2025-08-13- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: Comedy Off Byway.

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Speaker 3: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 2: Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone.

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Speaker 5: It is Kentucky Sports Radio, Wednesday, August the thirteenth.

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Speaker 4: I am Matt Jones. Here.

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Speaker 5: We are thirteen days away from opening Ksbar. We are sixteen days is at sixteen nineteen days No seventeen days from kickoff to College Kentucky's college football season. Matt Jones, Drew Franklin, Shannon the Dude. We were sitting in here by the way. We're sponsored by Clark's Puppet Shop. If the eight five nine eight twenty two eighty seven, a Vision Auto glass text machine seven seven two seven four five two five four.

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Speaker 4: This edition sponsored by the TJ. Smith Office.

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Speaker 5: You call TJ, I'll make them pay the just to give you a little behind the scenes. Everyone here is trying to make uh it look this studio look presentable for the NFL podcast, and it's it's I don't know.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I don't know who lit this room.

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Speaker 5: This loom room was lit by somebody who's never been on a television screen at any point.

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Speaker 4: They have the lights shin and right above our head.

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Speaker 2: They look to be white lights too, like.

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Speaker 5: That and they are like literally they they they make everyone's face look think about the worst version of yourself in the mirror. This seems to be designed to look like that. You know when TV they teach you keep the light in front of you, facing you a little bit, like to make you flush. This is over our head behind us. We look like we're dead. And this was designed.

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Speaker 4: This isn't even that old. This was designed like this is the new studio. I do like that.

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Speaker 6: iHeart is putting more into us looking good than me and you put into ourselves actually looking good.

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Speaker 4: What are you talking about moisturizer?

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Speaker 6: I too, I got a little line, but I mean they're really working hard, and.

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Speaker 5: They're trying to fix what was the worst lip. I mean, I'm not gonna say which one, but everybody knows there's a TV station in town that is one notch below the others.

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Speaker 4: They're trying.

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Speaker 5: They try like Ricky Steamboat. They try really hard. They do the best they can all. One thing that would help them is if they would like the thing correctly, same thing here. This is terrible, but they're trying to fix it. Mario's Mario and Nathan and Billy. They've got things hanging everywhere. But we really just need to tear this place down and start over.

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Speaker 4: Don't you think this brand new building in downtown, like I mean, there's Shannon. There's five TVs in here.

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Speaker 5: Only one is even hooked up to it the enter like to cable or like. Four of these TVs have never been turned off.

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Speaker 2: See a black screen behind you right now, right behind the herd.

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Speaker 5: This thing can't get any channel, so it just reflects light.

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Speaker 4: It's just terrible. I've only seen this Roku screensaver fish tank.

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Speaker 5: The only thing that's ever on this table is Pat McAfee or that or that fish.

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Speaker 4: I know these fish, I know their names. I know when they bounce off.

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Speaker 5: The corners signed this thing failed architecture school. Hopefully it gets fixed in the next two weeks. Uh, we got We have a lot to talk about. Let's start first before I get to the big news. Alan Cutler said you could kiss his ass, Shannon, and I think you, I think you have to respond to that because you're being called out to a fight by seventy one year old man.

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Speaker 2: Nor do I care.

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Speaker 3: I'm currently suffering from a failure to give a damn about anything that Alan Cutler says.

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Speaker 2: Now he said, he's.

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Speaker 4: Said that you could kiss his his a.

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Speaker 2: He's getting really feisty. I mean, I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Again, I don't care what Adam Allen, Adam Allen Adamler says.

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 5: I tried to listen to his thing. I listened to a couple of minutes at all I heard he was saying that you were the worst and Drew was the best.

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Speaker 6: And then someone someone texted me and says, Shannon, you can kiss my ass. Drew I like you tremendously in one breath. That's what he says.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that he's got two listeners.

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Speaker 4: And I had heard the first couple of minutes.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, I thought that was funny and I wanted you to to be more, to be upset.

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Speaker 4: I can tell I can see your face. You are upset.

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Speaker 2: I'm not upset.

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Speaker 4: You might see it at an event, sou maybe a game. Maybe you too, a five opening a KOs bar, he'll talk too much. Well, we couldnt do that.

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Speaker 5: I feel like when Captain Sountan threatened me at that game, thought I was gonna have to get between you two.

