#599 - Joel McHale on the Community Movie, His Funniest Celebrity Friend and Bobby & Eddie Rank TV Stars

Bobby Bones Presents: The BobbyCast

Joel McHale joins Bobby to talk about whether the long-awaited Community movie is actually happening, his funniest celebrity friend, and the unusual path that took him to TV. Plus, Bobby and Eddie get into a ranking of TV stars as they debate who belongs at the top, who is the most likeable, and which names are impossible to leave off the list. It’s a fun mix of behind-the-scenes stories, TV talk, and the kind of arguments that only get stronger once the rankings start. Joel also shares some of the stories and moments that have made his career such an unexpected one. And as the TV star debate heats up, Bobby and Eddie try to make their case for who really deserves a spot near the top.

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00:00:07
Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to the Bobby Cast. Now we do have Joel McHale coming up. Love Joel McHale. I think Joel McHale is one of the friendliest seeming guys in television or movies. And so I have Eddie here and I just gave him the challenge of who do you think are the nicest guys? We don't know them? Yes, we can't know them. It's tough because we know a couple, but we can't pick anybody we know.

00:00:29
Speaker 2: Like even if we've spent time with them, but really don't know them like they've been around. I kind of know their personality, but we don't know them personally.

00:00:36
Speaker 1: Think it has to be just people that we see on screen and that we feel are super awesome just from the characters they play. Are the interviews they do? Got it? If we're betting money on them being awesome people, that's who we bet on. Okay, So I'm gonna remove And this came up because of that because I love Joel McHale, didn't know him in that interview with him is coming up. He's freaking awesome. He's awesome. That's cool. Another one that I'm going to eliminate is Michael straight hand, because I think I would have picked him because he seems so fun I have been on GMA a couple of times, have interviewed him on this. I would have put him on, but I have a one percent relationship with him. But I'm taking him off. But he would have been there. He seems like a really nice guy. I love Michael Strahan, can't get enough. Yeah, okay, so we'll go back and forth. I'll let you go first, and you're the guests, all right.

00:01:24
Speaker 2: My first one that since Saturday Night Saturday Night Live, I've loved Jimmy Fallon. I feel like he is just genuine. He is who you get who he is just by seeing everything he does on TV. He's so funny and the fact that he can make fun of himself and how much he laughs at himself.

00:01:42
Speaker 1: I think it'd be just great to hang out with him. Dude stories we read about them factor in Yes, Okay, yeah, I agree with you. What I know that there's been a few things, nothing nothing bad, nothing cancelable, right, I just wonder, but personality traits to me, what's crazy about Jimmy fall is how great of a singer he also is. Because you don't know him as a singer, but then when he actually does try to sing, not just on a show, but he'll go and sing with people at concerts. He's awesome even when he does, like Mick Jagger, he sounds so good. There have been stories about him, and I don't want to put him on blast, but like if he drinks a lot, like okay, that's even more a reason why I like to hang out with him, right, And I don't even know that they're true, but you know, he'd read stories about Jimmy Fallon at times when he's not working, he gets out of control at this place. But that may also make you like him more, That's what I'm saying. Am I crazy to think that those have been real stories?

00:02:43
Speaker 3: Right?

00:02:44
Speaker 1: Okay? So, but also to run that schedule and like that man, he's busy. Okay, I like it. He wasn't on mine, but I like it. I love Jimmy Fallon. I cheated. I put somebody on my list who I kind of know, and it's unfair who is it. I'm gonna say who it is, it doesn't count. But I just really like Kelly Clarkson. Oh yeah, you know her. I know she knows you by name. She's awesome. I don't I take her off my list. I did put her on before I made the rules. We could have never talked to them. I have a couple. I was on her talk show. That wasn't that big of a deal. We've spoken before. I start her an airport once and she came up to me and she was like bo and she lived in Nashville for a long She's awesome. I'm gonna pull her off the list. Can't do it. Okay, she is so likable that she's awesome.

00:03:26
Speaker 2: Man Like if you know nothing about her and you just watch her like, that's another one who you feel like you watch and you're like you're really seeing.

00:03:33
Speaker 1: Who they are. Okay, for you? Do you don't know Kelly Clarkson? Do you love Kelly Clarkson? Who love Kelly? You should love Kelly Clarkson because she's so she can't be on my list, but consider her for next time we do this. That's good. Kelly Clarkson is amazing. Okay, I'm gonna put Paul Rudd. That's a good one. I feel like he's my best friend. I feel like he was my best friend on Friends back in the day. Because Paul Rudd married Phoebe. They were together on the show. On the show and so and then that's why you called her Phoebe and not Lizikudro. I did a movie Lisa Cudro once. Yeah, if I can say something about her, I sat next door in a makeup chair in the movie was called Band Slam. I had nine lines. Great movie, by the way, you know, underrated movie. I remember when I want teenage kids. It's clean, it's pretty good. Yes, Paul Rud married her right on the show, and then obviously he's done everything else. If that dude is a bad dude, I don't want to live. Then I'm the most wrong judge of character in the history of judges of character. I think Paul Rudd seems like the greatest, most fun, normal, self deprecating, also actually knows he's pretty good. At the same time, so when he says that it doesn't rub you the wrong way. Yeah, you're so right about that. I'm going Paul, wait, think about that, Mike, Paul Rudd. I love Paul, and don't you think too.

00:04:50
Speaker 2: Like when these actors have certain roles like Paul Rud's never a bad bad dude unless I've missed a movie where he plays a really bad dude.

00:04:58
Speaker 1: He's always a likable I too. In his movies. I think the roles they played reflect who they are. Well, no, I would say affects what we think, because I think there are probably bad dudes that play good people and good people that play bad guy.

00:05:11
Speaker 2: But I mean, Paul Rud even plays a criminal in ant Man and he's still a good guy.

00:05:15
Speaker 1: I never watch ant Man. I couldn't get into it. He is ant Man, right, Yeah, I know, I couldn't believe it. I can believe all the other ones. Wolf Rain, I believe it, but man, I believe it. But I'm raising a man. I'm just like that can never happen. It makes no sense. My number one is Paul Rudd, back to you, that's good. My number two is Ryan Goslin. Ryan Goslin never met the guy. And there is again to my point where you watch every Ryan Gosling movie and you just want to be his friend because he just seems and it's not fair. He's so good looking. It's not fair. That's a half point off for me that that I'm jealous of how good he.

