, something came into play. Josh Pate had to be in it Land to broadcast zoom whatever from the stadium Mercedes Bans. You had to be in the semifinal, in the atmosphere, in the environment calling into get up to do your hits, Get up first, take all of.

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Speaker 3: It early in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Early in the morning. No problem with that. So we had to figure out a way to fly.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we gotta fly out from Arizona on Thursday night to get their land Friday morning. Gonna be a grind, gonna land it two three in the morning. But we're doing it because the boy has the boy, Josh pat has an obligation. That's why we're doing so. As we're flying in land, go to the game in Arizona, land in Atlanta and it's two thirty in the morning, and you drop a bomb of I just got a zoom in from my hotel room. It doesn't have to be on site in Atlanta. Fireworks go might hang on a second. So then why did we have to? But I didn't want to jump to conclusion. I'm like, so when did you know this information? And you say you knew it on the way to Arizona. So optically we could have we could have switched uff around and stayed in Arizona and not left the Miami Oh Miss game early, and.

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Speaker 2: I would have met ray Lewis.

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Speaker 3: Your bladder kept you from meeting ray Lewis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what.

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Speaker 1: So that is where the understanding If you're sitting there in your chair thinking you're morally right, but you can't understand this side of the situation of be it for the boys. We could have switched some planes up and at some fun in Arizona. It took our time to get out of Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: I can't help you.

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Speaker 2: First drives over. Let me just step in for a second official time out again. This is what happens. But there's not another JP to come and defend you right now because this is this is the exact tone that was taking place on the bus. But you now before go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 2: I love you too, man, So my tweet yesterday this.

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Speaker 3: Is my time now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, that's a warning. You gotta pick it up. I like, get up, so many different new rules at me.

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Speaker 2: Right, buddy, you just you had your top fifteen plays. You haven't ran one of them yet.

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Speaker 1: I scored on the opening drive like that was it was New England Patriots the other week three, Nebraska's the best three win team of all time.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm even going to bolster your argument. That's how that's how sure I am that I'm in the moral right here. Back up six weeks ish. We're doing it up in New York. We're on a very tight timetable because you got to get back, because you've got to be somewhere at one fifteen in the afternoon. Do you remember this? Yes, And our plan is we're off air at what ten o'clock in the morning. We're out of there by ten ten. We already got the escape route. They're holding the freight elevator for us. And then at like nine to fifty five, someone comes over from the first take studio and they ask, can they get me for twenty more minutes, which may very well push our landing time back to where you miss your family obligation. What did you say?

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Speaker 2: I was hesitant? I was I was totally thinking about myself. Yeah, yes, yes, we can do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah without hesitation. Let the record show without hesitation, I said, yes, anything for you. So there is president already this year where you guys have been over backwards to help me out because it was a very, very great career opportunity for me, and I was appreciative of that, right all right, So this would not have even been the first time that you have put me over you. Selfless friendship, it's what it's all about, right, absolutely, Okay, what would you do if you were in my position and you knew that we're going to try and go to both games dream scenario knock out two playoff games in an ideal world in your crystal ball were on the field for those games. But I digress. I digress. We're at the games, and the producers, the producers from Get Up and or First Take, doesn't matter which show. They say, you're gonna be in Atlanta Friday morning. Yeah, I think I will be in Atlanta Friday morning. Let's get you from the venue. Let's get you over there. You're gonna be a couple of blocks away. Let's get you from the venue. But then it goes back and forth throughout the week. Now you didn't know this because this didn't really concern you. So I was just trying to deal with them. So first off, it starts with it you are going to be there, Then you're not gonna be there all right. Then it changes back to you are going to be there, right. So we've already had some ping pong back and forth, little production uncertainty. And then I tell JP, because we do have to plan for these things. Hotel rooms have to be booked, flights have to be changed. I tell him, can we get out of Arizona? Can we get to Atlanta? It's all agreed upon. Then on the flight out there, it's still really really wobbly, it's really uncertain. And then they say, hey, looks for now like we're going to zoom you. We're just gonna go zoom. I'm thinking, in the back of my mind morally, this may not be done. This may not be the last time they switched this up. We've already got everything booked. This is you're a kid. Your goldfish died while you were at band camp, and your parents flushed him down the toilet and they told you that he went to heaven. What you don't know won't hurt you as a kid. I'm figuring at that point you've already resigned yourself in your mind that you flew from New York to Nashville. Now you got a Nashville to Phoenix. Now you just know you're going to go to Phoenix to Atlanta. You've already girded your loins up mentally, you're zoned in, You're prepared for it. It won't hurt you if I don't tell you. Plus they may switch it back up on me at the last minute. So I have told them I'm going to be in Atlanta. I'm going to be in Atlanta. All's well. We do have to leave the game early, which I will admit sucked, and I hate that and.

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Speaker 2: Created for some funny moments like when we got on the plane.

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Speaker 3: Any yep, yep, thank you, and you missed your shot with Ray Lewis and Michael Phelps and I hate that, although I take zero responsibility for it, but I hate it. And we fly and we watch Parson Beck win the game. So it was a very very colorful ride. And then you may take a little twenty minute nap. Not me because my seat wouldn't recline, but everyone else is able to take a nap. We eat some sushi, the only meal that we ate period on the trip was eaten together, contrary to popular belief, on another show that airs about thirty seven feet from us. Right now, Yeah, can I.

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Speaker 2: Tak an official time out?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's back up a bit to last week when it's you're going to be at the venue, you're not going to be at the venue. You may zoom, you may not zoom. At any point, did you communicate this to Will Compton?

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Speaker 3: I communicated it to Clump.

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Speaker 2: Oh that because as he's telling a story that's a tackle for loss sac right there.

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Speaker 3: But didn't I document that? Didn't I just say that like I was in pretty constant communication with Clump. No, no, no, no, I was talking to Clump about travel. No, JP just defended my honor.

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Speaker 2: At at any point, did you communicate me Will that, Hey, it could be from the venue, it couldnot be from the venue.

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Speaker 4: Josh, I love you.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: When I told him, I told him I had to do it from the venue.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, I booked it. We were going to land and stay in Arizona. And then when I called Josh and let him know what my understanding was, he said, oh, that's not going to work, because I was going to do it live from Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this point is at the point where we had originally agreed let's do it from Venue. Then maybe we're going to zoom you. No, let's do it from Venue. This point right here got you.

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Speaker 2: This is when I'm talking. Yeah, yes, did you.

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Speaker 4: I never knew that it wasn't gonna be then till because I asked you on the ride there, what time you were gonna be live from the stadium.

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Speaker 3: And now we arrive in Atlanta. It's neon blue in the van, it's raining, it's two thirty in the morning. Window. He's staring, he's he's is that Mars? Is that Venus? Like, he's got that look in his eye. He's staring off in his face and he's asleep, but his I are wide open. And somebody asked, I think JP said, we're gonna come with you to the stadium in the morning. What time are you gonna leave? We may just we may not even go to sleep. We're gonna come over there with you. And I said, we're just gonna do it the hotel room. I tried to say it. I tried to say it's under my breath. I tried to say it, and then this happens right here. I'm looking out the window of the van. Hold on, hold, you don't have to be at the venue.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: We could have been in Arizona. We could have gone to sleep, and at that point you can just you could laugh, and you could hope it makes for good content. Do you really want to state your entire case that takes fifteen minutes in a van at two thirty in the morning. No one's gonna remember it anyway. So I just decided to laugh it off, send him an edible arrangement or something later, and we'll we'll just call it even. But what hurt me the most, and this is out of my control, what hurt me the most was the next morning. I didn't know how deep it had cut you until I saw the video of you guys eating breakfast basically across the street from me. And I'm on the TV clearly in my hotel room, and you're standing there. Watch buddy tear Yeah what else? Partially from laughing, partially from just empathy rolled down my face.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching him on first take, seeing the hotel background. Dude just zooming in from his hotel room in Atlanta. Because all I'm thinking as I'm hearing a story, the said, well, look, brotherhood isn't perfection, But when you communicate with each other and you know that you might be stuck in a situation, it fellas I'm just gonna get this out of the way right now. I might not have to be at the venue tomorrow, but they've been so wishy washy, I don't know if I'm gonna have to be there or not for in case we think that we might want to stay in Arizona, we still got to go still need to go to Atlantic because.

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Speaker 2: I have no clue at ESPN's thinking right there the bags passed.

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Speaker 1: You communicated like there's no there's no car, there's no feeling you have in your body when you're trying to whisper.

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Speaker 2: It under your breath, like I'm just zooming in tomorrow because what.

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Speaker 1: You felt in that moment when you're saying that answer, You're like, Okay, I gotta unleashing a line from its cage.

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Speaker 3: I got to tell him the goldfish is dead. I got to tell him he didn't feed the goldfish. It died. I was having to do that thing where JP sitting behind you. So I'm having to talk past your ear, hoping your zoom.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the window, just staring at the stars, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: Wait, looking back on it, I might have sent the time out, like time out.

