Susan Shelley on the state of the Governor's Race

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Speaker 1: And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon on the Giant Phillip Show, Mister Randy Wags in Culver City.

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Speaker 2: John, the California Democratic Party has released their first poll. They're going to be doing one every single week to convince the lower polling candidates to get out. And the first poll that they commissioned, it came out today shows Steve Hilton in first place with sixteen percent, Bianco in second place with fourteen percent, and a three way tie for third place at ten percent each between Swellwell Steyer and KT Porter.

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling in to the bakery. Eight hundred two two two five two two two is the telephone number one. Eight hundred two two two five two two two. It is our pleasure to welcome our next guest to the program. She is a columnist for the Southern California News Group and host of the Howard Jarvis Radio Show, which airs Tuesday nights on KABC in LA and KSFO in the Bay Area. You can and follow her on Exit Susan Underscore Shelley, Susan Shelley, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, John, great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: So the big gubernatorial debate which was supposed to go down tonight has been canceled.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Well, it's a very interesting situation of how they manipulated the criteria to get into the debate. You know, I think this is about the unions not wanting Matt Mayhan or Steve Hilton or Chad Bianco to have a direct microphone straight to the voters, because if they talk to the voter, then they say, you know, California has huge deficits, California has huge problems. California is owned and operated by the public employee unions. If they say that, that's very bad for the unions. So when you saw of that letter come out from the state legislative leaders, that was very odd and it was almost panicky that the six candidate on stage would get more time than the ten candidates that they wanted this. I don't think it had anything to do with rates. I think it had to deal with you need.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's the saying, Sometimes where you stand depends on where you sit. And for a lot of people who sit in the legislature right now, they look at these low performing democrats and they see themselves. They see people who came up through the machine, through the system, and they work their way up the food chain and they're trying to get the brass ring. And for those people that's been one step too far. There's a ceiling where they hit those low level statewide constitutional offices and that's as high as they can go. And the political celebrities, people like Gavin Dussom and Jerry Brown, they're the ones that can become governor. But if you just come through the ranks and the legislature, that's not for you, that's for them. And because that group of people was being kept off that stage, I think for the members of the legislature, they saw themselves and they took great offense to it. And they see this clique, this Northern California white Democrat clique that keeps all the real good spoils for itself and they give the crumbs to everyone else.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's certainly, that's a good call, and it could be that, but it's also true that these people who are in the legislature are commonly up through this political machine without any talents. If people get elected on their own talent, if they're out there talking to the voters, they would have more public support. When there's polands on their names, but they don't have public support, and yet they've achieved these very high career goals of being elected to these high offices and support. So this is a political machine engineering candidates into these races, clearing the fields for them, donating to somebody else if they don't come through on the contract. I think it's really about the labor unions owning the whole California government, and Matt Mayhon is being funded by billionaires who want to oppose that. They want to create another power center in California through ballot measures, through candidates, through whatever they can do to stop this socialist march to confiscation of everybody's assets, which is where they're heading. So I think that might be part of this story is that Matt Mayhon is not in that clique with the with the unions. He's not been a supporter of them. He don't support higher taxes, so he's not really a friend of the taxpayer. But he's not been not been affront for the union. So Leay, so many of these candidates have them.

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Speaker 1: Do you see the pressure campaign working on any of them and any of them dropping out?

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't see it. I think you have a very good point that they think these people at the top will implode and they want to be the person who's still standing when that happens. And they're all going to be the ballot. So even if they were to drop out their names over there, they're still going to pull a few votes. It's a really tough situation. If you were a Democratic strategist, then I'm not I'm just speculating, But if you were a Democratic strategist trying to figure out how to get the outcome you want with a ten candidate field, of course more than ten candidates, but ten moving candidates. You want to get the outcome you want, what do you do? Because you push over here, you pull over there, you might get something completely Unintended's top too primary and so much depends on turnout, and perhaps Republicans will be very motivated to turn out, and maybe we will have two Republican candidates in the November runoff. It's not impossible.

