RHOP Recap: Too Much Too Face with Claudia & Dustin

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Well, look, honey, the latest up day has to do with Wendy and Eddie. So what's happening now is this Wendy's attorney wants the case thrown out, pretty much dismissed, because she is alleging that the arrest was illego and that any evidence they found should be thrown out in court. Because of this, that's all the information we have as of now. Eddie has hired an attorney that was a part of the Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky trial. His attorney represented Linda Tripp.

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Speaker 2: Now, as you some of u range jobs may not, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, be old enough, but Linda Tripp was considered a whistle blower because that was allegedly Manica Lewinsky's spread and she take recorded the intimate details of Monica Lewinsky gave her So that lawyer who represented Linda Tripp is representing Eddie, and he also has.

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Speaker 1: Jurisdiction in state and federal. As of now, the case of state not federal. Federal is a much bigger deal, but he has jurisdiction to do both. So they're both wanting the case to be thrown out because they're saying that the rest was a legal based on the circumstances that.

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Speaker 2: We will know later.

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Speaker 1: Based on that, Dustin, what are your thoughts on this new development.

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Speaker 4: Well, like anyone who we would assume has some sense, right if they alleged, if the allegations are true, maybe that's up for debate as well, right, But if if Eddie has the sense that we assumed that he has, of course he would see legal counsel that would be fit and ready to handle a case of this magnitude, that has already fought a huge case like that.

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Speaker 5: My thing is, you got these.

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Speaker 4: Cleaning era lawyers and shit, does this mean Eddie's gonna get on the news next?

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Speaker 5: I did not stage the robbery in that house?

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Speaker 4: Is he gonna be talking this the way Bill Clinton was talking back in the day, is that's what's happening next or what can we expect here?

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Speaker 5: But I don't blame him one bit. I'd be trying to get the best.

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Speaker 4: I ain't gonna say that, but I'll be trying to get the best lawyer.

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Speaker 5: I'll be going to great links to get the best of the best.

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Speaker 4: Okay, if I was in either one of their positions, So not surprising, and that's what they should do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the stakes are too high for them to just get a RinkyDink you know, legal zoom dot com lawyer, not that there are great lawyers there, but you're gonna have to get someone that has a reputation that's gotten high profile cases. You know, they exonerated whatever. Yeah, this is what is supposed to do. You're not supposed to say I didn't do it. You're supposed to first poke holes, poke holes in the in the prosecution, poke holes in the arrests. That's the same thing they're doing with some of the other trials right now. That's going on with James. Call me like, oh, you know, go after the people that are picked to go after you. And that's just one of the options and then you get to the facts of the case. But first I think it's good lawyering. I'm sure this lawyers charging an arm and a leg. And you know that four hundred fifty thousand dollars coming handy right now, it's made us.

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Speaker 5: You know you're gonna need up right. They eat their money up fast.

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Speaker 7: Right, It's gonna be very fast.

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Speaker 6: But if you know Eddie, I from what I know, are here, he has makes a pretty good amount of money, and so does Wendy. They want to maintain their reputations. There is no money that you wouldn't spend for this. You got it, You gotta do it, You gotta.

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Speaker 7: Go for it. Now.

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Speaker 6: Me might want to take the l and Bill. Let me do some time and I can come out with some street cred.

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Speaker 7: They stop playing with me. When I get out, I'll have a tear drop of mom.

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Speaker 6: I come on, what, Yeah, I still talk about some ten years ago, and will what.

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Speaker 7: You want to be another drop on my face.

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Speaker 2: I do want to make things clear, though, Claudia Dustin.

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Speaker 1: They have Wendy and Eddie have separate lawyers, and Wendy has asked that her and Eddie be tryed died separately as individuals, not a couple. So Eddie has his lawyer who used to represent Linda Tripp, Wendy has her own lawyer, and they do not want to be tried together.

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Speaker 2: They want to be tried separately.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are comparing this to what Teresa Judas and Joe Judais did, where as a married couple, they both were accused of tax invasion. I think that's the proper term. If it's not, I apologize in advance. But they were not tried as a couple because Joe Judais wanted to take full responsibility for it and wanted his wife to be exonerated from that. Claudia, do you think that's what's happening in this case? Do you think by them getting separate lawyers and wanted to be tried separately, that Eddie, as a man of a house, may want in case something bad does happen that he takes a fall for to preserve Wendy's faiths.

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Speaker 7: Maybe who asked? Did Wendy ask or did he ask?

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Speaker 5: Good question?

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Speaker 6: That's what I wanted. That was where you're gonna find your information. If she asked, that's kind of that's.

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Speaker 7: Like wasn't me.

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Speaker 5: I hope don't see that.

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Speaker 7: That's what that says to me.

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Speaker 6: I feel like if we were innocent together, we'd be like, now we're gonna fight this, like you know, hey, we have nothing. But if it is, if you know your person the hands a little bit dirty than yours, you might say, hey, I'm innocence, I'm innocence.

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Speaker 7: I don't know I would.

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Speaker 6: I think that's odd for a married couple to do that, unless you know the man wants one person wants to say, you know what, you didn't have any to do with it. It was what was my idea? I want to take that. I'm going to take that for the family. Which if that's the case, then that's a very honorable thing for whoever is saying that. But I would like to know whose idea that was. I think that would tell us more. But this dogs man, this would suck for both of them.

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Speaker 4: I don't blame Wendy if she's the one who requests separate lawyers. Look, I tell them my name might be Wendy, but this ain't Wendy's. So you ain't about to get no four for four, are you?

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Speaker 5: Damn sure? Ain't fitna get no two for two.

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Speaker 4: So separate these charges, separate these cases, separate this paperwork, cut everything down the motherfucking middle, and in some cases put a little heavier on that side. Because that's who did it. I don't blame her, not one bit or him. If he's who suggested it. They deserve every single accommodation available to them to ensure a fair trial and to put them in the best position possible. I really hope they didn't do it, and I hope that this all goes away.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Dog, Yeah, if you think, Carlos, do you think what do you think this says about their relationship?

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Speaker 7: About guilts, about or or innocence.

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Speaker 1: I think I think everything is strategy. I think everything. I think when you are a married couple and you are facing something so heavy like this, I think strategy is the is the move versus the court of public opinion. I think I think based on somebody who was around the time that Teresa doubled their situation, one thing that did come out was Joe said, my wife had no idea what I was doing. I gave her papers to sign, and she signed blindly.

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Speaker 2: Leave her alone.

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Speaker 1: And look I also think look Joe Judi an Italian man right born.

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Speaker 2: Bred and raised in Italy.

