The Most Gruesome Deaths in Treehouse Of Horror (with The Simpsons Index)

Hello everybody. Dando here for the latest episode of four Finger Discount Extra here
on the four Finger Discount Network. Today, we're going to be discussing the
most gruesome deaths of Trios of Horror and I was lucky to be joined by
my co host from Gooday Ew the Wrestling Podcast here on the four Finger Discount
Network, mister Elliott J O'Neil from the Simpsons Index Podcast. Yes, he
has a Simpsons podcast of his own, so make sure you check that out.
You can find a link for it in the description of this pod.
But yes, like I said, we're going to be covering the most gruesome
deaths of Treehouse of Horror. I'm a big fan of Halloween. You know,
going up in Australia, Halloween wasn't a thing and look at all you
know, we'd get the specials on TV, the Halloween specials, not just
for the Simpsons before anything really, but you know it, it was never
a thing. We never went trickle treating or anything like that. And I
found about ten years ago Australia sort of break a bit more. They sort
of went, no, what it's a bit of fun. Now, kids
go around, get some candy lollies, as we call them here in Australia,
and you know, just just go dross up in costumes and why not,
It's just it's just fun. And then COVID happened, and I feel
like Halloween never really recovered in Australia. It's been what two years now since
COVID's kind of been finished, and it's getting back to where it kind of
was pre COVID, but not quite. But last year we had a few
kids trick or treating around the neighborhood. I'm excited for the trick or treating
in a couple of weeks time. It's the seventeenth today, so we're gonna
be trick or treading in about two weeks time as of this recording. My
son Ali, he cannot wait. He is now five. He went last
year and unfortunately we went out a little bit too late last year. I
thought it was like fine, you know, about five o'clock, but apparently
the kids knock off school and go trick or treating and all the lollies were
already gone. So we'll make sure we get out nice and early for trick
or treating this year. But my daughter Holly, she cannot wait. This
is her first ever Halloween trick or treating to both their costumes picked out.
Actually, Holly is turning three in four days. Times a happy birthday to
my daughter Holly, she's turning three. Like I said, I've got my
costume dad as well. I'm going as Dr Alan Grant from Dressy Park.
Basically what I've done has got the costume, but I've gone one step further.
I've just got the costume. I went and purchased from Target. There's
like this animatronic baby t Rex that you put on like a glove essentially,
and they can control the eyes and mouth of raw and all that kind of
stuff. So I'm expecting a lot of kids to want to get a photo
with this baby t Rex with Rexy and Doctor Alan Grant as we do some
trick or treating. But yeah, enough about that, Enough about my personal
Halloween shenanigans. We're here today to talk about the most gruesome deaths of trios
of horror, And what I found was there wasn't all that many in the
earlier seasons. For some reason in my mind, they were gory in the
early days, but there weren't so much though they were spooky, but there
weren't gory. The more gory ones came towards the later seasons. But you
know, we cover everything, not just ones that happen in the actual segments,
the ones that happening the little bits in between and things like that as
well. So I hope you guys enjoy that. As I said, though
the Simpsons Index, make sure you check that podcast that it is sensational.
It is co hosted by elliot j O'Neil, who you're about to hear in
just a few moments, and as you'll be well aware, he is a
Simpsons super fan like you and I so thank you again for checking out four
fiscan Extra and I hope you enjoy my chat with the legendary Ali Jay O'Neil
from The Simpsons Index discussing the most gruesome depths of Trios of Horror. Yeah,
there's something about the trios of horror episodes. It's just they're just so
fun, aren't they. You know, you just say what you will about
the modern day Simpsons. You still get excited for the Halloween ones because you
know they're gonna be I don't know, maybe it's my love for gore and
horror that just sort of attracts me to it. But you know, they're
always gonna deliver in something. It might not be the best ones, but
they're always gonna deliver in some way. With the Halloween episodes, Yeah,
like from a very early age, I loved these episodes just being able to
explore these exact characters but in a very very different way, and you know,
in a much more cartoony way, surprisingly enough for a cartoon. But
yeah, this is where we get to to play with the Simpsons a bit
like they were our action figures and then at some points drop their heads off
and it's very blood everywhere. I can just imagine back in like, you
know, the early NINETI when the show first started, they would have loved
to have gotten to these ones because they can just sort of break cannon.
Because they're all nerds and all horror nerds and sci fi nerds. Have been
able to sort of combine their show, The Simpsons, with their love of
sci fi and horror and all these other aspects would have just been so incredible
for them. I feel like the transpire would have been when they sort of,
like everyone sort of would have wanted to just make sure that they had
at their finger in that pie for that episode. Oh absolutely, and just
the excuse not to have to be so strict into Simpson's cannon, like I
mean, well, you know, if US fans will complain about the whibly
wobbly, timey wimy nature of The Simpsons, especially at the moment, and
you know, what is continuity, But it's it's nice not to even think
of those discussions when talking about Treehouse of Horror. It's just from its outset,
it's this isn't the Simpsons. This is the at the Simpsons Treehouse of
Horror. It's the same characters, but we're doing something very different this week.
Don't worry, we'll be a normal show next week. But yeah,
just sit back and have fun. And they so often are They're so often
the better episodes of the more recent seasons as well. It's funny whenever I
talk to Matt Salmon, he hates the way continuity. He's just he just,
oh, I know I've seen his Twitter rounds. Okay, really yeah,
We're just chatting that time in his mumble a couple of weeks ago,
and he's just like, I know why people are so such stickless of continuity.
By season thirty five. You know, it's just like just just enjoy
the show, just take it episode by episode, like I agree to you
an extent now. And I feel like the way the guy and I've been
reviewing the episodes and up to season eighteen, you've just got to go.
Does did this thirty minutes or twenty minutes entertain me? You know? I
feel like continuity kind of died. I want to say maybe season ten to
twelve ish is that when you feel like the proper cotton principle on the porpho,
it's sort of like the final nails, don't you reckon for continuity?
Not that the show was ruined, but like when you want to include continuity,
that sort of fucked things up a bit, didn't it. Yeah?
Actually, I think you've had him on the show before, right, the
real Gyms. Yeah, he did a pretty good video recently about the Simpsons
continuity and actually made the argument that they'd sort of been breaking the continuity fairly
early on as well, and it's always been you know, this is,
let's say a town that's just sort of stuck in a time loop where they
all stay the same, but the world around them ages. And yeah,
he made a very reasonable argument that they've been doing this since the start,
So, like, I think it was a little bit easy, easier to
get behind in the early days because it was like, oh yeah, margin
Homer were in high school in the seventies and then they had the kids in
the eighties, and then that made sense. But yeah, once it got
to season ten and twelve, they couldn't tell those stories anymore. And you
know against the points where yeah, of course, like that nineties show where
people think it's a bit more egregious than others. But yeah, that's one
of Matt Salmon's face favorites. This is such a bad episode anyway, is
it really? I can remember watching it when it first and being like somewhat
confused. But anyway, that's a story for another episode for it. We're
here today though, because you know, here at four Fingers getting extra,
we like to just pick a theme or a topic and just Simpson's banter.
So today you and I we thought what Halloween think we doing. We went
with glorious or most gruesome deaths of Trios of Horror, because there are some
seriously, seriously gruesome deaths. And I went through and watched skim through all
the Triosta Horrors in preparation for this one, and I found some in later
years that I hadn't actually seen before, and it made me go, Holy
Molly. I always hear about this one where Homer eats himself, right,
yeah, And I may have seen it when it first came out. I
don't think I would have. I would have remembered this. But man,
you've said to me that you want to include this in one of your ones
you want to talk about. So let's just kick off with Homer eating himself.
What Triosa Horror was that one from? Again? So? Yeah,
that was from season twenty nine's Treehouse of Horror to twenty eight. Fuck.
That's the annoying thing when talking about Treehouse of Horrors that you always have minus
one from the seasons. But anyway, I'll get that little bitching rant out
of the way. Yeah. So the segment's called Homer. It's the last
segment in that Treehouse of Horror twenty eight and it is the first Treehouse of
Horror anything that has come with Simpson's family member stepping out in front of the
red curtain for a warning and it's just pretty much it's Lisa and she just
warns the viewers, and it's it's almost pretty dry in that way. And
she was right to do so, because this segment is fucked up, like
you say, first time or first time in a long time, first time
in a long time. Sorry, Yeah, okay, cool, Yeah,
to make Sean like I'm sure remembers March the time, right, yeah,
yeah, for the first like four or five Treehouse of Horrors or something.
