2024 Week 5 Recap

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Speaker 1: How the Ravens take possession at their forty three with four twenty six left to play. Quick toss. Henry running to the left side, gets a block. He' said Midfieldi's rolling forty thirty leg race twenty.

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Speaker 2: The King is on his feet.

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Speaker 1: Cun how he pick it up a six yard line. Derreck Henry has put the Ravens in potition. Wrap it up.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and wrap it up they did. Ravens get the win in Cincinnati, forty one to thirty eight in overtime.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to NFL Daily, starting off strong with one of the best games of the year. I'm Greg Rosenthal in the Chris Wesseleing podcast studio with Patrick Clavn Nick Ship joining us from Ohio. And yes, that was Jerry Sandusky on wb a L. It was back and forth, but they gave Lamar and Derreck Henry one more chance.

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Speaker 5: You don't do that, Patrick claybo.

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Speaker 6: It was Lamar that actually had the fun.

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Speaker 7: That was tough for him to celebrate after the game because they're on a drive with an opportunity to win. He's clapping as the clock winds down. The ball bounces off of his hands. He forces a fumble Cincinnati recovers it again, but there's just some chicanery with the clock management and the play management. Zach Taylor elects to run the ball three consecutive times. Evan McPherson comes out, there's a bad hold on the kick, and the Ravens get another chance, which is something that I did not think they would do.

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Speaker 6: The drive summary late in this game.

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Speaker 7: Yes, second half drive summary for both teams touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, interception, touchdown.

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Speaker 6: That's how it was.

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Speaker 7: That was the kind of game, and I did not think Baltimore would get a stop. But that interception is Marlon Humphrey, who was in the wrong place at the wrong time for most of this entire game, finally taking a guess on a shot and picking off Joe Burrow ultimately give him a chance to win this game.

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Speaker 4: It's why I wanted to start with this game, not just because it puts you know, what is potentially a Super Bowl contender in Cincinnati at one and four and really put some win in the sales of the Ravens, but that it exemplifies this week's games. I think this was the best week of football that we had. We're going to get to a lot of really fun, tight games throughout the day, and it kind of reminded me of the Thursday Night game too. Yes, it's offense, offense, offense, offense, Patrick, but it ended in part because Joe Burrow throws a crucial interception that gives the Ravens an extra possession at the end of regulation. They also pun after getting the ball with a minute and thirty five left and you're thinking they're gonna have a chance, there's the fumble, there's the missfield goal because of the bad snap, and so it was a little bit of everything. It was redemption for Justin Tucker and Nick Shook like I know, they stopped him for a chunk of this game. But man, this Derek Henry Lamar Jackson offense is just a lot to deal with.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a lot to deal with. It's why I picked the Ravens in a high scoring affair. I just didn't think it would be forty one eight stream. But I guess this is the nude age, or at least when you face the Bengals defense. It bumps me out for Joe Burrow that he has to be nearly perfect every week to give his chance he'd give his team a legitimate chance to win, and he throws one interception at the worst time possible, and it's a backbreaker, and it allows the Ravens an opportunity to win the game. Because he's been so good, and you have the Bengals defense has not been anywhere near as good, and going up against a team like the Ravens, number one rushing team in the league, Bengals have a soft front, you knew this was going to happen eventually. I'm surprised that they actually contained him as long as they did before they finally broke through. So the final score, while very high, not too much of a surprise in one of the most thrilling games of the year.

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Speaker 7: And ultimately in that overtime possession where the Ravens fumbled the ball on the snap to Lamar where he's clapping. A couple of plays before that, Derek Henry could have ended this game. There was a run to the right side where Henry almost broke free Hubbard got his ankles. Kind of the story of the game where the highlight that everybody will remember is Lamar stiff arming Hubbard twice on a touchdown pass to Isaiah. Likely, that's gonna be one of those plays that we're going to see a billion time.

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Speaker 4: Oh, let's listen to it right now. I'm sure Sandusky's got a good call on this one. Let's go to it.

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Speaker 1: Labar in the shotgun. Lamar bobbles the snap, have to pick it him off the turf. He's been chased, proud stiff arms a man Damn Hubbard, and finally slings in the back of.

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Speaker 5: The end zone Touchdow.

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Speaker 9: I'm saying likely, Oh my unbelievable. Lamar Jackson bobbled a snap, picked it up off the turf, stiff armed Sam Hubbard a lah Derrick Henry, extended the play, threw back across his body, and hit the tight end. In other words, he did everything wrong for the perfect outcome, which is.

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Speaker 7: The story of the Baltimore Ravens in this particular game where this game has gotten away from them. It's tough to look at the stat line for Jamar Chase, who had ten catches for one hundred and ninety three yards and two touchdowns. There was absolutely a problem on the other side of the ball. Ultimately, the the bounces work out for Baltimore where they hadn't earlier in the season, then they get right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Marcus Williams has been an issue for the Ravens in their secondary this year, just getting burned for big plays. He was flat footed on at least one of those Jamar Chase touchdowns where he takes the short pass for seventy yards. T Higgins, I think has looked really good the last few weeks. He gets two touchdowns nine for eighty three, and yet it hurts that Burrow has such an electric game, but then he has that interception and then he doesn't get a chance at the end. And this stuff is driving me crazy. And I know the kickers are better than they've ever been. We'll get to a few of them that were awesome this week.

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Speaker 7: Glenn Tucker's today right, a driven fifty seven fifty nine yard.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I shouldn't lose that fact that this was a great day for Justin Tucker to get his groove back with that big one to tie it late in regulation. Then of course he hits the short game winner too, which is always a nice feeling. But they on it three straight times and it has given me flashbacks to Marty Schottenheimer and Mike McCarthy and all the coaches that don't trust their quarterback for some.

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Speaker 5: Reason in the biggest of spots.

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Speaker 4: And yet you can say, well, it was more on the the snap, but it's a long kick and either way, just let them go try to win the game on offense, like there was no reason to really worry, but it was maybe in his head that interception that they had. I'm just gonna read like people are very angry in Cincinnati. Our friend the spice Rack sent me a group his group Bengals text and it's it's just got a lot.

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Speaker 5: Of F bombs.

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Speaker 4: I can't even really read it, but every they want everyone fired is basically the the answer that is effing embarrassing, e fing losers, absolute effing losers.

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Speaker 5: F this staff.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, this is kind of where Bengals fans are right now.

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Speaker 6: I've never seen so many sweat words. I love this istually edited. I wish we could show this.

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Speaker 5: Maybe yeah if you watch on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: Maybe after the Factor I'll put it out on social with some with some things blurted out, but prayers to Spice Track. Maybe maybe this is the game though that I thought that the Ravens deserve. I know Bengals fans won't want to hear this, but the Ravens should be three and two.

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Speaker 5: They're a good team.

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Speaker 4: They're the first team nick to rush for more than a thousand yards in the first five games of the season since the six Falcons with Michael Vick and Michael the Berner Turner, and only the second team since eighty four. So they seem perfectly built in twenty twenty four where it's more about running than passing to win. And yet today Lamar you know, throws for a three forty eight and four touchdowns. He gets both his tight ends involved or three tight ends involved, Isaiah likely, Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 5: Goes four to fifty five, and Kohler goes wild.

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Speaker 4: So they have to feel really good about their offense and getting a tough division win.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean, entering the week, the Ravens were in first in rushing yards per game by a marginal more than forty five yards per game. Like that's significant in the league, and it makes you realize that. Then they can go out in Lamark and throw for three forty eight and four touchdowns and you're like, I don't know how to stop this team. This is what makes them so scary. In fact, folks probably look back at their ower and two start and think, God, we should have I wish the cow you know, the Cowboys would have buried them when they had an opportunity, you know, the kind of like where the Bengals are at one and four right now, I wish somebody else would have. The team's on a roll already.

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Speaker 6: Well you know what happened.

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Speaker 7: Now they've they're built to play from behind now, Greg where previously apparently they weren't built to play from behind, but now you know, it's a little roster construction back.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it is good for them actually, because they've given up all those ten point leads. They're not built to play with the lead, and yet they're They're one of the few teams we were thinking like we were a certain team which we'll talk about soon. Patrick and I have put on fraud Watch, and then I was thinking about it. I was like, well, other than like the Vikings and the Ravens, could you could put the whole league on fried Watch right now? But the Ravens are feeling good at three into and yeah, but before we go, let's let's listen to Lamar after the game, because It's always nice to hear a happy Lamar.

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Speaker 10: What are the emotions that you are feeling right now?

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Speaker 11: I'm kind of tipped off, you know, that overtime fumble that limits trying to get the ball from my center.

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Speaker 6: But I even did a great job, you know, stopping those guys.

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Speaker 5: A great office over that great team all around, and who got it done?

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Speaker 6: You know the goat. Shout out to the goat man jt Andy here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they got a lot of potential goats on the same roster there between Tucker and Henry and Lamar Jackson playing the quarterback position as well as anyone in the league. Let's go to Houston, where CJ. Stroud was doing the same for most of Sunday.

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Speaker 5: To give the Texans the victory.

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Speaker 1: Here's the snap by Weeks the spot. Here's the kick by fair Baron has the distance and it's.

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Speaker 5: Gone fair Bear Winton at the buzzer. The Texans beat the Bells nine yards.

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Speaker 1: Put the cub on Htown Day twenty three to twenty.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's Htown Day. Isn't every day h Down Day? Mark VanderMeer from k I L T Kyami fairbearn Yeah, just we got these kickers just hitting old fifty nine yarders like it's nothing. Another controversial end of the game play calling sequence. Zach Taylor taken a lot of heat in Cincinnati for what he did. I think Zach Taylor was a lot more at fault for what happened in the Bengals game than Sean McDermott and the Bills were for what happened at the end of regulation. You look at the drive chart and you see that that fair baron kick came on a two play, five yards seven second drive.

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Speaker 5: Wait, how did that happen?

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Speaker 4: It happened because Josh Allen threw three straight in completions after getting the ball inside of their own ten yard line. It was as clearly the three yard line with thirty two seconds to go. Now, a lot of things happened to set that up. It was a totally boneheaded situation there to recover the ball. You get it at the three yard line, it's thirty two seconds left, but the Texans have three timeouts, and Sean McDermott explains after the game, we know Kyami Fairbairn has that sort of leg, We know that they have all three timeouts. If he could do it again, he says he probably would have run the ball on first down, but I actually agree with them that they were in a very tough spot. They have to get the first down there or else you're in the exact same situation if you ran the ball three straight times. Yes, in theory, you could have made them burn all three timeouts, but they also would have had more time in that in that case than the seven seconds, and you could have very well ended up in the same situation in the end.

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Speaker 5: They have to get the first down.

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Speaker 4: Now, I think you can fall nick what Josh Allen decided to do. Maybe some of the routes that they're throwing that there weren't enough options or weren't enough decisions, throwing the ball short and he's throwing low percentage passes down the field. I got some stats on that that are absolutely crazy. But to me, it was a little bit more about execution that the Bills just couldn't complete a ten yard pass because they were in a very tough spot there. With the field position, I think most likely the Texans are probably going to get the ball in a decent position unless you pick up a first down, and they didn't pick up a first down, so I've killed Sean McDermott over the years for play calling and game management. I actually don't think this is as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.

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Speaker 8: Well, let's not leave Joe Brady out of this too, because he obviously plays a big part of yes. Well. It kind of speaks to what happened to them against the Ravens early in that game last week, where they essentially struggle in yard situations in which they need a first down. Like I know, and it sounds simplistic to say that, but like early in that game, they could not get the fourth down or they decided to pun If you're getting a fourth down earlier, they couldn't convert third and eight or even any longer, and they're backed up against their own goal line. It's a double edged sword, though, because we just got on Zach Taylor for being conservative and running the ball three times before trying to set up a field goal. You could try to run the ball a couple of times there, but you're backed up against your you know, the shadow, your own goal post. What if you get stopped for a loss and suddenly you've given up a safety in a tie game. So it's a really tough situation to navigate. So it really does come down to execution and also speaks to the bills inability to find consistent success in the passing game unless it's a little bit of Josh Allen heroics, which is a thing that we've seen over the last now two games. So they need to go back to the drawing board and I think examine what they do in these situations, whether it's early in the game or in a key situation like that late and ultimately they end up with egg on their face. But at the same time, you know, what are you gonna do, Like it's you're five yards away from your own en zone, you have to, you know, kind of tread lightly there.

