2024-09-25- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 3: Welcome everyone in Kentucky Sports Radio. Wednesday, September the twenty fifth. I'm Matt Jones here at the KS Bar and Grill on a rainy Wednesday after more Wednesday morning. It's kind of a nasty day outside, but that's okay. It's supposed to be like.

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Speaker 4: This all day. I think next couple days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like a hurricane or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: Down there on the golf Yeah? Coming up our way.

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Speaker 3: Well say, that's fine. That's why I'm leaving Clark's Trumping Shop. Folline eight five nine twenty two eighty seven. A vision auto glass text machine has seven seven two seven four five two five four In this distion sponsored by the TJ Smith Lovius. If you call TJ, he'll make them pay. It is Wingsday, Dollar Wings all day and night, including tonight during trivia you can come on in. We've got a guy here already from Floyd County, Kentucky. Guy here from Indianapolis. Uh, Indiana, which is an exciting Uh. Those two very different places here this morning, and trivia is tonight. And Ryan, let me tell you how excited I am. I wrote and I'm not just saying this, and tomorrow on the show I will let everybody know what it was. Okay, I wrote what I think is the best question I have ever written for a trivia question. When I came up with it, I almost called Mario out of excitement. I was so excited about it because I was like, this is the best question I've ever written. It's about UK sports. Okay, so that's a little hint for people coming. There's one UK sports question. But when I wrote it, I thought, objectively, this is the best question I've ever written, maybe the best question in the history of trivia. What I said?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: I did the best question. A lot of people are saying, uh, but it is.

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Speaker 4: Makes me want to call Corey Price to get him on my team. I don't know that he'll.

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Speaker 3: Help you on this. Yeah, that's the thing. I think it's good because it's not just numbers base. Okay, you actually have to like think so, Drew, I'm very excited about it.

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Speaker 5: Are you saying you're prepared for this trivia already a lot of times, you know, I've gotten down to the buzzer when you're putting.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen questions, I've got twelve of them done, So I feel pretty good. I feel pretty good about it. That's a good pace. I'll finish it. My class is from one to three that I teach today and then I got like four hours before the trivia tonight. I'll be able to finish it. But uh, and you know, it's the only for the people who worry. It's the only sports one, So don't worry about if you don't. You know, it's just one of many. But I'm so. I mean, I want to ask it right now, but I'm not going to do that. Well, no, because that would spoil the game.

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Speaker 4: If I did that, well, it would or reward the people who listened to the show that are coming tonight. Maybe they'll come. I will him come.

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Speaker 3: But like you don't get, you don't get everything in life. I gave him one question, right, like, I tell him the topic. That's more than that's true. Yeah, sixteen one of sixteen. So that's tonight, you know, come on out A five nine, two, eight oh twenty two eighty seven. The other thing yesterday, This is starting to happen a lot, Drew. The thing about having Mario, Mario adds a lot of joy.

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Speaker 4: To our life.

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Speaker 3: He just shows up and then he's got his camera. We're finally teaching him to film us, not from the ground, so that we look like we he just rolled out of bed.

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Speaker 5: He likes to capture as many chins as possible.

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Speaker 3: He's big on chins. He will, he will, he gets as many as he can. I said, let's let's bring the camera up a little bit, you know, bring it towards our eyes, maybe above us a little bit. But one of the things about having him is that we put these clips out and that means people from other fan bases start to hear what we say. Yes, I don't know what I think about that, because about every week some fan base decide that I'm inemy number one. And now that's happened with old men.

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Speaker 4: Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: Now you may remember yesterday I made a very simple statement. I don't even think it was a controversial statement. I just said, Old miss is not the hardest place to play. That is not a controversial state. Dear Old Miss fans. I'm gonna look in the camera. You have a camera on, Mario. Hi, Dear Old Miss fans, Kentucky's not the hardest place to play in the sect, which you even put Kentucky in the top eight in the sec of hardest places.

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Speaker 4: To Probably not, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I would argue Kentucky's environment is very similar to Old missus environment. But nobody comes to a Kentucky game and goes, now, that's a hard place to play. And here's a secret, Old Miss Fans. Nobody goes to your place and say that's a hard place to play. Now, Old Miss Fans said, well, we're twenty four and two in our last twenty six home games. Good for you. You know why you're good. You're a good football. Lane Kiffin is an amazing coach, brilliant, but that environment is not a hard place to play. You get a noon kickoff, you can't ask if you're in the sec where you could go to LSU at night, Bama, Georgia, Tennessee like now those places Auburn, those places can be brutal to play. You're telling me, I get old missing a noon game. Their team is awesome, but that's as good a spot as you're gonna get. And and they're all mad. My friend that lives in Oxford says she was literally getting breakfast today and there was a sixty five year old man on his phone listening to my comyers getting angry in Oxford. I'm sorry. I love Oxford. I'm coming. I'll be there. I was there two years ago. It's fun. But Drew, you've been multiple times. I don't know if they haven't left and gone to other stadiums. But it is not the hardest place to play.