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Speaker 3: It took so long for you to stop looking out the window was what got me.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny because it's exactly how I told the story. Looking back on it, would you have communicated differently?

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Speaker 3: I think looking back with all the information I have now, when they originally switched it from stadium to zoom, I would have said, let's just keep it like that because that was two days. Maybe that was before you and I talked about booking, so we would have been able to book however we wanted to. We would have been able to stay out there. We would have seen Carson Beck do his thing in person. We would have seen Mario rage out on the field. Afterwards, we would have seen the past interference called life. Who knows, Maybe you meet Ray Lewis in the postgame.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we're hitting the dance together. I don't want to belt off with Michael Irvin.

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Speaker 3: I do want to say one thing, Like the viewers of the bus were led to believe that it ripped your heart out, not to be able to spend an extra day in Arizona, like you have such affection and such love for Arizona. I don't want to use the words you used when we were on our final approach into land. But first off, Clump finds out it snows in Arizona because he called it and I quote fake snow from the air. So he finds that out. And then ever we saw this all like a crater from an asteroid. We're learning all sorts of things about theography of Arizona. You're basically running the Arizona Tourism Bureau. On the plane, you do everything, but you have the spinner in your mouth. You're looking like a bus tour You had some commentary on the state of Arizona, which led.

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Speaker 2: Me to believe that by the way, that wasn't cool.

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Speaker 3: You led me to believe it was no big deal to you, Like, hey, first bus out of here, I'm on it. I didn't really think it was a big gu I thought I was doing you a favor.

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Speaker 2: You treated Laura Atlanta. I's how you were treating Arizona. I'm trying to tell everybody how great of a state Arizona is, where it's located. All the things you can go do out of nowhere, will goes Man Arizona and shit, he.

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Speaker 3: Didn't even say Arizona. He just said azy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was doing one of the things where I'm looking out the window.

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing Taylor whole court on how incredible Arizona is, and I'm just like, I have just a grin going on in my brain, like I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just gonna throw out that. You know, Arizona sucks. Bro, you're talking about sounds like a weekend of hurt. Sounds like everybody was kind of about to get each other this weekend. Could have communicated better. Wild random shot at me being excited about my home state. That's just ball busting, bro. Oh yeah, right, yeah, that's just ball.

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Speaker 1: Whenever the moment came up and the two thirty thing came up, because I'm like assuming because again what he hoped happened, Like I didn't hear what he said.

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Speaker 2: I think JP might have just told me what what Josh said. Isn't that what happened? JP? You might have like tapped me. Josh doesn't have to be it.

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Speaker 1: But I want to say somebody might have like, hey, do you hear what Josh said, but it was something like that. But either way, it's like perfect opportunity for ball busting because I like the feeling he was explaining that he was trying to like have it under his breath.

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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, yeah, we're doing Yeah, we're gonna do it from the hotel room. And then we had to walk home in the rain. We did pouring down rain after the game, which was a splattering and we get out of there. And now the good news is we got home before midnight, so that's nice. Yeah, the bad news is signidium was Dan Lanning bad news. You guys had a couple of moments pre game. I saw it on the flog. You had a couple of moments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were one that we were gonna post on social and landing walk by in the tunnel and he like looked at me and he was like doing this. But by the time the caption was put together and Clump showed it to me pick six, I was like, hey.

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Speaker 2: Put that away. Let's not put that out. So just to put a bow on this conversation will started this way. You both start with years are on opposite sides. You're about to go to and do a fight, play a football game, meats each other, will goes in and says, I believe that we both believe we're right. However, we can see the other side, and you said, I'll speak for myself. I don't see it that way right now. How do you feel at the end of this whole entire conversation.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine that if I would woke up in New York and I had to do a show, and then I had to go pick up someone in Nashville, and then I had to go to Arizona, as bad as it may suck, and then I had to leave Arizona, and then I found out at two thirty in the morning, after you've been up what twenty four straight hours?

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Speaker 2: Something like that.

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Speaker 3: I can imagine I may rage out a little bit. Internally, I wouldn't show it. I keep a strong poker face. I can imagine that would do something to me. Now, would I be mad at me? Would I be mad at ESPN? Who's to say? Does it even matter at this point? No, it really doesn't, So I guess maybe morally I found some middle ground.

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Speaker 2: I love you such a really such a.

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Speaker 3: Glaud of friends.

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Speaker 2: Again, it's beautiful but honestly, I'll just talk to you guys like Josh Paate really just took no accountability.

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Speaker 3: And I told Will.

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Speaker 2: I still feel the same way. Your emotions are yours, and I'll shake your hand. And Will took that. It was like, we're all good now because I know, I know I saw that all go down, and we'll goes. I fucking love you. You say I could see it from Will's side. You're like, I can never say it. Why Will is mad because all the things he had to go through.

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Speaker 3: But really I didn't say his name specifically, I just said someone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And secondly, in the vlog, I thought the most poignant moment was next morning, you guys are in the restaurant eat breakfast, and you're just you're just talking to the camera and you're airing out all your grievances and you say, Pay's not even here right now. If he was here right now, I probably don't dropped some philosophical quote on me.

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Speaker 2: I not agree with it, and I'm taking a couple more days. Still got that all done. We feel good about that. Yeah, I know I know his heart.

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Speaker 1: And he said even though he was like I don't understand the side and then when he says he if he'd go back, he'd communicate like that's all I needed to hear.

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Speaker 3: We got a couple of reek.

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Speaker 2: If the question ever came up, if someone ever asked, is Josh Pate for the boys? Is it one hundred percent in your head? Yeah, how he is one hundred percent. Josh pay would never hurt the boys, without question. He's for the boys. That's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I just need to shake your hand again. Very unselfish friend here, and to prove it, I'm gonna take you guys on a little adventure this spring. That's all I want to say. Right now.

00:26:07
Speaker 2: I want to say, right.

00:26:08
Speaker 3: Now, that's all I want to say.

00:26:09
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for that. That's gonna be so much fun. Stay tuned, Stay tuned.

00:26:13
Speaker 3: And I said, we may not come back from several predictions this year, but what I'm taking you on, we literally may not come back. That's what makes it fun.

00:26:21
Speaker 2: And just like when I was in college and playing football, if I don't come back, it's a good life.

00:26:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I would have wanted to go.

00:26:28
Speaker 2: That's how I would have wanted to go. Let's talk with these future picks, all right, do you want to start with just going conference by conference, Heisman National Championship, or do you want to just look at the records right away?

00:26:38
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00:27:42
Speaker 3: Episode, man, I don't know if I want to do any.

00:27:46
Speaker 2: There's another option. You guys watch Lame Man.

00:27:51
Speaker 3: Boy Buddy.

00:27:52
Speaker 2: But we had a whole conversation on the plane about lamb Man and now it's not up to snuff this second season. I'm still watch it. Okay, what's going on? Did this last week turn around for you?

00:28:04
Speaker 3: Can I just say there were some text conversations happening deep into the night about this this dude right here. I don't care if you don't even host it with anyone. It's just you stream of consciousness. If you latch onto a show, let's say it's Land, Man, I would listen to a ten part podcast series of you just airing your thoughts, because, like, if you're vocalizing what I read last night several paragraphs, not even wait for a response, He's just hey, you mind listening? For a second. I got some stuff to say about land Man, I would listen to that.

00:28:37
Speaker 2: I'll look into it. Yeah we did, we will. Did we go back and forth? I mean I said yeah, I was right on off a lot of that ways.

00:28:49
Speaker 1: Like he said something to sparked the conversation because I updated him on the news that we learned about yesterday.

00:28:57
Speaker 2: And we can't share on the show.

00:29:00
Speaker 1: Josh texted me at yesterday nine to twenty three, please advise when you've watched a Laman this week. First text back, I need Grandpa to take down the new PT and then I just started to rattle off, you know my thoughts on the show.

00:29:17
Speaker 3: I didn't disagree with him.

00:29:18
Speaker 2: Did this and that last week do anything for us? Because when we sat there, I'm like four weeks behind. I think I watched the first episode of season two.

00:29:24
Speaker 3: It did the worst thing ever. It made you think the next episode could do something for you.

00:29:29
Speaker 2: Yes, damn, I'm gonna have to jump on.

00:29:32
Speaker 1: And a massive side story that again has nothing to do with the main storyline, but could gain that could could garner a certain.

00:29:40
Speaker 2: Audience to be excited about what was happening in the sun right kind of like stranger Things is, so what does that here? We go hold time? So what does Lambman have to do with our futures? Picks?

00:29:54
Speaker 1: They're just thinking about. I don't want this show to I don't want this season to end. I just want to hang with the boys. And I know when we get to the football aspect of it, the football portion, it's over.

00:30:02
Speaker 2: It's gonna be over. Yeah, all rights, what do you got with my picks? No?

00:30:09
Speaker 1: I was just curious if people have been watching Landman so we could talk about some Landman.

00:30:13
Speaker 2: Did you end up what you watched?