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Speaker 1: Right, I think the I think his culture and what a man stands for in that culture. He wanted to take full responsibility because at the end of the day, this is Joe's words, now mine.

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Speaker 2: He said I did everything and she did nothing.

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Speaker 7: They're very honorable.

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Speaker 6: When it comes they may be the biggest criminals in the world. Mind, let me be in my Italian familiar real quick.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: May they may kill people sit outside of a cigar shop and and and and broad daylight, but damn it, they are honorable when it comes to their family.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I kill that family of five.

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Speaker 6: But my wife is innocent. I will take the l for my family.

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Speaker 7: I will say that. Uh. You know.

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Speaker 6: Also, what about when you there are certain laws with US crimes. I know it's with married couples where they can't force you to testify against your spouse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it will be that.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure that weakens the case, like both of their cases. So maybe that is a good strategy, Like, Hey, you know, I'm not gonna be testifying against you. You're not gonna be testified against me.

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Speaker 7: I don't I don't know. I'm just thinking like maybe strategy.

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Speaker 1: I know you you're you're really good with Yeah, I think all of it strategy. I think because what what Joe wanted was let her raise our four daughters. I'll take the ball, I'll serve the time. Let my wife, who had nothing to do with this, let her stay at home with the kids.

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Speaker 2: Give me whatever you want to give me. Throw the book at me.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately they through the book at both of them.

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Speaker 2: But but what happened was.

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Speaker 5: And the book was right Carlos, I.

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Speaker 2: Love the story. I love you so much. Hey do y'elle. So I do think because of that.

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Speaker 1: One thing the court did do Claudia who Teresa served first. So Teresa served her year sentence first Claudia so that Joe was able to be home.

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Speaker 2: With the kids.

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Speaker 1: And when Teresa got out, then Joe had to serve his time, and then Claudia he was deported.

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Speaker 2: So I said all of that to say, I think all of his strategy. I think Eddie, being.

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Speaker 1: A Nigerian man, I think he would want to protect his wife by eating these necessary.

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Speaker 2: In the event that there is a guilty verdict.

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Speaker 1: I think, in my opinion, Eddie as a man, may want to protect.

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Speaker 6: His Yeah, he's the honorable man taking prison sentences for their women. That seems to be a recurring theme and housewives franchises. It does seem like the men take the l and the ones that you know, get tagged for that's that's that's good. That's what's up.

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Speaker 7: I like that.

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Speaker 5: That's Joe. So you you can put me away, you can send me away, but you you just gotta let teresay. You just gotta let Tree. Ain't don't call the tree. Yeah, let tree do it. My wife, the fucking bitch, remember when he was outside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing knows all of this itself.

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Speaker 5: Those are the good days of New Jersey all.

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Speaker 6: The fact, like he like like almost like a photo photographic memory, photogetic memory when it comes to uh, photographic memory.

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Speaker 7: My bad, I can't even remember the goddamn word. Damn.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a lot going on, Claudia.

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Speaker 7: I don't even know what.

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Speaker 6: Data is, Like, I guess it's one day because I with y'all. But honestly, time and dates is good on the phone, being a therapist and my friends today just doing a homework of stuff and I did my five miles so yeah.

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Speaker 5: Hip hop Miami trailer.

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Speaker 7: Oh, you saw that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to watch it.

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Speaker 1: So Rain John's support Claudia Jordan as she is making guess appearances a lot.

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Speaker 6: Apparently, I'm not a cast member, just guess appearances, but they keep bringing me deeper and deeper. But I'm just like, I'm there to support my Garada. She's going through it.

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Speaker 5: And what you, Taylor, I mean like he's got somebody else pregnant. That's what.

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Speaker 7: Listen, everyone's gonna be like Claudia's messy. Why ain't that business?

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Speaker 6: At this point, I'm gonna just yes, I embrace it. It's telling your friend stuff you got in your d MS about something that's major infects your lives is messy, then color me a mess I'll take that. I am a girls girl. I will always look off my friends, not just a girl's girl. I'm a friend's friend.

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Speaker 2: You are, You're a good friend.

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Speaker 6: I rely for my friends, even if it makes me look bad in the court of public opinions. I could give a fuck with these strangers think. I care what my friends think, and that's that.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I do want to end it by asking you all this question. So to wrap up, Eddie and Wendy's updates. Four days ago, Eddie promoted that he's having a Happy Eddie pop up on October thirtieth in Silver Spring, Maryland, where he will be giving away all types of goodies. He is encouraging people to pick up your favorite Happy Eddie zen. When velvet slippers, I was appout to say strippers, Lord, Jesus, I'll got my glasses, nod not velvit strippers, Lord. Then within velvet slippers, nutty professor, Oreo's apple, fred er Nige, you're in a silver and mischief Claude is with this one just a time for the weekend. So look, it looks like Eddie is continuing his business Happy Eddie. He's going to pop up shop rain Drops, if you guys are going to go there October thirtieth.

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Speaker 2: Repert back to us, please, but what do I think about that? Dusted?

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Speaker 5: I mean nothing.

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Speaker 2: You try Happy Eddie products?

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Speaker 4: No, And I want to so they can actually run me a box. Now here's my thing. That's exactly what he needs to be doing. Number One, he's stressed out, so he needs to smoke some weed right now right. Number two, he's stressed out financially. He needs to sell some weed right now. Okay, he needs to do that as well. At number three, he's being accused of like a theft related offense. He needs to give something away, so he needs to give some of that weed away to other people so they can calm him down a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I think this is great. This is exactly what Eddie needs to be doing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems like when you have like drama like this, you just got to keep busy with other things. I was tell my friends were like, man, it's going through some things like that dealing with you. Look at their Instagram page, it's always like they're talking about their kids all of a sudden.

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Speaker 7: All the time.

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Speaker 6: That man, you get caught cheated in a scandal. They'd be like, oh, I just put it all of my kids, all of every game, every game. Oh when a man is unemployed, Oh my god, their entire page is about their kid all of a sudden.

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, and my lion tell tale time every time You're right.

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Speaker 7: They'd be like, kid be on their shoulder. It a lot I do. This is who I do it all for.

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Speaker 6: So I'm not saying he's I'm saying he should keep busy like movement because if not, the perception and perception is everything in reality television is you know you're home open, you must be guilty. But if you're you're keeping it moving, you're keeping it busy, it looks like you're unbothered and you get it's a it's a good move, like a pr move.

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Speaker 7: It definitely is like shod to stop anything. I'm not guilty. Why would I not do my events?