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Speaker 7: I think Joe Brady and and Shohn McDermott's defense, you're not gonna have a Josh Allen. A whole lot of Josh Allen games, He's one of fourteen against pressure for twenty four yards. Like Josh Allen only completed nine passes.

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Speaker 5: He's usually the best quarterback of the league against pressure.

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Speaker 6: And it's I think it's just an anomaly.

00:14:10
Speaker 7: I hope Josh is okay, But in those situations, three straight passes, you think Josh is gonna roll out, He's gonna do the pump fake thing, He's gonna go off.

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Speaker 6: He had a couple of good runs in this game.

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Speaker 7: Just the universe somehow, you know, in this conspiracy against the Bills. Uh, just in a game where the Texans made mistakes late as well, there was a game winning drive opportunity where Daria Kumbuale, instead of getting some extra yards for fairban on the drive before, for some reason, slides the burn clock and he could have got at least seven yards. Just an odd decision. I guess because Dari's hit game winning field goals. He did it last year. Maybe he had confidence in his dude, right, I think I'm not sure what happened there.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think he was. He was trying to keep the clock movie. I mean, it was very clear he was trying to keep he had first out. I actually thought that was a good play by a goombawale. I hear what you're saying. Maybe he could have just tried to run someone over. He's a big he's a big dude. But at that point in the game, and I'm really glad you brought that up. It looks like Houston is going to be able to run the clock down potentially and kick their own version of a game winning field goal.

00:15:21
Speaker 5: But CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud has an intentional grounding, which I think was the right call, but that ends up backing them up before the punt. So there was there was like a lot going on here. But you mentioned one for fourteen on pressure throws. Josh Allen went nine for thirty in this game. Yeah, for one hundred and thirty one yards in a touchdown. That's the lowest completion percentage for a passer that through at least thirty passes. I forget what the number was, but it was a really long time, Like you don't see a nine for thirty. He went one for fifteen on throws over ten yards, and I went and looked that throw over ten yards was about twelve or thirteen or something, So it was something like zero for twelve on throws plus fifteen. All day you just saw him throwing hope balls down the field, and they played a lot of single high They weren't, so they were almost daring them to throw the ball deep. They don't have a lot of guys who can win one on one. The Texans trusted their secondary, their secondary played great. They got a lot of pressure on Josh, even if it wasn't a lot of sacks, which is the story of the Bills offensive I mean the Texans defensive season, And I just think this is a game where, if you go back and watch it, both defenses were outstanding.

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Speaker 5: CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud got four hundred and twenty five yards of offense and I think did amazingly positive things. But he also turned the ball over twice in the second half and could not move the ball, and the Bills defense stood up over and over and over and over again, giving their offense a chance to win in the second half. So you got to say their defense played outstanding two And I'm just giving up to both these defenses that they were ahead of the offenses in this game, and that Yeah, the Bills have some things to figure out offensively. In a game where they did run the ball really well against a good Texans run defense, they maybe should have stuck with it a little more because they were getting consistent chunks when they ran the ball.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I have one note from the live watch before I go back and watch this again tomorrow about Josh Allen, and it just says stuck playing hero ball, and it really concerns me, not like seriously, we're long term concern but just in the last couple of weeks, this looks a lot like he was stuck, you know, in that situation he was stuck in in the final weeks of Ken Dorsey, and that is not where the Bills offense needs to go. And you're right, they ran the ball well, but when the ball's in his hands, he doesn't need to be out there trying to play hero the whole time. That's how you end up nine for thirty. And yeah, you're right, typicalt to the defense is and everythinglse. I'm sure they're get at ironed out, but for one day visually not great and.

00:17:43
Speaker 7: Looking over at because you're trying to explain this nine of thirty performance. Curtif Samuel had five yards average separation, Mac Collins had four and a half, a Dalton Kinkaid north of three and a half, and so it's.

00:17:56
Speaker 6: Maybe it was just a bad Josh game.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it was the picture that the Texans were showing them were not clear because whenever he threw it to Curtis Samuel, it was a disaster. Like Curtis Samuel, who I've always defended did not look great. They threw seven targets to Samuel and Valdez Scout Wan for a total of zero yards, and so they're just not in sync. The offensive line, though, is playing really well. Like I said, they ran the ball for I think like one hundred and fifty yards on the game, and they protected Alan well enough. They missed Khalil Shakir in this game, but Khaliol secure should not mean that much to him.

00:18:28
Speaker 5: I give McDermott credit.

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Speaker 4: He went for a fourth and five where the announcers are saying don't go for or it was Charles Davis saying don't go for it. It was at midfield in a close game, I think a ten point game, and they hit Keon Coleman for what turns out to be a forty nine yard catch and run touchdown.

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Speaker 5: So that's an ultimate great job.

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Speaker 4: Nico Collins, I should mention left this game with a hamstring injury that was caused on a sixty seven yard touchdown where he absolutely dusted the Bills secondary. The rookie Cole Bishop made a miss steak there ate the cheese, and that left Stephan Diggs kind of as their number one receiver mostly playing out of the slot, and Dix came through with enough possession chain moving catches six for eighty two. I noticed a somewhat if you could have an icy hug, I would say Diggs and Alan had an icy hug. It was the quickest hug you can possibly imagine. And a little bit of side eye from Diggs afterwards. Here is Digs in the locker room after the game.

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Speaker 5: Allay, y'all, I know how much that mentioned me. I appreciate, y'all. I love y'all. But the biggest thing we gotta get back to work.

00:19:33
Speaker 8: Man.

00:19:33
Speaker 5: That was a hell of a wind, but we gotta get back to the grind on the next week. Man, love y'all boys, Man, I like that.

00:19:41
Speaker 7: Yeah, look at just stuff on breaking it down in the locker room. Maybe maybe the quick hug is because like he knows, Josh played a bad game. He's not trying to sit there and draw even more to Okay, who knows who knows?

00:19:53
Speaker 5: Fair?

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Speaker 4: But then I also watched all the other hugs and interactions Stefan Diggs was having, like immediately before and after they were longer. Eric has his hand raised for the first time, so real quick It's just something.

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Speaker 6: I noticed.

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Speaker 12: Texans played Minnesota last week and they did so much be roll about Digs hugging it out with everybody hasn't been there in like what five six years. There was hugs with people I'm sure he'd even play with. He was in Buffalo last year. I didn't see one Josh Dappa. I didn't see any love on the sidelines.

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Speaker 5: It was weird.

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Speaker 4: I saw some other love that he was getting from his old teammates, but not with Josh. You know, We've heard some things and I don't think it. It is like a secret that they weren't necessarily like.

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Speaker 6: On but it is a secret.

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Speaker 7: It is a secret, okay, right, but it's literally a secret nobody knows.

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Speaker 12: There was a crazy love fest video on like Minnesota Twitter after the game. I don't even think Diggs was there with that guy and he's hugging this guy like it's his uncle.

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Speaker 5: Stephane was there last year in Buffalo. What we we doing?

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Speaker 4: Texans get the last laugh four and one. That could be a big game when we're looking at seeding at the end of the year. The Texans have survived a couple tricky weeks here and now they are well in front in the AFC South and the Bills fall to three in two. Let's go to Santa Clara, where I didn't expect one of the games of the day, but we got one of the games of the day.

00:21:12
Speaker 13: First down snapped to Purdy straight droughck in trouble hit and the ball flutters far aside and Kaizer White with a diving interception to win the game.

00:21:22
Speaker 5: Head midfield.

00:21:23
Speaker 13: Purdy got hit, the ball fluttered and Kaizier White caught up to it, pulled it in and.

00:21:30
Speaker 5: The Cardinals are gonna get one. In San fran.

00:21:34
Speaker 11: Unbelievable, David, the ball batted into the air. Crazy Carls showed up for the Arizona Cardinals. Bat the pig into the air and Kaizier White comes down with it.

00:21:49
Speaker 4: Bat the pig into the air. Let's go one of the most underrated players in the league, Kaizier White.

00:21:58
Speaker 5: I can't do that for long. I can't do that at all.

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Speaker 4: Twenty four to twenty three, the Cardinals get a stunning victory against the forty nine ers on the road. Not just stunning because of the recent history between these two teams and where the Cardinals have been at the last few weeks. But stunning because it was a twenty three to ten lead at halftime and the forty nine ers don't get another point. Stunning because the Cardinals go for two when they're down four. Spicy ends up winning on a Chad Ryland thirty five yardfield goal before that interception by my man Kaisier White shook. Tell me, because you watch this game closer, what do you think was the key to the Cardinals winning the second half?

00:22:48
Speaker 5: Fourteenth and nothing?

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Speaker 8: Running game number one. Everybody knows who's watched the Cardinals this year that if the running games going, they have a chance offensively. And James Connor, who got to halftime with nine yards on six attempts, I ended up with eighty six yards on nineteen attenpts. He didn't score, but he paced this offense and balanced it out, which bought first off He kept theim on schedule because the Cardinals in the third and long are terrible, and it kept them on schedule, which allowed Kyler Murray to just take the short passes, kind of dot the field with completions and keep the offense movie. So that was the first part balancing out the offense. The second part was takeaways. They were backed up first in goal fort Niners with the ball first and goal, moving right down the field, about to put the game away. Jordan Mason around the left end, and a linebacker you've never heard of because he hadn't played it down before today, comes in and knocks the ball out and it's recovered by the Cardinals, which then gives them the opportunity to go down the field and take the lead with chad Ryle Oya, well, it's gonna take me a second to five. Ketta Luketta, I don't know, Jesse Luketta. Jesse Luketta was his name, and he made a finalenal play. Dennis Gardak makes a key pass break up on third and twenty three. Because the Niners lose Jake Moody to injury, they're not gonna kick, however, long field goal very long out of Mitch Wishnowski's ring, so they have to go for it on fourth and twenty three. It's all the key little plays in between that stacked up, stacked up, and they capitalized, and every single one of them avoided catastrophe and came away with a shocking win that nobody saw coming.

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Speaker 7: A defense that really bothered brock Party, who only had one completion under pressure on the day wow most of his when brock Perty we see it all the time, spins away, rolls out to his right, makes a play when he's got time over two and a half seconds. Brock Purty was ten of twenty four in this game with two interceptions, just making some weird decisions. Not sure what John Gannon's defense did, but it was really a problem for this forty nine Ers offense to make big plays. Jordan Mason was really the only play that the forty nine Ers could make other than a couple of you plays.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So one of the theories that I've long believed there are some of these coordinators that dial up these crazy game plans and sometimes they really hit, and sometimes they really oh you know what I mean, Like that, if you're a game plan defense, you can have a game like where you win forty one to ten, and I think this is almost a game playing offense too, where they're very creative like they did against the Rams, or you can have a game like last week where they lose forty two to fourteen, like it's not working, or you really muddy up the picture and without like the best talent Nick, you end up, you know, winning and making enough big plays to keep this forty nine ers offense down on the other side.

00:25:30
Speaker 5: I suck. I didn't see a ton of this game.

00:25:32
Speaker 4: But Kyler Murray has a fourth and five, the game's on the line. They are driving for what turned out to be the go ahead, game winning field goal, but they almost certainly lose that game if he doesn't get it. And he has the most Kyler Murray fade away jumper to Marvin Harrison on fourth and five. Not many guys can do that. And that's just your best player is making a great play.

00:25:54
Speaker 8: Yeah, And it was a quiet day for Marvin Harrison Junior before that fact, they highlighted had been targeted six times that one catch that ended up being probably the biggest catch of the day. And he just throws basically a jump all on and out. He knows he's gonna be there. He just throws it off his back foot with the rush all in his face, and of course Marvin Harrison Junior comes down with the ball, buys him a fresh set of downs, and then they're suddenly in a position where they can run the ball and start to drain clock because they know they're in field goal range, and again timp of the cap new arrival, Chad Ryland shows up to replace Matt Prater, who's injured ice in his veins all day, knocks in both of his field goal attempts. Beautiful, beautiful comeback win for them.

00:26:27
Speaker 4: I mean, Chad Ryland was had one of the worst seasons any kicker has ever had last year for the Patriots. Was It's on Belichick's like twenty twenty three epitaph there that he used the fourth round pick. But he he's back in the league, and I'm.

00:26:41
Speaker 5: Happy for him. I guess I'm not that happy for him.

00:26:43
Speaker 7: He lack Greg Oh, Who's who's their kicker? I'm like, oh, they got child Ryland. Just like it's like that's over.