00:05:56
Speaker 2: Looks, because these are such a good looking dude. But he's such a likable character in all of his movies that I gravitate towards Ryan Goslin. If there's a movie coming out and Ryan Goslin's in it, I want to see it, mostly because I just want to see Ryan Goslin.

00:06:11
Speaker 1: So I just think you have a crush on Ryan Gosling anything else. But what I would say in Ryan Gosling at not if his defense, and more of what you're saying is when he does things like Saturday Night Live, like they know how talented he is, and the fact that they enjoy and he's on so many times, and that they break and they crack a lot with him, it means they like him, yes, And if there are people that genuinely like somebody, you can always tell. So if people I like like somebody, I like them. I think the SNL stuff does more for me for liking him as a person than the movies do. Although I do like him as an actor a lot.

00:06:47
Speaker 2: I think he's one of the greatest actors ever, because like weird, weird to say that, there really aren't a lot of I mean, I can't.

00:06:53
Speaker 1: Think you're in love with him. I can't and I get it. He's a really good looking you know that law.

00:06:58
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about movies, but you know how we've talked about our top five Forever Forrest Gump, Shotshak Reneption, the you know the same once.

00:07:05
Speaker 1: I think Lala Land has moved up to my top five. Wland is so good. I did not expect it to be good. I know it's awesome. Who's in it? Well, yeah, Ryan Gosling, Emma Stone, Yep, yeah, I haven't seen the Please please allow me to respectfully comment on your Ryan Gosling. Please. I think you just like him as an actor. I do, but that also means that I kind of like him as a person. I'll let you have it. I'm not going to ask it. It's like Tom Hanks, It's like I need to see these people in interviews. I need to see these people. Have you seen Ryan Goslin interviews? I saw him do a promo for Project Hill Mary. Was he funny? And they had him throw a football? Oh? Not that? So you're like, I'm not hanging out with this. No, it's not that. It's that he is on camera A dude's dude good looking gets the chicks. Is also lovable, The Notebook awesome. He grew up basically a theater kid. Sure, he's on Star Search. She was in Mickey mouse Club Star Search, right, yeah, Mickey mouse Club singing. So he didn't play a lot of sports. He didn't need to, so good. Never really learned to throw a ball. Yeah, someone and his team should have said, instead of doing this, Hail Mary throw for Project Hill Mary, let's not throw a ball because it looked like if I were throwing it with my off hand. Yeah, yeah, which would be your right hand.

00:08:23
Speaker 3: You know what.

00:08:23
Speaker 1: I kind of liked that about him. He's not perfect, so I think I think it up and all the point.

00:08:28
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:08:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ryan Gosling's good. That's a good one. Okay, So your two are who's so far? I have Jimmy Fallon and Ryan Gosling. I have like eight. I'm gonna go Kristen Bell. Really she seems fun. She seems funny. Yeah, she's wildly talented obviously, because and not even just for like the movies like Forgetting Sarah Marshall, she sings and Frozen she does. Have you ever just seen her sing? No, so talent wise a plus all in. But she married to Dax there together she does the commercials. To me, Kristen Bell seems like that cuttingly funny friend who doesn't have to dominate the conversation. But man, when you go to her, she knocks it out of the park. Fair. I feel like Kristen Bell is so likable. I don't think i've ever met her. Do you like Dax Shepard? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I don't not like him. I respect him.

00:09:29
Speaker 2: Okay, see, I'm not a fan of his. Uh So then I'm always thinking like, Okay, well she's married to him, So does that mean that she's not.

00:09:39
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it means she's even cooler because he's like a normal dude. Yeah. Yeah, Like he's like a dude who has his freaking demons from what Michigan grew up did his whole came to La was unpunked and came up that way rights the Grinds podcast, smart guy, intellectual guy. I feel like her being with him makes me like her even more interesting because I feel like I'm not as like cool guy motorcycle as Dax, but I feel some similarities with us. With we came up in a way that was very different than a lot of people come up that make it in these areas. Okay, So I think I like Christy about Moore because she's ready dack, shephard, I'm about you ask that.

00:10:21
Speaker 2: I never thought about that because if you know the person's spouse, it's kind of like a good indicator of like, all right, what's the spouse, Like do I like that spouse.

00:10:29
Speaker 1: Or do they have to be a certain way to put up with the spouse? Correct? Like I think you would like my wife more if you knew how hard I was to deal with at times, like how you're not telling me that, right, No, I'm just saying it, just like how neurotic I am. How and my wife is the funniest person I have ever met. But also she has to deal with this and she deals with it. And no one has ever been the boss over me, like especially in my personal life, I have a boss over me, and it's crazy. But Kristin bell is mom, have Paul Rudd and Kristin bell Man. Those are good. Those are really good.

00:11:05
Speaker 4: Hank Tight, the Bobby Cast will be right back and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

00:11:21
Speaker 1: All right, give me your So the last one's hard just because it's the last spot. And I have so pick one and then I'll pick one and then we can do our honorable mentions.

00:11:29
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm gonna go with And I didn't technically meet this guy you met him. I was there watching you meet him, and I was jealous that I didn't get to talk to him.

00:11:39
Speaker 1: It's Jim Nance. Oh yeah, he's awesome and mostly explain who he is in case people don't know sports Jim Nance. He is the voice of CBS Sports. He's the he does the Masters. He talks very softly, NFL with NFL with Tony Romo, that's his partner in crime Final four two right, yes, at least for at least for he I think you were talking from that now.

00:12:01
Speaker 2: Very very recognizable voice. I love his voice. The voice is great.

00:12:04
Speaker 1: But I feel like he is He plays golf, he loves sports, and I feel like he would have so many stories, you know, like.

00:12:14
Speaker 2: Just and from watching this is based on you meeting him, watching the interaction between you two, he seemed like a very likable guy.