Yeah, and I feel like this episode, this segment really needed it because
it wasn't necessarily like gory, but it was just oh, it was just
on a new level of just grossness. Yeah. Absolutely, Like I've often
thought about, you know, because Halloween is a pretty big deal where I
live, and I sort of fantasized about like setting up a projector and just
playing Treehouse of Horrors, you know, for the few hours while kids are
doing their trick or treating. But like, I ultimately decided against it because
yeah, even like the earlier Treehouse of Horrors, even though they were death
Light, they would sometimes have some gory and gruesome moments and yeah, we'll
get into them today, but yeah, especially this one. If it like,
if it came up, I'd be like hitting the skip button immediately,
because yeah, this this one gets beyond the point of fun for me,
and just it's so bleak. It's so sad at the end of year,
feeling so empty. Like Homer, he's just gone the family don't have a
father anymore, and she doesn't have a husband anymore. He couldn't resist the
fact that he wanted to taste himself. And now he's gonna be a seasoning.
And I was like, this isn't fun at all. No, no,
and a seasoning developed by a very canceled chef Mario Batali as well.
So all kinds of bleak in this segment. But yeah. It starts out
the family are on a vacation or something, and Homer's left to fend for
himself and he gets frozen hot dogs out the very famous Simpsons frozen hot dogs,
and in the process of making them, cuts off his own finger,
puts it on the grill and then just almost immediately is turned into a cannibal
self cannibal and he just eats his body pats throughout the entire episode. Yeah,
and when he was like grating himself, I was just, oh,
maybe my skin for all man. I was like, oh, this is
this is so weird. It was just a weird one for me. Yeah,
well, I mean talking about most gruesome, this is probably the most
prolonged death out of any Treehouse of Horror, because yeah, this Homer whittling
himself away to eat himself, like, it takes up pretty much the whole
segment. And yeah, he does die at the end, like what remains
of him Murrio Batali turns him into it. Yeah, like you said,
a seasoning, but yeah, throughout that we just get that horrible montage.
Yeah, of like the grading himself and then like him putting a corkscrew into
his ear and pulling out some brain and yeah, using a tea one of
his tooth to top a muffin, Like, come on, Homer. I
do like the visual where he was they arrive home and he's trying to walk
with like one lenk. It had its funny moments, but yeah, that
the bleakness just overrode any any sort of positivity in this segment. It was
just a strange and to end it on it as well, so like they
left you with this one, like you you ended this chreess of horror feeling
like shit, I don't know, weird, No, I it really Yeah,
lacked in jokes, lacked him funny, and was really going for that
shock value, which yeah, isn't exactly what makes up my sort of favorite
treehouse of horror segments. But you know, if we're talking the criteria of
today, what is like the most gruesome moments, there is actually a lot
that you can pick from the newer seasons, they do tend to go for
a lot more gore than certainly they did in the older days. But yeah,
this one is so effective in that way they really did. I feel
like, you know, you watched the first ten seasons or so, there
wasn't that much gore really in the first ten seasons. It was more sort
of just like horror theme as opposed to actual gore, where I feel like,
maybe more towards the later seasons and these kind of seasons, they rely
heavily more on the gore than the actual storytelling. Yeah. Absolutely, Like
one are the ones that didn't make my list because it's I think it's called
Oh the Places You'll Doe. It's like a weird parody of The Cat and
the Hat where Homer's the cat and he's just going on a murder spree.
I didn't include it because like no one death stands out because the whole segment
is just these loose rhyming couplets while Homer is just going on a murder spree,
and it's just it's actually quite boring in its gore. Like it was
more of an animation showcase, wasn't it. Yeah, yeah, that's one
of the other things. You know, say what you want about the New
Era. Most of the episodes look fantastic, and this was one of them
where yeah, they obviously put in so much work to get in that doctor
says style that, yeah, they neglected to make an effective episode in amongst
that all. But yeah, like there are like a lot of examples of
this sort of thing where yeah, they just go for more of the gore
or sometimes like more just a movie parody or something, and yeah, it
doesn't doesn't quite be as effective as Treehouse of Bold. And that's why in
the early ones, when you got for example, when really got the axe
in the back, it stood out. It was like, well shit,
you know, because you didn't see all that much. But I've told this
story a million times of course, but just in case anyone hasn't heard it,
the Trance of horr episode is actually the reason I wasn't allowed to watch
The Simpsons till I was like seven. Oh that's right. I would have
told you, right, Remember how I groped the knife out of the hitching
drawer? Yeah, so bad dream house, thank you very much. So
it's it makes sense now that I'm a dad. Like before I became a
father, would have gone, ah, what's the point warning? You know,
fuck it? The kids shouldn't be watching it anyway. But now I'm
just like, just it's so easy to come across the Simpsons, you know,
not so much now I feel I feel like, now with the Simpsons,
you have to find the Simpsons because we don't have it on free to
air TV in Australia. I'm not sure what it's like around the world,
but if you want to watch the Simpsons now in Australia, it's Disney Plus
or Bust right, oh, because I don't have free to wear TV get
hooked up at my home at all. But I thought they were on like
Channel seven now, which is weird. Really Yeah, okay, yeah,
that's that's that's it. I'd rather forget about that. It's too dirty for
me. We grew up on Channel ten. I understand why they warn kids
for this segment, because you just don't want kids chopping their thumbs off and
putting on the barbecue do Yeah, no, no, it's some Yeah,
it's like we'll get into it with the list, but yeah, there are
some like moments that went for it, and like especially moments where like,
yeah, you talk to people about it, it's like, yeah, that
fucked me up as a kid, Like that was worse than watching the actual
like horror movie that they're referencing in times. Yeah, yeah, it's fine.
And a lot of the things too with the Simpsons when they take off
horror movies is that many of the kids were introduced to horror franchises through the
Simpsons. I didn't know what For example, this isn't a franchise, but
I didn't know what The Shining was. When I was a kid. I
was like, oh, it's a movie, it's not just a shitting Yeah.
I still haven't seen it, Oh my god, Like really, yeah,
okay, I've seen most of it. I remember I fell asleep twice.
I've tried asleep. Real effective horror movie then, very very effective.
I want to talk about one that was I think one of the more brutal
ones of the Golden era. Maybe isn't nice gruesome? I'm not so sure,
but it's the Fox censor at the beginning. I want to say Trios
of Horror eight, I believe, or seven that it keeps getting stabbed in
the back. Yeah, and the rating for the episode keeps going up and
up. Yeah. I remember, because that wasn't long after the I was
aloud to watch the Simpsons again. I remember it coming on and Mum beans
still a bit sort of like what do you sure about these Simpsons? And
then and then that came on. I was like, of all the episodes,
better than to put on Well, I was trying to think about this
because you know, with Simpsons in syndication we ad at five nights a week,
six sometimes with new episodes or whatever six o'clock Channel ten, and everyone
knows the routine. Were Treehouse of Horrors just in the loop, because I
have a weird memory of some episodes being like held back and then they do
like Simpsons Late Night or something to air them, like the Homer Weed episode
margin Homer Fornicating Outdoors episodes. I'm trying to remember if like Treehouse of Horrors
were just exempt from the syndication thing. I think that's some of them were.
I feel like they would have been, because I can't recall seeing them
all that often and just syndication. But you'd get like, yeah, around
Halloween time, you cheers of Horror at marathon nights where contended like seven thirty
to nine thirty or something, or maybe eight o'clock till ten o'clock. It
was always that little bit like you're right, yeah, but the all new
ones were always at seven thirty. But I think I put this on because
we've got Foxtowler Rember at the same time. So Fox tub didn't care.
They gave no shits. They just put whatever episode on at any time.
Yeah, true, And yeah I remember this one coming on and Mum just
being like, you can watch it, but I told you I don't like
these Simpsons, and Mum just had a knack for watching the ones that would
make a a cautious parent not want their child to watch the show exactly.
And yeah, if it's not him getting constantly stabbed in the back, he
did make a joke we could do without the crack pipe, you know,
yes, but but yeah, that was a more confronting one for me.
When I was a kid, I was like, Wow, they're not holding
back, he's just getting stabbed. Yeah. Yeah, and that was from
Treehouse of Horror eight from season nine. Yep, So still still golden ear
in my eyes for me? When when does your golden ear end? Well?
