Something Was Watching the Girls at the Ranch… A Florida Bigfoot Story (Monthly Visitations)

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone. In Welcome to Sasquatch Theory. In this episode,
<v Speaker 1>I speak with Karen, a lifelong horsewoman whose experiences stretched
<v Speaker 1>from the ranch lands of Florida all the way to
<v Speaker 1>the strange forest of the Midwest. What started as unexplained
<v Speaker 1>noises outside her window grew into a monthly pattern of
<v Speaker 1>activity that terrified the young woman living on the ranch.
<v Speaker 1>Something with long legs, dark hair, and an unnatural ability
<v Speaker 1>to move quickly was visiting the edge of the property,
<v Speaker 1>bumping into cages, peering through the windows, and pacing the
<v Speaker 1>yard whenever the dogs sounded the alarm. Across the road
<v Speaker 1>sat a state park miles of untouched wilderness, and something
<v Speaker 1>was crossing that boundary at night time. What makes Karen's
<v Speaker 1>story even stranger is how often these visitations coincided with
<v Speaker 1>UFO resorts in the same area, as if the activity
<v Speaker 1>on the ground and in the sky were somehow connected.
<v Speaker 1>In tonight's episode, Karen shares decades of strange encounters that
<v Speaker 1>challenge the line between the physical world and something far
<v Speaker 1>more mysterious. If you enjoy listening to Sasquatch Theory like
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<v Speaker 1>So settle in. Let's step into Karen's world where bigfoot,
<v Speaker 1>UFOs and the unexplained All Clyde Karen, Welcome to Sasquatch Theory.
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing today?
<v Speaker 2>Pretty good?
<v Speaker 1>Good. It's a pleasure to have you on the show, Karen.
<v Speaker 1>If you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
<v Speaker 1>where you're from, and your experiences from the very beginning place.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I grew up in Iowa, and then I
<v Speaker 2>was going to college down at USF in Florida, lived
<v Speaker 2>near Tampa, and so I was going to college and
<v Speaker 2>I had a roommate that I took her to the
<v Speaker 2>American Invitational Horse Show and she goes, I want to
<v Speaker 2>do that, and I go seriously. So we started taking
<v Speaker 2>lessons together out at a farm called Two Rivers Ranch
<v Speaker 2>Two Rivers Hunt Club, which was just it's at the
<v Speaker 2>address is actually Zephyr Hills, but it was like across
<v Speaker 2>from the state park, and there was fox hunters out there,
<v Speaker 2>and there was a riding instructor and she gave hunt
<v Speaker 2>seat lessons and we started taking lessons. I was doing good.
<v Speaker 2>My roommate petered out and quit taking lessons, and I
<v Speaker 2>kept going out there, and then eventually I moved out there,
<v Speaker 2>and I was taking care of the fox hounds and
<v Speaker 2>living on a ranch, and I had a couple of
<v Speaker 2>cocker spaniels and it was an open area where the
<v Speaker 2>kitchen and dining room kind of all runs together, and
<v Speaker 2>then between the kitchen and dining room there was a
<v Speaker 2>hallway that went towards the outside, and in that hallway
<v Speaker 2>of the off of that hallway was a little washroom
<v Speaker 2>and I used to keep my cocker spaniels in that
<v Speaker 2>little room. And one we used to I had sometimes
<v Speaker 2>I had two roommates, but usually I just had one roommate,
<v Speaker 2>and about once a month, and I'm telling you, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize that at the time, but it was pretty
<v Speaker 2>much on a regular basis, like a once a month,
<v Speaker 2>and we would hear noises outside, and you know how
<v Speaker 2>when you are inside and you can't see outside because
<v Speaker 2>your lights are on, So we'd hurry up and try
<v Speaker 2>to get the lights off. But by the time we
<v Speaker 2>got the lights off to look out the window to
<v Speaker 2>see what was out there. It would be gone and
<v Speaker 2>we could hear it, and it was a wooshing, and
<v Speaker 2>it would It had to have had long legs because
<v Speaker 2>you could, you know how you can hear that it's
<v Speaker 2>close and then you can hear that it's far. It
<v Speaker 2>traveled fast. It was very fast, so it had to
<v Speaker 2>have long legs. Anyway, my dogs one night they were
<v Speaker 2>barking like bloody murder, barking like they were scared. And
<v Speaker 2>I had cleaned their kennel and it was laying out
<v Speaker 2>on the yard outside of the house area off that hallway,
<v Speaker 2>and the bigfoot bumped into that cage and that's the
<v Speaker 2>only reason why I saw him. And I only saw
<v Speaker 2>the back of him, and he was hairy, he was dark,
<v Speaker 2>and he was kind of like pumped over, like a
<v Speaker 2>slouched back. But he was tall, but his legs were long,
<v Speaker 2>his torso was short, his legs were long. I didn't
<v Speaker 2>ever see his face. But when these things would happen
<v Speaker 2>once a month, uh, you know, us girls in the house,
<v Speaker 2>we would be scared and we'd call the ranch foreman
<v Speaker 2>because you know, we didn't know what it was. We
<v Speaker 2>you know, is it a window peaker? We were on
<v Speaker 2>a ranch. I mean the property was huge. I mean
<v Speaker 2>the along the highway. It was six miles that the
<v Speaker 2>property was six miles along the highway, and so there
<v Speaker 2>was only three houses on the ranch, the riding instructor,
<v Speaker 2>us and the ranch foreman, and there was nothing across
<v Speaker 2>the road. Across the road was the state park, so
<v Speaker 2>there was no houses anywhere around. So like if somebody
<v Speaker 2>was out there window packing, they would have had to
<v Speaker 2>have driven there, which we never heard any cars anyway.
