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<v Speaker 1>He'll be like a dummy bit. It's the internet. You're busy.
<v Speaker 1>Let's do this for October fourth, twenty twenty four. For
<v Speaker 1>the next hour or so, let me help you sort
<v Speaker 1>through the world of gaming on Game mess Mornings Live
<v Speaker 1>with Me Jeff Grubb, Today's Silent Hill two reviews are in?
<v Speaker 1>And did Bluebird blunder? And where are we on? The
<v Speaker 1>single player games are dead? Pendulum swing? But first please
<v Speaker 1>join me and welcoming today's co host, the Game Best Mornings.
<v Speaker 1>It's Jordan Middler. Everybody. Jordan, how are you doing.
<v Speaker 2>I'm very well. The anti tom Ita continues lurin me
<v Speaker 2>at Rain.
<v Speaker 1>We've undone him and he shall remain undone, and it
<v Speaker 1>took all our efforts. You can't see it. We have
<v Speaker 1>some witches chanting just off screen. They're doing great work,
<v Speaker 1>great work to keep him buried and done. And I
<v Speaker 1>believe he won't return next week, and so I won't
<v Speaker 1>regret saying any of this. That'll be great.
<v Speaker 2>How do you doing, Jordan? I'm good mind quiet week
<v Speaker 2>for me you might have seen, but apart from that,
<v Speaker 2>all good vetty beuzy video games do be happening. I'll
<v Speaker 2>be completing them. I'll be uploading the whole playthrough. It's
<v Speaker 2>been a great week. How are you?
<v Speaker 1>I'm great. It's like for Semi, what's he taught? Like,
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, that's stupid stuff on Twitter, which I
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people like that. If they're not
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, they hate here about this stuff. But also
<v Speaker 1>like I don't think about it when I'm as soon
<v Speaker 1>as I like close Twitter, it leaves the brain immediately.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people realize that. And then it's
<v Speaker 1>like oh yeah, and then these get on there and
<v Speaker 1>these goofballs are goofing it up, and it's just like
<v Speaker 1>kind of it's becoming fun to dunk on them again
<v Speaker 1>because they do just seem so lost and stupid. The
<v Speaker 1>whole thing this week is some idiot wants us to
<v Speaker 1>upload all our gameplay just to prove that we beat
<v Speaker 1>the game before they can read our review, which is
<v Speaker 1>strictly prohibited by almost every embargo I've ever read.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and just before you read might have you of
<v Speaker 2>that's one hundred dollars, RPG says I one hundred hours
<v Speaker 2>to watch me play through it, including the thirty five
<v Speaker 2>minute section where I'm deciding which spec to go with
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're going to really enjoy the actual minutia
<v Speaker 2>of playing through a video game. Look, here's the thing.
<v Speaker 2>These Twitter people and all this stuff is very stupid.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's worth noting for people on all sides
<v Speaker 2>that when this stuff happens to me, I send it
<v Speaker 2>to my friends and I send all the insults, and
<v Speaker 2>the best insults get sent into my friend group chat,
<v Speaker 2>and I go, that's a fucking belter.
<v Speaker 1>That's the good stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like it's it just doesn't affect real life. Twitter
<v Speaker 2>is not real life, okay.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's like, man, yeah, I we're doing an
<v Speaker 1>absurd job. You should be making fun of it. Of
<v Speaker 1>course you should.
<v Speaker 2>I'm a big.
<v Speaker 1>Video game journalist. What it is that, Yeah, let's do that.
<v Speaker 1>And so, yeah, I enjoy all the good The problem
<v Speaker 1>is most of them aren't very good at it. The
<v Speaker 1>insults aren't very good. But when you get those good ones,
<v Speaker 1>that's the really makes the whole thing worth it. How
<v Speaker 1>are you doing otherwise? It's uh, we are kind of
<v Speaker 1>like I did the thing I think this morning actually
<v Speaker 1>finally where it's like all those games I keep saying, well,
<v Speaker 1>I'll just play that before Game of the Year. And
<v Speaker 1>now it's like, oh no, I have We're running out
<v Speaker 1>of time. I got to start playing some of those
<v Speaker 1>games I keep putting off. Nine Souls is the one
<v Speaker 1>that like is at the top of my list because
<v Speaker 1>everyone says I would really like that. Everyone who has
<v Speaker 1>played it seems to really enjoy It's a Metroid Vena game,
<v Speaker 1>so I'm like, okay, I should just get that loaded
<v Speaker 1>up and actually play it. How are you feeling about,
<v Speaker 1>like keeping up on games and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm kind of and I'm having a mex and
<v Speaker 2>a blend. I think right as of four minutes ago,
<v Speaker 2>I can say I've been playing some of that the
<v Speaker 2>Apple expansion. That sounds pretty good. I'm been playing something
<v Speaker 2>else that lead about on Monday, the code for Silent
<v Speaker 2>Help played a little about that. It's just a little
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a sharkoutiny board to sounds. Vetti and told
<v Speaker 2>me about it. The main ones for the Nest of October.
<v Speaker 2>I believe that will be my part view will be
<v Speaker 2>called in dragon Age, so it's kind of just dragon
<v Speaker 2>Age will be an early called probably be end the
<v Speaker 2>day it comes out, so it's not too much of
<v Speaker 2>a crossover for Race yeah exactly.
<v Speaker 1>It's uh yeah, I guess, I guess it does help that.
<v Speaker 1>Like for the rest of the year, outside of Dragon Age,
<v Speaker 1>which I'm curious to try, there's not like a ton
<v Speaker 1>of stuff I feel like I have to play on obviously,
<v Speaker 1>like Brothership, I'm still gonna want to play, and we'll
<v Speaker 1>do some Mario party stuff, but I might have a
<v Speaker 1>chance to actually catch up here and there. Uh all right,
<v Speaker 1>let's explain what we do here most weekdays. I, Jeff Greb,
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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot to get into, so let's start
<v Speaker 1>the morning mess with Silent Hill. Two reviews are out.
<v Speaker 1>It's got I was doing like an eighty eight on
<v Speaker 1>Open Critic. I actually missed the Metacritic out probably around
<v Speaker 1>the same zone. Pretty good. That's a pretty high school.
<v Speaker 1>That's like I think people always do forget or just
<v Speaker 1>don't think about it, maybe the way I do. Getting
<v Speaker 1>an eighty eight very hard to do. Most games struggle
<v Speaker 1>to get up above that eighty five eighty six. So
<v Speaker 1>that's a very good score. Start here with Mark Delaney
<v Speaker 1>from GameSpot, who gave it a nine out of ten
<v Speaker 1>and says remaking one of the most revered horror games
<v Speaker 1>ever is no simple task, but Bluebird Team impressively rebottles,
<v Speaker 1>impressively rebottles the magic of the two thousand and one genre.
<v Speaker 1>Landmark Tristan o'gilvy at IgM gave it an eight out
<v Speaker 1>of ten and said Silent Hill two is a great
<v Speaker 1>way to visit or revisit one of the most dread
<v Speaker 1>inducing destinations in the history of survival horror. James Kennedy
<v Speaker 1>gave it a three point five star. I did not
<v Speaker 1>write down where they're from. I forget. Blueber Team's version
<v Speaker 1>of Silent Hill two often feels like a high fidelity
<v Speaker 1>version of the original, with remixed puzzle and item locations.
<v Speaker 1>The combat is reasonably satisfying. The Boston counters have been
<v Speaker 1>have been improved, but what is fundamentally a great horror
<v Speaker 1>game is partially undermined by the over the top sound design,
<v Speaker 1>injection of jump scares, and general lack of restraint. Chriscollian
<v Speaker 1>gives it a It gives it four stars over at
<v Speaker 1>VGC and says Silent Hill Too is a skillfully handled
<v Speaker 1>retelling of one of the medium's most loved survival horror games.
<v Speaker 1>It stays faithful to the original to a fault at times,
<v Speaker 1>but breese enough new life into into simultaneously ensure that
<v Speaker 1>longtime fans will appreciate the respect shown, while newcomers won't
<v Speaker 1>find it antiquated. Have you been playing this at all?
<v Speaker 1>I have not, Jan and Dan have. I've been missing
<v Speaker 1>out so far, but I will when it launches.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm about I'm about five hours and to at
<v Speaker 2>this point just kind of beyond where myself and Don
<v Speaker 2>played the preview a couple of months ago. It seems
<v Speaker 2>really good. As you see, eighty eight is higher than
<v Speaker 2>I would have expected, and I think I think I'm
<v Speaker 2>just about in line with Chris's review the kind of
<v Speaker 2>four star area, and it's it's basically I think it's
<v Speaker 2>a great reset for what Silent Hill fans would want,
<v Speaker 2>Like there's a bit of stability to the Silent Hill
<v Speaker 2>ship after so long of nothing, and it kind of
<v Speaker 2>reminds me of Metal your solid delta in a sense
<v Speaker 2>where it's like you don't want to take massive swings
<v Speaker 2>when you have no good will. This is get us
<v Speaker 2>back on solid ground and we'll see where we can
<v Speaker 2>go from here. And they seem to have done very well.
<v Speaker 2>And the Bluebird team, I think after speaking to them,
<v Speaker 2>I actually think they got quite an unfair rap because
<v Speaker 2>I said to them quite cheekily that I didn't mean
<v Speaker 2>it to come across so badly, but I was like,
<v Speaker 2>all the journalists can't believe how good this game is.
<v Speaker 2>And they were laughing, and they were like they seem
<v Speaker 2>to understand what their limitations are and they're trying to
<v Speaker 2>get better, which is great to hear, and they seem
<v Speaker 2>like a good bunch. So yeah, it's a I enjoyed it.
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't it doesn't quite hit that level of like
<v Speaker 2>the Razi four remake or the Razy two remake or
<v Speaker 2>anything like that, but it's in the conversation and I
<v Speaker 2>think after the sentiment around that game earlier this year.
