Apple TV’s Outcome: Testing the Limits of Keanu’s Likability | SVU
Not a dream, not a hoax — SVU is back. After an eight-year hiatus and a “miracle leap forward in technology,” Matt Singer returns with new co-host Jordan Hoffman. To christen the new era, they tackle Jonah Hill’s Apple TV original Outcome, starring Keanu Reeves as the neurotically obsessed movie star (and former heroin addict) Reef Hawk. The duo debates whether the film is a fascinating failure — or just a “transcendentally bad” piece of garbage. Plus, Jordan takes us on the grossest space-related tangent in podcast history, Matt provides some radical streaming honesty, including a recommendation for Netflix’s new Pizza Movie, and producer Sam Van Hallgren joins the fray for the inaugural edition of Letterboxding. (Ep. #168)
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00:00:21 Speaker 1: Film Spotting is presented by Regal Unlimited, the all you can watch movie subscription pass that pays for itself in just two visits. See any standard two D movie anytime with no blackoutdates or restrictions. Sign up now on the Regal app or at the link in our description and use code film spot twenty six to receive fifteen percent off. 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Not a dream, not a hoax. With more movies going straight to streaming, we need Film Spotting Streaming Video Unit now more than ever, And now SVU is back. I'm a singer and I'm Jordan Hoffman. On SVU, we cover big movies on the small screen. First up on the new look SVU is Jonah Hill's Outcome, starring Keanu Reeves as a watched up former child actor named Reef Hawk. Is it as dumb as the name Reef Hawk? Or is it worth signing up for an Apple TV Plus subscription to watch it? We'll also give you some more streaming rex Inspired by the film, We'll run down some new titles also on streaming. Jordan and producer Sam Ben Halgren will square off in the first ever edition of letterbox Ting All that plus find out how to get personalized streaming recommendations for you from us. It's all coming up on Film Spotting colon sv you. 00:02:01 Speaker 3: Film Spotting SPU went on indefinite hiatus in the summer of twenty eighteen, mostly honestly because I had two kids under the age of two and a full time job, and I was doing the podcast, which at that time we recorded every single time in each person's home. We couldn't do it this way. 00:02:22 Speaker 2: Where were Jordan and I are not even in the same state right now, and we're talking to each other. I mean legally, I refuse to be in the same state as you said. That's say. 00:02:31 Speaker 3: But it's an incredible leap forward in technology that I guess just didn't exist in twenty eighteen, or we were just too dumb to use it because I used to travel or Allison are a former co host, Alison Lumber used to travel something like an hour each way to record this podcast, and that was just the straw that eventually broke the camel's back. Also, I was convinced, totally convinced podcasts were on their way out. Streaming was never going to replace movie theaters. This is why I became a film critic and not a fortune teller. But anyway, my kids are now ten and eight, and I mean, let's be honest, they basically parent themselves at this point. Recently, I was putting one of them to bed, tucking her in, I said good night, I love you, and this child, this darling, sainted child, took a deep, contented sigh, looked me dead in the eyes and said back, I love mom. 00:03:35 Speaker 2: That was when I was like, you know what, maybe I do have time to do a podcast again. And it's a good thing too, because in the last eight years, the world of streaming, unlike my prediction, has absolutely exploded. 00:03:47 Speaker 3: It's all streaming. It's all streaming. The original incarnation of Film Spotting Streaming Video Unit, which I hosted with the great Alison Wilmore that it was mostly reviewing at the time, just random theatrical films that were being added to Netflix or to the handful of other streamers that existed at the time. And now there are countless streaming platforms. Did you know that there is a NASA streaming service. Jordan will tell you all about it. 00:04:16 Speaker 2: If you ask him, he'll tell you about it, even if you don't ask. He told me all about it, and I didn't ask him. We'll probably talk about it a little bit later. What with the artemis in all, well, I can't wait. Yeah, So now SBU could basically just cover movies made for streaming, So why not do that? Starting with one of April's new films on Apple TV Plus, Outcome Reef Hawk for the last four decades America's favorite movie star, starring in three of the biggest franchises in film history. You've had five years off. How are you gonna frame the five years thing? 00:04:52 Speaker 4: I won't say that I was hiding a heroin addiction from the public and that my best friends and my insane lawyer help me cover it up for years. 00:05:02 Speaker 2: That is a really smart mission, Trauma Miss Today, I will co written, directed, and co starring Jonah Hill. 00:05:09 Speaker 3: Outcome follows the world's most famous movie star, Reef Hawk, played by Keanu Reeves. Reef Hawk, I, like his namesake, is not flying high. He's a recovering heroin addict who is neurotically obsessed with his public image, and he's currently being blackmailed by a mystery man who claims to possess some sort of tape that could ruin his career and to figure out who is threatening him's reef Hawk's crisis lawyer advises him to visit people he's wronged over the course of his long, drug fueled, ego driven career and apologize in order to suss out whether they might hate him enough to try to destroy him. Oh did I mention? The crisis lawyer is played by Jonahill in a truly bizarre look that includes a shaved head, a bushy gray beard, and I think I think fake teeth. I wasn't sure. Did the teeth stand out to you, Jordan? 00:06:11 Speaker 2: You know, there is so much going on in this film that was shocking to me that I never made it to the teeth. 00:06:17 Speaker 3: I just wanted to mention it. Let the viewer decide that. 00:06:21 Speaker 2: Now. 00:06:21 Speaker 3: By the time this opportunity to bring back s fe arose the aforementioned former co host, my friend Alison Wilmore. She was already busy with a great new podcast called Critical Darlings, which you should absolutely check out if you're not already. So I needed a new co host, and I asked my wife, sort of my conciliary on all these matters professional and personal, who she thought I should pick, And she said the only choice was Jordan Hoffman, who if you know him already, he is a colleague of mine. Yes, I know she'll appreciate that. 00:06:55 Speaker 2: She's never going to listen, but if I tell her about it, she'd be like, that's nice. He's a colleague of mine. The degree to which my wife does not listen, read, recognize, acknowledge anything that I do to keep this roof over our head is hilarious. I could do a podcast called the embarrassing thing my wife did this week and run it for three years and she'd never know. 00:07:17 Speaker 3: Maybe we should make that a recurring segment on this show and see if they have. 00:07:21 Speaker 2: The unfortunate thing is that my wife doesn't ever do anything. She's always right. And you know, it's the classic Alice Crandon situation where you actually think she is listening right now because I don't know. No, no, it's unfortunately she is always right and and but but if she ever was wrong, and I wanted to do a thing on it anyway, back to how much your wife loves me? Yes, well, I was trying to say your credits when you interrupted me, but my credits tell me if I get any of this wrong. Okay, credits Where Allison was busy. That's my credit is that Allison couldn't do the podcast, and so I'm here. But I'm happy to be here, happy to be with the listeners, the long standing listeners of the SVU and the film Spotting Prime. And you know, I believe I'm here with Allison's blessing. You were gonna text her and ask her for benediction? Did you do that? I did? 00:08:08 Speaker 3: I did, and she sent me a very nice note and I can read it to you later if you would like. 00:08:13 Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, she's she's she. I'll dig it up while we're talking and we'll read it a little later in the show. Okay, God, but yes, you're being very modest. But you are a member of the New York Film Critic Circle, a former chair of the New York Film Critic Circle. Sure, a great critic and author, podcaster, all this is true, the world's foremost expert on obscure star trek novels. Yes, and tragically a huge Fish fan. We're not going to hold that against you here. I do love the band Fish and Fish is coming to well actually they're about to play it. 00:08:45 Speaker 3: No, I don't know, Jordan, I do. This was not an invitation. 00:08:48 Speaker 2: To discuss fish. All right, Well, well later this summer, when Fish is in local and I go see them, maybe we'll bring it up somehow in a streaming context. Wonderful. 00:08:56 Speaker 3: Now let's get to our review. Traditionally, on film Spotting, all reviews begin with a question from a host to the next So, Jordan, here is my question, to you go for it? After watching Outcome, after watching Keanu Reeves play Reef Hawk, I'm moros recovering heroin, addicted jerk of a movie star, after watching Jonahill yell at him while literally taking a dump on camera, Yeah, do you regret agreeing to host this podcast with me? 00:09:29 Speaker 2: Well, if it depends on what the outcome of the next five or six movies are. I will say a lot of the movies that we're going to highlight are not a lot of a lot of great movies debut on streaming, not at this time of the year, though, usually like what the Train Dreams is coming in October November, right, the the sort of quality motion pictures that that are then remembered with Oscar nominations, they're coming. And then there are some pepper throughout that that are always great. The finds and that we're going to be highlighting on this show as like, hey, it's very deep, but this is really good. But unfortunately a lot of them are still there is a divide in quality between a regular movie and a direct to streaming movie, and Boyle Boy is Jonah Hill's Outcome a prime example of a real piece of garbage. This movie is actually so bad that I'm glad it is the first one because we're gonna be able for weeks, perhaps a few months, we're gonna be able to say, well, it's not as bad as Outcome, because because this one is is transcendentally bad. It's bad in a level that like you have to go and sit in a lotus position and try to become one with badness. And that's what this film is. It's it's truly truly terrible, and I can't wait. I'm assuming that you agree with me that it's pretty pretty damn rotten. Right. 00:11:03 Speaker 3: You don't think Alison will be covering this one on the Critical Darlings podcast. 00:11:07 Speaker 2: You're saying it is only on opposite day maybe, but yeah, it's pretty it's pretty rank. 00:11:13 Speaker 3: Yes it is. I would say that it is. It is fundamentally like misconstructed on almost every level, Like everything about it is just is bizarre in a way that it's almost it's fascinating to watch. It's certainly not good, and it's not even necessarily like interesting compelling to watch, but just trying to like. And I've now seen this movie twice, which I'm never going to forgive this podcast why how twice because I watched it and then I wanted to watch it again and be really prepared here because I was, you know, I really wanted. 00:11:48 Speaker 2: To see because it's just that's the difference between you and me, right there. 