Season Three Preview

00:00:00
Speaker 1: Why don't you bring that up again? It was here your name? Hello, Hey Caitlin. Uh, it's a new world. We're sitting in your apartment six feet apart. Well, well, I would have done that anyway. You would have done that anyway we do.

00:00:30
Speaker 2: That's normal protocol for trying to be as far as a way as I can from you.

00:00:34
Speaker 1: But yeah, the podcast keeps us together. What can I say? Yeah, we are in a totally strange new world.

00:00:40
Speaker 3: However, we have spent the past week at Indian Wells talking with players, meeting players, players were stranded, and we got a season preview for now, a season that we don't know what's going to look like.

00:00:52
Speaker 1: But we had some interesting chats, don't you think we did.

00:00:55
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of players and everyone was in you know, Flox, and I was out there obviously with Sam Stozer coaching her, and so we corralled her into being our guests, one of our guest hosts to talk about the madness of what had just happened in Indian Miles, which was the cancelation of the tournament there and we didn't know therefore what was then going to happen?

00:01:18
Speaker 1: Like literally, Sam texted me and was like what do I do? And I'm like, I don't know, what do I do? Yeah? I mean so it was like.

00:01:25
Speaker 2: That every single player, coach, you know, physio, trainer.

00:01:30
Speaker 1: Everyone's like what do we do.

00:01:31
Speaker 3: At the moment that we talked to Sam, we knew that Indian Wells had been canceled, but we were waiting to hear what was going to happen to Miami, Charleston, you know, Mona Corolo and the rest of these tournaments. It now is obvious to us what the decision has been, which is that the ATP and the WTA are going to go on hiatus for the next couple of weeks, but.

00:01:49
Speaker 1: Probably a couple of weeks, like six weeks.

00:01:51
Speaker 2: I mean, we got the announcement that obviously Miami was canceled, Charleston was canceled. I cannot imagine Rome and Madrid happening. I really just I cannot see Rhyme happening. I mean, Italy is just you know, for all our town Italian listeners out there, like, yeah, you're with you, man, Yeah, how seriously with you? And I was so looking forward to I mean, on a selfish note, I was so looking forward to getting back to those tournaments with Sam and it looks like those aren't going to happen.

00:02:17
Speaker 1: So do you know, a long girls, what's gonna happen. It's hard to know, right, It's hard to know.

00:02:21
Speaker 4: You know.

00:02:21
Speaker 2: Obviously, if the virus is spreading around Europe, which you know, it's hard to contain in Europe. I mean, it's hard enough to contain in this country because everybody can drive everywhere or fly everywhere. Still, and in Italy you can drive to Switzerland, you can drive to France. I mean, it's you can get on a train and go somewhere. So I mean, obviously they're in a bit of a lockdown, but still, you know, there's a lot and we had an influx of a shit ton of people coming back from Europe into the United States yesterday. Yeah, I mean so, and they're stuck at O'Hare Airport like one foot from one another, all coming back from one of the worst places.

00:02:57
Speaker 1: So I mean, who knows.

00:02:57
Speaker 3: I imagine this won't get worse before it gets better, you know. And I think for us, the only thing we can do, there's no television tennis that we can watch unless we're watching old matches, which I'm happy to do. Obviously, we'll keep putting out copies of Racket magazine and we have these podcasts. We talked to all these players, starting with Sam, and we had her because there was no tennis for the first year but the future to kind of walk us through what had happened in the year to date, so we'll get to that. Sam is a great chatter. She's so funny, she's so open. She's obviously delightful. You've been telling me about her for years. It was really nice to spend time with her crack open a beer, which was what we were doing.

00:03:32
Speaker 2: We did because it is like, okay, well we're not doing anything for a while, you want to want to want a beer and she's like, sure, yea, because Sam never drinks when she's playing.

00:03:40
Speaker 1: But I just so everybody knows it was a Coronita. It was pretty small. I just thought it was really appropriate.

00:03:45
Speaker 3: We had a Cornita timely reference.

00:03:48
Speaker 1: We're all Corona beea.

00:03:49
Speaker 2: I mean people, I'll still buy You're not gonna get a fucking virus from Corona beer.

00:03:55
Speaker 1: Okay, So can we just get that across everybody. This episode was not sponsored by on a Beer, but.

00:04:00
Speaker 2: It could have been but if they wanted to sponsor us, well, I'm happy to take it because Renee loves her carnitas.

00:04:05
Speaker 3: We'll talk all right, without further ado. Enjoy this first episode with Sam Stoser. She talks about the season today.

00:04:11
Speaker 5: She's delightful.

00:04:12
Speaker 1: She's our stand in as a third guest.

00:04:13
Speaker 3: And then we'll be back in your ears every week with all these great interviews Renee got while we were at Indian Wells.

00:04:19
Speaker 1: People, welcome back.

00:04:35
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, here we are in Indian Wells, California, and we've been joined by a special guest who's also been on the podcast and who is a very popular guest, and it's our third wheel today.

00:04:47
Speaker 1: To start the season of season three of The Racket Magazine.

00:04:50
Speaker 5: Sam Stosa, Thanks doves. Yeah, you guys.

00:04:54
Speaker 3: We are in an unprecedented time. This is some weird shit that's going down. We are here at Indian Wells. All of us came out. You came to play, you came to coach, I came to media, and yet here we are in a hotel room.

00:05:05
Speaker 1: I'm having a beer. There's no tournament. We'll walk us through. For anybody who doesn't know what's going on.

00:05:11
Speaker 4: Well, we've been BMP has been canceled this year due to coronavirus, and it's kind of even more strange because everyone's still here. We're all still practicing, we're all doing our gym, seeing the physio well you know, people who need to So we're all still here doing it and no event to play. So it is really a strange feeling and all kind of feel a little stranded at the moment and not really knowing when to go or where to go and in this like holding pattern.

00:05:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the weirdest thing.

00:05:45
Speaker 2: Like, honestly, I don't think I Like I said, the night that it was canceled, I was with you, Caitlin. Sam emailed me and was just like, holy shit, they just cancel the tournament.

00:05:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean I knew something was up when it was taking three hours for the Quali draw to come out. Yeah. I was like, hey, this is something a bit strangey, yeah.

00:06:01
Speaker 2: Because normally that would be out quite early. And then there was the rumors going around that they were maybe going to cancel.

00:06:06
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way everyone's here.

00:06:08
Speaker 3: You remember, we heard because somebody knows somebody knows Riley Opolka, who knows John Isner and they were saying, we just got out of the player's counsel and they just they're canceling the tournament. This is about thirty minutes before the email. And I think I told you.

00:06:19
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, people are telling us, You're like, no fucking way, I mean, starting tomorrow, it's like crazy to even think of.

