Hour 1 – Swings and Misses in the NBA, Chaos in the College Football Playoff

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Speaker 5: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Those watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner, download the app if you haven't done so. Kurt Warner, NFL MVP and Super Bowl Champ. A little bit later on, Brian Winnhorst on a couple of NBA items, including Yannis and Jannis got injured in the first quarter of the game last night and then didn't come back, but they're hoping he wants to come back to Milwaukee for the long haul. But Wendy brought this up at the start of the year that Jannis had expressed an interest in being traded to the Nick So Whndy, you'll join us. There's been a lot of talk about, you know, where Jannis is going to go. I think he turns thirty one tomorrow or the next day. But you know, when you look at a franchise and you think you got it set up, you think you did it right, and you know, I can give you credit for boldness, but the league is too deep and too competitive to sit still and just say, oh, we got draft picks and we're going to grow aggression cuts both ways. When it works, you get to hang banners. When it doesn't, it's a disaster Milwaukee with the Dame Lillard big swing and miss, and that was exposure that was supposed to extend a championship window. Instead the Bucks under five hundred. Dame Lillard's gone, and now Jannis reportedly asking out how about the Clippers. They spent years flipping picks prospects, and you know they wanted to have a veteran super team. They're six and sixteen, no first round pick on the horizon, and a harsh reminder what happens when that bill finally comes due. You also have Dallas, the Mavericks. They emptied future draft picks. They build around Luca, then they trade Luca. They bring in an aging, injury prone big man. They're eight and fifteen. You take a swing, you take a miss, and sometimes it can hurt a franchise for a long long time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Paulin twenty twenty one, the Milwaukee Bucks won the NBA Finals Mike Budenholzer. Two years later they have a first round exit and they fire him. And it's one of those situations where your expectations get heightened and you get rid of the person who caused those expectations to happen.

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Speaker 2: And you have a window of opportunity here. And they thought bringing in a guy who can help in the pick and roll with Yiannis with Dame Lillard, but it didn't work out the way it was scripted. And now Dame is done and Jannis could be as well. But this is what you don't want to do. If you're Milwaukee. You don't go, now, who could we trade him to? Okay, once you go to the Knicks, how about we bring in Karl Anthony Towns. That's not an answer that would not solve the problem here. If you're Milwaukee, then can you get X number first round picks for uh Jannis? I mean, Oklahoma City doesn't have enough roster spots for all of the draft picks they're going to have. What if you said to and OKAC can say, well, we want a title without him. Right now, we're twenty one and one. We don't need him. But if you think about it, if you're OKAYC, you got three picks in the first fifteen this year, right now, what if you said, we'll give you the these three first round picks and maybe a player too, and you bring in Yannis at age thirty one. To me, that would be intriguing from Milwaukee's perspective. I don't know what OKAYC would think about this, but you bring Yannis in with that group, and you don't want to mess with chemistry as much as we like to go. Oh well, man, imagine that you put an all star on that team and you've got great chemistry obviously. But other teams that are mentioned san Antonio Spurs pairing him with.

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Speaker 5: Victor Wenden Yama.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the Rockets names just another team that's come up so there's going to be a lot of teams that would be interested. The Miami Heat. They seem to come up, you know, all the time when it comes to trades, potential trades. But we'll talk to Wendy about that. That what can you get in return? Because you got to think of it two ways. It's we always think of the player going to the team, and you go, yes, but what about the team who's giving up that star player. It's like Luca, you know, we celebrated man, he's going to the Lakers. Good for the Lakers, And I go, okay, what's Dallas getting? And that's the bad part of the deal. If you would have said that they got a couple of players you could build on and that we're younger, then you go, okay, I kind of get it. But Anthony Davis and then you have a GM goes, well, you know you win with defense. Yeah, if the guy's healthy enough to play defense, then maybe you do. But you did get to an NBA Finals with a guy who was out of shape, and now he goes to the Lakers. It's what do you get in return? That's what I would want to know, you know, if I'm the Knicks, and I can get Yannis. Hell Ya, you got to win a title. I mean it's been a long long time since you won a title. So now you get a chance to put Brunson with Jannis. Okay, now, I know you're going to give up, you know, players, but what I mean, you get an opportunity to get a guy like this. And yes, it might be a window of three years or four years to win that title, but the Celtics are down this year, like now is the year to take advantage of that. With no Jason Tatum, I mean, who are you going against Detroit, Miami. Indiana doesn't have Halliburton. So take advantage of the window of opportunity, certainly in the East, to get to the NBA finals.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, all right.