00:26:48
Speaker 4: There's yeah, ros, there's no way they gotta do. I want to go back to the Cardinals going for two down four.

00:26:57
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:26:57
Speaker 4: Look, if they hadn't made that, that's one where people are going to get out of them. They they won this game partly with an edge in the numbers. I mean, that is a gutsy call. Kyle Shanahan went for a field goal on fourth and goal from the two yard line. So those are those are like analytics plays and Kyle Shanahan is not playing by the numbers, and the Cardinals in those cases decided to and it really paid off for them. The forty nine ers are now oh to two in the NFC West. Both of those games they had ten point leads in the second half against the Rams and the Cardinals. They're ow to three in the NFC. Sets up a very compelling Thursday night game which these two guys, Nick Shook and Patrick Claybon are taking care of for me while while I'm in you know, hopefully asleep in the middle of the night in London.

00:27:46
Speaker 5: That that's uh, that's a big game.

00:27:48
Speaker 4: I mean the forty Nick, the forty nine ers got a kick return touchdown, no, a block field goal return touchdown, and an interception on a screen pass that set them up on a short field and they lost this game. And so, you know, Fairs fair like they had some big things going there advantage and they did not win.

00:28:05
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was one of those games where it just felt like everything was going their way and they were going to cruise to victory and it was almost a formality until the second half arrived and they started to kind of get you know, Steymy by the Cardinals defense, and then they started making plays and the balance just kind of shifted back in their favor, and you knew you were like one or two explosive plays away from suddenly this changing that never really quite happened. It was just a steady approach and because they had enough time, that's why they ended up pulling it out. But I mean, yeah, it's one of thoseames they're gonna look back and think, how do we lose this game because we made all the plays the right places in the first half and they went to sleep. I mean, Brandon aw Yuke one hundred and forty seven yards on eight catches, his first breakout his fight before was under fifty yards, like that should be leading toward a victory, and they just didn't get the do right.

00:28:45
Speaker 5: They're just weird.

00:28:46
Speaker 4: I mean, Jordan Mason has more yards rushing in the first five games than any running back in the history of the forty nine ers. But that fumble just absolutely turned the game. And yeah, you gets going. But then John Jennings has you know, thirteen yards on fok targets and Deebo Samuel has eleven yards on the game, and so they're just they're they're having a hard time putting it all together.

00:29:07
Speaker 5: That can happen for teams.

00:29:09
Speaker 4: I don't know that lose the Super Bowl and it's a long offseason and a whole lot of injuries. We're gonna go take a quick break here and when we come back yet, we're gonna travel.

00:29:20
Speaker 5: Across the ocean.

00:29:21
Speaker 4: Oh, it was a fun game in Tottenham Hotspurs game.

00:29:25
Speaker 5: It was a long game. We'll talk a little. Vikings Jets.

00:29:35
Speaker 1: The chests five of sixteen on third down, Rogers back to pass.

00:29:38
Speaker 5: Paid right, seems stop to did Gilmore pick it off? Come on?

00:29:43
Speaker 14: Good buy? I believe it was Stefan Gilmore, buddy's game. You have to buy his teammates and why wouldn't he. The Minnesota Vikings are going to improve. Took five and zero.

00:29:57
Speaker 5: Stefan Gilmore.

00:30:01
Speaker 4: The Vikings five and Oh what a world kfan. Paul Allen always getting it done, just like Stefan Gilmour, always getting it done, reading the throw, trying to go back shoulder to Mike Williams. Gilmore saw it, Mike Williams did not. It is time for the Sunday Drive presented by the all new hybrid Toyota Camry and yes it was our NFL Network game. It was a big game I think in the Jets season, and more than anything, I think it was an awesome game by the Vikings defense. It's tricky like whether you want to give credit, you know, to bad offense or good defense. In this case, Patrick, We've seen this Vikings defense scramble so many different teams that if not for a very poor Sam Darnold game and a bad interception in the fourth quarter, this thing would have been over and quite boring with the way that the Vikings defense played through about the first ten to eleven possessions that the Jets had.

00:30:59
Speaker 6: And then they did it with consistency.

00:31:00
Speaker 7: It wasn't just big plays, because I know Aaron Rodgers had three bad passes that they'll tell you were bad passes, including the one that Stefan Gilmore got, But they were consistent as the day went on, especially getting pressure on Aaron Rodgers, who ultimately ended up throwing the ball fifty four times wow, and this one including twenty two targets to Garrett Wilson. But on the other side, while the Jets got called for a litany of penalties. It was really just a consistent veteran performance, something that we've seen from this Vikings defense for the entire season. Bothering Aaron Rodgers, limiting Breese Hall on the ground to nine carries for twenty three yards. Braylan Allen didn't fare much better. They both averaged two point six yards per carry. Smothering they're in the right spots. It's just a very very good, solid deal.

00:31:41
Speaker 5: It's very well coached.

00:31:42
Speaker 4: Shook before that Donald interception, which really changed the game. With under ten minutes to go, they're in their own end. It's just been a punt fest in the second half. Donald struggled since Aaron Jones went out, which was early in the second quarter with a hip injury. He gives the Jets a chance on a short field and they cash in for their second short field touchdown of the game. Before that, the Jets offense had had six punts, two turnovers, those interceptions by Rogers, one turnover on downs, and yeah, they got three after a special team's penalty gave them an extra possession on a roughing the punter like the Jets got three points that way, and they got another seven on a short field, So the offense almost hadn't done anything themselves. They had like very few total yards, and yet there they were at the end of the game driving and I'm thinking, like, man, is Aaron Rodgers gonna do this? And right now I don't think there's just like a lot of belief and a lot of like cohesion in that offense.

00:32:44
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, last week I got on them for making Aaron Rodgers throw it forty two times in the rain. Fifty four times seems like a lot, and it is. But there was a period during that stretch where they tried to run the ball twice and got stuffed like three four five yards deep in the backfield, like just completely losing any sort of semblance of a blocking unit on the interior on those plays. And I'm like, well, I understand. I mean, Aaron Rodgers almost got tackled on the handoff on that play. I guess they have to throw the football. Everything is hard for this offense right now. Everything is difficult, and Aaron Rodgers just looks so exasperated, like he first off, he's trying to make some miracle throws, which he tried when Alan was ard in the end zone, which was placed perfectly but the window was like smaller than the size of my face, which can often appear large in the screen at times. It was about that big. To expect anybody to catch that would be out of their mind. And he almost did. And yet Rodgers is very angry at himself and maybe angry with the fact that it wasn't, you know, producing a positive result. It's just there's so much frustration right now. So that's how you end up with this final score, like where you end up with seventeen points in a pick in the final minute, but they had a shot. Now I have to say this, guys. Five games in, I am sold on the Vikings defense. I wasn't so skeptical. I was like, well, maybe it's a matchup thing. What they did to the Niners was maybe that was the aberration. I am sold now because of the way Brian Flores has count me the last guy on the train. I'll get on the caboose. I don't care. That's good because they're good. They're they're well coached. Like you said, you know, Harrison Phillips is a monster in the inside. They have a great unit. And Gilmore getting that pick, I mean because he was getting kind of touched up by Garrett Wilson earlier in the second half. Him getting that pick in that situation felt very vindicating, I think for this entire Vikings team.

00:34:17
Speaker 4: Right, but are we believing in the Vikings offense? This was a step back. Look, Aaron Jones is not as important as Justin Jefferson to this offense. And certainly the offensive line gives them a huge, big foundation to build off. And they were fine today at least in their their pass protection. But Donald had had a tough game. Miss you know, he got hitting the rips very early and maybe that was a factor, but just missing throws all over the place, not really seeing the field too well. I mean, I think Rogers was just as good or better than Darnald in this game. Donald goes fourteen for thirty one. But you know what, he gets the ball with them only up three after that touchdown drive that I was saying, and he makes his best couple of throws of the game at the end, one to Jefferson and then another of the tight end Johnny Mutt and get some three points there and so they feel better going into the buy. I think that he had a nice one. He's not afraid to keep sleeping. I'll give him that. Like, he kept firing it in there, and there were some bad decisions and bad throws, and he kept going and it paid off in the end that he had a couple of good throws.

00:35:19
Speaker 7: Yeah, both one wide receivers got a lot of volume today. A lot of those balls that Sam Donald threw justin Jefferson's way probably could have gone somewhere else in the progression. I can't be too mad at Sam for that, but I'll tell you it was a It was just a.

00:35:33
Speaker 6: A standard Sam Donald game before this.

00:35:36
Speaker 8: Season, right, That's how I felt, too, Like this.

00:35:39
Speaker 7: Is we'd seen this before the rest of the team. I picked him up there. And of course Aaron Jones is a huge factor, but and I don't really know how much of the game plan went to Aaron Jones and how much just goes out of the window when ty Chandler comes in.

00:35:54
Speaker 6: But ty Chandler had a turnover as well.

00:35:57
Speaker 7: It was just it did impact things, but I don't really know that it was as much.

00:36:03
Speaker 4: No, Well, he adds twenty two targets to Jefferson and Addison for only nine catches, which just you're just not used to seeing and some were just misses and some were just bad decisions. Both of these guys, I mean, Garrett Wilson had twenty two targets in this game. I thought Rogers was making a point to force it to him. Early on the very last drive of the game, Garrett Wilson, you know, kind of sees the coverage is stepping up on them on what looked like a hitch rout and then he decides to go deep and Rogers sees him, but he can't make the play in the throat. They would have won the game or they would have taken the lead there if he hits Garrett Wilson, And those are the fine margins. Like Rogers just isn't creating very well on his own. He ends up going three for seventeen on throws over ten yards.

00:36:52
Speaker 5: So there were just.

00:36:52
Speaker 4: Some funky numbers here, and the Vikings go into their by five and oho, the Jets chose not to take a buy.

00:37:00
Speaker 5: It's the way the NFL does it these days.

00:37:02
Speaker 4: If you go to London, the team can actually request to have the buy afterwards or not, like if they don't want it that early in the season, that the NFL says, okay, you don't have to have it afterwards, and they will play the Bills in a really interesting Monday night game, but they are at two and three long way to go. Let's actually listen to Rogers after the game.

00:37:22
Speaker 15: I'm definitely banged up. I got my foot cat on a pile there, you know, but just seems to be a low ankle sprain.

00:37:34
Speaker 6: You know.

00:37:35
Speaker 15: Again, they were trying to get me in the tent and we had a roughened kicker and I said, screw it, I'm going back out there.

00:37:42
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, let's read type performance from an where he's honestly, because I had left the house to get in to do Game Day Live, and I saw Rogers writhing around on the ground and I'm thinking, oh, that's that's tough for the Jets.

00:37:55
Speaker 6: You know. Rogers goes down and I get back in and he's playing in the game.

00:37:59
Speaker 4: He was cross was crawling around like on the sideline after his knee got wrenched up, and you thought, my god, this could be like a long term injury. And suddenly he's back out on the field and they had like a long drive. So injuries were a factor here. But yeah, he diagnosed as a low ankle spring Sauce Gardner. We should also mention uh was evaluated for a head injury, but he did return to this game right at the very end.

00:38:24
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a lot of time on the sideline, but I do believe he was.

00:38:28
Speaker 4: Yes, he was back in and Uh, just because I like patting ourselves on the back. Let's just mention if you listened to the previews, show what game we took as a survivor pick, and there were there were some there were some land mines out there.

00:38:42
Speaker 5: You could have gone forty nine ers today. That would have been trouble h. We didn't do that, so we went with the Vikings and they came through it. Good job by me, Patrick and Steve Wisch.

00:38:56
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00:39:02
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00:39:04
Speaker 4: Learn more at Toyota dot com slash Camery. Let's head to Washington, Nick, One of these weeks we should just take you off Brown's duty, but this was not that week.

00:39:15
Speaker 10: Second and seven at the forty one yard line, two wide receivers of the right at three to the left, Dicapri inerts next to each other inside the numbers. Diccaffrey chip blocks Jaden. Look what up towards the Emmy running gun up, touchdown, tuckdown.

00:39:31
Speaker 5: That was Bram Weinstein from WB I G.

00:39:37
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels goes deep to Diamy Brown, part of a thirty four to thirteen victory. The Washington Commanders are four to one. They've won their last two games by a combined score of let me do the math here seventy six to twenty three. Jaden Daniels wait for eighty two on the ground. Now they're you know, a couple of big throws through the air, a sixty six yarder, a thirty three yarder, and a forty one yarder, Like, is this one of the best teams in football?