00:12:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim NANTZ. Just first of all, I was in all the first time I met him, because I'm not cool enough to no know him. I do have a cell phone, Remember, what you do. Yeah, but I never once texted it not, so you have it? Is it? What's it under Jim? It has to be. It has to be just under Jim Nance or like voice. God, you can't do that. Man. If somebody steals your phone and they see Jim Nance, they're not gonna ge. They're not gonna get my code. Okay, yeah, look wow it says Jim Nance. I'm not gonna text him now because as we're recording this, the Masters is happening. Yes, he's busy. So the greatest Jim Nance story The first time I met Jim Nance, we were I was playing Pebble Beach prom you were with me. He came as my caddy. He ended up playing with me because just like can Eddie please play? And they were like yeah, and I appreciate that. Yeah, and so but we met. I met Jim, you were with me, and I was like, Jim Nance, well.

00:13:13
Speaker 2: Well before that happened, do you remember we heard him first, like there were so many people and you can just hear voices, and then you heard, oh that's funny. I was there one day and.

00:13:23
Speaker 1: That chicken was delightful, and then we didn't hear that other like, is that Jim Nance And he walks up and he wasn't with but he knew Charles Kelly, the lead singer of Lady A, who we were talking to, yes, And so we're all just standing there talking and it's like Jim Nance and Charles Kelly and me and you and I'm not saying much and you're saying nothing because we both feel like we're somewhere we shouldn't be anyway. And Jim Nant's super cool. He says, hey, I live in Nashville part of the year or two, and that I'm just him finding something in common, right, which is a nice thing that people do. And so I go out and I'm playing in the par three for those that are watching. Every once in a while, somebody considers me a celebrity every great once in a while, and this was one of those instances. And so I was doing the celebrity part three the day before the pro am tournament and jim Nantz was calling it, and so I'm up and everybody's around and dude, and I'm not a good golfer. I nail it. I win my group. Jim Nantz is calling it. And so then afterward I was talking with jim Nantz and he was like cool, cool, and he's like, I'll be in Nashville and he gives me a cell phone number. I'm never gonna call him, right, So all good. We're doing a bit you and I are about how jim Nance was not allowed him to a certain country club in Nashville, and I said, these people aren't allowing jim Nantz in this country club. They're making him get on a wait list. That's like the YMCA not letting Kobe Bryant hop in a pickup game. Like what are you thinking? This is the guy. He heard that and texted me. He's like, that's the funniest thing ever heard. So we becoind of, like you know, semi kind of friends. You're right, that's a good pick because jim Nance to me, even when we didn't kind of know him, he was he's been awesome. Well that makes me feel better about my pick. I love jim Nantz, man, I just I'm too scared to message him.

00:15:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder like when someone gives you their number, like are they expecting a text?

00:15:16
Speaker 1: Are they expecting If they're expecting it from me, they ain't gonna get it. Because I also have Mark Grace's cell phone number?

00:15:22
Speaker 3: Have you?

00:15:23
Speaker 1: Mark Grace is my favorite baseball player growing up, the one that it was like my idol. I just will not text him, so what a shame? I know. My third pick Steve Crell. Oh, that's a good one, such a good one. My fourth pick though, was I mean, I was neck and neck with Steve cro on the I'll tell you the other one was in the second. Steve Carell just seems like an awesome dude. Yeah, Like, I don't know what else I can say. He's done many roles that I love, but he just seems like an awesome guy. He has like a bookstore and Rhode Island, and I could be wrong about the state sounds so cool. Though. Everybody talks so lovingly of Steve Carell. All the people in the office love each other so much, and they even though Steve Carell left early to go do his thing and movies, they all were like, we miss Steve so much.

00:16:11
Speaker 3: Mike.

00:16:11
Speaker 1: What do you say about the bookstore Massachusetts?

00:16:13
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:16:13
Speaker 1: Class so close close, they get it. They get to my train for the neighboring state. Yeah, well he is OK. So I go Steve Carell at I bet you he's awesome. Yeah, I don't know him, but if I did, I'd probably be like, Eddie, you got to come meet with my friend Steve. He's awesome. That's awesome. Okay, give me a couple of honorable mentions. Okay.

00:16:32
Speaker 2: I have Ken Young, which I think he's so funny. That's very funny, and he was he's a real doctor, right, and so anytime I see him, and it's not like he's a funny guy where he tries to be funny. It's just the things he says that are really funny.

00:16:44
Speaker 1: I like. I like him. Never met him.

00:16:46
Speaker 2: Here's one that we've met before, but honestly, if like we were, if it.

00:16:52
Speaker 1: Was just me and him and he saw me, he wouldn't like remember me it is. It's Blake Shelton.

00:16:58
Speaker 2: I think me and Blake, and we've seen him many time, but I think Blake and I could be really good friend.

00:17:02
Speaker 1: Blake's a really nice guy. I say that to somebody who knows him, knows him. Blake's awesome. Like I could see us just hanging out and being real friends if we just had that opportunity. You're sounding like everybody with the person that they love as a celebrity man Drake if he just knew who I was, Drake Man would like be hanging out and be like, man do Kendrick and I if he just knew like the type of person I was.

00:17:23
Speaker 2: Because Blake comes in the studio, you know, and like we sometimes like I'll say something, he looks at me and that's it. But that's then he leaves. And I think if he took the time to know who I was, he'd like me too.

00:17:35
Speaker 1: That's kind of psychostalker call, but I still agree with you. They I'm gonna give you my three. This one was almost my top three though. It was either Steve Carl or Tina Fey. Oh oh those are really like Yeah, Tina Face is hard for me to pick. I think Tina Face just delightful, so smart, so funny. She seems so kind that people really talk lovingly of her. That's how you can really tell too other people, but you're not.

00:18:04
Speaker 2: I worry about these comedians though, and not worry about them, but I worry about being friends with these comedians or.

00:18:09
Speaker 1: Wanted They're not going to be funny all the time. Yeah, And then you're just like, well, what's that other personality that we don't know. Okay, can I give you a jerk a very watered down example. Yeah, I go places and people expect me to be mistered, life of the party, say funny stuff. I have so many stories, Hey, tell all these stories at dinner. Am I like that at all? No? No, if I need to be, absolutely but there's like a gear for that. And they all have the same gears, I'm sure. And I bet you that when they're on, they're freaking a plus. Like if they're they're comfortable with their own friends. Yeah, I don't think she's like murdering cats or anything.

00:18:46
Speaker 2: No, not that, but it's like it's like Robin Williams, like he was so funny, but man, they were.

