Box Office Bombs That Became Classics + Movie Review: The King of Staten Island + More Summer Movie Delays

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In this episode, Movie Mike talks about movies that didn’t do so well at the box office when they were released but went on to be classics. These are all movies that either did not make a profit, or made a profit much smaller than everybody thought it would during its original theatrical release from The Wizard of Oz, Office Space, Shawshank Redemption and more! Mike also reviews the new Judd Apatow movie “The King of Staten Island” starring Pete Davidson. Plus another round of movie delays. 


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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to Movie Mix Movie Podcast. I am movie Mike on Twitter and Instagram at Mike Destro. That's d E. S. T r Oh. Got a good one for you guys this week where I am talking about box office bombs that went on to be classics. So this means movies that we all whole near and dear to our hearts and love. Yeah, we love these movies, but when they first came out, turns out they didn't do so well at the box office. And I'll explain why they didn't do so well and how they were able to kind of recoup their money after the losses and go on to be the movies that we know and love, or even go into detail what actually qualifies to the box office bombs. So it's actually a pretty cool eclectic list I got for you guys, so stick around and listen to that one. I'll also be reviewing the brand new jet Aptol movies starring Pete Davidson called The King of Staten Island. I posted on my Instagram story over the weekend that I was watching it had a bunch of messages wondering what I thought about it, because I think a bunch of people are kind of wondering is it worth the twenty bucks to rent? So I will let you know if it is in fact worth that money. And it was also bound to happen. I hate to do it, but we have another round of movies delayed because of the coronavirus and some pretty big ones on the list, and it's kind of starting to look like well, and it's kind of starting to look like, well, we get any kind of a summer blockbuster season looking pretty slim, So we'll get into all that again. Thanks to everybody for hanging out and coming and checking out the podcast every single Monday when I put brand new episodes of this up there on the feed. If you don't mind, hey, take a screenshot wherever you're listening to this episode right now and tag me in it in your Instagram story. 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These are all movies that you probably know and love, but what you may not know or may not remember, is they actually didn't perform well at the box office. So first of all, let's get into what a box office bomb is. So essentially, it's a movie that either made no profit or it was a profit that was much smaller than was anticipated. Because sometimes they put these really big budgets in these movies that are supposed to be big, instant Hollywood hits, but then when they get out of the theaters, they're like, oh, we only made that amount of money that's really not what we expecting. And then in other cases it's where they pumped so much money into a movie and then they got absolutely nothing in return. So those are just the biggest bombs that you can imagine. And what I'm talking about in this episode are not movies that were the biggest box office bombs of all time. I'm talking about movies that just did it perform well at the box office, But now that doesn't even really matter because they are so beloved, whether it was through DVD sales, VHS sales back in the day, or over time, they have just become classics that we know when are a part of our lives. But really they didn't do so well when they first came out. So I'll explain why some of these didn't do so well and how they ended up coming back and becoming classics. So first of all, let's go way back to the o G I'm talking about The Wizard of Oz, which came out in nineteen thirty nine, a long time ago, and not only is this a classic, it is essentially one of the most iconic movies of all time because everybody remembers this story, whether you've even seen it, or not. I knew refer this to this movie. I know what this movie is was about as a kid, even before I watched it. And it's iconic in the sense of you have that scene from it going to black and white to color, and then the story through Dorothy that it tells all these things are just really classic elements in the movie. But that movie didn't perform so well at the box office when it came out back in the day, when it first opened in nineteen thirty nine, it wasn't even able to recuperate the three million dollars that it what cost to make the movie. It ended up being a one point one million dollar loss for MGM, which is the studio that made the movie, and was considered a failure at the box office. And the thing about The Wizard of Oz and kind of what I see a lot of in box office bombs is that fantasy is a really hard genre to sell and to be successful because it can go one of two ways. Was fantasy, it's already putting out a kind of movie out there that's going to take some just adaptation for the