00:30:14
Speaker 3: The Yeah, I got I got thoughts separate from yours that I won't use because they really are spoilers, But I got some thoughts. We'll offline it.

00:30:22
Speaker 2: That's that's the hard part is we're talking.

00:30:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'd be talking about it now and it's only been a few days since it's been out.

00:30:27
Speaker 2: Can I answ this this side this side story that has nothing to do with the main story, but you could see can you see the side story colliding with the main storyline somehow someway?

00:30:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess somehow some way. But they could have done it differently. They just the the main the main story of the entire show, with like loi or oil cartel, war negotiations, all this stuff. Yeah, it's only in bits and pieces throughout the episode. The rest is filled up with nonsense. It was like the mom and daughter and the Old People's Home. I think Grandpa's getting shown quite a bit. I do love his one liners. He's got some good philosophical takes.

00:31:06
Speaker 2: Grandpa's the guy that sits there every night in the wheelchair and looks out. He's just watching the sunset. Yeah, yeah, and now he's now he's at the house moving minute dad.

00:31:14
Speaker 1: I love seeing the bridging of the gap between dad and son that storyline. But a lot of it, it's like, say, it's a fifty minute show. Forty minutes of it is some of these side stories that you don't care for.

00:31:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're they're funny.

00:31:28
Speaker 1: They might make you laugh, but once they once it's ran its course a few times, it's like, Okay, what are we doing while we build out an entire plot around.

00:31:33
Speaker 3: It's like someone showed up said, we got ten fifty minute episodes to fill. We've got about two episodes worth of meat here. What do we do? And someone in the back, said leave it to me, and then they just threw a bunch of fat in there with me.

00:31:46
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, wife, daughter, old folks home.

00:31:49
Speaker 3: My advice to you was, watched the show on one point seven to five speed.

00:31:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my first advice. This kind of sucks because he's been talking about Will is always big on like a multiple multitude of shows. When Landman came up and I was sitting there with my wife, I think a week or two before the second season came out, and I was like, we should put this on. I heard it's great, and we flew through that first season and it was I I, I am so excited. We waited till now to watch it because the second season starts like in four to five days from now. And then I watched the first episode. I like to lean back and kind of binge a little bit. And then when I check in with Will three weeks ago, my hands, anything happened in Landman, He's like, not really, And then we have the conversation on the plane going to Arizona, and you guys had your whole takes on. Basically, what we're talking about now is like there's not a lot of ass behind the show. It's really just a lot of fat you could cut off. It's a mass in the show bang show. Wow that's true. Oh wow, but hey that right though, He's right, like you can't get but this has been one episode true and we're really just prolonging this finale of Is Josh and Taylor going to pick different teams going into the National Championship.

00:32:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one wants to go home.

00:33:00
Speaker 2: No one wants to go home. We enjoy it that the last.

00:33:03
Speaker 3: Show of the tour. No one wants to go home.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: By the way, a great zinger over there, budget demon that was a little un Is the truth the truth? A truth doesn't care about feelings. Futures picks.

00:33:20
Speaker 1: I look at the futures picks saying, and for everybody at home that can see this car, there's only one green highlighted.

00:33:25
Speaker 2: There's only one green high Yeah the whole sheet. Taylor won in five Willow and six Josh.

00:33:32
Speaker 3: This is for conference winners, tho.

00:33:34
Speaker 2: Winters, Heisman Winter National Champion, which I do take pride in this National Champion pick because got graphic. They came out last week with all the sports media figures and there's only one individual that's still there was wive in the hunt, knowing that you had anything I knew, Like, damn it, if I go back, I neither. Yeah, but I'm kind of happy because then it wouldn't be what we have right now, which is too tied. Two individuals tied going to the national championship.

00:34:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how I looked at it that graphic, I'm a year away. I was a year off with Josh in that graphic though.

00:34:12
Speaker 3: Can you read him off?

00:34:14
Speaker 2: Uh So the national champion, Taylor had Oregon.

00:34:16
Speaker 1: He's and he was speaking about the on three graphics that went out with all the college football personalities and the teams that they picked.

00:34:21
Speaker 2: He was the only one that had a team left, which was Oregon in the semi final.

00:34:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had Texas and you had Alabama, Suppress Price.

00:34:29
Speaker 3: Indiana, Oregon, Ole, miss Miami. Yeah. Reasonably. At the beginning of the season, the only one of those teams anyone that I know of would have picked would have been Oregon. The other three no one would have picked, right.

00:34:42
Speaker 2: Right, Maybe Indiana second because they know the playoffs last year.

00:34:45
Speaker 1: I never saw anyone, you think, not with Ohio State, say like Michigan hadn't played.

00:34:50
Speaker 2: The season yet.

00:34:51
Speaker 3: The top five preseason. Remember that, and Indiana has got to go to Penn State. Don't forget what you know now.

00:34:59
Speaker 2: And I love that she said that because Penn State people that want to hate him in state now like that roster is still a top ten roster in college.

00:35:04
Speaker 3: Football and was perceived to be top five. I mean, haters of Penn State were ranking them number eight preseason. Yeah, so so Indiana had to go to Penn State, had to go to Oregon. Plus, you got this whole idea in your mind that man, now everyone's on to them. They're on everyone's radar. Certainly, you got sophomore slump potential, you got complacency. Now we know better, but you couldn't have known better at the beginning of the season. So I didn't see a single person pick Indiana to win the national title. I didn't see a single person.

00:35:32
Speaker 2: On the topic of Indiana. A lot of conspiracy theories on the internet right.

00:35:35
Speaker 3: Now, Oh there is you know how the internet is.

00:35:40
Speaker 2: They go crazy, Hey, and Indiana people are saying that they're hacking catapult. Mark Cuban Big Investors is the owner you put the pinfoil hat on. We're just putting a tinfoil hat on right now.

00:35:54
Speaker 1: Marks an owner in Catapult. Catapults is the technology that a lot of college football teams.

00:35:59
Speaker 2: You to watch film, break down plays, give coaches notes, track guys and how fast running, how much they're putting out from a vo two met all. Yeah, and Mark Cuban, who's an alumni of Indiana, he owns that company or is an investor in that company.

00:36:18
Speaker 3: Do you know if there's any truth to this, Josh B I personally don't know if there's any truth to this. I can tell you there are some people that believe there's truth to it. However, I've told every single one of them show me, and no one has shown me anything. Certainly, if you do to the college football world what Indiana has done, it's going to rub some people the wrong way because you're out of your place. Your place is to serve up a win to us. All of a sudden, you're not doing that anymore, and you look way better than we think you should be able to look. So instead of crediting you, we're going to be suspicious. I got no problem with that, because I'm a little skeptical about things in life as well. How are they doing that? How are they getting that good so quick? They're less talented than this team. How are they running circles around them? Got no problem with that. I'm going to stop well short of just baselessly throwing out claims. But these people haven't stopped short. So I've asked like half a dozen people that we're talking about whose opinions I at least somewhat respect. Some of them are outright in the coaching industry, so I've said to every one of them, you got any proof of it? It's all speculation. It's all speculation to this point. So what I'm going to do is until otherwise notified, I'm going to laugh in people's face about it until I'm showed evidence. Right, That's all I can do.

00:37:34
Speaker 2: You need to be on the wrong side of that. One of my favorite things to do in early twenty twenty six is to go on x formally known as Twitter and get on these spaces and with all the transfer portal stuff going on, I have like these, you know, one percenter Michigan Wolverine fan bases that start these spaces and they kind of break down the day of how the transfer portal went and stuff like that. And I've jumped in probably half a dozen of these. At some point you can go on, you can just show you, you can show hey, it's me in here, and I do. And every time we get into a conversation and I jumped in last night, they're breaking down Snowden and French and these guys who got in the transferport. Everyone's really excited for French. They are saying we're a national championship contender. I kind of fall back a little bit, like boys, we got to see some development, see how good these coaches really are. But the topic comes up about Indiana, and all these Michigan guys are just screaming like they've already john a line the sand. These guys are cheaters. And I let them go for about thirty seconds before I hit them with the Will Compton looking out the bus. Hold on, hold on, hold on, give me time I go. If there's any fan base that should probably fall back about about this, it's probably us. Let's just let's sit back for a second, like, well, we didn't do anything on my boys. Lay, I'll hold that flag forever. However, three years ago, two and a half years ago, the same conversations happy with Michigan and there's a lot lot more evidence around that than there is run India. Wow, maybe we should just kind of fall back to which they were like fuck that cheeks, and I realized I love these group of boys. Yeah. I can't wait to go to ann Arbor for a game next year. Hopefully the Fall don't lie to hers there. We're there and I have a couple of guys that I can't recognize it all with their faces, but they say, Hey, you've been in my Space and we're like boys just because that George Kittle and guys guys be in his dms, and then you go to parties that he host kittle Fest and they're like, oh, how do you know George? We just DMed him one day and we became boys. That's what I'm hoping happens throughout my space's journey.

00:39:38
Speaker 3: Wow.