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Speaker 4: He walked up to me at the Ducky Loan a football.

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Speaker 5: Game and he was like, so do you want a piece? And I was like a pie? I don't know, but you know, then I walked away.

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Speaker 3: And it's so significant to say something bad about me that I might care.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'll tell Kirk Herbstream to give you a message.

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Speaker 5: All right, So let's start with what I mean, I think is the most important piece of news. It broke during the show yesterday, and it's that UK and JMI have signed a fifteen year deal for four hundred and sixty five million dollars. Just start right there. That's a lot of money. And that's thirty point three million dollars or no, thirty thirty one million dollars a year. So that's a lot of money, you know. I I, as one person explained to me, this takes care of our rev share. And so as you're sitting here in your balancing the pros and the cons, start with the pro The revshare is now paid for. By the way, what I would say is when I start hearing UK raise other prices because of the rev share, I.

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Speaker 4: Want you to remember that. One of the things that was explained to.

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Speaker 5: Me yesterday is the revshare is now paid for. So as costs of other things go up, remember the rev share is paid for by this just something to think about, that's good. But I do think this is going to be an extremely important change for the future of UK sports. And I sort of spent the last twenty four hours kind of in my mind weighing the pros and the cons, and I tend to come out of it pessimistic. Not like, not that I think the apocalypse is coming, not that I think it's the worst thing ever, but I'm pessimistic. And I will explain to you why I'm pessimistic. Now, you can be pessimistic and it still things can be good. I was pessimistic stick about Mitch Barnhart leading us into the Annio era, and while it was a slow start, I think he finished pretty well. But I'm pessimistic about this for a number of reasons. But let me first explain to you what has happened. So JMI is now in charge of two important things. One is they are now in charge of doing the quote unquote contracts for the athletes.

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Speaker 4: Now, what does that mean?

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Speaker 5: Of the twenty point six million dollars, every coach will be given a certain amount of money that they are able to divvy up.

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Speaker 4: Let's say, so let's say that.

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Speaker 5: Mark Stoops is told you will have fifteen million dollars Mark Stoops and the people on his staff, and that will include I think it includes like a football. GM decide how they're going to spend that fifteen million dollars. You know, it's up to them and they can decide who's worth what. But let's say they decide Drew Franklin is worth one million dollars. Drew Fanklin may be demanding two million dollars. That's where JMI will come in and have to negotiate that other million. As a practical phase, I would just say to people, this will come up with every good player. I actually think this JMI think is going to be bigger for basketball than football because it will be the basketball players that will demand more money than what the REV share gives.

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Speaker 4: Does that make sense.

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Speaker 5: I think most football players what they get in the REV share will be their primary source of money for basketball. So I kind of see JMI as now being like eighty percent of.

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Speaker 4: A basketball GM. By the way, that's what Club Blue was. Club Blue did most.

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Speaker 5: Of their work in basketball. They did a little football, but it was mostly basketball. So I think what JMI is going to be doing is mostly basketball, which is why I'm a little nervous.

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Speaker 4: So that's part one of their jobs.

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Speaker 5: The second part of their job is when they get these guys, let's say they need a million dollars, they're gonna have to co come up with.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: I was very worried yesterday that JMI was essentially locking these players in that if you signed with UK you couldn't do your own outside deals. I'm told that's not the case, so that makes me feel better. That was a big concern. That was my big concern. One of my big concerns. That makes me feel better. There will still be some athletes who will have the ability to do their own thing. That's good, but it's still gonna ultimately be jmi's responsibilities to negotiate the deals and to go and find the money.

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Speaker 4: Here's why that concerns me.

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Speaker 5: And this is hard for me to talk about because JMI works with our station. I come on after the postgame show. But if you go through history here, JMI in UK have a relationship that is very unique. JMI only does the media rights for three major schools, Kentucky, Notre Dame in UCLA. They have a lot of small schools, but they're the only ones they do the major schools for. They work with a couple of other schools that name in their stadiums and stuff, but when it comes to being the primary media sponsor for a college, it's just UK Notre.

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Speaker 4: Dame in UCLA.

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Speaker 5: Guess how many schools JMI is taking on the role of being the Nile Group four.

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Speaker 4: None. We're the only one. We're the only one. We are the only.