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Speaker 6: I've been doing this, this was on the schedule, Like, why would I not do it. I'm gonna do a whole bunch of events now and here go my kids, here go my kids game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, OK, look I think it's all and again to me, it's strategy. It's what Claudia said is showing that, look, we are innocent until proving guilty. Wendy is promoting Potomac every Sunday now, she promoted it last night.

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Speaker 2: Eddie's promoting his products.

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Speaker 1: I think Claudia is accurate in the sense of we are going to keep moving as the innocent people we are until we were found guilty or not.

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Speaker 2: I do think that's what you should be doing.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Y, They literally just broke into the cannabis industry. What about two years ago.

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Speaker 7: I think it's yeah, wrong choice.

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Speaker 2: The word friend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they just broke into that industry, you know what I'm saying, like two years ago, so it's still fresh.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think that it makes sense we're going to continue pressing forward with that, you know, breaking down barriers and ship in that industry.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I think that's great.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be.

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Speaker 6: Careful too, like in that industry. I invested in something like that a long time ago. And uh, like it's like they're very they used to be very strict in particular with like your your record had to have such a clean record as far as like you know, the law. So that's something something I definitely see them want to fight for their innocence, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, So listen once again, you're innocent until proven guilty, and we will update you guys as we hear more. But now let's get to episode four of The Rare Housewives of Potomacs. So Dustin and Claudia they picked up at the Derby and look.

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Speaker 7: Yo, they are so cavvy.

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Speaker 6: I'm like yellow at the Derby Preaknance Preakness and the First Lady of Maryland who will be the first that will be the first Lady of America.

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Speaker 7: Eventually, when our husband Wes.

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Speaker 6: Moore wins and become a president, they are future first Lady and President one thousand percent. It's totally being like planned, like it's gonna happen, okay, So like.

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Speaker 7: Yo, you're you're in front of the high.

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Speaker 6: Class event and they were so it was so much pettiness and cantiness, and I was like, damn, they are really being a mess.

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Speaker 7: And this is walso was giving us good TV because they was all.

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Speaker 6: Like reading each other down and making little comments and some of stuff was petty. But I'm like, y'all doing this right here at pregnant like preakness. Everyone's fighting like they're really like no one is even taken into consideration the surroundings. They ain't given a damn. They're just like and whatever. Oh yeah, they could have First Lady butting each other every chance they get.

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Speaker 7: Giselle stir in the pot.

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Speaker 6: I mean, like for with the big spoons, that doesn't said last week, them big wooden spoons, he said, like.

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Speaker 7: Our grandma and grandma used to have in the house. It was it was, it was, it was.

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Speaker 6: It was I was like, they came out the gate almost the way Atlanta Housewives. This was a season where you're like almost like how newbies would just like I'm fighting from my spot.

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Speaker 7: It was that kind of energy.

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Speaker 6: I was like, damn, Like there was never a moment where they didn't get the chill at all.

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Speaker 7: They earned all their paychecks that episode.

00:19:23
Speaker 4: Like everybody, everybody in that episode was on this episode.

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Speaker 5: This was a very potent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, on your jasel briant jizzy, Okay, right there, what Karen says, stove pipe, that's right, you get on your stove pipe, that's right.

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Speaker 7: Winding it up? Are you dirty? Winding up from the way down?

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Speaker 5: Hey, that's stirring up on vegetables with his vegan ass.

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Speaker 2: To check.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, this is a very potent episode. It was shit going on everywhere you turn. Every five minutes. It was another explosive conversation.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It was the most pace, was the most passive aggressive side swipe and ass remember I've ever seen in my life in this episode, and it was fascinating to watch. I enjoyed it, and Wendy Show wanted people to know she had them little binoculars, did she She walked off that bus or van, whatever the fuck they was on.

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Speaker 5: She walked off of there. As soon as she walked off, Hello, and she put him in there.

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Speaker 4: And then when she walked and was greeted by the staff, ah, she put him up.

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Speaker 5: She wanted people to see her binoculars.

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Speaker 6: Nobody let anybody rest for ten seconds, like it was any chance to get to throw shape.

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Speaker 7: They were throwing shade.

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Speaker 6: Nobody left anything on the table, even as far as like how Wendy kept saying the first lady, the first lady, the first lady, and then they didn't show the first lady was like first lady.

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Speaker 7: Did not want to be on potomac Riche was.

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Speaker 1: Gad, let me tell y'all something, Claudia. The fact that hi producer here, So let me tell y'all. I mean y'all to know. Let me just let the rain jomps know. I'm gonna let Claudia cook. So it's the fact that the producers approached the first lady who immediately.

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Speaker 2: Declined on the spot.

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Speaker 1: They filmed it anyway, but they filmed it to where the camera did not even show her face. I thought it was very clever though, that they even showed the fact that she was there and how only Windy and Gizelle spoke to her.

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Speaker 2: But I thought that was hysterical.

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Speaker 6: And then the other girl, I forgot which one said it, but they was like, you know all this first lady, first lady, first lady. She gave us like basically dust like she gave us like a quick and kept it moving.

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Speaker 2: But it's what you said. She I didn't cause I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with her background.

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Speaker 1: But now that you're saying that they have the potential to be first lady, I think she's like, look, I may watch this show, but baby, they're about to use this.

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Speaker 2: Against me in a presidential debates.

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Speaker 7: And she did the right thing.

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Speaker 6: Listen, there's plenty of political figures that are friends with reality stars. Trust me, I'm friends with a few myself, but that doesn't mean star too. Oh yes, yes, and he tried to have an affair with me back in the day.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you to kiss me.

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Speaker 7: And everyone knows it. And I have a witness.

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Speaker 6: My best friend also was there for the one time and it was at the Beverly Hills Hotel at the Bungalows.

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Speaker 7: So it's not allegedly.

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Speaker 6: And and if he wants to deny it, uh, you know, it's two against one and your security keeps there and he knows. So yeah, it's not allegedly. It is a fact.

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Speaker 7: So anyways, that being said, a lot.

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Speaker 6: Of them, a lot of politicians, a lot of who's who love watching reality shows.

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Speaker 7: But that doesn't mean they want to get you know, they won't want to get in the mud with it.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, hey Trump, he's a love me. He to be like other Helloo, my beautiful Claudia. He told my mother one time, you know I made her And my mother said no, actually I made her.

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Speaker 7: She clocked him. I was like, yes, mom, she was like, no, I made her.

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Speaker 5: Lion shit over here.

00:23:18
Speaker 4: Since you loved her lies so much, you didn't make her.

00:23:21
Speaker 5: Damn daughter. I know your mama went off.

00:23:23
Speaker 7: You took me on the show, but you found me on another show. I was on a show.