<v Speaker 2>So we'd call the ranch foreman and he pooh pooed us.
<v Speaker 2>He would come, but I mean he's driving up in
<v Speaker 2>his pickup truck with his headlights on with his engine running,
<v Speaker 2>so you know, of course he would never see it.
<v Speaker 2>And then when he talked to us, he'd go, oh,
<v Speaker 2>it's probably just an armadillo. And we knew it couldn't
<v Speaker 2>have been an armadillo. It couldn't travel. It traveled faster
<v Speaker 2>than armadelic could go. So we never the ranch forman
<v Speaker 2>never helped us at all. Eventually, Robert Thomas, the owner
<v Speaker 2>of the ranch, kicked us off. He kicked everybody off,
<v Speaker 2>He kicked the fox unders off, people boarded horses out, there.
<v Speaker 2>He kicked them all off. He just wanted it to
<v Speaker 2>be a cattle ranch. But I didn't notice at the time,
<v Speaker 2>and I never thought to look at see if I
<v Speaker 2>could see any footprints, or even when he tripped over
<v Speaker 2>my dog cage, if I could get any hairs off
<v Speaker 2>of the dog cage. You know, if I had it
<v Speaker 2>to do over again, i'd look for hairs so they
<v Speaker 2>could do a DNA on it. Nowadays they do DNA,
<v Speaker 2>they didn't really back then. This was in the nineteen seventies,
<v Speaker 2>late seventies, and so I didn't realize it at the time,
<v Speaker 2>but afterwards, maybe five ten years afterwards, it dawned on
<v Speaker 2>me that I remember hearing that there would be like
<v Speaker 2>a UFO report, like I could. You'd hear it on
<v Speaker 2>the radio that somebody reported a UFO, And it dawned
<v Speaker 2>on me years later that we would see we would
<v Speaker 2>hear the Bigfoot about the same time that there would
<v Speaker 2>be a UFO report or some UFO reports. I never
<v Speaker 2>put the two or two together at the time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is very interesting. So you're saying when the
<v Speaker 1>UFO reports would take place, it was the same timeframe
<v Speaker 1>when you were experiencing Bigfoot activity.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it was always a full moon too.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, So you feel like the sasquatch would become
<v Speaker 1>active when it was a full moon. That's interesting. I've
<v Speaker 1>heard a lot of people mention that same behavior. Do
<v Speaker 1>you feel like the bigfoot was possibly attracted to you
<v Speaker 1>and the other girls or maybe it was fixed on
<v Speaker 1>the dogs? What are your thoughts about that?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was us girls.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it had been watching you guys through the windows,
<v Speaker 1>which is creepy, but I mean the noises that you've
<v Speaker 1>that you heard out there, you couldn't dismiss there was
<v Speaker 1>definitely someone or something outside and.
<v Speaker 2>When yes, we could hear the footsteps, we could hear
<v Speaker 2>it washing away.
<v Speaker 1>Was it like like thump thump thump thump thump away
<v Speaker 1>or like what did it sound like? Like a swishing sound.
<v Speaker 2>Like whosh whosh whosh whosh whosh, like a big stride,
<v Speaker 2>like big strides going through grass.
<v Speaker 1>M So it's seem to know when you guys were
<v Speaker 1>alerted to its presence and when you got up and
<v Speaker 1>turn on the lights and you were ready to check outside,
<v Speaker 1>like it.
<v Speaker 2>Knew that No, we had our lights on and we
<v Speaker 2>would turn them off. Okay, so we could see outside,
<v Speaker 2>because you know how when you're inside and you have
<v Speaker 2>your lights on inside at night, you can't see outside.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, that completely makes sense. I feel like the
<v Speaker 1>creature was coming from the state park. Do you remember
<v Speaker 1>the name of the state park?
<v Speaker 2>No, but it's on Highway through OH One south of
<v Speaker 2>Zephyr Hills, between Zephyr Hills and Tampa.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I'll look it up and see what I
<v Speaker 1>can find.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just Florida State Park.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and yeah, that's speak.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he probably was over in the state park. I'm
<v Speaker 2>going to guess. Yeah, Robert, I'm a senior owned half
<v Speaker 2>of Florida, and he donated the property of the state
<v Speaker 2>park to the state so that trespassers wouldn't come on
<v Speaker 2>the ranch property. That's what young Robert told me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Could you ever smell anything unusual when you were there?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but I don't I mean, this is a long
<v Speaker 2>time ago. Now, this was in the seventies, so I
<v Speaker 2>don't really remember it. But but yes, I mean I
<v Speaker 2>can't say that we smelled it every time because we
<v Speaker 2>didn't you go outside. We'd call the ranch foreman and
<v Speaker 2>the ranch worm when we would come and knock on
<v Speaker 2>the door and stuff, and he looked around before he
<v Speaker 2>knocked on the door. And then he'd knocked on the
<v Speaker 2>door and asked, Okay, what happened and whatever. But and
<v Speaker 2>so we never went outside at that pint. The only
<v Speaker 2>time I went outside was when he tripped over the
<v Speaker 2>cage and I saw him and I went outside to
<v Speaker 2>check my dogs. That's the only time I saw him,
<v Speaker 2>And that's the only time I went outside. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>So this bigfoot creature tripped over the dog cage when
<v Speaker 1>it tried to flee the area.