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Speaker 5: School in the country that will have a relationship like this with JMI. Is that gonna work? We'll see how many schools are doing this period well? Lear Field, that's who does the broadcasting for Louisville. They have a lot of schools. They've got like fifty How many schools are they doing it for? Three Georgia, Ohio State and Texas. Those are pretty good schools. Learfield is taking on this role. JMI is with those schools. But what worries me is A. Lear Field's good and B those schools are still keeping their private collectives. We are the only school that I can find who is getting rid of their private collective and giving it all to one company. And we're giving it to one company who doesn't have any other schools. So the caller who worried, well, what if it's UK or UCLA, how do they decide?

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Speaker 4: UCLA is still doing their own thing. They're not letting jm I do it. So that's a lot of faith in one company, wouldn't you agree? Oh yeah, let's say it was the best company in the world. That's a lot of faith.

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Speaker 5: I have had a complaint for a long time. If you've listened to the show, you know it's not unique. I've had a complaint that I don't think jm I is up to date on everything. All you gotta do is listen to the postgame show. You know privately they ban Drew from coming on the field. They didn't credential, like they were a big part of Mario not getting credential. These are little things about KSR. But how do you look at today's modern world and go the social media creator for the biggest website shouldn't have a media credential. You do it by being behind the times, right, I worry is this company that still sends us cease and desist letters for putting on KSR, UK plays old miss and using the UK logo? Is this the company that's gonna understand modern in ale.

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Speaker 4: Deals I worry about.

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Speaker 5: We travel to all kinds of schools across the country. Let me be very clear about this, and I said this to someone at UK yesterday, so I'm not talking out of school.

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Speaker 4: UK, of all the schools I've visited in the major.

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Speaker 5: Conferences, is more behind on modern media dealing with modern media than any other school that we deal with. When it comes to media relations, UK gives less access to us than even the schools that were the road team for I can go to Tennessee and I can go to Louisville and they'll give me more access than when I'm in Reperena.

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Speaker 4: Now, why should you care about that?

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Speaker 5: You probably shouldn't, except the people that were making those decisions are now making all the decisions. As I said on social media, UK Athletics is now JMI and JMI is now UK Athletics. Will it work?

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Speaker 4: I hope.

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Speaker 5: So I wrote the CEO or the CEO of JMI and I said, hey, would you like to talk this week? She said yes, So I will do that and I will recommend what I think and she can feel free to ignore.

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Speaker 4: It or whatever.

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Speaker 5: But I am concerned because the thing that has always been the best to me about UK sports is obviously the games. But we've been pretty good at the business side of things, wouldn't you agree, And in this Nile era by having the people that they were doing the contracts before, I think we had pretty smart people doing it. The weakness has always been to me, the modernization to the new world of media. Well, now the people that were in charge of that are in charge of everything, and that worries me.

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Speaker 4: Is it fixable?

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Speaker 7: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Are there smart people there, Sure are there nice people there? Sure?

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Speaker 5: But we are giving what I think is the hardest thing for a basketball and football program to do recruit players. That's the hardest thing to do. We are now essentially turning a huge part of that over to a private company, and.

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Speaker 4: It worries me.

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Speaker 5: It would worry me if I was a lear Field school, and it probably worries them too because they're still keeping their private collectives.

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Speaker 4: But we now have no fallback plan.

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Speaker 5: If JMI is not good, we're not gonna get players.

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Speaker 4: If they are, maybe it still will work.

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Speaker 5: I can tell you I had multiple people write me from other schools and go, you should be a little worried about this. I'm talking coaches from like other SEC schools. I think gets nerve wracking. Now they're gonna get a ton of money. I'm gonna guess uk is gonna get more money from their local media deal than probably any school in the country.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 5: Some of the worries we've had about are we gonna have the revenue to compete? That's probably taken care of, so that's good. But are we gonna be able to be in a world where the rules drew can change overnight? We are locked into a fifteen year deal with JMI, and the one thing I've always worried about them.

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Speaker 4: Is are they modern?

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Speaker 5: That's where I am on it. That's my concern. That's my I don't wanna say frustration, but that's my worry is. And I'll finish with this. I use this example. This is just in the realm of media. But listen to the example I'm using and then move.

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Speaker 4: It to recruiting.

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Speaker 5: The Kentucky Derby this year invited fifty TikTok influencers to come and have all access to the Derby.