audience to get. And if you don't get the story in a fantasy movie, it could easily be seen. Is just something that you're not interested in a lot of these big box office bombs that you see our movies that either spent so much in like special effects or this all this crazy stuff that they put into it to create this whole entire c g I world that they end up losing a lot of money. And when you're creating a story about fantasy, there was always that risk you run that maybe you spent too much on graphics and not enough on the story and people don't get it, and therefore you're setting yourself up for either to lose a lot of money or if it is a successful movie, you make a lot of money on the end. But fantasy is just a tricky genre altogether. But where a Wizard of Oz kind of made their money back is in all the red broadcasts of the movie being shown on TV, and after it started to be played year after year and ended up making money a lot that it wasn't able to make it the box office. It was made by bringing it to people's homes and actually being able to take it in and digest it and watch the movie for what it was. And then it's the movie that we know today that spa enough, many plays and all these other things that just a movie that we see as a classic, but you know, when it first came out, didn't do so well. And since we're back in the day right now, I'll keep it there and I'll talk about Willy Wonka and the Charcoal Factory, which is actually one of my favorite movies of all time. But when it came out back in one, it didn't really get received so well, mainly because it was made and seen as a kids movie, but it had a lot of dark humor, some even like some cynicism. It was just wasn't your typical kids movie that moms didn't really want their kids to see it, so it didn't do so well at the box office. It came in on the opening weekend, it made about a million dollars and ended up making around four million, but it cost three million to make, so it did make some money, but really not what they were expecting with what they put into this movie. So much so that Paramount Pictures is the one who originally made this movie. They sold the rights to Warner Brothers, and Warner Brothers got it for like a really great deal. They bought it for about five hundred thousand dollars and then they swooped in or you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna market this movie to TV stations. And as soon as they started doing that and started getting this played on TV, they made a lot of money. And not only that, they kept the rights and made the remake of Willie Wanka to the Chocolate Factory and still own the rights to Willie Wanka franchise to this day, like they have creative control over the story. All because Paramount thought it wasn't a great investment and decided to sell it off. So they were able to essentially get a three million dollar movie for about five dollars and now own a classic because it didn't do so well to box office when it came out back in the day. All right, let's now go kind of closer to the present time. A movie that I recently just watched for the first time because it's on Netflix right now is Scott Pilgrim Versus the World. Now. I heard a lot of buzz about this movie, and among my friend group, a lot of people liked this movie. But for some reason, I just thought it wasn't for me. And I think that's kind of what the problem that this movie had when it came out is it didn't really know it's audience because it's kind of a movie that transcends a bunch of genres. You have Michael Sarah who's in the movie, and it kind of plays this balance to being a comedy but then like being like almost the anime, video game, action drama, so it has all those things going for it. I think when it came out, it just really wasn't known how to market this movie. So I think for the mainstream it really wasn't seen as having like a clear like Okay, this is what this movie is about. I think it was kind of like marketed as like a superhero kind of comedy movie. But really, what's I like about this movie is that it is so different, and it's so weird and quirky and has this personality that within about ten minutes you're like, oh, this is something like I've never seen before. So the movie cost about sixty million to make, but it only made about forty seven million dollars in the box office, so it is kind of a flop when you think about it in those terms. But it's a movie that I know a lot of people say it's one of their favorite movies, and I think it's a lot of because it is so different and it's kind of in his own genre. But not only that, it has like a really great cast that when you go and look at it, you're like, holy crap. Chris Evans is in this movie, Albredy Plausa is in this movie, and Kendrick is in this movie. There's all these people in this movie, like a very early point in their career, and you watch it and you're like, holy crap, this is like a time capsule for all these great actors, and it's really cool, unique movie. So I ended up really enjoying it and liking a lot more than I thought I was. I know, I'm ten years late on this one, but for me, I'm a big comic book movie fan, and this one kind of not really in that world, but kind of a steps