When will the pain go away?

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to The Philly Show. Hi, everybody, Welcome to The Philly Show with Rubenamar Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd Zulucky. It's Wednesday, August fourteenth, twenty twenty four, part of the Foul Territory Network. Coming to you following probably maybe the worst game of the season, maybe the low point of the Philly season. You would like to think, probably about as bad of a game as I have seen. Is lethargic of a game as I have seen. But I've been sick for the last few days. Feeling better today. Jim, you were actually at the ballpark last night, and I'm just wondering watching on TV. You could hear some booze, you could see the play on the field, obviously, but man, to be in that ballpark last night. You used your press pass to get in. But I can't imagine having paid fifty sixty seventy dollars or more to come and watch this team. Coming off a ten game road trip, You're thinking you're going to see something much better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, forty two thousand plus another sellout. And these folks did not leave a Google review or a Yelp review. They used their lungs, so there were audible booze after eleven pitches when Taiwan Walker started, you know, throwing ball one, ball two, ball eight, and after sixteen pitches there were a lot of booze and he needed thirty four pitches to get through that first inning. Gives up a couple of runs. This booze after the inning, and then there's more booze in the third inning when he gets up a three to two home run to Jake Berger. Yeah, the fans were not pleased, nor should they be. Defense was sloppy. Castianos was tardy getting a ball into the infield that costs him an extra base that hurt. Turner made another era Jat made an error. They only got four hits for the night. They did not get a hit was runners in the scoring position. But you know, over three they only had three runners, three opportunities with a runner in scoring position because they just didn't hit young pitcher with you know, subpar stuff just tied them in knots. Very very frustrating evening for the fans. For the players, their body language was really terrible. After that first inning. It almost looked like, you know, Walker gives up a couple early. He's not throwing strikes starting, pitching's not there, and okay, chalk up another loss. And you know, I go back to that sweep of Milwaukee in early June before they went to London. They're now six games under five hundred since that point over fifty six games, which is more than a third of the season. So they have been a poor team really as long as they were the best team in baseball. So what's this final third of the season gonna tell us they need to tighten it up?

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Speaker 3: Because it is quite ugly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't go to the game, but I was watching on TV. I took a day off after me on the road, and I will tell you this, folks, that was an embarrassing baseball game. It's embarrassing to watch them right now because this is this is a team that should be much more talent to be playing much better baseball. This is really kind of as simple as that. Probably the most embarrassing game I've seen this year. I know they've been blown out a few times, but this is the Miami Marlins, no disrespect, but they're not that great of a team, not good enough team, and they shouldn't be necessarily competing all that well with them and the pitcher that they fired out there, Valente Bayoso. I mean, this guy was okay, he mixed it up, but he was flipping it like the what I would call a forty breaking ball up there and a forty fastball, which is a grading system. I mean, he just I'm sorry, man, he had nothing and for them not to be able to make the adjustments. I know that the umpire was giving him some pitches and you know, just you know, and I know hittings difficult, but that was a very very poor offensive performance and a poor defensive performance. They cannot have their shortstop making errors like this on a consistent basis. They just can't have that happen. And you know, just overall, they just have not played very good baseball at all. And you know, and it all really starts with the starting pitching. I've been saying it from the beginning. The starting pitching has been over like the last shoot since July first, their rankings, as far as a staff is concerned, er is twenty eighth in baseball. It's over five. It's like a five to two eight or something like that. I don't have the I think I do have actual exact numbers. I'll pull them up at some point, but it's it's not going to get it done. And if an adjustment is not made, if something doesn't happen. And I think that there is going to be a massive adjustment sometime soon. I'm not sure what it's going to be, but you're gonna see. If this particular series ends up as ugly as as the first game, I think you're gonna see some massive changes going on. And Dave Dombrowski is just not gonna He's not gonna tolerate it. That's that's my sense of it. I don't know this for sure, because I don't you know, I don't talk to him on a daily basis or anything like that, but just my sense is that this is not acceptable and things are changed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think all three of us are very patient people because they're around baseball every day and so we know the grind and the marathon that is the season. But it's now reached the point where you can't just say, all right, it's it's a bad few weeks, it's a bad month. The play recently, how good they are, how much money has been invested in this team, the expectations of this team and how they played recently, especially last night. So yeah, if they go out and they threw up another clunker tonight, if they the Nationals come into town and they fight to get a split, you gotta do better than that. I mean, you know, you mentioned Trey Turner. Rubin to me is kind of emblematic of everything that's kind of going on with this team. He was so insanely hot a month ago. We were talking about is he gonna be the first Phillies player to win a batting title since Richie Ashburn. We were talking about he might not win MVP, but he's going to get MVP votes. Now his OPS is, howevering around eight hundred. It's dropped a hundred points in a month. It seems like he's taken that into the field with his defense, he's not running great now. I remember talking to Trey in Seattle a couple of weeks ago. Are you hurt because he was not coming into games late or he was you know, there were some situations where he was not doing the things he would normally do, and and he said, no, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm just you know, trying to be cautious here. So it's like he's not hurt, but he's not running hard all the time. He's being tentative. I don't know what that's about. Is that like a mental thing. Is he trying to avoid maybe blowing out for later in the season because he knows that would be disastrous. So now you're not giving, You're not being Trey Turner on the field. So there's this whole thick kind of thing going on which is just massively frustrating, and it kind of culminates into what's been going on.