00:39:39
Speaker 1: I shake a dude and he's like, I'm like, so, how do you know Tailor? He's like, I'm the the what is it? The Bryce Unleashed?

00:39:47
Speaker 2: It seems like he's the leader of the group. He's always going on the spaces and it's so funny to go through their timelines and to watch them be like Bryce absolutely sucks and then like three hours later, it's like this kid's going to be elite and they just live that. Everything is just so emotional, and I love to be a part of it because you really understand the fan base when you do that. I suggest anybody out there, especially u JP, like there's a couple of spaces for South Carolina, just go in there and just enjoy the conversation. It is fun, man, it's a good time. But this is telling me that we sucked at our futures.

00:40:21
Speaker 3: Who didn't.

00:40:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna get this because I do believe that you're national champion. I have a suspicion that is gonna be the same as same next year as it is this year.

00:40:30
Speaker 3: You really think so you think I was a year two early.

00:40:33
Speaker 2: No, I think you're gonna believe you're a year too early to where Alabama pay comes back out.

00:40:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, should I let my dad make my picks for me?

00:40:44
Speaker 2: You let your dad make your picks. Like, who's the new quarterback for Alabama? Keilan Russell. He's gonna start. Everybody's telling me how great that kid is. He'll win the Heisman, not.

00:40:54
Speaker 3: Even in the Heisman odds on fendor.

00:40:56
Speaker 2: Right now, Alabama won the SE's champion, Alabama won the Big twelve champion. Your dad will pick all of them for every time.

00:41:01
Speaker 1: I've been seeing stuff too in the Alabama world about spending in ANIL or kind of like they're not keeping up with the times or the elite of the elite because they've always handed they've always just handled it conservatively, and it's just a it's just a new age. And I don't know, I'm sitting there listening to these guys, I can't remember their names, but they're kind of talking about, you know, the Bama nil, the portal, the spending that goes on the position that Bama uses that they think is leverage, but it's actually not leverage. It hurts them because they're not trying to keep up with all the biggest spenders in the conference and trying to kind of get over that hump that every team's trying to get over of like hating in IL or resisting in IL, or feeling like you can do it a certain way and still and still win it all, which I mean, I guess you can, but I just didn't expect a team like Alabama to hear fan base talking like that.

00:41:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, the SEC is so interesting to me because like they've obviously been so dominant forever and now this is the third national championship where they're no SEC team cannot win next year though, and Paul Finbaum even goes on live TV and says the Big Ten is the superior conference to the SEC. I'm not sure what happened, but he's basically putting a full indictment in the entire SEC right now. What do you think the issue is?

00:42:14
Speaker 3: Severalfold number one? The Big Ten's allowed to try too, So you could just have that there's somewhat of a cyclical nature of football. You could have that the NIO has changed the top of the tallest trees, or both of those things could be true. I think there's like a layer. It's not the top layer, but that there's a sub layer that the SEC for so long had an edge talent wise, that they knew they roll out of bed every morning. Then they have it not so much because they're great, but because of what geography was in college football, because the SEC was willing to do stuff under the table that the rest of college football wasn't willing to do. You're basically paying kids to stay home, like it's not the toughest proposition in the world to convince a kid from Tuscumbia, Alabama to play as football in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, or like Clarksville to go play in Athens, Georgia. So I think they got a little lazy in the way they hire staffing. It's just a theory I'm working on. I can ever prove this, but I think they understood it may be hoove us to hire recruiters over coaches in the SEC, because that's really our lifeblood. We need to maintain this massive talent edge on the rest of college football. Therefore, we don't need to win on the margins. We don't need to squeeze the sponge a little harder to get a few more drops out Like University of Illinois Iowa. They got to do that. We're Florida, We're LSU. We don't have to do that. So then the sport didn't change gradually. It changed pretty quickly. Over the last five years. It's changed pretty radically. And I think the SEC got caught with its pants down. And I also think the SEC got caught with buildings full of people that probably are seventy five percent of what may be in those big ten buildings from a pure standpoint of football acumen, an ability to coach, and ability to develop because for so long in the SEC they knew we need to be C plus or B minus in those areas, we'll be fine. Athletes will just win for us. There's any one thing like, yeah, you could say NIL changed things, which it did, but you got to get more specific on what it changed. And then from the SEC's viewpoint, okay, well then let's get specific on whether that's permanent. Is this just cyclical? Does this come back around? Because like I grew up watching pro wrestling, huge fan of it, like in the late nineties, as every kid my age was all right, so you got WWF. It's on top for a long time, and then Ted Turner invests in WCW and then it blows up, and then WWF takes a back seat for like eighty two weeks in a row. They get beaten the Monday Night ratings. Then Stone called Steve Auston emerges and then they retake the throne. But from that point forward it wasn't cyclical. WCW just died and it never was again. So like, how does college football look? Is it just back and forth, jockeying for position, or did Nil really just do something that permanently alters the landscape. I would imagine that's not true, but you never know. My crystal ball doesn't see that far in the future. I love a good wrestling analogy always.

00:44:57
Speaker 1: I was a big WCW fan, Nitro guy I was. I was Bill Goldberg when Sting came over, Paul Cogan came over. Now, as soon as you see the documentary with Vince McMahon, which one the one where it's it's essentially talking about all the doings like when WWF was taking the back seat, everything that you explain on Like I'm remembering that documentary with Vince McMahon.

00:45:21
Speaker 3: It's a fascinating period of time.

00:45:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ted what's his name, Ted Turner.

00:45:27
Speaker 3: Owned the Atlanta Braves. That's what That's why I knew Ted Turner. He owned the Atlanta Braves because he.

00:45:31
Speaker 1: Was also a wrestler in WCW, like him owning it right, Yeah, he owned WCW.

00:45:37
Speaker 3: He owned Turner so TBS, T and T all of those things. And he used that ownership of T and T to get into the wrestling business and then give his brand WCW a primetime spot on Monday Night to go head to head with WWF. Until that point, they were running unopposed on Monday Night. You got two hour block of time on USA Network on Monday Night. And then all of a sudden, Ted Turner or a billionaire comes into the room and says, I think I'm going to get in the wrestling business, and since I own a network, I'm going to give my brand two hours of primetime TV on Monday Night. No, by the way, we're gonna go live where his WWF was just taped at that point, and then we're gonna start giving away their results on our live show to disenfranchised viewers from turning over to WWF program. It was lethal all war.

00:46:25
Speaker 2: He was like, I'm going to join the show. He was became a wrestler. He was an actual wrestler who owned a network company. Yeah. I took WCW and said, I'm gonna make you guys the biggest in the show.

00:46:36
Speaker 1: Hey, this guy NA joined the joined the show. This guy in the but was joining the show. She's like NW he was part of nWo.

00:46:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember that. White Eric Bishop not like a part of it.

00:46:49
Speaker 1: Like he's one of the founders, but you know, just in it from his position going in and.

00:46:52
Speaker 2: Out of the world.

00:46:53
Speaker 3: Listen.

00:46:54
Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember him as like a he was wrestling.

00:46:56
Speaker 3: That's pro wrestling, that's all make believe. Head Turner named himself manager of the Atlanta Braves for a game in the eighties, and then Major League Baseball had to step in and say, that's not happening. So this guy in a real legit sport, one of the big four sports, said I own the team, why can't I be the manager? And then Major League Baseball had to step in and say, cause you just can't, you gotta, you gotta retire. Yeah, so he was one game manager and then he he I don't even know if he won, but he hung up the whistles.

00:47:27
Speaker 2: Wikipedia's gotta be crazy, all backlas manager in the MLB, pro wrestler, billionaire on a cable a network company. That's This is a world that you, guys, I see both of you guys eyes light up about that. I never was invested in. Ever.

00:47:42
Speaker 3: Here's what fascinates me about it, all right, I think there's so many parallels to what we do to the world we're in. Like I ingest a ton of podcasting about that topic from that era, and I don't even care. If you don't like wrestling, you you can never have watched an episode of pro wrestling in your life. The parallel els to the way the modern digital media ecosystem works so readily correlate with how pro wrestling worked in the late nineties. There's so many lessons to be learned. It just so happens that I also liked wrestling growing up. But even if I didn't, I could listen to that. Can you imagine people saying, we filled this show with fluff and don't talk about college football enough.

00:48:19
Speaker 2: This is just old school podcast. Yeah, that's all it is. All right, Before we get into a True Classic game of the week, I want to talk to you about True Class. You can find True Classic and am at Amazon and Costco, Sam's Club and Target nationwide, or you can go online at True Classic dot com Forward slash Busting. I got the pants on right here. They're hyped up pretty high right now, but I'm telling you they fit great. They got to stretch the elasticity and them look good, feel good, play good. Let's get at the True Classic game of the week. All right, let's talk about Miami. Yeah, this is it, dude. This is the true classic game of the week. Every week's got games. Will we one fit just right? This is the true classic game of the week. We got the National Championship hard Rock Stadium in Miami. In Miami, he's at home, but they are the way team play Indiana. Who's favored by eight and a half. And the total points in that game is forty seven and a half. Right now, you, Josh paid your forty four and forty four. I am forty four and forty four. Will Compton is here as well, and a couple good wins, a couple of good wins. Threats, you had a good showing. Yeah, like that forty and forty eight? What do you call it? Respective respectively? Respectively? Like that's a good that's that's solid. Don't pay your guys, man. Now the light has to be drawn in the sand, because two weeks ago we sat there at talking about the Rose Bowl. Yep, you looked me in the eyes, and I actually looked at you in the eyes and said, if you're so confident about Alabama, take a money line, and would you.