00:18:51
Speaker 1: Just I think that's I think that's a different type of person. Okay, Like rob Williams was, like I think he was on all the time. Yeah, and he lived. Maybe not, but also it could be, you know, some bipolar type situation, not a disorder. But I'm so introverted until it's time to be an extrovert, and I'm then I'm so extroverted. Like here I am. I demand attention. If you don't give it to me, I'm gonna cry. And be sad. Yeah. And it's the other way. It's like I don't want attention. If you give it to me right now, I'm going to cry and be sad.

00:19:18
Speaker 2: Do you think there are there are these these artists, artists like you know, creatives that are the same, yes, on and off, Yes, always, yes, I know some that's cool.

00:19:28
Speaker 3: See.

00:19:29
Speaker 1: I feel like Kelly Clarkson is a really good example of that. I don't think she's as large because you don't have to be, but I think she Yeah, I think she's just kind all the time. Uh, Tina Fey made my list of it almost always made the real list, but honorable mentions. I have John Krazinski on there. It could be just because I love the Office.

00:19:45
Speaker 2: I could be he could be your your Ryan Goslin. Yeah, but I and he's also like.

00:19:53
Speaker 1: I gotta do your thing for a second. I gotta do your thing for a second. He also like is really good and like muscle Rolls too. He can play you know, Jim Howpard. He was the nerd Yeah, and then he was what is he Amazon? He's doing that? He's like what's fighting in Wars? And Iran? He's the one name Jack Jack with Jack Ryan Jack Ryan. Yeah, yeah, I think he's my Ryan Gosling. We have crushes on. Now, then I say that, and then if I'm not going to steal yours, which is Tom Hanks.

00:20:21
Speaker 2: See, I love Tom Hanks like I love Tom Hanks, and I've always wanted to meet Tom Hanks. He's my favorite actor in the whole wide world. But there was a video I saw where these like cameras got in their way and I think like they maybe he fell over or maybe his wife fell over a camera person, and then he just snapped. And not to say that people can't be normal, but when he snapped like that, it ruined every single thought I had about Tom Hanks.

00:20:47
Speaker 1: I don't judge person on their worst. I know that weakest moment, you know, I know that.

00:20:50
Speaker 2: But if they did that around all these cameras, then what do they do when they're no cameras around?

00:20:55
Speaker 1: But I think they're probably comfortalling all the cameras because they're there all the time. I'm not I'm not standing. I'm all good. Okay, thank you everybody. Now let's go over to Joel Mchill. You know him from hosting The Soup for over a decade. Animal Control on Fox hosting House of Villains and the game show The One Percent Club. He would have made my list of somebody that I don't know that I love and I think would be awesome. He also started in Scream seven, The Bear Yellowjackets, Ted Blended even hosted The SP's and The White House Correspondence Dinner. Here he is somebody who I think is awesome. Joel McHale, Hang tight, The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to the Bobby Cast. And now we're going to go to one of the most likable people on television, Joel McHale. He just seems like a good dude. He's funny, and he's my next guest.

00:21:48
Speaker 3: Here.

00:21:48
Speaker 1: You know him from hosting The Soup for over a decade, Animal Control on Fox, which season five is coming and the finale is coming up April twenty third, hosting House of Villains, the game show, The One Percent Club, The Bear Yellow Jackets, Ted Blended even hosted The SP's and The White House Correspondence dinner. And he is one of the most likable people on television. Here he is Joel McHale. Hey, Joe, good to see you man.

00:22:11
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Nice to be on.

00:22:13
Speaker 1: How are you doing really good? We were just talking about campaign donations. If you wanted to hop into that conversation.

00:22:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, money, what let's let's do it. I'm contributing to the Whig Party this year.

00:22:26
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know they've been out of they've been out of touch for a while. I feel like they don't really relate to anything we're going through now.

00:22:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a big comeback. And you know, since I had hair transplants, I get it that they're they haven't you know, had been very relevant. But I'm gonna I think we should make a comeback.

00:22:42
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you're missing that too. But that's okay, that's not what we're here to talk about. No, we were just talking about how like there's been a couple of campaigns I've contributed to it. I just get so many texts that I start hating the person that i've I've contributed to because they won't stop texting me and emailing me. Uh.

00:22:57
Speaker 3: And that is one of those things where I think all voters of all parties can agree and they they have the power to stop those texts. Our government and they're like, yeah, but we don't. And yes, I always push stop and then delete and uh, yeah, I can't. Yes, But then I'm like, well, maybe maybe I should send one out and raise some money for something that I want.

00:23:26
Speaker 1: The Whig Party, which you are now going ahead in a front. Okay, I got so many things talked to you about number one. I was watching some house villains as far because I know and this is not just thank you, well hold on, this is not just like pro show promo, which is why you're on. But I've got questions and I know you'll tell me real answers. Are these people that we have been conditioned to know as kind of either mean or douchebag or out of touch. What's the percentage of them playing a character on television and they're actually kind of nice?

00:23:58
Speaker 3: I would say the majority definitely, like ninety nine percent are nice, Like they're cool, and we we only had like there's only been a not really there hasn't been like any actual fistfights or anything like that. And then I think one time we had a contestant like I'm not coming out of my room and I was like, give me a break, why are you here? And I was like you're not. I was like, unless you're being truly just being truly villainous that you're not going to actually participate. But then they came right out. But for the most part from just interacting like they're pretty cool and uh, you know for the villain part there, they turn it. They definitely turn it. I mean I was like, this is where you know, this is a show, everything is on camera, turn it on and here we go. And so it's definitely a heightened version of them, and I guess it's a heightened version of me. But I was like, this is your chance to really let it fly and and let that stuff go, and you could win a bunch of money. So I'm and as you know, I mean, as you have seen probably like the show is silly, so that's what we you know, it's a lot of jokes, so we that's yeah, that's what I enjoy. And we tell them like, this is all going to be ridiculous. It's still a competition and all that stuff, but it's going to be wonderfully ridiculous, hopefully.

00:25:20
Speaker 1: I wonder about people on shows because I've done a couple of shows where they can't really edit you to do anything you didn't do, but they can edit things that you've done and I wonder how many of these villain quote characters and it could be people that are on the show now, or it could be like a famous one like Amurosa way back on The Apprentice, Like there are famous villains that the producers convinced them to do that, and if there was later a regret, or if they're so self aware that they knew what they were doing and they just knew that was probably the way to get famous.