00:40:10
Speaker 13: Nick?

00:40:10
Speaker 5: Look whoa Well?

00:40:12
Speaker 8: You know, the big concern with them wasn't quarterback, because Jade Daniels proved himself rather quickly starting with that Monday night went over Cincinnati. It was the defense. Can the defense get a stop? Well, in the last two weeks, the defense is allowed to combine twenty seven points while outscoring them.

00:40:25
Speaker 6: Like you just said so, dan.

00:40:27
Speaker 8: Quinn's fingerprints kind of all over this. They had seven sacks a day against the Browns offensive line that is very quickly becoming notorious for being a sieve. And you can sack Deshaun Watson as much as you want against them, as long as you send the house on third down, as every defense is done to the Browns this year. But this defense is coming together and especially in the front seven. The back end still leaves me a little bit concerned, but the front seven is really playing well. They were dominant on both sides of the ball today. Just a complete team win. And you know, it's funny because you look at Jane Daniels stat line's fourteen to twenty five for two thirty eight, a touchdown and a pick, probably his roughest game in the NFL so far, maybe save for like, I.

00:41:00
Speaker 5: Don't know, week week one was yeah, week one, I would say.

00:41:03
Speaker 8: Yeah, weak one, because I mean he's still produced. But they were trailing that whole game, right, Uh. He still was awesome. It's just that the Browns had a nice little edge on him early in the game and their offense is so bad that it didn't matter, and he eventually he found his groove. That touchdown passed with Janny Brown was the straw that broke the camel's back. The crack of the dam that burst, you know, and whatever it is, that's what it was. And it just was a cruise fest from there for the commanders who look fantastic offensively.

00:41:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's listen to our friend Bram Weinstein again for a candidate. I'll throw out there from Dayden Daniels for the throw of the year. I don't know this one caught all right, Tody Cannon.

00:41:38
Speaker 6: It's not the.

00:41:38
Speaker 10: Daniels big pressure coming up the middle and he tried to get away from gulping it. Douns moved to his right hook a Deuthfield throwing from the chlorin behind.

00:41:45
Speaker 14: It a game.

00:41:50
Speaker 6: Again. The magic i'll tighten down was.

00:41:54
Speaker 4: This old display London Fletcher there on the call along with mister Weinstein. I mean sprinting right throwing that ball. It's just how it comes down so pretty Patrick, and.

00:42:07
Speaker 7: It's a great throw. It will be on the toty reel. It's not quite touching Richardson's no, but and.

00:42:13
Speaker 5: I wish McLaurin finished it with a touch on that. I was bad luck. He just got caught by for behind by the ankle.

00:42:18
Speaker 6: But I mean it's it's an incredible throw.

00:42:20
Speaker 7: The guy also for this, for like the fourth week in a row I'm looking over, Cliff called an incredible football game Austin Eckler had At one point in the fourth quarter, Austin Eckler had sixteen yards per touch, like per catch and per carry, like everything was working. Of course Jayden's doing He's seven yards seven and a half yards of carry, and so it's tough to figure out, like how much is the rookie being phenomenal and not being a lot of tape on him and Cliff just putting together a great game plan. But I mean, the win for the Browns today is somehow getting Jadan Daniels to have eleven incompletions.

00:42:54
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, like that that's the win for the Browns.

00:42:57
Speaker 4: I saw, you know, Jaden Daniels against unblocked pressure in the first half. There was four unblocked pressures. He went two for two for seventy eight yards. One of them was you know, that long throw, and then he ran for thirty six yards. So even the perfect defense is not getting him down. He is just a force of nature. I would say the story of the NFL season right now is Jaden Daniels. This is so much different than twenty twelve because of the ownership. Yes, and twenty twelve people look back on now is like a moment in time of like, oh, yeah, that couldn't have last. You would have known that at the time. That was equally magical in terms of the level of play that RG three was at. He was fantastic, like his level, but the fact that Snyder was there, it was it was always something hanging over this organization. It changed things in a way that this feels like a totally fresh, different type of start.

00:43:52
Speaker 5: That is not the case.

00:43:53
Speaker 4: It's almost the opposite. In vibes when we're talking Cleveland. Nick listen to Kevin Stefanski after the game asked if he's going to bench Deshaun Watson.

00:44:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're not changing quarterbacks. We need to play better.

00:44:08
Speaker 15: I need to coach better.

00:44:10
Speaker 6: And that's really what it is.

00:44:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, when when you start just saying like everyone around him needs to play better, that's not a good sign. Give me your Deshaun Watson recap from today ends up throwing the ball twenty eight times for one hundred and twenty five yards, and a.

00:44:24
Speaker 5: Lot of that was in garbage time.

00:44:26
Speaker 8: Well, point number two, and by what we learned is it's time to bench DeShawn Watson.

00:44:30
Speaker 14: OK.

00:44:30
Speaker 8: And I don't say that with any sort of you know, Cleveland background in me. It is just obvious. This is a guy who is holding your offense back. Yes, they don't protect well. Yes they don't run the ball except for maybe a third of their plays, and they don't do it well until late in the game. And it doesn't matter. But this guy is not playing quarterback at an NFL level anymore. He's just not soon. He's been under pressure so much in the first four or five games of the season that as soon as he senses pressure, he's pulling his eyes down. There are guys open. He's looking at the USh almost immediately. He held the ball for an average of three point twenty seven seconds today. He's not making quick decisions. He lacks the speed and mobility to get out of the pocket and extend plays with his legs or pick up positive games for first downs. It seems like he doesn't even want to run unless he absolutely has to. Ball security is bad. The entire offense is being held back by him. They have money invested in receivers, They have money invested in David Djoko and tight end. None of that matters because even when they're open, he misses him by three yards. He did it early in the game against the throw to Amari Cooper today and Greg Olsen was like, you're wide open the NFL on that throw, Like you got to make that throw. He's not good enough to play in the NFL as it stands right now. And if the Browns want to dig out of their one and four hole, they need to accept that fact. Kevin STEFANSI needs to make a change and see what happens, because you have no future with him right now. Played and simple.

00:45:44
Speaker 6: We already have the president once this season.

00:45:46
Speaker 7: Dave Canalis on a Sunday after a bad loss by the Carolina Panthers comes out and says, we're not making a change at quarterback, lowe of the hole. Thirteen hours later, it's announced that there's a change at quarterback. I don't see Jamis comes in this game. Those one pass, it's complete. I'd like that one pass. I'd seen enough. I'd seen that before this year. But I feel like we have evidence as to right now what the best option for the Cleveland Browns is.

00:46:13
Speaker 6: It's not Deshaun Watson.

00:46:14
Speaker 4: Well, Kevin Stefanski knows that he knows the score. He knows who pushed for Deshaun Watson and who didn't, and to make it clear, I don't, but he he knows, like how much of that was his decision, how much went into this season and they're planned for the backup and not deciding to bring Joe Flacco back where Dorian Thompson Robinson is at because he's going to be an option at some point, if not right away. I don't think it's a guarantee that it would be Jameis Winston if they go to another quarterback. But he also knows that is a conversation I have to have with ownership with the general manager. Whether that's right or not, that's just a fact of life in the NFL, because I think when you go away from Deshaun Watson, you're never going back. It's the worst contract in the history of the NFL. It's the worst trade in the end. We're in the history of the NFL, and it's been the worst.

00:47:10
Speaker 8: Just like.

00:47:12
Speaker 4: To make a mistake that was so obvious before they even made it. I would have never expected the on field product to be this bad. I thought it was a mistake because of everything else that Deshaun Watson was bringing, including a suspension.

00:47:25
Speaker 9: Uh.

00:47:26
Speaker 4: And now now we're here and I don't know what kind of career he's going to have moving forward.

00:47:31
Speaker 5: I don't know.

00:47:31
Speaker 4: Maybe they will let him play six more games, like everything is possible with this team.

00:47:35
Speaker 5: I doubt it. But man, it's just dark. Man, it's pretty it's pretty dark.

00:47:43
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:47:43
Speaker 8: I mean, we operate with the privilege of hindsight here, right, But at the same time, how many times are you gonna slayer your face skins of brick wall before you decide to stop proceeding in the direction of the brick wall? Because the Browns are headed nowhere fast. And it all has to do with Deshaun Watson. And it's as simple as if you need proof, just look at last year. Like I know, personal around he has changed their offensive lines, banged up, But just look at last year. This is you got Joe Flack off the couch and he played well, Like make the change for how.

00:48:07
Speaker 4: About the Jacobe Brissett heere you have all sorts of proof, all off Kevin Stefanski's era. There even Baker Mayfield when he was going well like he has a history of quarterbacks that have done better, and they gave him and Andrew Berry, who deserves a lot of heat here because he ultimately made the trade like Watson pretty late in this game, had one point four yards per pass. I mean, you just can't play football this way. They are the only the six teams since two thousand to have under three hundred yards and under twenty points for their first five games of the season. The other teams quarterbacks for those game. For those teams, there were a couple of Dolphins teams involved. It was actually post surgery Dante Culpepper, which bumps me out in a little.

00:48:53
Speaker 5: Joey Harrington A. J.

00:48:54
Speaker 4: Feely was involved, Jimmy Clawson's Panthers team, Josh Rosen's doll Dolphins team.

00:49:00
Speaker 5: It just ye, it's it's some of the worst teams ever.

00:49:03
Speaker 4: And I do want to say before we move on, I apologize to Jordan Rodrieg of The Athletic for complaining that she put Frankie Luvu on our preseason All Pro team, Because man, Frankie Luvo is bawling out right now. Two back to back dominant games. Frankieluvu, It's getting it done. Let's end on a positive note and go to where Jordan was on Sunday, Sofi Stadium, Rams Packers.

00:49:28
Speaker 13: Here, it is ballgame, fourth down in almost five football to the thirty Gaglina green Bay Stafford of the shotgun. Three receivers left, snap Stafford looking waiting throws it's broken up.

00:49:40
Speaker 2: In complain, Yes, broken up on the play on.

00:49:43
Speaker 13: A slap bantern and it is Carryington Valentino breaks it up.

00:49:49
Speaker 5: There is your dagger. Finally it was a final lyay like you thought it was over, then it wasn't. I thought it was over and then it wasn't.

00:49:59
Speaker 4: But finally the Packers defense gets to stop Wayne Lairvi on wr N tow Look. The Packers get it down twenty four to nineteen, send the Rams into their buy at one and four.

00:50:13
Speaker 5: The Packers get a much needed win.

00:50:15
Speaker 4: To get to three and two on a day Patrick where they didn't have Romeo Dobbs because they suspended him after he missed practice on Thursday and Friday, apparently reportedly upset about the game plan. They had a game plan that was pretty heavy on Tucker Kraft and Jane Rita.

00:50:35
Speaker 5: I like that Don Tavian Wicks.

00:50:36
Speaker 4: That did not work out for them, but they did get a win in kind of a game that had a little bit of everything, a little bit.

00:50:42
Speaker 7: Of everything, and ultimately, when you look back at this game, I understand Green Bay comes in their favorite. They're healthier than Los Angeles. The Rams lost this game right. There were two third quarter turnovers that the Packers turned into scores. One of the Rams touchdowns was an absolute gift from Jordan Love with Tody worst Throw of the Year campaign candidate. As he's falling out of the back, could just take a safety. He's falling, he tries to get the ball to his tight end, ends up throwing a pick six. But the Packers on third down were one of eight one of eight ah third down, they got out gained by the Rams. Those turnovers doomed the Rams in and a performance where it seemed like because Matthew Stafford has been carrying this hurt Rams team. There were a couple of throws from Matt Stafford to I just haven't seen all season, some misses, good performance, but ultimately coming up short because of.

00:51:34
Speaker 6: Some crucial errors.

00:51:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, he throws it forty five times to get to two hundred and sixty yards. You know, they went into halftime with a lead, but then a fumble on their first drive of the second half. And they're a team that just has such a small margin for error, and that was a Kyrin Williams fumble, who's been playing great overall.

00:51:52
Speaker 5: They spelled them a little more in this game.

00:51:54
Speaker 4: Finally blake Quorum out of moth balls and look good getting twenty five yards on five carries, but like, they just can't afford plays like that. And then the Packers offense finally got going for a couple of touchdowns, and I was thinking, Okay, finally like a normal Jordan Love game, because I just think he's been so up and down this year.