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Speaker 5: Difficulty, you know it is. It's my number one on places to visit. But I guess the biggest part of your point is it's not even noon. It's eleven am. I don't care where we're talking about if you're get a team at eleven am, the fans, unless they're they just have that dog in them as a tailgater, they're not gonna be at their best energy and enthusiasm, enthusiasm for an eleven am game.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why that makes people mad. If Kentucky so oh Miss is really good. But if you were talking about Kentucky basketball and you said to me, okay, is rough harder than the other environments at noon against the basketball equivalent of what we are in football, I would say no, not really. Now if it's seven o'clock and Kansas is coming into town, well that's a different situation. So I'd have no idea. And it was just again all and then of course the old Miss media, you know, the old Miss media. I guess they're trying. You know, they don't don't know how much traffic they get. They get. They're all putting me up that Joe them said, show them he's wrong on Saturday at eleven am. Com get them. It's like, come on.

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Speaker 5: I picked up my phone pretty late last night just to catch up on the news before I pass out, and I had noticed, like most of my Twitter at that point was old Miss people.

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Speaker 3: Set their video com get them show him. So I hope I get there. And it's crazy. I was there two years ago. At times, was it loud? Sure, but go to it. I can't believe I'm taking up for Tennessee. But go to a Tennessee game. You can't hear yourself think. And it's not like that.

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Speaker 5: Two years ago. Kentucky fans actually had a great turnout. Yeah, did their first stripeout and in Kentucky fans, and we made a big impact.

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Speaker 3: The Kentucky fans.

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Speaker 4: Were all over. There are stadiums that are that are hard to play in South Carolina. Tennessee, LSU All miss is not one of those stadiums. You said it right. It's a tough game because they're good. They're good, not because they're stay makes it a tough place to play.

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Speaker 3: You are twenty four and two because you're good. Okay, First of all, four of those games every year are against the worst teams in the world. All right, Then you know you all were playing in the West. So you get Arkansas at home, you get you get mississip State home. Auburn's been bad, granted they've pulled upsets against the LSUS. I think probably they've beaten Alabama at some point during that time. They're good, but it's not because of fault. Hemming Way Saium and like I mean, Larry Vaught, Ernest Hemingway Stadium is fine, but it's not. It's not something crazy special. And I hope they do show up. I hope they show up and come out and it's loud, and you know what, after fifteen minutes, that won't matter because the game starts at eleven eight.

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Speaker 4: But like you said, if your Kentucky, you can't hand pick. If you had to play at Ole Miss, you couldn't handpick it any better. It's eleven o'clock their time. They haven't played an SEC game yet at all, first time they faced an SEC defense. This is almost perfect for Kentucky to go down there and be competitive.

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Speaker 3: Now, they're probably gonna beat us because they're good.

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Speaker 4: They're good.

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Speaker 3: They're really good. Lane Kiffin, and make sure this is in the video, Mario Lane Kiffin is brilliant like he is a for football. He is a brilliant football coach, and they will likely win because of that. But I guarantee you when I go in that stadium, I guarantee you I'm not gonna get chills and think I'm a Yankee stadium Game seven of the World Series. I'm gonna be like I'm at Vaught Hemingway Stadium. This is nice that that tailgate had a chandelier. Can you believe it? Look how pretty it was. But I don't think it's gonna be like.

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Speaker 5: Who nice place. Remember I've told the story we took mums to our tailgate. That's how That's how feels, how focus it is down there with.

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Speaker 3: The word mum comes out, that means it's not intimidating. You're anywhere that's intimidating with mums.

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Speaker 5: LSU They're they're carrying cases of beer at six am, not mums. I also remember they're out of beer very early. I don't know what they does for the atmosphere, but I didn't didn't feel that intimidated. Yeah, two years on place, very fun, place, very fun.

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Speaker 3: Two years ago when we when we played there, they got the false start on day Remember.

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Speaker 4: Barry on Brown and took away Dane's touchdown.

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Speaker 3: It was Barry on the dude, Yeah that he was like it was Verry.

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Speaker 5: We had shirts off in the crowd thinking it was over.

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Speaker 3: We thought it was over. But and so then people wrote me, goes that false start late killed you. That wasn't because of the noise. That was because Barryon wasn't set. Yeah, he didn't get set yet.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, we'll tell us this, since you guys are both there left two years ago. Was it loud? Did it get loud?

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Speaker 3: It gets loud in the sense that every stadium gets loud if there's a good moment in the game, but it is not again, let me let's go back to a South Carolina night game. You know how that stupid crow.

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Speaker 4: And it and it'll just be loud throughout sandstorm.