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Speaker 1: Let's assume for a second that that happens. When we wake up on Wednesday morning and we're told that there will be two Republicans on the November ballot and the Democrats have been shut out, what does that mean does that mean that Republicans probably keep that dare Elysis seat in San Diego that goes into Palm Springs. Does it mean that Republicans probably keep a seat or two in the central Valley that the Democrats certainly would like to have. Maybe the Kevin Kyleie seat in northern California is something that the Republicans could hang on to. I don't see how you motivate Democrats to turn out and vote in a November election when there's no presidential race on the ballot to gin the mob, there's no US Senate race to gin the MUB, and there's a choice between two Republicans at the top of the ballot. I can't imagine that they will get excited by the lieutenant governor's race, or the state Superintendent of Public Instruction race, or their city council race, or their state assembly race. I don't see how you get them to turn out.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, there won't be any statewide measures on the ballot to turn them out, and the statewide electorate, if we're talking about the governor's race, the state wide election, it is thirty eight percent voting for Republican or the Conservative So Donald Trump got six million votes. That's a lot of people. And honestly, if you have two Republicans and the independents have to pick one, I think you would have. I think you have a pretty good outcome, and the Democrat machine would possibly the cracks would just implode the whole operation, because political machines do end, and if they don't end in handcuffed, they end in this kind of thing with no leadership and no center around which to rally. So that could happen if.

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Speaker 1: The Democratic Party determines that that is the most likely outcome and they need to bring in an executioner to whack some of these guys. Who is it that they bring in? Who's the big gun? Is it Newsome? Is it Nancy Pelosi? Is it Obama? Is it Jerry Brown? Who do they go to?

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Speaker 3: Well? I think it was Obama for the Prop fifty campaign, and I think it probably would have to be Obama about how much. I don't know how much credibility does he have in the governor's race in California. But Newsom doesn't seem to want to get involved in it, and Kamala Harris doesn't seem to want to get involved and I don't think the senators, the US Senators want to get involved. I'm not sure that there's anybody who will cross the supporters of each of these candidates, because they all have supporters. You know, vi Orogosa has the Building Trades Council, and the SARAH has the Laborers Union, and Furman has the California Faculty Association, as does the SARAH. So you know, I don't really know. Betty Ee has been endorsed by the Progressive Democrats of California and the Progressive Democrats of America. I don't know that anybody really wants to cross them. So it's not just crossing the candidates, but it's crossing the endorsers and the donors, and it's it's just not that clear. Where's the advantage for Democrats to even take a stand in this. They're just making enemies, and what's the advantage if they turn out to be wrong?

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Speaker 1: And if you're Obama, you're a former president, you're not going to run for office ever again, do you really want to lower yourself to a small time party boss by calling Betty Ye into a room and threatening her, or calling Javier Bessera into a room and threatening him. Is that something you really want to do. Is that something that you want to be part of your legacy? And you go back and you look at what happened in the last presidential election. When they knew they had to get Joe Biden out of the race, no one wanted to do it. It was Nancy Pelosi who was the one that stuck the knife in, but she did it way too late. Had she stuck the knife in earlier, they might have been able to salvage that campaign and nominate a more electable candidate than Kamala Harris. But they all waited too long because they were afraid of making the first step. If you're going to try to go after the king, you better kill the king, because if you don't kill the king, paybacks a bitch. And I think that they waited too long this time. They could have forced these people out of the race. They could have said, all right, you're going to get out and we're going to clear the field for you for a congressional seat, or we're going to make sure that you win the endorsement for lieutenant governor or whatever. But people have already filed for all of those offices. Those plums don't exist anymore. So I don't know how you bribe someone or how you entice them out of the race in March of twenty twenty six. This had to be done in October of last year or September of last year. That's when you do this. But it seems like they're just so used to winning and they're so used to getting what they want, they felt that the chips would fall into place, and now everything has gone haywire.

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Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely true. And the other thing that we shouldn't underestimate the great campaign that Steve Hilton has been running, where he's been up and down the state for three years, calling attention to the failures of these policies, and he's he's leading in the polls week after week. He's leading in the polls. And Chad Biancle on a law enforcement, law and order platforms, he's doing very well in the polls. And it's calling attention to what was also really uncovered in the Prop thirty six campaign that people are not happy with the situation in California by big numbers in all parties. They're not happy with the way things are going in this state. And so the fact that the Republicans have been aggressive. Has shown the weakness of the Democrats. Well, that's one factor. And something else that occurs to me is that when the low polling Democrats, as Hilton called them, made this a racial issue about debate, maybe they were sending a message to people like Barack Obama, like Nancy Pelosi, but they will make it a racial issue. If anybody tries to lock them in a room and get them out of the race, they will go straight to the race card. Maybe that was what this was all about.