00:11:55 Speaker 3: No, But like I said, this is I definitely did not enjoy this movie. And I did not think it was a good movie. But it's some of the choices that are made here by Jonah Hill are so strange. It's beyond just like, oh this is bad. 00:12:09 Speaker 2: It's like what was he thinking? What was he? Why? 00:12:12 Speaker 3: Like everything about it? And I really was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and see if if I really kind of hunker down with this thing a second time, will anything about this make any more sense to me? And it really didn't. 00:12:26 Speaker 2: If anything, it was like I disliked it more the second, it feels like it's in a blender, and and it's also eighty minutes because they barely had a movie there and they they got through by the skin of their teeth. I mean, the crimes of this movie are both in the form and the content, the small portions the form of it is that bothers me is it looks like it was shot with like the laziest Instagram filter over it, the saturated color. I guess they're going for something, and it just looked ugly. There were shots where I'm like, I cannot tell if that's blue screen or not. Are they really on a port or patio overlooking the water? You're more generous than I am. 00:13:06 Speaker 3: So Reef Hawk, which is a name that has said so many times in this movie, and it doesn't get any weirder or stranger the more you hear it. He lives in like a you know, a beautiful beach house overlooking the Pacific Ocean. And I had in my notes like if there is a beach house and they filmed at an actual beach house with like the actual ocean behind them, even one time, I don't believe it because it looks so artificial. What you're describing is the whole film is shot with this like strange warm toned filter, deep like like these really intense yellows and browns, and so many of the shots that are in this house, and especially the ones that are overlooking the ocean, they just yeah, they look like they were shot on a green screen. It looks like the room, the room looks better. Those shots of them on the roof of the room look more realistic. 00:14:01 Speaker 2: Than this film. Ok, I got it exactly. 00:14:05 Speaker 5: Now. 00:14:05 Speaker 2: I don't know if that was like by design, like if I mean if clearly it's a choice. But again, this is one of those things that I was watching and going, why what is the point of this? Because because the movie and I think you want you you want to probably talk about this. It's like it's attempting to say something, Yes, there is a celebrity about fame, about social media and about our world, I would think, And yet it seems to exist in this bizarre, gauzy, as you put it, Instagram filter that unless it's part of the commentary about our social media, So it doesn't land. It doesn't land, and and you're right, like it does. There are segments of the film where it just shifts into drama very quickly, and it's just laughable because it's just is not fit. But before we even get to that, I mean, I have to say this, and this is a little controversial, Caanu Reeves is we love. This is great, we love it's the first new episode. We need we need some hot takes. Let's go. I I know that Keanu Reeves is beloved by many, and that's that's cool. No, I feel that Keanu Reeves can is quite good at certain things. He's very good in Speed. I know that was the years ago, but like that sort of thing. They're the first John Wick. I think the later John Wicks get a little annoying, but you know he's good at it as being a steely action star, determined to do, you know, to just be to be personifying action. You know. In The Matrix, Sure, Matt the first Matrix is great. You know, he played off of his Bill and Ted. I mean the part in The Matrix was whoa, I Know kung Fu? I think that's about That's the only time really for me that he nailed comedy was whoa, I Know kung Fu? That line in The Matrix. I feel like Keanu Reeves is talented at so many things. He's certainly a great athlete. He can jump around and shoot guns better than anybody. He's not a gifted comic performer. He has no He's like a block of concrete when it comes to this, and he has to be funny in this. He is sort of the straight man in this story. He's like like a bewildered, be fuddled straight man in the center of a I have a hurricane of like getting canceled in modern Hollywood. He's trying to be a little bit like the Warren Baby persona of like a little bit like oh but handsome and still charismatic, right, and it just does not work. He does not have that kind of charisma. He's charismatic, don't get me wrong. I've been in the same room with Kenneries. He is a charming fella. But he can't do this. They're trying to put a round peg in a square hole. And I have to wonder if Knarees was the first choice for this for this role, was and and did several other performers say to mister Hill, I don't choose not to do it, because even Reef Hawk is supposed he's a two time Oscar winner. Yes, like he's supposed to be Leonardo DiCaprio. 00:17:10 Speaker 3: He's yeah, he's Brad Pitt, he is y. 00:17:12 Speaker 2: Yes, he's not Keanu. Like Keanu is great. I love Cano and certainly the Internet loves him, and he's cool. I mean, I'd love to hang out with Keanu. But he's not a two time Oscar winner. He's not he's not a good actor. He's good in Speed and John Wick. He's not a good actor actor. So he's not Leo, he's not for Outfit. He's not Clooney or or any of these others Daniel Day, Lewis and Keanu who are not. I mean, forgive me, I'm sure. I'm sure I'm angering some people who have Keanu posters on their wall getting ready to say bring back Alice and Wilmore, which I agree, but uh, you know it's ridiculous. I mean, come on, it's points. He sucks in this. He's awful. Now. The movie is Jonah Hill's Fall. He's the director and co writer and co producer. This is all his project, and it's Apple's fault for giving him the money in the first place. But Kean, who does not take the ball and run with it like Susan Luci's in it for five minutes. She's funny. You know there's some other he is funny. Who else shows up for five minutes? Martin Scorsese shows up. He's very funny. Scorsese probably the best performance in the movie he does. And the little kid that's Scorsese's with and the and the old clip of Joey Lawrence was funny. Drew Barrymore shows up and sucks also, and she's terrible in her came all right, let's get hold on before we get ahead of ourselves. I'll let me let me weigh in on this. Keanu on your key. I wouldn't say it's a hot take, It's more like a warm take. Let me let me say this. I think i'm i'm, i'm more overall, I'm i'm i'm a higher opinion of Keanu than you. 00:18:44 Speaker 3: I also think he can do comedy. You didn't mention the Bill and Ted movies, which I believe are comedies, and he's quite good in all of those movies. 00:18:52 Speaker 2: He's doing one joke, he's just being the dumb stoner kid. That's another thing he can do well. But I think where we might find some common ground essentially is that I think he is just like just completely miscast in this role, and not because he's playing a huge movie movie star. 00:19:08 Speaker 3: He is a big movie star. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt there. But this is what I sort of objected to and what I really landed on after seeing this fakacta thing twice is Keanu res Maybe not to everyone, maybe not to Jordan, but to me and to a lot of people. I think he kind of he radiates this very likable persona right. I agree with you. He doesn't have the biggest range. He is not a chameleonic presence, he does not disappear into roles, but he has this kind of innate likability. You like the guy, You like watching him. He is charismatic, and you kind of root for him. You root for him in Bill and Ted, and you even root for him in John Wick, a franchise where at this point John Wick has killed more people than Fanos. At this point, he's murdered, you know, a small nation's worth of people, but you keep rooting for him. 00:20:01 Speaker 2: And I think the big reason why is because Keanu just kind of he like exudes this kind of goodness and this like like Jackie Chan, he's tapped into something that is he can he can kill all the people he wants and he still likes him. I completely agree. Now that isn't the opposite of what Reef ha is in this movie. Reef Hawk, Reef Hawk, Reef Hawk to he is exactly. He is this guy who we learn is now he's a recovering addict and now he's sort of he kind of like is trying to make amends. But we learned that for most of his life he was a basically a monster, an egomaniacal monster. And even now that he is sort of trying to make amends, he is incredibly narcissistic. He's constantly googling himself, which is could be a funny bit in a movie like this. I actually don't hate that idea, Yeah, but I just don't think. I like, Keanu Reeves looks like the most unneurotic movie star in the world, and they have cast him kind of. 00:21:09 Speaker 3: And this is another thing I wanted to talk about, is like, to what extent, like, do I believe Keanu Reeves has ever googled himself in his life? 00:21:16 Speaker 2: Probably not? Absolutely no, absolutely not, but Jodah. That was my question. Do we think Jonah Hill has ever Googled himself? And I would bet my bank account that he has. And that's what's going on here is that the movie, to some extent, is Jonah Hill making a movie about being Jonah Hill. This is the elephant in the room here. This is sort of the the main aspect of this thing is that this movie is about Jonah Hill's uncomfortableness. Is that a word? No, but his discomfort thank you, is about Jonah Hill's discomfort with his own celebrity. Now I happen to, I happen to really like Jonah Hill, or I did before I watched Outcome, And he's somebody that has annoyed many people in our line of work. I mean, in addition to writing about films and appearing on podcasts, we also interview actors sometimes, and a lot of people who have interviewed Jonah Hill have had bad experiences doing so. I've interviewed him, uh several times and have only had good experiences. I don't really Yeah, No, it's weird because everybody has come away going by the way, that guy's a real dick. I have. Maybe it's because I mean, listen, we are both h full figured Jewish guys. Maybe he saw in me. And I believe his brother's name, his late his late brother was named Jordan. I think, isn't that the case. We'll have to we'll have to look this up. I think that was so maybe And I'm a little older than he is, so who knows, But I don't know. For whatever reason, he and I have always gotten along, gotten along like we're pals. No we're not pals, but I've meant it like three times, and it's always been like, hey, great interview with Joan Hill. What a blast anyway, And I was always rooting for him. And then like he he he got a little nuts. I mean, a lot of it is you know, he was overweight, then he lost the weight, then he gained the weight back, and this is you know, this is something that can make people very who are very self conscious, who were certainly in the public eye. Whoever, every time, you know, he he loses five pounds as this, you know, E and e W and all these trashy outlets are making pictures of that. And then and then he did do some some acting that people weren't expecting, like he was in the Goofy Comedies, and then he was a moneyball and he got the Oscar nomination, Holy Cow and The Wolf of Wall Street. He's phenomenal on that he absolutely deserved. He was robbed out of the Oscar that year. And then he did some other things and then he directed his I believe it was his first feature mid nineties. This was good, yes, not a masterpiece, but it was quality. Yes. So I'm like, hey, this guy's pretty great. And then some you know, he didn't get canceled. He didn't do anything too bad, but there were some