Kill Your Lawn Recap
Very little botany-related content in this session with Al Scorch during an interim during the shooting of Kill Your Lawn Season 2 in College Park, Maryland
2023-10-22
65 min
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And welcome to another episode of the Crime Pays but Batanitas and podcasts where they don't break that ibnoxious Chicago accent for nearly the whole damn ninety minutes and here we go. And you know, so that was what I was telling them. I said, you know, this is a complex issue. This is a a multifaceted thing going on here, and a lot of people what they don't seem to understand. You know, you got there's a lot of moving parts through it. That's right. People are think they got a grasp on it. But at the end of the day, you know, nonetheless more or less when you boil it down, you know, to put a button on it, you know, it's basically it doesn't mean anything. Yeah, there's a lot of aspects to it, right, and people aren't seeing this. It's multifaceted. Like I said, you know, people aren't seeing what's really going on here. You know, they think you just look under the hood of a Chevy and you just start thinkering around that it's going to start working for you. But that's we know, that's not how it works. No, that there there's multiple facts there is that are influencing a variety of concepts that are really underpinning a lot of what's going on, and people don't understand that. And you know I'm not, you know, with all respect, I'm not trying to you know, I'm not without saying anything about you specifically, the behavior that I did see exhibiting was less than ideal. I'll put it that way, right, And you know, I you know now that we've got you here, you know, we don't really we don't want to make you feel bad. And by don't get don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying that I don't respect you. It's just that you know your personal choices and your way that you carry your life, and and you associated with, associate with problem the ideas you purpot. You know, it's not that I don't respect you. If you've been listening to I'm a speaker as well, I mean we got to talk about that later as well. It's not that I don't respect it. It's just that I don't hold any respect for it, right, this stuff, right, any of those things, So that we don't hold any respect for any of those right right exactly, and we don't don't feel bad. I don't get confused. It's not that I don't respect you. It's just that I don't have any respect for you, right exactly, And you know, and I just you know what, the way that you've been putting things, some of the ideas you've had, for instance, you know where this is going, you know, with all due respect again, by all means, you know, no if we are certainly not trying to imply anything negative about you, no, right, no, no, we're trying to apply anything negative about you. It's just some of the stuff you've been doing and listening to, and the people you've been associating with, and basically everything you say and all the ideas you're putting on a table just not working for us. Yeah, everything you believe in, everything you hold dear, the way you communicate, you're very you know, uh personal, right, what we take to be your ethos. You know, everyone's got to and that's fine some people that's fine, that's fine. You know, we just don't. We just don't have any respect for it. Now, we don't disrespect it, We just don't have any respect for it. Well, anyway, now that we got that settled, hell, do you want to talk about where we are and what we're doing right here? Now. Well, you know, I really wish that the listener at home could come experience this with us. We are in some beautiful eastern woodlands in the state of Maryland, a college park, Maryland. We're back behind a hotel. We're in some bummy woods. I kind of wish there was a blue tarp back here. That's not a blue tarp, definitely like a little fire gone. Yeah, you know, the sun is setting. We're in the dusk. You know, we're entering civil twilight. I'd say at the time of the day. We're here at civil twilight in the in the woods of college Park, Maryland. Behind you want any beer? I do. And we're drinking some beers. We're drinking some men a beers and we're and we're you know, Town's doing a stoke, which is a habit he picked up. Tell man, don't don't really don't. You don't want it. Let's find out. So you you guys heard it here first. If you know, if you've seen this in a video and you think it's a prop well it started that way. And why we can't break the Chicago accident. This part of a psychosis. Right now, we're sure we've been you know, just you know, we've just been workhorses for for this goofy TV show that no one can watch. I mean, well they might as well bury it under one hundred feet of concrete. They're only showing it on cable. So you know, we're just this is we're in the depths of psychosis now, that's right, right, we're stuck, you know, and uh, you know really like uh you know, like we say it is a coping mechanism and uh, you know, uh, because you know, I don't you know, with this media stuff. We're doing stuff online and what have you do a little podcasts with your stuff. There's a lot of people out there, right and you know, at the end of the day, eating the landscapers. It hasn't been that much habitat out here. And I'll spend a lot of time in the suburbs, which we don't jipe too well with. You want to tell them about that. Oh, it's a lot of time out here, you know. It's a lot of time driving for one, right, really good for your circulation system, you're good for your mind, for your emotions, you know, and meeting suburban type people who are nice enough, they're fine, you know, they're fine, They're totally fine. We're not seeing you know, nothing wrong with it. No shape, man, no shape, no disrespect. Shade to the suburbs, right, that's fine that the suburbs exist. I feel better if they didn't. But you know, no shade to the suburbs. The car slum, the vehicle slum. You know, the cities without sidewalks, you know, eight lane roads, plastic signs, mode grass lawns, giant parking lots, massive shopping plazas. Right, just terrible for the health, mental, emotional, spiritual and physical. Yeah, kind of just devoid of anything that's sustained. Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with that, you know, right, except everything We're just we've been really in it, you know, in the depths of how you like that. Oh and this was the point in which at which toning out, they they just got down on our knees and they just and they just, uh, you know, begged Lagaanitas for a sponsorship for the non alcoholic guy P and A I p A. Right, you know, we talked to those athletic guys. They got a whole line. But you know, for for those who see that, for those who enjoy to taste the hops, but see a problem with alcohol, you know, yeah, or have a problem with alcohol themselves, but they want to imbibe seven to nine beers a night, right, and not to the detriment of their relationships and or organ health. I've never I've never actually had more than three nas at once, but I do. Yeah, maybe maybe once, maybe that day by the woods with the caboose, right, you may because I still get like sugar stick with that, or you're playing with the mic. I asked you not to futch around with the mic. I asked you not to do you know, you futch it around with this stuff. That thing's gonna come down. I love when you go when you go straight into Italian Uncle Moude. I'm fucking losing it, man, I'm really, I'm really at the end of my you know, we got four more days of this. Let's do this shoot four episodes in seventeen days with one day off, and you could just not think. I can't wait to get my mind back. I can think about other stuff. It's really immersive. It's quite immersive, and it's just you wake up and you're like, what am I doing today? Oh? Yeah, I have to go be somewhere at eight am and talk to someone, not that we go there at eight am, not that we're actually there, right, We try to make a policy to be a little late, you know, And that was something that I was really happy to experience, you know, where you're just like, you know, let's pump the brakes. Yeah, it's