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Speaker 3: It's very similar to our stadium. Cromer Field can get really loud. But would you say it's loud start to finish during games. No, No, Tennessee is loud start to finish. It just is. It's just different. It's just different. It's like I love Rupperina. When Rupperina is at its best, at its peak moment, it's as good as anywhere in the country. The difference is at Kansas and at Duke and Michigan State when they were good. It's like that the whole game, and we don't really do that Drew. It's just the nature of our fan base.

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Speaker 5: No, we get we get fired up, but it's only in the big moment. It's as usually is a night game, which is I think the big thing with these Old Miss discussion is just how early it's going to be. And we've never seen Ole Miss when they're playing Bam at seven, but I've been twice now to when they're playing Kentucky at eleven am. And it's it's fun. But like I said, it's not intimidating or anything that's I'm overly worried about the atmosphs.

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Speaker 3: I am excited. I'm going because I enjoy it. I hate that I'm going and none of you all are going. Like nobody Max has a high school football game, you have? What are you doing? A college visit?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: No, okay, you just decided not to go, all right?

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Speaker 5: I picked Austin.

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Speaker 3: You're going on? Pushed me to Shannon has never left his house. I got louder than life, Yeah, you got louder than Like. By the way, I have three tickets to Larger than Life? How should I give them away?

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Speaker 4: Shannon? I have three week a week in passes the Wow, what that's those expensive, Yeah are they? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, I've got three for all or three for all four days to give away. I guess I should give them away today or tomorrow because.

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Speaker 2: It sets it starts tomorrow, So I would, I would, I would do it today if you can.

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Speaker 3: I guess I should do it. Yeah, and we'll figure out how I do that. But anyway, A five nine, two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. The big story today in college football is this kid at UNLV. Yeah, what's his name, Shuka Sluka Slucas Sluka So Matt. So if you look at the projections right now about the college football playoff, UNLV at this moment is projected to be the team that will go from the group of five. They're the highest ranked group of five because they've beaten Kansas and Houston, so two upsets earlier year. Their quarterback is is Matthew Sluca, and he this morning announced he was transferring now with the season starting three and zero. And he said in his transfer promises were made that were not kept. And so even though this team has produced two big upsets, is potentially projected for the playoffs, he's leaving. It has become now everyone sort of What do you think about it? What does this say about n Aisle? Someone would leave three games in the year, not because he's not playing, he starts quarterback, he starts at quarterback, he leaves. So I want to hear what you all think. Is this the start of something bigger? Or is Matthew Sluka just ruining his career. We'll deal with it and look, look hout high he's.

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Speaker 4: Got it now.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I'm gonna this from the ceiling now if you're not kidding the drone head, we'll take a break. Be right back. It's kisser, welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here at KS Bar and grill A five nine two eight twenty two eighty seven. One person writes, this is actually they actually put their name on here. This is Clay. Clay says Matt, I love you, but it's always good. Yes, sorry this you're making this worse every second. I know it's great for your engagement and that's why you're doing it. But the message boards are now focused on this and it'll definitely be louder. Well, first of all, good, it'll be fine. After five minutes. They're gonna forget about my post true. I mean, let's once the game starts, you think they're gonna be thinking about me. It'd be weird, that would be, but that would be really weird. Like they're not gonna do that. Okay, maybe it will be louder at the beginning. My point is still true if we're not going to say what we think about these teams before, because oh no, we'll motivate them. If Ole Miss, who four and oh and has a chance to play in the playoffs and go for the national championship, is motivated by a dude in Kentucky on the radio, then they got bigger problems. I mean, let's be real, they got bigger problems than that. The other thing is we're doing the same thing right now with those massy ratings on KSR. These high schools are using the ter the predictions to pump themselves up. Good good, I'm glad. It's not about engagement. It's about I could sit here before every game and go, oh, Miss got the best state in the country, one of one you played noon at Old Miss, you might as well be walking into the Roman gladiator bit. I'm just telling you what I think, and if it makes them more motivated, good. If somebody else said, Matt, would you be upset if people said this about Kentucky and a radio show at Old Miss, I wouldn't even.

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Speaker 4: Know it happened, true.

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Speaker 3: How would I even know it happened? How would I know?

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Speaker 4: And I think even if somebody said that, we would probably like, well, you know.

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Speaker 3: I go, they're probably right, right, They're probably right, And I might say let's go out and be whatever. But I could I couldn't with a straight face go Kroger Field Node on a Saturday. I cann't say that, right, didn't scared than scarybody. So this is UNLV kid. I'll start with you, Ryan, you're the most purity of college athletics person on this show. When you heard the kid, let's assume, for sake of argument, that the kid didn't get what he was what he was told. Now, UNLV has, through some of their media said he got what he's told. He just wants more.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't hear that part of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a media member that's out there. But I mean, I'm sure a coach or ad at UNLV told him to say that, right. So, but let's just say, for argument's sake, he didn't get what he was say, what do you think about him quitting the team three.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how he can look any teammate in the eye if he's going to abandon them three games of the season, even he's new teammates in his new locker room. Man, I mean, that's always gonna be the back of my mind. Oh yeah, this is the guy that quit on his team three games in. I can understand why he's upset. I can, but man, that can be handled after the season's over. When professional athletes, they have contract disputes, they handle it when the season's over.