00:06:25
Speaker 2: But but you know, having said that, when it would happen, it was just the most crazy experience I think for everybody, coaches, players, like staff members, because every all of a sudden, everyone's like what do we do?

00:06:37
Speaker 1: Like literally, Sam.

00:06:38
Speaker 2: Texts me, She's like, I don't know what to do. I'm like, well, I don't know what to tell you because I don't know what to do. I mean, there's nothing that happens that's ever happened like this. And the only thing I can think of, and I've been out here thirty years is nine to eleven, you know, where we were like should we play?

00:06:53
Speaker 1: Nobody could travel anywhere for a week, so it was kind of like.

00:06:56
Speaker 2: That little bit of that what should we do kind of feeling where everyone was walking around.

00:07:01
Speaker 1: The first day I was in Hawaii, you know, at a tournament. That's a pretty good place well, it was not a bad place to get stuck.

00:07:07
Speaker 2: I mean, I've got to admit of other places I know, but but we were like we couldn't fly anywhere, and we're like, should we play the tournament? Like everyone was kind of a little bit, but this is different, This is like what and we still don't.

00:07:18
Speaker 1: Know what we're doing?

00:07:18
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you, because you know, so Sam, Like, see, we were at Wimbledon, right, and we get a speed of rain and everybody knows the grass takes forever to try and it's a couple of days. So like, is it that kind of feeling where you're like, well, we can't do anything, but we have to sort of stay fit.

00:07:31
Speaker 4: Not really, because I mean I guess everyone's now in that mindset of Okay, well we've got two weeks to prepare for Miami, so let's do what we can for that. But we don't know if Miami's going to happen. They're saying it's going to happen, but it could be you know, canceled any day between now and when it starts. So I think it's kind of more strange even save my scenario. After Miami, I'm meant to go to Charleston. Then I'm going to Buddha Pest for fed cup and then I'm going home to Australia. Yeah, if I if Miami's done, I'm going home to Australia. But that's fourteen hours from here. If I go to Florida, that's twenty four hours from there. So I'm kind of I don't want to fly to Florida to just turn around and fly back to double the distance to go home.

00:08:12
Speaker 2: And because we would have done that, I think, I don't know you answered this question as well, but I think the consensus for us would have been like, all right, let's just.

00:08:18
Speaker 1: Go to Florida and get us to the conditions because they're very different. In Florida.

00:08:21
Speaker 3: We brought us streets of her who we talked to yesterday, and we had her at the Racket House and we were doing some photos with her.

00:08:25
Speaker 1: She was already off. She just decided to go Accliment. But it's so different to Florida.

00:08:29
Speaker 5: But it's different, but she can go then onto Europe.

00:08:32
Speaker 4: It's not that bad. And if that was me, I would do that in a heartbeat as well, because that's like halfway home basically.

00:08:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean to be here.

00:08:40
Speaker 4: Everything's still like I said, set up, So that is just weird in itself. You can still get everything you need. So yeah, I kind of like, well, let's just wait a few more days. Obviously it's way worse, and then you decide then, but I've already had. Oh should I go into the Guadalajara tournament. No, maybe I will go home. Maybe I'll go play the Sixties in Canberra. Maybe I'll fly home and then come back, like you think of different actions, Well, let me ask.

00:09:05
Speaker 3: You this, like so, and this is the question really for you guys, because I think people who listen to the show don't have a sense of just how intense the logistics are the points they're staying fit, you know, how do you sort of what is the chief concern for you? Is it staying competitive in the points or just making sure you don't get rusty and so you need to get tournaments in? Like what is like the part of their calculation other than what we just talked about where you Well, I.

00:09:27
Speaker 4: Think that came very for player to play it depending where you're at. So like for me, I was playing these events and I feel like it's really important for me to play because of where my rankings at right now, and if Miami doesn't even singles or doubles ranking, and if I'm a final of Miami last year in doubles. So if I decide, okay, I'm just going to go home and play these sixties in singles, yeah, well I'm absolutely giving up any chance of keeping my doubles ranking up there. Whereas I'm thinking, if I stay and play Miami, at least I've got an opportunity to do that, and then you've got to weigh up priorities singles doubles.

00:10:01
Speaker 5: So that's where I'm like, feel a bit tricky.

00:10:05
Speaker 4: Whereas other players, maybe you know the other Aussie girls that are here, they're doubles rankings, they don't care whatever. They get into doubles one week, great if they don't whatever. So they're like, well, okay, we'd really like to play in Miami, but if we miss qualities in Miami and we go home and play in Australia, it's not a big deal. At least then we're home, we know what we're doing. So I think it really varies play to.

00:10:25
Speaker 1: Player varied for you throughout your career, Oh absolutely, and you have a.

00:10:28
Speaker 4: Different your career, and that's always you know, ebbs and flows depending where you're at. So again it's I mean, this is just filtering down from every person who can make money out of tennis, which is a lot of different.

00:10:41
Speaker 5: Groups of people ages.

00:10:43
Speaker 4: So it's not just plays, it's announcers, it's you know this city. Yeah, they've got no revenue now for what they were.

00:10:50
Speaker 2: Expecting, but two billion because you think about the tennis and could.

00:10:54
Speaker 4: Shower, Yeah, both of them is just gone.

00:10:57
Speaker 1: And so for them, it's an enormous amount of money.

00:10:59
Speaker 3: I mean, least what we're hearing is that they're going to bring back both Coachella and Indian Wells in October. Possibly knows that that ends up happening, but that would be fantastic.

00:11:08
Speaker 4: I think that would be the best out of this bad situation. If you can bring this tournament back somewhere around when we're in New York, that would be incredible. I don't think anyone would be against that.

00:11:19
Speaker 3: Hard cores, you're not acclimated to a different surface, and yeah, you know, yeah, But to your point, I mean, it's not just an answers.

00:11:25
Speaker 1: It's such as media, it's not just players, as such as.

00:11:27
Speaker 4: It's everyone's It's incredible how far an event can trickle down to people. And I mean there's just from a place with it. There's okay, you know, the top ten whatever, they'd be like, oh.

00:11:40
Speaker 5: You know, damn.

00:11:42
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it's not making a big difference to their years. Someone ranked fifty sixty one hundred qualifying.

00:11:49
Speaker 5: Like this is a really huge quit.

00:11:52
Speaker 4: It's costing money now to just be here, Like I know what these two weeks have just cost me on a whole.

00:11:59
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I need to play Miami.

00:12:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's just a fact on the expenses.

00:12:07
Speaker 4: So that's like tapes of people in this scenario.

00:12:10
Speaker 3: If it's okay, I want to shift to Australia because we want to do a little bit of recap about where we are on the year, and some of the.

00:12:14
Speaker 1: Mess matches well, considering where we.

00:12:16
Speaker 2: Are right now with the coronavirus and not knowing what's ahead, yes, we might.

00:12:20
Speaker 1: As well just look back.