<v Speaker 2>The fact that that's the case, it's a huge one
<v Speaker 2>for them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I you know, I always had expectations that they'd
<v Speaker 1>be able to make this one work. They could probably
<v Speaker 1>ignore the demons that maybe Bluebird carries sometimes that causes
<v Speaker 1>them to put a little too much into some of
<v Speaker 1>their own games that people dislike, and it's like, well,
<v Speaker 1>we could just work with the good stuff that's already here.
<v Speaker 1>And really, this, I've said this before, This is the
<v Speaker 1>ideal scenario scenario for Silent Hill fans where they could
<v Speaker 1>fret and be angry for months that Bluebird team was
<v Speaker 1>gonna mess up their favorite game, and then when the
<v Speaker 1>game comes out, they actually get to also enjoy Silent
<v Speaker 1>Hill two again. So they get the best of both
<v Speaker 1>worlds to hate this this game for a long time
<v Speaker 1>and then love it maybe once it's out. You know,
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it remains to be seen once it's
<v Speaker 1>in the wild. How the true you know, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the people who bleed Silent Hill, how they're gonna feel
<v Speaker 1>about it. But it seems like this is setting it
<v Speaker 1>up for the best chance for this to win. This
<v Speaker 1>when when that crew over and I'm always curious reading
<v Speaker 1>these reviews as well, it's like, what what do people
<v Speaker 1>want from a remake? Because me personally, when I you know,
<v Speaker 1>I think the Metroid Prime Remastered was fantastic, and then
<v Speaker 1>I think Shadow of the Clausus was one that's like
<v Speaker 1>a no. I feel like some of the magic was lost,
<v Speaker 1>and like the more eerie look of the original personally,
<v Speaker 1>and Links Awakening kind of same thing, Like I like
<v Speaker 1>the way it looks on the game Boy, and that's
<v Speaker 1>that style and this toy like diorama stuff. I think
<v Speaker 1>it's beautiful, but it's maybe not for me. It's everything's
<v Speaker 1>everyone comes in with their own preconceived notions, and I
<v Speaker 1>think we saw that even these small quotes I read
<v Speaker 1>like James Kennedy is like, you know, their game is
<v Speaker 1>partially undermined by the over the top sound design that
<v Speaker 1>like the and the injection of jump scares, so it's
<v Speaker 1>like new jump scares. It's kind of like not what
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for here, And then you know, Chris is like,
<v Speaker 1>yeah it, you know, those updates kind of make it
<v Speaker 1>help it avoid feeling antiquated. So I think it's gonna
<v Speaker 1>have to get out in the wild and let those real, real,
<v Speaker 1>big deal fans see how they feel, and I'm sure
<v Speaker 1>they will probably find a handful of things here and there,
<v Speaker 1>but I get the sense that overall most people are
<v Speaker 1>gonna come away from Silent Hill to very happy, and
<v Speaker 1>it feels like setting up that franchise for long term success.
<v Speaker 2>Again, I also think people who have no history of
<v Speaker 2>the Silent Hill franchise could just play this and not
<v Speaker 2>particularly feel like it's a PlayStation two game, and I
<v Speaker 2>think that's a great advantage, especially as the people who
<v Speaker 2>as we get further away from that era and the
<v Speaker 2>cachet that Silent Hell had is only felt with people
<v Speaker 2>that were around that time a time. Yeah, this is
<v Speaker 2>just a brand new triple A horder game. I think
<v Speaker 2>will go down very well with people. I get the
<v Speaker 2>sense that the Silent Hell community are obviously they've been
<v Speaker 2>hurt before kind of thing, but I think they can
<v Speaker 2>take solace in the fact that this comes out it's
<v Speaker 2>well received. Hopefully it does well commercially. In the question
<v Speaker 2>I have for you is, does the do you think
<v Speaker 2>the community wants another one of these from Blimber or
<v Speaker 2>does the community want Konami to say, Okay, Blibber, you
<v Speaker 2>can have the next new Silent Hell game.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I kind of hope they can work towards
<v Speaker 1>a world where they get the chance to do both.
<v Speaker 1>But the same thing probably right now is do another
<v Speaker 1>remake because you did really go with to Now take
<v Speaker 1>that and actually maybe increase the estimation of Silent Hell
<v Speaker 1>three and the rest of them up to this level,
<v Speaker 1>or get as close to this as you can with
<v Speaker 1>those other ones, so that we can have this baseline
<v Speaker 1>to work with and then maybe start on the side
<v Speaker 1>again work on what might be a new Silent Hell.
<v Speaker 1>Now you know what Silent Hell f stop or whatever
<v Speaker 1>it is Silent Hell. I don't know the one that's
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be Silent Hell five. I guess I'm not
<v Speaker 1>a fan of the series. I don't know they are
<v Speaker 1>making a new Silent Hill right, but I guess I
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's like supposed to be a full
<v Speaker 1>blown new sequel or sort of like maybe something kind
<v Speaker 1>of new.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting. I'm really interested to see the Silent
<v Speaker 2>Hill game from No Code, who are developer based in Glasgow.
<v Speaker 2>They previously did Observation, which I thought was excellent, and
<v Speaker 2>I like really like this new Kanami era of just
<v Speaker 2>letting people do what they want with the properties, not
<v Speaker 2>entirely what they want, but as VGC reportedly years and
<v Speaker 2>years ago, this was an initiative for metal Gear Hill
<v Speaker 2>and ca you line.
<v Speaker 1>Sex as shit. Sorry that came from the deep.
<v Speaker 2>It's right there with the Day's Gun remastered as and
<v Speaker 2>it'll come out something. But yeah, I think that. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I'm very happy with how they're going with metal Gear,
<v Speaker 2>and that's a series that's important with me. Fucking Johnny
<v Speaker 2>metal Gear mister Riker seemed very happy with how it's going.
<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy with it.
<v Speaker 2>They seem to have had a bit of humility in
<v Speaker 2>the sense that they're like, we can't really do these anymore.
<v Speaker 2>We have some of the people that can stow help,
<v Speaker 2>like some of their original metal Gear team is stough
<v Speaker 2>and purchasing this remake. But I think it's a it's
<v Speaker 2>a good sign. I can only assume that most developers
<v Speaker 2>looked at the last ten years of copcomon went oh.
<v Speaker 1>One million percent, yes, and it's like it already worked
<v Speaker 1>for Konami, where you know, before the metal Gear solid collection,
<v Speaker 1>like Konami makes a lot of money. They do pretty
<v Speaker 1>well as a company, but when you looked at the growth,
<v Speaker 1>which is what these companies really care about. And we've
<v Speaker 1>talked about this before everybody, so if you've heard this before,
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. But they were looking at the growth and
<v Speaker 1>be like, e Capcom's grown real fast and we're just not.
<v Speaker 1>And then they put out the Metal Gear Solid collection
<v Speaker 1>and instantly they're like, whoa, we kind of have Capcom
<v Speaker 1>like growth here immediately from just the collection. So I
<v Speaker 1>think that is a very encouraging thing from their point
<v Speaker 1>of view. So expect them to kind of keep going
<v Speaker 1>down this path. Yeah, and as long as they are
<v Speaker 1>choosing the right place partners, are making the right investments,
<v Speaker 1>are not rushing anything, sort of have a good technical baseline.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the advantage Capcom continues to have is
<v Speaker 1>the reach for the Moon Engine is so good that
<v Speaker 1>they and they know how to use it so well
<v Speaker 1>and it's so versatile that they are able to like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>now we're adding open world stuff to this and that's
<v Speaker 1>going to be the next three games from this engine.
<v Speaker 1>That's a huge advantage, of course, but that is not
<v Speaker 1>like the reason everything works at Capcom. The reason works
<v Speaker 1>because they are picking the right franchises and making good games,
<v Speaker 1>and Konami has now been able to do this, and
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to reap the exact same rewards
<v Speaker 1>the Capcom has been getting. So yeah, I think they
<v Speaker 1>do make new Silent Hill games going forward. They've alread
<v Speaker 1>announced the one I think beyond that, keeping Blueber's sort
<v Speaker 1>of in their orbit now at this point, now that
<v Speaker 1>like the Silent Hill has maybe found its footing and
<v Speaker 1>Blueber's found its footing with Solent Hill, I don't think
<v Speaker 1>either side's going to want to give that up necessarily now.
<v Speaker 1>That's as long as Konami remains pleasant to work with,
<v Speaker 1>which is just historically not always been the case. So
<v Speaker 1>I think we have to wait and see. Is this
<v Speaker 1>period that they're in that I agree with you. I
<v Speaker 1>think this is a nice period for Konami, But is
<v Speaker 1>it an exception and they backslide and they become the
<v Speaker 1>weird secretive company that they were before again? So we'll see.
<v Speaker 2>Well, they still did that ridiculous thing where people's email
<v Speaker 2>addresses are just a scramble of they do you still
<v Speaker 2>do that?
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that, man, that's nuts. That's got That
<v Speaker 1>was like an early thing I discovered in this and
<v Speaker 1>I'm like this person email man. That's another I could
<v Speaker 1>tell this is a different random set of numbers, and
<v Speaker 1>I looked into it trying like can I find someone
<v Speaker 1>at Konami specifically, It's like, nope, it is a random
<v Speaker 1>number system for their email address. Bonker's company. All right.
<v Speaker 1>The Legend Zuelda Echoes of Wisdom has strong launch in Japan.
<v Speaker 1>This is from gamed Data Library on Twitter tracks these
<v Speaker 1>things and kind of puts out Excel sheets every once
<v Speaker 1>in a while. Retail launch sales of the Legend of
<v Speaker 1>Zelda Echoes of Wisdom in Japan are forty percent higher
<v Speaker 1>than Links Awakening remake. With digital it should be above
<v Speaker 1>a Link between Worlds and be the third biggest launch
<v Speaker 1>for a two D Zelda in thirty years, after the
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo DS games. Although so it's all two hundred thousand
<v Speaker 1>copies in Japan in its first week. That puts it
<v Speaker 1>ahead of Links Awakening, which was one hundred and forty
<v Speaker 1>one thousand, and then if you uh, let's see, like
<v Speaker 1>the DS games, the Spirit Tracks was three hundred and
<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand, Phantom Hourglass was two hundred and eighty eight thousand,
<v Speaker 1>So that's eighty eight thousand more for like spirit tracks.