<v Speaker 2>Yep? Wow?
<v Speaker 1>How big? Would you estimate the creature to be?
<v Speaker 2>Maybe seven or eight feet?
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like it was just one or do
<v Speaker 1>you feel like it was a clan of sasquatch, skunk ape,
<v Speaker 1>swamp apes, whatever you want to call him.
<v Speaker 2>I felt like it was just one. But it could
<v Speaker 2>be that there were others not close, but we would
<v Speaker 2>only hear one. Every month when we would hear the noise,
<v Speaker 2>it would only be one.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very possible there were multiple creatures, but from
<v Speaker 1>the sounds of it, this was one that was on
<v Speaker 1>its own. People talk about them getting kicked out of
<v Speaker 1>the group, and when they get kicked out, they'll they'll
<v Speaker 1>approach people's properties and try to steal food, and they
<v Speaker 1>become pretty territorial. I don't know for sure, but it's
<v Speaker 1>just information that's been gathered over time. And yeah, how
<v Speaker 1>did your dogs react when the activity first started? Did
<v Speaker 1>they growl, bark? Did they just look look at a
<v Speaker 1>tent like? Were they just very attentive?
<v Speaker 2>Like?
<v Speaker 1>Can you describe that a little bit more? I know
<v Speaker 1>they they lost their mind the last time.
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, when he when he tripped over the cage,
<v Speaker 2>they were barking like crazy. They would bark other times,
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't as blood curtling as that one time
<v Speaker 2>when I saw him. So I don't know how close
<v Speaker 2>he was before, like me, maybe he never really got
<v Speaker 2>close enough before, you know, like the every month when
<v Speaker 2>we'd hear the noise the washing outside, It's possible that
<v Speaker 2>he was going to look in the windows, and then
<v Speaker 2>when we hear the noise, we'd run in, turn the
<v Speaker 2>lights off, and that would scare him away, and then
<v Speaker 2>he'd run away, and then he never really got to
<v Speaker 2>look in the windows. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's frightening. I can't imagine how you felt. My
<v Speaker 1>friend Steve, he had a wiener dog, and we were
<v Speaker 1>camping in a bigfoot area where the property owner was
<v Speaker 1>having activity. And you know, like most dogs, when they
<v Speaker 1>were sitting on your lap and something gets their attention,
<v Speaker 1>they'll jump off your lap and just start barking in
<v Speaker 1>the woodline or you know, approach whatever it is. He
<v Speaker 1>didn't do that. Like when he sat on his lap
<v Speaker 1>and the sasquatch approached, he just lifted his head look intent,
<v Speaker 1>like he was looking intently and he would growl and
<v Speaker 1>that was it. Did your dogs do anything like that?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know it was out in the country,
<v Speaker 2>so you always think it's just an armadillo or you know,
<v Speaker 2>something else that they're growling at or barking at.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, for sure. And I mean, I'm sure there's
<v Speaker 1>a ton of people out there that have never ever
<v Speaker 1>experienced bigfoot activity, but they've had moments where their dogs
<v Speaker 1>are just growling and barking at something and when they
<v Speaker 1>go and check, they just never see anything. And most
<v Speaker 1>likely there's there's definitely something out there. The dogs won't
<v Speaker 1>bark unless there's really something. I mean, it could be
<v Speaker 1>a mouse, it could be a squirrel, or it could
<v Speaker 1>be a sessquatch. You just never know. Yeah, man, but
<v Speaker 1>that's frightening.
<v Speaker 2>But since this noise thing would happen, and like I said,
<v Speaker 2>we didn't know if it was a window peaker like
<v Speaker 2>a person. Since that happened, like it started happening on
<v Speaker 2>a regular basis, and we would hear it washing away
<v Speaker 2>real fast, faster than a human could go. I'm gonna say.
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say that it was faster than a
<v Speaker 2>human could go. Wow. And and when and when we
<v Speaker 2>after a while, you know, when we would hear that,
<v Speaker 2>and we didn't still didn't know what it was at
<v Speaker 2>the time, you know, but because when I saw it,
<v Speaker 2>that was like one of the last times that I
<v Speaker 2>was there. Because Robert kicked everybody off the land eventually,
<v Speaker 2>not because of us seeing, you know, calling the ranch
<v Speaker 2>foreman every month. It wasn't because that he just wanted
<v Speaker 2>to get rid of the English writing people. He wanted
<v Speaker 2>it to be just a cattle ranch. But and and
<v Speaker 2>he's and it is still a cattle ranch. You can't
<v Speaker 2>go on it as private property. But I did sneak
<v Speaker 2>up the driveway one time, long long time ago, years
<v Speaker 2>later though, but I don't live down there anymore.
<v Speaker 1>So, Yeah, the UFO reports and the bigfoot activity. Was
<v Speaker 1>there ever any animals that were killed mysteriously, any animal
<v Speaker 1>mutilations anything like that.
<v Speaker 2>No, no, but I'll tell you what. I had animal
<v Speaker 2>mutilations when I lived in southern Iowa.