On the Simpsons Index, When we averaged out our scores, we do
see a bit of a drop from season eight to season nine in our like
average rankings, But to me, I don't know, season nine just still
feels classic eerror And as part of our mission statement in the show, we
still considered nine the classic era. But like, I still feel like seasons
nine to thirteen conveniently line up into the tweens era for me, and like
they have like a particular flavor that four or five season run there where Yeah,
it's still good, obviously not at the quality of the previous years,
but like, yeah, it's it's a bit more out there and stuff.
I don't I don't think we're quite in you know, the teens slump that
a lot of people, that turned a lot of people off. But yeah,
like seasons nine to thirteen, I feel like there's still some pretty solid
stuff that still lost a few people. But I think it's because they were
going a bit more bizarre and a bit more experimental and stuff. Yeah,
yeah, I'm the same. For me, my golden era sort of doesn't
end at twelve, but for me twelve, I want to say between like
four or twelve anything. Yeah, but if you got back into the show
around Sea nine, yeah, this would still be like, well, really
the first the first episode I was allowed to watch that was a new one
new episode was Treut of Horror six. Yeah. Right, So was that
the Homer three D? One? That was Homer three D? Yeah,
it was so excited. I was like, oh, new Simpson. It
was like the Simpsons in three D. And here's me thinking, like get
my little blue and red glasses on and think it's gonna be the whole episode
of three D. Yeah, it wasn't that kind of three D. But
that was that was three D the nineties kids, red and white cellophane.
Yeah, that's right. Uh No, this was Simpsons stepping into a whole
new era, not a gruesome death. So it doesn't make any of our
list, unfortunately. All I do remember being scared at that death. I
was home. It like came apart at the scenes and like as he was
being ripped through time and space, like, oh, what's gonna happen to
him? Like, but it's it's a non continuity episode. He'll be fine.
But I always loved the ending for that one though. In the real
world it just felt so special. It was so cool, you know,
none that felt the special effects that would have been like ninety five, I
reckon six. That's it was so well done for its time in my opinion.
No, it's still very impressive and like I think I used that footage
for a long time at Sydney's Imax Theater as part of like a animation showcase
sort of thing. Yeah cool, yeah, alrighty well, yeah, that's
one of my gruesome ones. What's another gruesome one from you? I had
another gruesome one actually, yeah, from around that time, the ending of
I think it was Treehouse of Horror five. Yeah, yeah, because it's
my favorite one, so way most people's favorite one, right, Yeah,
it's just it's so solid, it's what it's time and punishment, it's Nightmare
Cafeteria and ah am I not thinking of the shitt oh that shitting. Yeah,
just talked about that one before. So yeah, when Bart wakes up
from the Nightmare Cafeteria and then it was all just a dream. Honey,
don't worry. There's nothing that can hurt you except that skin that turns sorry,
except that fog that turns everyone's skin inside out. I like, I've
got a huge tolerance for gross stuff, but oh man, I still find
this bit hard to watch where everyone's skin turns inside out. It's like blood
splattering every Well, yeah, it was gross. I'm just thinking about it
now. It might not be a death per se. I guess Santa's little
helper does drag Bart away at the end of it, but it's still he's
definitely dead. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it's still just the uh
the horror as like the Simpsons are like clearly feeling all the pain in the
world as this is happening. Like the animators like really must have a lot
of fun with these episodes as well, just being able to like contort and
just disturbing images of the Simpsons. Yeah, as their skid is literally turning
inside out, that must also be a fun process. Ah what does this
look like? You know? You also notice a lot more in the recent
ones too, is when it comes to the animation, a lot of them
are sort of like themed ones aren't there because I'm the last one. We
had the take on what was the death Note? Oh yeah, yeah,
the anime? Yeah yeah, like that, And there was another one that
was like Parasite? Was it Parasite? The one before that there was like
recently, there's been a lot of like Treus of Horrors where the animation style
is so different from the normal, And we had the toy story based one
that's more like CGI. So the animes are really sort of they're treating these
ones like their babies to showcase what they can actually achieve. Yeah, And
I guess back then when they didn't have the resources that they do now,
you know, like, yeah, you mentioned the toy story one, a
fully CGI segment. You know, we are definitely thirty years removed from ooh
we got Homer in three D and we got but a little bit in three
D And yeah, I don't I guess it was just a bit more special
back then, knowing that, like these moments are so limited and so far
and few, and you know, when they were doing movie parodies, they
really had to make some creative decisions with how they were going to ate that
style because they couldn't do things like I know this isn't an actually at AOL,
but it's just easier to do it this way. Yeah, pop on
the death note filter on everything you know and you know, but we're talking
back in the days of pencil paper drawing and like animation, models weren't as
copy and paste as they are now. So yeah, the other shows would
have been willing to let them copy their style because now it's just like,
oh, the Simpsons want to take us off, go for it. But
yeah, absolutely, maybe in the early nineties, like, nah, you're
kind of a competition. I don't think we want you still in a style.
Yeah, exactly. Actually, just bringing on that as well. I
always remember the Nightmare on ever Green Terror segment, like the start of that
being really affecting to me, just like how watercolor and the backgrounds and stuff
were, and how it just looked different, like they did a fantastic for
me. I still think the best Trets of Horror is Treats of Horror five,
like for the reasons you said before, but my favorite will always be
Trants of Horror six abecause have got in the styles you ever been the first
new episode that I ever got to see since the infamation Mum, Simpsons band.
But also I just think it's a great combination of just like like monster
movie, gore and sci fi and I just I just loved that one.
I love every segment in TREESA Horrs six because you got attack of the fifty
foot I saw was night Man, Never Green Terrorists and Homer three D.
Yeah, so I remember us comparing less was something from Nightmare and ever Green
Terrorists one of yours, I believe. Yeah, really getting burned to death,
that's right, Yeah, yeah, which is like both gruesome and funny
at the same time because it's really, you know, we always really sort
of like the punching bag, but burning to death just seems like the most
horrific way to go in my opinion. I just imagine, just yeah,
I accidentally touched the frying payment on cooking a sturf fry and I'm adding commission
for like three weeks. Imagine being burnt to death. I kin'd of.
I just don't want to even imagine it. So just the idea of being
burnt to death is just horrific. And yeah, that's why it's made my
list of like gruesome deaths, because it's got to be up there right.
Yeah, well, especially like watching the Simpsons and how they do their flavor
on doing a horror segment, and this one in particular, like you said,
it's still like funny. It's it must be such a tricky thing to
balance, Yeah, doing something that's meant to be horror and affecting and gory
and all that, and then still managed to weave in jokes in amongst it
all, and then just having nobody give a fuck when Willy burst into the
room bursting slaves, will you please, mister van Houghton has the floor And
yeah, where we get the infamous to spaghetti Dinner's line, but we also
get that do not touch Willy, we get smart. Whether we get so
many I can't segment not into the kindergarten. Yeah, so that was actually
the death I thought you were going to talk about from this segment, is
the Martin death, because this is one of these things where what actually happens
isn't too gory or gruesome or anything like that. Really, it's what you
see is Willy's like extended, cartoonishly long tongue wrapped around Martin. But then
Martin's reaction in the classroom when he wakes up and he's dying, is well
that's the thing. Yeah, true, true, just yeah, a couple
of screams and then falls in that jagged ass position and ah it is that
was like one of my most affecting moments, I gotta say. And then,
as you said, ending that scene with Nelson saying ha ha as well.
So yeah, I just that was one of my favorite because everyone always
goes to the shitting, but I think they the way they took off the
Nightmare elm Street series of that segment is almost up there. Arguably is it
better? I don't know, Like I just I mean, I think the
shitting is more memorable. But man, Evergreens Terrorists when it comes to parody,
is almost on the same level in my opinion. Well, it's also
trying so hard, like it does so much effort to make the dream sequences
look really cool and different as well, like other worldly, like in the
final showdown when you know Willi's the or mower and everything like, yeah,
the sky's that particular weird green gradient and just everything looks a little different,
like they really had to workshop this one. And yeah, the effort shows,
and it pays off as well, because yeah, I agree, it's
I don't know if it's better, but certainly up there with my favorite segments.
You may be have to explain it to me. The only thing about
that segment was that I never quite understood the ending with Willy coming off the
bus and trying to scare the kids. That was a weird thing. Yeah,
it was. It was certainly a choice just to sort of undercut his
whole danger and presence where like he just leaves something on the seat or whatever.