leaked emails about like he kind of treated his girlfriend poorly. I don't know how much we want to get into his tabloid stuff. You can read these, you can, just like we suspect allegedly that Jonah Hill may have. You can google these things yourself if you yeah, yeah, Like he didn't he didn't assault anyone, but he was as a weirdo. I mean, but he's an actor, and he's a Hollywood actor who's been famous and rich for a long time. He's gonna go n So he did some what I think are obnoxious moves to his girlfriend, and then he made a documentary about his shrink and then he refused to do press about the documentary about his shrink And that's when I said to myself, Jonah Hill is so far up his own hass that he may never come back. And now he has made this movie outcome, and my instinct was correct that he is. He is still up there, and I'd like for him to come back because I do think he is tremendously talented. He's certainly very funny, and he's not funny in this, but he can be funny. And I'm still rooting for the guy, like I think, you know, maybe his next movie he'll It's amazing that Martin Scorsese of all people, isn't like if there was one guy that could have taken a look at the script and say, hey, buddy, you know, revise, revive. Guys, don't do this because there are First of all, there's just so many movies lampooning Hollywood and you know how you know how fake it is. It's like it's like another topic. Please, there's so many other topics in the world, especially because you know it kind of your your older brother, so to speak. Seth Rogen is doing it so well on the studio. Yeah, it's like, it's so embarrassing. You look at the studio. It's like, oh, studio is pretty damn good. 00:25:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a favorable comparison. 00:25:54 Speaker 2: And he will always be compared to seth Rogen because, of course seth Rogen wrote right, seth Rogen wrote super Bad. Course, and then I wrote, people listening will not be aware, but you will be aware of this. Yes. 00:26:08 Speaker 3: I wrote a book about two thousand eras Hollywood comedies that's coming out this fall called Money Funny Business. Make sure you pre order your copy now. And so I have been immersed in that world the last few years and watching all of Jonah Hill's early performances, including super Bad, including Knocked Up, including forty year Old Virgin, where he basically launched his career by having one very funny scene that he was basically handed on a day where it was raining essentially and the crew couldn't shoot what they were supposed to shoot. And he had been hired to play this tiny role in this scene in Katherine Keener's eBay store where he wants to buy these boots, and because they had nowhere to go and they thought Jonah Hill was funny, They're like, let Jonah Hill Annoy Katherine Keener and let's see what happens. And then the scene went well, and they threw it into a test screening and it killed in the test screening. 00:27:07 Speaker 5: So I guess I'll just give you some money and you can give me these shoes. 00:27:11 Speaker 2: And you know, I know it seems so strange. Yeah, so I'd just rather buy him from you, straight up. 00:27:17 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I wish it could be that easy. 00:27:19 Speaker 5: But I wished you, but you're making extremely difficult for me. I'm just trying to get these shoes back to my house so I can wear them. 00:27:26 Speaker 2: It basically launched his career. I never knew that. That's great boy. If you want to hear most stories like that pick up Funny Business available this October. And I do remember the first time I clocked Jonah Hill was knocked up, which, by the way, that movie like that. Kids can vote now, right, how old is knocked up? It's probably twenty years old. Two thousand yeah, two, oh for sure, it's two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, so almost twenty that the knocked up kid could potentially be knocking someone else up or be knocked up herself on her gender. So anyway, look, not my point. But let me let me say one more thing about you. Please, please say more please, because I just we clearly strongly disliked this movie. Yes, but I they're you know, like Rewal visiting all those old movies. He is a phenomenally funny act and as you said, he made a good movie before. And I'm just again just absolutely baffled what like what he was trying to do. You mentioned this, he's lost his mind, You mentioned a shrink and who does that? You mentioned the studio, and it's like, yes, but is this movie a satire of Hollywood? And you mentioned these issues that you know, again very googleable if you want to read about what he was accused of, you know, or just just the sort of stuff that was in the press about him. And so you wind up with this movie again Reef Hawk, not Jonah, but Reef Hawk has something hanging over him and he's sort of like mortally petrified of being canceled. That's essentially the the the hook of the movie, the maguffin of the movie canceled. But at the same time instead of like kind of and there are all these sort of things in the movie about you know, being canceled and the sort of ecosystem of cancel you know, cancelation on law there's a booper sticker that says, honk if you can separate the art from the artist. 00:29:26 Speaker 3: There is bizarre pictures of canceled celebrities. 00:29:31 Speaker 2: On the walls of Jonah Hill's character's office, like Kevin Kanye Kanye is one, and isn't Kevin Spacey also in one? 00:29:42 Speaker 3: And the Clinton's are there. 00:29:43 Speaker 2: It's, you know, there's all these very strange sort of uh, you know, canceled you know, uh celebrities, people, controversial people, and it's I guess is sort of trying to like reckon with whether that is fair as if and look, more power to him that Jonah Hill is somehow reckoning with what happened to him and perhaps feels he got a you know, an unfair shake, and I mean he did and he did first of all. Yeah, people whining about cancel culture is annoying. I mean, even though eighty four minute movie about it a cent. It's not always it's not always fair, but it's usually like, oh shut up, you know. And and the thing is this, if if unless I forgot that he did something truly bad, what he did was he was a real dick to his girlfriend about like she was a surfer and he wanted her to stop surfing because it made it gave him the jelly beans. He was jealous because because her surfing coach was a hot stud probably and he's and so he's like, I want you to stop surfing. She's like, surfing is my life, and he's like you must you know, he was just like an obnoxious he was a bad boyfriend. He wasn't a bad boy. He was just like just a jerk and also like embarrassingly insecure. And I'm like, you're first of all, you're rich, you're famous. Everybody likes you except for the press. You know, people who interview you don't like you, but like the average man in the street likes you. It's like, don't be a jerk to your girlfriend. Now, granted, he had bigger issues going on psychologically, which is why he saw this shrink and then even more and he's like, I got to make a documentary about my shrink, like anybody gives a shit. Ps. I never watched that documentary about his shrink, and I'm sure nobody has. Who whatever who? Instead of watching way about somebody else's shrink, give me a break. It's like listening to somebody else tell you about their dreams. Good God. So anyway, the point is this, the guy is funny, and I'm still rooting for him. I just think he this is it. This is what's gonna snap him back and get his act together, make a real movie with his story, not about your own navel. And and but you're the fact that his spiritual older brother Seth Rogan is killing it with a Hollywood which does talk about cancelation. There's a lot of funny canceled I mean, that's true. A lot of the studios like, oh are we gonna get canceled? And they don't know who to cast as the kool Aid Man? If they cast a black person as the kool Aid Man, will they get canceled. That's all very funny stuff. That episode alone runs laps around this movie. And I think that's that's a good comparison and a good point because what I was also going to say is, you know, obviously Jonahill feel something very strongly about the stuff in this movie. Yeah, because it happened to him, and so that he should be wise enough to know nobody else cares. 00:32:27 Speaker 7: Well, what my maybe, but I was gonna say, I believe a good movie could have sprung from you know, most good movies come from whatever Michigas is going on in the mind of the filmmaker that's making it. 00:32:42 Speaker 3: But in this case there's again it comes down to choices, and the choices here are so strange. Casting a very likable Keanu Reeves as this monstrous movie star with a huge ego who's unbelievably neurotic. You know, there's this and then just doing making it into a like this movie cannot decide whether it's a serious investigation of cancel culture or this goofy comedy. And the all of the comedy. 00:33:12 Speaker 2: Is bad in this movie. Well, and that includes. 00:33:15 Speaker 3: Jonah Hill's performance as the crisis. 00:33:18 Speaker 2: Lawyer and him on the toilet, so the scene. 00:33:20 Speaker 3: Where he's on right and it's and it is so broad and absurd, and again it's like what regardless of what is drawn from Jonah Hill's autobiography and his life here, I'm gonna guess in his travels in Hollywood he has encountered, you know, people who make a living being crisis lawyers and dealt with these sorts of issues. And in this movie, this crisis lawyer character, Now maybe Jonah Hill actually did interviews. He'd tell us, Oh, this is just like a person I met, But this guy is so obnoxious, un funny and loud. And it's like, let's say you were Jordan, say you, let's and it's not that hard to imagine. Let's imagine you were the world's biggest movie star. And let's just say for a minute that you are convinced that there is a tape out there of you that could you know, controlling your destroy your career. Yeah, you saying you hate Star Trek or something like that, destroy your career. And you go to see your crisis lawyer. 00:34:24 Speaker 2: And he makes you go into the toilet with him, and then he like goes on this whole thing like where he assembles a team of of other helpers, but he introduces them almost like it's a like a basketball yeah, wwe or a basketball introduction. What would you do? You would get up, you would walk out of. 00:34:45 Speaker 7: The room, you would fire this man, and you would never speak to him again. 00:34:49 Speaker 2: And so the you know, like the I'm all for comedies, yeah, but the base there has to be some sort of base level of of like reality reality or if not reality, plausibility, and we're just we're in a world where nothing makes sense, where Leana Reeves is playing a jerk, where Jonah Hill is the worst crisis lawyer and he's the guy he's having to do this. What is going on? Yeah? And but then the other thing. I kind of talk about Jonahill on the toilet for a second because it's just so because that's like early on he's you know it would be great. Is we've we've talked about this movie so long already. This movie is only eighty minutes. We might talk about outcome longer than outcome. We should we deserve it, deserves it. Let's deserves that. 00:35:33 Speaker 3: Okay, talk about toilet. 