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised if, like with digital, it's actually
<v Speaker 1>like an extra hundred thousand copies, uh like fifty seventy
<v Speaker 1>five percent twenty five percent for a Nintendo Switch game
<v Speaker 1>in Japan. That doesn't sound or I'd be a sorry,
<v Speaker 1>sixty six percent thirty three percent. That seems very possible.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, this could be one of the best selling
<v Speaker 1>two D Zelda games or fastest selling two d's Zelo
<v Speaker 1>games in Japan so far, and hey, good for it.
<v Speaker 2>I've been years unto that console. Like if they hadn't see,
<v Speaker 2>if they hadn't already said they were going to this
<v Speaker 2>sweat too in the next financial year, I would want
<v Speaker 2>stories like this what make me think of they're going
<v Speaker 2>to get another yet out of the Switch. I'm just
<v Speaker 2>gonna keep doing this over and over again and it's
<v Speaker 2>still gonna be like yep, so massively.
<v Speaker 1>We're in that right because this was like the game
<v Speaker 1>was the system kind of does feel like maybe it
<v Speaker 1>actually was supposed to come out this holiday and they've
<v Speaker 1>sort of just kind of moved everything out a couple
<v Speaker 1>of months, a couple of weeks here and there to
<v Speaker 1>fill in that space, and uh, I mean yeah, when
<v Speaker 1>I see this stuff, I agree, it feels like they
<v Speaker 1>if they wanted to, they could make that same decision
<v Speaker 1>yet again. And yeah, but hey, a switch to in
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, like I think.
<v Speaker 2>A comparmed don't.
<v Speaker 1>God, No, I think a few years back it was
<v Speaker 1>like that is actually probably what's gonna happen, because it's
<v Speaker 1>the system just has so much momentum, and here we
<v Speaker 1>are witnessing that over and over now in terms of
<v Speaker 1>hardware sales. Clearly sputtering to a certain degree, but sputtering
<v Speaker 1>a relative to the switch and nothing else, like, not
<v Speaker 1>relative to any other console ever in a lot of ways.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think I'm still playing this game. This
<v Speaker 1>is the game I'm playing the most right now. Continue
<v Speaker 1>to fall in love with it more and more as
<v Speaker 1>I play. I think it does have a rough start,
<v Speaker 1>but as I kept playing it is when I started
<v Speaker 1>just exploring on my own and not necessarily just going
<v Speaker 1>waypoint to waypoint, it turns into a really different game
<v Speaker 1>where I'm just trying a bunch of dumb shit and
<v Speaker 1>almost all of it works and makes the game break
<v Speaker 1>in fun ways.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Andy wasn't mega hot on it yeah one of you. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>he was one of the lower ones. But it's then
<v Speaker 2>trying to I just I like open word with Zelda.
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a great affinity for Zelda as a
<v Speaker 2>franchise or anything like that. Like these little side games
<v Speaker 2>don't do much for me. I like him. I like
<v Speaker 2>I'll play the big main titles because it almost feels
<v Speaker 2>like you need to to be in this space, like
<v Speaker 2>their the Marquee releases, like it feels like they're these
<v Speaker 2>important kind of games of record almost. But it's cool
<v Speaker 2>to see that them making the swing to have you
<v Speaker 2>played as Zelda has gone down well with folk because
<v Speaker 2>it would have been a shame for them to do this.
<v Speaker 2>And then it come out, come out and.
<v Speaker 1>Be right at Super Princess Peach game right where it's
<v Speaker 1>like what is this? And that was like a bummer
<v Speaker 1>because people been like, wow, we get to play his
<v Speaker 1>Peach for the first time ever and that comes down
<v Speaker 1>it's like and it's like the powers are she cries
<v Speaker 1>a lot because she's emotional, and uh, for as awkward
<v Speaker 1>as that is, it was like it was at least
<v Speaker 1>it was different. But then the game just wasn't very fun. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I I I think that this game is probably worth
<v Speaker 1>like looking into on like TikTok or something from your
<v Speaker 1>point of view then, because just seeing all the weird
<v Speaker 1>stuff people have been doing. Yeah, the fun thing I've
<v Speaker 1>talked about this on the podcast last night, but the
<v Speaker 1>new meta now is you get a water block, you
<v Speaker 1>spun it anywhere, then you use the bind ability to
<v Speaker 1>grab the enemy and you just drag them in the
<v Speaker 1>water block and they drown instantly, and you can just
<v Speaker 1>basically kill anything in a second. It's it's a lot
<v Speaker 1>of fun and the and getting the the like the fish,
<v Speaker 1>the dead fish, and having a bird and buying yourself
<v Speaker 1>with the bird and holding the fish, and then the
<v Speaker 1>bird chases the fish and so you get you start
<v Speaker 1>flying and you can fly across the entire map. Once
<v Speaker 1>I started doing that, it's like, Man, this game it
<v Speaker 1>just feels like, Oh, it's gonna let me do whatever
<v Speaker 1>I want, like these recent Zelda games, and not necessarily
<v Speaker 1>like any other Zelda game before those. So very cool game.
<v Speaker 2>One of the best experiences I had and Tiers of
<v Speaker 2>the Kingdom was before the game came out and Nintendo
<v Speaker 2>got all the journalists to like this little event and
<v Speaker 2>they had switches set up for us to capture the
<v Speaker 2>game and really opening a couple of hours of all
<v Speaker 2>the TVs being next to each other and you just
<v Speaker 2>look over your shoulder and be like, what's he made?
<v Speaker 2>How is he doing that? Like? How's he suddenly got
<v Speaker 2>like a motorbike that can fly? And I loved it
<v Speaker 2>and those kind of mysterious circumstances for me. As soon
<v Speaker 2>as it goes on Twitter and people have built like transformers,
<v Speaker 2>it loses it for me. It's like, I'm not going
<v Speaker 2>to do that. I'm no interest in that. Just show
<v Speaker 2>me like the thing in Tiers of the Kingdom when
<v Speaker 2>it's like three elements make like this perfect jet bike
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, Okay, that's what I wanted to see,
<v Speaker 2>not any of this other crab.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah totally, and that's the perfect jet bike. Is like, man,
<v Speaker 1>this is actually useful. I'm gonna kind of break this
<v Speaker 1>game that way. Yeah, a lot of similar stuff and
<v Speaker 1>how I've played it so far, so I really the
<v Speaker 1>game click for me when I realized that the like
<v Speaker 1>the big mountains between like one area or the other
<v Speaker 1>that you've had in previous Zelda games, you can climb
<v Speaker 1>on top of those and just take shortcuts into the
<v Speaker 1>other areas. And that just felt like, you know, it's
<v Speaker 1>ingreened in my brain from playing those old Zelda games
<v Speaker 1>that those are just you just don't interact with those,
<v Speaker 1>those are nothing. So kind of feeling like I am
<v Speaker 1>now playing in the margins a little bit was like,
<v Speaker 1>oh god, this opens things up, and I just feel
<v Speaker 1>like I'm doing something I'm not supposed to be. And
<v Speaker 1>if you want to get me excited about a game,
<v Speaker 1>make me as a player, feel like I'm doing something
<v Speaker 1>I'm not supposed to be because they're like, oh, I'm
<v Speaker 1>a I'm a mischievous little guy. Yeah, it's a good
<v Speaker 1>time for me. I They're gonna keep doing this with
<v Speaker 1>Zelda though, right where take a lot of time making
<v Speaker 1>the big marquees Zelda that that everyone can't ignore, even
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have a lot of love result. It's like, nope,
<v Speaker 1>everyone has to pay attention to this. That's obviously happening,
<v Speaker 1>of course, But then doing these side games, these other
<v Speaker 1>the two D games, stuff that feel a little bit
<v Speaker 1>different when maybe they're taking other kinds of risks. There's
<v Speaker 1>no reason not to do this because this seems like
<v Speaker 1>it was probably affordable to make work works with a
<v Speaker 1>team that has already had success, and it's kind of
<v Speaker 1>fills in a gap for this franchise and for the
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo's lineup right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really enjoy it. I like that both Madu
<v Speaker 2>and Zelda can have this multi pronged approach where there's
<v Speaker 2>always something going on but is kind of endcapped by
<v Speaker 2>these big traditional experiences. Is something that I would love
<v Speaker 2>for my dearly beloved Pokemon. Pokemon Company is much more
<v Speaker 2>hesitant to explore those kind of things. They had a
<v Speaker 2>while and like the GameCube GBA when it was like
<v Speaker 2>there was very few mainline games and it was just
<v Speaker 2>game games. Yeah, but they have in recent years very
<v Speaker 2>much kind of disavowed not only doing that, but some
<v Speaker 2>of those games, like the GameCube games xd Gala Darkness
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. I think it was Masuda San
<v Speaker 2>was asked about a remake of something like that and
<v Speaker 2>he just laughed because it's like, it's not one of
<v Speaker 2>their games. It's not the Pokemon Company. Like. It's it's
<v Speaker 2>very it's very buttoned up. I liked the new Pokemon
<v Speaker 2>Snap was nice. It's also the best looking Pokemon game
<v Speaker 2>ever because it was not made by game Preak and
<v Speaker 2>things like poking are cool, but I would love like
<v Speaker 2>a Pokemon style experience that isn't a fighting game, or
<v Speaker 2>isn't a big genre change that isn't the kind of
<v Speaker 2>traditional generational RPGs. Yep I Pokemon with a gun? Good question,
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon with guns it's never been tried before to Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I was.
<v Speaker 1>Even in a hold that he doesn't it seem like
<v Speaker 1>he has damned the Pikachu. This morning, dropping hit off
<v Speaker 1>at school, she talked about how she wants a Pikachu
<v Speaker 1>squish mellow. She has not played Pokemon, but then she goes,
<v Speaker 1>I want to play Pokemon now, Jordan, what do I
<v Speaker 1>do here? I'll tell you. My hunch is, let's go
<v Speaker 1>Evie or let's go Pikachu. I think that seems like
<v Speaker 1>the right move. Also, she is really kind of getting
<v Speaker 1>the hang of reading, so I'm like, oh, this could
<v Speaker 1>be a good chance to like like speed up that
<v Speaker 1>process as well. Is that the right moves? There may
<v Speaker 1>be a different way to go.