00:52:14
Speaker 5: But then they struggle in the fourth quarter.

00:52:16
Speaker 4: They punt a couple of times, including one on a long drive, and he had that interception. So I don't think this qualifies as a normal Jordan Love game. But you'd rather be figuring things out at three and two, especially in a season where you didn't have your quarterback for two of those games. They survive in the like Shanahan Tree, you know, off Lafleur beats McVay.

00:52:38
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is one of those games where they're gonna look back and say, I'm really glad. I think i'd we won that game, because like we did not play our best, Like you said, Jordan Love has been up and down since he came back from that knee injury, and yet they pull out a win. He had one really nice throw late in this game that really killed me because it went right through Dantavian Wix's hands and then it forced them to punt and the Rams get the ball back. But what really killed me the most was the missus you talked about with Stafford, that fourth down throw that that we just played it. He's under pressure and he misses his target probably body yard, and throws it basically out of his catch radius. And that's just how it all ends. And mcveigh's expression says it all. He's just staring up with his mouth agape, like I can't believe that just happened. I thought we had a good shot. Another game where a lot of things just feel difficult for them. I know they're hurt offensively, they're missing a bunch of alignment and everything else. They're missing their top two receivers. But a winnable game that you end up losing and you're now one and four, and like McVeigh, you know he alluded to after like it hurts, and it should hurt, because this is a winnable game against a team that's gonna end up with a winning record, and you're gonna be looking up at them in the overall NFC standings if you can even get out of your own division, and you're just gonna sit back and think, ah, there's one of those ones that we should have had, and now we're one and four. We got to dig out of this hole.

00:53:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's bad one and fours, and then there's teams like the Rams, who had that one game against the Cardinals, but otherwise it's been just there in their three losses, all to good teams. And you wonder when he misses he throws though it's such a timing offense. And you know, Jordan Wittington is clearly their number one receiver. I think he's a really good player actually, and he should be owning all fantasy leagues if he wasn't already. I think he's doing a lot of what they asked Cooper Cup and Poka Nakua to do. And I think Stafford clearly trusts him seven for eighty nine.

00:54:14
Speaker 5: But he's your one.

00:54:15
Speaker 4: Two to out well is your two and Kobe Parkinson gets thirteen targets in this game.

00:54:20
Speaker 5: That's tough.

00:54:21
Speaker 4: Packer's weird situation. Yeah, Wicks had a bad game and he had that drop. I mean that's some of the problems with with Jordan Love. But the Dobs situation they have to figure out. I do like that they're unlocking Tucker Kraft who had an outrageous sixty six yard touchdown. That was a fantastic play. And then let's let's talk about the throw that Jordan Love had to Jayden Reid. I think this is a Tony candidate throw of the year. Let's take a listen second and ten, Green.

00:54:50
Speaker 6: Bay the Packers forty five.

00:54:51
Speaker 13: Love takes play action back with a little deep rop, past time rainbows for re Downlina stuff.

00:54:57
Speaker 11: My god, catch him set Hey.

00:55:02
Speaker 6: Sid sanction a trouble catch.

00:55:05
Speaker 5: Tell me goes put on a play. What a catch that is right near the top for me.

00:55:15
Speaker 4: Patrick's sixty one yards uh total air yards on that to throw it from one hash to the other into double coverage, but it gets where it needs to go. Outstanding catch too. Jaden Reid is is Jayden Reid like an all pro? That's a totally separate point.

00:55:32
Speaker 6: Do it, yes, to your separate point, I do.

00:55:34
Speaker 7: I do believe he is because it might have been a better catch than it was a throw, A little bit of a journey. I'm still I'm frantically on game day lot trying to look through the roster to see who number four is? Uh for the rams, but he takes the cecuitous route, doesn't necessarily track the ball, actually winds up running past the balls.

00:55:52
Speaker 5: Is that a Kella weatherspoon?

00:55:53
Speaker 6: I think it is.

00:55:55
Speaker 4: If if you want to know who number four they, I think did they sign him recently? And they actually had uh Trenavious White a healthy scratch. If you want to know how things are going at their cornerback, well.

00:56:04
Speaker 8: He hasn't been good at all.

00:56:06
Speaker 6: Well, it's it's been an adventure back there. It's it's a nice throw.

00:56:10
Speaker 7: I don't I don't even know I'm gonna have that Jayden Daniels throw probably a little bit better.

00:56:15
Speaker 4: Okay, just put them both on the on the real eric and consider for our midweek meeting where we meet with all the higher ups in the NFL yes, Goodell shows up on the zoom, but like you know, the face isn't on it, so I don't know if he's really the right. Let's maybe bring up the idea of the worst throw there, the w Tony what is it? Because Jordan loves Jordan loves there with like three different Will Levis throws.

00:56:38
Speaker 5: All right, let's go to Seattle. We're not done with big plays yet. Let's go.

00:56:43
Speaker 6: Myers and his tenth year out of Marist. His shut snap is good, kick on it, splaining.

00:56:52
Speaker 5: Fuck by the Giants.

00:56:53
Speaker 16: They gotta toushed up the middle and they scoop it up coming down the left side of Houston.

00:56:58
Speaker 6: He's still five and he's for the score a touchdown.

00:57:03
Speaker 5: Price Ford Wheton is the.

00:57:05
Speaker 6: One that picked it up.

00:57:08
Speaker 4: Bryce Ford we in on a block by Isaiah Simmons. It was just a day for blocked field goal returns. It was a day for defensive touchdowns. More on that in a second, And it was a day for Yeah, Isaiah Simmons not playing a lot of defense these days, but gets it done at a point where it looked like the Giants might blow a twenty three to thirteen fourth quarter lead, but special team saves them.

00:57:37
Speaker 7: On a play where Brian da Ball shouting out the special teams coordinator, and ultimately there's a lot of consternation in Seattle about the results of this play because as well the long snapper as well as the guard Lake and Tomlinson got pushed in the back and held down.

00:57:53
Speaker 6: Yeah, Isaiah Simmons could jump over them.

00:57:55
Speaker 7: Apparently the rules clarification is that's okay, keep an eye out for that in the league, because they weren't being held down, they weren't pulled down, they weren't blocked, they were just kind of made stationary. Give a clear lane for Isaiah Simmons on what ultimately I thought was about to be a Geno game winning touchdown drive Greg but the Giants defense made the place.

00:58:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, so proceding that was a drop by.

00:58:20
Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and jigba Am I remembering it correctly, I mean that goes right off his hands on third down, and so that ends up setting up that field goal. Gino also threw an incomplete deep to lock it right before that, and so they're in such great position with a ton of time and then they're suddenly making that kick. Yeah, that was I mean, Mike McDonald, the Seahawks coach, said after the game he thinks it was legal what the Giants did not many people have dexter Lawrence's I mean, that's the thing, like, how many people are that strong to actually pull that off? And how many people are that athletic Isaiah Simmons to jump over the top without making any contact with the line, which would make it a penalty. So I give it more to the individual execution, and the Seahawks didn't execute ultimately because that that dropped by JSN absolutely killed them.

00:59:15
Speaker 8: I have an answer for that another player who is as athletic enough to do that, Miles Garrett and in Indianapolis last year.

00:59:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but it is rare, that's what we're talking about.

00:59:23
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the class. Yeah, the freaks.

00:59:25
Speaker 8: Yeah, the freaks of the NFL can do that. Yes, exactly. It's a thrilling play. But I thought it was fitting too, because the Giants defense really made life tough for Gno. I know, he finished, you know, twenty eight to forty for two eighty four in a touchdown, but nothing was easy for them. And this is a Seahawks offense we saw go to tote with the Lions a week earlier. They're a pretty explosive offense when everything's working right, and even things for DK Metcalf were tough. I mean, he had four catches for fifty five yards and it was he had a fumble that was a turning point in the game as well. So, you know, shout up the Giants defense. You know, we we focused a lot on quarterbacks in this league, and Daniel Jones has steadily been better and better since his ugly start of the season, right, you know, a small baby steps along the path toward being a competent quarterback. But this defense has really been sneaky good for them and has kept them competitive, especially in their last few games. I mean, it was dominant against the Browns. It made a big difference in this game today, maybe not in the next gen statsic. Their pressure eight was what thirty five point three percent, So that's not really going to jump off the screen for you that much. Solid, but nothing easy for Gina. Yeah, I mean it's solid, but it's not like, well, they're in the forties. Nothing was easy for Gina though, because of this Giants defense, that front four and really that front seven has made life tough for a lot of offenses so far.

01:00:29
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Lawrence gets three sacks in the game, four quarterback hits, and then that play at the end. He is an all pro Yes, yes, and Brian Burns makes He's had a couple plays this year. I know it hasn't been every week, but in their two wins he has made game changing plays that led to that win. So the Seahawks go for it on a fourth and one from their own thirty five in the fourth quarter, and Burns comes like a bat out of hell, untouched, but just reads the play, explodes and prevents Gino Smith from doing anything gets it. Did he get the sacker? Did he just have the pressure on that play? I can't even remember either way. It sets up a short field goal drive for the Giants to go up two scores. I thought that was going to be the end of it, but this being the NFL in twenty twenty four.

01:01:20
Speaker 6: That was at the end of it.

01:01:21
Speaker 7: And also the Giants offense in terms of a breakout game, Tyron and Tracy had twelve carries coming into this game, ultimately goes eighteen carries for one hundred.

01:01:30
Speaker 6: And twenty nine yards.

01:01:31
Speaker 7: The Giants sustained offense because with the frustrated the DK metcalf turnover, the turnover on downs. So Geno and company just wanted shots to get back out there, but in several opportunities they just couldn't get back out there because the Giants were staying on the field. I thought, you know, I know, we talked about quarterbacks a lot, and it's in terms of QB wins, this is the best dimes game that I've seen.

01:01:55
Speaker 5: The interesting but even considering that there was.

01:01:58
Speaker 7: A third and four opportunity in the fourth quarter, get a first down, get out of there and get the win, and the Seahawks defense comes up with a pass break up, you can there's you know, questions or whether it oh.

01:02:09
Speaker 5: That was a PI I thought on the Seahawks defender.

01:02:12
Speaker 6: Yeah.

01:02:12
Speaker 5: So so they got lucky a little too in terms.

01:02:14
Speaker 7: Of it, But you don't you don't want to waste the good dimes games. They got a good dime game with no Elak Neighbors and gotta win.

01:02:20
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, that's the key point. No Mo Lake Neighbors, Wondale Robinson, you know, makes a touchdown grab and Darius Slayton has a really nice game eight for one twenty two and a touchdown. It was like in this one stretch where he just caught a deep ball, gets flagged for tawning after signaling a first down, then makes another catch, like suddenly they just exploded I don't know where, and I'm like, oh my god. The Giants offense isn't just like competent. They have a little bit of life here. I don't know if they can sustain it over four quarters, but when paired with the defense, they're a tough out. Now they're only two and three because of that rough start that they had, but I kind of like the way they're trending, you know, not like that, you know, team of the year type stuff, but like sleeper, you.

01:02:51
Speaker 5: Know, I said, I set off for them.

01:02:53
Speaker 4: I think on the previous show was damning with faint praise, but they were like the second best one and three team in the league. Yeah, the I was like, they're actually playing like close to like the twentieth best team, and so it makes sense to me that they are two and three. I'm noticing this is a trend around the NFL, especially the NFC, like everyone's just trending towards the middle. Forget that there's every team has won a game spoiler alert in the NFL, almost every team in the NFL. In the NFC has won two games. Like everyone is at two and three or three and two for the most part. The Rams and a team we haven't talked about yet. The Panthers are the only team that are at one and four. And yeah, the Giants get it done on a day where they're missing Devin Singletary as well. I think if you don't pressure Daniel Jones, he's gonna be fine. And you know, we've talked about fraud watch occasionally for some teams. I don't think the Seahawks are remotely there because their defense is going to travel. But the Seahawks defensive ratings after the first three weeks look a little fraudulent because they got they got some healthy players back today. They got Leonard Williams back, they got Nuosu back, they got their linebacker Jerome Baker back, and it was still pretty rough.

01:04:06
Speaker 5: To give up four.