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Speaker 1: This is turning in the worst case scenario for them.

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Speaker 3: This is bad for the Democrats, but it's good for California because if this has been a one party state with no checks and balances, we have insane policies with no one pushing back on them. Effectively, It's raised the cost of living in this state. There's a reason that California is so much more expensive than Nevada and Arizona and other states across the country. And it's because of our dim wit policies that no one's pushing back on. The oil companies have tried to push back on some of the insane energy policies, and now the refineries are closing because they weren't bluffing. So the refineries are closing. So we're importing gasoline. What does that cost? Well, you're seeing what it costs. It's not all the war in Iran because it's more more expensive in California than it is anywhere else. And these are policy choices that really need to be reversed. And until we have checks and balances in our California government at all levels we needed at the city, county, and state level, we are going to have insane, destructive policies pushed by special interest groups.

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Speaker 1: If you had a magic wand, and your magic wand could make Donald Trump do whatever it is that you want him to do, and you wanted Donald Trump to help California Republicans get Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco on the November ballot and lock the Dems off, what would Trump do?

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Speaker 3: Well, give him the polling that we saw at work in the Prop fifty campaign. He probably shouldn't directly endorse anybody because that just creates this series of commercials about MAGA and the rest of it that are just distorting everything. So I think probably the direct endorsement is not the past. The pass is to call attention to the democratic failures, which he's doing by coming down on the greenhouse gas policies, reversing the endangerment finding that has allowed this crazy amount of regulation for no good reason. I think he's probably doing the right thing to challenge some of the goofy mandates in California that are making life expensive. But then again, that's kind of a slow it's a slow track. It's up in the air whether the immigration policy helps or hurts with the California electorate, because certainly Californians have not been really happy about all the public benefits for illegal immigrants. We saw that from Prop One eighty seven forward that people are upset about what they consider to be improper public benefits for people in the country illegally, and California has really let everybody in doing that. Should he make an issue out of that, Well, they kind of are from doctor Oz coming in and talking about changing the formulas for medicale but that's a little wonky. I don't know that people will pick up on that. So if I had a magic wand, I would say that Donald Trump should keep doing what he's doing, which is challenging California's policies and pointing out the failures. I think that's the most effective path ol because the fundrating fundrating would be helpful.

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Speaker 1: Silicon Valley has gotten behind San Jose may or Matt Mahon in a big way. So far, that has not translated in him moving up in the polls. He's still stuck in those low single digits. It's still relatively early, and his shock and awe campaign on television, in radio, and in the mailboxes hasn't really started yet. Let's say he blows up on takeoff. Let's say that they spend and spend and spend, but he never really moves into the top two in the polls. But an all Republican November ballot is something that is certainly still a possible scenario. If you are a Silicon Valley titan, if you are one of these people that runs a tech company and you need California to be a functioning place for your business to thrive and survive. Right as the wave is hitting with AI, do you cut bait on Mayhan and then get behind one or both of the Republicans.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good idea. I think Mayhan has a very long way to go from where he's currently polling at four percent, and a very short run way to get there. So I'm not sure that you could spend enough money in the short time period to get people to pay attention and vote for him by May fourth is when the ballots drops, So I think he might he might not be the ticket for Silicon Valley billionaires who don't want a socialist California if they really won't exist state. They should go for candidates who are sensible on policy, and we'll provide a check against the goofy leftist legislature which is so far to the left of the people of California. We see that in the in the votes on ballot initiatives. The people of California are much more centrist and the legislature is way to the left. So I would say that the best path is to get behind sensible policies and back sensible candidates, and in this election they're on the Republican side.

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Speaker 1: Susan Shelley, columnist for the Southern California Newsgroup and host of the Howard Jarvis radio Show, which airs Tuesday nights on KABC in La KSFO in the Bay Area. You can follow her on x at Susan Underscore Shelley, Susan Shelley, thanks so much for stopping by.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Well, Randy, we finally found a campaign promise that Karen back capped. Oh yeah, she said she would get homeless people off the streets. Correct, that's what she said. Well, she's doing it now. They're living in the sewers.

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Speaker 2: It's not a namsey pamsy thing.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two easy telephone number. What eight hundred two two two five two two two. Well, if you woke up this morning and he thought to yourself, you know there are bums everywhere here in California, Randy, you probably didn't think that that included the sewer.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Seedorf, the reporter at Fox eleven who loves to put himself in should we say, dangerous situations, has investigated a new finding by La hero Wan Nala, the clean La with Me guy, that while in he was doing one of his cleanings of streets of La, he found people living in the cellar.