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Speaker 3: My issue is when the Knicks get eliminated if they get Giannis because they don't have enough depth. It's because you trade it Karl, Anthony Towns, Josh hart Landry Shammitt, Deuce McBride. That's how you win an NBA championship. That's how the Bucks, that's how the Nuggets win an NBA championship. That's how a thunder win NBA championship with depth, Joannis and Brunson aren't gonna win an NBA title just with them and just a bunch of guys.

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Speaker 2: So that's my only you think they're Do you think they're winning a title with Karl Anthony Towns and Jalen Brunson and Landry Shammitt.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they winning title etaway short, Okay, Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 5: It's one of those things though.

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Speaker 6: When I think about Giannis, I think it was two years ago he signed a three year, one hundred and eighty six million dollar extension, and it is right after they went out and got Lillard to convince him to stay. It'll almost be sad if he leaves the Bucks.

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Speaker 5: They had it.

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Speaker 6: They had an international superstar for a long time and and they're not going to keep him the whole way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but he gave them a title, right, I.

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Speaker 6: Guess it's more about what they could have done for the second half of his career and a series of missteps, which I don't think people criticize a Lillard acquisition at the time.

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Speaker 5: You look back with different view of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we looked at Milwaukee and we said their best, second best player would be Chris Middleton or Drew Holliday. At the time, with Dame Lillard, you were getting, you know, a sniper, you were getting an elite score to take the pressure off Jannis.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Like, I don't think the Dame move was a bad idea. It just didn't work. There's no reason that on paper it wouldn't have been perfect. It just for some reason it just didn't click. But I don't think it was a bad idea necessarily.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was a great swing.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm not the GM, I'm not part of the fan base, and I can only see it from my perspective, and I thought, okay, because I thought, you know's these teams in the East were loading up and you had to do something as well. Chris Middleton's a good player, Drew Holliday really good player. Dame gave you something a little bit more. It just didn't work out. And now Giannis is looking around going, we're not winning anytime soon here. I may not get another opportunity to play and win. And you can tell when he plays he plays hard, he plays with passion. And I think it's hard to accept losing because at some point in your career, when you play in your on losing teams. You have to kind of accept that you may lose tonight. And that's hard to do because most of these guys come from programs where they don't lose. You know, I remember players from Duke would go to the NBA. They'd lose more games in two weeks. You know, Christian Latner, he'd lose more games in two weeks than he did in you know, his entire senior year. But I think that's the part that you have to factor in. Jannis wants to be mentioned with Luca, with Joker, he wants to be mentioned with SGA. He wants to be and he's not. You know, it's almost out of sight, out of mind. And he's having another great season. He puts up incredible numbers. But we've gotten to that point where we go, okay, you know, you average thirty, and you average twelve, and you average you know six, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 3: And now Giannis is playing for something different than being the best player in the game. He's playing for a top ten all time spot now with his numbers, and you can't be an all timer, at least a top ten all timer without more than one ring. So he's playing for more than just the best.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, I went back.

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Speaker 6: And looked it up quickly because you mentioned late in there. In four years at Duke, he lost twenty six games as a rookie with the Timberwolves. In ninety two he lost sixty three games.

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Speaker 2: Bob Brought to you by Panini America, the official trading court to the Dan Patrick Show. NBA title odds as of this morning, it's the Thunder overwhelmingly followed by the Nuggets, Rockets, Lakers, Calves, Nicks, and then the Pistons. You're looking at the West Thunder, Nuggets, Rockets, Lakers, four best odds to win the title. Then you have the Calves, Knicks, and Pistons. If you're Detroit and you added Giannis, I mean that's a good team. I don't know who you have to give up, but Detroit has become a really good team and we saw them be a tough out in the playoffs last year. The Knicks, well, you want to get clicks, talk about the Knicks and getting Yanis as well. I'm sure the Lakers are going to be interested in Janness. I saw that yesterday. I'm like, okay, are you giving up Luca?

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Speaker 9: Like?

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Speaker 2: Who you get Austin Reeves? And I don't know how many draft picks. I don't think they have too many draft picks here to give up. But I did see that there was also and I don't know if it's true or not, but was Golden State interested in Well, I'm sure they were in Yannis last year because I had heard that from somebody affiliated with Golden State and they even said, hey, we're trying to kick the tires on Yannis. But once again, Wendy had the story and he said the Knicks that was the place that he thought Janis was gonna want to go if he was able to be traded. All right, that'll be coming up poll question today. Did I already ask that Seaton?