to the side of that where it took like almost like video games and made it into a great movie and brought all this action into it in quirkiness that I ended up really enjoying. And I can see why it's such a cult classic now. So if you're into that kind of superhero sci fi genre, and you haven't seen Scott Pilgrim Versus the World, I suggest checking it out right now on Netflix. All right, here's one from my childhood and maybe years two. So every year when Halloween rolls around, I love that because I love a good horror movie, but not only that, I just like the regular, happy, fun Halloween movies, and I think when embodies that to a t. I'm talking about hocus Pocus. Now, when it came out, it was seen as a flop and didn't do so well. But I think I had a lot of things going against it when it came out. So when this movie first came out, it didn't do so well at the box office, and it's opening weekend it only made about eight million dollars. And all in all, this movie cost twenty eight million dollars to make, so that opening weekend you're not really making your money back. But over its course, it ended up making about thirty nine million. But what I think this one had going against it was that it was released on the very same day as Free Willie. Now, back in the nineties, one of the biggest movies I remember was Free Willie. Everybody talking about that movie. So when you go up against something like that, And I mean it came out in the summer, so it was really targeted as you know, a summer kids movie to get those kids in the theaters, and then later once Halloween rolled around, it would be ready to you know, buy on VHS at the time, which is kind of when it started to make its money back. But now really it's making its money by being shown every single year around Halloween. And for me, it's not really Halloween without watching this movie on TV. And it's one you've probably seen more than once without even trying. So of course you've got to call it a Halloween classics, but just know that when it first came out, it really wasn't even seen as a success. All right, Let's keep it in the nineties with a movie called Office Space, a classic cult comedy when it came out back in the nineties and one that I know a lot of people say is their favorite movie of all time. Written and directed by Mike Judge, who was one of my favorite people. He also did King of the Hill, Idiocracy, he did Beavis and butt Head. I actually got a chance one time to go see him speak, and I thought it was amazing. I liked my Judges humor because while it's seen has come almost like very like symboled down like comedy. I think it's really smart. Like I know, Beavis and butt Head probably isn't the most like intellectual thing you can watch, but I find his comedy just has like this kind of edge to it that it does take a lot of creativity and it just is it does take some thought to be that juvenile sometimes, and that's what I like about his work. And I think Office Space is probably his best movie because it kind of combines that. But unfortunately it was seen at the box office disappointment when it cost ten million dollars to make and only made about twelve point two million dollars at the box office and opening weekend and landed and about the eighth slot, which isn't great because at the time he was really only known for his animated stuff Bavius and But Had To America just came out. But this was his first live action comedy and the first real depiction of I ever saw of a comedy taking place in like an office workspace, at least is what I remember growing up. But now you see this movie everywhere if you're on the internet at all, you've probably seen an Office Space meme without realizing it. You've maybe even seen it parody in like TV shows like Family Guy. I think it's a very funny movie. It's a very quotable movie, and a movie you go back and realize, whoa Jennifer Aniston did something else in the nineties that wasn't Friends. So while it didn't do so great at the box office, it was able to make a lot of money what it came out of VHS and back in the day when you went to Blockbusters to buy the actual VHS tape or rent it, that's where it kind of was like, Okay, it's a movie I'll go see and watch at my house. Instead, we're going to see it in theaters. And then Comedy Central once it came around, they played this. I felt like every single day you would turn on Comedy Centro and there would be Office Base. I think it's a great movie and one that will still make me laugh today. This next one is pretty surprising, not only because it went on to win and be nominated for so many awards, but when it came out was just seen as not a great success. But I feel now makes the list. It's probably one of the greatest movies of the nineties, but it came out in a year where it was like maybe one of the greatest movie years of all time, where you have like Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction, The Lon King, and Here Comes Shawshank Redemption, which went on to receive a bunch of Academy Awards, didn't win for Best Picture, but overall had seven Oscar nominations and became the most rented film of So that's a bunch of things going for it. What it didn't have, though, was the