00:23:26
Speaker 6: Actually, our show at higher ratings because del and O'Dell had way higher ratings than Celebrity Apprentice.

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Speaker 7: We were at thirteen million nights average. Who's counting?

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Speaker 2: And I think he was at nine the good old days.

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Speaker 5: Yes, fifteen million viewers ought to open the case too, and that was a.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Fifty magazines people's uh was it fifty most beautiful?

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Speaker 7: We did all that stuff extra whatever, you know, not to brag, but heway, what were you saying?

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Speaker 2: Don't miss it. I love that Claude has story for day.

00:24:00
Speaker 1: The thing is this, I do want to talk about the fact that this episode, like y'all said, it was jam packed.

00:24:05
Speaker 2: A lot happened.

00:24:07
Speaker 1: So they're at the derby the girls land. You know, this episode really showed the division amongst the group, but also showed how Giselle and Wendy are in.

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Speaker 2: Charge of the girls.

00:24:25
Speaker 1: And to me, they are a tag team when it comes to we are here to get the girls and to get them to work. So first thing, First, look, jazz Z comes in. Jazz who was a friend to the show. Yes, Dustin, I love me some Jazz. I had the pleasure of interviewing her from my podcast. She's a great interview and look, Jazz and KK started to get into it. So before I get your thoughts on it, I do want to remind the rain drops of this what you're watching and witnessing between Jazz and KK, and this is my opinion.

00:25:05
Speaker 5: I say what I think you're about to say.

00:25:09
Speaker 1: Oh so, so I'm gonna tell you what I what I ninety nine percent know it is those two last season were both up for a flute.

00:25:24
Speaker 7: Okay, a champagne.

00:25:27
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's that's okay because a lot of my audience when I know what that means. KK and Jazz were both up to be a housewife last season, and the words of Tarra Banks, I have two cars in my hands, and only one of you will make it to be America's next time Modo. So the thing is this, KK got a chance to be a housewife, while Jazz remains a friend of The controversy came with this. A lot of the audience felt that Jazz d does to be a housewife avery KK. One of the reasons why we're all seeing KK coming strong this season, and we'll get to that, is because I believe she's trying to prove me.

00:26:12
Speaker 2: Prove herself. Thank you.

00:26:14
Speaker 1: Jazz, and Kk's argument is strictly over the fact that we both started. You may have gotten the house by position, but I'm here to reclaim my throne. And that's what you're seeing because they are coming for blood and Windy is in the middle of watching it, and I look.

00:26:34
Speaker 2: I find it to be fascinating.

00:26:38
Speaker 6: Why they do Jazz like that, THO, don't put her in coach and let everybody else be in first class?

00:26:43
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I love how she handled it, like baby, this Champagne tation is just the same back.

00:26:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm fine.

00:26:50
Speaker 2: As a producer. I think this. I think.

00:26:55
Speaker 1: I think Jazzy was the last minute addition to the trip. Of flights were booked in advance. I think all the first class flights were sold out, and I think they told Jazz, if you want to come, I'm sorry, we only have coach, and like Dustin said, I think Jazz said, baby, I'll fly first class in real life.

00:27:15
Speaker 2: I ain't got a stuff for this show.

00:27:17
Speaker 1: I want to be there, and that's why, in my opinion, Jazz is going to go far. Jazzy. The thing with Jazzy is this Jazz did not come across too strong to me. Jazz came in, made her presence known, and you felt it, and I love it. Kk KK was bothered by Jazz the moment she walked in and the moment they started to get into it, she said, well, let's talk about what you said about Wendy.

00:27:45
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, these girls are coming for blood.

00:27:49
Speaker 7: It seems like they're setting Jazzy up to be a housewife by the way, like okay, the coach thing.

00:27:58
Speaker 6: Then they put ten on t want making her get up the plane last, Like, I feel like that's the setup for the redemption later on, and then she came and like, you know, she did make her presence. I think she's gonna be someone like by the end of the season, people are gonna begging for her to be a housewife.

00:28:15
Speaker 4: I love her speaking voice. I think she's really pretty. I think she's really articulate. I think she handles herself and regulates her emotions well. I think that she's not like a crash out. I think that she's very measured and poised. I like how she when she was in the middle of her verbal spat with who is she talking to Angel? When Giselle had told the group that Angel and Keiana did not want Jazzy to come on.

00:28:44
Speaker 5: The trip, and she looked at her. She asked her. She was like, is there a particular reason? Was there?

00:28:49
Speaker 4: What was the energy that get that you gave off that you didn't really were trying to avoid, or the way she asked her about it.

00:28:54
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, see, she knows what she's doing that life.

00:28:59
Speaker 4: In real life, her and her man travel the world, had a beautiful wedding. Angel made some comments kind of suggesting that jen Z's now husband and at the time fiance, was a less valuable member of his NFL.

00:29:13
Speaker 7: Team, A bench warmer.

00:29:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, bench warmer, kind of like a yeah, yeah, he was living good. So I don't know. I like the way Jazzy handled her business.

00:29:25
Speaker 4: I think that that equates to sustainability in the housewives world, when you can keep your composure in high stress situations like that and kind of play the game and really get into like the ping poems of it, all the back and forth.

00:29:38
Speaker 5: I like that.

00:29:39
Speaker 4: To me, that adds value to her. So I think you may be onto something. Hopefully we do see more of her, because I really thought she was interesting. And I still like Keana too. I know a lot of people have kind of abandoned ship, but I think Keana looks at she.

00:29:51
Speaker 5: I think she's gorgeous.

00:29:53
Speaker 4: I love looking at her and her professionals I think she has good taste, and I think that after this hot season, you know, I think she'll come out feeling a little bit more confident after the reunion, and hopefully next season should be just a little bit more kind of settled, a little more self assured.

00:30:11
Speaker 5: And we'll get the value that I really see in her.

00:30:14
Speaker 6: So she's got to be exst she's got to be exhausted though KK.

00:30:20
Speaker 7: Stuff now with Jazzy, then over here with Wendy.

00:30:22
Speaker 6: It's like it's like from all then the thing with Angel, like it's a lot to like keep track of. Like, mentally, she's got to be exhausted, you know, I.

00:30:31
Speaker 2: Know, I think, yeah, go to your room.

00:30:34
Speaker 6: Like I I you know, you go do a scene and you're like, Okay, I got one person there that I know, don't fool me that I got incoming fire from one person here I have to worry about other than that.

00:30:43
Speaker 7: I'm good.

00:30:44
Speaker 6: But then when you're like over here, over here, over here, that's very mentally exhausting, and it does make you make a mistake, Yeah, that make you be off here.