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Speaker 5: You have not? You have not?

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Speaker 7: We have many many options. You know where you can find them after the break, after the break.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, let me see still working on this cough here, So bear with me if I have some silence here a little bit.

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Speaker 5: But you know it's Todd said, you're unbelievable. Just dramatic pause, dramatic cough held it Now. Nothing gets attention like silent.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know when the best part of the show is silence. It says a lot, right Toddler okay eight seven seven eight seven seven three DP show email address. I got this this medicine ball from Starbucks. It's just a bunch of tea and some honey and something something. I don't know if it helps, but it certainly tastes good.

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Speaker 10: Get that on the side.

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Speaker 4: I'll make you feel better.

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Speaker 5: How do you think you're doing so? I'm not doing that great, But there's a lot of time left. There's a lot of time after that could be good and bad. I'm gonna jump in during those pauses and kill it. Oh so when you sense there's a pause, I'm ready to call it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say something, even if it's not worth anything.

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Speaker 5: You'll come to the rescue. Well, great, we're all in great hands.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna take a break because after the break, we're gonna find out our poll question. Today National Signing Day, we'll talk about who did and who didn't in Penn State is still looking for a head coach? Are they swinging for the fences? Because man, I've exhausted my sources with this, like what is going on? And both of them yesterday said we don't know, and I don't know if they know. But if you're gonna promote, you can't fire James Franklin and then say we're going to promote from within, and you know, without doing that initially to say no, we have our guy, We've we've already had him. They've had some people who have decided to take other jobs. Yesked Paulic refreshingly. The Louisville head coach Jeff Brohm, who was a hot prospect. He's staying at Louisville. Yeah, that's refreshing. Yeah, we've seen some coaches who have stayed Dandy, Missouri Louisville, so not everybody goes. And I think I think the Mississippi Police Department is pushing back on Lane Kiffin saying somebody tried to run him off the road when he was going to the airport to fly to Baton Rouge. And then I love that Eli Manning put out a tweet and he just said, oops, as if he was the guy who was trying to run Lane Kiffin off the road. Uh, Lane, just go to LSU.

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Speaker 5: Just go.

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Speaker 4: Time before we applaud all the coaches that stayed, do we know the whole story is to what they will offering and what schools were involved, as opposed to I think I should just stay here because I want to live forever here at this time.

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Speaker 5: Stile, I'm gonna guess Vandy, Missouri Louisville.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they had opportunities to go elsewhere, those coaches, I'm gonna guess they did. Yes, let's take a break. Okay, we're back after this in The Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: We will come up with a pole question here for the first hour of the program. I saw this on three Sports had an estimate of what James Franklin's firing and the vacancy the opening at Penn State cost college football Okay Indiana head coach Kurt Signetti, Matt Ruhle at Nebraska they were up maybe early October for the Penn State job. They signed contract extensions at the end of the season. A and M gave Mike Elko contract extension. Missouri did the same to Eli Drinkwitz. Clark Lee a new deal at Vanderbilt, Brent Key contract extension at Georgia Tech, and according to On three Sports, all of those contract extensions totaled more than three hundred and seventy million dollars. Thank you, Penn State. All these coaches, that's where they don't want to take the job, but they want to at least give the indication that, well, you know, I could, and then they quickly you know, extend their head coaches.

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Speaker 5: All right, what's poll question here? Seating for the first hour of the program.

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Speaker 7: If you were a top high school athlete, well a football player, your college decision would be based mostly on the head coach, your chance to make it to the NFL, your chance to win, or the nil deal. Yeah, I gotta admit I think it'd be kind of all of them. Yeah, I mean, I know you can only pick one, hence the pole question. I feel like it's kind of a combination of them, all right, Like, if you go to the right head coach, he's going to give you a better chance to win and make it to the NFL.

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Speaker 5: But that might the nil deal might not.

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Speaker 7: Be the best, or I could be even better.

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Speaker 2: I think you go play for the coach because you want to know what style you play, especially if I'm an offensive player, I want to know what kind of offense that he runs. If he's a defensive minded guy and I'm a defensive player, great, I think it's all about I get to play. I want to try to play in the NFL. You hope that there's an nil pocketbook waiting for you there, so I would I would say the coach, I would want to go play for that guy.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Todd, I think that sounds good.