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Speaker 1: Uh oh.

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Speaker 2: For more on the sewer people that live among us, here's Fox eleven and Matthew Sedorf only.

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Speaker 4: At Fox eleven tonight. Shocking and disturbing discovery in South Los Angeles some homeless nout living underground.

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Speaker 1: They're like the teenage mutant Ninja turtles inside.

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Speaker 4: The city sewer system just to survive. Fox Love is Matthew Sudorf joining us live after.

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Speaker 2: No, they're not surviving down there, They're thriving.

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Speaker 1: There's like a whole economy going on down there.

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Speaker 4: Fox Love is Matthew Sudorf joining us live after witnessing these conditions firsthand.

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Speaker 1: Matthew.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Christine, this is bad in the area. Isn't safe either. We actually had to drive a few miles away just for safety reasons for this live shot.

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Speaker 1: Now here's a question. Now that she's been to the Tijuana River, do you think Katie Porter is going to observe these sewers next? I would advise against that. This is the second time in just recent months that Seedorf had to move the live shot because it was not safe to have the news van out there. That happened at MacArthur Park, and it also has happened at the sewer encampment in South La.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Christine, this is bad in the area. Isn't safe either. We actually had to drive a few miles away just for safety reasons for this live shot. But the things that we saw we won't forget. I bet an up close, exclusive look underground at living conditions too extreme for words. It's hard to imagine someone in the trash, human waste, in an overpowering stench. Alright, I gotta get.

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Speaker 2: Back, Oh, poor Seedorf.

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Speaker 1: There's no union protections against him being sent down there.

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Speaker 2: It was his idea. I have asked several people at Fox eleven. He comes up with this. Now he has to talk the camera person into coming with him, but these are his ideas. He gets a lot of scoops and he's like, yep, let's go to the sewer.

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Speaker 1: When I was a child, my mom neither one of my parents were smokers. My mom used to be part of a bowling league, and when she would come back from that bowling alley, before she walked into my bedroom, I could smell the cigarette smoke on her clothes because everyone around her was smoking. Could you imagine what his clothes must smell like.

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Speaker 2: I got to imagine before Cedarf comes home, he's got a change of clothes that he's got to get into.

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Speaker 1: I would hope. So, poor guy, powering stench.

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Speaker 5: Al Right, I gotta get back.

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Speaker 2: You can hear it in his voice.

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Speaker 1: He's crying, uncle.

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Speaker 5: Just moments earlier, we watched someone climb out of that storm drain using the sewer as shelter water. For her answer is hard to understand.

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Speaker 1: I wonder why sounds like a well adjusted woman. The sewer people are speaking in tongues.

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Speaker 5: But the area eighty eight and South Grand overwhelmed with r v's tense and trash.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Karen Bass has really cleaned up the city. Huh what do you say to her? If you're Matthew Seedorf, take me to your leader.

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Speaker 5: But the area eighty eight and South Grand overwhelmed with r v's tense and trash. Hada, Yes, one Noah with nonprofit clean La with me was picking up garbage here Monday. We've got a lady living down there. When you saw not one but two people emerge from the storm drain.

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Speaker 2: How many sewer people are there?

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of dem down there.

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Speaker 2: Well, And here's something you got to think about when we do these ridiculous homeless counts where Karen baskets to go all over the TV and say that there's been visible reductions in street humes, how many of them were living in the sewer Because I guarantee you they weren't counting down there. Yeah, I can't imagine some Sidy employee with a clipboard going down into the sewer.

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Speaker 5: I can't explain that, you know, a person living like a rot worse than the rot. Come on, hello, And just two weeks ago it happened again. Someone is living another street in South lay another person living underground is a human is a human being.

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Speaker 1: While we asipt in.

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Speaker 2: This every single street that wan Nala is going to, he's finding people living in the sewer.

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Speaker 1: Myth. It's a hell of a drug while we asipting this.

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Speaker 6: Why all the officials they have to do something, They have to fix this problem.

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Speaker 2: Hey, pisces me off.

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Speaker 5: That's why I was like, what should doing for the town to clean neighbor's angry so that.