just it's it's what we used to do with the railroad, you know, you just take a little more time. It's a it's called self care. Right, that's right. I'll drink to that. Oh god, damn the stuff hanging out in the subven and there's really not much have that but to be here in the fall, these beautiful autumn leaves. Yeah, we were here for the turning in these woods over ridden with invasives and deer, so many, Right, I got spooked by a big stag. There's a big stag back there. That's where the ticks come from, too. Got every one of those fucking deer's probably got eight nine ticks on it. Yeah, there's there's as many bed bugs this is at this hotel. There's the fucking I've only I haven't been fucking with the motel breakfast. I'm probably I'm just just the oatmeal and I got some frozen berries. I haven't I haven't gazed at a waffle or you know, dipping my toes into the biscuit and gravy scenario. You know, because there's stuff. You know, it's off from a bag. You know, it's basically Amtrak right, food car food right. You know, there's some you know, sixty year old man wearing a little flat you know, train hat with a apron on, and he's back there in a little stainless steel gally kitchen. He'll microwave you a pizza, right, you know, but it's gonna kill you and you don't want to talk to you. No, you don't want to do that. This I will say, though, This fucking little trail back here is nice. This really made it. I mean, when you got when you don't know what to do, you just got to take a walk. You just hit this little hiking trail and it goes on down to the college. You could walk for fucking eight miles if you wanted to. Yeah, it's great if every city had one of these. Can you imagine how much better mental health would be people could just take a walk, you know. Yeah, it would just be the kids, you know, doing pot and the bushes, you know, but it's a stewing pot out here and doing a podcast here. So you know, something I really like about this walking trail is is at the start of the spur that we're by just starts in the back parking lot of like a really sketchy storage unit places. Like, yeah, it's fine, you know, it's good. It's like in the cut, you know. Yeah, man, you know, if every city, every city should have this, like the opportunity to walk, there's not even the opportunity to fucking walk. And in ninety percent of the United States, the Carson Chicago, really I wish they would have kept more woods in the city, I know, I mean they kind of fucked that up. Yeah, you just save a little bit, save a little bit of habitat, you know. Yeah, it was really they could have they could have saved some more Minneapolis. They did a good job. They kept some woods in the city. Should we should we talk about the show? Because no one listening is probably gonna ever be able to watch us since it's on cable. Should we talk about the I'm being totally serious. It's like the four episodes we had all the fucking landscapers we fought with. There was two that were cool, and they were two that were kind of hard. It's like last time in Chicago there, I just the fucking landscaping thing drives me nuts. It's just like, such a fucking guy. Never again. I want nothing to do with landscapers. I never thought i'd have anything to do with landscapers. You know. And for every ten you get, there's like two or three that are cool, that are people you probably hang out with outside of it, like Howard you know, Gamel Gibson down are in Miami, Jeremy and Jeremy, Oh the fucking two Jeremy, and then Hidden the gave Jeremy, and then Jeremy in Chicago who got hidden A gave Jeremy who got stiffed for that damask sculpture that looks like a Tesla charger. You know, I'm counning on the guy that that owns and both made the sculpture not listening to this, and if if you are, I'm very sorry. I'm pretty sure either of those people want. And then there was the Jeremy we met today that look he looks like the guy that was in that band Weed Eater, or he looks like he's got a look. He's got that beard. He looks like he's in a stoner metal band from Richmond. That is for sure. Fucking guy. I couldn't believe that makes his own soil out of biochar and decomposed woodships, grows all his own ship from seed. He is some sort of damn wizard. I think. What fucking blew my mind is that he goes and catches invasive catfish and then he fucking liquefies them and then ferments that ship for eighteen months with a bunch of molasses. Can you eat that? Would you eat that stuff? You wouln't want to eat? The catfish depends, But he makes it fertilized. What if you got the catfish from the Potomac. There's probably some nasty ship on there they're filtering. Oh, he makes it with Wait why he makes fertilizer. He doesn't eat them? Fuck, that's what he makes, fish based fertilizer. He goes, he said, he goes with his little son and a fish in the creeks by his house and they pull out like buckets with his son with his son. Yeah that wasn't his son though. No, No, we're going to this guy with my stogy smoked. Fuck, it's you know, yeah, yeah, he's you know, man, he's you know, it's fine. I hate smelling cigarettes, but once in a while the cigars not too bad. And I'm not I'm quitting this next month. I'm not doing Stogy's no more. Yeah, it's you know, that was the thing that it, you know, cats out of the bag. It started as joking. It did start as a joke, and now it's it's taking the life of its own. And now I'm becoming a cliche. You know. There's my age as I get older with the fucking Italian thing. Like with the cameraman today, when I noticed, I said, he's not going to get that bottle of fucking green tea. I already had one, but I said, I'm going to take another because I seen him take mine last week. I remembered, you know, and I said, you know, I know what he's doing, the interior life of a geriatric. I know, if you knew, if you knew what was going on up there, and the and just the plotting, you know, like, oh you mean in my brain, Yeah, the calculation things he's sold on to different mental maps and the era of you know, slights and grievances and to be fair, to to be fair. This is the only time I get identitarian at all, is this is this comes with my identity. You know. This is a hereditary thing. This is I got no control over this. This is what the epigenetics and my my half Italian inside. You know, there's something, there's something going on over there. That's what I got you. That nice nice Jerry etc. Guidos sweater I got you. Yeah, it's like a nice long sleeve, little three button collar. You it's a very nice gray marino wall when when wearing one of those that I feel like that that's kind of like a like a you would wear that to Thanksgiving because it's kind of a winter sweater, you know, but it's dressy, a little dressy, but you know, you wear it with some chinos and like, you know, it's like a lake call. It's not you could do it at Christmas because it has the red. You know, you could also be Christmas sweater. Right, So it's flexible like that, it's fluid, but it's casual. You're not wearing a tie, you know. No, No, I never never, never do that unless we were dressing up as Mormons, and which we did too. Yeah, a lot of people they didn't understand them thing when they saw little bits of it. They didn't really get the work. No, but I think that's fine. That makes it funnier. They don't just understand it. They didn't really understand. Well. I think people don't expect to see like comedy sketches in a fucking I guess this is technically a home and garden show. Guy. That sounds terrible to say this is technically a garden show. Is I think it's a God. That's fucking awful. God that makes me want to drink my own piss mixed with fucking cyanide and thankfully a lot Anita's I p non as. No, they don't yet. It's good sponsored. I tried to get sponsored by what's that moisturizer company? I forget what it was. They wanted nothing to do. It was fucking uh. I made a spoof ad on them where I talked about how if you put this fucking moisturizer on your face, you look like a pedophile. You're all like sweaty. And I was like, I figured where I did it a couple of years ago. Yeah, No, I don't think they're gonna I don't think they they bit you know, he