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like one time my our cat was skinned and
<v Speaker 2>half of it and half and they threw it in
<v Speaker 2>the window will in our window Will. I just thought
<v Speaker 2>it was hunters and and that didn't ask for permission
<v Speaker 2>to hunt out there, and I was very pissed about that.
<v Speaker 2>But that happened a couple times where whatever it was
<v Speaker 2>killed a cat. Wow, And like I said, I thought
<v Speaker 2>it was just hunters being mean.
<v Speaker 1>So it like skinned it and you can tell like
<v Speaker 1>like it didn't look like someone used a knife.
<v Speaker 2>Well no, it didn't really looked like they just pulled
<v Speaker 2>the skin off.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I found the same thing in the middle of the trail,
<v Speaker 1>except it was a squirrel. And I know, like when
<v Speaker 1>hunters kill a squirrel, like there's this method of cleaning
<v Speaker 1>them where you just pull all the hide off. It
<v Speaker 1>looked like that, except a hunter didn't do it, and
<v Speaker 1>then they put it right in the middle of the trail.
<v Speaker 1>And sasquatch are done to do that. Where did it
<v Speaker 1>leave the cat.
<v Speaker 2>In our window? Will in the house?
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Yeah, so it almost seems like whatever it
<v Speaker 1>was was sending you a message.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it did kind of seem like that, or like.
<v Speaker 1>It gave you the feeling that you're being watched, or
<v Speaker 1>someone's out there, someone or something.
<v Speaker 2>Well, we did have people come in southern Iowa. Lived
<v Speaker 2>on a farm too, and it was a big farm,
<v Speaker 2>so there wasn't very many houses there, and it was
<v Speaker 2>gravel to our house and then passed our house, it
<v Speaker 2>was dirt, a dirt road down a hill, and we
<v Speaker 2>did have people come out. Some people would ask permission,
<v Speaker 2>but okay, So for example, a guy would ask permission,
<v Speaker 2>and I'd give him permission, and I would say, but
<v Speaker 2>I want to know when you come and when you leave.
<v Speaker 2>And then because I gave that guy permission and he's
<v Speaker 2>got a party of four or five people whatever, then
<v Speaker 2>the other party thinks that just because I gave that
<v Speaker 2>guy permission that on time, that now he automatically has permission.
<v Speaker 2>So then they would take it upon themselves to come
<v Speaker 2>out and hunt on the land without asking, thinking they
<v Speaker 2>had permission, which they didn't. It could have been a
<v Speaker 2>hunter that did that cat thing?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it could have been, but it's certainly something to
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind. Not too long ago, I had a
<v Speaker 1>lady contact me from Florida. She never gave her report
<v Speaker 1>on the channel, but we talked a little bit and
<v Speaker 1>she said she saw something massive and hairy and she
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what it was, and something was braiding her
<v Speaker 1>pony's hair. And she actually got really good video footage
<v Speaker 1>of it. And it was braiding their hair and she
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what it was.
<v Speaker 2>But it was dark and Harry, Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a non known creature.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever notice anything like that on the ranch
<v Speaker 1>where they were braiding the horse's hair.
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't. I didn't even notice any horses. Like
<v Speaker 2>you know, if if a animal would, like say a
<v Speaker 2>bobcat or something like that, would come into the stable,
<v Speaker 2>the horses would make noise, they'd winny and you know,
<v Speaker 2>stomp around their stalls and stuff like that. And I
<v Speaker 2>never saw any of that. I don't notice any of
<v Speaker 2>the horses going wild in the barn at all, and
<v Speaker 2>we weren't too far from the barn. I would have
<v Speaker 2>heard them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So that night that the sasquatch was out there
<v Speaker 1>and he tripped over the cage. You didn't hear the
<v Speaker 1>horses going nuts or anything like that.
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that is interesting. I've also heard people mention
<v Speaker 1>in stud like, you know, sometimes the dogs they go
<v Speaker 1>crazy and they'll start barking, growling, looking intently. Sometimes the
<v Speaker 1>dogs just stay asleep through the entire situation. Did you
<v Speaker 1>have ever noticed that when things were happening outside, like
<v Speaker 1>the dogs were sedated?
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm? I mean there might have been one of those
<v Speaker 2>monthly visits that that might have happened where the dogs
<v Speaker 2>weren't making any noise at all. There might have been
<v Speaker 2>sometimes like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, this was back in the seventies, so
<v Speaker 2>I don't really remember a lot did the I do
<v Speaker 2>remember seeing him, though, I'm never going to forget that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, that's a day to remember for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Did they did they ever tap on the window? Tap
<v Speaker 1>tap tap tap, anything like that?
<v Speaker 2>No?
<v Speaker 1>No, what all did they do when they're outside? Months
<v Speaker 1>from more?
<v Speaker 2>I remember what the noise was that we were hearing.
<v Speaker 2>I just remember that we were hearing noises like probably
<v Speaker 2>just walking around or something.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so something moving around outside and things banging around.
<v Speaker 2>Possibly, Yeah, just noises because like I said, we didn't
<v Speaker 2>know what it was.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know what's more terrifying having some creep
<v Speaker 1>peeping through the windows or walking outside and seeing a sasquatch.