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Speaker 3: But see, professional athletes have a contract. That's one of the things about these college kids is a lot of them don't have a contract. They get a promise, but that doesn't necessarily mean they get the money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like I said, I ca see why he's mad. I think it's awful that he's gonna leave three games into the season after he's got them ranked in the top twenty five, maybe a playoff team. And if I'm a coach looking for a quarterback next year, I'm thinking about that. Man, he quit on these guys last year. We think of quit omar team this year.

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Speaker 5: I go the other way, Oh you do okay, said you're gonna pay the man, pay the man, I wouldn't do it. But if he truly has payments, he's owed, he has a very small win. This kid's not going to the NFL. He has a very small window to make money in football. He's a senior. If he's gonna play a whole year not getting any money, I can understand why he's red shirt because that's what he's doing. He's preserving where we can go out next year.

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Speaker 3: So he's doing this. He's exactly right because he wants to be able to keep his red shirt. If he plays two more games, then he will not be able to play.

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Speaker 5: Now the rumors know this stuff, that would completely change my opinion. But just look at it as UNLV said we're gonna give you this, and they haven't followed through on any of it, then I kind of don't blame him. He's only got one year to make money playing football. Shouldn't volunteer to do it if they told him they'd pay him.

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Speaker 2: Channon, I think it's a bad look on both the university and the player. But I think quitting on your teammates mid season when you're three to zero is an even worse look. So if I were him, I don't think I would quit. Maybe I would bring it up publicly and let it be known. Hey, they're not delivering on their promise. But I think quitting is the worst.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm kind of with Shannon in the sense that I think it's a lose lose scenario. It's gonna make the school look bad for future recruits. Recruits are gonna be like, I don't know if I can go there because they say they're gonna do this and then they don't. But I actually don't think it helps the kid either, because I agree with Ryan in the sense of, if I'm gonna be the new coach, do I want the dude that quit three games in?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Do I want the dude that I'm not sure I can trust. I mean, the other thing is because he's the first one to do it. The whole debate about this, which if you remember, I've been saying this was going to happen. Yeah, I've spent saying Because let me give you a little secret, kids all over the country, it is a known fact that most kids don't get exactly what they're told. Most of them, not all, but most of them. And that's people have written about it. I knew this was gonna happen someday. I didn't think it was gonna be a high profile quarterback of a team that could make the playoff. But now he's gonna be the face of this. Sure know if he and his family are ready for that. He and his family probably thought this is something we're gonna do, but I don't know if they were ready for the fact that like tonight, on maybe on today's first, like this will be a debate on PTI this afternoon, right like he this will be the centerpiece of fine Bomb this afternoon, and all of a sudden, this kid is gonna be in the middle of everything. And when he tries to transfer to a school, that school's fan base is gonna be like, do we want this?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: And he has now made himself the face of this issue, and Ryan, I wonder if they thought that through, because I do think that's gonna be like a burden on him that he might not realize right now.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think that we'll follow him wherever he goes. So that's why I mean, you just gotta just tough it out and sit it out through the season, and then do it when the season's over. Man, you do it right now that that dark cloud's gonna follow you. Like you said, if I'm a coach, I don't know if I want that guy in my locker room after what he just did to that other locker room.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes when you're the first person part of a controversial issue, you almost suffer and then immediately everybody moves on. So I always use the example of everybody our age remembers that Bill Clinton, there was a big debate about I didn't inhale right and the question of could you be president if you want smoked wheat. Well, now, presidential candidates all admit, most of them that they did. I mean, I think Obama said I did cocaine, like all this stuff and it doesn't matter. But they had to have that debate about Clinton and he was like a big thing and then it became nothing. I think this kid Drew is going to end up the centerpiece of a debate that maybe he didn't realize he was going to end up with the centerpiece of.

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Speaker 5: But if I'm him and I wasn't getting paid, then oh well debate me. I mean, I have nothing to lose. I'm just assuming he's not getting any money.

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Speaker 3: I have one what if he's getting excuse me, what if he's getting one hundred thousand but he was promised three hundred thousand, it's a little different.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's still a good chunk of money. I doubt that's the case, but I'm just assuming he's not getting what UNLV said at that point, fine talk about me. No one is really I had you heard of him before today?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: Maybe it turns into something.

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Speaker 3: What if they now?

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I think these situations need to happen. We've talked about how it'll eventually come down. You almost need the schools to get called out and to get a little messy so people will stop promising money they don't have.

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Speaker 3: So you actually don't think it's that big a deal.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it sucks for the locker room. And I said I wouldn't do it. But if they truly told the guy, we're going to give you this and they didn't give it to him, shit, would you work for free?