00:30:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think. Look, I think KK has something to prove.

00:30:58
Speaker 1: I think KK was face to face with the woman where they vote were fighting for the Champagne flute to be a housewife. I think KK, as anybody would, let's have a real conversation. The moment KK saw Jazz, I'm sure she was like, so, am I not doing a good job if.

00:31:17
Speaker 5: I do you right?

00:31:19
Speaker 1: Like a are y'all bringing her on the show to replace me? Are y'all not satisfied with what I'm doing. I think it's what you said to Claudia. I think I think the sheer presence of Jazz was a mental fuck to KK. I think KK is coming across too strong for the viewers. But I agree with Dustin. I love KK. I think KK is great for the show. I met her in person. I told you guys at the airport that woman without makeup is even more stunning, and she has beautiful She's a beautiful woman, and two things can be true.

00:31:53
Speaker 2: I also love Jazz and I want Jazzy to be a housewife.

00:31:56
Speaker 1: I want Jazz and KK to be so like the new Crime of Potomac Ladies that can you know, be the future of the show by by possibly teaming up and like, you know what I wanted, what I honestly wanted, Although she's an og. I always in my mind wanted Ashley and Canvas to be the Bopsy twins and just like these two passion girls who are like five foot two running the show. I just thought that visually gonna be cute.

00:32:27
Speaker 6: But let me ask you this, Carlos, if you want to make her like make space for job in your housewife, who do you think is the weakest that.

00:32:33
Speaker 7: Needs that would maybe be on the topping block.

00:32:36
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I will say this, and let's listen, let's get right into it. Let's get right into it.

00:32:47
Speaker 5: Angel, Well, before I.

00:32:50
Speaker 1: Go that is so crazy. Before I go into that, I want to say this. The audience has given me a very hard time on.

00:32:58
Speaker 2: Giselle, and I get it. I don't give a shit. This is Gazelle's show.

00:33:03
Speaker 1: It is if it's Proof in the Pudding, it's her show.

00:33:07
Speaker 2: You're not getting rid of Zel because you won't with douctors.

00:33:10
Speaker 1: Now, nothing's happening, and that was evident this whole season, growing four episodes. Then Wendy, it's great to watch and she's she brings value again to what she did that. I was like, Wendy clocked it. Ashley, who Honestly, I've always had this this fifty to fifty with Ashley.

00:33:29
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying Ashley this season.

00:33:32
Speaker 1: I think I think so far, Angel is the one that I'm sort of like, Okay, Angel, when are you going to pop?

00:33:41
Speaker 5: Heia is popping already.

00:33:44
Speaker 1: I am here for Tiya and and Safety baby snap, crackle and pop.

00:33:50
Speaker 2: Writes Krispy treats.

00:33:52
Speaker 1: Safety is the one, but I want to get to Angel because Angel.

00:33:59
Speaker 7: Angel seems uncomfortable in her own skin.

00:34:02
Speaker 5: Cousin picture.

00:34:04
Speaker 7: She just seems.

00:34:07
Speaker 5: I don't know who that was two fades.

00:34:10
Speaker 2: And the words, I'm just.

00:34:19
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm in Dallas and there's like a group of girls I used to hang with and I don't hang with a couple of them anymore. Right, there's this one girl, Oh my god, she'd be so I posted a picture and didn't put a filter, but when they put a filter, it was too much, like there's a filter that it's like young and it's like level.

00:34:34
Speaker 7: One, two and three. One is slightly younger, like tighten it up a lovely, right, I love it? Two is like right, and three you're like a fourteen year old.

00:34:46
Speaker 6: And this girl would be so mad at me if I posted, and she would.

00:34:50
Speaker 4: Put like that pictures.

00:34:57
Speaker 5: I like her energy too, but she'd be added in the health and picture.

00:35:00
Speaker 6: Man when I say, there's a filter that puts a fourteen year old face on your body, and then I got.

00:35:07
Speaker 7: To explain ship. When motherfuckers meet you in person, and they'd be like, where's the homegirl with the blond hair. I'm like, she's right there. They're like, why you put the wine. I'm gonna no, that's her right there. I'm like, no, you're not. It's a whole like bone structure changes.

00:35:21
Speaker 6: I listen, I get a little jowl, and I am actually thinking about getting a little okay, But what we ain't gonna do is put a fourteen year old head on a fifty two year old body looking like.

00:35:32
Speaker 5: A prison pin pail.

00:35:33
Speaker 4: You know, they always seeing the best pictures, you know what I'm saying. The motherfuckers that ain't in jail, they send the best pictures of themselves to the people inside, and then when they get out and see them, they be like, they'd be like.

00:35:44
Speaker 7: I know you put me back go. I want to go back to jail.

00:35:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, you might as well.

00:35:48
Speaker 4: Either way, it's a sentence dealing with your ads, so yes, I I don't know. I think that when it comes to Angel, I felt like all the bones were there for the good housewife. And I'm not speaking past tense, right, this is only a show, so I don't want to speak prematurely because she could very well be successful on this cast, right. I think that she has a beautiful family unit. I love the fact that her and her husband are doing well. I love the fact that she has family members extended family members that are willing to contribute and film with her and be a part.

00:36:22
Speaker 5: Of her story. All that adds to the texture of the show.

00:36:26
Speaker 4: Right, But that answering of Hey, guys, just give me a little more time when it comes to these really unsolicited requests for personality to show up, Because my thing is, who the fuck are y'all to ask me when I'm gonna show up and show out on this cast. I'm sitting up here just like y'all, and the quickest way to give me the show up is by asking me stupid shit like that. Since she's not gonna do that, you know what I'm saying, She's gonna have to figure out something else either. You're gonna have to be fun. Look at Tia Tea is not really heavily involved in none of the drama, but she's original. She gives great commentary, she has great funny one liners. Her confessionals are funny. She's even funny.

00:37:06
Speaker 5: As a mom.

00:37:07
Speaker 4: Excuse me, that conversation between her and her son was hilarious, right. That's how you add value without being a part of the mess.

00:37:16
Speaker 5: To me, Stacy does a good job of that.

00:37:18
Speaker 4: Now she's in the mess now because they didn't tell her broth stink five hundred and twenty five, six hundred times, right, So she's got something to say now. But Stacy really was just original and quirky, like her personality and shit, And that's how you can add value without being messy. So hopefully Angel learns how to do that. But as of right now, you just kind of there love.

00:37:40
Speaker 6: I kind of feel bad for Angel, though I don't think she's a bad person.

00:37:43
Speaker 7: I think she's uncomfortable.