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Speaker 4: But when a seventeen or eighteen year old kid sees major dollar signs and they're like, you know, I'm going to take this big money. Maybe my family needs the money. We don't know what their financial situation is. And then I'll prove myself at whatever that school is, even if it wasn't my first or even tenth choice of where I wanted to play, And then as far as the NFL things like that, that'll play itself out based on my ability hopefully.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's very narrow minded, and that's why hopefully you have some kind of parental guidance there that can help you. Don't think about what it is right now in front of you. You can get your money. You don't want to go to your tenth school because they're going to pay you more, and it's not the right school because then you're gonna end up transferring. I think you got to go where you like the situation, you like the coach, you like the competition and the ability to be able to play in the NFL. You're gonna not everybody who's going to be a millionaire. And you know, if you're a good football player, if you get NIL, great, maybe you prove yourself there and then you transfer and you get more NIL money. But I would say you go to play for that coach. Yes, Pauline, I.

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Speaker 6: Think twenty years ago, I would have only gone to a heavyweight school. But like that that drop back passer from Tennessee who chose to pass on Georgia to go to Vanderbilt, you can go to the pros from Vanderbilt. These days, the playing fields even out a little bit. Fernanda Mendoza could be a top five pick from Indiana.

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Speaker 5: So twenty years.

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Speaker 6: Ago, I'm going to Georgia, Ohio State USC if I'm a top quarterback and I'm not really flirting with second tier schools no offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we've seen these second tier schools. They're going to be getting into the playoffs. If we expand to sixteen, then you're gonna have more teams playing playoff games as well. Look at SMU, Indiana out of Nowhere, Arizona State. You got schools this year, Boise State last year. So I think you can go to the major schools. But then if you're looking at the major schools you might go. Is Penn State to major school Are they trending more towards being Nebraska than they are Michigan or Ohio State or Indiana?

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Speaker 5: Yeh see, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I guess that's one of the funny things about NIL is that now there's more of an emphasis on going to a place where you could play, Whereas before the best thing you could do is sit for two years behind all of these other superstars that you know are going to the NFL, and then it'll be your turn. Now you can Well, I could get a couple bucks in my pocket and go play right now, and that's gonna actually give me a better chance to get to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great, you know what, Yeah, because you want to play. I think that's probably the overriding factor it would be for me. Do I want to go and sit I get paid, I'm gonna sit You know this, This is what Nebraska and Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan used to do back in the seventies, a USC. They just stockpiled talent of the U where you go, Wait a minute, that guy's the backup to the backup running back. Yeah, John and Illinois, Good morning, John. Went's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Hey, DP, how's it going. I've got a question I was noticing yesterday, and it seems like to me that maybe Penn States is in a little bit of trouble because Jimmy Sexton is kind of owning college football right now with the fact that you know his agents James Franklin and or James Franklin is his agent, and now basically he's in a position where they he's controlling all the coaches now and saying, hey, you know, just because you fired my guy, my guys aren't gonna go there coach for your job. They're not gonna go play, They're not gonna go coach in state because you treated James Franklin Portland stuff. And I was just curious kind of your guys' thoughts is is he kind of becoming this agent zar or college football and owning all these coaches and all these programs and saying, you know, saying, yep, if you treat my coach poorly, you're not gonna go coach it. I'm not gonna let him go coach anymore because you fired him in the middle season for no reason.

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Speaker 5: And now yeah, I sound that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that story yesterday. Yeah, make no mistake about it. Jimmy Sexton is controlling college football with all the coaches that he represents, And hey, you did James Franklin dirty. I'm not gonna send one of my clients there. I mean, I don't know if you use one client and how he was treated and not give one of your clients and opportunity to be able to coach at Penn State. Still great resources there, great environment there for football, but I think they overplayed their hand. You get rid of James Franklin, Okay. And I always say, if you get rid of Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh, who you bring it in? And you know, now, all of a sudden, you know Ben Roethlisberger is connecting Mike Tomlin with Penn State.

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Speaker 12: Here is Ben Roethlisberger. No, It's been talked about around here a lot. Maybe it's time. Maybe it's a clean house time. Maybe it is. Maybe it's time. And I like coach Tomlin. I have a lot of respect coach Tomlin. But maybe it's best for him too. Maybe a fresh start for him is what's best, whether that's in the pros, whether.