00:12:21
Speaker 3: We might as well talk about what's happening here. This is our first episode of the year. You last heard from us last last fall. But moreover, there's a tie here, which is when I was watching Australia and the wildfires from the untouched city of New York, where I live.

00:12:37
Speaker 1: It was unfathomable to me that the tournament was going to go ahead.

00:12:41
Speaker 3: Days got closer to the tournament, the PAULI started people were collapsing, and I thought, oh, surely this means the one person collapse. Sure it wasn't. They weren't dropping like flies. But I'm just saying like it seemed from what the coverage of the wildfires generally was in the States, Australia was disappearing. Australia was disappearing, and the koalas we were, they're the ones.

00:13:00
Speaker 5: That is true.

00:13:01
Speaker 4: Yes, that's true.

00:13:03
Speaker 3: And so I thought, well, if they didn't cancel Australia, then surely they won't cancel Indian Wells over the Corona Vera.

00:13:09
Speaker 1: So it does, it does.

00:13:11
Speaker 3: It does make you wonder like what the sort of difference was and why they didn't cancel Australia. Obviously ended up being vane because you know, the air quality got better, But was that Did you think that at all when you guys were in Melbourne, like this is gonna you.

00:13:23
Speaker 4: For one second? Did I think the tournaments were going to be canceled. It wasn't in Melbourne. It was two or three hours drive from Melbourne, but it wasn't in Melbourne. It wasn't in the places that we were. And even though the equality was bad some days, on the whole it was actually totally fine.

00:13:40
Speaker 2: Melbourne is a metropolis, it's a city. It's it's not like where the bushwives were, where you know natural forest areas, natural parks, you know, tons of trees and.

00:13:51
Speaker 1: You know, very very rural areas. So it were incredibly dry.

00:13:54
Speaker 2: Whereas downtown Melbourne, downtown Sydney, none of them were ever at risk. Maybe a spot fire here and there, but nothing bad. But the only thing that was of concern was the air quality. And you know, the Austrain open went above and beyond to make sure and there was one day that was particularly awful as far as the particulate no, as far as the look, like the smoke was terrible in downtown Melbourne, but the fact because they had the winds turned, they blew the smoke into the city. But they were also doing tests to see if there were certain particles in the air, and if there were certain particles in the air, then they were going to stop and not play, but as soon as there was clearance on there are no of those particular particles in the air would cause health issues for players.

00:14:37
Speaker 4: And different states in Australia also have different regulations as far as their quality goes, and I think Victoria had the most lax one, So they got lucky there.

00:14:48
Speaker 1: That's a good point.

00:14:49
Speaker 3: You knew we would get a Civics last on in Australia a lot of things recently.

00:14:54
Speaker 2: I do know that one of the things that they probably would have done differently in a Melbourne is rather than play those matches in the daytime on that particular day, they would have played them at night.

00:15:04
Speaker 1: So the visibility, because the.

00:15:05
Speaker 2: Visibility would have been it still would have been hazy, but it wouldn't have looked as bad as it did. And that's really where it just it just it just visually looked bad. But as far as the health of the players, they that's where they said, no, the.

00:15:20
Speaker 1: Players were okay.

00:15:22
Speaker 2: So they got a lot of flack over it, but we got really lucky because we didn't have a lot of those winds that blew the I mean there was one.

00:15:29
Speaker 4: Day in December it was we were practicing. It were like jeezus, is terrible and you cut your practice a bit short and you think sensible about it, but it's kind of Yeah, there wasn't days and days and days.

00:15:42
Speaker 3: Like that, and you didn't feel as a player who were like sucking down.

00:15:46
Speaker 4: Well, that terrible day in Melbourne, we were actually in Hobart, so we escaped that day. But there was a day the following week where I was practicing and I said to you, I was like, I really feel like really gased today. And then we looked it up and it actually was worse air quality, So then it kind of made sense to me. I was like, have I lost my fitness in the last three days? But it does affect you. But we play all sorts of places, is probably.

00:16:11
Speaker 5: Going to be no better.

00:16:12
Speaker 2: Let me tell you we're play in China, and let me tell you the equality there is way worse.

00:16:17
Speaker 1: I got pneumonia when I look in China. Yeah, we've brought this up. It was rough. Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah.

00:16:24
Speaker 2: The worst thing is when we're at the tournament and we'd all be looking what's the weather today? And you look at the weather and then under the bottom will say should not be going outside in conditions like this and we're like, we're going to play a three hour tennis match.

00:16:35
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that counts, but we're kind of fucked. Yeah, so it definitely counts. Let's talk about the tennis.

00:16:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, that happened crazy Australia. We had one Brisbane, we had Alexandrova, shen Zan Serena on Iakland.

00:16:52
Speaker 1: That was nobys how that coming? Did you see that going? I thought she could win Auckland in the finals of Slam anytime. No.

00:17:01
Speaker 3: But what I really want to talk, especially because we have Sam here, is Ashberdy. She wins Adelaide obviously a favorite at home. Talk a little bit about that pressure of being world number one, having a Slam in your most recent calendar year to sort of back up with Slam number two.

00:17:18
Speaker 1: Did that change for you playing at home after you won your first What do.

00:17:21
Speaker 5: You think, Well, there's a whole It does change things.

00:17:24
Speaker 4: But she was a number one play for the country the year before as well, but then winning a Grand Slam definitely builds and builds and builds all the you know, expectation and attention on you for sure. So I mean, ordinarily I'd say if you win Adelaide and you make semis of your home Grand Slam in your home country.

00:17:43
Speaker 1: That's it.

00:17:44
Speaker 4: You're doing good starch they and it is a good start, absolutely for sure. So I don't think what happened to Ash over the summer was.

00:17:53
Speaker 5: You know about at all. That's result for sure now.

00:17:56
Speaker 4: But when you're number one in the world, anyone in the outside thinks that you should just win every single match you play. But in reality that does not happen unless you're no that Djokovic right.

00:18:05
Speaker 1: Now, which is he's still underfitted. He's going to be unfitted after any Wes to God, you're so smart because going to play a single match, this is what happens when you go to college. I want to go to college.

00:18:17
Speaker 3: No, but yes, Sveta was talking about this the other day. You know, it's just you you, Yeah, you can't.

00:18:22
Speaker 5: Win either way.

00:18:23
Speaker 4: You basically have to do what everyone's expected of you, or or you just exactly.

00:18:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially after Australian's fed cub so close last.

00:18:34
Speaker 1: Far, why don't you bring that up again? It was here as well, break. It was wonderful to watch you guys fart like lions. I'm sorry you didn't I'm sorry you came up short, not really, but but you know, there's well, let's just be honest. You were really happy for the French because.

00:18:49
Speaker 5: I had to have a fight with you.

00:18:51
Speaker 3: We did, I'm sorry with somebody who kick Ladenovitch.