<v Speaker 2>You've absolutely nailed it in one, so let's go Pika.
<v Speaker 2>Let's go Pikachu is the one to do it. I'll
<v Speaker 2>introduce her to the original one to fifty one, which
<v Speaker 2>is still the group of Pokemon. The merchandise the hardest,
<v Speaker 2>So all the ones that she's probably seen and toys
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that are all in that game. And
<v Speaker 2>I do you have the version of it that has
<v Speaker 2>the poke ball controller? No, that came out at the start. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>well if if you can come across one of those,
<v Speaker 2>those are those are great fun. But even just the
<v Speaker 2>base game, it's she'll probably find it more interesting because
<v Speaker 2>you physically, like you move your hand to throw the
<v Speaker 2>ball if you want, so you don't have to do
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. But yes, let us go as
<v Speaker 2>a great starting point, and then you start getting her
<v Speaker 2>into the merch including my Vincent Van Go Pikachu here,
<v Speaker 2>which I would have stabbed the man to get, but
<v Speaker 2>thankfully I just caught one of the restocks on the
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon Center and didn't.
<v Speaker 1>Have to like attack hurt anybody. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, let's let's go as a great start
<v Speaker 2>on the reading thing. I know the original Red and
<v Speaker 2>Blue were huge for like a lot of young people
<v Speaker 2>with game boys, learning words that they didn't know, things
<v Speaker 2>like that. So yeah, I think that's a a very
<v Speaker 2>great shout get into the trading cards. That's what you need,
<v Speaker 2>a trading card.
<v Speaker 1>Dirty filthy mouth. You keep me out of that. I
<v Speaker 1>don't want to deal with that. I'll get her the
<v Speaker 1>squish mellow. I don't give a ship, but I'm not
<v Speaker 1>bringing those cards into this home. It's a Christian home.
<v Speaker 1>It's not actually all right. Ubisoft's effort to save Star
<v Speaker 1>Wars Outlaws continues with huge patch. This is in Blair
<v Speaker 1>marnellit game spot. Ubisoft hasn't been shy about admitting that
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars Outlaws didn't have the strong launch that the
<v Speaker 1>company was hoping for. Some reports have stated that Star
<v Speaker 1>Wars Outlaws only sold one million copies to date. Regardless,
<v Speaker 1>Ubisoft has it abandoned its efforts to improve the game,
<v Speaker 1>and the latest patch may go a long way towards
<v Speaker 1>fixing many of the game's issues. The new Star Wars
<v Speaker 1>Outlaws title Update two is out now for PlayStation five,
<v Speaker 1>Xbox Series XS, and PC via the official Ubisoft site.
<v Speaker 1>Some of the most notable changes are elements like the
<v Speaker 1>number of MPCs, the mbcs and their patrols to have
<v Speaker 1>also been modified. Nice skip a sentence. Yeah. Some of
<v Speaker 1>the most notable changes are related to outlaw stealth sequences.
<v Speaker 1>There we Go. AI detection has been tweaked, and other
<v Speaker 1>elements like the number of MPCs and their patrols have
<v Speaker 1>also been modified. The speeder experience has also changed to
<v Speaker 1>improve the camera position, and the collision was reduced to
<v Speaker 1>keep players from being knocked off their speeders so easily
<v Speaker 1>like that. Actually, that was a good time. It was
<v Speaker 1>funny every time she would just completely eat it, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm like that, she should be dead, her guts should
<v Speaker 1>be liquid the way she just stopped like that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm continue to be someone who is enjoying this game
<v Speaker 1>for the vibes, for the Star Wars news, for the
<v Speaker 1>little dioramas at every little corner, just like little scenes,
<v Speaker 1>and it makes it very easy for me, maybe having
<v Speaker 1>a Colorado night, to lose myself in the game and
<v Speaker 1>not care so much about what's having me do. Like
<v Speaker 1>I'm not so worried about the verbs, but they want
<v Speaker 1>to keep improving it. I'm not complaining. I would like
<v Speaker 1>to enjoy it more than I'm enjoying it. So sounds good.
<v Speaker 1>I get the sense that they feel like they really
<v Speaker 1>got to get this one in a good place, Like
<v Speaker 1>they there's not a lot of other options for them.
<v Speaker 1>Is that how you feel.
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember a time where a major publisher so
<v Speaker 2>quickly lost confidence, and not just the game, like the
<v Speaker 2>internals of the game like this feels like a kind
<v Speaker 2>of I'm sure there are other examples, but the fact
<v Speaker 2>that they're constantly putting out these messes being like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>some of the core gameplay is good, like we didn't
<v Speaker 2>catch this before, but now everyone's telling us that it's
<v Speaker 2>not great, and it's very, very strange, And I feel
<v Speaker 2>quite bad for Outlaws that it seems to have just
<v Speaker 2>been this lightning rod for Ubisoft's problems, that it seems
<v Speaker 2>that if they think if they can somehow fix this
<v Speaker 2>and all will be well. I know that it didn't
<v Speaker 2>sell well for a Star Wars game, and that was
<v Speaker 2>obviously a shock, and a lot of people are super
<v Speaker 2>Star Wars out at this point, but I still think
<v Speaker 2>that they were probably thinking, Okay, let's get in on
<v Speaker 2>that Battlefront money that EA got until extent that Jedi
<v Speaker 2>money that EA got, and it's just the big console
<v Speaker 2>Star Wars game. Isn't this unique experience that it was
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago when all these companies started
<v Speaker 2>doing it. Again, So I don't know. I was pretty
<v Speaker 2>I think the game's fine. I don't know if with
<v Speaker 2>all of this stuff it would get up to a
<v Speaker 2>four For me. I gave it three stars, right, the
<v Speaker 2>kind of unison with which I've heard the same complaints
<v Speaker 2>about the stealth and the speed there like it obviously
<v Speaker 2>struck a nerve. I just wonder if it gets to
<v Speaker 2>the point where in six months when all the DCS
<v Speaker 2>people are like, yes, it's it's finally, it's finally pretty good.
<v Speaker 2>But how much how much does that actually change how
<v Speaker 2>you seize the project as a whole, because I can't
<v Speaker 2>imagine it's a particularly sunny atmosphere over there at the moment.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think there's like some easy wins you improve,
<v Speaker 1>like the wanted system. When the death Troopers show up,
<v Speaker 1>make them a little bit more, just make them better,
<v Speaker 1>make it more menacing, Do something there, something more interesting
<v Speaker 1>than what happens when that actual when they actually land
<v Speaker 1>where it's most I just try to run away from it,
<v Speaker 1>ignore it, And then when I do run into them,
<v Speaker 1>they seem kind of stupid. It's like, I don't care
<v Speaker 1>if the rest of the Stormtroopers and enemies have dumb
<v Speaker 1>AI whatever, but it's like, at least the most threatening
<v Speaker 1>things should feel like a threat and then and then yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think if they can just kind of get people
<v Speaker 1>through those early steal sequences a little bit faster and
<v Speaker 1>to what I feel is like the meat, that would
<v Speaker 1>probably be better off. But you're right, I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if this game is going to go from a three
<v Speaker 1>to a four star star game. I think this is
<v Speaker 1>a good game. I don't probably never gonna be a
<v Speaker 1>great game. I'm someone who has who loves good Star
<v Speaker 1>Wars games that are not great, so I'm okay with that.
<v Speaker 1>That really works for me. But it's clearly not something
<v Speaker 1>that's going to put a lot of people over the top.
<v Speaker 1>And and you're right, the people are getting if you
<v Speaker 1>do care about Star Wars, if you are one of
<v Speaker 1>these freaks that's still out there being like I just
<v Speaker 1>want my lightsaber, there's Fortnite out there for you, giving
<v Speaker 1>you all that stuff NonStop, and this game is like, well,
<v Speaker 1>what if we explored the interesting underworld and there are
<v Speaker 1>no Jedi and all that stuff. And I guess that's
<v Speaker 1>just poison to a lot of people who are bad
<v Speaker 1>at being fans. In my opinion, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one thing they could do to make that game
<v Speaker 2>better for me is given me one slot to keep
<v Speaker 2>an Empire weapon because it is so so annoying that
<v Speaker 2>you have so many matter and you have.
<v Speaker 1>To drop it. What a crazy thing?
<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, so stupid, so stupid.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean like maybe like it changed the economy
<v Speaker 1>of ammunition or something like that. So it's like I
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like I can use it all the time,
<v Speaker 1>but just one slot I can keep. I can keep
<v Speaker 1>it with me when I climb up a ladder at
<v Speaker 1>the very least, and then when I leave the place.
<v Speaker 1>It's actually hard to come by that ammunition. So I'm
<v Speaker 1>on other missions. I'm not using it so much. I
<v Speaker 1>think that'd be completely fine, Like.
<v Speaker 2>Do like a red that system where if you have
<v Speaker 2>more than one long weapon you have to put it
<v Speaker 2>on your speed and you can only physically recover it
<v Speaker 2>from your speed. There. Like the fact that he is like, well,
<v Speaker 2>like or death situation here. I know there's that's a
<v Speaker 2>rack of impedial weapons. I'm just gonna leave And it's
<v Speaker 2>not even like, oh well, Kay doesn't want to use
<v Speaker 2>impedial weaponry. She both sides the rebels on the impedials
<v Speaker 2>throughout the entire game, so she does not care. There's
<v Speaker 2>no canonical reason beyond maybe they thought it made it
<v Speaker 2>too easy.