00:25:52
Speaker 3: I think it's a combination of all those things. And you know, if it's something like if something like the I think I'm speaking on behalf of the Bachelor producers where there's no prize, right, I mean the prize. It's a dating game and it's an unhinged dating game, but it's a dating game and there's no actual money, right, so on, But when you're giving away real money, the game show police are not joking around, and because of that whole quiz show scandal way back when where that great Ray Fines movie was made about it. But when they're like, so are like the producers want you to like, we want people to be into the games and particise. Obviously, we want them to participate in the competition, but like when it comes to the when it's real money, we can't, you know, we can't really tell them to do certain things. So because the prize is like two or grand so which is a lot of money. And so yeah, well in those situations you can't influence. And I'll have I have a your wig in that. They say you can't lead anybody, you can't tell them what to do and stuff like that. So it's yeah, so that all the games are pretested.

00:27:07
Speaker 1: I learned that whatever I did dancing with the Stars, that they really could not help us. Or even when I was because I did an American Idol for four years, we could give nobody anything. It was like second grade. If you bring candy for one kid, you got to bring it for everybody. Like we had to make sure because there was money, record deals, or when I was competing dancing, they could give us nothing that everybody else didn't get. And they were so stringent about it.

00:27:31
Speaker 3: They're the game show police, are they They know all the rules of it seemed like all the rules of life. Like they like they are good at enforcing these crazy rules. I mean, God bless them, because they I would I would be like, here, just take just everyone, let's just all share, let's go. But yeah, they're they're not. Did you ever see that movie Quiz Show Wave?

00:27:56
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I Gotta Find a Million Bucks by the SEC a few years ago, and so I learned, like I've not only seen the movie and understood it, I have a relationship with the FCC now that I don't love. So I'm very familiar with how that world works.

00:28:10
Speaker 3: You were fined a million dollars.

00:28:11
Speaker 1: I was, yes, what did you do?

00:28:14
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that I don't know.

00:28:16
Speaker 1: No, it's okay. It's not something that I talk about a lot, but I'm happy to share. No, No, I'm not scared of it. I've already been through all the court proceedings and all the money's been paid, So I'm all good. But so one of my jobs I do a nationally syndicated radio show. And so I was doing some stand up in Dallas, and I was working from a studio down there, and it was the night of the World Series and the Nationals were playing in the World Series. I'm a big sports guy, and so there was a home run hit during one of the games, and as the ball was traveling out of the stadium, they tested the EAS alert. They literally tested it as a home run was being hit. So imagine you're watching the World Series and it's like, all right, going, going, this is a test or the and I couldn't believe that that's when they tested it. So I'm on the air. It was a really stupid bit. I went over to YouTube and I grabbed a clip that was readily available on YouTube, and I just started doing other famous moments interrupted by the EAS practice alert. So I was like, one small step for me, this is a test of the EAS or four score and seven. Okay, dumb bit, kind of funny, Move on with the day. Apparently, the sound that I had taken was an active EAS tone that locked up multiple cities. So radio stations all over the country had now fired off the alert. Att TV had locked up. What I didn't know is I that I had taken control of all these radio stations, and I didn't know that there was a tone at the end that releases them. So they all stayed locked up for eight hours because I never released the tone. So I got fined a million bucks. Good lord, yeah, tell me about it.

00:30:00
Speaker 3: I didn't even I don't even know that that is, I don't even think, good lord, that were you ever told about that early in broadcasting? Another way, this certain tone is going to unlock the Jason Bourne deploy the asset into the field if they just hear a weird noise.

00:30:21
Speaker 1: Not only did they not teach me about that, I took it from a public site, like hide that thing, like I don't know, you don't just walk around with the codes of the football, you know, for the nuclear like hide that stuff that matters. But yeah, yeah, so I was very familiar with with how the FCC and how the quiz show finds work.

00:30:40
Speaker 3: Wait, if I played that tone on on our broadcast right now, then we could be not that I'm going, but we could be fined.

00:30:48
Speaker 1: No, because they changed them every year or two and then two. This was on a broadcast. I was on like two two hundred cities at the same time, and I fired that thing off through towers I didn't know. And so yeah, life sucked for a life sucked for a little bit. There.

00:31:06
Speaker 3: I got this friend, his old comedian friend from the night. He used to do radio for years and years and years. Whenever there would be a home run call and he was running the board, he would always insert other sound effects that people that he would put in cows and machine guns and World War two airplane sounds like that's bye bye baseball and never never address it.

00:31:36
Speaker 1: See that's the stuff. I think it's funny right there, like retro shout out to your buddy who used to do.

00:31:41
Speaker 3: That, Pat Cashman. Pat Cashman who was the voice of Bill Ny the science guy way back when.

00:31:46
Speaker 1: Give me the voice of the television show. Like talking into that voice.

00:31:50
Speaker 3: He'd be like, oh Bill, Bill, now this song is good. Yeah.

00:31:54
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of friends. I live in Nashville, and so I have a bunch of friends that are in the country music industry. And they played sports at a high level and during sports at a high level, which they played, but a lot of them did not start as quarterback or as running back, but they had a position on the team. But they took up music and they would start to play music while they were doing whatever sport it is. Mostly it was football, sometimes it was baseball. When did you start doing and being funny to where you thought you could do it? Was it while you were playing sports?

00:32:26
Speaker 3: Oh no, it Well, thank you for saying that, because there's a lot of people that to this day disagree that I've ever told a funny joke, but that shows my defensecurity. No, it was I think, boy, I was such a bad student and the only thing I was good at was sports, and then I would do a school play and I was like, Oh, this is super fun and this is great, and that's kind of how I escaped being I also got held back, so I was embarrassed about that. So I just overcompensated by telling jokes and throwing and chasing balls everywhere, because that's yeah, I'm like a basically a large golden retriever. So I think the first the first time I was ever on stage was when I was a first grader and I did a staged version of It's a Small World, the Ride from Disney. This was at a public school, which there's an actual play out there of that ride all World, and I played all the little parts I play, and and that was yeah, that was That was when I was like, oh, this is this seems like this seems like so much fun, and so I was like, I'm gonna It wasn't basically until seventh grade that I was like I'm going to try and do this and tell somebody stops me. And I just yeah, I just was like, I can't. I don't want a real job.