00:18:55
Speaker 1: She was like her end Petka and I was like, fuck you guys, both of you. Well you was a prop. The next next day too, it was I'm sorry.

00:19:02
Speaker 2: And I hadn't slept because I'd watched it till nine in the morning all night, yes, because.

00:19:06
Speaker 1: I couldn't go to sleep because it went for nine hours.

00:19:09
Speaker 6: Well, now that I'm sitting here now, you're really sad for Australia.

00:19:13
Speaker 3: Well, I just feel like Australia has had so much glory, you know, yeah, but not.

00:19:17
Speaker 1: For a long time friendship on the Fed Cup.

00:19:20
Speaker 2: Way way sooner than what Australia had last year in the finals nineteen ninety three.

00:19:27
Speaker 4: Oh stop it.

00:19:28
Speaker 1: That's how old it's been. That's how long it's been you.

00:19:31
Speaker 2: I was song, no, no, I know, I was going way back. Liz Smiley, Nicole Bradkey, me and Michelle Jaggard I think was on that team. It was a long time ago. I'm sorry we played Spain on clay in the final.

00:19:46
Speaker 1: Good luck in where in Germany.

00:19:50
Speaker 2: We've beat Germany in the Semis and then we lost to Spain in the final with Conchita and Rancher, like we had any shows in the.

00:19:57
Speaker 1: Chance in that. But anyway, let's not basically, you have to pull for us next time. Okay. So I'm on here, I'm pulling for you now.

00:20:04
Speaker 3: I just want some of your old fed cup clothing so I can wear it when you guys, I've seen it.

00:20:08
Speaker 1: It's pretty ugly, if we're honest, your clothes very ugly.

00:20:11
Speaker 4: But we're lucky now we actually get women's fit track suits.

00:20:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to get men's ones.

00:20:15
Speaker 4: Get into us.

00:20:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to do my apartment. You can try it on when you get home. I've seen it. You asked me if I wanted to number twenty five? What number are you?

00:20:24
Speaker 4: Thirty six?

00:20:26
Speaker 2: It's the number of the Yeah, all.

00:20:31
Speaker 1: Right, So let's not talk about the year before, Okay, back to this year, back to the season.

00:20:38
Speaker 2: So ash she had a great Australia.

00:20:41
Speaker 1: I mean really she did.

00:20:42
Speaker 3: I mean people who we talked to said that they knew Kenon was going to win the tournament. I feel like that's the thing a lot of people say after the fact, But do you you know, were you watching that thinking like, oh, yeah, this is this girl's time has come.

00:20:52
Speaker 4: I thought Canon very likely could beat Ash in that match, because I'd watched Ash play a couple of her matches leading in to that, and she played well. And I mean, anyone who's making it to the Semis, you can't say they're playing poorly. Sure, but I didn't think she was probably playing well enough. And you know, Kenon, I just think was not as well known, even though she was still fourteen in the world or something, not as well known to people, so they kind of downplayed who she was. And yeah, she took it to Ash, and Ash had lots of opportunities and set points in both sets, but didn't do enough in those moments, whereas Kenan was like, this is my time can.

00:21:34
Speaker 3: Be Sara and Williams more than eight months ago on a Grand Slam like that, people don't have a real sense of contact.

00:21:40
Speaker 4: To play her, and she hadn't won a Slam, she hadn't done all those things, so all of a sudden she was like the complete underdog.

00:21:45
Speaker 2: I was definitely one of those people that jumped on the bandwagon when she played Coco and everyone was like thinking Coco and this was great, you know, And I said, let me tell you something, if there's one person that's not afraid to play Coco and take that pressure, because that was huge amounts of pressure for her, you know, to play someone a whole seven years younger than her from the same country. She's like, wait a second, I'm twenty one, Like I'm the new one, right, you know. I'm like, if anyone can handle the pressure and then run with it, it was Kenon because the you know, the crowds might not have known Kenon, but all of us on.

00:22:20
Speaker 4: The tour knew what she was about absolutely.

00:22:22
Speaker 2: And I mean Sam had to play her in you know, in Guangeou in the finals last year in China, and we saw her in moments that were tough and she could have like just given up.

00:22:34
Speaker 1: And she was up a set, not a brain, not.

00:22:39
Speaker 4: A break, but a set in five four she was serving, so it was close, ye, But then when she won that second set tie break, you just were like, She's she found another I.

00:22:49
Speaker 5: Didn't play poorly, she played.

00:22:51
Speaker 2: Well to win, but I think the underlying tone was It was that this is a kid that doesn't quit.

00:22:56
Speaker 1: And even when she could have quit, like she admires Sam, she was back to her.

00:23:00
Speaker 2: She lost to her the last time she played her, it probably wouldn't be mentally a bad loss for her emotionally, like she just refused to lose, you know, And you learn a lot about watching a young player in those moments. And I just thought, once Australia started, I'm like, if this kid gets a chance, she will take it. She will take it. And she got the chance. Will she do it again? I don't know, but if she gets a chance to do it again, she won't be a proberary. And that's what you love. I mean, even if you look at this train open that two our game was indicative of her being down Love forty, I believe to lose go down a break in the third set against a very good server in mcgruthor who's won two Grand Slams.

00:23:40
Speaker 4: I haven't been there before in that match.

00:23:43
Speaker 2: Not me can prior And I just said when she won that game that she hit what from Love forty she hit I believe four or five winners to win the game, Like that's the kid you want playing it's just like and then she throws the ball down and walks to a chair like come on, Yeah, she's not overwhelmed by anything. And that's what impressed me, and that's why I was so ready to put like the money on her to.

00:24:09
Speaker 1: Win that tournament. Did you put money? I'm not allowed to bet.

00:24:11
Speaker 2: On tennis, but if I was telling anyone, that's my girl, putting my money on her, she's and she's a great kid.

00:24:18
Speaker 1: Sure.

00:24:25
Speaker 3: Now that I've got to most of the players, it's really hard to root for against any of them. What I liked about Mugroots a lot, and she's had a very good year so far, is just it seems, you know, the ones that feel particularly resonant are when you see somebody with so much talent and so much ability and then they have a slump and they have you know, almost you know, a crisis in confidence. And you know, in my own tennis career brief as though it was, you know, you just understand how it's hard not to empathize. And when then when they're sort of back on the upswing, you're like, oh, what do you know about that?

00:24:51
Speaker 1: Sam? Yeah, and what do you talk about that? A little bit like you know.

00:24:53
Speaker 2: Talk about that a little bit, because I don't think people we talked about it was set Lana as well and her answers to certain things.

00:24:59
Speaker 1: And I'm interested to.