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Speaker 3: Said? Would you do this? If you were the kid? I feel like you're the kind of person that would walk away.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I wouldn't walk away. Like I said, I would make it public. I would put it out there. Hey, just want to let everybody know I'm not getting paid what I was told I was gonna get paid. I would still continue to be on the team. And that might cause a ref by coming, you know, in public with it, but I think that I would still stay on the team.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, what would you do? Eight five, nine, two eighty seven. This is I think this is going to happen at more schools because I think guys get promised stuff in the heat of the moment. But it's not like a pro player that signs of contract. These kids just have to trust they'll get it paid. We'll be right back. TJ. Smith personal injury attorney.

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Speaker 5: Call TJ.

00:23:09
Speaker 3: He'll make them pay now.

00:23:10
Speaker 2: More of Kentucky Sports Radio present it by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 3: So you know, when we I asked yesterday like people had advice of ways to make the show better. One of the things I heard a bunch was, you know, you wish we could get the music back in the podcast. This would have been a good day for yes because that was a funny intro there from Shannon. Yeah, I mean I wish I could help with that, like that's I think there's some kind of like lawsuit and something and nothing we can do about it. Hopefully that'll change at some point. I bet it will, but it might not be recent. I appreciate how many of you just wrote and said you like it the way it is. I mean, I normally you would say, like, what is the what's something to change? The most common opinion was keep it the way it is, don't go don't go to three hours. There's no reason to add this that there's no reason to change this that you know. There were a couple of good suggestions down, but it seems like people in general are are are are pretty happy, so that's good.

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Speaker 5: I would like to add more segments like yesterday when Ryan said servant. Well, I laughed at that several times for out today, not just Ryan doing it. I'm not trying to pile on Ryan, but the reaction to it, Like I think the listeners really enjoyed that segment.

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Speaker 3: Well, and it was very natural. He thought it was servant.

00:24:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, I missed that just a little bit, just by a letter or two.

00:24:25
Speaker 5: But I think it made for a great It made for a great radio.

00:24:27
Speaker 3: You missed it by two letters, actually three because you said S E R, so you missed three, but it was out of six. It was fifty percent of the letters.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'll take that. If I'm a baseball player, he's beending five under. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3: You don't do that. I don't want to do it. A lot of words. Uh eight two twenty two eighty seven, text machine seven seven two seven four five two five four. One person writes, Matt, would you all keep working at iHeart if you weren't getting paid? No, But we have the good The thing for us is actually maybe because we have contracts and we could like enforce them. I think for this kid, this is the leverage. I mean a lot some of you are in unions. Unions will sometimes go on strike or walk out that you know, it's a little What makes it different is in sports. So in a normal business relationship, let's say you're taking Joe's plumbing supplies and let's say they make, like, you know, pipes for toilets. If the union goes out and strikes, it really only affects, for the most part, the people that work there, the management and the owner. In sports, there's this group of people called fans right, who aren't directly part of the employment relationship, but it really matters to them. And that's what makes I think sports unique, Ryan, in the sense of there's this group that are not really financially tied. I mean, they could donate money if they want to, but they're almost tied more spiritually. And I think that makes it a little different than your average business relationship.

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Speaker 4: And you hinted you think this is maybe the first of a lot of incidents like this happening where guys all of a sudden the middle of the season have a good year. Hey, I want more money, Give you more money, or I'm gonna sit.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna bring to the forefront the issue that I've thought about for moment one of NIO. How do you enforce agreements when there are no contracts. I'm literally teaching contracts today at Georgetown and all of the things that society has developed for four hundred, five hundred, six hundred seven hundred years in order to enforce agreements between people. We have developed this case law over centuries to ensure that people do agreements, and none of it applies in college sports. College sports now we expect people to transaction millions of dollars and not have written agreements in many cases. I just think you're asking for trouble in that scenario.

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Speaker 5: And that's what I was saying. I think, even though it's a debate and it's kind of ugly for the sport, I think we need a few of these to get to that point when we said when this started and it was crazy, it's like, well, eventually at a lot even now get cleaned up. Well, I think you need a couple of maybe s Lucas to blow it up a little bit. Teams will stop promising money they don't have, or maybe it'll force us into having contracts.

00:27:10
Speaker 3: Who's up first? Shit, del Dell? Go ahead, Dale? Hey, good morning guys.

00:27:15
Speaker 6: This is Dale with the Manhole formerly Trump War Room. Quick a couple of questions in a comment, Uh, Big Blue Madness, why is it not a rep arena?

00:27:24
Speaker 3: And it is? Yes, it's blue white games. And almost made a bad joke. The blue White game is at Memorial Uh, Big Blue Madness is at rop Okay, and then you have to go through ticket Master. It's always been like that. Oh dude, okay, you're really you got your facts today, Dale, Both of your comments have been incorrect.