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Speaker 2: It's got a That's the kind of attitude I would imagine when you live in a part of la where you know government has failed to the point where surrounded by filth.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Tiffany Hattis should be the man on the street in every single crime wrap.

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Speaker 2: Hey kisses me off.

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Speaker 7: That's why I'm saying what.

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Speaker 5: Y'all doing for the telling to.

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Speaker 8: You're voting for bass, That's what I'm saying what y'all doing for the telling to clean neighbor's angry say they've reported the problems but feel ignored, Like we.

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Speaker 1: Need John Hell, we need that money.

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Speaker 2: The public here need that.

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Speaker 5: A shocking snapshot of survival at its lowest point.

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Speaker 9: This person doesn't deserve to live like this, not in even the neighbors.

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Speaker 2: Wan Nala is from Ecuador, which someoneuld be considered a third world country, and he says La is way worse.

00:25:46
Speaker 1: Just wait till the Olympics come to town.

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Speaker 5: So I just kind of statement from the mayor's office about five minutes ago saying.

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Speaker 2: That this is You can hear it in his voice. Even though he has moved away, he has now got a little bit of trauma in his throat from just remembering what that all smelled like, and so he's a little choked up.

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Speaker 1: I feel like sending him one of those Yankee kid gambles.

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Speaker 5: So I just got a statement from the mayor's office about five minutes ago saying that this is tragic and unacceptable and unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: It happened under your watch.

00:26:17
Speaker 1: Yep, you're allowing it to happen, lady.

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Speaker 2: I mean you could argue, oh, we didn't know they were in the sewer. But there's tents in RVs correct surrounding the entire neighborhood. There's so many tents in RVs they had to move underground.

00:26:29
Speaker 1: I want to buy stock and RII.

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Speaker 5: And then they're gonna be out there tomorrow offering resources and help and trying to clean up this area the best they can. Reporting lives to night a Matthew sed or Fox eleven News.

00:26:41
Speaker 2: For as much as we pay to live in this city, nothing works, nothing gets done, and nobody in elected office gets held accountable for any of it.

00:26:53
Speaker 1: All Right, in Los Angeles, we certainly have our problems. So let's move on to a city that definitely works like a Swiss clock.

00:27:02
Speaker 2: The city of Oakland is shutting down a safe RV parking site.

00:27:08
Speaker 1: You don't say, I said.

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Speaker 2: Hell no, baby boy, Let me get up on out of here. For more, here's kron four.

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Speaker 7: More than three dozen people have called the safe RV parking site on seventy first Avenue in Oakland home since it opened back in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: So what does it say if you have a temporary solution that's supposed to get people off the streets and they've been sitting there with their RVs for seven years.

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Speaker 1: If it takes seven years, people end up with medical degrees in that amount of time.

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Speaker 7: And seven years later, notices of permanent closure have been posted on vehicles throughout the lot stating it will no longer be used as a safe parking site.

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Speaker 6: I told us at five o'clock tonight that if all other stuff isn't out of here, they're thrown it away or.

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Speaker 2: Again, they don't want a stereotype, but every single homeless person interviewed on the news has meth voice to a person, every single one.

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Speaker 6: They told us at five o'clock tonight that if all other stuff isn't out of here, they're thrown it away or tone it out of here, and we are subject to your rest.

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Speaker 7: With help from faith and community leaders, the City of Oakland opened the safe parking site to get people off the street and into a more structured environment back in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: How'd that work out? Well, they just need more time.

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Speaker 7: It has been managed by the Housing Consortium of the East Bay. The nonprofit has provided on site security, portable toilets, and showers.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder how much they got paid to do that.

00:28:46
Speaker 1: What do you think the common grounds are like in that particular RV park.

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Speaker 7: But residents say they have not been connected to services that could lead to permanent housing.

00:28:57
Speaker 2: They've been here for seven years.

00:28:58
Speaker 1: I want to be here in those seven years.

00:29:04
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

00:29:06
Speaker 7: You know?

00:29:06
Speaker 1: The high cost of housing is a bit randy.

00:29:09
Speaker 7: Lead to permanent housing.

00:29:11
Speaker 2: We've been here for seven years.

00:29:12
Speaker 1: I'll only be here in those seven years.

00:29:14
Speaker 7: Kenny says. Many of the vehicles in the lot are not in working order. It is located across from the Colisseum Bart station.

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Speaker 1: Now greatful.