cloud at the box office, because it cost million dollars to make and only made about eight million dollars in its entire run, so not very great. The opening weekend only made close to a million, didn't even cross that million dollar marks, so kind of flopped out of the gate. But it had so many great reviews and so many just positive things said about the movie that it was kind of eclipse that it came out and debuted at number nine, behind a Rosie O'Donnell comedy at the Dime. And I think what's kind of surprising about this is that we know it as the kind of movie that we maybe sometimes associate Morgan Freeman with and just overall Seen is one of the greatest movies. But a lot of the times, a lot of these movies that win for Best Picture or earned such high critical praise, they often don't perform so well at the box office. And I think the Oscars get you know, kind of criticized a lot for this every year because they put in movies to the Best Picture nomination that a lot of people sometimes haven't seen, and you look at their box office numbers and you're like, whoa, they made like a s exteenth of what the Avengers me. So sometimes it is surprising to see such a highly praised movie just not do so well as a box office And sometimes you wonder why Best Picture nominees are in the Best Picture category when they're not earning as much money as some of these big movies that a lot of people are actually going to see. In Love, I think when it comes down to it, with the Best Picture, you know, category, they're trying to find movies that are novel in or doing something that no one else has done before. So that kind of holds true to that. But I don't know, maybe sometimes you have to consider and take into consideration, like did this movie even do so well at the box office, Like, I wonder if they'll ever add that kind of stipulation to the Best Picture nomination. I don't think they'll do it right now, because even with Parasite that just won this year, that didn't do so great at the box office. But I think once it came out and people actually watched it and gave it a chance, and they kind of saw, huh, maybe I should have watched it in theaters. Another big cult classic that didn't do so well at the box office was one that was probably in dorm rooms of America all across the country. Back in movie starring Brad Pitt and Edward Norton talking about Flight Club, which is a great movie. And I think the problem with this movie it was really hard for them to market this one. So the movie had a sixty three million dollar budget but only may thirty seven million dollars in the course um in theatrical release. And with this movie, it's so kind of dark, twisted and sinister that you wonder how you sell this movie, Like how do you make a trailer and how do you advertise this movie to people? Like Okay, um, well it's this really weird guy who has this voice in his head and he starts a flight club. All right, come watch our movie. And even with the star power like Brad Pitt and Edward Norton, didn't really have any return when he came out into the theater. So the director was so determined to kind of make this movie a hit that what he ended up doing was putting in a lot of money into the home release of this movie. So he like really strategized how he was going to package this DVD. So they put it out. They put the director's commentary on this thing, and he kind of explained and shed light to the film of what it was actually trying to say in this movie and what it was about. And that ended up doing a lot for this movie, and it went on to be one of the highest selling DVDs for Fox when it came out. Again. This is a really big movie that I feel kind of fitting with a fight club scenario of not being able to know how to market the movie. It's Days and Confused that came out and the movie only made about a million dollar profit when it came out back in the day, and Universal when they put out the movie again, like Fox, they struggled with the marketing struggles because here you have essentially like a stoner coming of age movie with these you know, really raunchy sex scenes and this humor that you don't really know what the audience is for this one. So that's what led days to confused to kind of be a flop when it came out. But now we know it as the movie that pretty much put Mitthew McConaughey on the map. And like Fight Club, I think once this movie came out on VHS, it was like one of those movies that you would tell your friends about. And I think even for me, it was a movie that existed as a VHS that was just passed around from my friend group to friend group, and that's how I first watched it. I remember taking the tabe and putting it in the BCR and being like, whoa, this is like a crazy story at least people hanging out and partying. But I could see how there's something really huge and cinematic about it, like you would go to a movie theater and tell people to go see it. But in your early teenage years, it's scene as a movie like oh man, that's such a great movie, and gives us one of the most iconic movie lines from Matthew McConaughey, which is actually the first ever words that he said on film. Like, I heard this interview with him when he was talking about, you