<v Speaker 1>I think I'd picked the Sasquatch.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Because now that it's all these years
<v Speaker 2>later and everything, and now you hear about abductions and
<v Speaker 2>UFO reports and different things. Now I think, well, you know,
<v Speaker 2>am I lucky that I didn't get abducted like UFO
<v Speaker 2>would be deducted? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean you make a very valid point. I
<v Speaker 1>have noticed when there's Sasquatch activity, I'm also seeing strange
<v Speaker 1>things up in the skies. I rarely talk about it,
<v Speaker 1>but it is something that happens, and I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if it's a coincidence or or if they're connected. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know. One day I was hearing something walking around
<v Speaker 1>outside in the woods. It was nighttime. It definitely sounded
<v Speaker 1>by pedal and it sounded like, I don't know, like
<v Speaker 1>trees were being pushed over, not big ones, but smaller trees.
<v Speaker 1>And at the same time I look up and there's
<v Speaker 1>these really strange lights up in the sky. So I'm
<v Speaker 1>having a hard time figuring out like do I want
<v Speaker 1>to pay attention to this in the woods or what's
<v Speaker 1>going on above me? And it was weird for sure,
<v Speaker 1>and it's.
<v Speaker 2>Not the first time it's related. Do you ever think
<v Speaker 2>it's related?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like there's some sort of energy anomaly
<v Speaker 1>taking place. And if the Sasquatch truly are interdimensional and
<v Speaker 1>they're utilizing portals, then other things are coming through, whether
<v Speaker 1>it's spiritual beings as far as the paranormal and UFO activity,
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like they're all using the same doorways
<v Speaker 1>and there's just other dimensions and other worlds right in
<v Speaker 1>front of us.
<v Speaker 2>Like I never thought of it before when it was happening,
<v Speaker 2>but now it's that I'm older and I look back
<v Speaker 2>at it and you hear all this other stuff. Now
<v Speaker 2>when I look back at it, I think that it's
<v Speaker 2>possible that well, before I thought it was just a
<v Speaker 2>rare animal that nobody ever sees. But it's not like
<v Speaker 2>it's an alien or it comes here from another planet
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. But now I don't know. I
<v Speaker 2>think that it's possible looking back on it now, that
<v Speaker 2>it could be that Bigfoot is not of this world.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely think so, because like, how do tracks
<v Speaker 1>just disappear in the middle of a field when there's
<v Speaker 1>snow out and nobody finds the remains? Like when one
<v Speaker 1>eyes or any of the bones and the orbs that
<v Speaker 1>are associated with the activity, the static sounds, the metal
<v Speaker 1>doors just shutting, and I don't know, there's all kinds
<v Speaker 1>of strange things the mind speak. I've never experienced that,
<v Speaker 1>but I've heard a lot of people talk about it,
<v Speaker 1>and it's just something you can't dismiss because there's too
<v Speaker 1>many people talking about the same things that don't even
<v Speaker 1>know each other, and the behavior definitely lines up and
<v Speaker 1>correlates with each story.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I never talked to about it to anybody
<v Speaker 2>because if I did, I thought they would think that
<v Speaker 2>I was crazy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you ever tell the other girls what you saw?
<v Speaker 1>Did they see it too?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were all wondering what it was. We all
<v Speaker 2>thought it was a window peaker, and you know, we
<v Speaker 2>were all running around the house and we'd call the
<v Speaker 2>ranch forman and the ranch form and would just say, oh,
<v Speaker 2>it's probably just an Armadill said that every time. And
<v Speaker 2>you know, so, like I said, at the time, we
<v Speaker 2>didn't have any idea what it was We just knew
<v Speaker 2>that we heard noises outside. And I'm trying to think
<v Speaker 2>if I had any roommates the time that I saw him,
<v Speaker 2>because seems like to me, nobody at least nobody else
<v Speaker 2>was home. If I had roommates at the time, nobody
<v Speaker 2>else was home that time that I saw him. Nobody
<v Speaker 2>else was home. It was just me and my dogs.
<v Speaker 2>But the other times when we would hear noises and stuff, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>they'd be home. We'd all try to run to the
<v Speaker 2>lights to turn them off so we could see outside.
<v Speaker 2>We'd rush to the windows to see outside, and we'd
<v Speaker 2>be calling the ransforming and we didn't have cell phones
<v Speaker 2>at the time, you know, and so we just had
<v Speaker 2>to call on the landline and he would just have
<v Speaker 2>to jump in his truck and drive down to us. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>How many seconds would you say the encounter lasted? Was
<v Speaker 1>it just like a quarter of a second or was
<v Speaker 1>it a few seconds?
<v Speaker 2>Uh? You mean the monthly visits?
<v Speaker 1>No, the encounter where the sasquatch tripped over the cage, Like,
<v Speaker 1>how long was the sighting?
<v Speaker 2>Oh? How long did I see him? Yeah? Just to
<v Speaker 2>just a couple of seconds, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then it just vanished into the darkness.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and by the time I got out in the
<v Speaker 2>hallway towards the outside to check on my dogs, it
<v Speaker 2>was gone. And of course I was scared as hell,
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't really want to confront if it. If
<v Speaker 2>it was an animal, I didn't really want to confront it. Wow,
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be near it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't blame you. Chances are the creature came
<v Speaker 1>back once you went back inside. He couldn't have gone far.
<v Speaker 2>If he did. I didn't hear him, because you could
<v Speaker 2>usually hear him.
<v Speaker 1>Usually they'll run back into the woods and hide behind
<v Speaker 1>a tree and just stand there and observe. I'm not
<v Speaker 1>saying that's what it did, but it's very possible.