00:49:41
Speaker 3: Say already did you already did?

00:49:44
Speaker 2: And that blew up.

00:49:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I died.

00:49:46
Speaker 2: Now we have another opportunity where Indiana has a win margin of thirty one points. They're now being talked about with the twenty nineteen LSU and some of those Alabama teams, is the best teams to ever be assembled while only having seven blue chip players.

00:50:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is insane, But the talk is happening.

00:50:03
Speaker 2: Why do you think it's insane.

00:50:04
Speaker 3: It's just due. I don't never do the comparative thing. I never compared Barry Bonds and Babe Ruth for the same reasons. But I think that you're talking about teams, whether it's twenty nineteen LSU or twenty twenty Alabama, that would skull drag any team that exists right now Michigan, Yeah, exactly, they would skull drag twenty twenty three Michigan two. So this is only five years ago. That might as well be fifty years ago with the way college football has changed. Okay, And you don't need to do that. You don't need to go down the rist. It's like the Lebron Michael Jordan debate. I just never needed to do it. I think I got a crazy take that both of them are pretty good. I don't need to denegrate one to like build up the other. I don't need to take twenty twenty six slash five Indiana, a team that, if you want to tell me it's the greatest story in college football history, I'm not even pushing back on it and say, yeah, but you know, the probably wouldn't beat twenty nineteen LSU, all right, probably wouldn't. Yeah, nobody else would either, probably wouldn't. So the question is, is already thinking Indiana, I'm glad you asked.

00:51:03
Speaker 2: Let me put do get them more comfortable.

00:51:06
Speaker 3: Nobody, including my own parents, has taught me more lessons in life than Kurt Signetti and the twenty twenty four s last twenty five Indiana Hoosiers. I think they got to teach me at least one more lesson because as of now, unless you talk me off of it in the next ten minutes, however long this preview goes, my current plan is to pick Miami to win this game. Outright, My current plan is to pick Miami.

00:51:32
Speaker 2: For the show, we'll do numbers. Yep, because it sounds like you're doing Miami, I'm taking Indiana. Dude, go with what your gut tells you.

00:51:39
Speaker 3: My gut tells me you think.

00:51:40
Speaker 2: Miami money line, Then god damn it picked the Miami money line.

00:51:46
Speaker 3: He just spent a week half a week. How long did you stay in Vegas?

00:51:50
Speaker 2: I was there the same time you guys were doing the plane Say, oh so like a.

00:51:53
Speaker 3: Couple of days. All right? So, I mean you're speaking math. You're breathing in math and numbers like it's oxygen. This is second nature to you. So I walk in this morning before we start recording, and you're kind of trying to feel me out. I'm kind of trying to feel you out. You know, we're deadlocked. We got one game left. Someone's going to be able to walk away from this game saying I had a winning year. None of those other two dudes did. That's how important this is.

00:52:16
Speaker 2: Which means more than we can even imagine right now.

00:52:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's everything.

00:52:20
Speaker 2: It is. It's everything.

00:52:23
Speaker 3: And you heard, because you would never watch my show the night before you do a show with nightymore never you heard that I picked Miami plus eight and a half last night. But you also heard that I picked them to win the game outright right.

00:52:36
Speaker 2: I heard you're taking Miami. Yeah, from a.

00:52:38
Speaker 3: Source, And so you with a straight face, like a true serial killer. Would you look at me and you say, hey, we got to break our tie. You're picking Miami out right. I said, yeah, let's just go money line, like in a one off scenario where the picks are supposed to be fifty to fifty either way. It's really a true coin flip. I'm just going to forget the eight and a half points that I can could get here, and I'm just gonna go Miami money line, putting the sea saw statistically with me totally up in the air and you totally on the ground, and you thought I wasn't even gonna be able to see through that. So I refuse the money line proposition because I'm terrified of Indiana, because I know what the Rose Bowl did to me. I'm still not back. I've showed up for the shows, but I'm still not really back from the Rose Bowl.

00:53:24
Speaker 2: Two and oh last week, Buck, I was.

00:53:28
Speaker 3: On the floor in the bathroom flipping a coin right before the show went on the air. It was pure luck, by the grace of God. I'm here and we get to pick this game, and I'm gonna do it in reverse order. I'm gonna give my pick and then give the reasons. So my pick is Miami plus eight and a half. Do I think they're gonna win?

00:53:47
Speaker 2: Yes?

00:53:47
Speaker 3: I picked them to win. But my pick on the show is Miami eight and a half. We're going eight and a half, right, yeah, we're going to get Okay, my pick is Miami.

00:53:54
Speaker 2: A let me ask you a question.

00:53:58
Speaker 3: Do you think Miami's best game is good enough to win this? Because you assume Indiana is just going to play the way they always play, right?

00:54:04
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:54:05
Speaker 3: Do you think Miami's best game is good enough to win? Not cover you win? You think they're good enough to win.

00:54:10
Speaker 2: I think they're good enough to win.

00:54:11
Speaker 3: Okay, I do too. So I got a bunch of things written on this piece of paper, but really it boils down to do I think they're going to play their best game? Because Indiana is really good at knocking you off the tracks and derailing you. And you're like, why aren't we moving? Why can't we play our best game? Because they're really good at forcing you off of your fastball. This is the first game out of the games Indiana's played in the playoff or including the Big Ten championship game. Honestly, where I don't just look at it and say, on the line of scrimmage, that team's got to deal with Miami or uh with Indiana, Like, yeah, everyone's had to deal with Indiana. They're a handful to deal with line of scrimmage. It's the first game where I actually have looked at Indiana and said, yeah, you guys got to deal with them too, because I really think Miami can do some damage on the line of scrimmage. Now, what does that mean for the game? To me, it means it becomes a little bit harder for Indiana to just control the game on the ground, Like they've been really good running the ball. There's so lethal on third down. They're like first in the country by a mile on third down offense conversion rate because it's always third and two. Because it's always third and one. I think Miami not only possesses the ability to stone them against the run a little bit, but not necessarily like have to commit a bunch of numbers to do it. Miami kind is good at doing what Indiana does, which is stopping the room before. Yeah, and so you can't really stretch the field or it's hard to do it. You also can't run the ball, so I think Miami can do that, And at that point, it really just comes down to is Fernando Mendoza in the same zone he was against Organ? Because if he is, Indiana will just win the game because no one's beating Indiana if he's in the kind of zone he was against Organ. If you took away the turnovers in the Organ game, Indiana is still winning that thing handedly just because of the zone that Fernando Mendoza was in. So question becomes can you stop the run? I think they can enough, and then can you get after him enough to where I don't think he's gonna throw like three picks or anything. But he's not in the same kind of zone he was against Oregon. He's just human. And then you pull that offense back down to Earth and you can ugly up the game, which they're comfortable with Indiana is, but you ugly up the game and you give that size differential a chance to manifest itself. From the fourth quarter, you're averaging three point thirty on your O line. They're about two seventy to seventy five D line, which hasn't mattered all year. So they're really really good technicians. But I also think Miami's really good in that compartment, and if I can get this thing into the fourth quarter, it's one possession or tied either way. I trust Miami's ability to get over the finish line here, So that's why I took him to win. But that style of game really makes me eager to take the eight and a half. So that's why I took the eight and a half.

00:56:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, both teams have the ability to do what they want to do all year to each other. Yep. Right. They want to run the ball effectively, they want to control the line of scrimmage, they want to get into the third and managable situation.

00:56:49
Speaker 3: Here's here's what concerns me. Good, You're right, I haven't seen Indiana be the victim of like critical mistakes all year. I've seen Miami be the victim of critical mistakes. My entire thinking here is they avoid the critical mistakes. Indiana's like they're just cruising altitude. Miami's like, we could maybe get up to forty two thousand feet, but we can fly at twenty eight thousand feet the next week. So I'm just rolling the dice that they hit forty one thousand feet in this.

00:57:16
Speaker 2: Game, right, That is the point of which I look at Indiana and I'm like, this is a team that is going to win the national championship because you can run the ball effectively. I love the note about the offensive line. They're averaging three thirty versus defense that's averaging two seventy. However, the gap integrity that the defense has is absolutely incredible. When you get to third down, they I think their defense is like thirty one percent of allowing offenses to convert. I believe that's the correct percentage. They just don't make mistakes. The game they made the most mistakes in was the first game against Oregon. They had multiple false star issues, clock management issues. But then you get to a two minute situation when there's twenty eight seconds that's on the clock in Fernana Mendozo does what he does best, and that's hit the outside. The numbers just rot and Cooper throwing back shoulder throws once the corners have turned their shoulders. I've talked to Will about this a million times. Like Brenana Mendoza runs more rpo than any other quarterback in the entire college football landscape. And when you're as a defense, if you're trying to stop that, and you're trying to stop the run. Yet you have Cooper running a quick slant which gives you a read, and you have Sarrot who's running a vertical when he has press coverage against.