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Speaker 4: Why did they do it? Because it's the future, new and younger audience.

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Speaker 5: Drew and I are being invited to go to the super Bowl, the NFL Playoffs, the combine, all the draft, all of that with access from the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Right schools like an Old Miss, etc.

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Speaker 5: Their media is allowed to go to practice. What happens at Kentucky right now, we couldn't get Mario a credential. Drew has to stand outside instead of being on rupp Arena. No media gets to see anything. I look at how these other schools are adapting to the modernization of the world, and I think UK is far behind. Now that's gonna be everything. It's not just gonna be media. It's gonna be recruiting. It's gonna be fan interaction, it's gonna be tickets. I don't know how you can't be a little bit nervous about that. Eight five, nine, twenty two eighty seven. Will take a break, be right back. It's kiss are.

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Speaker 4: Is that what you say? To Alan?

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Speaker 2: That's right?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 2: Fact to kiss? Says is it filter or no filter involved? A filter?

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Speaker 5: At least, I think I'll let you have a filter. We don't need, we don't need any diseases being passed, passed back and forth. One person rides Matt, Okay, A lot of that sounds bad. Most positive thing the money. It's a lot of money, huge, a lot of money. Probably takes away one of the if not the biggest concern going into the annil are, which is do you have the money to compete? UK now has the money to compete. At least they have the rev share portion. Whether they have the donor will wait and see. But they have the revshare portion, so that's a positive. Another person says, Matt, it sounds like your relationship with UK is broken. They're done with KSR. I don't think that's necessarily true. My relations our relationship with UK has been good. Our relationship with JMI has been bad. UK has been pretty good to us over the years, but they on the media side they had to do what JMI said, and that has generally been bad. I'm hoping it's better. I'm glad they're gonna meet with me. But it's not about us. I'm just using us as an example to show you problems that I think are going to happen with things that have nothing to do with us. So let me just give you one theoretical problem. And I promise I'm gonna let Drew talk, because Drew has set there silent. No, I'm recruiting Mario Okay, for basketball, let's say that. And it's down to Kentucky and Yukon. Yukon has come in and said, we are going to give you three and a half million dollars of our refshare money because we can do that because we ain't spending any money on football. And Kentucky comes in and they just can't give three and a half, but they can give two and say we'll get you the other one and a half through inile deals.

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Speaker 4: Okay, JMI goes out.

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Speaker 5: JMI is only allowed to negotiate deals with UK official partners?

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Speaker 4: How much can you ask.

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Speaker 5: Of Drake's and Paul miller Ford At some point though, they're not going to be able to keep doing it. And if we don't have a private nil group a collective to do it, what's gonna happen. We're probably gonna lose Mario right because we're making it to the where only one entity can officially do it and they can only work with the partners they have.

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Speaker 4: So where we getting this money?

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Speaker 5: Which means we're gonna while everybody else has their private collectives that are coming together, We're still trying to go through a corporate structure that by its very nature limits the amount of people that it can talk to. How much money can you ask from Morgan and Morgan? And then let's say the school needs money for a soccer stadium, but we want to get Mario the player. It's the same entity drawing money for both of them. That's a problem in my opinion. And if it was such a great idea, why is no other school doing it? And why are the schools that are doing it with lear Field giving themselves an out by keeping their private collectives?

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Speaker 4: I think that's a fair worried.

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Speaker 6: Drip, absolutely, and it comes at a time where everyone no one saw, certainly on the basketball side, where the previous model they just build put together one of the best rosters in the country. There was never more confidence in UK'SNIL operations than this spring when Pope was out there navigating the portal bringing players back. So right, when you think, all right, maybe we've got this thing figured out and Kentucky's gonna be rolling, you hand it over to JMI and it's back to well. I mean, we hope they can pull it off, and if they do, it will work out having it in house. But I mean people, as you've said, fans not a high approval rating for them on media as it is, and now you're giving them control of everything.

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Speaker 5: I won't bore you with the legalities. But the other thing about this deal is it assumes Congress is going to pass legislation. If Congress passes legislation, this can work. If they don't, it won't. Who has faith in Congress, Shannon, is that you with your hand up?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't have my hand up.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think this deal if Congress doesn't pass something just doesn't work. All right, I won't do this. The whole show will take calls right for this KSI TJ.