<v Speaker 2>Who. Well, that creeps me out.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, these creatures rarely mess up, but every
<v Speaker 1>now and then they do mess up. And it sounds
<v Speaker 1>like this creature tripped over the cage when he thought
<v Speaker 1>he was being sneaky.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was a wire cage, so it wasn't like
<v Speaker 2>a plastic kennel, so he obviously didn't see it.
<v Speaker 1>Was it in a different spot than what, like where
<v Speaker 1>you would usually put it or do you always put
<v Speaker 1>it in the same place?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Usually it was in that little side room and
<v Speaker 2>it was cleaning it, so it was sitting right outside
<v Speaker 2>the house.
<v Speaker 1>No, dang, Yeah, you caught him off guard.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah wow.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, maybe maybe you got lucky. You never know,
<v Speaker 1>because there's like a lot of missing people reports. You
<v Speaker 1>don't know what this thing was up to. Maybe they
<v Speaker 1>are nice, they're kind creatures, or maybe they have other
<v Speaker 1>intentions and they're waiting to grab you.
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to say, yeah, well, I'm glad I was
<v Speaker 2>as far as I know, I've never been abducted.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's hard to say, right.
<v Speaker 2>And the name if it can make you lose your
<v Speaker 2>memory of it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there is that a lot of people have said
<v Speaker 1>that if you see a UFO, that you've actually been
<v Speaker 1>abducted and it's just them bringing you back. You just
<v Speaker 1>can't remember when you were abducted, which is kind of
<v Speaker 1>scary to think.
<v Speaker 2>Hmm.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you got lucky in this case. And it
<v Speaker 1>sounds like he wasn't trying to hurt you guys, and
<v Speaker 1>he was just really curious. Maybe he was looking for food.
<v Speaker 1>The Native Americans say they're attracted to women and children,
<v Speaker 1>and in this case, they were definitely watching the girls.
<v Speaker 2>And we were young and we were fair looking. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>How old were you at the time, twenty ish? Okay, Well,
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's a tactic that I need to try, is
<v Speaker 1>bring a group of girls out the next time I
<v Speaker 1>go bigfooting and maybe they'll come in.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he might not come if he sees you, though,
<v Speaker 2>you gotta hide.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's when my friend David from a place called
<v Speaker 1>the Killing Fields, he said they won't come up to
<v Speaker 1>you because you always have your cameras out, and that
<v Speaker 1>kind of I don't know. That hit me hard, and
<v Speaker 1>I sat there and thought about it. I was like,
<v Speaker 1>maybe he's right. I'm always out there with my cameras
<v Speaker 1>on a tripod and they see all the gear and
<v Speaker 1>they don't approach me because when I'm not there, like
<v Speaker 1>people that are camping on that same campground have activity,
<v Speaker 1>but they don't have any cameras. They're just out there,
<v Speaker 1>you know, relaxing and enjoying nature.
<v Speaker 2>Thing about this this thing knows when you have a
<v Speaker 2>camera and when you don't. Oh yeah, sure it knows.
<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't it's not just because it sees it
<v Speaker 2>somehow or other else. It knows.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. If I lived out in the woods and
<v Speaker 1>I was observing people. I'm not going to approach the
<v Speaker 1>people that have firearms or things that I can't understand.
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to wait till they go to sleep to
<v Speaker 1>harass them. I'm not saying I would do that. I'm
<v Speaker 1>just saying if if I lived out in the woods,
<v Speaker 1>like I definitely want to approach people if things seemed
<v Speaker 1>if he I feel like Sasquatch has that same ability,
<v Speaker 1>like it knows that something's not right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know if it's just instinct or if
<v Speaker 2>they have some kind of other sense.
<v Speaker 1>Definitely other senses and an intelligence that goes beyond our understanding. Yeah, yeah, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>do you have any other experiences that you can think
<v Speaker 1>of the maybe popped up into your mind as we
<v Speaker 1>were talking about everything, anything that we forgot.
<v Speaker 2>Well, you were talking about UFOs, and I have seen
<v Speaker 2>a UFO at times in other places. In fact, I
<v Speaker 2>live in Wisconsin now and I and I know that
<v Speaker 2>I saw a UFO here in Wisconsin living on our property.
<v Speaker 2>So in the back pasture it's looking north and it
<v Speaker 2>was a kind of looked like a blimp, like it
<v Speaker 2>was just oval like you see people say tiktoks, but
<v Speaker 2>it was close closer then you know, a far away
<v Speaker 2>TikTok would look. And so it looked bigger like a blimp,
<v Speaker 2>and it was going along and it was going east,
<v Speaker 2>and then the clouds covered it up, and then by
<v Speaker 2>the time the clouds dispersed, it was gone. Wow. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I seen the same thing when I was in South
<v Speaker 1>Carolina traveling to a place called the Stump House Tunnel,
<v Speaker 1>and on my way there, I noticed something that looked
<v Speaker 1>like a blimp, and I convinced myself that's what it was.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not really sure. Maybe it was a blimp,
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was a UFO, but it was strange.
<v Speaker 2>But now are you But you're saying, if you've seen one,
<v Speaker 2>then you were abducted. You just don't have a memory
<v Speaker 2>of it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that's what people say, especially the people that
<v Speaker 1>are driving when they see one, or they wake up
<v Speaker 1>and they see lights outside their house and or a UFO.