It's like, yeah, you have the shoe behind. But I was
like, so is he dead or is he not? Like maybe this is
a Freddy Krueger reference. I don't know, I've only seen like the first
Nightmare film. Yeah, yeah, I'm not too sure, but maybe you
guys can let me know. Simce his mailbager gym edit come. That one
always confused me. But yeah, Willy being burned to death and the fact
that you know, a he's burning to death and no one's doing anything about
it. It's just horrific. Happens have you got Yeah, let's jump to
the teens era for one. I think you guys might have done this episode
recently actually, where Homer was the blob okay, yep. Yeah, So
my gruesome death from this is one where Marge points out that he's eaten.
Yeah, so Homer's eating everything and everyone and he's turning into the blob and
Marge points out that he eats the cat. And you see Snowball twos or
five's whatever, Simpsons, the continuity you want to go with. You see
her head like poking out of the gut and then yeah, Homer just whacks
her with a butt. Yeah, it's just I don't know it was confronted
because it's anything of animal cruelty just gets me man, and hitting the cat
like several times before it actually died in the head with the frying pan.
I'm like, I don't know about this. Joys, guys, nice.
This is not funny in any way to anyone watching this show. I don't
think. No, Like, Homer blob eating the cat is one thing,
but then yeah it with a bat, like, I don't know, it
just you wouldn't have done that with the cat outside the stomach, and I
don't think that it makes it funny of being inside the stomach, and I
are, yeah, yeah, it was that was one where yeah, I
was like, oh that was that was a bit much. You just feel
bad, poor snoble, Yeah, did nothing wrong. Yeah, and for
a segment that was I think it was gonna always gonna happen, you know,
the Simpsons were always going to do a Blob parody and yeah. But
yeah, that was the most gruesome moment far and away from that one.
Most of it was just as I sort of would have expected, like the
Simpsons, just yeah, having fun with Homer eating people and things in various
funny ways. Yeah, just making an entree out of doctor Phil mcgrare and
all that. But yeah, the cat one was a bit too much for
me. I want to talk about a poo getting destroyed in the squishing Machine
from Hell to Pay for nine. I want to say the scariest part of
this for me was that you never actually he saw what happened. You just
saw the aftermath, kind of like Martin has slept to imagination, at least
with Martin sort of knew I got choked to death by the tongue of Willy
here, It's like, what the fuck happened to a pooh? Yeah,
that's one of the more underrated Trees of Horror segments as well. I think
from like the later years. When I said ladies, I mean like towards
the end of like the Golden era. I've always enjoyed Hell to Pay a
lot. Yeah, Oh, I really like Treehouse of Horror at nine.
I'm pretty sure I gave it like a perfect ranking, and like I do
grade the Treehouse of Horrors on a curve as well, because you know,
they're inherently different, beast, and I think, yeah, you've got to
more just sort of sit back and enjoy them. But yeah, Treehouse nine,
yeah you got hell to pay. The Itchy and Scratchy come to real
life. And then the Jerry Springer Maggie Aliens. Yeah, yeah, a
lot of people rag on that one. I think it's very good. I
love it, And now that Jerry Springer has gone, it's almost like a
little bit of the stage like, oh, I remember those days when people
can just go on TV you can get their tits out and but yeah,
and I'll always love it for the line it's like, ooh, Marge Maggie
lost her baby legs. I love the I always got a huge kick out
of Marge swearing when I was a kid. Oh yeah, the visual of
Joey springing it dying just hanging being joked by Maggie and just yeah, yeah
I started. That is a really good tress of horror that I don't think
people talk about anywhere near enough as a trilogy. No, but I mean
except for the mom all yeah, hell two pay is up there with my
favorite segments as well, and yeah, that our pool death is so bleak
and so horrifying. I love how this segment does build its villain or it's
killer in that way. And yeah, I possessed Homer and again cutting it
with jokes as well, where yeah you get to see the crime scene after
the fact and Arpoo's hanging upside down and like Chief Wigham drinking the squish,
how long are we gonna keep? Let me drink that? And my favorite
part almost the entire segment is the Hair's legs buckling as it's about to die,
Yes, as it's being shot, shaking its fist swearing revenge as well.
Great and yeah, not to be underrated. Yeah, now the gruesome
death is yeah, snake Homer killing bo as well getting the second in the
heart, Yeah, the corkscrew in the heart. Second of appearance of a
corkscrew on this podcast. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly what we do.
We're gonna be doing am a wrestling podcast after this. Maybe get a
few corkscrews in there as well. All right, what's your next one?
Uh oh, actually, yeah, let's throw back to a very early one
Homer's dream from Treehouse of Horror too. So yeah, this is like the
Mister Burns Frankenstein section. Like, now, you might not call them deaths
because they're both very alive and attached to each other by the end of the
segment, but I think as a good argument to make that both these people
definitely died in these moments. So yeah, But so first of all,
the moment where mister Burns and Smithers harvest Homer's brain. Yeah, first of
all the very cartoonish like soaring off the top of his head, like it's
just a little pop cape. And then yeah, the actual pulling of the
brain. I always like got a little squeamish when that has snapping sound.
That's why I watch it. I have to grab the back of my head
and be like, oh, it's kind of like when you see a guy
get keeps in between the legs in a film. Whatever, you or I
can feel that one. But yeah, the snapping of the brain getting pulled
out always gets me. I can hear it now, Yeah, yeah,
and even in these days where the animation, certainly in comparison to these days
is like fairly rudimentary and a bit crude, but yeah, no, less
effecting well, and yeah, the particular folly decision that they made there,
like what's the grossest possible sound that we can make for this coming out?
And like, yeah, it's equal parts cartoonish and gross and I really love
that. And also Burns dies that they're getting square by the fucking stun monster
at the end, doesn't he Yeah, the other gruesome death Like yeah,
just imagining this poor frailed old man just getting weight that would crush someone,
you know, five seven times his size, and just the particular way they
drew his neck as it was like flattening out underneath this robot as well,
like always stuck with me as well, Like, yeah, a very effective
segment, it really was. Yeah, when that always stood out to me
that I think the first time I was ever shocked by a trans of horror
was Trians of Horror four Terror five and a half feet when the gremlin holds
up Flanders decapitated head. M. Yeah, that for me, it was
the first time where I went, WHOA, I probably should have maybe,
I don't think I've watched the first two seasons. I didn't watch him in
real time, so I was sort of had to play catch up. I
remember seeing this this trans of Horror four before I saw most of the others,
and I remember they're just shocking me that the visual of Flanner's decapitated head
because they drew got the spine hanging out at the bottom and things like that,
and yeah, yeah, that's another segment that I've always been up in
my top five tur at five and a half. They've always really enjoyed it.
And I until I was never got the gag with Mollman driving the gremlin.
Oh right, I was like, for when I was a kid,
I was just thought, oh, so he thinks Moman is a gremlin because
he's ugly. Yeah, I was like, oh he's driving a gremlin.
There we go. Oh I never thought about that. Oh that's great.
Yeah, yeah, that a really amazing segment. And yeah, one of
the I'm realizing I actually haven't seen many of the things that they're parroting,
but yeah, this one are both the Twilight Zone TV and the segment from
the movie as well, starring John Lithgow all very good Dick Solomon from Third
Or from the Sun. That's right, Yeah, have you seen it the
Twilight Zone movie? Have you? Yeah? That he just does such a
good job in that, Like just what an amazing actor like And yeah,
if you've seen this segment, you're pretty much seen the segment from the movie.
But just imagine, Yeah, the dude from Third Rock and the Sun
in the place of bart here or the dad from Harry and Henderson's who says
we don't want you. Oh my god for Harry and we du from Cliff
had what an amazing career. John Lifthgow rules absolute champion. He was in
the latest of the remake of pet Cemetery. I want to say, oh
he was. He was the don't go down that Road character. I haven't
seen it, but yeah, and yeah he was in the last good season
of Dexter as well. Yes, yeah, what a man. Yeah.
So yeah, this has turned from a top Treehouse of horror deaths to best
John Liftgower appearances. I am the thing that you get touching on how you
know you hadn't seen the things at this parody. But one thing the Simpsons
did was okay, I was saying, he introduced young younger generation to like,
you know, these classic timeless things like the Twilight Zone and things like
that, where it made you want to go and explore what are they talking?