00:35:35 Speaker 2: It's like it's the first time you see him in the in in his stomach rumbles and it's like cut to He's still giving his monologues on the toile. It's a funny visual, but like where does it go with it? It just goes like it smells and then Ivy Woke comes in and she's she's like it stinks in here. But Keanu's just like just standing there like that. It doesn't go anywhere except for it's the fact that he's taking a dump and it's just so awful. But it made me think about something. You know, Artemis is in space. It made me think about this artis bring this home. I want to say, how you do it? Go ahead? Artemis was just in space. But now it's back. When I watched Outcome, Artemis was in space and you have these four people shitting next to each other, and one of them is a one and one of them is a Canadian. Also to make it even worse, so I was reading about their going to the bathroom and at least now there's two things. They have a little curtain for when they have to do number two and number one, and they also have like a powered toilet, you know, like the vacuum like kind of from two thousand and one or you know, when they do their business because of no gravity in space, as you know, it sucks out the material from your orifices. Which led me to this. This is a new ish development. They've had it on iss the Apollo astronauts who we love, right we're talking about we love them, the famous Apollo astronauts Tom Hanks, Bill Paxton, and Garyson. Well, Gary Son, he stayed below, Kevin Bacon went, well, okay, sorry, Gary, Gary Sinise could could do this all day long and I don't have to worry about it, you know. Yeah, Matt Singer and the listeners, I can guarantee I do not know before you Singer and the listeners of film Spotting SVU. Do you know how the Apollo Astronauts are brave American heroes? Do you know how they defecated in space back in the nineteen sixties and early seventies. I only learned this this week because of Artemis and because of outcome. It all comes from outcome. It went like this. First of all, no sheet, no separation. Michael Collins, Buzz Aldrin, and Neil Armstrong were just when it was time to go, They're like, well, fellas, I got a drop anchor and they would just take down their pants and do their business. They went in a bag. Now here's the thing, Like imagine a big zip lock bag, okay, and they would put it around area. They would spread their cheeks and do their thing floating in space. They could be upside down doing it. God knows what next to the other two guys. Yeah, maybe they said please turn your head. I don't know this is true, making this up. The special bags that NASA created because you know everything they created Velcrow. NASA created all these things because of space. It had like a pouch like a hand like you know in like the Andromeda Strain type movies when they put their hands into or like TCHX eleven thirty eight, when they have to put their hands into a thing and it's got like a little fingers, but they're still protected in like a hot room. Yes, so the giant ziploc bag that they're taking a dump into also had a hole with a hand pouch, So you'd be crouched over the thing and you'd put your hand into the bag, but the hand would be protected so you wouldn't touch anything, and you would have to yank. Forgive me listeners, you would have to yank the turd out of the anus because because there's no gravity, they would just otherwise linger like a tail. It would be there forever and they would have to days before getting you know, the ticker tape parade of Buzzwaltering and Neil Armstrong. Days earlier, they were floating around, floating in space with their hand up a thing, yanking their fecal matter out. I was stunned. I was reading this on my laptop shocked. Outcome was still going by the way, because I was like, I did I forgot you had checked you had checked out. I had checked out an outcome, and I was thinking about Artemis, and I was thinking about all because of Jonah Hill on the toilet. And I mean I have known about the Nastra astronaut since before I was born. You know the before, and you too, well, we never knew a time. We're young enough that we never knew a time when man had not walked on the moon. If I'd known that this is what they had to do, you would no, I would have. I would have said they should have stayed home. It's just not worth it. I mean, Artemis, they've got it worked out. The other thing I didn't like about Outcome, Wait, I want to say one thing. Please do the That incredibly long and disgusting story, I think again illustrates what we're trying to get at here, which is you could make a like. 00:40:32 Speaker 3: What you're describing is a great premise for a stupid Jonahill seth rogen movie, like astronauts in space and what do they do when they have to take a dump? And it's uncomfortable. That's funny. What's not funny is a crisis lawyer eating and going, oh, my stomach rumbles, I need the restroom. And then the scene continues in the restroom where you're again, if your crisis lawyer made you go into the bathroom with him, you would fire him immediately. 00:41:02 Speaker 2: I completely agree, all right, the place? Is there anything else? Is there anything else we need to touch on that hopefully does not involve interstellar defecation? No? No, Very quickly, he's on this vision quest where he has to go and visit all the people that's wronged him. His mother played by Susan Lucci, his ex man are played by Martin Scorsese, other people, and a lot of those scenes become very serious and it's like a little monologue. I forget who was the actress who? She was actually quite good, I mean her performance was good, but it's like, what am I watching here? Why is this so serious? And she's giving a monologue. I just met her thirty seconds ago. Now she's giving a monologue. It's a good monologue, and it's about how she was wronged by Keanu Reeves. But you have no emotional investment in any of this, and then the movie moves on and it moves on to the next monologue, and I just found that to be such a collision of genres. It was further evidence that mister Hill, his co writer, and this whole production was just a botched disaster and this movie should never been made. Well again, where we've now talked I don't know the exact timing, but something like forty plus minutes maybe about this film. And it took this long to even mention Cambern Diaz is in this movie. She is it's not very good, and so is Matt Boehmer, another actor who I don't think we've even mentioned him yet either. Yeah, because he's he's annoying in it. 00:42:29 Speaker 3: Also because and David Spade is also in this movie. Did we mention that again? But it is a series of scenes where, you know, one on one or one on two scenes where Keanu Reeves goes to speak to someone and they sit. I mean, it is the almost the textbook definition. 00:42:46 Speaker 2: Of tell, don't show, which is the not the way you're supposed to do it, and and it just it is Again that is yet another strange choice that I cannot under understand about this I guess intended to be this kind of probing consideration of celebrity and cancel culture. But it's also only eighty minutes long, and it is filled with jokes about you know, pooping, and it's just a very very strange object. And as you said many many minutes ago, if if, it is not the worst thing we review on on this podcast for the foresyear, but future we are in real trouble when there may be another eight year coming. The title is also a pun. Maybe, yes, I don't want to get we don't want to spoil why, but it yeah, yeah, it's a little bit of a pun. It took me the movie. It was like maybe even the next day when it hit me, I'm like, oh, that was a pun. I'm glad that thinking about the you know, the bathroom rituals of Astronauts did not take you away from appreciating that brilliant pun in the title. Outcome, which if if after this conversation, I'm sure someone's going to go I gotta see this, Yeah, you kind of have to. It's so bad. It's just, you know, if you have Apple Plus already, you might as well throw it on, just for a few minutes. If you were to do were out of ten, what would you give this a number grade out of ten out of ten? Uh? 00:44:21 Speaker 3: Maybe aloofa I don't know, I don't know, maybe a three. 00:44:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna go too, I was gonna go to there you go. So Outcome is currently streaming on Apple TV Plus. Are you ready? We're already starting? Hell? 00:44:36 Speaker 7: Looky kill one man, Kim? 00:44:45 Speaker 2: All right? Well, that was our That was. 00:44:48 Speaker 3: Our review of Outcome, among other discussion points. But let's let's say you don't have Apple TV Plus and you have no intention of subscribing. In this case, maybe that's a good thing. Or maybe you want to watch a movie about Hollywood that's not incredibly bad. Or maybe your name is actually reef Hawk and you can't bear the thought of watching another person named Reef Hawk suffer because the world is a cruel place to wealthy and some movie stars who treat everyone in their lives badly. Well, Jordan and I can help with that. We each have a related recommendation for you as an alternative or maybe a supplement to Outcome. 00:45:35 Speaker 2: Do you think do you think reef is short for reefer? What would be short for? Is that a name? Well is Reef a name. I mean what I mean, I mean it's probably a nicknames, probably named Ridolpho. I mean Ridolpho Hawk Hawk could be a last name that I'm gonna accept. But Reef is well, I don't know. 00:46:06 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean they call him. I mean the movie opens. 00:46:10 Speaker 2: You know what, we should talk more about outcome, but the movie opened. The movie opens with a clip of it's actually I mean, I recognize the Clippers Joey Lawrence. It's Joey Lawrence from Blossom as a five year old on the Tonight Show and they have Johnny Carson introduce him, and instead of saying Joey Lawrence, he says, please welcome Reef. You know, they have a bad dubbing, and but he calls him Reef. So if he had a nickname, he added his whole life. My point. Wait, I just had a brilliant idea that was in no way texted to me by our producer Sam. This is totally my idea. Reef is Jonah Hill's way of apologizing to his former girlfriend who was the surfer. I that's my insight, not not Sam. Sam. 00:46:58 Speaker 3: Sam crafted all right, we got to Sam. We gotta let's stop down we're going to re record the first sevement. 00:47:04 Speaker 2: I now love the movie. It is now a masterpiece. No, let's get to our recommendation to our recommen. Yeah you go first, want me to go first? Here? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. 