know, how he got that part where he wasn't even an actor yet, he was just kind of hanging out and doing this other random work back in Austin, Texas, got the part, and then he was trying to put himself in the space of this character and the line wasn't even written in the movie. So I actually found this clip, but Matthew McConaughey talking about that and how this iconic line came to be about to shoot the scene, and it's all improvisers, not a line, not a line written. Right, Who's my man? Who's waters? And Who's Waters? And I said what am I about? I said, well, I'm about my car. And I said, man, I'm in my seventies chavel we got one. I said, I'm about rock and roll. I said, well, I got ted NWS just trangle hold on the eight track. I got too. Then I said I'm about getting high and I said, well, Slater's riding shotgun. He's always got one rolled up, I got three. I'm also back picking up chicks and I look up and I go, well, there she is. That'd be the fourth. I got three out of four. Alright, alright, alright, so there you go. Those are some box office bombs that went on to be classics. If you have any others to add, just hit me up on Twitter or Instagram at Mike Destro. Alright, movie review time. Now, it's actually a brand new movie. Look at that. I didn't have to go through the theaters to watch it. It was right there on demand for a whopping twenty dollars and it's called The King of Staten Island, directed by Jedd Apatow, starring Pete Davidson. Now, I'm a pretty big Pete Davidson fan. I'd like this comedy. I like him on Saturday Night Live, and I've kind of been interested to see how he's how his whole personality is going to translate into movies. And he did a movie that came out last year that I was interested in, so I'm kind of following him and I was excited for this one. So let's figure it out. Is it worth spending the twenty dollars to watch this at home. Before I get into my review, here's a little bit of the King of Staten Islands. What are those numbers on your arm? Oh that's the date my dad died. He was a fireman, done to fire seventeen years ago. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Don't think it's fine. He's there now, your dad, all right. So let's get into this review. A lot to unpack here. So I was excited for this one, like I said earlier, and I think I was excited for it for a couple of reasons. One because we haven't had anything new in a while. And I was glad that they stuck to putting this one out on demand. It's supposed to kind of pushing back the release date to get it in theaters. I saw some stuff that jud Epic I was saying interviews before the movie came out, and he's basically saying like, it's kind of a movie that everybody needs right now in this kind of pandemic quarantine world or something you can just sit on your couch and watch. So he didn't feel like there was any need to delay the released to you know, put it out in theaters. And he even said which he kind of defends his whole like his movie off thinking criticized for being too long, like you could always cut out maybe forty to twenty minutes of his movies, and he's like, well, it's maybe you could pause and then come back to is what he says. I also kind of think that was him going on to defense a little bit, because he's like, man, people are gonna slam me again for a movie being too long. But anyway, I just had to point it out that this movie is two hours and seventeen minutes, which I feel is a long time for a comedy. And I don't like to always criticize movies by saying they're too long, but I just feel like if you can't hold somebody's attention, and if at any point in a movie you're like looking how much is left in it, I think it takes a little bit away. So first of all, that that was my kind of when I finished watching it, is how I felt. But going into it, let's just talk about what the movie is about. So what they semi autobiographical story about Pete Davidson's alive. His dad was a firefighter and at on nine eleven, and this movie kind of echoes that it's his character in the movie whose dad also died as a firefighter, and he's kind of now as a twenty four year old, has never really been able to move past that because he kind of grew up knowing how awesome his dad was and then had him taken away from him, and he's been struggling with that. He's kind of hasn't really gone a lot of places. He's still living with his mom and essentially trying to be a tattoo artist but doesn't even have a job at the beginning of the movie, and that's kind of where the movie stays. It's him hanging out with his friends just trying to tattoo people and then getting into this quick little ends up getting into a little bit of trouble where he gets his dad who gets mad at him, and that dad ends up being also a firefighter who ends up meeting his mom and then they too get together. In the movie kind of takes away from there of like, oh, you're trying to replace my dad with another guy who's also a firefighter, and the whole movie is kind of him struggling with that relationship forming and also of him trying to get his life together So, first of all, I don't feel like this movie was intended to be a straight up comedy. I think Jedd Apatow kind of said that is he was