What is this? And it's sort of like by by parodying them,
they made you want to go and find out more about them. So I
feel we can think like we can thank the riders of the Simpsons and the
animators for pretty much turning this into nerds. I want to say, yeah,
absolutely, yeah, Well, I mean, sorry to jump ahead,
but yeah. My last one on my list is from Treehouse of Horror twenty
five. Sorry, Treehouse of Horror fifteen's The ned Zone, parody of the
film Stephen King's The Dead Zone. I think it's a Cronenberg one as well.
Yeah it is where yeah, Ned's getting all these premonitions of other people's
deaths and yeah, that's actually a Twilight Zone segment. Oh was it?
Yeah? Ah, there we go. So the guy, the Guy.
I'm pretty sure we explained it the in their review. I'll look it up.
The ned Zone the actual store because it's a title as a off the
title of the Dead Zone, but the actual story of a guy I've been
able to see people's deaths. I'm pretty sure was a Twilight Zone story.
Ah, there we go, yeah, because yeah, Ned's doing the premonitions
and like they're all pretty gory and like, yeah, but Hans Molmon getting
fed to alligators, You're like, yeah, it's Harns Moulmon. And but
then yeah, Hibbitt falling to his death and like with his last move he
injects himself with painkillers or something. But then, yeah, Homer's prolonged death
as he's also teasing Ned about oh you saw how I'm gonna die Ludardi dar
and like slapping the gun, go on, Ned kill me and like just
really tempting fate here, and then when it actually does happen, and yeah,
Ned is forced to shoot Homer multiple times even though he doesn't want to
to stop nuclear annihilation. And then Homer's prolonged death there and then eventual landing
of his tongue on the fucking nuke button is still so effective to me,
I'm looking up here the Dead Zone. You're right, so it is a
parody of the Dead Zone story, But I could have sworn guy I said
something about the Twilight Zone episode as well. I mean it probably is as
well. The Twilight Zone did a lot of did a lot of it inspired
a lot of stories, Yeah, I mean it is so many of the
tree House of Horrors as well. Like a few years ago, I ran
a Halloween trivia night and then I just did one segment dedicated to only tree
House of Horror trivia, and one running gag that I had was, oh,
what's this segment about? Parody on? And it was just all the
times they did the Twilight Zone, and it was like six of them,
Like it's so many, especially in the early days, like you feel like
you've watched them. For me, right, I felt like i'd watched The
Shining even though I hadn't, because I've seen The Shinning so many times exactly,
And you feel like you've seen the Twilight Zone even know you haven't,
because you're like, oh, I've seen actually I haven't, but I've seen
the Simpsons take it off so many times, and I kind of feel like
I have. Yeah, well I remember, because like, yeah, the
reason I watched Twilight Zone the movie was on my Patreon page over at patreon
dot com. Slash side Quest Studios. Hah, smooth Segway. We have
a podcast called Starring Springfield where we review movies that star the cast of The
Simpsons, and in the say and yeah, Nancy cart Right is in Twilight
Zone the movie. Also we get a little bit of Albert Brooks at the
beginning as well. But yeah, Nancy cart Right is in the segment that's
actually referenced by the Simpsons in bart Stream from Treehouse of Horror too, where
it's you know, the kid with all the powers and you know, mind
controls everybody. Yeah. Coincidentally enough, Nancy cart Right is in that segment
in the movie, but she's not playing a little boy in this one.
She's playing the tortured and tormented sister of Yeah, the little boy with all
the powers. It's amazing how many things the Simpsons casts have been in that
you just a lot of people have no idea, oh one hundred percent,
especially hankers Aria. That's the thing we're discovering from the course of this podcast
is that do was working on his backup plan all the while while what's going
on, not that he needed one, but just in case, no,
absolutely like just such a prolific and such an extended filmography. That dude,
it's surprising. Well he was going to be Joey in Friends? Yeah,
how about Johnny? Yeah, I'm pretty sure did he get He didn't then
get offered the role of Channel. I'm pretty sure offered a role. And
then either Matthew Perry or Matt LeBlanc like swooped in under like they go and
I actually want this guy instand I'm pretty sure like he was. He almost
got the cant right to play one of the boy Phoebe's. Yeah, he
gave him the spot. Is Phoebe's boyfriend here, David, I want to
say his name is? Which if you actually go back and watch that right,
even if you're not a Friends fan, find it's on Netflix here in
Australia. Friends and I do the podcast one about Friends with Nikola. It's
still one of my favorite stories is his Hekazari story with with Lisa Gudro,
Phoebe's character. It's just it's brilliant. I highly recommend anyone going, even
if you're not a fan of Friends, go and watch that episode. You'll
love it. It's is so fantastic in it. Yeah, I'll have to
check it out. Well, maybe i'll review it on that podcast too.
Yeah, you honestly, you'll love it. It's so it's it's actually quite
sweet and beautiful. Yeah, I want to talk about I think we've both
got this. We've touched on this as well in our our preparation. The
wood chipper scene from this is a great segment, by the way. I
love the idea of these marketing Basically the story is what's the name is it?
What's the name of the actual how to get ahead and advertising? Yeah,
so basically these advertising companies are hiring Homer to kill celebrities so they can
use their image for their marketing campaigns. And yeah, it's it's just for
a later for a teen treats of horror. I love it. I thought
it was really really good. I hadn't seen it for god knows how long,
and but yeah, Crusty being destroyed in that wood chipper. They didn't
shy away from it. You're just seeing like being slowly lowered into this aoidenancy.
He falls into it, but slowly going into the wood shiper and these
body parts that is spewing out the other side. It's just like whoa r
most No, this scene makes it look like they were holding back in Fargo,
you know, like, yeah, this was really honestly, that's not
even a joke, but this, honestly the Crusty woodchi percent. If you've
never seen this and you love Gore Man, this is right up your alley.
It's just anything where it's like a prolonged when the person knows a knows
are about to die and it's just a slow painful death. I mean if
everyone wants to go either and their sleep will go quickly. The idea of
just a slow, tortuous, painful death, oh no things. Yeah,
and it's it's an episode that ages very interestingly as well because it's taking on
the story that you know, apparently Disney and Mickey Mouse were like cracking down
on daycares and things that were just like painting pictures of their characters or whatever
on the walls to just make the kids happy. And it's like, who
do you think is making money? Like what why are you going after these
people? This is nothing? And yeah, so sim here, Yeah in
the daycare, the Krusty's Mob is just basically making people sand Blasty's image off
their walls without unless they're gonna pay them. So it's a it's a very
interesting thing now that yeah, Simpsons are under the thumb of the mouse.
But yeah, is when you go back and watch all the old episodes where
they sort of take the piss out Disney and it's like who got the last
laugh? Oh in the movie as well, you know, oh, I'm
the mask cover in an evil corporation. But yeah, so that the woodship
is scene. If you've never seen that when that was from Triosa Horror nineteen,
check out that one. But I also wanted to touch on these aren't
necessarily gruesome, but the visuals of them always sort of like maybe uncomfortable.
There's two of them. It's two choking deaths, right. The first one
is Homer suffocating the alien at the end of the et parody in Triosa Horror
eighteen, where he just puts the pillow over its mouth and just everyone just
watches him suffocated to death. And then there's the millhouse getting choked by I
think it's like Lisa's imaginary friend Rachel or something like that. Oh yeah,
like a bag over his head and not in the car. Like those visuals
just always I just felt very I felt very uncomfortable watching those ones. Just
the suffocating of the alien. I was like, ah, I know I
can sit there and watch and get shot and exploment into goo that I'm fine
with, but just just suffocating him, I'm just like, someone help it.
Yeah. No, there's a I think it's season twenty episode as well,
where it's a very cute episode where Homer and Ned sort of team up
and become bail bondsman and like bringing in people who are trying to skip bail
and whatever, and but Homer's method of neutralizing their targets is to, yeah,
put a bag over their head and suffocate them. And it's just like,
oh, it's it's so horrible, like especially like when you're told from
an early age, don't put a bag on your head. You know,
it's any kind of like I think, shouldn't this one have a warning at
the start? Yeah, you know what, the young boys or girls neutralizing
their their siblings by putting a bag over their head. No on, there's
this the I don't think you guys have gotten into it yet. It's where
Lurline Lumpkin punk comes back to town. I've heard so much about it though,
Yeah, yeah, say what you're will about the rest of the episode,
but it just has this wild, detached opening segment where it's like it
turns out it's Homer's dream, but like he very really yeah, apology so
spoiling this fifteen year old episode, but yeah, it's like and hom a
very like in a very like real feeling way, like yeah, puts a
pillow over Grandpa Simpson's face and like suffocates and kills him. Like it is
such a weird choice to open with this in an episode where it just had
nothing to do with it and it did nothing for the story. It was
almost just like a bit of filler that they just put in just because.