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Speaker 2: Oh you've probably seen this one.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's what you walk above when you're on that chain link catwalk to get to the stadium. It's RV's as far as the eye can see. They're active fires. It's wild.

00:29:36
Speaker 2: How happy are you that the A's moved to West Sacramento.

00:29:39
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going there for all four games when the Angels play them in June.

00:29:43
Speaker 9: And we still got our Oakland A's baby.

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Speaker 2: Now it out.

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Speaker 7: It is located across from the Coliseum Bart station.

00:29:49
Speaker 6: Now grateful for the place that we've been here. I've been here for five and a half years. At least I had a place to be.

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Speaker 2: What does it say that you're living in an RV in a safe parking site for five and a half years. We're not helping these people, We're just enabling them to sit there.

00:30:05
Speaker 1: Well, Randy, if they didn't just pull the rug out from under him this fast, he would be in great shape.

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Speaker 6: Station Now grateful for the place that we've been here.

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Speaker 2: Also, that's the third person the interview in this story, meth Voice Station.

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Speaker 6: Now grateful for the place that we've been here. You know, I've been here for five and a half years. At least I had a place to be. But you know that's the promises of getting into a house and not getting that just to go back to the street or use everything I own, and I ou't think guess right.

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Speaker 7: We reached out to.

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Speaker 2: The city we sit there. We promised these people that we're going to build them a one million dollar apartment. Just wait, this solution makes no sense.

00:30:44
Speaker 1: And we have a debate for who's going to be the next governor and we cancel it so we can't even talk about this stuff.

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Speaker 7: We reached out to the City of Oakland and the Housing Consortium of the East Bay for comment on this story. The city confirms it received our inquiry in Oakland Philip Jigol Crown four News.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. No explanation as to why this safe parking site is closing, but it sure seems that if you have people that have been sitting there in their RVs for seven years, this didn't work.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is the telephone number on eight hundred two two two five two two two. If you'd like to email the show, you can do so at Johnny Don't like show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. John Fund joins us at the top of the hour, so make sure you stick around for that. But right now it's time to open up the California Crime Blotterer.

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Speaker 2: It's to catch ship's dummy.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't make this stuff up if we tried.

00:31:49
Speaker 2: I the hell no, very boy, let me get up one out of here.

00:31:53
Speaker 1: It's the California Crime Bloader and Randy. This edition takes us to stock in.

00:32:00
Speaker 2: A meat market in Stockton got broken into, not once, not twice, but thrice in one weekend. Maybe they do a real good short rib for more. Here's on a brisket ABC ten in the Sacramento area.

00:32:22
Speaker 10: It's new tonight, a stocked in meat market is buying hundreds of dollars in new equipment and now considering safety changes after thieves stole from their business three times this past weekend.

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Speaker 9: It was all caught on camera.

00:32:36
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, this place is so popular. They've got repeat customers and repeat thieves.

00:32:41
Speaker 1: Okay, if you're gonna rob a meat market, don't you need a refrigerated truck to do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they stole the meat. I think they stole some of the equipment that is used to process the meat, but I don't actually think they stole filet mignon.

00:33:00
Speaker 1: Maybe they stole the fat.

00:33:01
Speaker 9: It was all caught on camera. ABC ten's and Gabriel Porus has the story tonight stealing so.

00:33:08
Speaker 11: Much equipment and Saturday morning, as they sped off, these thieves didn't even bother to close the truck.

00:33:14
Speaker 12: In the video, you can see when they're literally just loading everything in and out.

00:33:17
Speaker 11: Jess here Nandez wishes he didn't have to see it. A pair of thieves breaking into the back of his meat market in Stockton's, a Marauda area over the weekend, not once or twice, but three times.

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Speaker 12: They took the pressure washer, they took a blower, they took some display racks.

00:33:32
Speaker 1: They took the pressure washer. Boy, that's just adding insult to injury.

00:33:38
Speaker 12: They took a commercial fan that we had.

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Speaker 11: It all started before the sun rose on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Secure, So they took a whole bunch of stuff they could sell to the scrapyard. And I'm sure the upstanding business owner of the scrapyard is not going to ask any questions.

00:33:52
Speaker 1: What do you think the owner of the scrapyard in Stockton looks like?

00:33:58
Speaker 2: I imagine over but one of the buttons is broken.

00:34:02
Speaker 1: Probably.