00:34:07
Speaker 1: What kind of numbers did you put up as a high school ball player?

00:34:10
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm I was really I walked on well when I went when I played played college football, I walked onto the team and I had only played freshman year because I quit to be in plays, so walking on. I was recruited to row at the University of Washington, and that didn't go great because the university at that point, the University of Washington at the rowing team had tons of hazing. I mean, this is a long time I know, I'm backing into this a very strange way, but they I quit the team because the senior rowers surrounded another freshman and I and began to hit us. So eleven on two really great. And they had all these crazy rituals, which they've now gotten rid of, thankfully, like they would shave everybody's hair and eyebrows off and put their hair into a pillow. Yes, I know what I'm saying. All sounds very strange. And then there was a display case of the hair pillows like a freaking serial killer. So then I knew a few guys on the football team, Damon Heward, Mark Brunner, and I was like, or I knew Mark afterwards, but like Damon was and Ernie Conwell were in my fraternity, also a short lived place for me, but I ended up being friends with those guys and then I was like, I'm gonna come out with football and they're like, all right. And so I played for two years and didn't really did not know what I was doing that first year, and then the second year they red shirted me, and then then I left to go do theater. So it was all very So I looked really good in that photo, both photo, but but I actually never played in a game, and so that's why I was. I was. I've always always referred to myself as the greatest practicer of all time.

00:36:12
Speaker 1: It's wild that you really didn't play in high school. I worked for the NFL and I do a show with Matt Castle, who played for USC but he never started in call, not a single game, and he went to the NFL and he had a pretty good career in the NFL. But that your story is crazier of not playing in high school at all, and then you end up walking on because they don't just let.

00:36:30
Speaker 3: You freshman year. Freshman year I played, which but that rushman.

00:36:33
Speaker 1: Year that doesn't count. That's ninth grade. That's like three years since you go into college. Like that's that's wild.

00:36:40
Speaker 3: It was not smart.

00:36:43
Speaker 1: Uh.

00:36:44
Speaker 3: And my the the tight end coach was like, I'm he was very confused, and he was like, I'm not going to put you in because I think you're gonna get killed. Uh. And so then I began practicing a lot, and I knew I was getting better. I wasn't great at all, but but then they began putting me in like spring games and stuff, and that was super fun. And I mean those guys were you know, they're the best of their entire like they're the best in their high school ever. And so I was just trying to avoid getting killed, which was a really good motivator. But I was like, I'm a good athlete and so like I was good on the basketball team and stuff like that. But yeah, no, it's not. It's not a recommended journey to to athletic greatness, but boy it it was. It really taught me. I know the sound now, but it taught me. I was like, oh, these guys are working harder than anybody I know. I was like, these guys are this is a full time job what these guys are doing, and it is dangerous and uh so when you know, players started getting paid, I was like, great, Yeah, these guys are building this school and so yeah, that's a long it's a long my long, meandering explanations, but yeah it who would Yeah, I look back on her now, I'm like, you were insane and yeah, so it's crazy.

00:38:13
Speaker 1: Whenever you moved down to Los Angeles, did you finish school and then move and and and did you do the whole thing when you can find a crappy apartment start from the ground up.

00:38:21
Speaker 3: Well, I was very lucky because I got onto well I married well, now it's sketch. I married my wife, Sarah, and she was very I was before I was ever on TV, and I got onto a TV show in the nineties called Almost Live, which is where Bill Nye started and where it was this. It was syndicated on Comedy Central. John Keister was the host of it, and it was a it was an odd thing. It was an odd There was like nothing else in the nation like it. It was a locally produced sketch comedy show on the NBC affiliate and we would push sat it out live to twelve oh five because it was taped for from the East Coast obviously, so we had this these huge numbers. So it was like this big hit in Seattle and nowhere else. And I got on that show, and so I was so lucky. And then so I left that show, went to graduate school for acting at the University of Washington, go Dogs. And then I had to make a decision in two thousand with to go to LA or New York. And I decided on LA just because I really knew I wanted to be on TV and be in movies if I could. And my wife supported me, and so we got this apartment and I had no job, and she worked in graphic design, and you know, it was like two for four years. Later the soup finally well that finally, but the soup got on and then about five years a year after that, it started really working. So I got really lucky. I got lucky that I got on TV, but I had, you know, my wife supported me through all of that, so she I, yeah, I mean every she's she's very patient. And now because I was five, I guess I said, just give me five years in LA to see if I can make it work, and if not, then I'll go back to We'll go back to Seattle and I'll you know, I don't know what I'll do, but I'll figure it out.

00:40:30
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00:40:44
Speaker 1: A lot of artists when they move here to Nashville, they do have those years where they're trying to figure it out and they're meeting their people and yeah kind of understanding, they're doing songwriting nights, and like what is that for an actor when they moved to LA, Like those four years, what are you doing in order to find your place.

00:41:02
Speaker 3: There? Unit? I mean obviously, you know, like there's no the paths are all crazy, and I couldn't the path to get to some kind of like oh it's working, it's successful, and is all over the map. So I joined a couple of theater groups and was like, I just want to work, I just want to perform. So I had joined this theater group called Circle X, which is a bunch of actors from Seattle, and it was avant garde theater. To like, they were like, we're only doing crazy plays. So I was doing some insane plays down here, and I was doing improv at a couple different places, including Improv Olympic with a guy named Sten Nickerson and Rugan Burns, and then I joined ACME Theater. So I was doing everything I could, and it's the thing where you're like, if I can just to perform a little and get out there, and I couldn't get an agent. So I finally got a commercial agent AKA and they took They were like, they almost didn't take me. And I'm like, had all this tape from Seattle, and they like, it doesn't matter here. And I couldn't get an agent, and but this commercial agency, God bless them. I began doing commercials and I thought, I'm thirty three and I can't get an audition. And I was like and I was like, I'll just be the greatest commercial actor of all time. And that's so I'm like, I'm gonna do that until somebody stops me. And it wasn't until after the Soup really that I got an agent. I was already on TV one. I finally signed with an agency. There was an agent that I signed with that they dropped me right after there. So I got down here to la we'll call down here because and immediately, very luckily got on the show. And then this sounds different than what but I got. My friend got me an audition for Will and Grace. But you had to be over six seven and I'm like six three six' four depends on what the humidity humidity, Is AND i wore heels to this. AUDITION i literally went to the like to a motorcycle boot shop and bought huge heeled boots AND i, THOUGHT i Think i'm gonna be the funniest guy over six', eight HERE and i got this. Little part, it worked and that's WHEN so, i Signed like i've got an agent, through that and they immediately dropped me because THEY said i wasn't. Working enough so then finally the souper start working four years later and, uh YEAH Then i i'm what was called hip pocketed at an agent's see where they this my FRIEND who i went to high, school with he's like he was an, agent there and, he's, LIKE look i cannot sign you because no one's going to be excited about. You Here so i'm going to send you auditions here and THERE if, I can and so. That work that ultimately WORKED and. I WENT so i was paying this agency EVEN though i was not signed, With them and so they took me to lunch to sign me a year after the soup was already on and so to make up for THE commission i was already, PAYING them i just started buying things on the MENU and i bought an eight pound LOBSTER and I think i bought like two bottles of wine. To GO so i, was, like this this makes up For what i've been paying. You guys, but anyway that was it's hard to well NOW when i, Look back, i'm like, good lord that was twenty. Years AGO like i DIDN'T have i have a twenty one year old and a seventeen, year Old and, i'm like where did the? Time go? What happened how did the suit? Come?