00:58:23
Speaker 3: Him, and Becker who's a stud.

00:58:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have these guys that he has multiple outlets on every single play essentially, even though they are a fifty to fifty we're going to run it or pass it to where we have this get out a jail free card in these areas because Cooper's gonna run this three yard slant, have enough separation to move the ball five yards, or I got sarat who's got the cornerback's shoulders already turned, and I can throw that fifteen yards downfield and he's just gonna turn to it and stop, and it's either going to result in a passer a DPI, or it's gonna result in a contested catch that we've seen sarat convert over and over and over again throughout the entire season. Question question, go ahead, are my the status on Miami's corners?

00:59:02
Speaker 3: OJ fre went down? Yeah, O. J. Frederic is the one. They're still as of yesterday, still iffy on, which is a huge deal to monitor. We're still what five days away from the game as we're recording this, so there's no way to know because I don't think they'll know until the weekend. But it looks like Mesador is good to go. The other guys who were banged up, it looks like they're good to go. I think O J. Frederic, who is a very very important player here when you're talking about what you're talking about, I think he's still questionable. I think that's the status.

00:59:27
Speaker 2: Because the back shoulder chemistry that Mendos and sarat have. Yeah, it's not just it's I mean cooper as well. They can switch their interchangeable as far as like throwing that ball, And I've asked, well a couple of times, like how do you defend that if you're a defensive player, And there's really no answer for it.

00:59:42
Speaker 1: Like those guys are playing like ole miss was competitive and trying to get some of these balls away and Surat thirteen the strength he has in his hands to come down with it.

00:59:50
Speaker 2: It is just it's impressive to watch. They're winning games by I think plus thirty one point differential through on average throughout the year. They're blowing out teams, they're they're doing things that we haven't seen in this new landscape of cultural playoffs. Like if you look at teams that have had buys in the last two years, there's only been one team that's one that's to buy, and it's been Indiana. So like, regardless of circumstances, history, stats, you use the perfect analogy of their just cruising at this altitude and there's not a whole lot of turbulence. And anytime we have seen turbulence, whether it be early in the Oregon game the first time they played, or against Penn State when they had to go back and have a two minute drive to win the game, They've handled it. They've handled adversity. And so when I look at these teams and I'm be as cautious as I can not to be like super critical of Miami because I think they're a fantastic team, But it really just comes down to who this game is all going to be who makes the least amount of mistakes. And I said it last year on ESPN. If Carson Beck has two minute drill against Ole miss what's going to happen? And I say bluntly to the camera, almost will go to the NAST Championship. That exact situation took place at the game you guys were at, and Carson Beck Marsha's team down the field and now is in the National Championship. So I have a lot more respect and Carson Becker is a lot more in his bad that I even expected to him to have. Malachai Tony absolutely incredible opens it up where you have to allocate two guys to him while you have a back like Fletcher who's ripping the rock for like six yards per carry. So they have a lot of things going for them. But at the end of the day, dude, it's who makes a mistake, who has more emmys, who doesn't handle the clock the best, and that edge is severely on Indiana side. That's why I sit back and I'm like, yeah, eight and a half points is a lot, but I think there were what ten points against Alabama. They've had larger spreads throughout this I think Oregon was four and then they Yeah, so they've been They've handled business every single time, every single game throughout this process. When you're like, hey, this is a good, feel good story and now we catch ourselves where they're in the National championship. It's they're undeniable at this point. So where if you go the other way? Unfortunately, you have to learn a lesson, and the lesson is Big Netti. Big Netti. I feel like I'm watching the national title take place right now. The savviness and moxy of Big Netti. He's he's unfazed, he has every he has everything when it comes. They scored touchdowns, they get an interception, his face is stoic. He's focused on the process over and over and over again. And he's got a quarterback that just is all about the team. He is the George Kittle of quarterbacks in the sense of it's all about the team, Like, don't even focus on me, don't even look at me, It's about the team. Now, you got him being black in the backfield too. That are a one to two punch that always happened to spring a big run and then always fall forward in situations. I think it's gonna be a great matchup. I think it's gonna be like one of the bloodiest first quarters we ever see, and it's who flinches first, and Indiana has refused to flinch all year.

01:02:53
Speaker 3: I'm waiting on that moment that you just talked about like I'm I'm taking Miami, which means I got to go against Indiana. Even if the game starts out okay, Miami gets a three to zero lead, Indiana touchdown seven to three, another field goal from Miami, man got in the red zone, couldn't convert. But that's okay. One point game, early second quarter, back and forth. It's really kind of a struggle. No one has that clear edge. Even if I get that game, you would think, oh, he's comfortable. The game's kind of settling in. Miami's getting their game script, it's Indiana. You're just waiting for that three minute period where they score and then someone botches something on the ensuing kickoff and they get it and they kick another field goal, and it's just a ten point swing and a minute and a half and then you go three and out and they got the ball at midfield and then they're driving and you're looking and saying, wait a second, it was just a tie game. They're up ten, about to go up seventeen, and oh wait, they get the ball to start the second half.

01:03:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they double up on you. Now it's seventeen. Terrified, dude. Their operation on two minute is incredible. I go back to that Oregon Indiana gameene Oregon, there's twenty eight seconds on the clock and they're they're on like the twenty six twenty seven yard line, and they do what most people do in that situation is they run the ball and it's like, hey, if we get a big chunk, we'll start to press it down the field. They have multiple timeouts and they end up getting twelve to fifteen yards heavy around the left side, and then it's just chunk play after chunk play where guys are running outs, they're catching the ball even two feet, they're having NFL catches, and they're just moving the ball five ten yards, fifteen yards to the point where they're on the thirty seven yard line and they kick the three. And it's like, that is operation that is coached, that is everything that these players go in. They're like, oh, twenty eight seconds, two timeouts, that's no problem with score. We've operated that, We've operated over and over and over again. What gives me pause about Miami because they have the ability to do all the same things that I just talked about the Indiana. You float back to SMU and Louisville and It's like Indiana doesn't have those blips in the red. They have never showed us. They've only in the words you used about Ohio State as so many team have given us question marks after big games. And then at the time you said Ohio has only given us answers. Now it's Indiana in that position where all year, well, yeah, Miami lost to this team Notre Dame. Should they be in Texas like they just beat the number one team Texas AINGA. There's a lot of question marks taking place, But Indiana has only given you answers every single week and deep into these playoffs in the National Championship.

01:05:22
Speaker 3: Here's what I want.

01:05:23
Speaker 2: So what changes?

01:05:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's what I wonder. I think Miami did show you several blips in the Old Miss game. Like I think there were two ten point swings they left on the table in the Old Miss game. Now you can look at that one of two ways. You could say, there are the things that will cost them against Indiana. They were in playing sight and you ignored them, or they go on to beat Indiana and you look and say, it turns out their most vulnerable moment was against Ole Miss. But Ole Miss just didn't cut the head off the snake, and so they didn't have to learn their lesson with a loss. They learned their lesson, but they still won and they applied it, cleaned everything up, and they played their best game in the biggest against Indiana. Obviously, I'm baking on the second scenario for my pick, but I don't know, and we.

01:06:06
Speaker 2: Also haven't when we talked about how that last play for Old Miss Trenidda Chamblis in the back left of the end zone was easily a DPI that a lot of Yeah, it is, but it's a lot of place to where we could be talking about a different team playing aginst Indiana Miss National Championships.

01:06:23
Speaker 1: You'd also argue on Miami side, how you letting Ole Miss get in the position to throw a hell Mary like that?

01:06:27
Speaker 2: I would have loved to have seen an extra play just for the actors. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Like at the end of the day, in Miami deserved to be in that game. I'm I don't want to take any anything away from Miami. I just think when it comes to complete mistake free football football that you look at, it's like how do we beat him? It's like hope they fuck up and hope is hope gets you killed, and unfortunately, I think Miami gets killed in this one.

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01:07:17
Speaker 1: I'm trying to break down watch this national title and full with both of you guys. I personally think my gut tells me Indiana is gonna win this game. At eight and a half is too many points. I'm going with Miami plus eight and a half. I agree with you, guys, laid out so many different angles perfectly. When I was leaving both of these games, my initial reaction is Indiana is gonna kill this team. But then when you look at when you go back and actually dive into the game of Miami drop four picks, those ten point swings that we were talking about on the plane. And also Carson Beck has these moments where fortunately there were incompletions, but he has the balls always there to be picked off, like if you're all missed that they all miss it, nears the defense and plays at that level like Indiana does to where again we're in the conversation of Indiana, they never really have a false step, they never make a whole lot of mistakes like Indiana will make you pay for those kind of throws. But it's more of the role the Dies hoping we get an incredible football game and Miami's gonna play their best football because if they do like they have again, they match up well with Indiana. The beef that they have up front on both sides of the ball matches up really well with Indiana. Their ability for Fletcher to run the football. Carson Beck, he's been playing much better to where I'm trying not to where I've always allowed myself to get caught in the SMU and Louisville like I've been a.

