SPECIAL COVERAGE: Super Tuesday Reaction

As part of our special coverage on this Super Tuesday, 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:04.760 we turned out of Jim Gilmore, the former chair of 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:08.880 the Republican National Committee, former governor of Virginia. It's good 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.120 to see you, sir, Welcome back to Bloomberg. You were 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:15.200 recently calling for unity in the party following a string 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.960 of early victories for Donald Trump. That has been affirmed 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:22.360 repeatedly with more than ten victories tonight in favor of 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.360 the former president. Is it time for Nicki Haley to 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:25.880 drop out? 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.920 Well, yes it is. It's a little late for her 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.839 to be dropping out. To say the truth, I gathered 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.280 together about twelve leading conservatives in the country and said 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.040 Nikki a letter in the early part of February, right 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:44.400 after the sith Carolina primary, and said, look, you didn't 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:48.279 win your home state, You've lost all the primaries up 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.800 to this point, all the caucuses. Get out and support 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.959 the president, and lets you unify the party and get 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.920 about the serious business of defeating President Biden. That has 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.600 to be our goal now of the entire Repobel Party. 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.560 And by staying in and just attacking Trump the way 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.880 she has personally, I think that she's probably missed her 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.360 vest opportunity to get out. But still she still should 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.480 and we should unify the party. It's a serious business. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.080 Well, sir, you speak of unifying the Republican Party. Certainly 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.720 you use that language and that letter addressed to Miss Haley. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.600 And yet when you look at the vote tallies coming in, granted, 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.800 the votes have not been complete across any of these 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.560 Super Tuesday states, but she currently has forty seven percent 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.240 in Vermont. In Virginia, where you served as governor, thirty 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:35.080 four point six percent. Yes, the state was called for Trump, 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.640 but she is pulling in a relatively significant share of voters. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.440 Cand a Republican party that divided actually be unified in 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.240 time for a general election in November. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.280 Oh, I think the party can unify in time for 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:51.200 a general election. They look, these are landslide numbers. Let's 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.520 let's be honest with each other here, and this is 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:57.559 a really landslide election that we're seeing tonight. And frankly, 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.400 it's been a landslide up to this point the state 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.320 of Virginia. You know, there are a lot of people, 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.800 different kinds of attitudes and the people in Virginia. I've 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.280 served as governor of the state. But Trump is carrying 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.519 the state tonight two to one, almost two to one, 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.480 and that's dramatic. And then many of the other states 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.480 are sometimes three and four to run to one. This 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:25.440 is a landslide primary victory tonight. So the point is this, 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.880 this is an opportunity for Nikki Helly to get out 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.040 and say, look, the time has come for us to 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.800 unify the people who have been supporting me. That's an 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.960 honest thing to do. Everybody that runs in an election 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.720 is going to get vote. The time has come to 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.240 really get out there and talk about the serious business 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.720 of changing the country, of really addressing the issue on 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.840 the border, of really addressing crime in the streets, of 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.880 really addressing this problem of inflation which President Biden created. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.720 Let's face it, at the beginning of his administration. He 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.760 created this inflation. He did it deliberately. But the problem 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.440 is that working men and women discovery of suffering because 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.680 of this is costing so much money now just to 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:09.359 have the necessities of life. There's a president amath of COVID. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:11.640 Governor. We don't really have a way to confirm me 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:15.680 intentionally caused inflation here at Bloomberg, but I most recently 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.600 you were with us to talk about your passion to 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:23.240 fund our ally in Ukraine at war right now with Russia. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.000 If Donald Trump is the next president, A lot of 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.519 folks think that money might not be coming. Is that 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:28.760 a worry of yours? 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.320 Well, let me say this. You know and everybody else 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.880 knows that I am a strong supporter of Ukraine. I 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.640 believe the Russian aggression is a serious global issue and 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.480 has to be addressed. But when I was ambassador to 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.200 Ossee and Vienna on behalf of the United States, that 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.320 was the time when President Trump actually gave Javelin weapons 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.720 to the Ukrainians so that they could resist the Russian onslaught. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.840 He never really told me or anybody around me to 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.200 back up from the Russians. We were taking a very 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.320 strong message there. The point is that I believe that 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.160 the track record for President Trump has been strong on 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.920 foreign policy, and certainly if I'm in a position to 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.680 advise him, I would advise him of the importance of 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.440 the Ukrainian support. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.320 Sir, are you hoping you would be in a position 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.320 to advise him in a second administration? Would you seek 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:17.720 a job? 