00:37:45
Speaker 6: And I think when you are walking into an established group of women that already have their camaraderie, they already have their alliances and.

00:37:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, and here you come, you feel like you're on an island.

00:37:56
Speaker 6: And then early on in the show, you're kind of called out on something by someone that's your friend.

00:38:01
Speaker 7: I see why she's uncomfortable.

00:38:02
Speaker 6: She's uncomfortable, and once you are uncomfortable, you're gonna be in your head. You think all the shade is probably to you. You're a little bit defensive, and when you're defensive, you're like tight, right, you can't really just relax and let the reads flow out. You're like kind of in your head too much. And I just think that's where she is right now. She could be redeemed. She could have one episode where she like, you know, gets it together and she like lets him have it and she's comfortable. But she does seem a little uncomfortable. And then her confession, she said a couple of times like I think I'm being misunderstood, and I think that's really really bothering her, and that bothers me too. I get it, it's nothing worse to being misunderstood. But she's also explain herself too.

00:38:40
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you what Angel's problem is. I I'm not nine for nine percent sure this is it? Okay, And Claudia, you've been around the girl, so you'll you'll give what I'm saying Angel has watched this show since season one. Angel has watched a lot of reality television. A lot of people who watch the show watch it like, Ooh, if I was there, I would ooh, you know Angel is Angel can't concentrate being on the show because she's too busy watching the show.

00:39:21
Speaker 2: Does that make Does that make sense? Does this like like she can't she can't focus.

00:39:27
Speaker 1: Because she's so she's so.

00:39:30
Speaker 2: Aware of Like that's he listen, I'm gonna jump ahead. And I look, I.

00:39:36
Speaker 1: Like Angel and and and when I saw when I saw her explain herself in interview, that to me, are the producers helping her?

00:39:45
Speaker 2: They're like, you're watching TV. I had a reality star. I'm not gonna say what show.

00:39:50
Speaker 1: I had a reality star who who read well in the casting tape and the moment you threw her to the wolves beating billy cast members, she was too is watching TV and and she thought it was easier Angels than her own head.

00:40:06
Speaker 7: That was Atlanta, wasn't it?

00:40:09
Speaker 2: And Atlanta before? But also happened on one of his.

00:40:20
Speaker 7: Doesn't it was?

00:40:21
Speaker 2: Steven?

00:40:21
Speaker 5: Seven? No, hey.

00:40:27
Speaker 2: Look and eight Claudia, you are so bath.

00:40:35
Speaker 1: Claudia nip it what the audience doesn't Angel. The reason why Angel is not clapping back at Gisel the way when he clocked it, like why'd you give me all the smoke when Gisell is because and Angel, I know you're watching. I love you, I think you're great, and this is not a bad thing. Angel is watching TV. Angel has looked at what Gizelle has done and she does not want with Gazelle and with Wendy. I don't think Wendy is Angel's type of chick based on how Wendy presents herself on the show, and I think that's why she has small for her. I think KK talking about Wendy to Angel also helped. But Angel's uncomfortableness is because Angel cannot get away from the fact that I am on the show with women I've watched for all these years, and I don't know how to be present.

00:41:31
Speaker 6: I think the best way to be on these shows and is now have been a fan. I really feel I know personally it helped me. I watched started watching the Housewives just when Keny you get on, so I only watched like a few episodes, maybe like less than ten episodes, so.

00:41:47
Speaker 7: You're not in awe of anybody. You're not like, oh my god, I remember this.

00:41:51
Speaker 6: Scene in that episode where you did this, and I don't want that to happen.

00:41:55
Speaker 7: Like you're just kind of like you don't really know what you're going up against.

00:41:57
Speaker 6: You're like, fuck it, I'm just gonna react to how I react in real life because I don't really know the backstory on all this shit. So you walk in there and not knowing. But you know that's the problem. He was a fan of the show, and that makes you kind of probably bite your tongue sometimes or be nervous. I mean, of course we're just assuming this, but yeah, that's.

00:42:16
Speaker 7: What I think.

00:42:17
Speaker 4: It shouldn't make you know, to get on that show and be original, even if you are a fan of the show, that you should know what works best, and you should definitely know what does not work best within those groups when it comes to personalities and approach. You know, the way that people approach their participation on the show. So Angel needs to get out of her head stop worrying about what people in the comment are gonna have to say. You can tell she's not really reacting in an authentic way. Sometimes, you know, you could tell her her responses and shit, the conversation I'll tell you this, I'll put it to you like this, the conversation she had on the phone with Keiana when she was talking shit about Wendy. Allegedly, they weren't speaking to each other the way we've seen them speak to each other on camera.

00:43:00
Speaker 5: A little bit. You know what I'm saying.

00:43:04
Speaker 4: We all doing our own ways. But I'm just saying, like, I think that's the difference. She's not really being one hundred percent herself. And I don't know, we'll see what happens. But the way jazzy and then popping up, you know what I'm saying, The way, honestly, the way Keana is playing seeds that can still be sown next season.

00:43:23
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:43:24
Speaker 4: She's playing seeds where she can repair relationships next season. This shit is gonna carry over for her, So she'll be fine. Tea is gonna be around because she's interesting and fresh. Karen is coming home, So somebody going anyway because Karen's coming home.

00:43:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard, and that's the reason why.

00:43:46
Speaker 1: And and to to add more context to it with Angel, even even when Stacy said that Angel gave her a not so warm welcome. That's because Angel doesn't see Stacy as an og.

00:44:02
Speaker 2: Let me tell y'all something. This is my opinion whatever.

00:44:05
Speaker 1: Angel only wants the respect of Giselle and Ashley. That's it. She doesn't look at Wendy that way. It is the reason why Stacey was like, you gave me not some more welcome. She's like, oh girl, that's just me. What like? No, she wants Gazelle's approval, love Gizillo, hate her. Ninety nine point nine percent of these new housewives joined the show wanting the approval of Gazell.

00:44:33
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant. It is what it is. They all do it, and she knows it.

00:44:38
Speaker 1: It's the reason why when you look at this episode, I have never in my life as a Fanta potomac seen Giselle be so messy and stirred the pot and not one person clocks her.

00:44:53
Speaker 6: Not one nobody clocked her. She was running circles. I was like, right, No one said nothing. They tried a little bit with you know who's and what happened?

00:45:05
Speaker 7: Nothing? Nothing.

00:45:07
Speaker 2: She said.

00:45:07
Speaker 1: Her talking was like keep and they all said, okay, I do want to ask y'all this. A lot of people in the comments based on this episode have alleged that Wendy now that her and Gazelle are cool, that Wendy is different because she now is joining Giselle, is stirring the pot and being messy because she got what she wanted, which is being Gizell friend, Dustin, Is that something you would agree with what the fans are saying.