00:47:13 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we talked quite a bit during our review of Outcome about a lot of things, but one of the things we talked about was Keanu Reeves, an actor I do like. And so for my themed recommendation, I I'm going to give you not only another Keanu Reeves movie, but another recent Keanu Reeves movie, and one that I think really underlines how bad of a choice he was for Outcome. And it's the movie Good Fortune, which came out just last year. It was written and directed by and co stars Zizon Sorry. He plays a gig worker who swaps lives with a wealthy tech bro played by another person we mentioned quite a few times in that segment, even though he's not involved in that movie, poor man to be affiliated with it without actually being affiliated with it seth Rogen and this whole body swap scenario is due to the actions of a well intentioned but slightly inept guardian Angel, who is played by the one and the only Reefhuk. I'm sorry Keanu Reeves, And we kind of talked about this in the review, but in Outcome, Jonah Hill casts Keanu as like a bad dude. He's a narcissist. He only cares about himself. He's only making amends to these people because he's trying to figure out who's holding this blackmail material, you know, And I just don't Again, I don't think that is what Keanu Reeves is good for, especially at this point in his life. Again, like we talked, I talked about it, like, you know, you think about him as as John Wick, you think about him as these you know, as Bill and Ted. 00:48:54 Speaker 2: You just think about him as this guy who you just like, you know, And I feel like if Guardian Angels exist, they probably would have a kind of genial zen vibe like Keanu Reeves has. So he is the perfect guy to play that sort of role. And he's wonderful in Good Fortune. He is the best part of the film. The rest of the film, I would say, is only okay. The story is I think conceptually sound, but again, kind of like Outcome, it crams a lot into a short movie. It's a little longer than outcome. But it's only like ninety five minutes, and you have the stories of disease, you have seth Rogen, you have Keanu, and you also have like a fourth main character played by Keki Palmer who's like another gig worker, and there's body swaps and all this stuff about you know, the divine and social commentary about how we relate to the world through these apps now like uber eats and you know apps like that, and you know, there's there's all this kind of commentary about wealth, and there's jokes about the Will Smith movie Hitch. It just feels like a season of television that has been kind of crammed into a feature. But if you want to see Keanu being good, you know right now or last year recent, yeah, yeah, he is. He is so good in that movie. He is, you know, and it's not just that well, he's kind of it's a better fit for him, you know. Part of the movie, without spoiling too much, involves his character becoming mortal and experiencing mortal pleasures for the first time. And just the one scene in that movie where Keanu reeves eats a cheeseburger for the first time is more fun and just more satisfying than the entirety of the movie that we spent ninety minutes talking about at the start of this show. 00:50:53 Speaker 4: Wow, Jeff, could you imagine Jean strawberries for thousands of years but never actually knowing the sweet taste and closed in those magical berries? 00:51:06 Speaker 6: I can't imagine. And in all fairness, that's a chocolate milkshake. 00:51:09 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I never saw it. It's you know, I don't know why it slipped. It was one of those ones that slipped through the cracks. I did want to see it. I like Aziz a lot. It just slipped through the cracks and I forgot about its existence until right Thank god for a show like Film Spotting SVU, because this is a recent movie that's now on streaming. Yeah, I really, I really should have checked out because it's it looked funny and you know, and like I said, I'm I like everybody involved, but I am a I don't know why I didn't say. I'm a huge disease fan. I'm team ofse Ease, you and a lot of people. 00:51:45 Speaker 3: This movie was a theatrical comedy. 00:51:47 Speaker 2: It did not do well. Movie theaters are not a great place for in that week that I didn't go. What was in my life? Was it a summertime thing? 00:51:55 Speaker 3: Or was it terrified to think about who you were thinking about? 00:51:58 Speaker 2: Pooping? That always stop? Please, I'm a man of character. I don't talk about those things. 00:52:04 Speaker 3: But in any event, it is. It is a movie where it's it's a good streaming movie because it's not perfect, but it has some nice elements to it. And I think best of all is Keanu, and compared to Outcome, it's basically it's a wonderful life. 00:52:20 Speaker 2: No, it did poorly the box office. It made less than it costs. It came out in mid October. That's a busy time and I just slipped through the cracks. I apologize. And Sandra Oh is in it too. 00:52:31 Speaker 3: Yes, another great cast. 00:52:32 Speaker 2: So Stephen McKinley Henderson is in this movie as another angel. Oh that's right, that's right, Sherry Cola. 00:52:39 Speaker 3: She's funny too. You're just gonna is great. Just keep saying what you see Jordan, Oh my god. 00:52:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. Penny Johnson's Giro Cassidy Yates from D Space nine is in this movie. Oh well, here we go. Can I give you my recommendation? 00:52:51 Speaker 3: She's gonna let me just tell people where they can watch it. 00:52:54 Speaker 2: First of all, on the television, I don't know one of those. 00:52:57 Speaker 3: They can watch it on Stars, oh Stars, or you can rent it on various digital platforms. 00:53:04 Speaker 2: All right, yeah, that's the one. They're all. Everything's on Amazon for three ninety nine or Apple for three ninety nine, or what's the other one? Fan Dango at home. There's one more, but like Boozooga or something like that. It's some stupid name. No, there's another one of those things that nobody that nobody uses, that's like a streaming that's a three ninety nine everybody uses. Only do we have a graphic designer who can make a bazooga shirt? Because I want a Bazooga shirt? Hold on, what's the one? Is it boogoo or something? I've never used? Voodoo? Voodoo? V you do you? That's what it is? Voodooo? Okay, you've heard of voodoo? Right? Sure? How you got from voodoo to bazooga with something silly? No one on planet Earth has ever used. If you want to pay the three ninety nine, it's Amazon or Apple. That's pepsi and coke. Those are the only two options. Watch voodoo is now going to want to sponsor the show, and I'm gonna have to delete all this. But let's uh, but you should watch it on stars. Watch it on Stars? Yes, all right? 00:54:11 Speaker 3: What is your what is your related recommendation. 00:54:14 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it quick. First of all, much like Grief Hawk made amends to those that he wronged, I'm I'd like to make amends a little bit to Jonah Hill. I was pretty harsh on him about his current slate of films. He's in the dog casse now. He's made a couple of stinkers, but he can be good. I liked his film Mid Nineties, which he directed and probably wrote or co wrote. But something that he was in that nobody remembers and is relatively recent is a pretty good movie. It's not a great movie, but it's a good streaming movie. I would not recommend going to the theater to watch it. It's a film that came out in twenty eighteen called Don't Worry He Won't Get Far on Foot. Did you see this film? 00:54:57 Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to remember if I did or not. 00:54:59 Speaker 2: I yeah, it was not a big success. It is an Amazon film that did have a theatrical run, which even today Amazon hasn't really coo. Well, no, they finally cracked the code now with a dead project, Hail Mary. That's probably their first true bona fide hit Amazon. 00:55:18 Speaker 3: Yet do we see Ryan Gosling poop in it one time into a bag? 00:55:22 Speaker 2: Not once? Anyway? Well you got to read the book for that, so the the the anyway Amazon put out. Don't worry, he won't get far on foot very quickly. It's written and directed by Gus Van Sant, who has made a lot of wonderful movies, and he's made a few clunkers as well. And it is based on a true story about a fellow by the name of John Callahan. And John Callahan was a satirical cartoonist and he was a quadriplegic and recovering alcoholic. And it's the John Callahan story. It's a very sad but the movie's not sad. It's very darkly comic movie about a guy who finds sobriety and happiness after a very very long struggle. When we first meet him, he is a deeply, deeply alcoholic person, very troubled person, and he gets into a car accident and he you know, he can't walk, he can't move. Then he's struggling and he's depressed and he's drinking more. And then over time he finds meeting in life by becoming a cartoonist and also through sobriety. And it's a pretty standard twelve steps movie. I mean, it's nothing too original. It's about a guy becoming sober, and there's there are many great films about this. The lead actors, the lead performance is played by Joaquin Phoenix and he's very very good in it. And his sponsor, his AA sponsor, is Jonah Hill, and he's almost unrecognizable in the film. It was the first movie he made when he really changed his look. I mean, I saw this movie at its world premiere at the London Film Festival, and I barely knew anything about it. I didn't even know Jonah Hill was in it. And I swear to you it took a couple of scenes for me to go, oh, my god, that's Jonah Hill. It was like the first time I saw him. He was really thin, he had long blonde hair, and he's playing a hippie, California rich gay AA sponsor who's very like philosophical and funny, and he basically gets Walking Phoenix on on the path to righteousness. And he's very, very, very good in this supporting role. 00:57:38 Speaker 5: I don't know, John Callahan, I'm serious. 00:57:41 Speaker 4: I'm serious. You know, sometimetimes I'm just gonna make jokes because I get nervous. 00:57:46 Speaker 5: But I need something, you know, every day, like clockwork at four pm, I get massively depressed. Oh I'm depressed from the moment I wake up. 00:58:00 Speaker 2: So got you there. 00:58:01 Speaker 5: Listen, we're having a group talk my place on Saturday. Why don't you drop by. 00:58:08 Speaker 2: The movie does not revolutionize, it doesn't reinvent the wheel. It's a pretty standard sobriety film. It's good. Walking Phoenix is always good, and it's a little I remember, it's a little long. It's one hundred and seventeen and it's a little long. But it's something that I do recommend. And Jonah Hill is terrific as the sponsor and totally like you know how we were saying an outcome, you know, like, what is that look he's doing? He looks crazy, Yes, he looks equally crazy and well not crazy, but he looks like you, like you don't expect him to look in this too, just like what is that hair? Is that a wig? What is he wearing? But it's a case of him using that look to a higher purpose of creating a real character, whereas an outcome, he's just like a maniac, zipping around telling jokes, taking you being on the toilet. So I recommend listeners. This was a forgotten film from twenty eighteen, so it's just old enough now for people to remember it. It's not a masterpiece, but it's something that you might watch and say, hey, this slipped through the cracks and it's pretty good. 00:59:12 Speaker 3: I think I'm pretty sure it did slip through the cracks for me, and I mean I also love Joaquin Phoenix, so I'm kind of surprised that I didn't catch up with it, so that this is one that I would like to watch. So tell me where can I watch it? 00:59:25 Speaker 2: Jordan, Well, it does. It was produced by Amazon, so I would imagine that it's on Amazon. Should I confirm that? Let me probably, don't worry. It is on Prime. I'm going to check. Also, it's on Prime, and it's also on Bazooga. No, it's on it's on uh if you have the subscription of Prime, which means also you get free delivery of of of towels to your house. But I think you could also if you want to pay to see it. It's it is on Fandango at home and and there you go. My gosh, Sam, Sam is already somehow made a Bazooga logo. Hold on, you got to open up the slade. I gotta great content for an audio podcast, but we'll have to put We're gonna blast this out on our socials and we will make sure that Bazooga takes over the world his Bazooka film vod. I mean, that's what thing. 01:00:35 Speaker 8: You know. 01:00:35 Speaker 2: Every internet company that you've never heard of, they all sound like Bazooka. I mean, I'll give you this, like there are so many stupid names for streaming sites and they all are spelled idiotically that it is not that Bazooga is not that far from reality. 