<v Speaker 1>But I think they made what they did is they
<v Speaker 1>made that upgrade path for the main blaster such a
<v Speaker 1>core part of what they thought the experience be that
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want people getting distracted with other weapons. And
<v Speaker 1>I think upgrading that blaster does make it more fun
<v Speaker 1>to use that thing. But it just feels weird to
<v Speaker 1>get the E eighteen and wherever the hell it is
<v Speaker 1>and be like, this is so useful in this circumstance.
<v Speaker 1>I am finally able to blast my way out of here,
<v Speaker 1>and now I'm going to climb on the speeder and
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna drop it. It's weird. All right, Let's take
<v Speaker 1>a quick break. When we get back more from Ubisoft.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe either got co op in Assassin's Creed and a
<v Speaker 1>new Avatar The Last Airbender game right after this. All right,
<v Speaker 1>we're back into it. Pikachu van Go is still with us.
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, everybody. Assassin's Creed Shadows is getting a co
<v Speaker 1>op mode, according to a report. This is from GEORGEI.
<v Speaker 1>Yng at GameSpot. Assassin's Creed Shadows is reportedly getting a
<v Speaker 1>co op mode after the game's launch, and it's cod
<v Speaker 1>named League. This is according to Insider Gaming, which notes
<v Speaker 1>that details on the co op mode are scarce. The
<v Speaker 1>report speculates that it could allow for dual protagonists Naoi
<v Speaker 1>No Nao Naoi and Yaske to fight alongside one another,
<v Speaker 1>although that detail is unconfirmed. Shadows was recently delayed of
<v Speaker 1>February fourteenth, it's unclear if the cop mode will be
<v Speaker 1>available right at launch. Yeah, this feels like the kind
<v Speaker 1>of thing that every game consideracy stays and maybe there's
<v Speaker 1>no guarantee it's actually in the game at all. Ever.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is kind of weird because when I
<v Speaker 2>saw Shadows, the pets was like, whether you play as
<v Speaker 2>Yaski or Nawe, the experience is entirely different, as like
<v Speaker 2>completely changing the way that you play. Whereas now if
<v Speaker 2>you have a yask running about Cleyton Shop destroying those
<v Speaker 2>cart fools of oranges that they like to show one
<v Speaker 2>thousand times in those trailers, it kind of throws off
<v Speaker 2>the like the AI of like a stalthy kind of character.
<v Speaker 2>It seems like a weird It seems really weirds difficult
<v Speaker 2>for at least for the campaign.
<v Speaker 1>Right to make the campaign work. It seems like a
<v Speaker 1>be other kind of thing where it's like there have
<v Speaker 1>to be bespoke co op missions or something so that
<v Speaker 1>like one person is being the guy that you know,
<v Speaker 1>the heavy that runs in as yaske and distracts everybody,
<v Speaker 1>and then the stealth person can continue to go stealth
<v Speaker 1>their way in, and the game would have to be
<v Speaker 1>accounting for that in a way that it doesn't. You know,
<v Speaker 1>from having not played it, it doesn't seem like it's
<v Speaker 1>going to be able to account for in the in
<v Speaker 1>the campaign. Also, you know, if they have other distractions
<v Speaker 1>of trying to get this game polished here at the end,
<v Speaker 1>one thing that's easy to put aside is as a
<v Speaker 1>feature you have not promised, is not supposed to be
<v Speaker 1>part of the game, yet it might one day be
<v Speaker 1>an extra future you add. You know they've done the
<v Speaker 1>co op Assassin's Creed Assassin's Creeds before. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>how much those have ever moved the needle all that much.
<v Speaker 1>And I think I think the way I would be like,
<v Speaker 1>I would guess it's like it probably isn't something a
<v Speaker 1>lot of Asassage Creed trans are asking for, because when
<v Speaker 1>new Assassage Creed game gets announced, I don't hear a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people out there being like, remember that one
<v Speaker 1>Assessage Cree co op game, this one should be like
<v Speaker 1>that as well. That's not what really anyone is saying.
<v Speaker 1>So I wonder if Ubisoft would put any real emphasis
<v Speaker 1>on making sure this future gets completed as opposed to
<v Speaker 1>develop a team being like we've continued to experiment with it.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe this is something we could do. I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>it feels like people will actually ever happen.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe like a Ghost of Sushima Legends type thing where
<v Speaker 2>it comes like a year later and it's like it's
<v Speaker 2>attached to the main game and there's like a bit
<v Speaker 2>of story about it. But Ghost of the Shima Legends
<v Speaker 2>broke down into four samurai like circling people and just
<v Speaker 2>battering them with swords, Like it just kind of it
<v Speaker 2>has to be something that is different. I think, as
<v Speaker 2>you say, I can't imagine the look on the dev's
<v Speaker 2>faces if they were like planning this as a single
<v Speaker 2>player experience where you switch between the two. All the
<v Speaker 2>encounters are designed like that, and then suddenly it's there's
<v Speaker 2>an expectation of co op. So yes, I think this
<v Speaker 2>could very easily as a lot of these things are
<v Speaker 2>that get reported that aren't and now is whiteboarded, and
<v Speaker 2>then it's decided that yeah it's not. It's not worth
<v Speaker 2>the time, especially because of how big this game has
<v Speaker 2>to hit now, and we talked about it last Friday,
<v Speaker 2>but the fact they're putting it in February, which is
<v Speaker 2>just a ridiculous, a ridiculous release date in terms of
<v Speaker 2>business already.
<v Speaker 1>It's also a lot of cross birthday, so people are
<v Speaker 1>gonna be celebrating that.
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of cross birthday on February fourth.
<v Speaker 1>Too, Valentine's Day, Yeah, of course. Yep. Well, now to
<v Speaker 1>learn something new every day on this show. Yeah you
<v Speaker 1>said it whiteboarded. It's so easy to scratch something off
<v Speaker 1>on a whiteboard. It's so easy to be like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we have this. Even if it is mostly there, will
<v Speaker 1>it be a benefit or a distraction for this game
<v Speaker 1>going forward? Will be yet another thing we have to
<v Speaker 1>sort of account for in like testing it and then
<v Speaker 1>supporting the game going forward. Are people gonna be like
<v Speaker 1>like it so much that we have to keep making
<v Speaker 1>new content for it? But it's not really selling that
<v Speaker 1>many more copies, so is it worked? It like everything's
<v Speaker 1>part of that calculation. Speaking of you be softed calculations.
<v Speaker 1>There is a report from Bloomberg today just happened here
<v Speaker 1>assault in chat. I haven't been able to fully read it,
<v Speaker 1>but let's just kind of go off the headline here
<v Speaker 1>in the first little a little bit. Apparently the Guimo
<v Speaker 1>family is maybe looking to partner up with ten Cent
<v Speaker 1>to take maybe not take the company back private, but
<v Speaker 1>to like sort of buy up the rest of the
<v Speaker 1>shares so that the Ubisoft no longer has to worry
<v Speaker 1>about the other people who are on the board of
<v Speaker 1>directors and the investors. It seems to be what they're saying.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm actually good to here from ten Cent
<v Speaker 1>or from Bloomberg. Excuse me, Tencent galmea family said to
<v Speaker 1>consider buy out of Ubisoft. The deliberations come after falling
<v Speaker 1>game developers share price. Ten Cent and Gillmo family hold
<v Speaker 1>minority sticks in the French firm currently, and that it
<v Speaker 1>sounds like they would try to buy out the rest
<v Speaker 1>of the shares. Yeah, I mean, I guess that makes
<v Speaker 1>some sense because the stock price has fallen, so if
<v Speaker 1>you're going to do it, you would want to do
<v Speaker 1>that now. But is the answer to UBI Soft's problems
<v Speaker 1>more game.
<v Speaker 2>Al and maybe it delays the fruits of those problems. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that seems like it seems like they want to just
<v Speaker 2>get into a position where they're not fighting a fire
<v Speaker 2>on the financial side and the game quality side. Like
<v Speaker 2>if this gives them a bit of leeway to get
<v Speaker 2>their house in order with their actual main product, then potentially,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Tencent would love to have its tendrils even
<v Speaker 2>further for sure into every single game company there is.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's look, Eve's getting on a bit. I'm
<v Speaker 2>sure he wants at some point not to just be
<v Speaker 2>worrying about the trials and tribulations of ub Soft and
<v Speaker 2>who owns them and is Vivendi coming back for the
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans Funeral? So if this is on Bloomberg, it's
<v Speaker 2>more than conversations in little titterings. So potentially I just
<v Speaker 2>think that that companies in such a weird spot that
<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a one to watch for the next
<v Speaker 2>couple of years, Like are we sitting here in five
<v Speaker 2>years being like, yeah, you'd be Soft just completely and
<v Speaker 2>dissolved and all the franchises got sold off here, there
<v Speaker 2>and everywhere, like is it is? Can a tithen of
<v Speaker 2>that size really disappear? And modern games doesn't.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, wouldn't be a good thing in fourteen thousand
<v Speaker 1>fifth probably way more than I feel like. That's the
<v Speaker 1>last time I checked, and that was a couple of
<v Speaker 1>years ago. But they have more than ten thousand employees
<v Speaker 1>globally in the video game industry, and you want those
<v Speaker 1>jobs to stick around to keep that marketplace competitive for
<v Speaker 1>the people doing that work so they could command higher
<v Speaker 1>salaries and all that stuff. But uh, yeah, it also
<v Speaker 1>feels untenable. It also feels unsustainable as it has been
<v Speaker 1>for a very long time, and maybe now looking at it,
<v Speaker 1>it looks the most unsustainable it's ever been. So yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I I We'll see, I don't you know. The Gimos
<v Speaker 1>you know, gives specifically the whole family is like part
<v Speaker 1>of you be soft and game loft, I guess, but
<v Speaker 1>you'll be soft And they don't like just sit back
<v Speaker 1>and let these things happen. They try to maneuver and
<v Speaker 1>play the political side of things and try to shore
<v Speaker 1>up their positions. It's very a succession over there. I assume,
<v Speaker 1>and that sounds like that process has begun in earnest
<v Speaker 1>once again, them trying to make sure that they are
<v Speaker 1>in the best position to have the most power in
<v Speaker 1>the most money when all of this dust settles. And
<v Speaker 1>as for the quality of the games, fuck it, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know who knows. Well.