00:45:42
Speaker 4: No, But what I will agree with them on is that there's a condescending element sometimes that appears with Wendy when she's talking to housewives that we could reasonably assume she deems insubordinate of her right, like if she's talking she has different conversation, different approaches to conversations.

00:46:02
Speaker 5: With Giselle than she does with Kiana.

00:46:06
Speaker 4: Okay, she has different approaches to disagreements with Giselle than she does with Keana. She had different approaches to her disagreements with Robin than she did with like Mia.

00:46:16
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:46:17
Speaker 4: There's a difference in the way that Wendy will react depending and people are like that. She's not alone in that personality trait. I see that a lot in people when they feel like you just that or whatever, or like Wendy Williams has said, mean he was an over there person.

00:46:32
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:46:33
Speaker 4: When people feel like they can dismiss you and file you away in a lesser than category, their way is different that they speak to you.

00:46:41
Speaker 5: And that's what we saw with Wendy.

00:46:42
Speaker 4: So I think people can interpret her ability to be condescending at times as that as her wanting to you know, position herself with that. But I think it's just her being haughty sometimes. That's what I think.

00:46:58
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with that.

00:47:00
Speaker 6: It See, I don't have a lot to compare to because I'm new. I'm new to Potomac, but like as a I can give it to you how I feel through like new eyes.

00:47:10
Speaker 7: It's not it's not appealing to me. It's like damn, like damn. It's given me and girl a lot, you know, Like.

00:47:18
Speaker 6: I know there's a like there's a I guess there's a hierarchy here, right, So, but I don't think he should just be polite to the people you think are worthy of respects. You know, kind of comes off kind of mean and then you have this big, huge case now and then you people can.

00:47:34
Speaker 7: Kind of do that back to you.

00:47:36
Speaker 6: So, but if you don't care about likability with new people, if you don't care, then whatever, you know. I don't think she's I don't think when he's gonna lose any sleepover in my opinion or anyone else's. But it does like she was really in the mess this episode as well, like a lot, and I.

00:47:54
Speaker 7: Don't think it helps, Like I don't.

00:47:57
Speaker 6: I think she's too established and to accomplished and has her mark already made with this friends that she don't need to do all of that. And of course you want to get some fire from the ogs. We want that, but when it's like damn, it's like you're kind of in all of it, Like it's a lot of.

00:48:11
Speaker 7: Little fires you're in, and it's a I kind of.

00:48:14
Speaker 6: Was a little exhausted from this episode keeping up wait, okay, now you're mad at this wait now.

00:48:22
Speaker 7: Track of And that's why I took my soul on a while. I was like rewinding it, like wait, why why are you mad at this one? You're mad over here?

00:48:29
Speaker 6: Like to me, it's like the cartoons when you see someone balancing all the little spinning plates and you need like four more hands. I feel like that's what when he's like, and I feel like that's what it's like with Gazelle and and and Kiki.

00:48:43
Speaker 2: Kay, I'm sorry, I'm like.

00:48:45
Speaker 7: Just too many.

00:48:47
Speaker 6: Like when you have it with everyone, eventually it's gonna wear the audience out, you know what I mean. Like, it's understandable, Okay, you have an issue with this girl, but when it's with everyone, guess what it's gonna look like in the end of By the end of the season, is your the problem?

00:49:00
Speaker 5: Right?

00:49:01
Speaker 1: And that's what I thought too, because listen, as much as I go for Gaziel and I think she's the face of the show, what I will say is I think in Gizill's effort to make a great show, I think Gazelle went too far with.

00:49:17
Speaker 2: Her producing skills.

00:49:18
Speaker 1: Right when Stacey, When Stacey came to the house and there was no there was no card for her, the car had no words to it, her robe did not have her name on it. Those are things that I'm like, Look, while I appreciate Gazelle working and string the pot, it's those small moments that I do worry when it comes to Gazelle, Like, hey, these are the small things that is going to remove people appreciating your efforts into making a great show, because that, to me was so petty that it made her unlikable in that case, because the constant barrage on Sta is getting old and I don't like it, and I want them to pause because I don't want the B word that is with the G be attached to the show again, because I don't think that's what it is. I think they're trying to make a great show. But the problem is there's only one force multiplier. You can't have a lot of housewives with four kenyas. The reason why alant of Housewives work is because, like Claudia said, it wasn't one person juggling multiple balls.

00:50:34
Speaker 2: The beauty of the.

00:50:36
Speaker 1: Heyday of Atlanta was the fact that every girl played their role and they did it in a way when they all played hot Potato like oh it's your turn, I got it now.

00:50:48
Speaker 2: And what I'm watching this season.

00:50:50
Speaker 1: Is Giselle's only one working athlete clock athlete. They her job at the beginning of the season, but this trip, the sole reliance was on zel So Claude. But that being said, what are your thoughts on Gazelle not having you know, Stacy's name on the road not having a letter for her, and her excuse is, I don't know you.

00:51:12
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't know you.

00:51:14
Speaker 7: Well, you're better than that. I mean, you know the game long enough.

00:51:18
Speaker 6: You're a vet, and you're you've been highly entertaining this season, Like you don't need to do stuff like that. It's almost like they didn't realize how good the show was while they were doing it, so they were doing too much.

00:51:30
Speaker 2: You know, when you're.

00:51:31
Speaker 6: Cooking and you put enough spices in it, but you didn't taste your food, and then you go and dump a whole bunch more and now it's not good.

00:51:37
Speaker 7: You did too much. That's like the best, right, Like that's the best analogy and give like do.

00:51:43
Speaker 6: Y'all not realize while y'all were in it that the show is dope, Like it's the best one of all the franchises, I think, right, and like you don't have to do all that, Like you were just fine in the pocket without doing that. And in these shows, listen, you know, break the fourth wall hair sometimes you you know, with production, they you got to like do something nice for someone that you may not really rock with. I remember in the Philippines. I had to give page of the big room in real life. I didn't want to, but I did, right, I gave her a big room, right, Like to go out of your way to like leave someone's name off, you really had to go out of your way. And that's like if you want to fight the me and girl allegations, or maybe you don't care. I just think that Giselle had already popping with so many plates already that she didn't need.

00:52:30
Speaker 7: To do that.

00:52:30
Speaker 6: It was it was an unforced error. Is it the end of the world. No, we'll get over it. But I just was like, oh, that wasn't you didn't you didn't. At this point, we need to see more bad stuff from Stacy to justify this. If not, it seems like you're still making a big deal of some shit that happened a long time ago. Like if Stacy continue to do fucked up shit and we're like, oh, she did that, Oh I can see why you tit for tatted that, But I don't know what she did recently that would still want this.