00:27:50
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, I don't listen to the show regular right now. I'm in the middle of a bunch of stuff.

00:27:55
Speaker 3: All right, Well, good luck with this stuff. But yes, it goes through ticket Master. It's they're free, except are they charged? Do they charge the tickets? That thinks? But but that, But it's been like that at least for the last few years and maybe even going before that.

00:28:13
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, and I've got a poncho and rubber boots, so y'all got my number there you're going to be giving away those passes. Only live like twelve minutes from the venue for the Louder than Life.

00:28:24
Speaker 3: I think I'll be able to find somebody to do them. But we'll do a contest. But I appreciate it. And uh, we've got to figure out how I want to do a content. How do we make sure the people I want them to be real. I want them to sell it, so I want to be real. What is it? Metal heads? Yeah?

00:28:39
Speaker 5: Maybe we have them sing.

00:28:40
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I that we have you think about Shannon a question to prove that they're real metal heads or not when we get to it. Okay, is that fair? Yep? Alright, up next, let's go to Josh Josh. Go ahead, Josh, Josh.

00:28:59
Speaker 2: Josh, all right, Lance.

00:29:02
Speaker 3: Lance, go ahead, Lance, Hey, Matt.

00:29:05
Speaker 7: Kind of on Brock Vandergriffs and looking forward to Old Miss games. I think this year's team would have really benefited from having two of the kind of the cupcake games to start the season with you, because only having that half game against Southern Miss and then you hit South Carolina and it's such a big step up from Southern Miss. South Carolina and then Georgia is what they are.

00:29:27
Speaker 3: But if I told you what yeah with you on that, I'll explain to you why that doesn't happen. But go ahead and real.

00:29:35
Speaker 7: Quick on Brock Vandergriff. And I'm not trying to be a Sunshine pumper or anything. Do you rewatch the games after they're played typically or.

00:29:43
Speaker 3: Do you just very rarely?

00:29:46
Speaker 7: Okay? Well, and I found if I rewatched the games after they happened, in the emotion of the game, you're able to kind of focus more on the smaller details. And if you watch Brock Brock Lizard Brock Vandergriff, if you watch him in some of his passes, especially against look at Southern Miss in Ohio because Georgia's Georgia and they weren't ready for er.

00:30:09
Speaker 3: Okay, but what am I looking for?

00:30:12
Speaker 7: Some of the passes that he makes in games, he is anticipating windows to open and dropping passes into triple coverages. And I know it's gonna sound crazy because it's early, but we haven't had a quarterback with that type of placement on passes since maybe Andre Woodson.

00:30:28
Speaker 3: And then going back, I think of a couple of passes and I appreciate the call where I agree with you, where he put it into a window that I don't think a lot of guys could. I think he's got a great arm Ryan. I think he seems to have pretty good accuracy. The decision making, I think is the thing the coaches bring up. But I still feel like we're four games in the season, I still don't totally feel like I can judge him. I think we're gonna know a lot more on Saturday because we're gonna play. He's gonna play on the road an old Miss team that offensively is brilliant, defensively is OK and he should be able to put up some points down there.

00:31:03
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like what the guy said we should have had a couple maybe cupcake games early because Brock hadn't started a game since high school.

00:31:09
Speaker 3: But do you know why we're not well, I don't think that's where The days of us playing two or three games to start I think are over.

00:31:16
Speaker 4: Because of the SEC expanded schedule.

00:31:18
Speaker 3: Because we insist on playing Louisville at the end of the year. So I think if you'll think about the last few years we've it's normally been Florida, but we've played a conference game in week two or three for the last five years. No one's told me this, but I was thinking exactly what that caller said, Drew. It would have been nice to not play South Carolina game to Georgia game three. But here's the problem. Because we end the year with Louisville and because the teams, the SEC wants the teams to play their stinky game right before the end of the year. For US, it's Murray State. That means our SEC games are always going to be earlier. And if you look at the teams that play the early SEC games, what are they Florida who plays Florida State at the end of the year. Georgia who plays Georgia Tech at the end of the year, South Carolina, who plays Clemson at the end of the year, And I think the likely scenario is going forward, we will be playing South Carolina, Georgia or Florida in Game two or three every year because the way the SEC does it, Because we insist on ending with Louisville and the SEC insists we play one of our bad games at the end of the year, all the teams have to do. Yeah, we're gonna end up playing an early SEC game against one of those teams that also plays an end of the year rivalry game. I think, Drew, we're gonna end up doing that like forever, that's.

00:32:47
Speaker 5: Been happening a lot lately. That makes sense this year. I think it really hurts the line more than anything because we learned South Carolina's lines better than anyone really expected, one of the best in the conference. That freshman's the real deal. And you didn't even get a full aim to put in your second string in the week before against Southern Miss, so you had some guys subbing in, had a few injuries in the game against South Carolina, and then that you know, it's a trickle down. You can't win in the trenches and help impact everywhere else. And that's where a brock. We didn't get see as much at them as we wanted. But I think it hurt the line more than anything making that jump.