<v Speaker 2>Black crowl Can nearly bought them in twenty twenty two,
<v Speaker 2>so it could be wise.
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, good point, Maybe they'll come back. Yeah, all right.
<v Speaker 1>Paramount and Saber Interactive are coming together to make the
<v Speaker 1>biggest Avatar the Last Airbender game yet. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Ben Lyons at Game Reactor. The Avatar the Last Airbender
<v Speaker 1>franchise has seen a bit of a resurgence as of late,
<v Speaker 1>with not only the Netflix Live act series continuing, but
<v Speaker 1>also plans for a film and now also intentions to
<v Speaker 1>return to the game sector for a very ambitious project.
<v Speaker 1>We're told in a press release that Paramount Game Studios
<v Speaker 1>and Saber Interactive are coming together developed to develop a
<v Speaker 1>triple A RPG for PC and consoles that will be
<v Speaker 1>the biggest video game in the franchise history. And that's
<v Speaker 1>for Avatar the Last Airbender. It'll be completely new story
<v Speaker 1>one where players will take on the role of an
<v Speaker 1>all new, never before seen Avatar. Yeah, this franchise always
<v Speaker 1>seemed like it had the possibility to like kind of
<v Speaker 1>move up a tier in terms of the kinds of
<v Speaker 1>games that we're getting released for it, and I think
<v Speaker 1>it's longevity has proven that it will be worth that
<v Speaker 1>all again. Now, Saber and Interactive also feels like maybe
<v Speaker 1>the right team to approach this will have a story
<v Speaker 1>on this what A should do that story next? About
<v Speaker 1>Space Marine two, they seem capable of producing what, by
<v Speaker 1>all measures, should just be called a triple A game,
<v Speaker 1>but on a more reasonable budget, similar to maybe the
<v Speaker 1>Blumhouse model in movies, where it's like, we were gonna
<v Speaker 1>make a very specific kind of game that is big
<v Speaker 1>and looks great and plays great and a lot of
<v Speaker 1>those fans will show up for it and they'll be
<v Speaker 1>very happy. And if they could do that with Avatar
<v Speaker 1>the Last Airbender, I see a potential success here. What
<v Speaker 1>do you think?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting that Paramount Game Studios are moving in
<v Speaker 2>this direction, so I'm just checking what they've done previously.
<v Speaker 2>They did SpongeBob square Pants The Cosmic Shake, which was
<v Speaker 2>licensed out to Purple Lamp Studios. Prior to that, it
<v Speaker 2>was mostly roadblocks, experiences things of that nature. Paramounts sitting
<v Speaker 2>on an absolute mountain of IP, and IP is obviously king.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm surprised that someone not to denigrate Saber,
<v Speaker 2>but I'm surprised someone larger than the Saber didn't go
<v Speaker 2>for the avatar IP because, as you say, it's long lasting,
<v Speaker 2>it's very popular in that in the game space. It
<v Speaker 2>basically has the comical history of having that game that
<v Speaker 2>gets you one hundred gamer score.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Outside of that, yeah, I think Saber have set themselves
<v Speaker 2>up where they can basically their next game is a
<v Speaker 2>free hit in terms of, okay, let's see what we're
<v Speaker 2>going to do after Space Marine, because people are super
<v Speaker 2>into that. But yes, as I said, a surprise, I'm
<v Speaker 2>surprised that it's taken this long. There's a there's a
<v Speaker 2>few properties like that that seem like be set up
<v Speaker 2>for RPGs for so long, especially in the kind of
<v Speaker 2>anime space, that just haven't happened. Like there's a couple
<v Speaker 2>of Attack on Titan games, but they're not really there.
<v Speaker 2>They're very much b games. The jiu Jitsu Kaisen game
<v Speaker 2>is some fucking pish party game, which is really sad.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, as Jan points out, we neither rocket powered
<v Speaker 2>RPG and actually here that's what Blue points on at
<v Speaker 2>the moment. But yeah, this is a it's hopefully it's
<v Speaker 2>good because I don't think if this is bad, it'll
<v Speaker 2>be a while before there's another crack at the whip,
<v Speaker 2>you know, And hopefully this is a licensing agreement where
<v Speaker 2>it's very much hands on from Potterman, just like we
<v Speaker 2>don't know what we're doing. We don't make games. We
<v Speaker 2>just own these licenses. You guys can clearly have the
<v Speaker 2>license do what you want with it.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yeah, I think you know this is I think
<v Speaker 1>this is part of sabers business model as well of
<v Speaker 1>expanding into into games that are not going to be
<v Speaker 1>some huge change to what they've been doing recently. They
<v Speaker 1>could make something that feels, you know, equivalent, and that
<v Speaker 1>won't be exactly like Space Marine two, but equivalent to
<v Speaker 1>Space Marine two. But to make that really work for
<v Speaker 1>that kind of game, you do need an IP and avatar.
<v Speaker 1>The Last Airbender is also from maybe a similar tier
<v Speaker 1>of IP to Warhammer, where it's like it's popular, well
<v Speaker 1>known and it's not as expensive as Star Wars or model,
<v Speaker 1>so we can we can make this financially make sense
<v Speaker 1>for everybody involved. And so yeah, I think it's a
<v Speaker 1>good match. And and I am I think at this
<v Speaker 1>point a fan of Sabers output. So yeah, looking forward
<v Speaker 1>to this, and I think it can work to speak
<v Speaker 1>to that point. Space Marine two dev says game can
<v Speaker 1>succeed without selling absurd number of copies. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Darren bondt Use at GameSpot Warhammer forty thousand. Space Marine
<v Speaker 1>two released to both critical and commercial acclaim last month,
<v Speaker 1>as more than two million players at launch helped it
<v Speaker 1>become the most played Warhammer game of all time on
<v Speaker 1>Steam alone. Speaking of the game's achievements, Saber Interactive Chief
<v Speaker 1>creative officer Tim Willetts, formerly of ID Software, recently explained
<v Speaker 1>how the game is expected to be successful without needing
<v Speaker 1>to reach lofty sales goals. We don't need to sell
<v Speaker 1>four million units to make it Space Marine two a success.
<v Speaker 1>Will It's said to IgM there are many games, sadly,
<v Speaker 1>especially out of North American developers, where if you do
<v Speaker 1>not sell five million copies you are a failure. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>what business are we in where you fail? If you
<v Speaker 1>sell less than five million, I think asking the right questions, right.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the questions every time we get in
<v Speaker 1>this situation, we're like, man, you needed to do that,
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, Star Wars Outlaws, they were kind of
<v Speaker 1>needed to sell like seven million to make that make sense.
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, oh, I get it. Star Wars very
<v Speaker 1>expensive and you did you Chruice, you swung really hard.
<v Speaker 1>And swinging really hard is the business model. Because you've
<v Speaker 1>been making successful games and certain styles for so long,
<v Speaker 1>you've got to get the next home run to kind
<v Speaker 1>of justify every little bit of growth you've been doing recently.
<v Speaker 1>And that's the capitalist system. Not necessarily the choices made
<v Speaker 1>by Ubisoft. They are the choices you have to make
<v Speaker 1>because you're a business that exists in this environment. But
<v Speaker 1>what if you took a little bit of you know,
<v Speaker 1>had a little spine, took made some decisions for yourself
<v Speaker 1>and said what is actually best for the games we make,
<v Speaker 1>the people who make our games, and for our long
<v Speaker 1>term success, our long term of viability. And it feels
<v Speaker 1>a lot like the question he's asking right here, which
<v Speaker 1>is what kind of business are we in where you
<v Speaker 1>have to sell five million or you're a failure unless
<v Speaker 1>you sell five million. And I think them staking out
<v Speaker 1>this ground is going to be very good for them,
<v Speaker 1>because I think there's going to be a lot of
<v Speaker 1>studios that try to retreat into this position and try
<v Speaker 1>to emulate what's Saved has been doing recently. And it's
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna get very crowded very soon, where we're gonna
<v Speaker 1>actually get a lot of games in this style in
<v Speaker 1>the next five years, and we'll be talking about how
<v Speaker 1>there's too many games of that size and things will
<v Speaker 1>start failing because of that.
<v Speaker 2>Right, bring back the Quadruple A games. I say, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>these guys, they're they're really nailed it with like all
<v Speaker 2>the messaging, all the interview responses, things of that nature.
<v Speaker 2>And I mentioned in a few places that the actual
<v Speaker 2>game didn't really work for me. But from like a
<v Speaker 2>philosophical standpoint, like I love everything they're saying. I'm a
<v Speaker 2>big Triple A guy, Jeff, I like big budget Triple
<v Speaker 2>A games. The apart from Blatter, that's the one true game.
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's an it's an untenable business outside of
<v Speaker 2>the absolute top end. If there was concerns about Spider Man,
<v Speaker 2>who not selling enough Spider Man who yep, PlayStation spider Mond,
<v Speaker 2>and we have to take a look towards ourselves and
<v Speaker 2>think what we're doing, calveat being. When GTA five comes
<v Speaker 2>out next year and sells forty Quintellian units, everyone else
<v Speaker 2>will go that's the way to do it. Yeah, for
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years on a game and put it out and
<v Speaker 2>hope for the base.
<v Speaker 1>I thought that would happen after Red Dead Redemption too,
<v Speaker 1>And I don't feel like there's many developers that were like,
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make a game like that. There's not been
<v Speaker 1>actually that many attempts to do that, which I'm like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>that's smart, because you can't do it. You're right everyone
<v Speaker 1>that said maybe we should do it and then gave up,
<v Speaker 1>you were right to give up. That was a bad idea.
<v Speaker 1>You're right though. People. I'd be like, the investors will
<v Speaker 1>see the big numbers and be like, where is your
<v Speaker 1>Grand Theft Auto six? And then some some executive would
<v Speaker 1>be like, let's give some non answer and then go
<v Speaker 1>back to their to their actual developers, and they'll all
<v Speaker 1>laugh and be like I'm like and cry. They'll laugh
<v Speaker 1>and cry and be like, yeah, I can't believe they
<v Speaker 1>said that.