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Speaker 4: That's what you do have to have. You're exactly right about them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, takes a lot of though might work.

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Speaker 5: One person writes, Matt, pat is what your complaints are? Why Jaymi doesn't want to deal with you? Maybe if you would be more positive, things would be better. I'm sure it would. But like, if you just want the official word, just read the press release, you know, I mean when the when? When when the White House issues a statement? Do you think that's the whole truth, no matter who the president is. Do you read the White House official statement and go, well, that's the proof. That's all I needed?

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Speaker 4: All right? Next next talk what they want you to hear?

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Speaker 5: Andy, tell me what you think? Well, I'm good like you gotta have critical thinking skills and this show was just me telling you my opinion. You can feel free to disagree. But if you want the official word, I believe, uh there are shows that do that, and the and and they'll come on. Then you can you can make that decision, but the the goal is to get some understanding eight five nine two eight h twenty two eighty seven. Last thing, are you? Are you like? Overall?

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Speaker 4: Do you? Are you more positive about it than I am? Did Jami situation? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: No, I'm more positive than I was yesterday when I learned that they can still get some outside That's that was my probably biggest concern because right now, more than ever, you're looking at Stokes from Kentucky, who's one of those dudes that you really want to go out and get, And if they were to miss out on him because JMI is still figuring out what they're doing, I think that'd be an issue. But the fact that they can still step out gives me a little more optimism than yesterday. But overall, I still don't have a ton of faith.

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Speaker 4: Stokes will be their first test. I'm glad.

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Speaker 5: That's a good way to put it. Stokes will be their first test, and it's not just on them. I mean, Mark Pope might not be able to get Stokes, or Stokes might just want to go somewhere else. Like I'm not saying one player says the whole thing, but the first test of can you create a deal that makes it to where Stokes wants you to, makes it to wear a player.

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Speaker 4: What Stokes will be the first test of that.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it definitively answers the question either way, but I think it's a good I think that's a really good point.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a good initial Yeah.

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Speaker 6: You choose the other schools, but if in order to pick us, and it's still a problem, but I think it's a good first test. The worst case scenario is he goes somewhere else and we get quotes like they just couldn't meet my number or something like that.

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Speaker 4: That would be bad. Then that's where our concerns.

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Speaker 5: It's not an excuse anymore on the revshare piece because we've got it. The excuse now is can you make it work? And you know what, if they would just hire all the Club Blue people and bring them to Jami, then I'd be like, we're good. But those people don't want to do that, and so they're not going to So we'll see. All right, we got people on the phone. I want to talk about some interesting things as well, But let's go to a couple of these people on the phone.

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Speaker 4: Justin go ahead, justin.

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Speaker 8: Yes media Day, Stoops said that he doesn't believe that Kentucky football is going to be behind from the rest of the team's of football teams in the revenue sharing.

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Speaker 7: Is the JMI deal?

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Speaker 8: Is that part of why he seems so confident that we're not going to be behind in football.

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Speaker 5: I can't speak for him, but here's why I think he would say to that question.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 5: I think he believes that when it's all said and done, he will get enough money from the rev share to put a really like he'll be able to have as much as everybody else in the official money. And I think they believe, like, let's just use some numbers. There were estimations that last year schools in the SEC spent about twenty million on football. I've heard UK football last year spent about five million dollars. I bet that numbers higher, but if you ask the UK people, they say five. I think that's low, but regardless, there was a huge gap. I think now they would say, Okay, Georgia might spend twenty three, but we'll have seventy and we got a shot then, so I think that I still think there's gonna be a gap, but the GAP's not gonna be as wide. It's gonna it's it's gonna be like it's the difference between in baseball, the Dodgers spend the most, but you know what, like the Cubs still spend a lot, but now the Pirates don't spend anything, right, And I think they thought we were kind of the Pirates and now maybe we're the Cubs.

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Speaker 4: Is that fair? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I don't think like Stoops was towing the company line and being a yeah yeah, no, height because he doesn't have a very good poker face got to cover for years. And he seemed very genuine in that, No, we're in a white spot.

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Speaker 4: I like what we have.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't like Barnhardt whispered to him on his way to do the interview.

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Speaker 4: You know we're telling.