01:04:06
Speaker 4: Hundred and twenty yards to the Giants, twenty four first downs and get run on by Tyrone Tracy one hundred and twenty nine yards. That is not a good performance by the Seahawks. So on a day that starts for the Seahawks with one hundred and two yard fumble return touchdown return by ray Shawn Jenkins their safety. You get a free seven points that you don't expect to get there. They still end up losing to the Giants. They are three and two, and like I mentioned, they're going to be playing on Thursday night. We will take one more break here. We're going to get to the teams that are headed overseas this week. Like myself looking forward to this game in London, but first got a couple games to talk about Stateside.

01:05:01
Speaker 1: Two tight ends, said I formation this time on second and five, Big is be the running back.

01:05:06
Speaker 5: They passed it to the left of Tanks. He cuts it back to the middle of the field.

01:05:09
Speaker 17: That's good running Tank Bagsy the open forty fop forty thirty fop thirty twenty fifteen.

01:05:15
Speaker 2: Pen fuck touchdown.

01:05:17
Speaker 16: Big big Sby has exploded for another score, sixty five yard.

01:05:23
Speaker 5: How good is that? In the gage E stim the lead.

01:05:28
Speaker 4: Oh, it is good to hear Frank Franzi's voice again, first time all year.

01:05:33
Speaker 14: W j x L.

01:05:36
Speaker 4: Yeah. Tank Bixby with his second impressive touchdown run of the year. I mean his nineteen yard run in the third quarter was an absolute thing of beauty as well.

01:05:46
Speaker 5: He has come to play this year one hundred and one yards.

01:05:49
Speaker 4: And yet it came down to a whole lot of defensive collapse in the fourth quarter and Trevor Lawrence being asked to step up and potentially save his coaches job, like we'll we'll never know, but the walls were caving in on this Jaguars team. They hadn't won a game all year. They're up thirty four to twenty after that run. There's only five minutes left in the game, and somehow the Colts have two separate touchdown drives that go for seventy yards or more and forty five seconds or less. It was going to be one of the worst collapses that you've ever seen. And there was some whispers that if they don't win this game, who knows if Peterson even makes the trip to London. So Trevor Lawrence gets the ball and this is gonna get a little forgotten in this game. He throws a nine yard throw to Dearanis Johnson, a really nice catch by Luke Ferrell eleven yards, and then who's he trusted more over the years than Christian Kirk fourteen yards to him. He sets up a Cam Little forty nine yard field goal, get out of there with a thirty seven to thirty four win. And it was really nice sook to just see them execute offensively at the end of this game because they needed every last yard, every last point, because their their defense wasn't doing anything by the end. Twenty four fourth quarter points for the Colts, but the Jaguars escape with their first victory of the year.

01:07:23
Speaker 8: Yeah, and on a day where I thought the best thing for the Jaguars would be their throwback uniforms, turns out they put up thirty seven points in almost five hundred yards of offense, and Trevor Lawrence kind of figures it out for the first time all year. Twenty eight out of thirty four, three seventy one, two touchdowns and a pick. That's the Trevor Lawrence to the Jaguars need, especially if their defense can't stop in those bleed as we learned in the fourth quarter and Tank bigsby thirteen for one oh one and two touchdowns. That is the offensive production we've been waiting to see from the Jaguars that we thought we might see. That we just hadn't come close to seeing until Sunday.

01:07:54
Speaker 6: What a day.

01:07:55
Speaker 8: Not gonna say it's gonna save it's it's gonna save Doug Peterson's job in the long run, because it's still not a great football team, but what a day. He knows a franchise and a fan base that desperately needed this.

01:08:06
Speaker 5: You just stay in the picture.

01:08:07
Speaker 6: You just never know.

01:08:08
Speaker 4: It's like the Saints this year. Just stay in the picture. You never know if you have a good season. We don't even know if they will. Doug marone, when he won a game as an interim head coach with the Jaguars, I always remember this. That one game got him the full time job, got him a whole other contract in like years of just stay in the picture because you don't know. They played the Bears next week. They'll be underdogs in that game, but the Bears aren't an unbeatable team. Then you got the Patriots after that. You stay in London. London saved their season last year, it turned it around. So you just never know, and you can tell Doug Peterson absolutely felt it. This was him talking after the game about a possible weight off Trevor Lawrence's shoulders.

01:08:46
Speaker 18: Well, I think there's a weight off everybody's shoulders, right, Yeah, not just him.

01:08:53
Speaker 15: It's a weight off of my shoulders too.

01:08:55
Speaker 8: Now you guys can get off my tail for at least a week.

01:08:58
Speaker 4: Everyone's laughing there, But I mean, I think Doug Peterson might have had it, might have come into this game feeling like he needed to win this game.

01:09:08
Speaker 7: And this was the best offensive performance, not even close the best offensive performance that the Jags have had other than a weird trev decision firing a ball in a triple coverage to Brian Thomas Junior. A solid game as he celebrated his twenty fifth birthday, and really it starts to feel like we're getting more.

01:09:25
Speaker 6: Tank bigsby in here.

01:09:26
Speaker 7: I know Travis etm was dealing with a shoulder injury in this game, but take big to be played great. They run awesome this year, and it's one of those things where you also got a spectacular performance because I know the Colts made play after play after play, but number one overall pick Trey Von Walker had a strip sack.

01:09:42
Speaker 6: Of Joe Flacco. He had the game ceiling sack of Joe Flacco as well.

01:09:46
Speaker 7: So the Jags defense made plays as well, Josh hans Allen was picked up and got the fumble recovery that got them three points.

01:09:53
Speaker 5: That is getting pressure all day.

01:09:55
Speaker 4: The funny thing is you look at Flacco's line thirty three for forty four for three fifth nine and three touch onns, and they were decent, Like for half this game. I was like, oh, the old you know, Okay, the magic's gone. Like Flacco's just like missing some open throws. He's looking pretty old when he's under pressure. And yet he got it all together at the end. Now I can almost hear the Colts fans yelling at the podcast. You know, do people yell at podcasts.

01:10:22
Speaker 5: I don't know.

01:10:23
Speaker 8: I do.

01:10:24
Speaker 4: Yes, They're like, can you mention the injuries? And yet it is fair to note the following Colts were not involved in this game. Anthony Richardson, Although at this point I think Joe Flacco runs a cleaner offense overall. I think that's fair to say, Like Josh Downs ends up nine for sixty nine in this game, you have those bombs to Pierce, Like, I don't know if that's a huge downgrade, but Jonathan Taylor, that's a huge, huge downgrade to Trey Sermon Quitty Pay is out, Kenny Moore is out. Their best cornerback Ebucom has been out all year, Taekwon Lewis is now on injured reserve. The Forest Buckner is on injured reserve. Juju Rents also out start their starting corner. And then they lost Will Fries who was filling in at tackle to what looked like a very devastating leg injury that he had to be carted off. And so I know a lot of teams have injuries, that's next level injuries, and their offense is making it happen despite it, and because hell, Joe Flacco just thrown it down there, because get Pierces down there somewhere.

01:11:27
Speaker 5: Let's listen in.

01:11:28
Speaker 4: Go Flacco in the shotgun formation, play action, good protection, He's.

01:11:34
Speaker 18: Got a feel for alt it thirty, he's in the twenty.

01:11:37
Speaker 16: Down the far side, like ten touchdown. Why I like Pierce with fireworks to the fourth corner. He strikes again. HiT's thirty four to thirty three, and the culture one point away from time to game.

01:11:52
Speaker 4: I just wanted to hear that crazy moment in the game at w f N. I Matt Taylor, Yeah, that that was the moment. I was just like anything is possible. I don't know what is happening in the Jaguars secondary. The first long completion to Pierce, which was initially called a touchdown and then they ruled it wasn't was just an absolute gorgeous dime.

01:12:12
Speaker 5: Flacco can still sling it.

01:12:13
Speaker 7: And Pierce had a one handed catch where he corrals the ball with one hand, actually knocks it away from a defender, and then catches it with his other hand.

01:12:20
Speaker 6: Those are the three targets. He had.

01:12:22
Speaker 7: Three targets, three catches, one hundred and thirty four yards, like, can we get can we get Alec Pierce some more targets?

01:12:29
Speaker 4: That's true, But on the other hand, you could look at it like that's the best three target game maybe in NFL history.

01:12:34
Speaker 5: I can't imagine.

01:12:36
Speaker 4: Although Randy Moss had yeah, okay, okay, this is there, this is there, like put this up with that Alec Pierce get it done. The Cults are at two and three. That feels about right for them for where they've been this season. The Texans open up, yeah, a two game lead in the division, and the Jaguars, who have been in four to one score games, finally get a victory.

01:12:57
Speaker 5: Before heading to London.

01:12:59
Speaker 4: Would the Bear do the same and really get us hyped up for the next game At the hot Toddy.

01:13:05
Speaker 6: Safeties are back deep snap to Caleb Williams.

01:13:08
Speaker 5: Good protection, lines it up for DJ Moore to the.

01:13:11
Speaker 17: End zone, perfect prow, perfect catch, touchdown.

01:13:15
Speaker 4: Bears.

01:13:16
Speaker 5: There you go, deep strike, get a thirty yard touchdown. Twenty seven to seven Bears.

01:13:23
Speaker 17: Second connection to the day with Dj Moore and the Bears are pulling away.

01:13:27
Speaker 5: From the Panthers.

01:13:28
Speaker 4: What Dj Moore goes five for one oh five, gets two touchdowns And yeah, Caleb heard everyone talking like, Okay, it was nice to got the win last week. Let's be a little more explosive on offense. Maybe let's win a game where you don't have to sweat it out. They did all of that thirty six to ten over the Panthers. Caleb goes over three hundred yards, very efficient on only twenty nine attempts. And suddenly this Bears team patrick kind of rounding into the team that they hoped they would be.

01:14:03
Speaker 7: And I'll go old football guy cliche time because it looks so different now. The Chicago Bears can run the football. They look competent up front, Caleb is making checks to run plays. They're positive plays. Caleb has time to do the Caleb Williams thing, the reason that we saw him drafted number one overall, where he's giving guys. Heasi's in the backfield, extending plays, getting first downs.

01:14:25
Speaker 6: Kind of going on adventures back there finding a receiver.

01:14:29
Speaker 7: Twenty nine, three hundred and four yards and two touchdowns. DJ Moore had a pair of touchdowns in the revenge game against his old team that traded him away. Trade looking good for the Bears at this point.

01:14:40
Speaker 5: Because that's an understand the.

01:14:43
Speaker 7: Bears, but honestly right because you see the control of Caleb Williams had against this game. I understand it's against an underman Panthers team that lost Tordavian Clowney in this game that the pass rush really wasn't there.

01:14:56
Speaker 6: When they did get there, Caleb was making the miss. But this was an all Bears game on offense.

01:15:01
Speaker 7: The defense gave their traditional Bears type performance, but they didn't need the heroics. Like Jakwan Brisker had an incredible hit.

01:15:08
Speaker 14: Wow.

01:15:09
Speaker 7: Yeah, worried about both him and Tommy Trimble because their heads kind of ran into each other. Neither player was intending to make helmet to helmet contact, but it's just one of those situations.

01:15:18
Speaker 6: Forced to fumble there, but they didn't need it that.

01:15:21
Speaker 4: It's also I'm glad you shouted out that Brisker play when people say like there's not physical football anymore in the NFL, Like I present to you Jaquan Brisker.

01:15:31
Speaker 5: There is kind of no one like Jaquon Brisker right now. He is very Bob.

01:15:35
Speaker 4: Sanders to me, and that's cool to have to have different flavors. This Bears defense is showing what really good defense is going to do. And they haven't been a great defense took They've been a top ten defense, but they haven't been like, hey, we're going to dominate.

01:15:49
Speaker 5: But when you play a team that's a little under man like the Panthers, they dominated.

01:15:53
Speaker 8: Yeah, on paper, this fell like a game that was going to be a get right game for the Bears on both sides of the ball and really a come back to Earth game for Andy Dalton and the Panthers because of that Bears defense, because of the defense that I think is just like quietly ascending and people aren't quite paying attention to him because they're focused too much on Caleb Williams in his first month and a half of his NFL career. But they've been solid, and this is the type of game where they prove, Look, we are the superior unit against this offense, and we're gonna prove it. We're gonna make Andy Dalton, you know, throw an interception, only throw for one hundred and thirty six yards Like that on paper, right there is like, Okay, that's what I expected from them. But what I didn't expect. What I'm really excited to see from the Bears is that DeAndre Swift was able to run the ball effectively. And it wasn't just him for two weeks in a row. You know, last week it was like a monumental moment when he burst through the line and sport touchdown. It really was right, it was It was because it just hadn't happened for them prior. Now they can kind of protect Caleb even when he's under pressure. Today he went five for eight for ninety eight yards. Had to pass already a one zero, five point two. Like once the running game opens up, it gives your offensive line a little bit of a breather because, look, we are allowed to actually run block because all offensive lineman want to run block, they don't want to pass blocked. And when they have to pass block, they'll be a little bit better at it because they're not spending the entire game doing it and picking up blitz. So this is the front that they needed to play without Jadavian Clowney to really get right. Caleb goes for over three hundred and Bears fans have to be feeling.