00:33:17
Speaker 3: I think it stinks. I actually I think this would have been a year it would have been nice to have Ohio in the second game of the year. But I think the way this schedule works, we're probably gonna see South Carolina, George or or Florida. Does any other sect play at the end? Who else plays a game at the end against a rival anybody? I don't think anybody else does. So I think we're gonna see one of those three teams in Week two or three probably every year going forward. So we just have to be And the thing is, if it's South Carolina or Florida, that's a huge game for us every year. Get the season and you're gonna have to get it in week two or three every year. A big blue keeps delivering with football season going on, But remember the Blue White Basketball Scrimmage is Friday, October eighteenth at the newly renovated Memorial Coliseum. A lot of tickets have been sold, but there are still tickets available twenty percent off if you're a Club Blue member. Go to Club blueinil dot com. This is a Club Blue nil fundraising event. I was in a meeting yesterday where I heard some of the stuff they're doing. It's gonna be a really awesome environment. We're actually gonna give away some tickets I think tomorrow for the event. It is Club BLUEINIL dot com for the first ever Blue White basketball Scrimmage at Memorial Coliseum for in Isle at Kentucky. Club Blue INIL dot com. We'll take a break and right back it's Ksucker Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. The Oxford Police Department.

00:34:45
Speaker 4: Just tweeted it, Yeah, what's that about it?

00:34:46
Speaker 3: Who realized the Oxford.

00:34:48
Speaker 4: Did we have something with them?

00:34:50
Speaker 3: Two years ago in Oxford one of my best friends lives in Oxford. Were staying at her house.

00:34:55
Speaker 4: She cooks ole.

00:34:57
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she cooks it's great food.

00:35:00
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:35:00
Speaker 3: That's where last time I took Max and Miles. They're not invited back, but the the rest of them out.

00:35:07
Speaker 4: You know, it seems like we had a little something with the Oxford Police Department a couple of years.

00:35:12
Speaker 3: I think, well, you started with Donkey one time I had some some personal interactions with them years ago.

00:35:20
Speaker 5: Maybe the listeners will help. Did they call in two years ago?

00:35:23
Speaker 3: They clearly did something I can't remember why.

00:35:26
Speaker 5: I kind of have a just a piece of a memory of them on the air.

00:35:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe so I'm nine, two eighth, twenty two eighty seven. Yeah, it's Clemson, Uh, Flora, excuse me, South Carolina, Florida, and Georgia. So we're gonna listen, We're gonna end up playing one of them in the first two or three weeks every year. And I almost wish it's Georgia because it doesn't matter as much, but the Florida and South Carolina ones matter a lot. Are big one person rightes Uh? Where just go? Oh, Matt. The reports are that he got three thousand dollars after being promised one hundred thousand dollars. Does that change your mind?

00:36:03
Speaker 4: I mean, it would definitely make me mad and upset, but I'm not gonna quit on my team, man, And that's just what's I have a hard time getting over that.

00:36:09
Speaker 5: What if you only have one year in your life to make one hundred thousand dollars Like he's not He's gonna go if you in a cubicle next.

00:36:16
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. We're a team here at KSR.

00:36:18
Speaker 4: Right.

00:36:19
Speaker 3: If I Heeart just tomorrow said you're working the rest of the year for free? I mean, Ryan, you it would it would hurt us if you just left. But would you be like, I'm not you promised me x amount of money. Would you work the rest of the year for free?

00:36:37
Speaker 4: That's that's tough.

00:36:38
Speaker 8: Care.

00:36:39
Speaker 4: I do have a kid, do raised?

00:36:41
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, well no, maybe he has. I don't know.

00:36:44
Speaker 4: But like the they have a season, they only have twelve games.

00:36:47
Speaker 3: Okay, we only have one. This is you know, this is still whatever. Let's just say iHeart said, look from now until the end of March a season mark Pope's first season. We've now paid you for month one, so we've given you your three thousand out of one hundred thousand dollars. We're gonna need you to go ahead and finish the year though, and let's just say that. I was like, hey man, that stinks, but I really love to have you's a big part of the team, big part of the team. We rely on you. What are you doing?

00:37:20
Speaker 4: I would probably try to find another job to do after the radio show. Say that's the only job you can.

00:37:24
Speaker 3: Do, it'd be tough.

00:37:26
Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta live.

00:37:28
Speaker 3: I got it. So why doesn't he get to do it?

00:37:30
Speaker 4: Well, he's a college quarterbacks.

00:37:33
Speaker 3: It's a job.

00:37:33
Speaker 4: He doesn't have to you know, he's got he's got his room and board off the covered carried.

00:37:38
Speaker 3: Let's say they agreed to pay, they agree to pay your food.