00:34:03
Speaker 11: Security camera video shows at least two thieves breaking in, floating up and taking off the charcoal. They took the charcoal, about a half charcoal.

00:34:14
Speaker 1: Well, maybe they're going to the beach. It was warm.

00:34:17
Speaker 2: Who steals charcoal?

00:34:22
Speaker 12: The charcoal?

00:34:22
Speaker 1: They took the charcoal.

00:34:23
Speaker 11: About a half hour later they came back for more.

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Speaker 12: We decided to go get a new chain in a new lock that same day after closing, because we wanted to make sure it was going to be closed, and then unfortunately we went to go buy it. We came back, we locked it, and we woke up tomorrow. The next day morning we woke up to it being broken again.

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Speaker 2: Four secrets out this meat market, everything for everything is for grabs.

00:34:45
Speaker 1: Oh you don't want to be known for that.

00:34:47
Speaker 11: For a third time, early Sunday, two thieves break in, steal, and drive away, this time appearing to wear shorts and flipflops.

00:34:55
Speaker 12: It was.

00:34:57
Speaker 1: Laid back thieves.

00:34:59
Speaker 12: It was how casually they just came in and out. It looked like they knew what they were doing. Or we're not a huge corporation, you know what I mean. I literally, you know, me and my wife, we owned the business and we have our team, and it's like, it's not so easy for us to just say, oh yeah, let's just do this, or let's report to insurance and get this and it's gonna happen. We're gonna get it, Like no, we literally have to come out of pocket to go and buy these things.

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Speaker 11: Almost two thousand.

00:35:23
Speaker 2: Nobody haven't get insurance anymore.

00:35:25
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of thieves looking like the beach boys.

00:35:28
Speaker 2: That's the first time I've heard of thieves wearing flippity flappities.

00:35:33
Speaker 1: Okay, so if the thieves are gonna dress like the beach boys, do you think they were there to steal carne Asada or Carnie Wilson.

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Speaker 11: Almost two thousand dollars in equipment, Justin says, plus some more money on security upgrade.

00:35:46
Speaker 12: And if they had the audacity to do it back to back, and there's just people that don't care, so we will be having more cameras and stuff.

00:35:51
Speaker 1: Technically it's back to back to back, but I don't want to reubsult in that wound.

00:35:56
Speaker 12: And if they had the audacity to do it back to back, and.

00:35:59
Speaker 2: There's just people, should I fix it?

00:36:02
Speaker 1: Yeah? Fix it?

00:36:02
Speaker 12: City to do it back to all right, back to back?

00:36:05
Speaker 2: All right, here we go, just so you know we help him. I mean, he was stressed out, but we want to give you the accurate picture.

00:36:12
Speaker 12: And if they had the audacity to do it back to back to back, there.

00:36:15
Speaker 1: You go, all right three PTE like pat Riley.

00:36:19
Speaker 12: And there's just people that don't care. So we will be having more cameras and stuff and be more precautious.

00:36:24
Speaker 11: A small business owner doing what he can and now praying these thieves don't strike again.

00:36:30
Speaker 12: The moment it happened, before the police got here, I went to church and I pray for them. You know what I mean. I prayed for them, and I said, you.

00:36:35
Speaker 2: Know what, God, I don't wait, you prayed for the criminals, or you play you prayed for the fan.

00:36:40
Speaker 1: Well, I'd pray for the criminals too. I'd pray for them to get run over by an eighteen wheeler.

00:36:46
Speaker 12: You know what I mean. I prayed for them, and I said, you know what, God, I don't know why they're doing the things they're doing, but.

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Speaker 1: Math, well, in this particular case, it's probably money if they're taking it to the scrap yard.

00:36:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what are they going to do with that money?

00:37:01
Speaker 1: Well, they're probably professional criminals. This is probably their job. I don't think the meth people could figure out how to do all this.

00:37:08
Speaker 12: I pray that they find peace and they don't continue to do wrong in Stockton.

00:37:13
Speaker 11: Gabriel Porous, ABC.

00:37:14
Speaker 9: Ten, Gabriel, thank you. Law enforcement is investigating the cases. Anyone with information can reach out to Stockton police.

00:37:23
Speaker 2: You see anyone wandering around Stockton in flip flops carrying an industrial power washer, let us know.

00:37:30
Speaker 1: Okay, Stockton, if you allow that meat market to get hit again, you're all going to be vegan. No one wants that what are you going to do