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Speaker 2: So and this should be a this should be a get well home stand, you know, That's what we said. Yeah, God's brought them this, this this soft schedule, this Miami team that has, you know, no disrespect, but a lot of guys we haven't even heard of, and they just they take it to him last night, and then you got Washington and then you.

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Speaker 3: Got Alumni weekend, and that all means something.

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Speaker 2: They need a good showing because, you know, throughout this homestand need to get it together quickly because the Ruben used the word embarrassing and you know, just I don't care who you're playing against, the quality of play, they're showing right now is an embarrassment to the to the roster that they've assembled, the payroll up and down, people will just it makes you cringe.

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Speaker 4: I would love to know. Yeah, I know that John's not happy. I'm sure he's not very happy with the product that's being put out there. You know, you've got a couple hundred million dollar payroll, whatever the heck it is. I'm sure that Dave Dombrowski's not happy. I'm sure that Rob Thompson is not happy. And at some point there's good there's gonna reach you a boiling point and and there's gonna be action. There will be action if if this continues much longer, I've got to.

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Speaker 1: Do something, you know, so no doubt, no, I was gonna say so, uh, if we decided we would ask for listener questions for your questions yesterday and what timing? What's timing for the question? Scott's so, Ruben, I'm going to start with you, and then Jim you can chime in if you want. This is more of an existential, big picture question, Rubin. This is from Ryan sofranco on on X, formerly of Twitter. Rubin, When will the pain go away?

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Speaker 4: Ruben?

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Speaker 1: When will the paying go away? When will the Phillies? When will the Phillies stop hurting me? Michael on X also asked.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a little hurtful for me too, because I had to call them, you know, on the road, and I had to watch this up close and personal, and I know this is a much better team that it's been been displayed. Uh, it's gonna it's gonna turn around when the pitching turns around. They're starting pitching. And if the starting pitching doesn't come back and bounce back, they're in trouble. Because that was that was the thing that separated them from all other teams. It was them and the Seattle Mariners and Seattle Marriers in the first part of the season had no offense, but they had great starting pitching. The Phillies had tremendous starting pitching and and they were banging the ball around the ballpark. They had a good, nice combination going that starting pitching needs to bounce back. If it doesn't, they're in trouble. And they won't and they won't get very far in the playoffs. And I know they've performed. All those guys, all the top three guys that performed in the playoffs. But you know, you start thinking about like the possibility of what's going to happen if they really really collapse. There is a possibility that they do not make the playoffs, which is something that was so unthinkable two weeks ago, a month ago, and I got to believe that they will. But it is a possibility because other teams could surpass them.

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Speaker 2: You make the point that starting pitching. I agree, starting pitching needs to get going to the basis for all good teams, and it was the basis for them building the best record base. I would take one phase right now. You know, give me this st okay, I'll take it. Give give me the defense, give me the offense, because they're all flagging right now, and you know, you talk about the collapse and they might not make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it sounds so fatalistic.

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Speaker 2: But this is the sixty year anniversary of sixty four the Eagles had their collapse in in uh, you know, last season, and you know, everybody's talking about this.

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Speaker 3: It's really part of the narrative.

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Speaker 2: Phillies need to stop it now and extricate themselves from this narrative.

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Speaker 3: This collapse narrative, all.

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Speaker 2: These connections to sixty four, all these connections to the Eagles. They need to retake their season and drive their own narrative. And it starts with getting one phase of the game back. Go out there and hit, hit with runs and scoring vision, run around the bases, show some energy, make a great play, you know, stop making errors.

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Speaker 3: Stop.

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Speaker 2: You know, even the players, they don't make aras on they're just not shock plays that are given extra basis. Get the starting pitching back gets I mean, you know, he's he's gonna throw something this weekend. He's gonna either do another SIM game or a rehab start to be determined, but you know, get him back maybe next week and have him looking like his old self, getting Nola.

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Speaker 3: Back, showing some consistency.

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Speaker 2: Consistency, Excuse me, I would just take one phase of the game right now and build on that.

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Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of sixty four Phillies talk. Thankfully, the twenty twenty four Phillies know nothing about the sixty four Phillies, so it's not like they're fighting that ghost or chasing that or that ghost is chasing them.

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Speaker 3: He had a relative on that team.

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Speaker 1: Well, I remember I was gonna say, Rubin, I remember talking to your dad about the sixty four Phillies. I'm sure he talked to you about it a lot, or maybe he didn't. I know that that haunted him. And so that's a feeling that this team does not want to to live with for the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 4: No, they don't. I know. I remember my dad. I remember my mom wants telling me. At one of the games he came back. Now, he was on the d L for part of it, and it disabled list for that back then, not the i L. Anyway, it was a disabled list, and I think he either separated his shoulder on a slide back or something. But he missed about six or seven of those games when they were really sliding, maybe more. And my mom tells me the story that when they got back to the apartment in Northeast Philly after one of the games, my dad like punched a wall in a big, big hole in the wall. And yeah, they covered up or whatever. But I remember that there's a hot, very very high frustration.