<v Speaker 1>And that's scary to think about because I've had situations
<v Speaker 1>like the I hope I I haven't been abducted. Me too,
<v Speaker 1>because you hear a lot of stories where people wake
<v Speaker 1>up and there's like a gray alien standing next to
<v Speaker 1>their bed. I feel like there's a lot more to
<v Speaker 1>it than they just woke up and saw gray alien.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's just the missing that's just a
<v Speaker 1>piece to the giant puzzle.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I have seen some what I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if they were UFOs or not, out my window at
<v Speaker 2>the same time every morning. But now it's not out
<v Speaker 2>that window anymore. It's out this other window. And then
<v Speaker 2>when I told my husband about it, he said, oh,
<v Speaker 2>it's probably just a drone, or he'd say, oh, it's
<v Speaker 2>probably just a satellite. And it could be, but I
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's a satellite because it's in a different
<v Speaker 2>place all the time, And if it was a satellite,
<v Speaker 2>you know, orbiting, it would be you could tell that
<v Speaker 2>it was in an orbit and it's in a different place.
<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, it's very likely it could be. You don't
<v Speaker 1>happen to live close to Hayward, do you, Hayward, Wisconsin.
<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of strange reports from that area,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure there's stranges.
<v Speaker 2>Where is it near the Dells?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm not familiar with that.
<v Speaker 2>The Dells is like a vacation area. It's like that
<v Speaker 2>water park capital of the world.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, you never know. I mean, definitely keep an
<v Speaker 1>eye out for future activity and you might see something extraordinary.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I keep watching the skies because the Earth is wobbling.
<v Speaker 2>If you look at the moon, the Moon's orbit is
<v Speaker 2>not normal, and it's not the Moon, it's the Earth.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll keep an eye out for that in the future.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, if you experience anything else in the future,
<v Speaker 1>especially bigfoot activity, contact me and give me an update
<v Speaker 1>as to how things unfold later on in your life.
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of any bigfoots up here in Wisconsin
<v Speaker 2>where I'm from, but where I'm living now, but on
<v Speaker 2>my way from my home over to bear a Boo
<v Speaker 2>out in the country, there is a house and they
<v Speaker 2>have like a silhouette of a bigfoot. So I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if those people have ever seen a bigfoot out
<v Speaker 2>there in the woods. And then they just made a
<v Speaker 2>sign up that it looks like a bigfoot, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like a yard decoration. M h. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I always wonder that back they have it by their driveway.
<v Speaker 1>M Yeah. Anyone that puts one of those out, they
<v Speaker 1>automatically become a suspect in my eyes that possibly they've
<v Speaker 1>seen a sasquatch before. Yeah, never know'd be worth.
<v Speaker 2>Asking anything they could be around here. I haven't seen
<v Speaker 2>any around here though.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think the last report I took from Wisconsin
<v Speaker 1>was from a place called Wakoma I think is what
<v Speaker 1>it's called. What Toma, that's what it is. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that was the last place.
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of Indian names up here.
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, yeah, I've noticed that.
<v Speaker 2>Another There is another weird thing up here near bear
<v Speaker 2>a Boo, which is only about twenty miles from from me.
<v Speaker 2>There is one of those man mounds. There's man Mound Park.
<v Speaker 2>It's if you heard of those mounds. Yeah, big mounds
<v Speaker 2>that people build. Well, they didn't realize it, and they
<v Speaker 2>put the road across it, so they cut his feet off.
<v Speaker 2>Then after somehow or other, some somewhere along the line,
<v Speaker 2>they realized that it was a man mound. And now
<v Speaker 2>it's preserved and they have like I guess they do
<v Speaker 2>spray paint around it, so it has like a weird
<v Speaker 2>shaped head like it looks like it could be an alien.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, some of these man mounds, they take
<v Speaker 2>some I don't know, some kind of X ray machinery
<v Speaker 2>and they they try to see what's under in the
<v Speaker 2>buried in the ground, and they they think that there's
<v Speaker 2>giants buried in the Man Mounds.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Yeah, that's all the theory. There's giants buried
<v Speaker 1>underneath these mounds.
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if anybody's ever looked at Man
<v Speaker 2>Mound Park over in Bearboo, but I'd be curious to
<v Speaker 2>see if there's anything buried under there. No, but I
<v Speaker 2>went to visit there. I only went there one time,
<v Speaker 2>and I had weird feelings when I would visit it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Here in Missouri there's a lot of mounds, and
<v Speaker 1>in Illinois on both sides of the Mississippi River, and
<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis is actually known as Mound City, and some
<v Speaker 1>of the mounds they look like pyramids from Egypt they're
<v Speaker 1>so big, and a lot of people speculate that there's
<v Speaker 1>giants that are buried underneath the mounds, and people have
<v Speaker 1>had strange supernatural encrypted encounters by the mounds. Yeah. Ohio
<v Speaker 1>is another one. They have the Serpent Mound there and
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of other mounds, and of course in Ohio
<v Speaker 1>there's the Ohio Grassman and a ton of supernatural activity
<v Speaker 1>taking place. I didn't know Wisconsin had the mounds too,
<v Speaker 1>So that's really interesting. It definitely points towards an ancient
<v Speaker 1>civilization that was connected all throughout North America.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I never even heard about giants until recently. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't really, you know, like the Bible talks
<v Speaker 2>about the Nephelem and the repem and stuff. I never
<v Speaker 2>even paid it. Even if I read the Bible, I
<v Speaker 2>never never dawned on me that they were talking about giants.