said, hey, guys, you should sponsor me. Look, I made you. I made you a fucking no god, I can't remember the name of it. My friend Erica gave me a bottle, this moisturizer. No, no, no, no, it wasn't scented. It didn't have a scent in it. It was like, because he used to get real dry in them deserts, you know, real dry. Wasn't Sara v it was. I forget the fucking name we had. Hilarious, had hilarious name. It was a little pump bottle. But then I learned that there was this thing and they put this compound in. It makes a little photo sensitive. And I said, that's enough funk that it makes you photos Yeah, like it, she says after the sun. Why the fun would you someone who's moisturizing, What a funk would you put some weird photo dermatitis ship and a moisturizer? What was the name of god? I ca oh, youseritten didn't take Yeah, you know, I don't think I'm the demographic that they're going for. I think it's more like a you know, vanilla middle aged housewife thing. You know, got the fucking speaking oways to the landscapers. I want to talk about the vibe here in Pathesta because I feel like it's it's such a fun vibe for someone like me to just bum out and I don't even have to try. I just be myself. It's like the North Berkeley vibe. I call it the pouty faced older white woman vibe. But and you know, that's no shape to anybody. I know plenty of cool old white ladies obviously. Yeah. Yeah, but it's definitely here. It is present. How would you describe that? Nothing about botany in this podcast, By the way, we're just talking anthropologically. You know, uh, DC is one of the most uptight places I've ever been in the DC metro area. You were familiar with this. I wasn't familiar here a few times. I've had friends living here for a while, so I've come through a lot. And yeah, I've noticed that immalily. People like look at your shoes. People like look at your shoes and how dirty they are, and like they look at your clothes, like if you haven't had a hair cut. Stuff. They just look down on you. People don't smile at you. People don't like greet your eyes and you say hello on the street. You know, it's not like a really classes, very classes, very classiest. Everybody's like, I'm seeing the line there. You go, Okay, you could do it. Hit the button. Is it still going don't hit the button. I hit the I hit the button. Yeah, but it's like, uh, it's like everybody is either works on Capitol Hill, they work around Capitol Hill, and lawyers, lawyers, lawyers, lobbies, policy makers, and then the people wh even the people who like work in the service industry here are all have to you know, kind of be that kind of presentable, you know, to serve those people. So it's yeah, the the state of dress or the level of dress that you have to just have casually every day. Here is a lot worlds apart from where we were this think they're in America from where we were birthed. You know, yeah, yeah, you could definitely be a sweatpants slob in Chicago and be treated with the same respect and possibly even slightly more than like the person behind you with a tie on, you know that is truated with respect. Say you're waiting line somewhere like you have like an unbuttoned polo shirt and there's like literally like some onions on. Yeah, you know, sour kraut whatever you're ethnic. Uh, you know condiment dish of choices, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just sweatpants and like untied sneakers that are like way too dirty and you know, just you know, comfortable clothes, you know. Yeah, I'm sorry smokers, No I like it. I I yeah, it's that's you know. Yeah, Tobacco is a cool plant. That's the that's the cool thing. And at pote ceremony, I told you when they gave us those fucking corn the corn husk, and you you put some tobacco in it that gave you the taste the first time I've had a cigarette in like almost ten years. Ship and then here months later, now you're smoking something different. But then they take it away from you. They let you just get a couple of puffs on that Excuse me, excuse me, they get like you get a couple of puffs in that corn husk cigarette, and then they take it away from you and you put it back in a you know, put it back in a fire and whatever. It's just rich ritualistic rather than daily. But these stories are actually I don't actually hail these. Yeah, that nicotine though, once it once, it's gotcha. Your brain's like, I'll never forget the flavor. Yeah, it's just a flavor, man, It's nice, you know it, and it compounds in there just you know, you got nicketinoid receptors, receptors, you know, just get a get a little headache from it too. Yeah, especially with that, you get the smoke and the whole like chawing on the really showing on it and like chewing on it. You know, you get all the yeah they're smoking and you yeah during the unhands drunken crab fisherman bit. Yeah, you'll have to hopefully someone will upload these to fucking if What do you think Earth I s Would say if they caught us talking about pirating our own show, which I have not had anything to do it. I'm just talking about the fact that it has right. I didn't fuck I certainly even fucking uploaded. I don't have access to it. I didn't do any of that. I don't know how to do that stuff. I don't know how to do any of that stuff. But but it is out there, so hopefully, well I don't want to say that because there it's out there, and now it'll probably someone probably do it with Season five dispute. If somebody told me, they showed me it's out there. I just can't believe they put it on cable, like no one can watch it. No one can watch it. Yeah, I think it's it's they were trying to they were they were deciding to be a streamer or a cable channel, while all the streamers were like conglomrating last year. I got in dragged twice and no one can watch it, you know, but people watch cable needs to see you and drag. Yeah. A bunch of boomers trying and say we're grooming their kids because we dressed up like old ladies. I hope they do, you know, honestly, I hope they do. Yeah, the goddamn groomer. But you know, people gen X people are like fifty, you know now, and so it's like they're kind of loose. Yeah. Yeah, but they moved to the suburbs too. I don't know if they get cable, they gotta they got a sling or something. Yeah, these say like some technology for like fifteen years ago. It's like, what do they got a sling or they got a room back what you know, for the for the channels. Oh and like like a no you no, like a rool, like a box you get they like they're having like a bathhouse. You know what you know, I know what you're doing there. I know what you're doing there where your mind goes the center. Explain what a fox ling is? You filth bag, fucking dirt bag. You know. I listened to this just for the plants. I mean, he's really obnoxious and he's got a you know, a I don't get the whole Chicago stick. But and once the time he's got good plan information on there. But really this one was just unhand. It was just obnoxious. They were They didn't talk about anything related by me. It was just very There's episodes that I'd skip the I just I just want to hear a podcast about beams, and I felt like I'd been mugged. That was a proud comment. I got got to look at these beaches though, the Vegas Grand the Folio. That's my first time ever getting you know, getting cuddly with Vegas Grand the Folio. Oh yeah, deliciously so oh yeah that what happened to the rest of the mushroom. We got it really, Oh you still got it? Yeah, it's still good. We got it in the bag. We can check on it. We can check on it. But it's been it's been in a double layer brown paper bag, in a sack, in a brown double layer brown bay in the woods here. That's that sounds good. But it's been in the bag and refrigerated, and it was pretty it was a pre mature fruit it was talking about. So it was wood hockey. Yeah, yeah, right, that's what we're talking about for anyone less than beautiful my hockey. One of the most delicious mushrooms found under these beautiful beaches. You're right, it's way better with the butter too, not the ali. It's been settled. The bit has been settled. Was like, I'm thinking it's like jardonara and stuff, you know. Oh yeah, wish Trader Joe's would have jardanira. It's