01:17:07
Speaker 5: I know.

01:17:07
Speaker 8: I have a friend who's a diehard Bears fan who was lighting my phone up afterwards just being send me a little fingernail paint emoji like, oh, Bears went on a Sunday, Oh, you know that type of thing in confidence right now.

01:17:17
Speaker 4: Well, he also knows zero Browns fan, so he's punching down. I don't think that's nice of him to do as a fan. A come back to Earth game for the Panthers, who I think kind of took a moral victory out of last week somewhat, and now Jalen Kocher was their leading receiver on the game. It's just disappointing because you're getting Deontay Johnson and Xavier get involved so much more a week ago, and with Dalton and Dalton kind of had to come back to Earth too in his revenge game. I mean, you got like a long touchdown run by Harvard to start the story to make it seven to nothing, and you're thinking, oh, this is going to be frisky. But Dalton ends up with one hundred and thirty six yards and a touchdown on twenty eight attempts, and Bryce Young ends up coming in in garbage time and having a drive that ends with a sack. At some point they're going to ask the questions, when does Bryce Young come back? I don't think that time is now, but I did see an article on the Athletic actually asking that question, which is interesting to.

01:18:11
Speaker 7: Be well, the answer is late in garbage time again, right at some point they mean, like to start the game.

01:18:16
Speaker 5: I think that will happen. They're one and four. Feel feels darker than most.

01:18:21
Speaker 4: There are a few teams now that we can kind of look around the league and we're going to talk about uh one of them coming up that one and four. It's already feeling like there's not much light at the end of the tunnel for the Panthers. That is not true about whoever was going to win the AFC West battle between the Broncos and the Raiders. Because the winner of that game was going to have a winning record through five weeks of the season.

01:18:46
Speaker 5: Let's find out who it was.

01:18:47
Speaker 13: Minshew under center, Minshew with a playfake rolling to his left, now floats one two high.

01:18:53
Speaker 5: It's going to be intercepting. Not to go line down the west sideline, intercepting. This is passer ten's going.

01:18:59
Speaker 2: To House College twenty five, twenty fifteen, ten to five touchdown.

01:19:05
Speaker 5: Ka Dave Logan.

01:19:10
Speaker 4: There was a penalty on that play, so then there was confusion, but it ends up counting.

01:19:16
Speaker 5: Yes.

01:19:17
Speaker 4: Patrick certain has one of the defining plays of his career and absolutely a game changing play. If you listen to that highlight and you didn't know who won, you might have thought, oh, it's Gardner. Minshew's gonna throw a touchdown to go up seventeen to three in a game that there's been almost no offense. Certain turns that around. Pick six ties the game at ten, and the Broncos role from there. They end up winning thirty four to eighteen. Gardner Minshew gets benched in this game. He struggled, and I think he just had his feelings hurt because Patrick Claybon in the newsroom was just cackling that he thought this was the worst threat he's seen in the entire season.

01:20:02
Speaker 6: It's tough to make it because it's a fourteen point swing.

01:20:05
Speaker 7: Yes, Pat Tutan is on top of Rock Bowers ready to make a tackle at the one yard line.

01:20:10
Speaker 6: Yeah, like that's what patstan is thinking.

01:20:12
Speaker 7: And Gardner Minshew airmails, I understand there's a defender in his face, but in defensive Jordan Love defensive Will Levis, Like, there's a player who has the potential of scoring a touchdown instead the other team scores a touchdown.

01:20:24
Speaker 6: Like that was the swing on this play.

01:20:26
Speaker 7: Like he threw the ball the only spot on the planet where the absolute worst thing possible could happen.

01:20:32
Speaker 6: That's why it's the watity.

01:20:33
Speaker 4: To me to that put that on the worst throw of the year real, And we're going to bring it up again at the meeting this week to see if that can officially become a thing.

01:20:44
Speaker 5: I guess you're right.

01:20:45
Speaker 6: Fullie Rodger turns his campra Yeah.

01:20:47
Speaker 5: I hope so.

01:20:47
Speaker 4: I It was a tough moment, and it's crazy how there was just like nothing for the Raiders after that. Christian Wilkins and Max Crosby were getting after it early in this game, and then Wilkins left with an injury, and after that there just wasn't much going on defensively for the Raiders. Bo Nicks I thought played well in the second half of this game. He was set up in positions to succeed. Javonte Williams ends up with sixty one yards on the ground. He leads the team in receiving with fifty, So that lets you know, like it wasn't a lot of huge plays from the Broncos passing attack, but you don't you do expect that. And one thing I will give Knicks credit for is that he is tough to sack, so he avoided some sacks, had one positive rushing play, but mostly just avoided mistakes. And they took over right now, like they're playing just good enough on offense and their defense is just a lot to deal with. They got Gardner Minshew benched, and Aidan O'Connell comes in and played worse frankly than Minshew did.

01:21:46
Speaker 5: I mean, Minshew moved the ball all day.

01:21:48
Speaker 4: He had the two interceptions, so I get why he was benched, but he's looked okay. This year, and O'Connell did not look okay playing in place of minshew. And we'll see who's the quarterback next week in Vegas. But does it really matter, Nick Cook?

01:22:04
Speaker 5: Do you think now?

01:22:06
Speaker 8: It's Unfortunately, it's bringing to life my biggest fear when they played that preseason game that was supposed to decide the quarterback competition and they were both awful, and Antonio Pierce couldn't even get to the press conference and make a decision in that moment because he knew they were both awful. This is the realization of that. Unfortunately for the Raiders, who are coming off of a high of getting a win, a low scoring win last week, and then getting smoked by a division rival. This Prago's defense is for real guys. You know, look, you gave up twenty six points in your season opener, but since then you gave up thirteen on a weird loss to the Steelers in which he had no offense. Since you've made trouble for Aaron Rodgers, Baker Mayfield and now both Gardner, Minshew and O'Connell, which is obviously a step down for the other two. But it just tells me that no matter where you are road or home. This defense is playing well, it's gonna be a problem for every team that plays against them this year. And it propelled them to victory. And it gave Bo Nix, who is about as predictable as the weather in Northeast Ohio this time of year when it comes to him playing on Sunday, gave him, you know, the patty he needed to be able to, you know, just kind of dot the field underneath and you know, work within the system and come away with a win. So another good win for them. They wore gorgeous throwbacks. It was a throwback. Oh yeah, well, hey man, there's not much I like more than a nice win and a good set of throwback uniforms.

01:23:18
Speaker 4: Okay, So that pick six, which which was fantastic, was you know, over one hundred yards. It's the first time in NFL history that we've had a week with more than two one hundred yard returns. And not only did that happen, they happened about five minutes apart, and they happened by a defender wearing the number two, So that that's a lot that happened in a short amount of time. It was fun in the newsroom this Broncos defense is making it that way. And you look at the score, it's thirty four points. The Broncos only had two hundred and eighty nine yards in this game, Like, how does that exactly happen? It happens with a twenty six yard field goal drive in the first half and then a thirty eight yard field goal drive in the first half. So over their first like seven possessions, all they had was two short field goal drives and five funds. And to your point about the defense, Nick, like that's a defense letting their offense eventually catch up to the game, and even then they were set up on short fields. The touchdown drives were only for fifty thirty nine and fifty eight yards, which is just outstanding field position, which came from the great defense, which came from the turnovers. Zach Allen had six quarterback pressures in this game, another sack. He is in all I keep saying all pro, all pros tough, but he's in the mix for all Pro and he's certainly had a Pro Bowl season. And then Riley Moss, who teams want to pick on because he's the other one opposite thirteen, is playing better every week and had an awesome interception in this game, a really athletic play there, and the Broncos are frisky at three and two.

01:24:51
Speaker 5: You know who else is frisky but bow Knicks. I mean, what did you think of that?

01:24:56
Speaker 4: Bow Knicks Sean Payton back and forth barking at each other the sidelines.

01:25:00
Speaker 7: I think, and honestly, because Bo Nicks was joking after the game, they're like, what was said? He said, I love you well. I think folks are kind of poopooing this. I think that's the right reaction. Like all sorts of things happen. There's helmet communication, there's discernment, there's agitation because Bo has Troy Franklin open for a touchdown and they don't connect in the end zone there. I think sometimes things just get hot, somebody says something cross something.

01:25:28
Speaker 4: I just like the body language because he was barking at Sean Payton, and if I was choosing like which player or I mean, which person like kind of bowed down a little more like bow Knicks was like in it, and Sean Payton was kind of like, whoa man, this guy is serious. Let's listen to Sean Payton after the game.

01:25:46
Speaker 19: It's part of the deal. Listen last year, all of a sudden, I was, It's just there's still a little bit of Ferrist Bueler in this player that we got to get rid of, all right, talking about bo and I love him to death and so sometimes it's my love language. All right.

01:26:05
Speaker 5: Wait, I don't get the Ferris Bueler reference.

01:26:07
Speaker 6: He's he's taking a day off. That's what Romeo Dops did.

01:26:10
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he talking about Ferris Bueler.

01:26:14
Speaker 12: He was.

01:26:14
Speaker 8: He was, you know, kind of a smart ass of a kid, like, you know, he's taking the day off of school and he's going around giving you all this life advice.

01:26:20
Speaker 5: But I need to get more context.

01:26:21
Speaker 4: Though then the follow up from that reporter needed to be like, what do you mean Ferris Bueler? I needed more context. Someone's got to explain it to me, but I frankly needed more. All right, let's go to the final game of the game day. I know it's your game, Nick, but probably the less set about this game, the better.

01:26:40
Speaker 20: Seconds left from Miyat He's thirty six short motion by Douglas from the left. The snap is back to percent, dropping back look into throat. He steps to his right. He sets up he.

01:26:50
Speaker 17: Fires down the little for Henry makes the catch on to ten. No, there's only three seconds or two seconds left. I'm not gonna have enough time to get another snap off. That's the why I haven't even win it by the fifteen to ten final. It's the worst loss since Tom Brady left the Patriots.

01:27:08
Speaker 4: Oh, Scott Zolac, that's the first time I heard it. I just said, get me Zolac on this, and I figured it'd be great.

01:27:17
Speaker 6: And it was.

01:27:18
Speaker 4: It was even greater than I imagine. That was Bob Soci on WBZ with Scott Zolac. Fifteen to ten. The Dolphins win the game, and look, I don't want to shortchange the Dolphins victory because Dolphins fans will.

01:27:32
Speaker 5: Be like, you gave us no time. You're just miserable that the Patriots lost. And no, I didn't. I didn't even watch this game.

01:27:39
Speaker 4: You explained to me what can be taken from it from a positive Miami Angle shocked.

01:27:44
Speaker 5: I mean it for I mean it for real, for real.

01:27:46
Speaker 8: I mean I wanted to talk about Zolac and his recency protected worst losses than this. Yeah, okay, that's the worst losses than this, and is Don Brady left. Let's let's keep it real. Here is Zolac. But no, the Dolphins pretty much everything that could go wrong went wrong for them in this game. They had a long snapper snap a grounder to their kicking unit to try to kick a field goal that didn't work. They had a missed kick as well, pretty short kick that went off the upright. Seemed like everything they try to do just didn't work well, but eventually they started to figure it out. In the second half, they put together a couple of field goal drives and by the fourth quarter, when the game was within five point we actually it was within one point ten to nine. Riveting moment they decide, you know what, We're actually gonna pound the run and it's gonna work. Because most of the day was dominated by the Patriots ground attack. No, it's Jalen Wright for a game plus ten Rahee mostered for a game of eighteen. Another Jaylen Wright carry, and then they get down by the goal line and who finishes it off none other than the fullback alec Ingold because fullbacks are people too, and he got the end zone to give them the lead. Tyler Huntley up and down better than he was the week prior, still missed some throws, still looked a little half hazard in the pocket. But I mean they won the game in a game that they should win, because the Patriots are not a good football team. I hate to say it. Look Jacoby President as tough as nails, and God, he deserves a medal after the end of the season for however long he plays, because he gets clobbered every week, and he got crushed plenty in this game, but he keeps standing there and throwing the ball. He also finished with one hundred and sixty yards, and most of those yards came in the fourth quarter. He actually threw a touchdown pass that was ruling complete because Jalen pul didn't get the other foot and bounds in the back of the end zone. That would have given them Patriots to win.