00:25:00
Speaker 2: Know, like how people at home have no idea. They see you, they see your career, they see what you've done, and they're like, hey, can you ever have a crisis of confidence in any time in your career? But it happens to everybody. It's kind of the one thing I do tell you the sam look down the other end. She may be feeling what you're feeling, you know, And it's hard to express to people that don't understand what it's like to have to put yourself on the line emotionally every.

00:25:24
Speaker 1: Single day to go and win a match. Like how difficult it.

00:25:27
Speaker 4: Is, Well, it is difficult because everything that we do it can be seen. And we have a bad day, people see it. Someone wants to have a bad day in the office, Well, no, one's really good to know you can slack off and it doesn't matter.

00:25:40
Speaker 5: And everyone's got an opinion about us as well.

00:25:43
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, it's just relentless and it's always there. And again, no matter where you're ranked, you feel it and because there's different things writing on results your whole career, and yeah, I mean I think that's just what it's the likes of a Serena and you know Roger, like all of them, who can win multiple slams throughout such a long period of time is incredible and it's I mean, people obviously have huge respect for those guys, but that's every single bit of it because it is to be able to sustain that for that period and other players too. Sure, I'll look at streets of her, she's had a fantastic career like that.

00:26:28
Speaker 3: What she's been out there for her whole career exactly grand slams and doubles.

00:26:33
Speaker 5: And it's not easy. But everyone has a problem.

00:26:36
Speaker 4: Everyone has probably had some sort of down slump and then made their way back. And I think sometimes making it on the way back is certainly isn't any easier because you know exactly what you need to do to get there, and then all of a sudden you've got like another bunch of eighteen year olds trying to figure it out, So it doesn't get any easier.

00:26:56
Speaker 3: Sobina was her favorite story of mine because of what we just talked about, Because of Killeman and Jerrold felt like she found some sort of new level. Is there any Are there any players like that for you, you know, outside of your own experience, in your own match, in your own head, in your own journey, where you look around and you're like, oh, wow, they're really having an interesting moment, are there?

00:27:14
Speaker 1: I wonder what is going on with them? Like do you kind of sure?

00:27:17
Speaker 4: I mean, you can pick up little things all the time, how they're talking to their coach, where, how they're playing, are they you know, entering tournaments, are they're going deep? You can just see it sometimes in the way people walk around and you're like, oh, geez, they're struggling at the moment, what the hell's up with them?

00:27:33
Speaker 5: Or you just don't know, and we.

00:27:35
Speaker 1: See them behind the scenes crying or you.

00:27:37
Speaker 4: Know, and everything that happens to us off the court too can greatly affect you on.

00:27:43
Speaker 5: And I mean.

00:27:46
Speaker 4: I had no idea that Ostapenko's father passed away earlier in the year, Like that's just something nobody ever wants to deal with, and unfortunately we all do it somestage. I had no idea, and you know, things as terrible as that can happen to someone, but yet you don't know until after the fact.

00:28:04
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give you an example.

00:28:05
Speaker 2: Like last year, ironically, at the US Open arena, Saberlenka won the doubles and I saw her in the locker room and we just had a nice conversation about some stuff. And actually it was prior to the conversation was prior to her winning the US.

00:28:20
Speaker 1: Open doubles, and she was just struggling in her singles.

00:28:24
Speaker 2: So she went through like the last six months of last year she really sucked, like for her standards what we thought was going to happen, Like she was maybe a game away from winning the US Open herself the year before, totally, that match with Osaka was the best match everybody, and she was playing unbeliever. Remember that summer, she was beating everybody, match points against her, beating everyone, and then she lost that match to us Osaka, and Osaka then wins the US Open. There's no there in my mind, if she'd won that match against As, there's no saying that she could have won the US.

00:28:55
Speaker 1: Open because she had that kind of ballsy attitude.

00:28:57
Speaker 2: She was new, and then she had this huge slump after that and really struggled last year like a lot because all of a sudden expectation right and I s bumped into it the USIPE and she was just like, oh, I just don't know, Like I'm just I don't know what I'm doing anymore.

00:29:12
Speaker 1: It just sucked, like she was just so down.

00:29:14
Speaker 4: In the dance like which it's also easy as a player to absolutely catestrophize what is going on because if you took a step back, of course you know it's not that bad, you.

00:29:24
Speaker 5: Know, in that moment it seems.

00:29:27
Speaker 3: But for Redom, I mean it was interesting better at that you must have. That's a skill I'm sure you've gotten, You've.

00:29:33
Speaker 5: Honned, yes, but nothing.

00:29:34
Speaker 4: You still need help from people around you to realize that.

00:29:37
Speaker 5: Like Stubsy's always telling me, come.

00:29:39
Speaker 4: On, you can still hit you know this and that exactly the same as you did and ye talk to your sports like and yeah, you know it's still sometimes you need those little reminders. But I think you kind of snap out a bit quicker and can see things a bit clearer faster. But it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

00:29:55
Speaker 1: It happens. Yeah, you just can get out of it.

00:29:58
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, just like it was about a four month period for her where she was not doing well, you know, and there are sophomore slumps.

00:30:07
Speaker 1: Sure, it happens to a lot of players. I can go into many, you.

00:30:11
Speaker 2: Know, like they had the year of their lives and Guini Bouchard and never to be seen again kind of thing, you know, and Sabilenka, I.

00:30:18
Speaker 1: Think one ended up winning a couple of autonoments at the end of the year. Want to see her and I say, I guess that didn't last so long. No, I know, I know, but but you know you and then she just won and now she's like, now she's totally back. Yeah, I mean you saw her how important it was because it felt like to your point, like oh shit, I can hit the ball again. Yeah I'm back. I'm not you know.

00:30:41
Speaker 2: It really takes like maybe winning one match where you're like, oh, I'm fine, what.

00:30:44
Speaker 1: Was I worried about? But it happens to everybody.

00:30:47
Speaker 2: So that's that's why the Arenas and the Rogers and Novaks, that's why the respect is there for them for such a because it's not about what they've done, it's the sustainability of what they've been able to do over ten fifteen.

00:31:00
Speaker 3: Absence of these slumps that we just it's just the absence of this trough in the level of just maintaining high.

00:31:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so well we got to go to the guys then in Australia and what Novak did and what he's now doing.

00:31:13
Speaker 3: Novak is still doing at least for the next ten days anyway.

00:31:18
Speaker 1: I mean, what he's done this before he went on a tear.

00:31:20
Speaker 3: What was it twenty maybe four years ago? Yeah, twenty thirteen maybe when he won Serbia one Davis Cup and then he like didn't lose a match.

00:31:29
Speaker 1: He was forty matches. Yeah, he was crazy, right, what's he on now?

00:31:33
Speaker 5: Twenty one?

00:31:34
Speaker 1: I don't know that sounded very specific. Let's go twenty one.

00:31:37
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll go on with twenty it's gonna be more. Yeah, that's a lot, let's just put it that way.