you can't get it outside of Chicago. The region you get it like northwest Indiana and southern Wisconsin probably but right, but you can't get and probably you know the rest of northern Illinois out bite Joe Davies County you could probably get some beautiful fucking woods though. Man, the East Coast forest vibe, it's all deciduous woodland, the only openings having been created by Native Americans. They kept on that stuff. They burned it, they cleared it, they did their agriculture, they did all kinds of animal husband dream what you imagine how fucking bumm they'd be to see what's happened to their land. Cars. I think they are. I think they are. You could ask them, they're still They're still here. I know, I know, I know. I'm talking about people who actually, like the seventeenth century. Yeah, I'm not talking about like, you know, just some of the hams to be Native American, but like works as a plumbers and right right right, like yeah, people that lived and fucking yeah yeah, the oh gs, but like sixteen hundred people like, oh, this is what they do? You guys do They'd say, Jesus Christ, he's fucking sick. They know it was sick. Yeah, I mean the sick from the beginning. They were like what are you doing? Yeah. They had such vicious takedowns. You like read some of the first hand sources of what these chiefs were saying. It was just like, wait a minute, I feel that way too. I was raised in this ship. But uh yeah, man, I don't know. It is nice being in these forests. It's still fucking ninety five where I live. Oh yeah, I can't wait to be done with this. Yeah, I can't wait to get done and not think about it because normally we go to habitat, but there's no habitat out here. Really. Yeah, what did Jeremy the landscaper say today? He said, what habitat about? It was all turned to agriculture. This is where the honky death culty. Yeah, the European Settlement started. All of that John Smith's stuff is just skip and a jump. They didn't and they didn't say nothing. You know what's it called? The manifest Destiny on that ship was here for and all that stuff, yeah, titled and just yeah did all kinds of terrible stuff. Murdered people, just destroyed the landscape. Going to the fucking museums here, it is nice though. Yeah. We should go tomorrow, so yeah, and we should. We should sneak up somehow. There are we doing tomorrow or we're planning. We're planting at the church. Yeah, we got to plant some stuff there. I guess just if you don't want to plant, don't worry. Just hang out with me while I do it. You know, the plantings, the planting is fine, but I'm like, they blow off the plane because tomorrow we're going to the uh uh, the that national because there's two, the National Botanic Garden and oh yeah, the US Botanic Garden. We're going to the one that that lady got mad at me for touching the pavonia. Remember I told you that one. Yeah, she said don't touch it because if everybody touched, I said not, everyone's touching it. First off, that's how you learn. His hands on learning. I'm like trying to take a picture of this thing and I'm holding the branch. I can get a you know, good photo and then excuse me there, Jesus Christ really like a yeah, scolded by a docent or she I don't know if she worked there whatever, you know, it's like, really, come on, man, care, I'm gonna put this thing down. I'm not ripping it off. I'm gonna be out of here and not going to come back. And you know, fucking ten years you can see me again, to see for a minute and a half, but now she might see you again. Yeah, now you might see me again, and I'm gonna be just as annoying as the first time. So they got a lot of good stuff. They had out strong below, Donnie. They're really it's just really weird. P it's got these, it's got pended INFLI It's yeah, it's a Philippines and tended in Florence. And they call it the blue You need yea. Let me make sure this thing is still doing this? Is it still what he's got? They don't want to listen that. No one wants to listen to this. Let me. I want to hear his goofing here. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes, they got a strong gloat on there they got they got some nice stuff. They got some interesting stuff. They don't have an amberella, which is like at the base of the angiosperm family train. Let me get that real quick. Yeah, yeah, I just I just didn't want to tear up your pliers here. I can, like you just pick at it like that. There's no just a little full crumb, you know. Yeah, yeah, it's just getting you know, let's get it a little purchase area. There are nice, man, they are. I wonder if they do they make these at the chicag Brewery. I don't know, do you get it open? Yeah? Thank you, And they make it in the California. I hear you. You guys creeping poor bastards too. It's not their fault. All the predators have been wiped out. They're over populated, just walking pick farms on hooks. You know. They put some deer stands up in some pretty uh close to residential places out here. I notice you think they're shooting them. I think people they may they may do some bows. They got a call. There may be some they'll land up. They'll just end up getting smacked by cars and just you know, nick everything down. They might be run over by Mercedes and Chevy Chase Maryland. We couldn't have that. What a fucking vibe, man, that was? That Bethesda ship was unreal. Everyone wearing a padagon your vest, yeah, or like a tie on a Sunday morning, just like the palest people, pale in face and in heart. Yes, I see hearts. You know they're probably suffering out of you inside too. Let's recommend Bethesda for I'm candidate for mass testing of NDMA therapy. So the sucybin and aquifer approach to mass dose. You don't need to act like that. Are you trying to seek validation and feel like you're better than other people? It really might be a nice way to showcase your own void and holes on the inside of your spirit. Let's address those first and you can become a more compassionate, loving individual. Just patch them up like drywall. Life puts holes in the in the drywall, spackling putty for your soul. Slather it on there, you know, you know, ton, As we sit out here in the darkening woods of civil twilight, as you puff a stogie and wear a pattered Vietnam fatigue jacket and we speak of dose in the water supply, I start to wonder if we've gone off the edge. My friend, this is this is the Vietnam bat jacket that's got the pocket sowed on the inside. I'm real proud of that. When I was six, I saw the pocket the size of a spray canty inside of this coat and would use it for graffiti tools and as well as illegally procuring such things that big box stores in the Chicago area. A bag is conspicuous. You got a vape pet? Oh yeah, I don't even know weed was legally here in d C. And Maryland. Yeah, both places. It's cool Virginia too, isn't it. Then we then we see it. I saw a cannabis dispensary, but you know, I forget what side of the Potomac, but like an actual dispensary, not like a sketchy cbe d vape shot right right, not like somebody's uh talk about that. That was it? Delta nine? What's the fake ship? Delta eight? Delta n didn't I remember you got really pizzo about some Delta nine weed and you were like, what is this? I think so, yeah, it was gummies or some Yeah it was. You know, there's some corner stores in Chicago, I think where they just put the regular gummies in the quote unquote Delta eight bags. And really yeah, they're just kind of like, oh, they're they're trying to be the fake they're saying it's the fake ones. They're saying they're saying it's a fake one so they can sell it openly. Right, you'd want to get moving, hold on, I got to pack up then if you want to. No, I'm just standing up. I'm just shifting. I'm just shifting around. Yeah, I can't remember where were we we were we spent the first week and that was that was a true car slum. This is walkable. It's got these trails before what was the oh uh something Mills Owings Mills, Oh yeah, by Baltimore. That was rough. Yeah that we never went saw the John Waters neighborhood. I never went and saw any of that stuff, the spot where Pecker was filmed and didn't get a chance to do anything, which fucking working. Yeah exactly, man. Yeah, I