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Speaker 5: Is that we can't fake it, right, we can't fake it, and he doesn't fake it, And so I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I think he genuinely thinks that, or he wouldn't have said that.

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Speaker 5: John, go ahead, John, Hey, I I have a question.

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Speaker 9: But before I ask you, I think JMI is always a fun killer. I mean I remember times when Steven Johnson was playing and they had the the you guys did the face mask and they took them away because it basically wasn't their idea. I just think that anything that's fun and upcoming and that it's for the fans, unless it's they're the idea and they want to make money on it, they're not going to be on board for it.

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Speaker 5: Totally accurate, You hit, They have had the view, and this is going to have to change.

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Speaker 4: But they have had the view.

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Speaker 5: If they didn't come up with it and it's not and they're not getting money for it, it can't be done. That opinion has to change. I expressed that yesterday to some folks. I'm gonna express it when I talk to him later in the week. You you cannot be the hall monitor. And to use a political example, Donald Trump drives me crazy, but one of the things he's successful at is he comes off as being fun. Democrats in the last election came off as being the hall monitor. People don't like the hall monitor. JMI has been the hall monitor. They got to stop being the hall monitor. I totally agree. Go ahead to your second point.

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Speaker 9: The question I have is now that JMI has the rights and it's UK, does that mean that when players do nil deals. We can actually make them look like true nil deals. Nothing is a joke more When you have I'm gonna double quick commercial and they say, hey, I got a blue Russell branded T shirt that says basketball player.

00:29:57
Speaker 4: They can now only do it at least now can they Only.

00:30:01
Speaker 5: If Okay, I appreciate the call I've given you three times. Only if it's an official Jay of my partner. So Trent Noah can do a deal. But unless it's with an official Jay of my partner, he still can't wear the jersey. I think that's a mistake, but that's what it's going to be. So if Jay, if he wants to do a deal with a restaurant that doesn't pay money to UK, he'll have to wear the generic T shirt.

00:30:29
Speaker 6: I mean that's just where if you look at if they have other options at every other school, you're automatically limiting yourself. I mean, even if you believe Jami can pull it off, they do have one hand behind their back. If that's if that's the approach.

00:30:40
Speaker 5: On the school people that are the official partners. I just you do wonder how much money did that? Like, how much money can can Paul Miller pay?

00:30:51
Speaker 4: Right? I can only get my loan so many take out so many times.

00:30:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, and during a lot of our conflicts with am I I looked into how much it would cost for us to have something with him.

00:31:04
Speaker 4: I mean it was astound and so like if you just keep.

00:31:08
Speaker 5: Going to those people and going, all right, pay for this, I mean, there does come a point where you just go, how much you know, how much do you want me to spend? Noah, go ahead, Noah, Hey man, I've got.

00:31:19
Speaker 10: A very random ask anything one today for it? So with all this top yeah, so all the socc of movies that you guys have had this throughout this week, I've been thinking from with that, if you could have Hollywood make a biopick off of a historical figure from say like from the past fifty to one hundred years, and if you could have any sort of figure, and I want to know who it would be and who you would cast to have them. I have my answer I given now or.

00:31:45
Speaker 4: After you guys answer, go for it. What's yours? While I'm thinking.

00:31:49
Speaker 10: It's a very random one, which I know it would never happen because he's actually not an actor, but I was thinking of him before Joe Burrow and Billy Graham.

00:31:58
Speaker 5: Look it up some like, Wait, bit you could see Joe Burrows as the minister Billy Graham.

00:32:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it. I might have to look at that. Shon. Are you saying Joe Burrow looks like Billy?

00:32:16
Speaker 2: I'm saying I can see him pull that off.

00:32:18
Speaker 4: I can see that.

00:32:19
Speaker 5: I can't even fathom how Joe Burrow looks like Billy Graham.

00:32:25
Speaker 4: Picture of Billy Grant, I don't know. I don't know.

00:32:28
Speaker 5: I only remember Billy Graham as being old, so it's hard for.

00:32:31
Speaker 2: Me to look. Can you see that? If you can see that there.

00:32:35
Speaker 4: Oh, somebody has already done this. That's why.

00:32:38
Speaker 3: That's why I say it. I can see that because I have seen it. Okay, the thing that okay in that.

00:32:44
Speaker 4: Picture, I mean maybe, yes, that's interesting. I the we have better options in the casting room there.