01:00:53 Speaker 8: No. 01:00:54 Speaker 2: I was on the I was on the New York City subway just yesterday, and every ad is for an AI company doing god knows what. They're maximizing your synergy and minimizing your growth, of the potential, of the of the of the of your outcomes. And they are all these AI companies and they all could have just been called Bazooga dot Ai, every single one of them. So I'll give you this Bazooga is funnier than the equivalent version of that Joe that could have been an outcome if they had had a fake streaming service. I'm honored the name O Matt Singer. I'm told that there's another chapter in this show where we talk about another thing that we've streamed recently that does not necessarily have a connection to outcome, and it's called streaming. What is it called again? What do we call it? 01:01:43 Speaker 3: It's the first episode where we're still kind of figuring out what we want to keep from the classic SVU and how we can kind of update this formula for the world of streaming as it is now, which is really so much different than it was eight years ago or even older than that when we started doing. 01:02:05 Speaker 2: It, And at that time, we had segments that were kind of built around you know, we're going to give you this many recommendations that are new on streaming, and we're gonna tell you two things that are on our my lists. You know, you used to have a kind of a running Q on Netflix that was like very important to what you watched. 01:02:25 Speaker 3: Now it still exists on your Netflix account and on other streaming sites, but now it's all algorithms and they just shovel things into your eyeballs based on the last thing you watched. You know, you watched ten minutes of this documentary about bees, here's a documentary about bears or whatever. You know, Like that is literally the hellscape that we live in now. So we're trying to think of, like how we can make recommendations to you, the listener, but maybe make it more fun, more relevant, more interesting. So we've given you some recommendations that directly connect. 01:02:59 Speaker 2: To our review. And then I just thought it would be fun because clearly Jordan Hoffman is a man who will say anything about anything, as he has proven already. I just thought it would be fun to kind of be honest about what we are watching ourselves, things that we're watching not necessarily for work for the podcast, for a writing assignment. What are we what have we watched lately? 01:03:23 Speaker 3: And that's why I thought it'd be fun to kind of have some radical streaming honesty. 01:03:28 Speaker 2: On this show. I agree, I think it's great. 01:03:30 Speaker 3: Do you want to go first, tell us something you've seen lately that you would recommend. 01:03:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and actually, I'll I'm not embarrassed by this is actually something pretty cool that I watched last night. I am a huge fan of Canopy, which is embarrassing to you, Matt Singer, because you live in the greatest city on Earth, New York City, and the one problem with New York City is you don't actually have access to Canopy. It's true, it's it's the It's that's as they say in the movie Outcome, it's your cosmic tax is what they is aligned from Outcome. But for most Americans, and I do not live in New York City. I used to. I live in New York City for most of my life, but I now live in the glorious paradise that is Mammoth County, New Jersey, on very close to the border of Ocean County, New Jersey. The reason I bring it up is that I, as a resident of the Mammoth Ocean area, I have access to both county library systems, which means I have a bounty of Canopy. Canopy, for those listening who don't know, is a streaming service that is basically free with any public library card. It's you can't use it at infinite and you get x amount of tokens. It depends on your system. For Mammoth County, I get twelve tokens per month and you can stream anything. And different things are different some some things are only one token. Most things are two. If you want to rent I don't know, season six of Friends or something, then that's maybe four tokens. We shouldn't we should we should say Canopy if people don't know it is with a K, because again, these things, all these things have to have weird silly names like bazooga. 01:05:11 Speaker 3: It's not canopy with a C, it's Canopy with a K. 01:05:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ridiculous. I mean, so it's Cannopy with a K. Anyway, so Canopy does program a lot of cool stuff. It's great. It's kind of like it's a little bit PBS. I mean, they're through the library, so they want to be a little educational. But they have junkie movies on there too. But the one thing they do have a lot of And this is going to make me sound like a big snooty pants and trust me, I'm not. I just talked a lot about Neil Armstrong going to the bathroom. My wife is a visual artist, and she's went to art school, and that is you know, her passion in life and by osmosis, by being with her for so long, I too have an interest in art history and art and Canopy has a tremendous deep bench of great documentaries about artists. And some of these documentaries are not even what you think of. Some of them are just like visits to the museum. There's a British series called Exhibitions on the screen. You know, it's kind of like when they do the opera at the theater, almost like that. It's kind of a similar thing. So let's say, for example, the National Gallery in London has a great show of Edward Money. They'll just like tour it and you'll just get to sit and watch it. It's pretty cool. So we go through these pretty regularly. And the one that I watched last night was actually though it was pretty standard documentary. I'm sure you could find it elsewhere then Canopy, But that's how I discovered and is a film from twenty sixteen called Revolution Colon New Art for a New World, and it is about the early days of avant garde Soviet visual arts, which I mean, we've been talking a lot about Jonah Hill and pooping and whatnot. But this shows, this shows the with and breadth of what the recommended Renaissance man exactly. This is a really really interesting movie about Soviet art and Russian art and Russia in general. The movie was made in Russia in twenty sixteen. You could not make it right now because you know, Russia currently invading Ukraine and it's not a very good situation in there, and it's certainly in Ukraine or in Russia right now. But it's just about this very I'll summarize and then I'll shut up about it because I know this is very esoteric topic, but it's about there was a very brief window in time right after the Russian Revolution in nineteen seventeen when the government Lenin, you know, wanted to sponsor new art and they were really changing the rules of everything. You know, they overthrew the czar. They wanted to instill this ka kamimi idea called communism. For a little while, it looked like a good idea, and they empowered all these radical artists to do interesting things and you know support it, like you know, all those early famous posters you see of Lenin, you know, pointing and just that cool look, that early look, and it was a little bit of a utopia for the artists for four year, not even four years, three year. By nineteen twenty one they were all being you know, they were all and there there was a civil war, and then there was Stalin and the purges and half of these artists were shot. You know, Soviet Russia was not exactly any place you wanted to go. But this movie gets into it all, the politics of it all. I learned a lot about Lenin and Stalin, but it's really just the documentary about these artists and some of whom I've heard of. I've heard of Casimir Malovich, I've heard of Vasily Kandinsky, I've heard of Mark Schagal. Those are the three that I had heard of, and then six others that I'd never heard of, So it was pretty cool. My recommendation is Revolution colon New Art for a New World, directed by a woman by the name of Margie kin Month, British documentarian Margie Kinmouth, who I was reading her Wikipedia page. Apparently her father is maybe it her grandfather knew ian Ian Fleming and based m on Wow to bring it all the movies or yeah. No, Kathleen was the daughter of John Henry god For Navy intelligence officer on whom Ian Fleming is said to have based m and that was her father. 01:09:29 Speaker 6: So that's cool. 01:09:30 Speaker 2: Nothing to do with the film, no, but anyway, Revolution call the New Art for New World. I watched it last night. I learned a lot about Soviet art. I liked looking at the paintings I'd never seen before. I felt a little smart, And now I get to brag that I can come off like a smart guy here on SVO You can. You certainly can. And I love the range here, not just in what you've been talking about, but in where we're gonna go from that movie to my random recommendation, which I can assure you is not about art history. I after seeing a lot of people talking about this movie online, I decided to watch something called Pizza Movie. This is a. 01:10:12 Speaker 3: Drug e comedy newly added to Hulu. It stars Gatton Matteazo from Stranger Things and Sean Gambroni from The Goldbergs. Is directed by these sketch comedians that I honestly was not all that familiar with, Brian mclaney and Nick Cooker. The premise is so unbelievably simple even a drug adult college kid could follow it, which I'm sure is the point. Two college roommates take an experimental drug they discover in their ceiling, and it is only after they ingest this that they realize that one the drug is going to hit them in multiple stages, and in between each stage will be some momentary lucidity, just to really amp up the suspense. While they're under the effects of the drug, they're going to have all these weird hallucinations, all these strange things are going to happen to them, like they are going to think that they have swapped bodies, or they're going to be attacked with a chainsaw by their worst nightmare. And then the second element is that the only thing that can nullify these effects, which they they've already taken the drug. There's nothing they can do about that unless they eat pizza, which they have already ordered, but it is waiting in the lobby of their dorm, so they have to go downstairs while I'm to get it. So if the very notion of a movie where the entire plot. 01:11:39 Speaker 2: Is about people trying to go down a couple of flights of stairs while high, if that idea makes you smile. As Jordan is smiling and chuckling right now, you will probably enjoy a pizza movie. Where did these come from? Oh my god, preventing this it's an incredible high. No come on, no, no, come no, come on, no, no no, don't ask me why they decided to go with the name pizza movie other than you know, they thought maybe people will be googling for it, writing like movie where guy takes drugs and orders pizza, And they figured Pizza movie was like a Goods s Coo play for that. Maybe it is not a great title, but it is a fun movie. I enjoyed it, and it has some very amusing psychedelic sequences. I particularly liked this stretch where they discover that saying something and I don't think this is spoiling it because they kind of lay out what's going to happen before it happens. They discover that if they say any sort of profanity, it will cause their heads to explode and send them almost like a Groundhog Day style back to like a few minutes earlier, when when this kind of stage of the drug kicked in, and so it's almost like a gauntlet of trying to not say profanity for a few minutes, and it's like it's like it becomes a game game effect of loop. It is like an improv game. Almost did you see it's not streaming yet, so we'll talk about an X amount of ones. Do you see Exit eight yet? 01:13:12 Speaker 3: I have not seen Exit eight yet, but I would like. 01:13:14 Speaker 2: You when Exit eight comes to streaming, it will not be a streaming movie because it's in theaters right right now, thank you. And by the way, overperformed. It did quite well. It's a Neon release of a Japanese movie based in a video game, and it did quite well. And I it is it's it's what you just talked about with pizza movie, but you know scary, yes, and not about pizza yes. So I haven't seen that yet. But this this movie, I thought, very clever kind of play for a streaming movie. I could see it doing very well, you know, with that core audience. I could see it being a streaming favorite on college campuses among you know, the youngs who partake in illicit substances. 