wanted to see Camden too, and to the different we go to downtown Baltimore and go to the wharf and stuff like that. But yeah, it's just a grind and it's like it at the end of this stuff when you're just like talking all day and interacting with people, it's like takes it out of you mm hmm. And then it's just like you got you got nothing left. It's funny though, we have had the meats and like rather stiff people like you're fucking stiff, not loose loose is like like stiff, like they were like, well, Heath quirky. Maybe you know they're they're not not someone that invite into my house. They're quirky, you know, I don't know, I don't know. I'm not saying I just definitely I was, you know, holy ship, they were willing to meet with us that It's amazing, you know. So it's like the vibe is that the vibe we necessarily want to put out for the show, you know, I think somebody sometimes I wonder if that vibe from people is because they're kind of like nervous about going It could it could be that it could be that where they're just like, oh, this is really intense and not something I do right where you and I are like somebody point a camera. We have no self respect, so we're willing to embarrass ourselves. No, we think our jokes are funny, and we found people who enjoyed kidding. Yeah, I really I don't give everything. I'm fine with I'm fine capitable do I just you know, it's it's all the same to me. Whatever. But yeah, sometimes I think people are nervous and it comes off as like it might be being tight, you know, like, but there is There have been a couple of times where like you crack a joke in there, you know, like a certain flavor of joke and you could go there depends, Yeah, which channel of joke, right, But uh, I don't know. It's cool. I mean, I'm hopeful. I'm just I'm hopeful about the quote unquote movement picking up more kill your lawn movement. Yeah, it's real talking to these nursery owners, talking to these landscapers loss to Like, there was a bunch of places, what was it, a summerset, small little town in chevy Chase. They were. Now, it's you can't if the city can't plant non native plants in their landscaping, it's got to be natives. Yeah. And so that Japanese barbering and all that stuff you ripped out, that was like the last gasp of landscaper builders special. Oh god. Yeah, they put these houses and then just fill them with with fucking just a famous ship because their house was kind of new and they had they had these you know, brand new plants that were like you put in a year ago, and they were like awful home deepo atrocities. Japanese barbary like ship that ends up in a forest. Yeah, would end the wild right here. English Ivy. That's a fucking nasty one. You know, sold this, I've seen it soul. There's like little like planter pots. You know, you could get it like the fucking Hallmark store or whatever. It's a little bits of English ivy and like a little figurine in there with fucking oh yeah, we'll kind of like a little you know, it's like a little precious moments like a smile and waving frog and all, Okay, it's got a cute little thing in there. It's not like it's you know, it's not like uh my uh first grade graduation or the kid pissing one happy Yeah exactly, the grandma's day Dutch boy. Yeah, exactly exactly. Once you get a nice you know, uh uh peeing angel child. Oh you know kind of some people are into that, I guess, you know, like the little ping fountain or the fountain comes up here right, they're all like, you know, what if you ever you know what the boy fucking turtle statue and oh yes I do. I've seen it in person. I've seen it in person. It's really what. It's really funny. Oh it's so weird. I love when towns have a joke like that. Like Worcester, Mass has so much character and spunk and tradition and community and shit, it's so cool. But yeah, last time you were in Whistler. When's the last time I was in Worcester. That is a good question. Nice diners there, they got, Yeah, this's getting a fucking head. I guess at the end of that stoke. God I was. I think I was in Worcester in like twenty seventeen or eighteen. She was twenty seventeen. This is the last of my three na there's twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen. I haven't been to Worster in six years. That breaks my two thousand and six for me. I think, oh shit, it was two thousand and five. I don't know, two thousand six, I guess. Yeah. Summer of two thousand and six, we did a cross Canadian train riding trans Canadian railed right right, and I got questioned by the FBI and fucking Maine because I was with this guy used to be friends with who had some sort of flag on his name for some dumb ship. What it was for, but they were yeah, it was crazy, they got. I got interrogated by this fbig and it looked like a moose. Yeah. It was in some bump fuck town and Maine up there and what if I can't remember where fun we were there were there were four of them. It was a border crossing or they just found you guys. It was this small town and they we had backpacks and they knew they knew we were. Yeah, they knew we were. We stuck out like a sort of thought. Yeah. It was like a three hundred person town road and they were like, who are these scary hobos? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I don't even have many tattoos. Then I was yeah, that was that just the nearest cop or something to talk to you or yeah, and then if they when they typed my friend's name and some ship came up. It was some like realated to some stupid protesting been at you know, fucking I don't know what the fuck, but years before but uh and this was like post nine eleven, so that was you know, homeland security and it was me Ross, Julia and Miss Max l R I P. And uh, yeah, it was a big deal. So we ended up being like fuck this, we took it. We took we hitchhagged back down to think the Worcester, Worcester or Boston caught the caught a Q caught a train, out of c S. Sex. It was like a Q number. That's I used to number back then. We took it from from Boston to fucking Buffalo, got off in Buffalo, took a bunch of buses and walked across the Niagara. Got in no trouble. They just led us into Canada. It was cool. Hung on Toronto for a day or two. Caught a train, ended up in a capriol Ontario, Sudbury, and I figured where the fuck it was, some little trainer where there were wild blueberries in the yard. And then I learned about the Shudbury Crater, which was a meteorite crater that hit Sudbury On area, Canada, a billion and a half years ago. And his wife is so mineral. He had a lot of old rocks up there. When I was just getting into geology too, and I was like, this is fucking cool, all this stuff from space. Yeah, but like it was such an epical There wasn't much life on land back then, you know, anyway for to get fucked up, so it didn't cause a mass extinction. I don't think most of the life was in the oceans, but it must have been a big event. But it's caused all these different minerals. There's a lot of weird mining up there, you know, up there and gentle tolerant, intolerant Subbury capriol, capriole, you are, thank you. I forget the Shudburyed Crater natural so much mining up in Canada and all that fires summer, oh yeah, climbs, Yeah, there you go. I guess those forts do burn every fifty years or something like long, really long intervals. But this seemed pretty unusual. I mean, there were so many fires out there. It's not often that you get all the climate then ires are like, oh, this happens, It's fine, you know, but really you get like the sun blotted out in Chicago and New York from fucking wildfires is five hundred miles away. That's that's a new one, I think. Yeah. Yeah, conditions are changing. Yeah, but uh earth Sanga nursery was cool. Oh super cool. That was super cool. His name Matt, yeah, his dad started it, a preservationist nursery. What was the lady's name, Catherine? Fuck, I'm so bad with names. I'm trying to just pad burn a candle both ends, you know, I got these days, these names, you know. Anyway, but uh, you know you're driving home. You're just gonna go thrifting on the way the way back or what. I want to see the mountains. I'm gonna drive through West Virginia. Might see some buddies in