00:31:41
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems unbelievable that anybody can get in his way. I mean, the only people we've seen be able to sort of beat him on a stained basis are Nick Curios, who's never given him a set.

00:31:51
Speaker 1: It's just awesome. It's awesome that set, And like.

00:31:55
Speaker 3: Vavrinka, who's like the only person who's beating him in like slam finals in recent years.

00:31:59
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean I think that's right both places, like just kind of go for a tennis as well, go for a test.

00:32:05
Speaker 1: You gotta kind of go for it against him.

00:32:06
Speaker 2: You've gotta have Nick's got the serve obviously, and then he's got this the antics and all the change of pace.

00:32:12
Speaker 4: But if I don't be in a slam where almost impossible.

00:32:16
Speaker 2: No, But that's that's where the test is, right, it's the best of five, SAIDs You know, that's where we see where the men meet the boys and boys meet the men kind of thing. You know, I don't think that separate.

00:32:33
Speaker 1: Separates the men from the boys. Guys, we always don't meet the men. Listen, I went to school. Okay, this is like a bath house kind of vibe. No, we're not going there. When you went there, I did you went there. I did not go there.

00:32:44
Speaker 3: We had a name in the hammam last night and a lot of people, you know, we had everybody had their sweat on and we got a lot of secrets out.

00:32:48
Speaker 1: It was great. Oh my god.

00:32:49
Speaker 3: That's the kind of mentality, amen, Jesus.

00:32:52
Speaker 1: Kind of No.

00:32:54
Speaker 2: I just think it's phenomenal what he's been able to do, and he will definitely be the player with the most Grand slams by then of his career. Yeah, we just can't see him not winning five more Grand Slams, six more Grand Slams. Yeah, I mean he could win potentially for this year, and what's to say he's not going to win. Wimbled in the US Open again.

00:33:09
Speaker 1: I don't think the way anybody else is playing.

00:33:11
Speaker 4: Anthing's going to stop.

00:33:12
Speaker 1: It is the coronavirus.

00:33:13
Speaker 7: Yeah, we might not have a French op it all, but in this we might not. That's actually it's kind of bonkers.

00:33:20
Speaker 1: No, it's bananas. I'm ready.

00:33:22
Speaker 3: I was really really felt for a team. I love team. I think teams work ethic. I mean, he runs me with you, just relentless fitness, retrieval, defense and offense.

00:33:33
Speaker 1: Like his game is total. He can volley.

00:33:36
Speaker 3: He's not as accomplished a doubles player as you by several stretches of imagination, but you you just he's getting closer to these big three, but he's just not. Just something about maybe it's the level or the expectations.

00:33:49
Speaker 1: I was really sad.

00:33:50
Speaker 3: I thought maybe he had a chance, but then he just kind of fizzled the same way he had against the Doll on the last two. You know, French opens just not quite able to kind of get in there.

00:34:00
Speaker 1: Are we going to see another? Can anybody can team do it?

00:34:04
Speaker 2: I think if anyone's going to win a Slam outside of the top three, it'll be him.

00:34:08
Speaker 1: At the French I think is a chance of the.

00:34:10
Speaker 3: French Ruffa's got to be like like he's going to.

00:34:14
Speaker 4: Go against at the French though, yeah, nobody.

00:34:17
Speaker 5: I still wouldn't say teams.

00:34:19
Speaker 1: But that's that'll be a.

00:34:20
Speaker 3: Raf needs to have like a freak class to like benwell param my favorite player on the Minster and then.

00:34:25
Speaker 1: My god, you have to bring Ben war Pear into everything. Everything, It's everything.

00:34:30
Speaker 2: I want to know who the hell is going to win the next freaking Grand Slam for women?

00:34:33
Speaker 1: I mean, this is insane. How many have we had out of the last.

00:34:39
Speaker 3: Since the if you had to pick someone, since the Ostapenko frendship, and I think there's been a different Slam winner every slam?

00:34:46
Speaker 1: Is that right one too?

00:34:49
Speaker 6: You're right, that's the only double hallop is one, but we've had about six different onere kerb is one, three Grand Slams.

00:35:00
Speaker 3: Actually, I think sablencas Well, none of the French. Maybe Wimbledon, just because she's got that firepower on the serve and she's confident.

00:35:08
Speaker 1: I don't know.

00:35:09
Speaker 3: I mean, Canon, it's hard out to imagine show me another couple of Grandson finals.

00:35:12
Speaker 4: But I'm saying she could. But someone like Canon I think is far best surface is hardcore. But I mean she didn't make quarters or whatever of the French last year, so who knows. They're not saying she can't do it, but there's a few players out there that I think are better on all surfaces. Well, come on, who well, Sabs?

00:35:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sabs, is that what you around the tour?

00:35:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could give you a whole list of nicknames.

00:35:38
Speaker 1: That's what That's what we're going to do. That's what the people are here for.

00:35:41
Speaker 4: Okay, so he informed in Sabs, We don't know who's informed.

00:35:46
Speaker 5: Where's where's the where's the rankings?

00:35:48
Speaker 4: Here's well, you've got ash, she can play on every surface.

00:35:51
Speaker 5: You got someone who thought she couldn't play on clay.

00:35:52
Speaker 4: She wins the French Open.

00:35:54
Speaker 1: Well you didn't think you couldn't play on clay when you started either.

00:35:56
Speaker 4: Yeah. But I couldn't. I didn't win a match for five years. That was that wasn't just my thought, that was actually what was happening.

00:36:04
Speaker 1: By the results. What happened? Why? What happened? Did you start realizing that you had a kick server a Big four?

00:36:12
Speaker 4: I mean, she's not going into the French thinking she's going to win the French. Probably not.

00:36:16
Speaker 1: But you know who knows?

00:36:18
Speaker 4: No, no, well that's true. You never know, of course, you never know. But there's I don't know. I think there's a few players that are better on all round surfaces.

00:36:26
Speaker 5: Than put it that way. With what's coming up soon.

00:36:30
Speaker 3: Okay, so here's who's like the top ten who have won matches. This one terments this year sabs hallop pretends, pretends is dangerous services. She could call it pretend.

00:36:42
Speaker 5: I was like, who's pretense?

00:36:44
Speaker 1: I thought that was there's nothing the Dutch way of saying it.

00:36:48
Speaker 3: Well, you would know what's her? What's her nickname? So I don't have to make this mistake again. Kicks Kiki, but now we just call it by last night, that's a boring one.

00:36:56
Speaker 5: That's a kiki.

00:36:57
Speaker 4: We just call it kiki.

00:36:58
Speaker 3: Fine Caroline police cover hard to imagine her in a Grand Slam final, just because it hasn't seemed like an obvious choice.

00:37:05
Speaker 1: But she's still well, I mean, who won a tournament this year?