00:32:55
Speaker 5: I actually think a bio of Billy Graham would be I mean, Billy Graham is like one of the people that I really revere and think like lived from what I know, exactly as you would want a Christian to live. People who've had interesting lives. Huey Long had a really interesting life. The former governor of Louisiana who was ran for president. He was shot. Uh you know. All the King's Men was based on him, but it's fictionalized. So I would like to I'd like to say, I'd love to see like a really good movie about Bobby Kennedy. There was a movie. I don't think it was very good. The Younger was not the kook that's in office right now?

00:33:38
Speaker 4: What about you? You got one?

00:33:40
Speaker 6: Chris Daniel day Lewis. Daniel da Lewis can do anything.

00:33:47
Speaker 7: Though.

00:33:48
Speaker 5: They'll make a movie about Chris Farley one day and it'll be really like, that's a really good pick.

00:33:54
Speaker 6: Why Why is an escape? He's one of my favorite actors. American Psycho Chris Christian Bell as Chris Farley.

00:34:02
Speaker 5: Well, if you had told me he could play Dick Cheney, I would have said no way, And then he did it.

00:34:06
Speaker 7: Great.

00:34:06
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:34:07
Speaker 2: How about see him in the New Madden Oh yeah, yeah, that's a good. How about Baby Billy and Billy Graham? Can you see that?

00:34:13
Speaker 5: I definitely can see that. I definitely could see Baby Billy interesting. I'm gonna have to think about though, as somebody like who's somebody's life that is fat from the last one hundred years. That is fascinating enough all the way around that I would want to see. I would want to see a movie. He was not a good person, I think. But I think a movie about George Wallace, the Alabama governor, would be interesting because he was like one of the leading segregationists and then at the end of his life he flipped and he thought everything he had done was wrong. It would be interesting to watch his progression, you know what I mean. He was the guy blocking the schoolhouse in Tuscaloosa from people becoming and then later in his life there were interviews where he expread like cried about how he had wasted his life doing these bad things. I think that would be interesting anyway. Or Chris Farley, Commonwealth Causes Bourbon Lovers, you don't want to miss out Thursday, August twenty eighth, my birthday, a twenty thousand dollars lineup of bourbon uh well Er Millennium. You also have the six bottle set, Blanton's eight bottle set, Club Blue four bottle set. Those are gonna be rare. Now go to Commonwealthcauses, dot com, common Causes, dot orgon enter.

00:35:34
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00:36:00
Speaker 4: I can. I mean, I guess, I don't know. It was Joe Burrow, good.

00:36:03
Speaker 2: Actor, probably not as a football player.

00:36:06
Speaker 5: Billy Graham was like, I mean, when I was a kid, like my mom like a door, what's it? My mom and Larry go to this place called the Cove, I think, which was like his place. They used to go there all the time, and uh, it was all but Billy Graham. Billy Graham. He was on TV a lot too when I was a kid, but not like in the Jerry Fallwell way, like it seemed like he was actually doing good.

00:36:27
Speaker 6: Yeah, speaking of your mom, it's I'm now in a group text with you, your mom.

00:36:30
Speaker 4: That's fun.

00:36:31
Speaker 5: I got me and my mom and Drew just group texting shit, you know, just to sending each other sending each other texts A new Taco Bell and ponval. Yeah, new Taco Bell and pie big news. It is a big news. So Jason goes, maybe they'd like ks R better UK if you all would pony up and give to the program. Have to respect the respect the brand and who owns the rights to it. Maybe put some cash in. Yeah, that's what you want, Jason, That's what you want. Is you want the media who pay to get access. That's a really good way to have like a system. Let's make it to where the only people that get any access at all in the media are are people who pay. Yeah, well let's put that in a different context. Yeah, I think you'd probably really like it if NBC paid Joe Biden for access to the White House, wouldn't that be good? And the entities that didn't pay him couldn't get in. Oh wait, maybe that's happening right now. But like, is that what you would want? That's not what you want. This is a public university.

00:37:39
Speaker 6: Also in the former model, Ron Lemon was losing so much money on the uh the King of Card the card game, Remember of the Club Blue.

00:37:47
Speaker 4: He's so ing of hearts.