00:45:00
Speaker 1: Together then how did it come about if you didn't have an agent pointing you in? A, DIRECTION.

00:45:05
Speaker 3: Well i had this commercial agent and they were getting me out TO like I Did burger, KING ads i did a, McDonald's ad i did a bunch of bunch of spots for a million, different things and that. Was working but they this Woman Named annie roberts who WORKED At e she would see actors in commercials and then she would be like she would contact my like my commercial agent and, be like can you bring in these six actors and we're going to have them do talking head stuff For like e's ease one hundred and one. Nightclub whoopsies and they'd, be LIKE here's i, Don't know. I'm here here's a bono coming out of a Club In, new york his. Shirts untucked make. A COMMENT and i started doing stuff like that, and that and then and then there Was a it Wasn't Called the soup when, it started but they, were like we want to do a show about make fun of, reality shows and we want to do something, like that But Not the Soup Because talk soup was had been canceled. By then and then we so this show was Called the What. The, awards yes it's the worst title for a show you've, ever heard because it was supposed to be What the hell Or the What The, fuck awards and they dropped that, word out but it Didn't make when you would hear, the title you'd, be like what, the wait what? Is it And uh so then the new president, Came In, ted harbert and he, was like what what is the title of, this show and so we had been on the air for a few months and he came in changed the name and at, that point you. YOU young i know that you're younger, than me uh, much younger but that's we. Were on they put Us on, SATURDAY nights, i mean, Excuse me friday nights at ten when nobody WAS, watching tv no one was, watching cable and we just slowly watered that little piece of the garden we had and it. Started WORKING and i think it was BECAUSE of, i mean there's a lot, of reasons But Like, julia Roberts whom i've never met in. My life IN an, e interview this reporter came up to ME at e, and, Said Hey julia roberts told me that she watches your show, every week But don't she, was like she said, it offhandedly like after, the interview and she, was, LIKE oh i. WATCHED that i watched that soup SHOW and i think they, heard that and, we're, Like Fuck, julia roberts watch. It great And then i've never. MET her i Don't, so julia if you're out, there listening if you're out, there watching, thank you thank you. So MUCH and i would love to do a Sequel to My Best friend's wedding or.

00:47:46
Speaker 1: Whichever one was there a point where you started to get recognized a little bit where you started to realize there was some. Traction, happening, yeah yeah it took A little there was a COUPLE of.

00:47:58
Speaker 3: Tv WRITERS but I remember i was at A restaurant aroma Here In. STUDIO city i was sitting at a TABLE and i remember hearing a, person, go hey we got a clip on. The soup so it was clearly the producer of some reality show or news or like whatever we were and they, were, like hey we got on. The SOUP and i was, like, what what? What's happening so that was. Pretty good AND then i did an event like it. Was WORKING but i was at an Event That elvis costello was At and i'm A Gigantic elvis, costello fan and he, was, like oh you're the guy that tells the JOKES and i, was, like, oh yeah. That's, me, YEAH yeah i just got Recognized By. ELVIS costello i can't. Believe it so. That's yeah there, was, slowly slowly. But. Sure yeah it was good because it was never a hit out of The like i've. Never like community was not a hit out of. The box soup was not. A hit i've never been on anything that, like that LIKE a tv show where it, was, like Oh, you're Glee Your, Modern family you're. It is you are a bona fide hit out of the gate and this is. Going Forever uh, so Yeah my catholic guilty upbringing stop me from being in anything.

00:49:32
Speaker 1: Like that will there ever be a? Community movie yeah yeah at.

00:49:40
Speaker 3: Some, point yeah we have. The money uh and so, IT'S uh i know that now people don't believe anything when they when they ask, it now but it we have all agreed and we all it is going to happen if all the schedules. LINE up i swear to you, canmmunity fans and everyone wants to. Do it so, WE'RE yeah I mean i MIGHT be I mean i might be too old to, do it but, that's fine. THAT'S fine I can i'll, find uh we'll get somebody to.

00:50:12
Speaker 1: Play me the season Finale of Animal controls april, twenty third and it was just announce it's renewed for. Another season so that's is that your fifth. Seasons coming that's a. Long, Run, NOW.

00:50:22
Speaker 3: Yeah i can't believe it on A network i, can't like you, know everything the whole model, Has changed so Thank, you fox and, uh yeah it was a little show. That could and the, FIRST season i think the numbers, were okay and then and then they hung in there with it and it's then it's now it's doing, pretty Well and, i'm like. Thank god, so yeah it's same Thing with That's how community. Was like the first season, Was, like okay that's. Pretty good it's, doing okay and we just slowly but surely wore wore people down and got them to.

00:50:59
Speaker 1: Watch it can you tell by who's coming up to you what they know you from before they tell you what they know?