01:08:28
Speaker 2: Hater of the acc all year long.

01:08:30
Speaker 1: Now they have not only did they handle one of the best defenses in the SEC in Texas A and M and handle the best defense in college football at the time with Ohio State, which Indiana beat them with thirteen to ten, and Miami just out physicaled Ohio State in the fourth quarter and took it away, snatched the soul from Ohio State and then gets yeah and then showed that they Okay, are they going to be able to keep up with the high powered offense of old miss Like how's the defense going to look? And I was getting so pissed off when they kept dropping interceptions because one of them is another one's arguably a pick six to where if they capitalize on those mistakes, like this game is going to be incredible. But Indiana, when I fantasize about their story, I feel like this crew right here, let's say twenty years from now, you look back and realize this could be the only sixteen to zero team that we see in college football because of all the parody that's coming into the sport. So where we look back twenty years from now, it's like, Yo, we got to witness that game, like in person, go to their semi final game, and just see that the storylines unfold throughout the year, knowing that Indiana was just a shitty football.

01:09:36
Speaker 2: Team throughout the history of college football. So I fantasize about that.

01:09:40
Speaker 1: I fantasize about Miami, the confidence, the swagger, the attitude that this team always had in the college football landscape as we were growing up. And then you're trying to tell this generation about Miami. And since christ of Ball has gotten there, you've seen these windows of opportunity, whether it's situational football that gets in beat, mental lapses, the penalties that get them beat. In years past, they had a very like when I look at the Ole Miss game that they just had recently, they had some penalties that they that was very uncharacteristic of what this team has done throughout the week the year, to where you sit back and almost go, oh, Miami's kind of being Miami right now with some of these penalties, some they didn't even get called for. But again seeing Miami, if they can get over this something and win this national title to where the U is back. I know christ Ball hates that, I fantasize about that. I think the points are too long, So I'm going with Miami plus eight and a half, just because I believe like as far as the trenches go, the defense being if they're able to be more opportunistic if they get those opportunities on Mendoza, because again they could stop the run with a lighter box because they have the catch, which means defensively, you have those extra guys for the RPO situations. It's just who's gonna win the fifty to fifty balls when you get those back shoulders competing against Sarad and Cooper and those receivers.

01:10:52
Speaker 2: But I'm taking Miami plus eight and a half. One thing up to when you're talking about Carson Back is like he's I mean, this is a seventh year in Calle. This is it, this is this is it, this is it for him right now. And you see his level of maturity taking place throughout the playoffs where he's got younger guys around him. You've got a lot of guys that are, like, you know, barely able to drink, twenty years old, nineteen years old, and he is just being a He's being a fantastic leader for that team because of his age and how long he's been able to see the game and it's like that's a that's a really cool story. But then you look at Indiana. They have forty four players that are twenty four and twenty five years old, Like they're the oldest team in college football. And it's that level of maturity because we've all been you see the level at the college age where you get to college, you know someone's got you go on and have like a case race, and you like really are like, you know, I'm out of I'm at I can booze, I can do all this. You're partying, you're kind of like learning about yourself as an individual now you're out of your parents' house. But then you get to like twenty three and you're like, hey, that was a lot of fun, but now I'm gonna slow down because your brain just starts to be like, these really are not the important things. This is where I need to focus.

01:11:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, these guys are reading newspapers in the morning, exactly. Yeah.

01:11:58
Speaker 2: So I look at this team that has forty four players that are twenty four and twenty five years old. They're not worried about the frat houses and the house parties, the bars, all those things there. These are grown adults. The phrase these are grown ass men.

01:12:13
Speaker 3: The phrase when I was your age has come out of the mouth of several Indiana players.

01:12:18
Speaker 2: Yes, move into the young bucks, talk about how sore they might.

01:12:22
Speaker 3: Be, or I remember those days.

01:12:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, all those guys say calling them fresh legs. Man, must be nice to be as young as you.

01:12:29
Speaker 3: One day you'll be in this spot.

01:12:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like, well, probab won't be another COVID, so we won't hopefully I'll be in the league.

01:12:37
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I'm excited for this game. It's again walking out of those both those playoff games. My initial gut in the second game we got to watch was Indiana Organ and just seeing the ass beating that Indiana put on Organ, It's like I'm walking out of there thinking, Yo, Miami doesn't have a chance. But every day that goes by, the pendulum swings for me mentally, for whatever reason, it just swings more toward Miami because like, this team's got.

01:13:02
Speaker 2: Everything that they need.

01:13:03
Speaker 1: The offensive line, Like I'm standing up there, I don't know how many times I'm Patton JP and clump on the shoulder, like, look at that offensive line. I don't know if it was the all whites making him look so big. But who's what's the name of the left tackle?

01:13:14
Speaker 3: Markel Bell?

01:13:15
Speaker 1: Markel Bell, for the love of God, And we're up in a suite and I'm like, Yo, these dudes are massive.

01:13:21
Speaker 3: I think Bell's the biggest player in the sport. He's the biggest human I've seen in the sport in several years.

01:13:26
Speaker 2: It is nuts.

01:13:27
Speaker 1: And then the Cats that got across the line of scrimmage on defense with Mesador and Bain, it's they They have it all there and I love you. You can just feel the identity that they have taken with Crystal Ball. And I love seeing Crystal Ball getting in the post game pressers or the media he did the next day where he's going back and forth with saving He's going back and forth with Scott van Pelt after the.

01:13:46
Speaker 2: Game like it. It makes me just just root for it. Yeah. I had that same exact feeling about Oregon and Indiana and that was, yeah, we got But if I swing the other way.

01:13:57
Speaker 1: Every Indiana fan you meet when we were out there in Atlanta, incredible, man.

01:14:01
Speaker 3: They just like pat you on the head. They smile and they say it's okay, you picked against us. A few times this year. It's okay, man, we get it.

01:14:10
Speaker 2: We will do not even when we get it, like I didn't believe.

01:14:12
Speaker 3: It, smiling, Yeah, we love you anyway.

01:14:17
Speaker 2: At what point does that fan base, because they are obviously you've brought it up, how they've been as long as football has been going on in Indiana, Hoosiers have had a football team, they've been bad up until these last two years. At what point does that fan base flip to we're so excited to be here too, we expect this. I don't know, bro, I was than we think we know what a little bit of success does some people's heads.

01:14:43
Speaker 3: It's there, it's already from this point forward. I think they're there.

01:14:48
Speaker 2: So let's say class this year, because you have to believe at this point Indian is gonna be in the playoffs next year.

01:14:53
Speaker 3: I would assume yeah, yeah, right.

01:14:55
Speaker 2: And let's say they go to the first round. They might beat up a muffin, a G five muffin, and then they go and a real team and they lose. Are Indiana fans like this fucking signetty guy?

01:15:05
Speaker 3: I don't especially if they win Monday Night by three, But if they win Monday Night, No, if you win a title your set, they can miss the playoffs the next year, and you say, hey, man, everybody has to hit the reset button. Why should we be any different? I just wonder like, and I could say the same thing about Mario when you get this close, because it's not in the BCS anymore, where it's just two teams finish their season. Voila, you're in the game, right. Miami had to win three to even get in this game. Indiana had to win two and really three because they had to beat Ohio State two. So they both had to go through it to get in this game. And you get so close and you you lurch for the belt, but you just miss it off your fingertips. You fall to the mat. That feeling. In the expanded playoff era, it must make you feel like it's so borderline impossible to get all the way back there again. Think about how many things have to go right for us to get all the way back there again.

01:15:58
Speaker 2: It's tough, big climb. Yeah, everything you just said to me made me think, Man, I wish you would get in the NFL football a little bit, because that's the playoffs, but the wildcard division A championship, and then you go Super Bowl, and it's like you get right there and you never It's like you never go back. And I feel like you would enjoy the storylines taking place in the NFL.

01:16:18
Speaker 3: Can I tell you a secret?

01:16:19
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

01:16:20
Speaker 3: None of you are going to believe this. I've watched every playoff game.

01:16:24
Speaker 2: No you haven't. Who do you like right now?

01:16:26
Speaker 3: Let me fletch your theory. Caleb Williams, pretty good player, pretty good player, pretty good player?

01:16:34
Speaker 2: Right, elite?

01:16:37
Speaker 3: I think that chapter of his book is yet to be written. Elite moments the other day, Oh yeah, talk about changing the fate of an entire city on that fourth down throw, fourth and eight.

01:16:47
Speaker 2: That throw, it's not just in the elite category.