Elkins. You know, it's the West Virginia is like the heart of old times Appalachian music in a lot of ways, which you enjoy, which I enjoy quite a bit. Yeah, and there's some some cool some cool stuff and yeah, Elkins, West Virginia and Morgantown and things like that out there, you know, as might stop and see some friends there. Cincinnati. You know, I've never been to Southeast Ohio and go through there too. Yeah, but uh yeah, just driving straight across the Appalachians through West Virginia, that's gonna be beautiful. Then you're gonna get home to Chicago and it's gonna be so chilly. Yeah, it's gonna it is. It is gonna be chilly. You're gonna be home before Halloween. What, Yeah, I'm gonna be before Halloween and go, uh and go hang out with my mom, my brother and his kids for Halloween. You know. Every you know, they got the little caddiers and they paint the whiskers and and stuff like that. It's a whole West side that's nice. A lot of trick or treaters still on the northwest side, yeah, you know, Northwest general area. Yeah yeah, but yeah yeah around there, a little a little south of there. Chicago does Halloween real nice, dude. Yeah. Oh they do. Yeah, good houses and goofy spooky stuff. You've got a lot of working class artistic types there, you know. You got there's a lot of creativity, a lot of creativity in the city, and humans are creative in general, but in the city, you've got an audience for your Halloween decorations, and you get to like share your skills. Yeah, like Off Archer some of the southwest Side, or some people who just go nuts with their front yard, you know. Yeah, he's like they've only got like a small front yard, dude, Like not that big man, but they they they fucking spruce it up with the Halloween dex you know. Yeah. Man decorators and and carpenters and stuff, all kinds of construction. People just have like their house, you know, and then they have all these skills and make these amazing displays. Yeah. I don't know, I gotta this fucking book. I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna hang out with my daughter for a few weeks and then I guess and just take off head out on the road and just try to write a bunch of shit. Get it together. It's already up there. I just gotta put it together. Yeah, man, you we're a long form. Writing is something you've kind of always done. And I bet it's percolating. I bet it's been percolating. Yeah, And I've got a bunch of ship written already, so it's starting to get chilli. Yeah, let's finish the spare. I guess we could call it quits right there, you know, you know I might, yeah, pop this one for a walk, you know, let's walk, you know, let's do it here. Let's just do it here, do you I can? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah. You want to talk about let's talk about our endorsement of outdoor urination. And there's an art to it, because you can't. We don't endorse pissing a concrete We don't endorse pissing on leaves of pliants unless there but we do and go ping in the soil as long as it's in a you know area, a relatively music or hypercipitation area where you know it's the rain is going to break up the aurea because there's nitrogen in that yar and you just like you with water, but the urea is gonna burn right. Oh God, the fucking s got me a little. Who then then I got you out here walking in the woods at dark, in the dark woods. I've done this every night. I did this last night too. Was so nice again having a trail, having the opportunity of walking without any cars around, without the risk of getting hit or killed or just the obnoxious yeah, yeah, without the fucking noise and the light hat it's a fucking annoy and the plastic signs of coming. I don't think people from other I guess they can't people from other countries can imagine just how the prave the American landscape is like. It is just a commercial car cesspool. I talk about this shit all the time. I don't want to talk about this more, but I'm just putting it out there. It's a stark contrast to the beautiful woods in which where we walk now, yeah, and we just stepped onto like a walking bridge. Yeah, you know, these fucking theer just everywhere. You know, you guys are really just you're getting away with the lot. Yeah, if you're covered in ticks too, I could see all of them on you. Not really, but generations of deer I've seen today just yeah, you know, like they're like packs of robing teams with like baseball bats and chains and stuff, except they got antlers instead of that stuff, you know, and they've lost their fear of people. Chilli. I saw Kela Karpa here. I thought it was Americana, and it turns out it's the invasive Asian one, invasive beauty berry no ship, It's like an invasive evenue. There's that invasive Lespondisa that's out here. It's like an invasive version of all these native plants. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's just because you know, there was I wonder about that. By geographically, how you got you know, they they must not have split too far back in terms of millions of years in the lineage. I think there's a you know, these disjunctions between Asia and the East Coast and North America typical you know, the ASA gray thing. It was a botanist who pointed that out These you know closely related species that occurred both in Asia and and uh the eastern United States. It probably got there going you know, high latitude, the high latitude wereroute probably Oh no ship, Oh yeah. I flew over Greenland once. Man, it was wild, just white. It was just white. Jesus fucking Chris. Look at that thing. There's a tank. Yeah, very massive, big deer with the white ass. Flew over Greenland and it was Greenland to Frankfurt, then the South. We went to South Africa. They're coming back. It was holy shit, man, Just flying over green was cool. It was just like these just all white with these like black mountains poking up. Wow. It was so cool to be able to see. And then I imagine five million years ago into like the Miacene or something. It must have been a lot warmer. There were probably forest down there. You know, it's chili. Listen to the russell of the listen to the rustle of the leaves, so nice. And the moon is high and bright. You see where this stairs. They got this fucking golf course down here with this fence that looks like it should be run an airport, like it's a really like a medium security prison. Yeah. And some kids pulled it up on the on the bottoms, probably so they could go funk around the golf course, take a ship in the ninth hole or something, you know, do some mild vandalism like kids do. Vandalism is important when you're a team. You know, there really is. You just got to pick your targets wisely, all, you know. True, Yeah, don't don't, don't hurt no grannies. No, but go go fuck up a golf course, shoot in the ninth hole or something. Don't look at that beautiful moon it's place. It is fucking brist This vet cooat doesn't do ship man. This is not a warm coat, that captain coat they bought me for the yeah, for the bit. That thing's warm as hell. I'll tell you what, Joe, you put that old Guidos sweater on underneath that that would go. Yeah, then I'm gonna fall into this part and I'm gonna blame you. I just keep giving you these very pointed gifts, like a big pair of like thick uh thrist store. You find that in here? I got that here. Yeah. Yeah, I've been doing a little you know, cope thrifting, you know, like a thrift wizard. Yeah, I've been got to find a coping mechanism. I'm running out now, you know. Yeah, I mean living in the pells. Yeah, man, it's wild. It's wild. But they had an amazing thrift store here. It's it's a unique and of value village right next to each other, in the same in the same place. K no U n I q u E unique. Oh not like unique the Chicago chain of thrift store no same one. Yeah, it's a national brand now where it has spelled it unique with you and e K no ship really yeah, they used to. There was one on the south side. Is this a Mandela effect right now? What's that where you remember it spelled that way? And other people do, but allegedly it never was. I don't know, man, I could be spooky. There's some spooky you know. Think about Crane was about to come, you know, rolling