00:37:08
Speaker 2: Just saying I mean, look, there's there's three players that haven't won a Slam that should have possibly have already won the Carolina is one of them, Madison, Keys and Switzerlina. I mean, those three have proven themselves to win tournaments, have got two Grand Slam finals, and other than Switzerlina, but Switzerland's also a person that has.

00:37:29
Speaker 1: Won and she something tournaments. She won the championships not losing a set.

00:37:33
Speaker 4: But those who have been far more consistent than Madison.

00:37:36
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but Madison has also gone deep into I think Madison will be the first of those three to win a Slam.

00:37:41
Speaker 4: That's because she's got the most five power.

00:37:43
Speaker 3: Because when she's on, I feel like her level is higher. So Videlina is a counterpuncher at the end of the day. Now, I mean, yeah, she can outlast somebody, but I.

00:37:49
Speaker 2: Thought she's sound a lot like was and Hallette.

00:37:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, well but yeah, Helen shouldn't have a Slam, Let's be honest.

00:37:57
Speaker 4: No, I disagree, but I think with that game style you're a lot more reliant on discerning the feet of the match, which is why what happened, which is why you don't see many counterpunches win science.

00:38:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I will say this though about wasn't Yaki that year she won the Australian Open. She came off winning in Singapore which is w FAT finals, and was serving and playing and hitting her forehand.

00:38:22
Speaker 1: She played than usual, way better, like I was like, who is this player? All of a sudden, and then she.

00:38:27
Speaker 2: Went into Australia with that same mentality and it was only really she only got a little bit sort of pushy with her game, like her old style when push came to shove no pun was in the semis playing Mertens, which I think she felt like, oh fuck, I cannot lose this match, like you know, I mean, Les Murtons is a great player, but that's your opportunity, you know what I mean? And then to play Hallop finally playing somebody in a final they can't hit her off the court, and who hadn't won one, and who hadn't won one as well, So I mean.

00:38:56
Speaker 1: Was lost to help should have won the match. That was Halep's match to win. It was that's pretty what I said.

00:39:02
Speaker 3: I said what I said. I believe that you stick to it. We're gonna agree to disagree. But going back to your original point, please Giveawitzelina three players. I think Madison Keys. When's the first out of those three if they're if one of those is gonna win, the players is just gonna want to sign.

00:39:18
Speaker 7: I thin it's made for me because he's really like, it's it's mental with persona, it's mental. Like if she she gets tired.

00:39:27
Speaker 1: Sabs should have a slam. I mean she's also young, well, Sabs.

00:39:29
Speaker 7: I think she will get a slam.

00:39:32
Speaker 1: Her best slam will be the US Open. I think, yeah, you think so? Yeah.

00:39:36
Speaker 2: I think if she keeps playing the way she's playing right now, and she keeps healthy and mentally good US Open, she'll be dangerous.

00:39:43
Speaker 1: Okay, we talked about lament a little bit, and before we get back to that.

00:39:47
Speaker 3: Give me more nicknames, like there are any of them, Ramchy or the name of dirty, like you know, like she's whizz or I don't know. I'm just thinking like I don't know, I'm just thinking. I was like, do I want to go like dirty with us? And then I was like it's dirty, but it's not actually dirty. No, they're not like like mister Pickles.

00:40:03
Speaker 1: Like, does anybody get anything weird? Or is it just like a play on their name? We just don't.

00:40:07
Speaker 5: It's just play the name.

00:40:08
Speaker 3: So your Australians like to give people's just like what's your nickname?

00:40:15
Speaker 4: Sammy?

00:40:16
Speaker 1: Sammy stoves the stoves? Yeah, you like the bicypicyp I've never no one calls me.

00:40:27
Speaker 2: I've never called it, but I'm sure somebody somebody you like better.

00:40:34
Speaker 4: That's a really hard one.

00:40:35
Speaker 2: Actually, well we used to have, like you know, we have, We've had a few made or whatever.

00:40:41
Speaker 1: That's like Philip who was the Pooh the cock?

00:40:47
Speaker 2: I mean, you know it's the Greek Austrange they there there, they'll get their bad names, those ones.

00:40:52
Speaker 1: What has happened with the Cocknacus? Did he intreagues is he Ba? But he came back. He came back.

00:40:58
Speaker 3: He beat fed in Miami after that terrible leg injury and then he got.

00:41:05
Speaker 5: He's had his peck issue for a while.

00:41:07
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean he was training of preseason then, just before we were getting started with Drew. Yeah, I don't know, I mean, I don't think he's played since then. Yeah, I don't know.

00:41:17
Speaker 2: But can we talk about the fact that Roger Federer even finds a really good time to have this knee surgery when there's no tournaments going on?

00:41:23
Speaker 1: Maybe see created coronavirus. That's what we're saying.

00:41:27
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I think that's libel, but I think that is liable. And I am saying right now, Rogers, did not start.

00:41:34
Speaker 3: Your ranking points and your grandson Turtle, did you engineer coronavirus?

00:41:39
Speaker 1: But how?

00:41:40
Speaker 2: I mean, he's so smart he knows exactly when to have a little break.

00:41:44
Speaker 4: Okay, but so going on, I guess everyone's working out the ranking situation with how this.

00:41:50
Speaker 5: Normally he would get his.

00:41:51
Speaker 4: Zero point for this because he withdrew before the faith surely that's still going to count.

00:41:55
Speaker 1: No, but what did he do last year? Last year? He lost in the final thedominant team last years?

00:42:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, but regardless, because he wasn't playing it, just like Hellotte withdrew before it was so she'll get zero points. Well, this is I don't know, this is the question you're working because now nobody can play.

00:42:10
Speaker 5: Does that now not count that you withdrew before?

00:42:12
Speaker 3: I think that's true. I think it's no matter what, it's just what happened last year. That's that's what I was reading this morning. It was saying, no, no, no, no, we're not talking about that.

00:42:19
Speaker 1: We're talking about Yes, you will lose your points from last year. It's probably going to happen.

00:42:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, but that's across the boarder. But that's across the situation.

00:42:26
Speaker 2: Okay, But what we're saying is if you pull out of this tournament, because it's mandatory, sure, before the tournament starts, you get an additional you get a zero pointer on your ranking, which is not good.

00:42:35
Speaker 4: No, so you only get fifteen point fifteen tournaments six state of sixteen.

00:42:41
Speaker 1: Oh see okay, I see, I see.

00:42:44
Speaker 4: But now because there was just no tournament, what do they do?

00:42:47
Speaker 5: Does that zero so they count?

00:42:49
Speaker 1: What would you do? Well?

00:42:51
Speaker 5: I think it should still count. I think no intention of playing.

00:42:54
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think it should definitely count as a zero pointer even though it didn't go played.

00:42:58
Speaker 1: Because like Sam.

00:42:59
Speaker 5: Sit, it's fine. I don't know what the discussion is.