00:52:58
Speaker 5: I agree it's over at this point.

00:53:01
Speaker 4: And I also thought it was nasty the way that Giselle said what she said to Stacy at the dinner table when they're in Nevis Nevis is Nevers or Nevis Nevis right, Davis, yeah, wherever, But we want to turn our gunifications on for y'all to tell us how to say. But I thought that it was kind of nasty the way that Gazelle brought that ship up at the table, or not brought it up, but responded whenever Stacey asked her about her name not being on the rod and her car being missing, and Jazelle like went there like well, yeah, because I don't know who the fuck you are, Like who are you?

00:53:40
Speaker 5: Girl?

00:53:40
Speaker 4: Like it was just like a straight up launch in and I was just like, wow, Okay, this is why they call her mean, you know what I'm saying. So, but this is the Housewives, and that's the sport of it all is watching them have these kind of conversations where people assume positions of whatever dominance or whatever in the conversation, just like, how yeah, actually having a great season at the beginning to me, uh, this episode, she got back on her wagon of having a great season because the way she made that play at the very end of the episode regarding Stacey and Chris Samuels, Ashley was looking at at Giselle talking to Stacy about that boyfriend ship, and they cut right to that confessional and as she was like in that pink fur or whatever it was, she by the.

00:54:24
Speaker 2: Way, by the way, donta her confessional.

00:54:29
Speaker 5: Black? The black black angular.

00:54:32
Speaker 6: Like top, her makeup and the hair with the bad she.

00:54:37
Speaker 7: Looks good.

00:54:39
Speaker 5: In them confessional.

00:54:40
Speaker 4: She looks great in her confessional, So shout out to her for that. But when she said in that confessional and she was like, oh, you think you're gonna bring up Gizell's day lunch, She's like, no, let's talk about your ship, and boom right there, Ashley launching that pivot.

00:54:54
Speaker 5: Like I heard that you Stacey was dating the x NFL player, did this somebody? We all know.

00:55:01
Speaker 4: She knew the right time to drop that Chris Samuel's bomb, and it made for great television, And that to me was her showcasing her tenure as a veteran housewife og at that franchise because she's been there since season one, so it's her tenth season.

00:55:16
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. These women know how to do this, So yeah, no, it was, it was.

00:55:21
Speaker 1: It was.

00:55:22
Speaker 2: It was a great listen.

00:55:24
Speaker 1: I agree with Claudia. I laughed a lot of this episode. I cringe a lot. I do agree with Claudia though it was.

00:55:32
Speaker 2: It was a little bit more.

00:55:38
Speaker 1: Cattiness that I wanted because it just it was like every frame it was like KK versus Jazzy Windy versus KK, Gazelle versus Stacey.

00:55:48
Speaker 2: That is just it was.

00:55:49
Speaker 7: It was a lot was exhausting.

00:55:52
Speaker 2: It was exhausting.

00:55:55
Speaker 7: You know what, I need a dream? Can I go get a drink?

00:56:02
Speaker 5: A lot of battles, it's a lot of battles. It's a lot of battles.

00:56:05
Speaker 2: Drag, Go get a drink, Go get a drink.

00:56:07
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Angel, you are a beautiful woman. You are like well, I love about Angel. Angel is very beautiful and I love the fact that she is a Kirby woman.

00:56:19
Speaker 2: I love the fact that sexy love.

00:56:21
Speaker 1: I see why she was cast as much as I love me some Angel, Angel, Baby, that ain't you?

00:56:28
Speaker 2: That picture looked more like what's the action that's on? This is us that played the wife, Yes, that played the wife of Sterling k Brown.

00:56:44
Speaker 6: Listen, now out of control. They they will tighten they will tighten up your jaw. I had when I had a conversation for a mid level Facebook.

00:56:53
Speaker 7: To kind of get the little neck together right, and it was they told me ninety three thousand. Then they were like, okay, seventy nine.

00:57:00
Speaker 6: And then it got down well they would like, you know, get the neck together, so tighten that up, which her photoshop tightened all that up like this, and then you know, maybe you get the little the flabby skin on the eyelids, but I get it. Nobody wants to go on a knife and do all that. But when you're about to go in reality show, listen, more eyeballs gonna be on you.

00:57:21
Speaker 7: Listen.

00:57:21
Speaker 6: I'll be fighting myself like Claudia, don't hit that next level on the young thing because you're gonna get clown like I'd be wanting to make myself look fourteen again too. But you've got to resist just a little bit. Let me give you really the Lenza app. Lenza has a couple of filters that are natural. They will brighten you up and they'll tighten up a little bit. But when you start having a super angular face and you got a round face or square dirl like.

00:57:48
Speaker 7: I do, they gone now and they'll make funny you look like.

00:57:51
Speaker 5: And then pictures Angel, she looked like Eva, Marcia's.

00:58:00
Speaker 7: Spy.

00:58:01
Speaker 5: Why you look like Eva? You know what I'm saying that you don't look like Eva? So I get it.

00:58:06
Speaker 4: But again, this is the funny, light hearted Housewives ship that we want to enjoy. I rather do with this other dark, darker subject maatics, I like it here, you know what I'm saying.

00:58:19
Speaker 5: And she edited.

00:58:21
Speaker 6: Let's be clear, it was not edited, you know, and be and be let's be fair. She is by far not the only one that does it.

00:58:32
Speaker 7: M There's other cartoon faces on the show as well.

00:58:35
Speaker 5: Mm hm.

00:58:37
Speaker 7: Anyway, anime figure, I.

00:58:43
Speaker 2: Know, I think, I think.

00:58:44
Speaker 1: Listen, every one of us is guilty of using a filter, but we gotta stop using the one to like Claudia said to where you look like you're in puberty, so that that would be you know, my only no.

00:58:57
Speaker 2: When it comes to back, I need to pull up that picture exactly.

00:59:06
Speaker 7: That.

00:59:10
Speaker 5: Look, why you look like that? You don't look like that? Why Angel.

00:59:17
Speaker 7: Model? It was with the spider Yo Chancela right, yeah, not me.

00:59:35
Speaker 5: Up again? Look Angel Angel looked like that.

00:59:42
Speaker 7: That's what I'm stinking you.

00:59:46
Speaker 1: Oh god, you got I gotta trend borl TikTok. Anyways, hey drop, that was the Tomac Good episode. Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimetz, and a partnership with the Lack Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube channel at the Carlos King Underscore