down his bike path over this little bridge. I'm gonna throw this bottle on the golf course. Good job. Yeah, there you go. Well we're not anti litering completely. Just depends again, it just just depends, you know, it just depends. Why he's it just seems really mad, you know, talk Why don't you why don't you just do a little bit of I don't want to do no, no, no, I'll do it. L it's you know, I got a lot of ship going on. You don't want to do too, you don't want to do anything. Yeah, my daughter being sick and yeah, no, I'm yeah. You don't want to get over focused. No, I gotta yeah, I gotta take it easy. I'll do that. It's a special time, you know, when I'm stretching, when I'm doing my yoga or something, when you the limber staying limber. Oh cool and Judo cool. They were super cool. A pleasure meeting them, brilliant scientists, neuroscientists, charming folks. By yeah, I moved here. Tons of perspective, just that, I mean having the perspective of two vastly different places, you know, like a huge I love that. I think fucking travel and just a wealth of experience is a pool of different experiences in life is so important for people. And a scientific framework too. Oh yeah, who was I talking to? Who is telling them? Telling me about their kid was going to go to school? And oh, a friend of mine was telling me about that, and I was like, no, don't he's like my kid's gonna My kid's mom is trying to get him to go to college of high school, don't fucking do that? Tell him to take like a year or two off. You don't know what the fuck you want to do when you get out of high school. You just want to get a taste of the world, Like you have no idea who you are. You don't haveing fucking identity yet, you know, yeah, I'm gonna go study this, and then that's when you go get socialized with the with the rest of the young adults of that means, right, yeah, and people think like their identities the fucking music they listen to or the stupid shit they wear or whatever it's not right then stuff they read. Yeah, your identity is who you would be if you woke up one day and and like no one else was around you gut stranding on a desert island, Like what would you choose to do with your time if you had you know, totally fictional reality, But if you had like the you know, access to the resources, like whether it was music or art or books or whatever culture like that Twilight Zone episode. Yeah, but but work, then you don't smash your glasses. You get you go down the book room, you come out, or the bank, well, you come out, Nuclear Wars. Everyone's gone, but the library is still there, you know, Right, So you're posing this question as like all of culture is still there, but you're not influencing. You're not or you're not influenced by people watching you. You know, you're not influence. You're not going to this this this idea that we have to pose for people via social media by putting shit in our bio or pretending to be someone else or taking selfies or whatever like that. Who that's not who you are. Who you are is you know, what you do independent of conformity and needing validation or any of that. Like what would you know? What? I mean that kind of stuff, like what would what art would you make? What things would you read? What interests you? What do you go to bed and nights thinking about? It's a good question to ask yourself, what do you actually think? That is ident right? That's identity not the music you listen to. I mean maybe a little bit, I guess, But that shit changes over time too, you know. It's what drives you. The way the eyes through which you see the world are unique. They're yours, you know. Yeah, it's the question is what do I think? Not who do I think I am? Or who do I want people to think? Exactly exactly? Is this the Is that the golf course? Do you think? Isn't this the golf course? You're on the other side? No, with this ridiculously this fence that comes like six feet out over Yeah, there it is a I see it. I'm trying to launch this. See this bottle at the ah Oh yeah, I think I got it. For I think I got it. I can see turf over there in the moonlight. But there's fucking poison ivy everywhere. Oh yeah, you see some golfer driving around? See some who is drinking non alcoholic? Who's gonna say it's hilarious that it's like a vandalism, but it's like a non alcoholic beer. You know, we're still keeping a true in our old age, but something's changed somethings. Don't middle aged? Please please please, I feel old. Maybe when you're done that sweater, you'll feel really old. What did you say, I need old man complaining about his lottery numbers? Nebrascal glasses? Yeah, like giant you know, giant sick plastic aviators aviator glasses, and it's like a flat cap, you know, and just like complanning of your lottery numbers and how the coffee is cold. You got it? Yeah, I think these mics kind of suck. Well it's fine. Oh look I could have gotten it through here too. There you go, looks nicely. I still got one. You got one? You want to try and launch it? Yeah? There you go. Oh that's that's good. That was good. They got in there. Yeah, you got it in there that landed on the green ah anyway, no, yeah, mm yeah, wow, wow, y fucking so right about the yikes thing? Yea, I know exactly who says? I know, we're not the same god. What about that episcopalian uh priest? He was cool. Yeah, the church that they're doing. We're gonna go see him tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, I hope it's dense. I hope they packed it dnce in diverse with a bunch of different species. It's kind of the cool thing since just all it was all deciduous woodland here. The only clearings were those made by Native Americans. I guess that's like, that's what you know. It's not actually trying to go back to what it was, you know, seven hundred years ago. It's and because what it was seven hundred years ago is not the same as it was ten thousand years ago. And it was fucking tundra, you know, place to scene, et cetera. I was just trying to create, pollinate or habitat an interesting ship, all these cool cynthio trikam sympio trik cordifolium. That was a fucking awesome one we got from birth Sanga earth singa nursery. We're seeing that little box turtle. You've missed you see that? Oh yeah, did you see him? I said this a little box. I couldn't find him. Go he was eating. Oh I walked a long way. I didn't see him. He was probably there. I just didn't see him. And then I was walking back and I saw him and he was munching on a little square derma like a little cuffs. Magical as fuck. Oh yeah, he was a cute little bastard. But uh, yeah, I don't know what's all he got. Oh yeah, we got those other plants for the church from Sam Drogi's b research. Yeah that was super cool. Yeah, that was fucking nice man. He gave us a ton of ship, tons of latest. Sam's another wizard. I felt that was some fucking ron ship. You didn't see his house, man, Holy shit, his house was incredible. He's got he's got this rocket stove he made. He built this fucking house. It's like, oh, it's a Dobey like clay Yeah. Yeah man. And it was just like you have to walk through this tunnel of Helianthus tuberosis and sylpium portfoliot him to get to his house, and it's just He's like, it's just cool. It's got a cool vibe. And it's got these mud walls, not mud, they're like you know, adobe wall, so yeah, like like rounded, like the like the fucking house and Luke Skywalker's grand at an uncle's house. Yeah, Uncle Luke's house on dead right. It's got a vibe to it. Yeah. It was one of those houses you go through You're like, man, I wish I could do this. Yeah yeah, no I could, but I just I also couldn't. I'm also kind of like a d all over the place. Got too much shit on my plate. But uh yeah, what a cool guy. Yeah he was. He was a great vibe. But we got tons of baptisia from him. I love that he had that abandoned carnivorous plant bog and a bathtub, meaning that like all these like curR nervous plant people would just give him stuff, right, and they had a bog and an old steel bathtub. Yeah, that guy was. That guy was. But we gave us a ship ton of plants, and so I hope they're still that. We haven't seen him in a week. Hopefully they're. The plants are also