And I remember when we were reviewed it, it was like, was this
just a treehouse of horror segment that they got mixed in with their regular Simpsons
episode? What the hell's going on? They did? They did that once
in the in like the earliest seasons, though it wasn't necessarily a death,
but it was that parody of like Homer with the Planet of the Doughnuts,
remember that one where he's like having a weird which has nothing to do with
the episode, but it's just like his random weird dream. Yeah. In
the trial and everything as well, it's like eating his counsel. That's so
good. Can we also touch on the dolphins because that one, Oh that
was good. Yeah, that's that's one of the best ones of all time,
I honestly feel, because I just I just loved how brutal these dolphins
were. And yeah, dolphins are sort of like the puppy dogs of the
sea. We all love dolphins, right, but just seeing them come back
to get theirs, it's just like we kind of deserve it. Yeah,
not absolutely, like it makes a very solid point very early on how much
these animals must hate human interactions, and yeah, like makes a very very
good point. And having like Lisa as the one to sort of make it
and instigate this whole thing is just makes so much sense for her character.
And then yeah, how the dolphins do choose to take revenge, Like they
make them such a threat and they make them so evil, like it's a
it's a really cool thing they've done, Like, and yeah, from I
think the first one is like Lenny's night swimming drunken night swimming where he gets
beaten to death. Yeah yeah, and then yeah, the big fight at
the end, which the humans end up losing, got it. I remember
that one being memorable to me because it was the first time I've ever heard
an animated show say the words glory wholeh my god, what hey mam?
What's a glory hole? A sneaky Simpsons I know, right, but yeah,
so the deaths and nex, there's one where they dolphin goes through one
of the characters, right, yeah, that's right, he gets it through
the chest. I think that would make the most sense. Yeah. Yeah,
but they're slamming comic book Guy's head in the door and there's beaten the
ship out of a pool, and yeah, I just thought it was just
the idea of the dolphins being these vicious characters. It just always makes it
so memorable to me, just stands out. Yeah. Oh, it's like
the crusty doll segment as well, there's something very unsettling about Yeah, cute
thing goes evil like yeah, and it's a very good concept for a tree
House of Horror, so rich for that. Yeah, that's why I say,
like, because that's a take off of what is it called Trilogy of
Terror, where it's this little doll that comes to life and that's terrifying.
But like, I want to compare it to say, the Toy Story segment
that we touched on earlier. I remember you. I'm pretty sure you mentioned
it in one of your list to me, I'm just like, I watched
that segment and funt nothing mm no, just it was so nothing. Nah,
that whole tree House of Horror was a bit of a disappointment for me.
Like maybe it was one of these things that it was kind of hyped
up and a lot of people do favor it and it is why though,
well, I mean, I think the most wild fact about it is that
it was written by a former Simpsons podcaster in Julie from I can't even remember
what their podcast is called anymore. It's been so long Round Springfield, Everything's
Coming Up podcast. It changed a few times, but yeah, that,
yeah, that toy story segment, Like, and you would have thought it'd
be rich for that because yeah, Bart being a good sid cipher from Toy
Story, Yeah, torturing the toys and how they take revenge, but yeah,
not super effective on the yeah, gore and threaten everything. Yeah,
there was no jokes in the entire so I was like, was there a
single joke in this? Mmmm? Yeah, besides a rounding Newman parody which
would do. It wasn't even funny, and yeah, Bart's sort of being
frozen paralytic or whatever, and Marge crying at the end, like it was
just yeah, one of those moments where yeah, I was like, oh,
that's just sad. I didn't have fun. I didn't get scared.
It wasn't like really a horror thing. But yeah, yeah, but no.
One thing that did stand out to me in regards to recent Simpsons was
the deaths of the Global Warm employees in the Death Note Parrioer that we talked
about earlier. First of all, mister Burns getting his face burnt on the
on the barbecue horrific. But then there's one where someone gets sucked. Have
you seen the segment? Ah? I did, but I was extremely drunk
at the time, so I do not memory. Basically, Lisa has she
has the death Note the book so she can she writes in the book how
someone's gonna die and then they'll die. Yeah, and she's kind of kill
off these the employees of mister Burns's business and like one gets like sucked into
like the blades the propellers of a is it not propeller? What's it?
Is it? Of a? Plane. What is it that? Yeah,
I think that's a propeller. Propeller, yeah, anyway of the plane.
Just this go in just I'm just like alsa, it's instant, but just
a visual to seeing this person go in that side and the other side is
just smush, you know. Yeah, they one always just threats to me
and just mister Burns just falling over and just your head first. Can you
remember that seated where he sort of falls head first and his face lands on
this on the barbecue. Oh no, no, I can't. Like I
do remember the visuals being particularly striking, because yeah, for anyone that doesn't
no Death Note, it's like a Japanese animation and anime a cartoon and Simpsons
really go hard in on this style and like it barely resembles a Simpsons episode
as well. But yeah, just as far as fluid animation goes, it
is sensational. Again from what I remember, because I only like, like
we watched it because like a friend of mine who's a massive Debt Note fan,
was like, oh my god, you're a Simpsons fan. You still
haven't seen this yet. Oh it's so good. I remember being pleased at
the time, but I don't remember much else, I'm afraid. Do you
find yourself watching the new Simpsons. It's it's hard this year because the last
two seasons, we've been able to get them like three days late on Disney
Plus. We usually get him on a Wednesday, when the States get him
on the Sunday, so Monday I was like two days later. But this
season they haven't been putting on Disney Plus yet. It's really bizarre. So
VPN and all downloading it and watching it, but I feel like the last
two seasons I've been keeping up. I've seen every episode of the last two
seasons purely because they've just been easy to access, because for so long I
felt like I don't know where to find new Simpsons anymore. This I downloaded
it because channels did a pissball job of promoting when they were on and always
on one week and they wouldn't be on for another six and they put another
one on a different day. And do you find yourself catching up with recent
Simpsons? Because I do, But this season's just been very difficult so far.
Honestly, since the thirties. That sort of coinciding with yeah, me
going full steam ahead on this podcast, my wanting to watch Simpsons outside of
the podcast has lessened. It does that to you, doesn't it. It
takes your desire to want to watch them just in your own time away,
and it's sad. And that's what I said to Nicola recently. I was
like, I should just be I used to watch the Simpsons all the time,
because she watches Friends all the time. Right, I'm like, and
since I started doing this podcast, I think it was a case of I
didn't on to I wanted to go in fresh when I went back and revisited
an episode and things like that. But it's sad though, because the Simpsons
was my was almost like a friend, you know. I watched it all
the time. It was my comfort viewing. And the kids they didn't really
know what Simpsons was. And I was like, alleasantly five and he's barely
seen a Simpsons episode. So now I've started putting them on more and more
regularly, and the kids are now asking to watch the Simpsons and I'm just
like, oh, okay, we're getting this train bake on track, guys,
we're getting there. Well yeah, I mean similarly, for me,
it used to be background noise, like sometimes just doing like chores or whatever.