01:13:59 Speaker 3: We are not the youngs. 01:14:00 Speaker 2: We are the old s. Jordan. We should make that very clear, so much so that I when I eat pizza. I have to have tomes after That's how much we're weird. Yeah, young people, they don't. They don't subscribe to Bazooga like us where the only olds are in on Bazooga. And I don't know, I don't know. Maybe maybe college kids won't watch it. Do college kids watch movies anymore? I'm we're too old to know, honestly, talk they're on TikTok. They they once in a while watching movie. Well, if they chop it up on TikTok and put it on TikTok people, I think they will, they will enjoy it. So if Zindaya is in it, they watch it. She's not in this. 01:14:36 Speaker 3: So if you are so inclined, pizza movie a very kind of, very genial, very likable drug comedy. And again it is on Hulu. 01:14:46 Speaker 2: Hello Amanda. You don't know me, but I know you. 01:14:53 Speaker 4: I want to play a. 01:14:53 Speaker 3: Game, all right, As everyone's favorite movie character Jigsaw from the Saw franchise likes to say, I want to play a game, And this week I'm going to test Jordan's knowledge and the knowledge of producer Sam van Holger. And Sam, thank you for joining. This is my vision here. 01:15:15 Speaker 6: I am so thrilled to be here on the premiere episode. The date is really direct. 01:15:23 Speaker 3: As a longtime film spotting listener too, it's fun to be doing a podcast with Sam and now making him be on on microphone. I can't remember those those early episodes where it was all Sam and Adams, So this is great. This is like a flashback, like from Pizza Movie that I'm living inside. So I am going to test Jordan and Sam's knowledge of the star of our featured review this week by asking questions based on information from Keanu Reeves page on Letterboxed. This is letterboxing. I knew Keanu edition. We're going to test your knowledge. Letterboxed one of my favorite websites and apps. I use it to log everything I'm watching, keep track of what I've seen what I haven't seen. I probably saw a lot of people logging Pizza Movie on there. That was one of the places that I saw that. Jordan, I know it's Sam your I know you guys are both on letterbox It's a great site I'm using. I use it all the time, so I'm gonna ask you questions. I have six questions here that I gleaned from reading Keanu Reeves letterbox page. I'm gonna see how well you do Jordan. 01:16:32 Speaker 2: Are you ready? You look very pensive. I'm nervous because there's a I do have some Keanu Reeves gaps. You know I've never uh, I never, I never saw forty seven ronin. You know. 01:16:43 Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna find out how well you know. 01:16:46 Speaker 6: I've got no gaps. There are no gaps here, So. 01:16:49 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Here we go question number one, and I guess uh. I would say raise your hand, but people won't be able to see that. So maybe just buzz in somehow or say yes, yeah, give me a buzz and we'll see who answers first. Here we go. Question one. 01:17:05 Speaker 3: Keanu Reeves bio on Letterbox begins by listing four of his best known films. I'm gonna give you three of them. You tell me what the fourth film is? Ready, mm hmm, Bill and Ted's excellent adventure Speed Point Break and Blank Jordan the matrix. 01:17:26 Speaker 6: That is correct. Jordan is on the board. 01:17:28 Speaker 3: The matrix is the correct answer said to be there many people in leather pants in the matrix. 01:17:37 Speaker 6: Yes, and they all look. 01:17:39 Speaker 2: And then after that movie came out, everyone in every movie had leather pants and the sunglasses. The X Men were wearing leather pants. I like the phone. I like the old phone and slide phone. Yeah, he press a button. It's it still looks futuristic, even though now we have much better phones. I don't know why that is. I know kung Fu. Let me ask you something about the Matrix. In that moment, he's in the real world, right, He's out of the video He's out of the video game. Not video game, the matrix. It is the titular matrix. He's out of the Matrix and he's in the ship, the nibuev nasere Yes. Then how if he's in the real world, how do they inject him with the knowledge of kung Fu? Because they're in the real world. 01:18:22 Speaker 3: They stick it in his brain the whole. 01:18:25 Speaker 2: But you can't do that in the real world. You can do that in the fake world. Well, I don't, I don't want to. I don't mean to. 01:18:31 Speaker 3: It's been since Kea Reeves Style Jordan. But that film is not a documentary. 01:18:37 Speaker 4: Wow. 01:18:38 Speaker 9: And also it's not the real world ninety nine though it's it's some future time. It's like Matrix is ninety nine. Yes, I live in the World ninety nine. But it's like where we fought the machines. We've had the machine battle. That's right well into the future. 01:18:53 Speaker 2: We're absolutely right now. Jack has all kinds of technology in that future to stick things in your brain, to pull, you know, poops out of your wherever. Do they ever say officially when they're the real stuff is when Joey Chance is eating a steak and all that, they say that. 01:19:12 Speaker 3: I don't know the Loure well enough to just come up with that off the dome, but they've made so many games and matrixes, the Animatrix, it. 01:19:20 Speaker 2: Must can we have a be out there very quickly, show a hands. The matrix is good and the others are terrible? Right the other ones are largely unseen by me there, I mean, the first one is a masterpiece. The other ones are I would say, varying degrees of interesting, too bizarre and hard to Yeah. I think the most recent one, believe it or not, is the most watchable of the. 01:19:41 Speaker 3: City kind of interesting. 01:19:42 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't dislike that one. The second and third one I can't do. Even with the rave scene. I know some people love them, and Cornell West isn't it and whatnot, and people write essays boring. 01:19:53 Speaker 3: You know what, when I can ask you a question, You've have been on an actual game show. 01:19:57 Speaker 2: You were on what was it? What was it called the Jeopardy Jeopardy? I was Jeopardy Fan? What was it? The fan edition? The what was the party? What is jeo? Pop culture? Yeah? What is pop culture? Jeopardy? 01:20:10 Speaker 3: When you were on that show? Did you did you just like vamp for twenty minutes with Colin Jost? 01:20:15 Speaker 2: This is that quizzy? All right? All right, quiz me up, quiz me up, Scottie. I'm sorry you're trying to we get. 01:20:21 Speaker 6: To two hours here, Matt, come on, we want two hours. 01:20:25 Speaker 3: A question and then Jordan just just goes off on the mape. 01:20:28 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question about question of the apolloment. 01:20:32 Speaker 6: Let's talk, you know, around who owns bazooka? 01:20:36 Speaker 2: When we when we get to a Colin Jos movie, I'll tell you my Collin Jos story. I can't. We're gonna have to pick one. All right, here we go. 01:20:43 Speaker 3: Question number two, which, because it's been so long, I should remind people these are questions about Keanu Reeves, gleaned from his letterbox page. 01:20:52 Speaker 2: Here we go. 01:20:53 Speaker 3: Number two, Keanu's best reviewed film of the nineteen eighties among Letterboxed users is this period film Who, starring Glenn Close, John Malkovich, and Michelle Pfeiffer. 01:21:09 Speaker 6: It's a dangerous liaison. 01:21:11 Speaker 2: That is correct. 01:21:12 Speaker 3: Oh shit, board that is That is Keanu Reeves's best reviewed film of the eighties. 01:21:17 Speaker 6: Thinking maybe he was a Valmont, which was of course another the ocean of. 01:21:22 Speaker 3: You know what, I was going to say that I would have been wrong, and also excellent adventure that was I guess I. 01:21:29 Speaker 2: Was gonna and and and not only that, I believe it was the nineties. Any I was gonna say much ado about nothing. Oh that is the nineties. But I mean, yeah, I don't think any of those particular actors that well, but they could have been. Glenn Close could have been in that and uh, I guess theoretically, no good call. So we're tied at one one. Here we go. 01:21:49 Speaker 3: Number three, the longest film of Keanu Reeves's career, again, according to the Letterboxed is one of the more notable chapters of his career. 01:21:59 Speaker 6: What is it, eh, Sam, I'm gonna go with John Wick? Chapter three? 01:22:07 Speaker 3: That is incorrect, Jordan, do you want to take guests? 01:22:11 Speaker 2: I guess I'll steal and say john Wick chapter two. That is also incorrect. It was john Wick chapter four. All right, we remain tied at one piece, one point a piece, okay, question number four. Now, when you go on an actor's filmography on letterbox, you can arrange the titles alphabetically. When you do that, for Keanu Reeves, the first title listed is an obscure documentary about the career of Richard Linklater, the second movie listed is This Infamous Bomb, a big budget action movie where Keanu plays an outcast samurai. Oh oh, it's forty seven Ronin because the alphabetical alphabeticals Yes, Jordan, he didn't buzz In. But I will give it. I'll give it to you. It's just very funny because that was the random movie you mentioned, and yet you couldn't pull it from your brain when I actually asked a question about it. Well, you know, it's funny because I get into this. But we don't. We definitely don't. I actually was on the set of forty seven Ronan. Oh really, and did you play? I remember which one? Thirty eight? I was there on a press tour in a previous chapter of my life. I don't have the energy to get into the story right now. But actually that's where I met Keanu and he was very very charming. He actually kind of made a joke about me get this man away from me. Yeah, he but he was very very charm And then that movie was like, even from visiting the set, I'm like, this movie's gonna suck. And then they delayed it for a year. It's like, and I don't think it. And then the director I think he he wasn't in director's jail. I think he went to jail jail. Didn't he do something? Yeah? 01:24:04 Speaker 6: That Carl Rinch. 01:24:05 Speaker 3: Carl Rinch, Actually, Jordan is correct there. I was a whole uh not about that movie specifically, I don't believe, but I think did something. 01:24:14 Speaker 2: He did, Yes, he did something after the fact. Yes, I was reading about about that. It was involving oh yeah, he whole area of his Wikipedia page, Netflix series and legal disputes and then arrest and indictment. That's a sub section you never want to do Wipedia page. But yes, Carl Rinch, the director of forty seven roun And you're absolutely right, good, good, good pull there Jordan, no bonus points for that, but I'm still impressed. All right, yeah, yeah, So we have a score of two to one. Jordan. 01:24:42 Speaker 3: We have two questions left. 01:24:44 Speaker 6: All right, So you're saying there's a chance, all right. 