00:37:54
Speaker 5: You don't want that you really want because also, if if I'm in partnership with u K, I'm just gonna say what they want.

00:38:04
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are sharing to just want to be lied to. Oh I'm sure, just lie to me. Yeah, tell me what better?

00:38:12
Speaker 5: Tell me what makes me feel better, because I don't like to hear things that don't make me feel good.

00:38:17
Speaker 6: There's a lot of people like that in a lot of realms. Unfortunately, how much you I have to pay for them to let me come inside when it's raining after a game? Impossible does make for a good video.

00:38:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we made But you made that work. You getting kicked out of the games, You made it work. Numbers went up, Hall Monitor, Alan, go ahead.

00:38:36
Speaker 11: Alan, Hey, guys, this is Allan from Saint Louis not Cutler. I don't want to have any beef for Shannon. I'm a fan of this, so let's just start off with that. I was just wondering that the UK Athletics Department forming the LLC a few weeks back. Do you think that's factored into that decision?

00:38:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, I mean this was this was announced at the first meeting of that LLC.

00:38:59
Speaker 4: Right, So clearly, yeah, clearly it had something to do with it.

00:39:03
Speaker 5: I'm not like a high level corporate lawyer, so I'm not sure what the tax implication, but for certain that had something to do with it.

00:39:12
Speaker 11: Were you surprised that Nike gave us a deal that was of lesser value than some of the other schools.

00:39:18
Speaker 5: No, because we're not a football school and the money's in football, so so no. I actually think what Kentucky gets from Nike is kind of amazing considering that we're not a football school. I have to think that Kentucky and Duke are by far the schools that get the most that are basketball primary schools, and Duke is almost a national brand. Kentucky is too, but Duke is even more so. Plus Duke has a very rich alumni base. But yeah, I'm I'm not surprised, you know, just think about it like this. Think about how many people are at a Tennessee football game. One hundred thousand people, right, Think about all the stuff they're buy when they're there. Take the biggest Kentucky basketball game and it's twenty one thousand people.

00:40:06
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a sheer numbers game. At some point, Allen.

00:40:11
Speaker 11: Doctor.

00:40:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, appreciate the call. I mean general of the football schools. That's it's always going to be the biggest thing.

00:40:18
Speaker 6: That's why when we were talking about Ohio State getting more, it's just the football brand just carries that you can't compare yourself.

00:40:24
Speaker 5: And just a population thing, like what's the population of Texas and Ohio versus Kentucky. I mean, Texas probably got four or five times as many people. Ohio's probably got three times as many people. So I mean I think that's.

00:40:38
Speaker 6: Having gone to that Texas game last year, My goodness, that's a different sport there.

00:40:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, And anyone in Austin knows Texas has a very wealthy alumni base, very wealthy, so I think Ohio State, I mean, I would say Kentucky. I mean, we're not the least wealthy alumni base, but against a lot of our competition, we probably aren't the highest wealth alumni base. So in our state, I mean, we're we don't have the money in our state that other states do. It's just it's just the fact, Sam, go ahead, Sam.

00:41:11
Speaker 7: Hey, Matt, I just wanted to call because I feel like I have the solution to the NCAA tournament. I know that they keep wanting to raise the number of teams that are in. I feel like that's going to make it worse and worse and worse. I think that they should go to the model that they use for basketball or me for baseball. For basketball, so go into the Quaw system. You have double eliminations to get to the sweet sixteen. And then that means that the Kentucky's, the Dukes of the world that are playing, if they lose a game, they still have a chance to go back. It's double that means they get the more money. They get, more money they do the reason why they want.

00:41:50
Speaker 4: To stand it. That's at the end of the day. I agree with you.

00:41:53
Speaker 5: I think it would make some sense to like go double elimination in the final four or something like that. In the early rounds. The NCAA Tournament needs Oakland beat in Kentucky.

00:42:04
Speaker 7: That's true. But at the same time, like you don't you want them. They would still be able to beat them, you know what I mean. But it just doesn't knock them out.

00:42:12
Speaker 4: But it's not as big a deal.

00:42:14
Speaker 5: Winning one out of the three out of the three is not enough, Like they gotta beat us. I do think going to the double elimination in the final four would be good, but the magic of the NCAA Tournament is Oakland over Kentucky and you can't you can't lose that.

00:42:32
Speaker 4: I don't think