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Speaker 5: Maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know what he would do at Penn State. He'll probably go win national championships. Okay, Ben, that's football.

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Speaker 2: In with Ben Roethlisberger, It's one thing to think that, it's another thing to say it. And the fact that he's said it now all of a sudden, it just gathered momentum yesterday and now we start to look at scenarios. Wow, what's he gonna do? Okay, we haven't heard anything from the Steelers. Tomlin said, Hey, I get why they're gonna boo me. You know, there's a certain standard here. But Ben talked about Mike Tomlin is a great recruiter. When does he recruit. He doesn't recruit at Pittsburgh. Do you want to do that? Do you want to be in a eighteen year old's living room? Around the country, I mean, pro football has it, it is scheduled. Brilliantly, college football combines everything. How about nil and portal and coaches leaving in the playoffs, and we're going to do that in a month. Silly NFL has it all blockdown time for this time, for this time, for this time, for this it's all scheduled. Tomlin, No, I don't want to coach college football. I'm going to take you back to Oh boy, was this was not a great day. Even though I had a great source on this and it was true. Mike Tomlin was talking about the USC rumors I had mentioned before Lincoln riling they had a wish list and I said, Mike Tomlin, you know, didn't put himself on the list. They're thinking, hey, let's swing for the fences. And I was told Mike Tomlin's name was on their wish list. Now they probably had fifteen names. Carson Palmer, USC quarterback, NFL quarterback, he came on the show and he talked about Mike Tomlin being mentioned as a possibility for USC. That's October of twenty twenty one, and here is Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 13: Hey, guys, I don't have time for that speculation. I mean, that's a joke to me. I got one of the best jobs in all of professional sport. To have any interest in coaching college football, That'll be the last time to address it, and not.

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Speaker 5: Only today, but moving forward. Never say never, but never.

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Speaker 13: Okay, anybody else got any questions about any college jobs? Is not a booster with a big enough blank check.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 13: Anybody asking Sean Payton about that, anybody asking Andy Reid about stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't presented to Mike Tomlin the way it should have been. It should have been, Hey, they have a wish list, your name is on it.

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Speaker 5: That's all.

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Speaker 2: But Carson Palmer, who is connected to USC, had the information that I had, and he brought it up, and then all of a sudden there's momentum there. But at no point that I say Mike Tomlin was interested in USC, and I'm not going to bring up that he's interested in Penn State. I'm sure Penn State would be interested in him. But if I'm Mike Tomlin, I don't want to go coach in college athletics is running you know, big names out of the sport basketball, football, I don't want to deal with this.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Has his salary cap, there's free agency period, there's gonna be the draft, there's gonna be Spring, there's gonna be fall.

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Speaker 5: I mean, all you do is.

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Speaker 2: Go out there and you coach. All right, that's it. You draft some players, you get your coaching staff, and then you go coach. Now, it's difficult. But and also if he went fifteen years, let's say he went was it twenty sixteen? If he went nine years without making the college football playoffs, then he's probably not keeping his job in college because they want it right now. They're gonna be paying a lot of money and that so the pressure would be, you've got to do something in three years, coach, because you don't get this. Hey, we don't fire people you're Mike Tomlin until we find somebody who could be maybe a better fit for us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Pauline, it.

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Speaker 6: Feels like this is obvious. But Mike Tomlin's the kind of guy, like you said yesterday, which would have a number of offers if he were no longer to the Steelers coach Bill Belichick didn't have offers. North Carolina was the fallback plan he'd be. He would definitely have been in the Atlanta Falcons coach or something like that if that were an option for.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he didn't want to go to college. He was hoping he got the Atlanta job because you don't want He didn't want to mess.

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Speaker 5: With all of the stuff.

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Speaker 2: By the way, North Carolina did okay on National Signing Day, And once again, this is potential and that's why I would always take transfers because I know that they've done something. These kids are seventeen eighteen years of age and you're going on potential that that's a five star recruit. And North Carolina did okay, USC did great. Penn State struggled, as you might expect, without a head coach. That comes back to me as a player, who's my head coach? Why would I go to a school that can't come up with a head coach? And how long has it been? Did Chris Fowler say fifty three days since they fired James Franklin? Did you have a plan in place other than the plan to fire him? Let's see raw in Maryland? Hey, Rob, what's on your mind today?

00:30:23
Speaker 14: Hey what's going on? Dan? First time in a long time, bro, But I had a pull question for you guys, would who would you rather continue the season without your best player or your head coach. And you know, like like the lank of the situation. I don't knock nine.