<v Speaker 2>I mean the only giant I ever heard about was
<v Speaker 2>David Goliath. Mm.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, this stuff goes way back.
<v Speaker 2>I guess there's there's saying that there's giants and that
<v Speaker 2>they are going to come back. Mm hmm.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's what's interesting is the crypti phenomenon is a
<v Speaker 1>global phenomenon, and the giant the giant humans, that's a
<v Speaker 1>global phenomenon. And not only that, where they find the
<v Speaker 1>giant skeletons and the mounds or areas where the bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>or dog man reports are I'm from, it's all the
<v Speaker 1>same areas. Oh and the missing people too, They're all
<v Speaker 1>in the same areas on the maps, and you can
<v Speaker 1>just see a clump of reports in each area. So
<v Speaker 1>there seems to be a correlation between them all.
<v Speaker 2>Well, we have a missing person from our town, a
<v Speaker 2>boy three years ago. He was thirteen, he just had
<v Speaker 2>a he would have had a sixteen year old birthday,
<v Speaker 2>and he's missing.
<v Speaker 1>Did they ever find him?
<v Speaker 2>No, he's not found yet.
<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, I make you wonder. Did he go missing
<v Speaker 1>in the forest.
<v Speaker 2>Devil's Lake State Park?
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Yeah, well, yeah, that makes you wonder, especially since
<v Speaker 1>it happened at a state park. What was the name
<v Speaker 1>of the state.
<v Speaker 2>Park, Devil's Lake State Park.
<v Speaker 1>Well, that makes it even worse. It's got devil in
<v Speaker 1>the name. I mean, I'm saying that because I've heard
<v Speaker 1>a lot of places that have Douvile in it have
<v Speaker 1>had cryptid encounters like here, they have like the Devil's backbone,
<v Speaker 1>the Devil's elbow. All those places are Sasquatch areas where
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of reports.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah there. I have heard that there are other people
<v Speaker 2>that have gone missing at Devil's Lake, but I am
<v Speaker 2>only aware of one local resident.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes you wonder. A country that was found
<v Speaker 1>on Christianity, why would they name a place Devil's Lake.
<v Speaker 1>There had been something bad that happened, there is something supernatural,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, why else would you.
<v Speaker 2>Name with that. Well, the story that I heard is
<v Speaker 2>that the people from Chicago wanted to have an adventurous getaway,
<v Speaker 2>so they named the lake Devil's Lake to give the
<v Speaker 2>Chicagoan's an adventurous place to go to, you know, to
<v Speaker 2>hype it up. I mean, that's the story that I heard.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's any other stories around out there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting because where I was talking about here
<v Speaker 1>in Missouri, the Devil's Backbone. They said the mob from
<v Speaker 1>or I don't know where they're from. I think Chicago.
<v Speaker 1>They used to come down from Chicago and hide bodies
<v Speaker 1>out there. Oh my mm hmm, yeah, speak area.
<v Speaker 2>They could hide easily at Devil's Lake. Yeah, it is
<v Speaker 2>a deep lake.
<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe there's more to it.
<v Speaker 2>There's a lake up here, Lake Delton, and the lake
<v Speaker 2>accidentally drained one year and all the houses along the
<v Speaker 2>lake went down the river and they can't even rebuild
<v Speaker 2>because the land isn't even there anymore.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd hate to hear that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Lake Delton, you can look that up too. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>the lake just drained. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you have any other experiences that you can
<v Speaker 1>think of? Anything else that you've heard from anyone else,
<v Speaker 1>anything you like to share before we wrap up.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anybody else who has actually seen a bidfoot.
<v Speaker 2>I don't personally know anybody.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I appreciate you for contacting me and sharing your experience.
<v Speaker 1>I know you felt like it wasn't very much, but
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that that was an excellent report and
<v Speaker 1>you definitely saw something that changed your world that day.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, you're a knower now, you know these things exist,
<v Speaker 1>They're out there, and you experience strange activity that most
<v Speaker 1>people can't say they have.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, but I don't know if that's a
<v Speaker 2>good thing or.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I consider it sometimes sometimes you can't kno
<v Speaker 2>what you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I mean you experienced something that most people
<v Speaker 1>will never see. So consider yourself lucky. You know that
<v Speaker 1>there's more out there than what we're being told. And
<v Speaker 1>definitely keep your head on a swivel in the future.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, thanks for letting me share my story.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, Karen, and you stay warm. If you see
<v Speaker 1>anything else in the future, feel free to reach out.
<v Speaker 1>And I appreciate everything you did today.
<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks Michael.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, thank you, you have an excellent day.
<v Speaker 2>You too, Bike.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for listening to this episode of Sasquatch Theory.
<v Speaker 1>Karen's encounters stretch across states, decades, and entire belief systems,
<v Speaker 1>reminding us that sometimes the strange things we experience aren't
<v Speaker 1>isolated events. There are pieces of a much bigger pattern.
<v Speaker 1>If you've had an encounter of your own, I'd love
<v Speaker 1>to hear it. Share your story with me, and you
<v Speaker 1>may be featured on a future episode. Until the next time,
<v Speaker 1>keep your eyes open, your light's on, and remember that
<v Speaker 1>the woods doesn't fall silent without a reason.