trying to make a dramatic movie, kind of his most serious movie to date. But I think anything Jeddappatow does, it's kind of going to be seen and packaged as a comedy. So that's when kind of when you see the trailer, that's the feeling you get for it. So I think it did have some good last especially in the first fifteen to twenty minutes. You get those lass and you get those jokes that kind of you feel like Jedd Apatow is a writer, Pete Davidson as a writer on it. You kind of feel their humor in that, and then it kind of gets into this, I feel like, kind of convoluted story where it kind of loses what the movie is about, because while it's about Pete Davidson and his struggles of not having his dad around and now having this new father figure in his life, it kind of goes in all different kinds of directions with him and its love life, him with his friends, and then him trying to be his own person and have his own job and kind of find his identity in that sense. I just think it gets lost in all that because it never really follows like any kind of direction, And there's some parts of the movie that exists for no other reason than existing, which is how I feel that Jetapata just puts too much into his movies. There's like too much scenes of like things that don't really matter, and I feel it kind of had a loss in like the middle to where it kind of didn't even fit the rest of the movie, like right in the middle of it. It just kind of goes into all these directions and it comes kind of back to that story of him and Bill Burr's character in the movie, who's playing the guy dating his mom. It kind of goes away from that. But I get what Jeapata is trying to say in this movie is trying to be a movie that deals with loss and deals with grief and deals with that idea of losing somebody. And don't get me wrong, I get that has some really great emotional moments worth that of Pete Davidson kind of getting over and accepting his father's death and also like meeting some of the people who knew him and getting stories out of them, Like I think that part of the movie was actually pretty good, but it takes a long time to get there, and it gets lost so many times before you even get to feeling anything that by the time you do get to that kind of nice moment where like, oh, I actually kind of like this movie, you think it's about to end, and then there's still like another thirty forty minutes left of it. So at any moment that it gets you know, personal and actually like in depth to the characters, it's lost in all other directions because you don't really care at some points to follow along. That's how I felt watching it. So by no means am I saying this is even a bad movie. It's very i'd say mediocre, like middle of the Path, Like you're not gonna watched this and be like this is terrible. Why am I watching this? But you're also just gonna kind of watch just enough to see what happens, but you almost don't even care about the characters in it. And the other thing I kind of just worry or wonder about Pete Davidson is if he's gonna get kind of typecast a little bit because he wasn't. Another movie that I just watched recently called Big Time Adolescence, and I actually really like that movie, probably enjoyed it more than I did this one. But I also felt like he was playing the exact same character again, and I don't know, maybe he's just looking for that right role that that's kind of him, which I get. It's you know, when you play and your act as a different character, you're gonna bring out a lot of who you are. But I feel like he's just that same exact person that you see on SNL that he is in this movie that he wasn't the other movie. Like, I like him as an actor. I think he's funny. I think he's a great comedian, but I just don't know if he's going to ever develop into being anything else but playing that same kind of twenty four, twenty five year old stoner kid who can't get his life together, Like is that really all he's gonna do in movies? And I like the guy, I'd like to see him do a little bit more. And I think maybe that's why I was just a little let down about this movie, because I was looking for him to kind of, you know, take that step up into being more of a leading man, a leading comedic role actor type person, and I just don't think he's quite there yet. I don't know even know if he was like ready for to start in a Jet Appatel movie at this point in his career. So maybe it was a little bit also that I had high house going into this one and was a little bit let down. And also I was just really hoping that it wasn't going to be another kind of long drawn out Jet Apptel movie. I don't know, maybe it's more enjoyable, like if you watch it like he said, you know, watch half and then watch another half later. But I wanted to set down and you know, consume it like I would in the movie theaters, and that's kind of the experience I went into taking this one in and I felt like if I would have watched it in theaters, I would have left feeling the same way. So I would give it. Oh man, it's it's so close to crossing that three mark because I don't feel it's bad, but I have to give it two and a half out of five tattoos. I just don't feel at any point it had my full