00:30:45
Speaker 15: I wouldn't knock anybody for going on to a better job, but for the simple fact that in every sport something like that should be handled after the season.

00:30:55
Speaker 2: So but well, there's only one position. If you say I don't have my quarterback. If you said I can have Patrick Mahomes or Andy Reid, I'm going to take Patrick Mahomes just about any situation. Now, I'm going to take my quarterback over my head coach. Now in college, it might be a little bit different there that I would probably lean towards the head coach more people that you're probably having an influence on or you need to. You probably coach more when you're in college than you do in the NFL as a head coach.

00:31:33
Speaker 6: Yeah, Pauling, that'd be a tough one for college. Like Kurt Signetti or Mendoza, the quarterback in Indiana, that's that's a coin flip. But Mendoza is the guy I don't think you could win without.

00:31:44
Speaker 2: So you would you would go into battle without your head coach instead of your quarter.

00:31:48
Speaker 6: Let's say Kurt Signetti had some type of situation for the next six weeks.

00:31:52
Speaker 5: He's on availed.

00:31:53
Speaker 2: Let's say he went to Penn State. Yeah, let's say he took to Penn State.

00:31:56
Speaker 6: I think the rest of his coaching staff could stick with his program and what they've done so far and get you to the promised Land.

00:32:03
Speaker 2: You think they stick that. Those coaching staffs that, like Lane's taken coaches from ls are old missed l s U.

00:32:11
Speaker 6: I think if Mendoz is out, you're out.

00:32:15
Speaker 5: These guys take their coaching staffs with them. Yes, Marvin in college, I think it depends on the school.

00:32:21
Speaker 3: Remember Ohio State Cardale Jones was the third string quarterback and he took them to the National Championship Game. At schools like Georgia and Alabama, you have three five star quarterbacks that are all ready to play. So I think that's the difference between those schools.

00:32:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great point. All right, we'll take a break. Play the day up next.

00:32:39
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00:32:51
Speaker 6: Oh my God.

00:32:54
Speaker 2: Of the day of the day. Check this out Yoka, chazz it up the left sideline, hands off behind him, over to Jamal Murray.

00:33:05
Speaker 5: Murray has them for three.

00:33:10
Speaker 1: That's a picnic piece for.

00:33:12
Speaker 5: Jamal Murray and Indiana.

00:33:14
Speaker 1: I'm a fleet of one twenty eight to one twelve.

00:33:19
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00:34:31
Speaker 6: Yes, Paul me I got a couple more for you. Guess which team had the most overall signings yesterday? College football program the most overall signings.

00:34:42
Speaker 5: Well, I mentioned USC had thirty five.

00:34:44
Speaker 6: USC's thirty five. They're third in the country. North Carolina had thirty nine commits, including thirteen four stars. The North Carolina recruiting classes ranked seventeenth in the country as of today. Seat in your West Virginia Mountaineers of forty five commitment whoa wow. A lot of three stars, but a lot of them. The three different college programs had four five stars signings. Oregon, Notre Dame and Alabama Notre Dame also had zero d commits during yesterday.

00:35:16
Speaker 2: And Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame head coach, was on the Today Show yesterday and this is a completely different audience. If you're going to go on and stump for we should be in the college football Playoff, this isn't the place to go unless your wife is going to tell her husband, who's on the college football playoff selection show, that that Marcus Freeman is really a nice man. You should put him in the playoffs. He's also on there because NBC and Notre Dame have a business relationship. And also there's the second season behind the scenes at Notre Dame football as well. Marcus Freeman was on there. And I don't know why Alabama jumped Notre Dame, but they did. And you know, the conspiracy theorist in me is like, Okay, what's the committee getting ready to do? Because it felt like Alabama, Yeah, they won the Iron Bowl, should they have jumped Notre Dame. I get it, you know it's a rivalry game, but okay, Auburn's not any good and yes, Notre Dame roughed up Stanford.

00:36:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, Pauline, I think that Alabama jumped ahead of Notre Dame. So if Alabama loses in a close one this weekend, Alabama could stay in the tournament. You can stay in the playoffs, just like you know, Notre Dame's on the ahead of Miami, so when they argue a week from now and neither played, you could keep it.

00:36:39
Speaker 5: Notre Dame where you are.