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.280 Well, I'd seek to have an opportunity to to offer 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.200 him the best counsel that I can s up to 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.000 the President as to what he wants to do. But I, 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.680 on my part, feel strongly about this issue and about 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.599 the other issues as well. And you know, once again 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.240 I've beg to differ with you on inflation. I observed 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.440 all those big, big spending programs to President Biden was 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.919 putting in place at the beginning of the administration, and 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.440 I knew, just like you did, that it was inevitably 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:49.080 going to cause inflation, and we got inflation. The interesting 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.719 question is the impact that it has on working men 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.560 and women. This is now a populist campaign, which really 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.880 means that he's concerned about people living paycheck to paycheck, 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.280 people who are trying to makegainst me trying to pay tuitions, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:06.240 trying to pay gas, trying to pay groceries. This is 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.600 a campaign, and a candidate addresses and speaks to those issues. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:10.200 All right. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.240 Jim Gilmore, former chairman of the Republican National Committee, former 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.320 governor of Virginia, thank you so much for joining us. 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.560 Joining us now is Selinda Lake, the president of Lake 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.880 Research Partners, for her take on what we've learned this evening. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.000 It's great to see you on Super Tuesday. Thanks, thanks 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.520 for it. Here is the story tonight that the pollsters 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.920 were right. Ah, I'd love that to be the story. 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.279 We're never no one ever says that I'm coming back 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.040 every night. But you guys, no, I think the story 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.760 is the same story it was like six months ago. 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:42.680 Joe Biden is going to be the nominee of the 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.800 Democrats and Donald Trump is going to be the nominee 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:45.680 of the Republicans. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.200 Fair enough, Okay, fair enough. And Nikki Hayley perhaps was 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.880 a factor only on the margins and may not be 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.760 a factor after this evening, depending on what decisions. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:55.479 She We hope she stays in. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:58.720 How likely is that though? In your mind? 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.640 I think it depends on her own owners, And I 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.279 think I would assume that there's an awful lot of 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.200 pressure for her to get out if she doesn't win 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.640 anything tonight. But you know, it depends on her donors. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.680 That's when candidates get out, when they run out of money. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.000 Yeah, of course, there's a special group out there, seventeen 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:19.919 percent who dislike both candidates. I'm to be honest with you, 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.400 I'm surprised on some days that number is so small 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.359 considering the conversation we're having in America right now about 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:29.120 age about divisiveness. What did they do stay home? 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.680 It's a really great question, and in some of the 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.240 polls it's a size twenty twenty one percent. It's record 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.159 high number for this early in the game. By the 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.440 end of the campaign, there's often a number of voters, 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.320 but this is a record high number this or like 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.120 many of them are contemplating third party and when you 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.680 push them, they'd really like a different set of choices. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.160 But when you push them right now, they go for 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.080 Joe Biden, and they have pretty consistently. That's good news 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.880 for us because in twenty sixteen they search for Donald Trump. 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.400 So it's a very different election time. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.760 Well, so when we're looking at some of the figures 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.800 in these Republican primary states in which Nicki Haley, while yes, 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.120 is losing to Donald Trump, she's pulling pretty consistently right now, 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.920 knowing the full figures aren't in twenty to thirty percent, 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.440 how many Nicki Haley voters could become Joe Biden voters? 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.520 Is there an overlap in the ven diagram of those 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.760 double haters and the people who are voting for Nicki Haey? 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.880 Is an overlap but it's hard because they hate Joe 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.440 Blacking so much, so I think it's more Liza. They'd 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.000 be third party. There's also a lot of voters considering 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:33.320 skipping the race, not skipping voting, but skipping the race, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:34.280 so down. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:35.680 The ballot just yeah, top, yeah. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.000 And that's interesting because we've only had like three percent 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.760 of the voters that do that normally, and usually the 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.120 presidential brings people in, but now that presidential is discouraging people. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.840 How about that? So tell us about the sample. We 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.720 keep hearing the samples broken, people light upholster, They don't 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.280 answer their damn phone anymore. You have to get them online. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.040 How do you get an accurate number in this world? 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.280 Well, it's really hard. And can you tell all your 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.040 viewers to please pick up the phone yourself. If it 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:02.560 says Lake Research Polls. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:03.160 Please take it out. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.520 Oh yeah, But you call them back time and time again. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:12.080 You offer them multiple ways to respond online, telephone, text, 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.640 and you also you try to like we introduce ourselves 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.520 by saying we're not selling anything. We're not going to 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:18.600 ask you for a contribution. 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:19.600 Because people like. 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.360 To give their opinions, but they just don't want to 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.320 be hammered to change your utilities. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.040 That's the first word out of your mouth. I'm not 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.200 selling you anything, and I am not a liar yet 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:31.160 from this. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.400 Yeah, this is how the sausage is made. The sausage 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.439 being political polls in the United States you mentioned a 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.480 few times now though, So Linda, this idea of people 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.640 maybe going to a third party. You don't like this 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.600 general election matchup between Democrats and Republicans. You look for 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:50.120 option see whatever option see is Utah just closed at 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.640 the top of this hour at ten pm Eastern. RFK 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.599 Junior was on the ballot in Utah. He's struggled to 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.080 get on other ballots, though. How real of a factor 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.400 is he in this in this contest? 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.400 Well, the interesting thing is, first of all, he's not 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.160 on the ballot in very many places, but he is 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.400 on the ballot in a cup of swing states. It's 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:11.840 also RFK is being misunderstood for his father. You probably 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.360 saw the poll by Echelon where half of the voters 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:18.520 identified his father's picture for him. And what's interesting is 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.160 if you get to know him, you don't like him, 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.200 but that name is very formidable on the Democratic side, 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:28.079 and all of the third parties pull from the Democrats. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.079 That pulls from Joe Biden. And this is the important 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.520 piece that third parties can't win, but they can't be 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.360 spoilers and they can elect Donald Trump. 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.200 It has to be like Democrats need to run a 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:41.559 clarifying campaign on this. I'm being serious, This isn't your 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:42.800 father's Kennedy. 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.800 Well, they actually have in the Free Press, and people 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.040 are quite surprised when they hear that he's an anti vaxer, 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.760 when they hear that he has a mixed record on abortion, 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.640 They think of him as a Kennedy and environmentalist. So 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:55.840 what could be wrong with that? 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.000 Well, you bring up abortion. Of course, in the last 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.560 election cycle, mid term cycle in twenty twenty two, we 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.840 saw that issue as really being a turnout driver and 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:08.640 in fact a disruptor in the elections. Democrats performed significantly 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.079 better than was expected going in. Is that going to 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.960 be the same kind of force in twenty twenty four? 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.800 It doesn't have the same galvanizing effect that much further 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.559 down the road from the Dobbs decision, the overturning of Rope. 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.000 Well, this is the gift that keeps on giving. So 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.719 there were some voters who thought, well, they're done it's 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.120 over until the IVF decision and then the Supreme Court 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.080 in Alabama, and then the Supreme Court decision that's coming 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.240 down about jailing providers in Idaho, and then the Supreme 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:39.520 Court decision that comes down about medication abortion nephipristone. And 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.920 what voters have concluded is they're not done yet. They 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.880 really mean it, they really want a national ban. And 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.240 there are a number of states that have initiatives on 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.560 the ballot and we haven't lost an initiative yet. We 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.920 saw the surgeon turn out in Ohio on campuses and 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:00.480 young people. So yes, this is a very key rategic 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.520 element of the twenty twenty four elections. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.480 So often we have Slimda Lake at the table here 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.160 do a little quick math with us. Trump campaign says 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:12.520 he's presumptive nominee, likely by March nineteenth, maybe even the twelfth, 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.040 after running the table like this tonight. Yeah, it's the 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:16.320 earlier date in your view. 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.559 I think so, And honestly, I think he's a nominee today. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.360 I think he was a nominee last month. And Joe 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.400 Biden is our nominee in Kate there was any question 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:24.760 about that. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.080 I just want to follow up on your point though 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.040 about young voters. You mentioned how the abortion issue drives 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.880 them out, but we also saw in Michigan young voters 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:37.280 in the college towns yeah, ann Arbor and East Lansing, 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.320 more of them voting uncommitted because young people also have 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.840 a problem with the president's stance on Israel, given what's 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.160 happening to Palestinian life in Gaza. How concerned are you 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.880 about the uncommitted movement or more just what it means. 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.240 I'm very concerned about it. I'm very concerned about the 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.920 division among young voters because that was part of our 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.640 secret sauce, not just for this election, but for the 0:11:58.720 --> 0:11:59.480 long term. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:00.880 I will say this. 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:03.960 They're not going to vote for Donald Trump. They might 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.600 vote for third party right, they could not show up, 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.160 they could skip to presidential, they could vote with third party. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.000 The president and the vice president taken lots of actions 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.920 around abortion, around student loans. I hope and pray that 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.800 we have a ceasefire before Ramadan and all of those 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.080 will be important. But young voters are very divided, and 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.840 it's very very serious concern for our party. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:30.240 We're waiting for results in Utah. Just to reset. If 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.800 you're joining us late here, as part of our special 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.920 coverage on Bloomberg TV and Radio. Donald Trump winning eleven 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.600 of fifteen states. It's been a sweep so far, Kayley. 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.680 I know that you've got your eyes on Vermont here 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.480 and that could swing back into Nikki Haley's favorite here, 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.960 but this is pretty remarkable. Joe Biden now also winning 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:53.000 the Democratic presidential primary in Utah, and we should have 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:57.120 mentioned if we didn't already, Minnesota came in for Joe Biden. Kayley. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.679 We'll be looking at the results a little more carefully. 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.480 To get back to what you were talking about him. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:07.079 The series of uncommitted protest campaigns in states like Minnesota, 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.240 much like we saw in Michigan, give us a sense 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:10.840 of what to look for in the general. 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.880 Yeah, or what to look forward to in the state 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.760 of the Union is Biden tries to message around those issues. So, Linda, 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.800 it's worth noting that Super Tuesday is today, forty eight 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.400 hours from now. Joe and I will still be here 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.920 in studio for another long day because the President will 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.920 be addressing the nation, perhaps the biggest speech he can 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.800 give in this election cycle, aside from the convention. What 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.040 is the number one thing he needs to message in 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:32.600 that speech. 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.520 I think there are three things that he needs to do. One, 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.880 he needs to set up the contrast, and he's really 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.880 fighting mad and prepared to do that. Number Two, he 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.360 needs to address the economy and inflation, and I think 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.120 you're going to hear him be very very aggressive about 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.520 price gouging and rising prices and the actions they're going 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.520 to take and they have taken. And then the third 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.199 thing is he has to paint the picture of what 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.800 four more years of Joe Biden will be and what 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.840 the hell that four more years of Donald Trump could be? 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.520 All Right, Slinda Lake, great to have you with us 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.160 at our DC studios this evening. Really appreciate you joining us, 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:10.120 Linda Lake, Lake Research Partners, President and polster. Now we 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.319 want to get some final thoughts from our political panel, 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.040 Rick Davis, partner at Stone Cord Capital, and Jeanie Shanzano, 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.360 political science professor at Iona Universities. We wrap up our 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:22.200 Super Tuesday programming here on Bloomberg Television and Radio. Genie, 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.240 first to you, what really did we learn tonight? 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.800 I think we learned that Joe Biden has a task 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:32.040 ahead of him with this unusual setup of Super Tuesday. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.200 And then two days later the State of the Union. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:35.640 And his task is big. 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.320 That maybe why he didn't come out tonight and speak publicly, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.280 and it is to tell the American public not only 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.120 what he's done, but what he is going to do. 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.280 And you know, he is facing really bad poll numbers 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.040 over the last weekend, so he's got his work cut 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.680 out for him. But he has the race that he wanted, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.360 and so does Donald Trump. They both wanted to face 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.000 each other again, even if we don't want it. That's 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.360 what they want and they're going to get it. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.520 Eat to be the wet blanket here, but I'm always 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.480 glad to play that role. We said in New Hampshire 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.400 it was a late night there, Rick, we said this 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.440 would be the beginning of the general election. Here we 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.560 are saying it again. Did we just waste all that time? No, 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:12.400 it's not wasted. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.320 I mean it was interesting and we got to see 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:15.240 a little bit of fighting. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:16.480 But there's no. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.160 Question this was Donald Trump's night. Not only was it 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.240 Donald Trump's night because he collected the delegacy needs he'll 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.120 he'll finish it off next week. But the reality is 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:28.760 that they both of his opponents, Nicky Haley and Joe 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.240 Biden gave him the night. It was his night to 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:35.160 talk and nobody else did so. As Genie said, Biden's 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.240 got a job to do. On Thursday, that'll be his 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:41.160 night to talk and and that will signify the real 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.720 cutting of the ribbon and off to the general election. 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.800 This is the moment that voters are going to be 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.480 looking in to see what the candidates were saying. They'll 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:54.680 see Donald Trump in the news tomorrow the victor, and 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.840 they'll wait to see I guess from Joe Biden on Thursday. 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.560 Absolutely, and of course we're can. Genie will be with 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.680 us on Thursday for that coverage of State of the 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.840 Use It Union, And come Thursday, we don't know whether 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.320 or not Nicki Haley will still be in this race. 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.040 We have about ninety seconds left with you two, if 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.760 you had to put odds by the next time we 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.760 see you on Thursday on State of the Union night 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:18.840 as to whether or not Nicki Haley will still be 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:20.280 in the running. Genie, would you take that? 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.080 But oh, I have no idea. 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.640 You know, I think, you know, I think it depends 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.520 on the donors. I mean, I think in this case, 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.560 you really do have to do what Bloomberg does best 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.000 follow the money, because she doesn't get out because she's 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:33.520 not going to win. She gets out because she can't. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.760 She doesn't have the money to go forward. So I 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:37.520 think it's all up to her donors. 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.800 I think, yeah, I think that quiet is telling us 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.440 everything there's there's there'll be no more campaign that has 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.880 any legitimacy, And if she does, it's only a matter 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:49.800 of time before she gets out. And then the question 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:51.480 is does she endorse Donald Trump or not. 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.040 That's spoken from somebody who's been there and had those 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.240 hard conversations. Well, of course, keep you posted on whatever 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.360 we're hearing from Nicki Haley's campaigns to Rick Davis and 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.360 Geanie Shanzano. That does it for us here for now 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:05.280 in Washington,