doing. Yeah, I bet they're gonna get watered. It's it's like cool and moistier, So I bet I don't think they dry it out or diet. Everybody's going dormant for the season right now anyway, so maybe they just went dormant a little quicker. You're just planting roots. But still it'll be cool. It'll be really cool to see, you know, you get people to send us pictures of this stuff. When they gotta give a Rul's number, Oh yeah, grab it. Yeah, it'd be cool to go chill with them again. But it's been nice. It was an odd location in Maryland to pick the DC area, but it was also I don't know, I'm glad. I'm gonna feel like it especially they need to kill your lawn. Shit to happen here more more still than and it's popping off because all this Chesapeake Bay conservation, right, and they realize run off too. Yeah, there's all this, there's all this like government programs to prevent runoff now because of Chesapeake Bay. It's how fucked it is. People don't realize, I mean, fifty fifty inches of rainy year here, but you still get, you know, a ship ton. There's still a problem with the lawn. It's not like you know, out in the out West, it's like you're wasting water to have a stupid fucking lawn right here where you've got more than enough water and it can still grow, it's still it's still detrimental and ecologically, you know, negative because those roots don't go deep and it's just like a parting line. There's you know it just there's there's slopes, there's creeks everywhere, totalating hills, and the water hits it and then just runs off. It's packed clay putneath there. Those roots of the shitty turf grass don't go more than an inch or too deep, as we've seen, and ripping so many of them up and now water hits the you know, goes percolates through the roots, that hits the clay pan and then just runs off. And then it runs off with all the nasty shit they're putting on the grass to keep it alive. Yeah, not to mention like a bunch of garbage and microplastics. Right, God, they've really fucked the landscape into a coma here. I mean they're all over the US, I guess, but I mean all over the world where people tend to go. Depending Jesus Christ, that fucking set books by another goddamn deer. This is kind of like the deer hangout right here. We're back on a board walk. There's probably so many ticks man, Oh my god, billion, Yeah, billions of ticks in that undergrowth needs a burn. Dorman seasons burn and then uh Brett's Brett's yard was it was cool too. What was I gonna say, forget what it was gonna talk about there but getting plants the good Father. But that guy Brett's yard. Oh yeah, like you just bought this house. He had all this ship that that snow is here. That's another horticultural atrocity that you see plant that here it's a non native azalea, which is again weird. You have a native one, that's amazing. And then there was the Japanese barbary planted there and just all this, you know, taggy horticultural ship. What I liked about his lawn though, was that it looked like ship Like there was spots and you could tell this dude did not give a fuck about his lawn. It made me happy to see was destroyed. Patchy looked terrible. Then you look two houses down at the neighbors and it's just glowing. It's glowing green like that. You know that ship is poison has been putting some of his neighbors been putting some nasty stuff. Right that green color comes to the cost, a drastic environmental cost, and then it runs off, runs down slope right into the creek. All the fungicides and all the different herbicide and passes side whatever they put on there, all this shiit amendments, all this nitrogen fertilizer, and Ship told me they watching the little like YouTube VIDs, I've done, kill you a lawn. They start getting ads for like long Care Maiden. They're like lawns. There's been a creakle in the algorithm, the advertising. We've been stealing your data, not really understanding with your interests are. Maybe it's the the throws of Big Lawn trying to get people real back end. They don't kill it to this person's interested in turf grab Maybe there's maybe there's some hope for them yet. Maybe we can Oh, this is nice, see that looking at that lights out, walking in the dark with nothing but moonlight. It's so nice, the crinkle of the leaves, the autumnal vibes. Yeah, what in the ichabod crane? Shit is gonna happen out here? Any spooky October woods? Did we? Did? We see some spooky stuff a week we all go oh. When we were walking out of the woods. The beat walking out of the beach woods with those mushrooms where the sun's going down, it was a much more treacherous trail than this too, was like muddy and slick, and that elevation and stuff and the sun's going down were separated in the woods. And then all of a sudden, this like church bell organ music starts playing. And that's when I said, what in the Ichabad crane is going goofy? Stuff's going on. You ordered some spooky stuff. I feel like this is Midlowian cemetery or something Bachelor's growl, you know, and there's some stuff going on. You know, we're gonna see the lady in white back here sitting on a stump. You a bunch of a bunch of teams and cloaks trying to sacrifice a can or something. You know. You know, so that's something I bought to resell while I've been out here. Actually is this amazing eighties heavy trench coat with a hood on it. It is the most goths ship. Oh man, you can sell that. Oh yeah, It's like a velvet hood and like a heavy wolf in Chicago going strong. Do you see him? You see him doing They're just you know, you just see them. You see him in situ in everyday life. They're just doing going. You're getting their oil changed and like waiting for the bus and wear a bunch of like jewelry and ship and leather black leather boots, you know, just like uh, you know, like a casual goth, you know, like wear an eyeliner kind of thing. You know, guy wearing an eyeliner. Maybe he's got a little dyet hair. You know, right, maybe he's got some kind of band T shirt. You know, oh yeah, okay, at least going to his jab right for you know, you'll see a business casual goth, you know, all black, you know this casual. Yeah, they got like a little hearring and you know something like they ever see like a festive guy. They don't really get you ever see like a happy like they're like Joe really smiling, clicking, you know when they're dancing. When they go out dancing. I don't know where the gods dance. Take me to where the gods dance. They're like industrial warehouse clubs, you know, next to cold storage place, you know, open late on the weekends. I wish that was still a thing. It's not really. I don't think I under you know, I probably just don't know. There's probably underground dance parties. The wharehouse got the industrial clubs, you know, going on. We don't know. We're going to pick up the n A beers that we left here and then we'll see you later. But you know, thanks for listening there, guy. You know, yeah, we really you know, it's nothing against you. We just thought we would bring it up. You know, we were on a subject that it was just a lot of the stuff you were doing that we had a problem. Yeah, it's not you. It's just everything you were doing, the choices you're making. We're just there were just a little goofy. It's just not you, right, it's not And you know, with all due respect, with all due respect, all due respect, this is a multi faceted issue. There's a lot of different stuff going on, you know, coming from different angles. Fact, there's elements consideration, elements beyond our control, like you know, new stuff that's come to light, and we're just trying to really compile it all and figure it out. You don't really uh, dissect it and digest it and take it apart, you know, put it on the table, just break it down to its basic principles and then really just get down the brass tacks about what it specifically is and then how also how it functions right, right, and then we're just trying to explain it to you so that you understand and then yeah, that you get how we're thinking. And you know, I'm glad, so glad you joined us on this walking there's so much the guy, Well, that's how we got for you too,
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