00:36:40
Speaker 2: It's almost like they didn't think Miami. Miami's not getting in. They're twelve. I think, right, yeah, they're not. Now I'm surprised that it's that tenuous with Notre Dame, but maybe the committee is something seeing something different. BYU and BYU beats Texas to I don't think Notre Dame's going to get in because they'll take BYU in Texas Tech.

00:37:05
Speaker 5: Mark and Dayton, Hey, Mark, what's on your mind today?

00:37:09
Speaker 8: Good morning, Dan, appreciate the opportunity talking to you. I just like to make a comment about Steve Sarkisian and his argument that he keeps trying to make for the University of Texas. I am a huge Ohio State fan, and I think he's arguing, well, he's trying to make his points on the positive side, but on the other side of the coin, there's one thing that sticks out. Don't lose to Florida. And I have historical perspective on this because two years in a row Ohio State had one loss. The first year was a clonker at Iowa, the second year was a real clonker at Purdue, and when it came time for the playoffs, the only argument you kept tearing everybody make against this was well, yeah, but you can't lose that game. So I mean, you know, if he doesn't lose to Florida, he's hit it too. And obviously I believe he's in the game.

00:37:57
Speaker 10: He's in the.

00:37:58
Speaker 2: Playoffs a fair points. Yeah, we talked about that. Then they get blown out against Georgia. So yes, you lose to Florida. And I'm going to give you credit for playing Ohio State at Ohio State, but I'm going to Dania losing against Florida.

00:38:15
Speaker 5: Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind?

00:38:19
Speaker 10: Adp, Thanks for taking my call. I just want to go back to the if you were a high school recrew and where you'd want to go. And Polly said that it's different than it was twenty years ago, and.

00:38:30
Speaker 8: I would say that it's not.

00:38:31
Speaker 10: It is as far as like the nil money and the compensation. But I think these players over the last twenty ish years, the Internet has really opened it up to where you can go to a smaller or lesser school and still be noticed. I think of like a Danny Woodhead who went to a small college in Nebraska, and if you would have gone to Nebraska, you probably would have just ended up being a third string cornerback in the background. So do you think that these kids should maybe go smaller and play a position that they want to play, or would you jump right into the big leagues.

00:39:05
Speaker 2: Well, this is where you have to have guidance, because in your mind you think you can play. You want to make sure you have reality attached to this. And here's another thing. And I brought this up because it was brought up to me by one of my college football sources that there's a bidding more. Maybe it's not going on anymore, but it was between two big time schools and it was for a high school tight end, and it was two million dollars. They're getting their money before they even get to college. That's what That's what a lot of these programs are doing. It's worth signing you up. You're part of our program until you're not and then whatever you know, the contract states, do you have to pay back money?

00:39:47
Speaker 5: Whatever? You know.

00:39:48
Speaker 2: However, it's kind of handed out yearly, quarterly, whatever it is. But this tight end is getting two million dollars, hasn't played a game for this university. That's what's happening. So it's not one of those where they go, all right, where's my money. A lot of these big time schools and big time players already are getting paid.

00:40:08
Speaker 5: And they're in high school. Yes, Marvin, Yeah, I remember.

00:40:11
Speaker 3: The biggest recruiting tool would be every single April when Nick Stable would go from table to table during the NFL Draft. And I'm not sure if is that still the case where it's like, hey, dabbos, Sweeney's everywhere during draft Day? Is that still the same thing?

00:40:25
Speaker 2: John Caliperry, he would do that at the NBA Draft every year. Yeah, he'd be like, oh that guy, Yeah, he's going first round. That guy's going first round.

00:40:34
Speaker 6: Yeah, PAULI, I've got the list of the top five recruits in the country and where they decided to go Vanderbilt, LSU, Houston, Miami, Maryland, Maryland, and Houston.

00:40:44
Speaker 5: That's surprising.

00:40:47
Speaker 6: And again, I don't think that stuff happens without Nil.

00:40:51
Speaker 2: Well, this is what was told to me a week ago. Oil money, tech money. Make sure you keep an eye on that oil money, tech money. And this was something that Alabama, you know, when Saban was trying to tell his boosters, hey, we got to keep up with Texas A and M. He was trying to keep up with oil money. Hey, you gotta have a treasure chest there. One hour in the books, two more to go. Kurt Warner will join us. Get us ready for the Cowboys and the Lions and Brian Windhorst. If the Bucks would trade Giannis, what could you possibly get in return? Hour two on the way, Fritzy Seaton, Marv Polly, yours truly,