<v Speaker 2>The old He's about like game makers coming into work
<v Speaker 2>off the breath of the wayotes, like the weekend, off
<v Speaker 2>the breath of the wayos, and everyone be like, why
<v Speaker 2>don't we just do like that's and that's part, and
<v Speaker 2>that's part. Oh Jesus Christ, yep, this is not what
<v Speaker 2>we're doing. Oh, that's it.
<v Speaker 1>And that's the designers lead designers on games, so like
<v Speaker 1>they'll go play something and come back and uh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you hear that all the time, which is why always
<v Speaker 1>get frustrated. People are like, well, why are you comparing
<v Speaker 1>this game to that game? It's like because the motherfuckers
<v Speaker 1>played it and they wanted to make their game like
<v Speaker 1>that because they're human, and just like everybody else, wouldn't
<v Speaker 1>be cool if our game was more like Hades I.
<v Speaker 1>Every game designer said that after hades Uh all right,
<v Speaker 1>The new Until Dawn is more than just an upgrade.
<v Speaker 1>It's a hint of a sequel. This is from Michael
<v Speaker 1>mcwurder at Polygon. Developer Ballistic Moons rebuilt an enhanced version
<v Speaker 1>of horror game Until Dawn out this Friday. Out today.
<v Speaker 1>Goes beyond just visual upgrades for PlayStation five in Windows PC.
<v Speaker 1>The remastered re release of the twenty fifteen original also
<v Speaker 1>includes a little something more in the form of a
<v Speaker 1>new ending. It points towards a possible future for the franchise,
<v Speaker 1>While the studio behind the new Until Dawn has said
<v Speaker 1>it did not want to alter the events of the game,
<v Speaker 1>instead focusing on a cinematic update to enhance its visuals
<v Speaker 1>or change its visuals if you don't think they're actually enhanced.
<v Speaker 1>I know some people feel that way. The remasters contained
<v Speaker 1>a reworked prologue and at least one new ending, according
<v Speaker 1>to leaked pre release footage of the remastered Until Dawn
<v Speaker 1>that includes a new fate of Josh Ramy Mallock's character
<v Speaker 1>and an epilog featuring Sam played by Panetary. Yeah. I
<v Speaker 1>think that this is one of those situations where it
<v Speaker 1>feels like the reason they're doing this is because they
<v Speaker 1>want to do more Until Dawn and teasing a sequel
<v Speaker 1>and something like this also feels very in line with
<v Speaker 1>with like kind of what you can do with the
<v Speaker 1>horror genre. So yeah, not too surprised to hear this.
<v Speaker 1>Do you think people are going to want more Until Dawn?
<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think it's worth No. I think
<v Speaker 2>people online were saying that Hayden came back for this
<v Speaker 2>and oh, behind the scenes stuff, so clearly she's If
<v Speaker 2>that is the case, I can't verify this, but that's
<v Speaker 2>what people were saying this. She just came back to
<v Speaker 2>do some things for this, So yeah, I knew until Dawn.
<v Speaker 2>I wonder who would make it at this point, but
<v Speaker 2>I could. I can certainly see something like that happening.
<v Speaker 2>They have the film coming out that's got Peter Stormyer
<v Speaker 2>in it, so interesting. The IP is growing, so it'd
<v Speaker 2>be good a good time to kind of put that
<v Speaker 2>out into the world. I've not played I got called
<v Speaker 2>for it yesterday. I've not played it yet. People were
<v Speaker 2>a couple of people were saying that it runs like
<v Speaker 2>quite badly and there's some like technical problems with this.
<v Speaker 2>It's a fucking PS four game. What were we playing
<v Speaker 2>that here?
<v Speaker 1>That's a bit silly.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not got any guns in it, and.
<v Speaker 1>Side by sick of parisons and I'm like, I don't
<v Speaker 1>know which ones which.
<v Speaker 2>I wrote a version of this story earlier and I
<v Speaker 2>put a screenshot in it and I was like, I'm
<v Speaker 2>as certain this isn't the PS four game, and I
<v Speaker 2>only know it wasn't because VGC didn't exist when the
<v Speaker 2>PS four game came out, so the only screenshots we
<v Speaker 2>had in the library were the new ones. What's that?
<v Speaker 2>When do I get in the Quadi remaster? That would
<v Speaker 2>be next?
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yeah, and it is. I think. So I mentioned
<v Speaker 1>people aren't happy with some of the changes. It's, uh,
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a color correction on the original game
<v Speaker 1>to kind of give that blue tent that blue hue,
<v Speaker 1>and they've just removed that here and it's made it
<v Speaker 1>more a naturalistic color. And it's like, okay, that was
<v Speaker 1>Those were artistic design choices and removing those does not
<v Speaker 1>inherently improve the image. And it's like, yeah, that's how,
<v Speaker 1>very frequently how I feel now. I don't I never
<v Speaker 1>played until Dawn, So it's like, I don't know. I'm
<v Speaker 1>not carrying any of that bagage personally, but I get
<v Speaker 1>people who say that. But we are going to play this,
<v Speaker 1>this remastered version on Monday, everybody, So we'll start it up.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna try to play through the whole game next week,
<v Speaker 1>and we'll make the decisions together, try to make a
<v Speaker 1>good time out of it and see what we think
<v Speaker 1>ourselves real quick last story, fifty three percent of gamers
<v Speaker 1>prefer single player games. This is from Jonas mackeyet Game Reactor.
<v Speaker 1>Despite the extreme success of great singer player experiences like
<v Speaker 1>Elden Ring, The Legends, Ulda, Tiers of the Kingdom, Marvel,
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man two, Hogwarts Legacy, Blackmith, Wukong, and Warhammer forty thousand,
<v Speaker 1>Space Brain two, while live service ventures like Redfall and
<v Speaker 1>Concord have struggled considerably, the giants of the gaming world
<v Speaker 1>will continue to be focused on the live service concept.
<v Speaker 1>And that would be understandable if that was the absolute
<v Speaker 1>majority at what the absolute majority wanted to play. But
<v Speaker 1>now the analysis company Media Research presents a survey that
<v Speaker 1>reveals that fifty three percent of all gamers prefer to
<v Speaker 1>play single player. And then you have to remember that
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the respondents didn't necessarily all vote for
<v Speaker 1>online multiplayer, but also local co op, which was around
<v Speaker 1>twenty percent of respondents. Yeah, this is something where it's
<v Speaker 1>I think in a survey, single player games are probably
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a better chance of getting respondents that say, hey,
<v Speaker 1>that's what I prefer. I do remember a few years ago,
<v Speaker 1>though you would look at like MPD or any sales chart,
<v Speaker 1>and multiplayer games were vastly outselling single player games. Now
<v Speaker 1>that I think in the last few years has sort
<v Speaker 1>of flipped back to be a little bit more equal.
<v Speaker 1>Where last year you get Hogwarts Legacy number one and
<v Speaker 1>then Call of Duty number two, and that feels to
<v Speaker 1>be like kind of where we're settling in at this
<v Speaker 1>point where there are going to be a handful of
<v Speaker 1>single player games that are massive and a handful of
<v Speaker 1>multiplayer games are going to be massive, and then what
<v Speaker 1>happens beyond that? Maybe it is like more likely for
<v Speaker 1>a single player game to succeed, but not so much
<v Speaker 1>more likely that it makes it a safe better or
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Do you think this speaks to what
<v Speaker 1>publishers should be trying to make or is this gonna
<v Speaker 1>kind of like more tea leaves that are hard to
<v Speaker 1>read about. If you had money to invest in making games,
<v Speaker 1>maybe you should make this kind of game versus another
<v Speaker 1>kind of game.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like the dollar pair person argument. Really, it's
<v Speaker 2>like the person that buys Hogwarts Legacy spends seventy dollars,
<v Speaker 2>but that same person that prefers the multiplayer game across
<v Speaker 2>the entire time they play that multiplayer game spends hundreds
<v Speaker 2>of dollars or in some extreme cases weekly they're spending
<v Speaker 2>twenty dollars on skins. So I think the and if
<v Speaker 2>you were just to ask people in the street, you
<v Speaker 2>would probably get, especially people that would respond to something
<v Speaker 2>like that. As you say, it would be maybe more
<v Speaker 2>single player inclined. But if it was like a forensic,
<v Speaker 2>how much do you spend more money on multiplayer games
<v Speaker 2>or single player games? I think multiplayer games quite obviously.
<v Speaker 2>I think we can smash it, and I think we
<v Speaker 2>have the data for that.
<v Speaker 1>Like when we do actually look at the end of
<v Speaker 1>the year and say, hey, where what did most of
<v Speaker 1>the money go? It clearly went to multiplayer games, which
<v Speaker 1>is why those decisions keep getting made. But still there
<v Speaker 1>are there does seem to be a growth of interest
<v Speaker 1>once again in big single player games from both sides,
<v Speaker 1>people playing and the people making them. So does that
<v Speaker 1>mean like Warner Brothers is going all in on single
<v Speaker 1>player games like Harry Potter or like Hogwarts Legacy. They
<v Speaker 1>said themselves they aren't doing that, so and they're the
<v Speaker 1>ones that have the data ran in front of them
<v Speaker 1>abo how well that game did and even they're like,
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take some of these things like like Harry
<v Speaker 1>Potter and make all my multiplayer games. So expect a
<v Speaker 1>lot of both still and expect the occasion like we
<v Speaker 1>just this week, I think Tennis Wheney was saying that
<v Speaker 1>investment in big single player games should probably go away
<v Speaker 1>because they keep running into walls and Fortnite continues trucking
<v Speaker 1>along making all the money in the world. And I
<v Speaker 1>get what he's saying, and people are going to keep
<v Speaker 1>saying that, But I think what's going to happen is
<v Speaker 1>we will It'll be the pinchil, We'll go back and forth.