Like I would just throw on Simpsons or Futurama just like and not really
watch them because like I knew the episodes so well, it just sort of
quote along with them as I go. And then yeah, with commentaries as
well. Petary's in Bedman every night, just commentaries on yeah, exactly,
Like it's funny because yeah, they were like pretty much my segue into podcasting
and getting into that, Like I truly believe, because yeah, I could
stick the commentaries on do the dishes or whatever, not even look at the
TV and know exactly where in the episode they were, because yeah, especially
in those first fifteen seasons, I can recreate the episodes with my eyes closed,
I bet. And yeah, that's sort of one of the things that
like the caveats that I will say with the newer ones as well, is
that we don't exactly have that repetition anymore. And because there's so much stuff
out there, like you desire to watch the same thing that you might not
have enjoyed the first time. Definitely, Yeah, there's so many many other
things to go out there. Why would I want to, you know,
try watching the same episode of The Simpsons three times? Like, and I
will say that yeah, some of those episodes do improve on the second watch
as well. Like, but yeah, as far as watching new Simpsons,
like especially lately more in the last year, not so recently, but there
has been a lot of you know, is Simpson's good again sort of post
going round and sort of episodes that they mentioned as evidence of this, and
like I can interrupt, FYI, straight from the horse's mouth of the guy
who runs the show, is incredibly fucking offensive. Yeah, your videos and
your things saying you think you're giving the Simpsons credit by saying they're actually kind
of good again. What you're saying in saying that is they weren't good for
so long and now are they good again? Maybe, Like I just the
people behind the show just find that incredibly offensive. Just wanted to throw that
out there. Yeah, well, I mean that's why I sort of said
it in quotes then as well, because I feel like these articles are more
like trying to generate clickbait and like headlines and sort of clickable content. You
know, what I think I try to do with their Facebook page is that
I try to make it people realize that we're not just like a page just
post Simpsons memes where run by a guy who loves the Simpsons, and like,
I put up a photo recently of all my Simpsons vhs that I had
when I was a kid, and I've surprisingly everyone got confused, IM like,
we didn't have DVDs in the nineties, and I was like, they're
videotapes. No, they're not the DVD's. I'm like, how soon we
forget? I'm like, what, look at the picture. Yeah, they're
too thin to be video tastes like mad woman. Yeah, argue with me
the person who owned them? What? Yeah? And I had got to
the point where I had to put a video of me filming them, and
still some guys were just like, nah, still looks doesn't look legit to
me. I'm like whatever, but I try to make fourfing a discount be
a page that's clearly run by a Simpsons fan, not to someone who's just
trying to like you're saying capitalize on the title of is the Simpsons good again?
Or just just you know, you get your websites like, I'm sure
there's people are cracked and things like that who love the Simpsons, but they
just love their fucking top ten this and Top ten that thirty six times Homer
was a good father and that kind of thing, you know. Yeah,
But I mean, I will say objectively, I think since season thirty one
there has been a market improvement in the show, and it just feels like
there has been a bit a lot more effort into creating proper stories and like
really accentuating the flow and not just making like a random assortment of shit happening.
I can tell you why off the air ahlusive exclusive, but yeah,
especially in the tree House of Horrors, which I think are the ones that
do get shared, because I mean especially I think it was last year or
the year before they did an entire it parody for an entire episode that was
sort of separate from a Treehouse of Horror, And Halloween of Horror is another
one, which is fantastic, fucking excellent episode of the best episodes honestly of
the last fifteen years. Yeah, honestly, Like, yeah, Halloween of
Horror is just such an achievement. I think, like it almost makes me
sad that they didn't try and go for a non Treehouse Halloween episode again.
But then also at the same time, I really liked what they did there,
so like I don't bemoan them for not like that's the one time.
And that was written by Carolyn Amine, who's coming on the show in the
weekly right. Also she wrote the latest episode mid Childhood Night's Dream. I
am not exaggerating everybody. When that episode finished, I groped my heart and
cried, and I have not cried at a Simpsons episode. Last my c
SIMS episode was when I rewatched and Making Makes three after having Holly, and
it was like, you know, I wasn't after It was actually like a
year ago because I quit my job at my previous employer and I took a
chance on myself to try to try this podcast thing, and you know,
sort of a bit sort of scared, and it's just the fear that goes
into that of a wanted to take a chance on yourself, but b what
am we going to do if it fails? Right? And luckily I had
Nicola to back me up. She's kicking goals at her job and things like
that, and it's paid off with the podcast thing, and but just seeing
that, you know, he does everything for his daughter, and I'm just
like, oh, like when we become a father, that that ending just
hits you so hard. But honestly, the end of this latest episode and
mid Childhood Night's Dream unbelievable. So basically it's a take, it's not taken,
but the story is that Marge is fearing that her kids are growing up
and they're not her little babies anymore. And there's one scene where like Marge
grabs Bart's hand because he's heard it or whatever. She goes, when did
your hands get so big? He's like, I don't know. She's like,
I guess I just don't hold hands all that often anymore. And then
there's something that happens at the end. Oh my god. Man, if
you can get access to that episode and you haven't watched it yet, do
so. It is unbelievable. And Carolyn wrote that episode as well. So
we're gonna be doing a deep dive on that episode because there's a really lovely
story behind it. Oh wonderful. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that.
Yeah, it's the parts that I do, like, yeah, feel
so good when Yeah, Simpsons do really show that they are still trying in
these days and like do sort of those stories that really delve deep into those
concepts And yeah, that and Halloween of Horror, the idea that Yeah,
Lisa being scared and Homer having to comfort that is while also being scared himself.
These are being scared as well, having to admit to his kid that
he's scared. Yeah. Yeah, just such real shit that, Yeah,
that just happens to come through the cipher of these yellow cartoon characters. Yeah,
And I know it's patronizing to sort of say it feels like they're trying
more now, but it really, it just does. It felt like for
a while there that they were just making shows, where here it feels like
they're treating it just I know that's not what happened, but it just comes
across now that each episode they've put just so much more thought into it,
and there's a real love and passion behind the show. Again, And honestly,
if you haven't watched the last couple of seasons, do it, because
there are way more good episodes they're not in the recent seasons. Yeah,
and from what I've understood as well, they've brought in some newer, fresher
riders into the team as well, and I think that'd yeah, just rejuvenated
the show quite a bit. Yease. Speaking of a new passions that seems
to be coming through with the Simpsons is the Trance of Horror. Last year
thirty three, So last year it was the year before it was. Last
year wasn't thirty three, it was last year. It was the one Simpsons
World that written by Matt Salomon. Have you seen Simpsons World? I don't
think so. You haven't seen Simpsons World? Wow? We So basically it's
a take off of West World and it's people. There's a theme park that's
all of the classic Simpsons moments that people can go and relive their classic Simpsons
moments but be like they're all animatronic Simpsons. It's so fucking good. But
it's just filled with like hundreds of classic Simpsons references. Like it starts off
with them being on the monorail and things like that, and there's all these
little like Easter eggs in there. But Matt Summer message mean, he was
like, hey, do you know you're in the latest Simpsons episode. And
I was like what, You're like, yeah, yeah, it's like you're
gonna really lit the lates Simpsons episode. And I'm like why and he's like,
I know, just check it out. I'm like okay. And in
the episode there's two Aussie super fans who who have gone to Simpsons World And
he was like, you know, because of you guys down there, four
figure discount inspired us to do this bit. And I was like, cool,
Oh that's amazing. Oh that's awesome, well done. Yeah yeah,
So check out Simpsons Well because if you haven't checked that one out, it's
just a love letter to classic Simpsons. I can't believe you haven't seen Simpsons
World. Who. I did a whole video on YouTube about all the references
in the in the segment, it's it's it's honestly one of my favorite Treets
of Horrors of all time segments. Oh awesome, Well, yeah, that's
my afternoon sorted. Check out six as well. You'll really really enjoy it.
But one more death that I wanted to touch on, and it comes
from my favorite Treots of Horror segment of all time. I know, and
it's not part of Trees of Horror six as a trilogy. Tree of Horror
six is my favorite, but this is my favorite Tres of Horror segment of
all time, and it's one you've already touched on. It's not me a
cafeteria. I always wanted to touch on poor little Millhouse falling into the blender.
My god, Like, what a visual the moment where we were like,
oh, how are the Simpsons kids gonna get out of this whacky adventure?
Oh they might not. Yeah, oh shit, I'm sure nothing will
happen to the Simpsons children. And I thought they did that scene so well,
particularly Milhouse's death right they left it to the very last second before they
cut away, where for some reason, they did it so well that in
my brain you did see him get destroyed. You're like, oh, yeah,
that time you see Milhouse fall to the blender, we don't really see
him get killed, but they do not say well that you almost feel like
you do. Oh absolutely, Like just the way that they drew the fear
on Millhouse's face, and like doing it for like again using the animation techniques
that they had when they, especially compared today, had such a limited palette
of yeah, making the choices of to shoot it from the perspective of the
blender and making it look huge and making those blender blades look massive, and
then yeah, having Millhouse coming forward and falling into it like that is really
affecting shit. And because it is the idea of falling to my death just
terrifies me. But knowing it to fall into a blender, would you rather
go feet first or headfirst into a blender? I don't know, Man,
it looks like it's all over with pretty qu quickly, and I'm sure that
even a half a second difference of getting minced in a blender. Yeah,
I think I'd rather go ahead first if it saved myself even a half a
second of torturous spain. But I wonder if you didn't feel it, you
probably would for for if his feet first, you probably would feel it for
a second. Right, Yeah, I know when they were talking about the
whole when they're sub imploded earlier this year, they were like, they wouldn't
have felt anything. It would have gone there and then they weren't so quick.