01:16:49
Speaker 1: I feel like it's making its own category because that's how unbelievable it was.

01:16:53
Speaker 2: That throw, to me was the best through I've ever seen.

01:16:55
Speaker 1: I noticed that Josh was watching some NFL football because he had a tweet, and then at half time, I should Josha text, I'm like splattering in Chicago.

01:17:04
Speaker 2: Oh my god. That then would you end up saying like I need one more touch?

01:17:09
Speaker 3: First off? I told you because it was twenty one three and I said, you can't do that yet. You can't do it because my biggest fear is premature splattering. A lot of people that fear is about other premature things. My fear is premature splattering because if you tweet out it's a splattering in blank and then that team comes back to win, that's the ultimate freezing cold take. You will never live that down. I've never suffered a premature splattering.

01:17:33
Speaker 2: You won and never suffered.

01:17:35
Speaker 3: Never slatter, never close, never even close. So I've waited until the game's for sure over to say it's a splattering, but it's an inexact science. And at twenty one to three, you texted me privately. I didn't reveal this. You just revealed this. You said it's a splattering in Chicago, and I said, can't do it yet. Maybe one more touchdown and we can do it. We can't do it yet, and sure enough Chicago comes all the way back to win. I screened shat the text, but I marked your name out. You and I tweeted it out and I said, I hope, I hope it never comes out. Who sent this to me?

01:18:06
Speaker 2: It just came out. I'm still thought.

01:18:10
Speaker 1: I still wish we could go back and he could tweet that out just because the whole just stay in college football all everything.

01:18:14
Speaker 2: That would would just be so funny. But yeah, you would love You're watching it. You're enjoying it right now a little bit, aren't you.

01:18:22
Speaker 3: Where's John Harbaugh going?

01:18:24
Speaker 2: Not to the Titans as much as Cavas wanted me to say yesterday, Wow, do we have any inkling of who the Titans might beginning? I I have not my ear to the ground at all at all.

01:18:37
Speaker 1: Top three.

01:18:39
Speaker 2: That's clumb right there.

01:18:40
Speaker 3: It's a nice place to live.

01:18:42
Speaker 2: It's a great place, nice neighborhood source.

01:18:44
Speaker 1: I am.

01:18:45
Speaker 2: I am hoping it's Arthur Smith. I am hoping it's Arthur.

01:18:48
Speaker 3: Smith, non selfishly, no selfish tide of that whatsoever. Non selfish, No, absolutely, yeah, just for the betterment of the franchise. I want the Titans to be great. I think Arthur Smith is the man to make them great. And then mustache he gets it.

01:19:03
Speaker 2: Good. So you're you're I'm going, Miami.

01:19:06
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to take a total on the national title game.

01:19:09
Speaker 2: That's what I thought you thinking about it, which would be just like play up both things. I'm taking the over, give me the over. It's a great game. And honestly, good luck to you. Thank you. It'll be fun to watch forty seven and a half. That's over. That's an over game, could be, could be under. Indiana gets up big, Indiana gets up, Miami starts to press, and then they either come back or Indiana or Indiana takes advantage and picks more points. But there it'll be. Do you think there's going to be a Indiana is going to like candle? Well, the game is candle. This game is eight and a half Indian in half. Like, I'm taking Indiana eight and a half. I believe we have a potential splattery on our hand. Where we sit back in the like going into the fourth quarter, going, bro, they really did it with this level of talent, Like this might be the best coaching we've ever seen in our entire lives.

01:20:04
Speaker 3: How do you are ten minutes to go in the fourth quarter? What's the commentary in the game. Is it a one possession game? Is it still nip and tuck or our Fowler in herb Street already eulogizing Miami and they're already crystallizing what the story of Indiana is. And everyone's already worried on Miami. Message boards about which quarterback we're gonna get in the portal, where is the mind ten minutes to go in to get I see.

01:20:25
Speaker 2: This game where they're sitting there and Fowler's going on and on about Indiana and how great of a season they have and they've really gotten over the hurdle and look how amazing this is. And there's gonna be a there's a moment where it's sparks in Kirkirk Streets head where it's like we've been giving a lot of flowers Indiana. He's gonna switch it. It's like Indian has been amazed, but we also have to give a lot of credit Tomorrow Chris Paul and these Miami Hurricanes people want to talk about the the you being back, the U is back. Regardless of the circumstances of what's happening in this game right now, they have a big future ahead of them. That is kind of what in my head is going to take place.

01:20:56
Speaker 3: Sounds like either way, it's a double digit lead for Indiana at that point, yees, so it's out of reach. Like games, games, you just.

01:21:02
Speaker 2: You just wait. Foul will be sitting there and they'll be back and forth about how great Indiana is, but Kirk shouldn't be the one to flip the script on let's also talk about how great Miami is. That's what's going to take place in this game.

01:21:14
Speaker 3: It's pretty anti climactic what it is. I guess it's right in line with what Indiana it's to me, this is a bow on a great college football season. Yeah, but don't you want to see something down on the wire, Just no doubt.

01:21:26
Speaker 2: I think we all would. I mean not based on the show, I don't. But I think if Indiana goes and they do what they've done this entire playoffs to everybody they played against, it's a perfect boat to be. Like this logo has never sniffed this, Like this has been one of the coolest seasons we've ever watched we've been a part of. I don't know if it's because we've dove it into it more than ever as individuals or the show, or it's actually that good football. It's that good and it's like if Indiana takes it here, and you can say a lot about Miami as well, like the you being back you know, the nineties or nice days whenever that you was, It's like that's that'll be exciting as well. But seeing that logo a Hoister Trophy after a dominant win as like this might have been the best year of college football ever. That's what's exciting.

01:22:13
Speaker 3: Hey, can I tell you something. I think it was the best year either way?

01:22:17
Speaker 2: Really, that's your for us.

01:22:21
Speaker 1: Well, if if it's Vince flipped on the other side that he's talking about it's a close game, we could have ended on that, like you're saying it's going to be a big win for Indiana and it's going to put a bow on the greatest or the best college football we've seen. And he's like, oh, I think it's the best college football we've seen either way. And I'm like, well, the other side of it is just a barn burner of a game that we all love and we're like, damn, what a year.

01:22:45
Speaker 2: Of college football. Either way, we're all winning. Either way, we've won, But now I have to find out who wins because the only thing that matters is record exactly exactly. And again before the show, Clump was saying that we have a verbal commitment for the show next year. I didn't know if we were allowed to announce that, but hey.

01:23:03
Speaker 1: No, no, I think we applaud it over on the other side. But now you we got to remember we're in the world of college football. Verbal commitments, contract doesn't sign.

01:23:13
Speaker 2: We can't wait till April to reach back.

01:23:15
Speaker 3: Out the pay Yeah, hey, let me ask you. Did something happen recently to you? What's the deal with the verbal commit I mean you really forcefully said that did something happen?

01:23:26
Speaker 1: Okay, just learning about what goes on, even the contract that guests could be signed and you could pull with.

01:23:30
Speaker 3: Demm Williams, I may go do a show with will Stein.

01:23:34
Speaker 2: You should and you should zoom me in or call me and FaceTime me in.

01:23:38
Speaker 3: At some point, you guys buried the hatchet though I saw you talking. I saw you.

01:23:41
Speaker 1: We had a good little conversation with had a good little conversation. We have a common friend that we were both close with that we were kind of also growing our friendship over. Want to come to a Kentucky game? Nobody just to come out to Kentucky for the spring tour.

01:24:00
Speaker 2: No. I'll say this about Nebraska because it always comes back to Nebraska on the show over the last three years. This is the most excited I've been to watch Nebraska. This next season. Oh yeah, this quarterback, this unlv CA, I can't even pronounce his name. We've done it six times yesterday, and I fucking love him, met him, saw one clip.

01:24:21
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with magic in his legs. Yeah, live arm. That was the scouting report, thirty six hundred yards last year.

01:24:28
Speaker 2: And the kid fucking he's got the juice. Yeah, he's got the jew. Nebraska is in a great spot, some say the best spot in recent years.

01:24:39
Speaker 4: Fitting end to the show, Josh Pate completely punted on saying, if he's verbally committing to coming back next year.

01:24:46
Speaker 3: Isn't that fitting.

01:24:47
Speaker 2: It's a fickle game. It's a fickle game out there.

01:24:50
Speaker 3: Reportedly I am, I'm reportedly verbally committed. Isn't that accurate? Clump's reporting it as Nako's put it out there yet he has not put it out there yet.

01:24:59
Speaker 2: I don't have a gras think yet making graphic Coop.

01:25:05
Speaker 3: Can't go back on that.

01:25:06
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, History.

01:25:09
Speaker 3: Graphic. I feel good about it. Yeah, I feel good about it.

01:25:14
Speaker 2: Feel good. Our boys, bake hugs, tiny kisses. Thank you for an amazing you know, it's une a plus everybody here, all the boys beaming in the back for reducing the show. It's been an amazing year. Thank you, Big hugs, tiny kisses.

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