00:51:04
Speaker 3: You, from yes you can tell by. The age give me a. Few differences women in their forties and fifties remember me from, The soup and when young kids walk up, TO me i, was, like oh this Is a. Community fan and then, they'll, go now now you were shaggy Right In, scooby DOO and i, was Like That's. Matthew lillard, And ironically MATTHEW and i were just in a, movie together, so uh scream seven go see. It guys, BUT yeah i used To tell matthew knew. THE bit i used, to do BECAUSE when i get on these, red carpets the photographers for early on would be like who? Are you And then i'd Be Like. Matthew lillard AND then i started populating, my picture started going On his gaddy images all, the time and we do like when we're standing next to, each other pretty similar looking on the same height, and YEAH so i still do that bit and, he's, like bro, SO yeah i just, it's yeah when did you start? GETTING recognized.

00:52:14
Speaker 1: I could. Always tell if it, was family like a mom and, a kid it Was From american IDOL because i did four Years On. American idol if it was an, older woman it Was from dancing With the STARS when i did. That show if it was a female twenty four, to forty it would be from radio podcast one of the. Two uh and if it was a rarely. A DUDE but i work FOR the nfl, As well But sometimes i'll get a dude that just knows me as the guy that Works With, matt castle, the quarterback so they don't even. Really know i'm just that guy. That, worked hey you're the guy that Works With, matt Castle and i'm LIKE that.

00:52:49
Speaker 3: I am if you take off your glasses like have you've been in a place where like, you like because your glasses are very like distinct, to you will people not recognize you if you're not wearing.

00:53:02
Speaker 1: The glasses usually it's Are You? Matthew LILLARD and, i, SAY yes, i am and that is.

00:53:08
Speaker 3: That's by, You know, chrismin's class He PLAYED McLevin, i, do. Yeah YEAH he i did a show with him ten. Years ago and he has become close friends with a WRITER that i, Work With boyd viko EVERY time i can work with Him And brad stevens's partner and we're working they're Working On animal control And On One percent club And and House, of villains But they. Christmin's plass he's obviously. Very recognizable and they were in a casino together and it was kind. Of apt it was pretty Recently and chris was wearing. A mask Uh and boyd, was like how come are you seeing what's? Going on he was like either in? This casino, he, goes well, you'll see and he took his mask off in this casino and he was there was like this radar win up people they all Had the michlove and license in their wallets and he was like see and it became, a signing and.

00:54:14
Speaker 1: THAT'S funny I Love One. PERCENT club i love GAME like i love, competition SHOWS but i love like like logic, puzzle shows like that's fun and that looks like it'd be a fun show. To host can you not go? Those out in a couple, of weeks we.

00:54:27
Speaker 3: Did two shows a day and it's in. THREE show, i mean it's not Like like Wheel of fortune they can crank out like five a day, because uh, you know because it's, pretty well it's. Pretty Contained But One percent club is one hundred contestants, each show so that's that's where the challenge, comes in is bringing all those people in. At once and but the but it goes pretty quick once the game. Gets going and like as you as we've already, talked about the game show police are very strict on like the time you get, thirty seconds. That's it you get to figure out. The puzzle and half, THE time, I mean i'm my wife's really good at puzzles, like that and so is one of, my SONS and i. Am terrible so you don't get. To see they don't usually include the Parts where, i'm like don't listen. To me i'm gonna screw up. The words just read the puzzle and you'll you'll just, do that don't listen. To me and so they don't really include. That stuff but uh, but yeah those they're super hard, and yeah. It's fun it's a really fun show. To do and it's. Those folks they're so quick and IT like i, was, like oh you guys have. Different. BRAINS this i have A crazy adhd silly brain and you guys have you guys can build. A bridge you guys can actually get.

00:55:49
Speaker 1: A final question. For you as far as other celebrities that are really funny when they're not, On, camera like who's? Really funny that's a celebrity that's funny all, the time no matter where you.

00:56:02
Speaker 3: SEE him, i, think well this is uh THIS that i think this is A good this is a. Good. One uh i'm trying to think of someone who's on a, Uh boy i'm really taking. My TIME i'm, I mean, i mean he's already. Really funny i'm trying to think of as somebody who you would not expect. To, be uh this is a. Good one Here's what. I'll, say, oh yeah well this is everyone knows. He's FUNNY but i don't think. THE scope, i mean obviously his talent is world world, class talent. Generational Talent But donald glover is the funniest guy. You like he, he's childish, gambido man and so he's got this whole other part of his brain where he is a musical genius and. Incredible singer he but obviously he got his start while HE was nyu and he started writing For thirty rock while he was still like a ra in, a DORM and i the scope of, His ability like he was always the funniest one. On set who?

00:57:25
Speaker 1: Are you who are you? Gonna say but you pulled back because they're.

00:57:27
Speaker 3: Already, FUNNY oh i was gonna, be, like well Someone Like john Oliver or Conan or Seth. Or kimmel they're so funny, in person like they're, so good, and uh, they're not and. They're not they're not guys that are Always ON and, i mean obviously they host shows where they are funny and, they're them but it always kind of tastes my. Breath away, i'm like, good lord how do they?

00:57:55
Speaker 1: Do It The animal control finale's ample twenty, third again congrats on the New season House of Villains.

00:58:01
Speaker 3: Percent club comes Out. In, April hey.

00:58:03
Speaker 1: APRIL thirteenth i got. A, List hey i'm going down the list, right now, hold on Hold Your House Villains finales, april sixteenth And The One Percent club, april thirteenth ALL those i. Got, there see you just got to give me a second, little patience he shows. My, Insecurity, yeah joe really appreciate, the time. BIG fan i hope you have a great rest of. The day thank you.

00:58:25
Speaker 3: So much thanks for. Having me and what's the best Restaurant in NASHVILLE that i should?

00:58:30
Speaker 1: Go, to yeah it's tough because people that Come to nashville they want to do like southern and then when you Live, in nashville like that's. Normal food AND if i tell You an italian PLACE that i really Like, called luogo you'd, be like there's A good Italian. In nashville BUT then i would have to ADMIT that i, own it And then i'd have to, be, like WELL then i lied to you and told you it was good ONLY because i. Own It, so loogo.

00:58:53
Speaker 3: Go To, Little, Wall okay That's where i'm.

00:58:55
Speaker 1: Gonna go that's it, All, Right, hey joe good to, see, You man, Thank.

00:58:58
Speaker 3: You thank you for having me.

00:59:00
Speaker 1: This has Been a bobby. Cast production

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