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it will be high tide, sometimes it'll be low
<v Speaker 1>tide for single player games, and I think right now
<v Speaker 1>we're mostly a high tide, and so you can expect
<v Speaker 1>some investment in that space going forward. And then if
<v Speaker 1>enough of these things do stumble, like enough Star Wars
<v Speaker 1>Outlaws happens, If like Dragon Age comes out and is
<v Speaker 1>pretty good and still has it does it like it underperforms,
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, in a couple of months, we
<v Speaker 1>get EA on investor call saying we're going back to
<v Speaker 1>investing more in live service games again. So we'll see,
<v Speaker 1>but it's going to be a pendulum swing forever.
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much of my money. Do I need to EA
<v Speaker 2>and FC points in order to preserve single player games?
<v Speaker 2>Because I'll do it. I'm giving them the money anyway.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's I think if you give them enough,
<v Speaker 1>they will just actually stop making single player games all together.
<v Speaker 1>So it's a really delicate balance.
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, you like to see would you like to see
<v Speaker 2>something absolutely fucking ridiculous?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with you, Paul, very kindly. I was sent this
<v Speaker 2>edition of e f C twenty five. It says a
<v Speaker 2>Field sent it to you based on how much play.
<v Speaker 2>It's because I'm the world's best EFC player. But I
<v Speaker 2>opened it and I was like, okay, there is my
<v Speaker 2>second ever physical PS five game. And but the journey
<v Speaker 2>continues because when you open it and there's nothing inside it,
<v Speaker 2>it's an empty case for e f C twenty five.
<v Speaker 1>What a twist? What what? What the hell is happening here? What?
<v Speaker 1>Why they do that?
<v Speaker 2>And I was reliably and formed that was supposed to
<v Speaker 2>be a code included, but you know, busy time launching
<v Speaker 2>a game, so what was email to me separately?
<v Speaker 1>So so there was supposed to be something included, but
<v Speaker 1>not a disc.
<v Speaker 2>So oh yeah, it's like it's like a copy that
<v Speaker 2>you would find on the shelf at a game shop,
<v Speaker 2>but it's not the real cover arts. It's nothing on
<v Speaker 2>the back. It just says like for the club or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>But when I opened that, I was like laughing out loud.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, if this is just what it's meant
<v Speaker 2>to be, best press cut I've ever seen, incredible, funny,
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm playing so much. Yeah, see it is,
<v Speaker 2>so it's so good. It's a good one. It's it's
<v Speaker 2>much better than it's been in the past couple of years.
<v Speaker 2>And I would have played it, that's much regardless. But
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually enjoying my.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad to hear that. Happy for you. You
<v Speaker 1>you get yours. I'm gonna start playing NHL today and
<v Speaker 1>I won't play it as much as you play FC.
<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, all right, pull question coming up here
<v Speaker 1>in a second. Actually, let's just get that going right now.
<v Speaker 1>All right, See there, have you ever used U jinks
<v Speaker 1>or you zoo uh? And a lot of the comments
<v Speaker 1>here have said a nice try cop, So we'll see
<v Speaker 1>how much we can rely on this information. But twenty
<v Speaker 1>eight percent said yes, forty percent said no, and thirty
<v Speaker 1>two percent said I don't know what those are, and
<v Speaker 1>I bet quite a few of those might be yes
<v Speaker 1>as well. Either way, though, twenty eight percent out and
<v Speaker 1>proud saying hey, I've used ru Jinks or Yuzu. Of
<v Speaker 1>three point three thousand votes, this is probably why Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>is behaving the way that they're behaving. It has reached
<v Speaker 1>that threshold where it is the thing that maybe a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people think of first when they think of
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo games. I'm gonna go get this, I'm gonna pirate it,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to play it on an emulator. And
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that justifies a lot of Nintendo's behavior,
<v Speaker 1>but I think it explains it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's been a real weird periods where during the
<v Speaker 2>Echoes of Weslem review period, I was on tech Talk
<v Speaker 2>and just scrolling and seeing people play the Fu game
<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again. I'm like, well, as
<v Speaker 2>it's so over at this point, Yeah, I don't know
<v Speaker 2>what those things are and I'll stay there. Thanks.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they don't. Thanks, they don't give us access to
<v Speaker 1>it in prison, So yeah, yeah, I think that you know,
<v Speaker 1>they they see these numbers they know how frequently people
<v Speaker 1>are doing this, they have their ways of tracking that,
<v Speaker 1>and they want to reset the clock on all these
<v Speaker 1>things for switch to. So those dual motivations have led
<v Speaker 1>to the lawyers kind of just let they've let the
<v Speaker 1>hounds loose, and we're seeing the We're seeing examples of
<v Speaker 1>that every week now. It seems like, all right, new
<v Speaker 1>pole question here in a second before we get to that, though, Jordan,
<v Speaker 1>why do you tell people where they can find you
<v Speaker 1>on the internet what you have going on? All that
<v Speaker 1>good stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Am not to be marbid about it, but it's been
<v Speaker 2>a pretty fucking terrible week for the games media after
<v Speaker 2>the Shattle lost a lot of good people, Play, which
<v Speaker 2>is the British PlayStation magazine formerly known those Official PlayStation Magazine,
<v Speaker 2>ended its run with Oscar, the former boss of that,
<v Speaker 2>being laid off earlier this year. Not only that, today,
<v Speaker 2>gg recon completely shut down. It is a terrible, terrible time.
<v Speaker 2>There are basically no jobs in games media and about
<v Speaker 2>one hundred people that need those jobs. So in order
<v Speaker 2>to prevent that happening more and more, you should be
<v Speaker 2>supporting independent games media. If you like VGC, Patreon dot com,
<v Speaker 2>slash VGC, But don't just look into VGC. You think
<v Speaker 2>about supporting us. Think about the people that you watch
<v Speaker 2>every week, be that Giant Bomb, min Max kind of funny.
<v Speaker 2>Other people are available apparently, but I wouldn't know just
<v Speaker 2>BGC and think about supporting them, because one day you'll
<v Speaker 2>see those tweets that say I am looking for work
<v Speaker 2>because the ad market is impossible. Legacy games media deserves
<v Speaker 2>to live and is important in a world where people
<v Speaker 2>can get away with saying that a Sony executive didn't
<v Speaker 2>know that Ghost of Yot started women. You need real
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<v Speaker 1>They were caught blindsided.
<v Speaker 2>Oh fuck, I don't believe that punching fucking norm game
<v Speaker 2>developers in it again.
<v Speaker 1>They put a woman in a game? Yeah, incredible stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine what what? Like? I imagine what it
<v Speaker 1>would actually be like to try to sneak a woman
<v Speaker 1>character in a game you're making for a corporation that's
<v Speaker 1>paying for you to make that game, Like all of
<v Speaker 1>the moving parts you would need to do to make
<v Speaker 1>it to pull that off, And then imagine thinking that's possible,
<v Speaker 1>saying it out loud for everybody.
<v Speaker 2>Those one thing saying it because the person that said
<v Speaker 2>it and Noy believes that of course are lying. But
<v Speaker 2>the people that believed it get like that there's something
<v Speaker 2>that there's some people that do the graph that keep
<v Speaker 2>it to just the believable enough right.
<v Speaker 1>It's like line Steppers, Lind Steppers.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, law, people could be seeing this sounds plausible, but
<v Speaker 2>when you're getting to the point, but it's like setting,
<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, my fucking god, what have we done?
<v Speaker 2>I believe this ghost of where's ghost of Sushima? That
<v Speaker 2>I signed off on a document that said ghost of
<v Speaker 2>Sushima too featuring mine? What is this? We were misled? Jeff?
<v Speaker 1>We yes? Were we mislead? Say? Yeah, god, that was
<v Speaker 1>That's that's always a plan in my head too that
<v Speaker 1>That's actually what I always have to remember is the
<v Speaker 1>people that signed the grums petitions or whatever, and the
<v Speaker 1>videos they posted in themselves, and this was just not
<v Speaker 1>the top class of society, uh. In those videos, some
<v Speaker 1>some not some real great thinkers among their ranks, and
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, oh, these are the people that would
<v Speaker 1>believe that Hiroki Totkey was caught off guard by a
<v Speaker 1>woman in a video game. All right, Newpoole question, what
<v Speaker 1>do you prefer single play games or multiplayer games? We
<v Speaker 1>will get the results of that on Game Mess Mornings
<v Speaker 1>here on Giant Bomb on Monday. Yes, I should be
<v Speaker 1>here from Monday, although I'm going to a baseball game
<v Speaker 1>that afternoon. Speaking a Giant Bomb though, BCR is happening
<v Speaker 1>at ten am Pacific time one pm Eastern, so in
<v Speaker 1>about an hour ish we'll be going live with that.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about Silent Hill too. Jan's been playing,
<v Speaker 1>Dan has played. I got some questions, gonna ask the
<v Speaker 1>boys some of that stuff. We'll get that going and
<v Speaker 1>then upf at noonish Pacific time three pm Eastern, we
<v Speaker 1>are gonna probably build a bridge. We are probably gonna
<v Speaker 1>we talked about Pico Park two building bridges out of
<v Speaker 1>human beings. And then then we saw that Worms Are
<v Speaker 1>Armageddon got updated and got released. But we'll mu just
<v Speaker 1>to play the PC version, so we might do Worms
<v Speaker 1>and that'll be our demo data. End the week. Well,
<v Speaker 1>we'll see. We got some stuff that we could be doing.
<v Speaker 1>It'll be unprofessional, I can guarantee you that. In the meantime, though,
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Midler, thank you so much. Hanging out with me
<v Speaker 1>today and talk about video games. Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, is our long national nightmare over is one tomorrow?
<v Speaker 2>Who's saying returning next week? Is that the case?
<v Speaker 1>I think he is supposed to return next week? Our
<v Speaker 1>returning champion will come back from his crusades a victor
<v Speaker 1>reverse crusades. And let's see anything else I should mention, No,
<v Speaker 1>just if you're watching live, hang around, we'll have more stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, about fifty five minutes to an hour.
<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you everybody for watching. You're the best
<v Speaker 1>audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself and goodbye. Even thanks thanks for
<v Speaker 1>listening as well.