00:43:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know. That's the thing. I mean, this is so unprecedented. What's going on that?

00:43:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this was kind of when Monica got stabbed and came back, it was unprecedented, like what.

00:43:10
Speaker 1: Do we do? And everyone sat around trying to figure.

00:43:13
Speaker 2: Out what to do, how to approach the situation, and it would it never happened out.

00:43:18
Speaker 1: What we do is we put four armed guards on every quarter another match. That's what we do.

00:43:22
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, in the end, but in the rankings we were talking about at the time, So what are they going to do with this? Because this is unprecedented and we don't know and you are setting a precedent now for if this happens or i mean, nothing like this has ever happened since what the world was like really, like you know when you look at the boards at Wimbledon and it say it's nineteen forty oh.

00:43:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, no champion. Yeah.

00:43:42
Speaker 3: We were talking about this with the Olympics too, because there's a conversation about Japan about having the Olympics, and were you planning and planning the Olympic.

00:43:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're qualified, you can go right, well if it.

00:43:50
Speaker 4: Happens, yeah, I mean I'm trying to get there.

00:43:53
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only two times the Olympics have ever been canceled are nineteen forty and nineteen forty four. Like literally the same exact sort of. This is unprecedented.

00:44:02
Speaker 4: What's happening right now.

00:44:03
Speaker 3: It's amazing, which is why I think we should fill the rest of our podcast the remaining ministers with total speculation and say things.

00:44:09
Speaker 5: Like like I'm going to come.

00:44:13
Speaker 1: No one played the tournament, but I was there.

00:44:15
Speaker 3: I've never played a pro tournament, but maybe I could win Indian Wells just by being the only person at the courts.

00:44:19
Speaker 1: You know, you lived through the cycle. Anything is possible, you know what I'm saying.

00:44:25
Speaker 3: Okay, so maybe the tournaments get back on track by the French.

00:44:29
Speaker 5: Maybe I think Europe's in great doubt.

00:44:33
Speaker 1: Do you think you're totally you think Wimbledon included?

00:44:35
Speaker 5: You don't think Wimbledon.

00:44:36
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I mean I know people different closed.

00:44:39
Speaker 4: I just heard from a physio before I came here that he thinks that the Spanish board is about to be closed any day now. He said that they're like ten days behind Italy. So you got two big countries where we play, and then Monico is in between them, right, So that's Mona Corolo on the men's side.

00:44:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, what else we got we got?

00:44:57
Speaker 4: Well, France is in dire Straits. You're saying that you are gathering.

00:45:01
Speaker 2: Strasbourg, Madrid, s Pasburg, Stuttguard, prag America.

00:45:07
Speaker 4: You were going to go to Well that was fed Cup so but still is that?

00:45:11
Speaker 1: I mean the problem is when.

00:45:13
Speaker 5: Borders start closing, how do we get anywhere?

00:45:16
Speaker 1: Are you worrid about getting stuck here?

00:45:18
Speaker 4: Well? I would think as an Australian citizen, I can get home, I can get in, but you need to have flights operating.

00:45:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what if the state's closes down? I mean, what do we do? We drive? You drive to Australia.

00:45:32
Speaker 4: You driving me from Miami back to you so I can fly home.

00:45:36
Speaker 5: If there's no domestic life, I will drive you back.

00:45:42
Speaker 1: Sam.

00:45:42
Speaker 2: We will wants to go on a road trip, but we will rent a kick ass like o V.

00:45:48
Speaker 1: We'll make a week of it. Will be like on the wheel you get cheese ones in the back fry or whatever. I mean.

00:45:54
Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna say you're going to drive to Australia, and I was like, I don't want to have to be the one to tell you this, but you guys are from a from an island, Like, I don't know how that's going to happen we all live in.

00:46:08
Speaker 5: It might be the safest place.

00:46:09
Speaker 1: It might be the safest place well self quarantine.

00:46:11
Speaker 3: I think we should probably wrap this podcast up because we've completely lost the thought but anything else we want to know.

00:46:17
Speaker 2: I think that's the whole point. I think this is where we're at. I mean, we literally are sitting in our.

00:46:22
Speaker 1: Hotel in Indian Worlds, California.

00:46:26
Speaker 2: We have no idea what is next in the next couple of months.

00:46:31
Speaker 1: Wow, And you know it's it's crazy. I mean, this is everybody's livelihood.

00:46:36
Speaker 3: You know.

00:46:37
Speaker 2: It just doesn't affect the players, obviously affects them, and it affects players, coaches, It affects fitness trainers, it affects the w.

00:46:47
Speaker 1: Everyone.

00:46:47
Speaker 5: It just affects TV.

00:46:49
Speaker 2: All the people that you know, take the tickets from you when you're walk in like this is this.

00:46:54
Speaker 1: Is affecting a great deal of people.

00:46:55
Speaker 2: Announcers like you know, our friend Andrew Crasny who does all the on court sure announcing for Indian Wells and Miami and Charleston, Like that's a huge livelihood for him for six, you know, five weeks done.

00:47:08
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

00:47:08
Speaker 2: I mean, those are people's livelihoods, and you know, with tennis often we do in payment ways. You know, you get paid quite a lot in those weeks, and if those weeks are gone, you can't just make them up somewhere else.

00:47:22
Speaker 1: So this is yeah, well, this is a devastatingly unique time in.

00:47:29
Speaker 2: The world, but also for tennis, this isn't I think I'm going to make a call right now. I don't think any tournament will be played, Sam, I just said the same thing.

00:47:39
Speaker 1: I think you're right.

00:47:40
Speaker 2: I think the French is possible without fans because the TV rights are still quite big.

00:47:46
Speaker 5: On both ways.

00:47:47
Speaker 1: I'm saying the French will happen more likely not so much.

00:47:55
Speaker 3: Well, I know what people can do if they're really bored listen to podcast. They can read Racket magazine at the very least. I mean, there would be a shill, but you know, right.

00:48:07
Speaker 4: Hey, sam wis to write an article, Sam, No, I just wanted to read the magazine.

00:48:11
Speaker 5: I was going to write an article.

00:48:13
Speaker 1: All right, we're ending on that.

00:48:15
Speaker 5: I've got time now I can learn.

00:48:16
Speaker 1: Great, Yeah, she'll write something now we've had it. Okay. Thank you, Samantha, thank you, thank you, cheos W, thank you people. Thanks for coming back and joining us. We'll be back for more.

00:48:31
Speaker 3: And that's it for this episode of the Racket Magazine Podcast. Thanks for listening. Our host is Renee Stubbs. Our co host and producer is me Caitlin Thompson. Music by internationally renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong, thanks to Tim Or Jerry and then the team at ACAST. Find us at racketmag dot com, slash podcast, and subscribe to us at any of your favorite podcatchers