But I feel if you're falling into a blender, you're feeling that shit
for a bit first, right, I reckon? So maybe your body does
something with adrenaline and shock, but I don't know. It also makes me
think of that South Park bit with that teacher who goes to commit suicide and
the band saw and first goes, oh god, that's terrible. First,
that would like, yeah, we review that for going down to southwik If
you're a fan of south check out my South Park podcast, Golden Down to
South Park, available for free wherever you find your podcast, Spotify and all
that, and you get exclusive skip Aheaded reviews on our Patreon channel, where
we have just reviewed Scott Tenneman Must Die. Oh a classic, bona fide
classic, that one. It's arguably the best episode ever. It's sort of
like the episode that sort of the better episodes. So there are better episodes,
but they wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for Scott Tenemon Must Die.
That was where they realized, oh shit, we can actually run wild with
this show. If people are willing to buy that Cartman is capable of this,
then then they'll buy anything. Yeah, and especially to get Radiohead on
board is just so inherently funny cancer of the ass, like, because I'm
pretty sure they refuse Simpsons at one point as well, Like I think I
were one of the very few people like Pearl Jam who have actually refused being
a guest star on the Simpsons. But Sting was meant to be Bruce Springsteen.
Oh really in the Radio Barred episode. Yeah, it was originally going
to be Bruce Springsteen. He turned them down, so they got Sting instead.
It turned out even better because Sting used to be he's a dig holes
for a living. Oh is that right? Oh there we go. Yeah,
in training for the role then he had been indeed, yeah, yeah,
home. Is that all the gruesome deaths we're going to talk about here
today? Is any more? You want to flick over before me? I
will got this episode of four Thing of Discount extra. Yeah, I will
throw one quick honorable mention to don't have a cow mankind. I didn't pick
it for like the original list because like there isn't one sort of death that
sticks out into it. So basically what it is, it's a parody of
twenty eight Days Later where Camp Brockman Zombie one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Camp Brockman. It's a tainted krusty burger. I think it was the
burger was like cow squared or something that it was made from cow fed cow
and cow sed cow. Yeah that's what it was, and yeah that's how
they made it. So yeah, it's from Treehouse of Treehouse of Ora twenty
from season twenty one, and yeah, it's just a really well done segment.
Like the whole thing has like a different color template to it, where
it's a lot more gray and really moody. And yeah, the zombies in
this one so much more visceral and vicious, Like this is one of the
benefits of HD era of the Simpsons that, yeah, they can indulge some
of these more animation choices, whereas the zombies in the I think it was
the season four Treehouse of Horror or whatever it was Darzy for Zombies. Darzy
for Zombies was three three. Yeah, Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
so that one was a bit more cartoony and just a bit more sort of
they just take a bite and chunk out of like this one, Like,
yeah, there's a lot more frames per second, so there's a lot more
done in the animation, and they're right, a lot more frothy zombies,
like they're a lot more like people turned mad rather than a zombie sort of
archetype sort of thing. Yeah, so I really love that segment. And
yeah, Appo driving that giant truck with the cowcatcher on front. Yeah,
there's some really good shit there. You're supposed to wait for me at the
bottom. Yeah, I can't believe we've missed one. When that we both
discussed in prep for this episode. Oh, what's that scho Bob killing Bart?
Ah, Yeah, it's because I hate this segment. It was on
the level of Homer eating himself in a sense that it wasn't necessarily gory,
but just really uncomfortable. Yeah. Look, because you have to take it
with the context of the whole story of Sideshow Bob wanting to kill Bart.
I guess my problem with this is it's just kind of kind of the Scratchy
finally gets itchy sort of thing, where like, yeah, the joke where
they had that in an episode was just yeah that we didn't get to see
it, and I don't know that we got to see it, and we
got to see side show Bob catch Bart so much it was it lacked any
sort of sense of satisfaction within that story and just being like yeah, fanfic
and like, yeah, just really boring. Again, it harkens back to
a different Itchy and Scratchy carto in the one where he's like cloning all the
scratches and then killing them and sending them straight to the killing machine. Yeah
and yeah, so without the context of the whole side Show Bob story,
it's just watching an adult kill a child. Over and over again. I
did like the line of I've spent twenty four years trying to to kill a
ten year old boy or something like that. But yeah, it's I remember
being really excited for that one too. I remember feeling like, oh,
this is gonna be an awesome he finally kills but it feels like not on
the same level. But it kind of gave me the feeling of, like
Barton Lisa was, this is whe where Itchy Scruthy finally gets itchy. Yeah,
it's like it's finally gonna happen, and then when you get it,
you're like, uh, yeah, maybe we shouldn't have got it. Yeah,
this is this isn't fun for anybody, but anyway, No, it
has been fun talking to you, sir. Yes, no, this has
been a great little session checking out some of our most gruesome moments from the
Treehouse of Horrors. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I'm going have to have
you on more regularly. Could we do another Halloween themed one? Do you
think? I mean, this is the Halloween season. What would be another
Halloween themed one? Though we talked about the gory deaths that's sort of like
the The Key of Trees isn't it that the gory deaths? Yeah, I
suppose so. I mean they do a lot of parodies in this one as
well, so like maybe their best parodies or h right in listeners Simpsons Mailbag
at gmail dot com and offer some suggestions for Ali and I to cover future
topics. That doesn't have to be Halloween ones, just future episodes. We'd
love to hear what topics you'd like us to cover here on four finger Discount.
Yeah. I mean been studying Simpsons my whole life, and been studying
it very heavily for the last seven years doing the Simpsons Index. So yeah,
I feel like between us we've got a fair amount of Simpsons knowledge that
we'd be happy to take on any topic you throw at us, just in
case there's anybody out there who doesn't know what Elliott does. When you mentioned
the Simpsons Index, you want to just give us the shill, give us
the spiel. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I'm a host of the
Simpsons Index. We have different guests on every week to talk about various Simpsons
episodes. We used to review three at a time, but we caught up
to the series. So yeah, we've reviewed the first nineteen seasons of the
show and most of the rest of them. And so yeah, now we're
reviewing one episode at a time again, Yeah, different guests every week.
And yeah, we've actually reviewed the first thirty two Treehouse of Horrors, so
yeah, you're have to wait until we review the next thirty two tree House
of Horrors. But yeah, go check them out the Simpsons index dot com.
It's a great time. Make sure you do that. I'll put the
link for that in the description of this pob. Like I said, guys,
Simpsons mailbag at gmail dot com, let us know some future topics for
us to cover here on fourfing a discount extra because each week we're gonna be
discussing something Simpsons based. And like I was saying to you off air the
other day, it's like I thought I was getting bored of reviewing episodes of
The Simpsons season eighteen, but it's just like people aren't as interested in season
eighteen episodes as they are at the Golden era. So it's like and the
reason I started this podcast was to capture the vibe of being of ANUE mates
and talking what it was like being drawing up in the nineties and talking about
the Simpsons when it was the biggest show on television. The excitement of talking
about the Simpsons. I wanted to recapture that and find light minded Simpsons fans,
which is what I'm trying to do here with Fourthing Discount Extra is just
recapture that that excitement of just talking about your love of the show. You
know, yeah, absolutely, because that you know, Simpsons quotes and sattings
and everything that was like currency on the play. You know, we traded
in those sayings and quotes and everything, and like, yeah, it's built
a language, and I think it's got a unique fandom in Australia as well.
And I love like because yeah, like I said, I got rotating
guests on my show as well. It's like and often it's the first time
I'm meeting these people on the podcast, and it's like having this common ground
is just so lovely to yeah, kick off wonderful friendships like this inde.
So make sure you check out the Simpsons index. Like I said, link
is in the description of this pub But thank you guys for checking out this
episode of four Figured this Gain Extras to Elliot, J and Neil, thank
you so much for joining me. It's been a hell of a good time
and forget. Also check out a Good Day w podcast where we talk about
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that out at Good Day EWRY. Thanks again, guys, and we'll catch
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