01:24:46 Speaker 2: Yes, this one, this one might be. This one might be a trickier one where they're getting harder at least. What's the what's the what's the same? What's the rick linklater? Doc? I didn't even know there was. You're gonna make me now look this up on the fly, but we can. We'll find this out. We'll come back with this information before the end of the show. Ok here we go, Question number five. 01:25:11 Speaker 3: According to Letterboxed, Keanu Reeves has appeared in one hundred and forty films. As an actor. He has only appeared or only made I should say one as a director. Can you name the one film that Keanu Reeves directed? 01:25:31 Speaker 6: Okay, I'm not going to get it exactly right, but it has tai Chi in the title. Is that correct? 01:25:35 Speaker 3: That is correct? 01:25:36 Speaker 6: Can you can you a man who tai Chi? 01:25:40 Speaker 2: The man it was? You have three of the four words, the man of. 01:25:44 Speaker 6: Tai Chi, the man of tai Chi, the man, the man. 01:25:47 Speaker 2: Of the man is no the but is it's cleaner without it? Man of tai Chi, I am going to give you got it very good Man of tai Chi. Famously the movie where the famously the movie where he said you owe me a life about five or six times. Very strangely, I thought he directed that documentary about digital cinema. 01:26:09 Speaker 3: Jona Hill's Therapist. Look, maybe he directed something else. According to his he probably page when you filter by, you can filter by their different credits, and they're different. You know what they did on the film. And that was the only one listed for twenty one years. 01:26:27 Speaker 6: Colon Richard linklater, that was it. 01:26:30 Speaker 3: That's the documentary twenty one years, Colin Richard Link. 01:26:32 Speaker 2: Later, that I'd like to see that was the one. 01:26:34 Speaker 3: All right, It all comes down to this. This is very exciting and dramatic, ensuring that there will be future editions of this this game. 01:26:45 Speaker 2: Boxing, letterboxting, Yes, letter Boxing's all right. 01:26:49 Speaker 3: Here we go, Question six for all the Marbles. When you search Keanu Reeves's filmography by genre by genre, only one film comes up under the genre Western, This nineteen to ninety three title directed by Gus van zandt. 01:27:07 Speaker 2: What is it? Oh? 01:27:10 Speaker 1: Ninety three, ninety three, will we have a tie? 01:27:17 Speaker 2: Wait? 01:27:19 Speaker 3: Nothing better on the podcast? Then silence. 01:27:22 Speaker 2: Gust Finsen didn't make a I mean like we talked. Don't worry. He can't get away on foot. Nope. He made a lot of movies and ninety three was like the Zone that wasn't that long? After which you would you like me to start listing other actors in this motion picture? 01:27:34 Speaker 6: Yes? Please, because this is after to Die. 01:27:36 Speaker 2: I went, I went for, I went after after Private Idaho before I know it's even cowgirls get the Blues. 01:27:44 Speaker 6: Oh dang it. 01:27:45 Speaker 3: Jordan is correct and he has won the inaugural edition. 01:27:50 Speaker 2: Wow. I wouldn't call that a Western, though I don't know that I would either. However, that is how it is listed on Wow. Tom Robbins novel, Yeah, it's based on It's a great book in a pretty loust movie. 01:28:03 Speaker 3: The picture when you you know, if you are a patron of letterbox, and when you click on the movie you get like a picture at the top of the page. It shows Uma Thurman and Lorraine blood Brocco with a horse. So I guess by that definition it's a Western. 01:28:18 Speaker 2: It's not a Western. That's a that's a boom boom. But Pat Marita is in it too. He is indeed, he is Indeed. I remember being I was, you know, young man when this came out, but I did see it in the theater, and I remember being, you know, just being you know, film guy enough to like, oh my own private Idaho drugstore, Cowboy, Gus Van Santz, the greatest Tom Robbins. I had not read even Cowgirls, but I had read other Tom Robbins books, and I'm like, this is going to be the meeting of the mind. It's gonna be great. I'm like a half hour in going this sucks. Oh. And I had the soundtrack too. It was Katie Lang. Yes, Katie Lang did the music and it was really good. The album was terrific. I the album got more play in my life in this movie. I haven't revisited it, and but it won me. It defeated Sam and for that I will forever love this. 01:29:10 Speaker 3: We might have to keep track of the score of these sorts of games, So I love the. 01:29:14 Speaker 8: One built in like a cushion, Matt where we had six six questions, but there was still like it came down to a tiebreaker because you know, we just whiff on one entire That was excellent. 01:29:25 Speaker 2: Good job, that was very exciting. I can't wait to do that again with future future episodes with other stuff stars who have appeared in Jonah only in Jonahill movies. I think the real well, that was fun. That game. I was nervous, but now I'm the champions, so clearly I loved it. I do wanna tease for next week. You know, we we anticipate coming back again next week. There's a lot of cool stuff coming out. 01:29:55 Speaker 3: We're not canceled like Reef Hawk in the next seven days. 01:29:59 Speaker 2: There's some cool stuff coming out to streaming next week. I just do a very quick quick rundown on Netflix. There's a film called Noah Kahan Out of Body, which the singer songwriter Noah Kahan faces the pressure of making his next album and returns to his Vermont roots and family to get back in tune with himself. Is that is that a documentary? 01:30:19 Speaker 6: Who is no documentary? I think it's no I've never heard of this. 01:30:24 Speaker 3: From the way you mispronounced his name, I've heard we're very familiar with him. 01:30:28 Speaker 2: The only con I know is Cohn Noonian sing he was this That's the con for me. I don't think he's covered in this motion picture. Now we're also next week on Netflix is kind of a fun one. It's called Roommates and it stars Adam Sandler's daughter, and she's been in a bunch of movies. Uh so she's now doing the Nepo Baby, but we love her. It's called Roommates. When a college freshman played by Sadie Sandler asks a cool, confident girl, Chloe East from the heretic and Fableman's to be her roommate. Blossoming friendship quickly spirals into a war of passive aggression. I would like to watch Roommates, and I think that may be a little bit of a of a success, so we may catch up with it after because the one we're definitely gonna do next week, we got it. It's like when we start to when moral Imperative. When I first learned that SVU was coming back, and I begged Allison to pretend that she was too busy to become the guest again and the co host and let me do it. I was like, I need the excuse to watch more Mark Wahlberg film, Sure and the Excuses here. Week two coming to Prime, which is the only streaming service that gets you a free delivery on paper towels. Peter Fairey Oscar Winner. He didn't win the Oscar but director of the Oscar winning film. Maybe he was a producer on it, so he did win. Peter Fairreley, who directed Green Book. His new film is called Balls Up. Two American marketing executives Mark Wahlberg and Paul Walter Hauser are fired for blowing a client sponsorship opportunity and decide to use their free tickets to a major soccer match. Their drunken debauchery leads them to be hunted by every person across the country. I don't I don't even know what that means. But all I know is that I can only imagine if outcome led to a lengthy discussion of the bathroom habits of I can only imagine what's going to happen when we review a movie called Balls Up. We need some feminine energy on the show, but it's not coming next week. The following week, we're going to do roommates with Sadie. Sadie Singer, Do you have an ant named Sadie? 01:32:56 Speaker 4: I should? 01:32:56 Speaker 2: You're right that I should? It would make Sadie, I don't Sadie Sandler. Sadie Sandler. We're gonna do that soon. But next week I'm all in. I'm all up for balls Up. So I think that's what we're going to be watching. So thank you to the listeners in advance. Anything else you want to add, Matt Singer, Yes, and I want to first of all, thank you Sam, and thank you Jordan. It's great to be back. This was a lot of fun. Maybe too much fun, probably too much. I'm gonna say listeners might might find it to be too much fun, but it was. This was wonderful to be back, and I've had a great time. 01:33:34 Speaker 5: Uh. 01:33:34 Speaker 3: But we are still kind of figuring out the full ins and outs of the format here, and we want to hear from you, the listeners. We would love to hear your feedback about the show, what you liked, what else you would want to hear? 01:33:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, you all say bring back Allison. Well other than that, which which I would you know? 01:33:56 Speaker 8: What? 01:33:57 Speaker 2: Other? What other things can we can we discuss? 01:34:00 Speaker 3: I had an idea. I'm gonna throw it out there. We'll see if anyone takes us up on it. 01:34:04 Speaker 2: Good What new game ideas? We would love new game ideas. 01:34:09 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you can send us game ideas, movies you want us to talk about, uh, streaming services you want us to talk about, if they're not the most obvious ones, if there's ones that are out there that. 01:34:20 Speaker 2: You particularly like. 01:34:21 Speaker 3: I also thought people could send us maybe the places they subscribe to and a genre movie and we could give them back personalized recommendations. We can add that to our recommendation segment. So if you have anything you want to send and you or you would like maybe to see if you could get a personalized recommendation from Yes, the email address is Matt at filmspottingsvu dot com. That's Matt at film Spotting SFU dot com. Ironically, those go straight to Jordan. He's the only one who's gonna read that. No, we'll get them, and we would love to hear your feedback. What you want to hear, what you like to hear, tell us because we're back. We're back maybe, and we're here for you and we want to make it the best podcast possible. Coming up in the Film Spotting Feed this week on Friday, on the Film Spotting Mothership, Adam and Josh will honor the late great Robert Duval with their top five Duval scenes. Oh, plus the fun Maybe we'll do a letter boxting of Robert Duvald on the line. Plus what would be your favorite Matt favorite Roberts Deval scene? What was his best scene in the Will Ferrell movie kicking and screaming? 01:35:29 Speaker 2: Now, I don't know. 01:35:30 Speaker 3: I mean it could be something from the Godfather and Tender Mercies. It's a hard one. That's why they people have to listen to find out. There's so many good ones. 01:35:37 Speaker 2: To choose from. I'm gonna listen. That sounds like a good show. 01:35:40 Speaker 3: Plus the final four round of nineteen forties Madness Vote now at Filmspotting Madness dot Com Again. 01:35:48 Speaker 2: Next week we'll be back with Peter Fairley's Balls Up with Mark Wahlberg and Paul Walter Houser. And in the meantime, you can find me on Instagram and letterboxed at Superpulse. I'm also on Blue Sky at Matt Singer Jordan. Where can people find you? Oh God, I'm trying to get off social Okay, don't look for Jordan. Just come back. I'm one. I do a little Blue Sky. You can put my name in there I'm on X but I don't read it, and I'm on Instagram. Is just pictures of like me going to like, you know, Chinese restaurants and stuff. You know. Not gonna get anything good out of that. No, I disagree it's compelling. I do a little Blue Sky. You can find me on Blue Sky, but I'm trying to get off that too. Honestly, Blue Sky is just as bad as X. 01:36:28 Speaker 3: Well on that wonderful upbeat note. 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