00:37:42
Speaker 4: My heart's gonna pay my food.

00:37:43
Speaker 3: My heart's gonna go ahead and pay your food.

00:37:44
Speaker 2: Pay your mortgage too.

00:37:45
Speaker 4: Then yeah, contract.

00:37:48
Speaker 3: I'm just saying to you, Ryan, I think here's what I think we do. I think we treat these college athletes like they're not like any other profession on earth. I'm not saying you, but let me give you an example of a tweet that I just got sent. All right, and this is from Eric. If a kid's getting a college scholarship, it's a huge blessing. Depending on the school, the value could be up to twenty five to fifty thousand. I'm tired of hearing about unpaid labor. Going to school for free is no small thing. I understand that, But then what if the university is gonna go make two million dollars on your back and they go, hey, kid, here's the best lunchable that you'll ever see. We're giving you your lunch, and then the rest of people all show up in suits. Your AD's making a million dollars. I can see why that would be frustrating to somebody. Ryan.

00:38:39
Speaker 4: I absolutely understand why he's frustrated. But why not go out the rest of the season, play great, and maybe get a better end ideal somewhere else next year.

00:38:47
Speaker 5: That's why he's redshirt.

00:38:48
Speaker 3: Well let's just say, why don't you finish this year through March and then one of these other stations will You'll do a good job and they'll offer you a better radio deal next year. Well, he said, why don't you do that? Ryan?

00:39:00
Speaker 4: Well, how am I gonna survive between now and March?

00:39:03
Speaker 3: Now you're making his point, but he.

00:39:07
Speaker 5: I don't know why everybody wants to just let the school off for promised one hundred thousand dollars and not paying that.

00:39:12
Speaker 3: Assuming they did. Now again, we don't know.

00:39:14
Speaker 4: I'm just going based on now what that report you said that it did come out that they did pay, and he wants more something.

00:39:19
Speaker 3: Is that what you said? That's just what one person, That's just what a reporter says, but like, I mean, we don't we don't know what's true. Yeah, I'm just saying if we assume what the kid is saying is true just for sake of argument, I don't think his point is ridiculous. And I think we ask these kids to do something we would never ask ourselves to do. Not one person listening to this show would stay in their job for months and not get paid and not get paid. And then we look at a kid and say, but you should, because you know why you entertain me. I mean, ultimately, that's what it is. The Only reason any of us care about this is because we're entertained by the sport. We're asking them to work for free for our entertainment. Who's next, Shit, Joe, Joe, go ahead, Joe. Yeah. I just wanted to say that it seems like these athletes have acclaim for promisory to stop. You can't make a promise and then have somebody relied to their detriment, uh and not expect to be suited. So why wouldn't these kids, Well, they have to be able to prove you're right. But they have to be able to prove it. And I would venture to say, since it is technically still illegal under the NCAA rules for the school to promise money, it has to be from quote unquote a collective. My guess is the collectives, most of them are smart enough to not have it in writing, so they're probably gonna have a hard time proving it. That makes sense. Yeah, so I appreciate the call. Yes, if there was proof of if you come here, I'll give you this. Like, contracts don't have to be written and signed in legallyese form, although they do have to be written after a certain amount of money. So actually they do. But it could be text messages, honestly, it can be on an APT honestly, but you do have to have proof. And there's probably a great likelihood that he doesn't have the proof because he's a kid talking to a college. Right.

00:41:09
Speaker 4: So, if you're a parent of a kid, do you insist that you want something in you want a contract?

00:41:15
Speaker 3: If I was a parent and I had a kid that was highly valued, I would say I need in writing, Yeah, disagreement, And some of these collectives, by the way, do that. I think there are kids here at Kentucky who probably signed a deal with a collect huh. But I would want that, because that's the only thing that's going to be if there's something called the statute of frauds, I don't I think the amount is five thousand dollars, but if it's more than a certain amount of money, it has to be written. Now. So if I was a parent, rhyme, I would want my kid to sign a piece of paper that promised me a certain amount of money.

00:41:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just tell you I want to give you three thousand dollars.

00:41:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, because then you wouldn't have proof. Who's action? Real quick? All right, let's go to Bill Bill thirty seconds.

00:41:59
Speaker 8: Go ahead, Okay, yeah, real quick. I heard Shannon and really addresses this morning. Something that you've also mentioned on your show, that coaches and coaches can.

00:42:09
Speaker 3: Leave, why can't players leave?

00:42:11
Speaker 8: But something that you never address is the fact that when coaches leave, the school has to be compensated, not.

00:42:18
Speaker 3: Necessarily, only if the contract says it. John cal Perry didn't have out. Always cal Perry didn't have one. Mark Stoops doesn't have one. Cal doesn't have one. Always Stoops doesn't have one.

00:42:30
Speaker 8: Just too, but almost always.

00:42:32
Speaker 3: We'll take a break very back, Ki