01:29:19
Speaker 5: But that was bad. That was a bad throw, wasn't it. I mean, if he was it was a little high.

01:29:23
Speaker 8: He was wide open there he puts If.

01:29:25
Speaker 4: He puts that on pop, they take the lead there with a very little, very little time remaining. I bet Zolac had a great reaction to that one. Let's actually listen to more Zolac. I don't know what this is but Eric just says, we've got more zolac, so this should be fun.

01:29:40
Speaker 6: Irobaly keeps going, it's.

01:29:41
Speaker 18: The worst loss since Tom Brady left the Patriots, and there puts a bats this team in excuse but loose, and this team at all one o'clock on a Sunday, we get a quarterback off the street to come in here and peat. You put stop the run, your p you're slot, and he can't move the ball. You're never gonna win games, score ten points and until you're ready to make decisions to change it, it's gonna be what it is. And maybe you started looking at tackles at the top of the draft next year.

01:30:13
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's what's he wanted them to do?

01:30:14
Speaker 7: Like if there were starter tackles that were available right now the Patriots, I guess what are the Browns would have gone and gotten them.

01:30:21
Speaker 4: There's nobody there right and the guys that are there got hurt. I think you could question the play calling in this game. Thirty four passes for the Patriots, averaging four point seven yards per pass, and I'm sure even lower if you you know, per passing play, if if you count the sacks, whereas they ran the ball nineteen times seven point nine yards per run. This is a rare game. And yes, you mentioned the Dolphins ran the ball. Well, that's what Mike McDaniel made his money off. That's how he got the head coaching job was from the running game. And they run for one ninety one in this game. So that Patriots defense really hasn't been too stout and that's what they were known for forever. But eventually they broke down after a whole lot of punts. And hey, you never know, Dolphins stay alive at two and three, Patriots at one and four. Anything more from you shook on this one.

01:31:10
Speaker 8: The Patriots offensive line is terrible, but we've talked about that already. I mean the interior, Oh my god, they just get blown up. Zach Sealer had a field day against this interior.

01:31:20
Speaker 6: It was bad.

01:31:20
Speaker 5: Zach Seeler is a great ballplayer.

01:31:23
Speaker 4: And yes, the pressure percentage for the Dolphins on this day fifty one percent. I didn't even I didn't know what it was going to be before I started that sentence, but I just knew they would come through it for me at at a hugely high rate fifty one percent, which is just yeah.

01:31:39
Speaker 8: Brissette he's been pressured at a rate of fifty percent or higher in three games this year. That is losing football, Scott, And you're not going to fix that overnight. No, But I do think you should play Drake may win so he can get crushed too. I think he'd get rid of the ball quicker and maybe and yeah, I mean play football. I think playing football is a good way to get better at playing football.

01:32:01
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think's the only way to get better at playing football, don't.

01:32:04
Speaker 8: I don't know it is.

01:32:05
Speaker 6: I got worse at playing football watching name.

01:32:08
Speaker 7: I think actually getting involved in the actual game is probably gonna be good for his development because you can actually develop.

01:32:15
Speaker 4: And I think it's coming soon. Wouldn't surprise me if it is this week. That's it for Patrick's contribution to the show. And what a contribution it was. Outstanding stuff. Nick Shook and Eye will wrap up and go to Sunday Night Cowboys Steelers. It was a late one four the ball game.

01:32:35
Speaker 1: Fourth and goal.

01:32:37
Speaker 6: Prescott in the Guns snap his back, he has some time. He throws it at the.

01:32:42
Speaker 2: End zone until touchdown to Jail October on the left side of the end zone, crossing in front of the Shawn Elliott with twenty seconds to play.

01:32:52
Speaker 5: Goodness gracious me, Yeah, that's Brad Sham on k.

01:33:00
Speaker 1: L D.

01:33:02
Speaker 4: One of the longest days in professional football history ends just before one am on the East Coast. Cowboys get the win, twenty to seventeen. Dak Prescott on fourth down, gets enough time, feels a.

01:33:21
Speaker 5: Little pressure from the right and just smooth shakes over to the left.

01:33:25
Speaker 4: Good job by him, finds Jalen Tolvert, who had a nice night on a play Nick Shook that decided who was gonna win and who is gonna lose. It's one of the things I love about football because based on the result of that single play, you were gonna get an entire week's worth of positivity in Dallas and a week's worth of negativity in Pittsburgh. And look, I think the Cowboys earned this one. Two big time drives at the end of this game. They ultimately almost doubled up the Steelers in terms of total yardage, and Dak Prescott gets a win in a night that you just thought was gonna go the Steelers way because they won so many games like this, but they didn't this time.

01:34:09
Speaker 5: Cowboys just a little bit better.

01:34:11
Speaker 8: Yeah, I felt like they might have played Renegade a little too early for the fourth quarter in Pittsburgh, but that's neither here nor there.

01:34:16
Speaker 5: They got an interception on the drive that follows it, so it.

01:34:19
Speaker 8: Seemed like it was right yeah, Voodoo magic that song. This was a night that was building toward being one of those doomsday Mondays in Dallas if they had not completed that pass on fourth and goal, primarily because they got within half a yard of the end zone and nearly fumbled possession away on first down, and then by the time they get to fourth down. You look back at earlier in the game when the Cowboys had three trips to the red zone and only one of them produced points. Fumble, field goal, interception, three in a row, all ended inside the Steelers twenty yard line. They only got three points out of it. They also had a blocked field goal. There were a lot of missed opportunities on the field, which explains why they nearly doubled them up in yards and yet they needed a touchdown in the final seconds to win the game. But overall, you cannot overlook the fact that Dak Prescott dug deep and led two huge drives in that fourth quarter and you know, a tip of the cap reco doubtle Man running way harder than his measurables would suggest. A run game finally getting you over for the Cowboys, which they lacked in the first month of the season. So a great win, overcoming some adversity on the road, a ninety minute delay which can really wreck you, you know, just having to wait that extra time after getting all warmed up and everything else. So they battled back into a great job.

01:35:31
Speaker 5: Yeah it was ugly.

01:35:33
Speaker 4: The first half was six to three at halftime, and the field was still a little sloppy after the rain and the lightning that yes, delayed this game for quite a bit, and yeah made it, I believe, about a fifteen and a half hour day of football if if you woke up like me on the West Coast, made a little coffee, went out in the garage. The game started around six thirty am and it finishes a little before ten pm, so we almost got sixteen hours of football.

01:36:03
Speaker 5: And you know what, like that was a good amount for me.

01:36:06
Speaker 6: I liked it.

01:36:08
Speaker 4: I mean, when this game was slow, I was like, okay, let's move it along. But that was a fun fourth quarter. The Cowboys like I said, go sixteen plays ninety five yards that ends at the beginning of the fourth quarter. That's maybe their best touchdown drive of the entire season. They get a stop, you think everything is going to be great, and then it's the interception that I mentioned. Steelers have probably justin Fields his best drive of the night. I think Fields has played out standing all year. Tonight was maybe not his best night overall. They didn't really get the running game going. They tried them on design runs early. But on that drive, you made good decisions, was accurate with the ball, gets it in for them to take the lead. It's a four point lead, and that helps the Cowboys be more aggressive, and they timed it out perfectly. That was like a five minute drive that ends with twenty seconds left, and yes, you would have liked it to be a little easier. When they get along the goal line, a Landon Roberts did his best Troy Polamalo impression, flies over the line of scrimmage, gets his helmet right on Rico Daddle when he's carrying the ball trying to score the touchdown. And again, if that ball just bounces differently on the turf, the Steelers recover and it's one of the greatest defensive plays of the entire season. Steelers win, but this time Dak Prescott Johnny on the spot is the one that recovers the ball and ends up throwing the game winner to Tolbert, who had a nice night. Seven for eighty seven was a bit of a theme other guys stepping up. Cavante Turpin was more active four for fifty in this game. You mentioned Dowdell Ferguson head seventy yards, So they spread it around. They had more of a power rushing attack. Shook, they said they we're going to give up on a little bit of that outside zone. Rico Daddle said, it's taken a while for us to find our identity. This worked out better for them and something for.

01:37:59
Speaker 8: The to build off. Yeah, and it was much needed balance because look, I mean Dak three for three fifty two, but he also threw for two interceptions to go along with his two touchdowns. Any offense is gonna better when you're balanced, when you have a threat on the ground and in the passing game, and that was massive for them in those two fourth quarter drives. Is being able to run the ball with authority for positive games consistently and not getting stonewalled by the Steelers defense that we know can be very good, and it was very good in the first half. They shut down one of the Cowboys trips to the red zone with a strip sack of Dak Prescott stop their momentum in their tracks. But the Cowboys were able to figure it out. And you know you talked about Ferguson, he made a huge catch on third down, kind of pivoting outside, catching the ball and then getting away from a defender for a massive first down to keep that drive alive. Because there were multiple instances in that last drive where the Cowboys were this close to stalling out, this close to being forced into uncomfortable fourth down situations, and it wasn't until they had that fourth and goal that they actually had to deliver. And again a night where other guys that you typically don't mention made the contributions. Tollbart on the Dallas side, I mean Pittsburgh George Pickens was pretty quiet all night, and yet they still managed to put seventeen points on the board and hold this lead until the final minute. So every time, you know, every game we play is not always going to feature the stars even if the stars the ones that attract the eyeballs, sometimes it's about the lesser known guys and that was definitely a theme tonight.

01:39:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pickens finally made a big play on that final touchdown drive, but otherwise was silent. They were running out these heavy personnel packages with two sometimes three tight ends and he was not on the field for those plays, and so he actually had less routes run than Van Jefferson in this game. And Naje Harris is their leading receiver with thirty five yards. They're going to need to be better on offense. I think Fields has actually covered up a lot of offensive line and schematic deficiencies for this team, and it ended up showing up in this game when Fields maybe wasn't quite as sharp. He throws for one hundred and thirty one yards in two touchdowns. I think the he the second half actually was Nate Herberg or Nick Herberg getting hurt, because yeah, he led this game in pressures. Actually, he had more pressures than TJ.

01:39:55
Speaker 1: Watt.

01:39:55
Speaker 4: You mentioned that strip sack that was really a combined effort between him and t. Watt, And once Herbig was out of the game, they're sending extra attention to Watt, who wasn't quite as active, maybe wore down a little at the end of that game and weren't quite as deep on the defensive line.

01:40:12
Speaker 5: So the Cowboys gets done. Huge game.

01:40:15
Speaker 4: In terms of managing the season, their schedule coming up is tough. They were about to be two and three going against Detroit next week. That would have been rough to deal with. Like there was a couple potential losses. This really just stems the tide, calms things down. Three and two is fine in this NFC, where like I said, almost everyone has two wins or three wins. They've got three and yeah, the Steelers fall back. That lead in the AFC North was gone quickly. They are now tied with the Ravens at three in two and what a day, Chucky.

01:40:48
Speaker 8: I gotta say a shout out to Mike McCarthy, a guy who has no infamous for screwing up clock management situations at the end of games, played it perfectly tonight. Good for you Mike back home, In case you didn't know by the broadcast, which reminded you about fifty times, he's from Pittsburgh and he did a good job back at home.

01:41:06
Speaker 4: It's the new Jerome Bettis is from Detroit. But you're absolutely right, and it was in a game. By the way, the Steelers could have desperately used those timeouts. Not only did they blow on right at the end when they were trying to get together before the goal line played, but they blew a couple what they didn't really need to earlier in the fourth quarter and had nothing left at the end to try to make a miracle drive that will do it for our show. Appreciate everyone who made it this far in the show. We will be back on Monday Night. This week is going to be a little bit different of a schedule. Nick's not with me Monday night, giving him the night off. Bridget Condon, Who's going to be with me on Channel five. If you're in the UK, watch me on Monday Night Football Monday Night. She's gonna run upstairs. Then we're gonna do Monday Night Football recap in the Chris Westling podcast studio.

01:41:57
Speaker 5: Until then, you know, football's back.