attention, And even though I got some decent laughs out of it. In the beginning, I felt it could have been just a lot stronger and a lot more interesting with even just forty minutes cut out, Like I think, straight up this would have stuck to that hour and a half hour forty kind of comedic kind of pacing. I think it would have been a lot better movie. And I'm no director, but but as if you were, I just felt like it didn't have enough story to be that long, A little long and unjustified for me. Is it worth the twenty I would have to say no. I think if I had to price it, i'd give it a solid ten bucks. And that's because me and my girlfriend watched it, so it's essentially I was paying five bucks eats. So I think twenty bucks is a little high, maybe way till you can read it for like the five dollar fee. It's nothing I'm dying to watch again or really tell anybody else to be like, oh, you got to see this movie. So that's where I stand on it not worth the twenty bucks. Alright, So we have another big round of movie delays, which isn't surprising. Movie theaters are really just kind of starting to slowly open up around the country and even in Canada a little bit. But it's of course with safety precautions and social distancing guides inside the theater. And you know, some theaters are requiring people to wear a mask, others are not, which is kind of a weird thing because when you go into a movie theater, you can be wearing the mask, but a glorious if you're gonna buy snacks and stuff, you're gonna take it off at some point. So I don't know if they've thought of that the whole way through. And also there's just a bunch of other kind of things that come along, not only with people being in the theaters again, but how they're making movies right now. There's stuff coming out now about there's gonna be different ways that, you know, how close actors can be, Like can they kiss still on screen? Can big action fight sequence still still happen with all those people filming? So I think that's gonna be a lot of a different thing to you know, see and and take into consideration when the main new movies like a bunch of that stuff, it's gonna just be CD. I now how all that stuff is gonna work. But I think when we're seeing these delays happen. Now we're you know, kind of get upset a little bit about the movies we're you know, looking forward to being pushed back further and further. But it's also pushing back movies that were scheduled to start filming getting pushed back further into like two which that's a long way, is the way, And then you're thinking, well, would they even be able to make those movies the same way now with all these new restrictions. So it's gonna be a big domino effect here. So the other movies they got pushed back, The animated live action hybrid Tom and Jerry movie got pushed back from December twenty three to March of next year. So I think it will be interesting to see how all these pieces start to work together as far as getting people back into the theaters. And then when they do start to get people back in and they're starting to put out these new movies, how that's going to reflect box office numbers which are pretty much non existent right now. Like they're waiting until they can have more people in the theaters to put out these big blogbusher movies. But when they put them out or we all got to feel safe enough to go to the theater to hit those numbers they're expecting, will they pull them? Like what's gonna happen with that? And then I'm also starting to wonder about, you know, Oscar season when that rolls back around, like what movies will qualify? And then will there really be like a best of list? After this year? I feel like everything just so pushed back and moved over the place, like will there really be the best picture contender? Here? Is going to be like an Asteria mark if those movies end are really coming out. I'm also kind of interested to see how well The King of Statan Island will do with streaming numbers and if that will kind of wake anybody up to being like, okay, maybe it's streaming of valuable things we thought we was going to be. I think all these things will kind of play into how movie theaters and movie studios react moving forward word, I think the last movie we need to kind of watch the release date will really be important is Disney's Move On. Like if that actually comes out on July it's supposed to and everything's cool, I think we'll see everything kind of slowly ramp up and even move up after that, but until then, I think we're just gonna have to wait and see what happens with new movies and theaters. All right, and that's the episode for this week. I hope you guys enjoyed that. If you don't mind tagged me on Instagram story that you listen to the very end and let me know what you thought about the episode and whether you're thinking about watching The King of Staten Island now or not. My Instagram shadow of the Week goes to at Katie see y R, who says you'd been listening to the podcast getting caught up. So thanks Katie, Thanks to everybody for listening, thanks for being part of the podcast. I will talk to you guys next week. I have a great rest of your week. Later

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