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Speaker 2: They need to extricate themselves from this narrative, and it needs to start tonight.

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Speaker 4: Jim.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna so, Rubyn, you've talked about this each of the today and in our last episode, Jim, So I'm gonna ask you this question. This is from Urbane the Urbane Turtle on X. Do you think changes in management or coaching are in order? Something is clearly wrong within the clubhouse for the whole team to be underperforming once for so long. And I guess this could dovetail into the other question thoughts on moving on from Kevin Long. That's from Tim McLachlan on X.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not into I'm not there where you have to fire somebody, but you know, I think the fact that you're playing two really weak teams on this homestand and you played poorly now for fifty six games. If it continues much longer, they would probably consider anything to shake things up. I think right now it's probably more in the lineup. I mean, he did fiddle with the lineup a little bit last night. You know, I wouldn't if you know, this goes on for another week, I wouldn't rule out maybe them sending somebody to Triple A, somebody who might have options, somebody who might struggling. Brandon marsh is racking up strikeouts and having uncompetitive at bats. I mean you'd like to see I mean, he needs to turn it around. Other than that, I mean, you know, maybe you can get Sosa out there and left field. I mean, what happened to that idea? Was it just a it was just a talking point that they were going to follow through on. He does bring some energy to the lineup, I would figure try to get him in there and see if he can add a little spark. So I do see, you know, the need for some shake up. But I'm not ready to start chopping people's heads off. But hey, you want to avoid that turn it around.

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Speaker 4: I think there's got to be there's gotta be some change. There's got to be some change, whether it's the lineup, whether it's some roster or whatever the case may be. I don't necessarily think that that you need to make changes at the management level or the coaching level. I don't think that that that that's really but but it's I'm sure it's going to be considered. Everybody's being evaluated all the time. I was evaluated as a player, I was evaluated as a coach, and I was evaluated as a as someone in the front office. So you're always being evaluated and it's about results. I will tell you that as always, and finally about wins and losses and and and the brand of baseball that you're seeing. And right now, the brand of baseball is not quality. And so something has to change to make this change, to make the brand of baseball become better, because if it doesn't, then you're gonna see some Then you need to see some change. Can you real change?

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Speaker 3: Can you believe we're even talking about this?

00:16:21
Speaker 2: Crazy once ago there's doing flying high talking one hundred and sixteen wins?

00:16:26
Speaker 1: Are they gonna run down the two thousand and one Mariners or whatever it was?

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Speaker 4: Right, it's amazing that that's the game of baseball, guys. The game of baseball will get you. And then the baseball guys are always like listening in, hey, what huh really?

00:16:39
Speaker 1: Oh, you can't be beat?

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Speaker 2: Oh one hundred most wins ever, like the baseball dodge man, they can beat in.

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Speaker 3: Spiteful it's maybe they like Roe Hoss.

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Speaker 2: After they swept the Dodgers, Johann Rojas was beating his chest a little bit, and it's almost like they were like.

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Speaker 4: What you like Garrett Stubbs dropped the old swimming in the pool piece. You know, listen, you can't. You can't mess with the baseball guys. Here's the bottom line, man, they better start playing better baseball or one you're not gonna see the sellouts that you're seeing every single night and to the boo birds are coming out. And you could talk about the symbiosis between this fan base and this team, but if they don't play well and win, then you're gonna see a fraying of that symbiosis and that and that bond. Believe me, the fans have an expectation and if the expectation is not met, there's gonna be changes.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, I gotta go on dictionary dot com and look.

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Speaker 4: Up there you go.

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Speaker 1: So wait a second. So you guys both and I don't disagree with you. But July twenty ten, Reuben, the Phillies had I think led the National League or baseball and run score two out of the previous three years. July twenty ten, the Phillies are struggling. They get shut out in Saint Louis, Jim and I are having sitting down having a nice Italian meal at a little corner place night. So it was a Saint Louis Sunday evening meal, everything was shut down. The Phillies charter flight lands in Philadelphia and we get a notice that Meil Thompson has been relieved of his duties as hitting coach. Now Chase Suttley had been injured. There had been other injuries, but the team had been underperforming to that point. A couple of weeks before that, as the team was underperforming, somebody asked Charlie Tom, Charlie Thompson, Charlie Manuel about mill Thompson. He was was like, what are you talking about? Mill Thompson's a fantastic hitting coach. Two weeks later, a change is made. Greg Gross is instilled installed as hitting coach. Is it that dissimilar of a situation, totally different situation than it is now? I mean that, and then you know the team took off from there.

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Speaker 4: I can't I can't talk speak to what's going on in the clubhouse and the work that's being done. I know these guys are in their retails off. I know that they were, and in that in that instance, I just felt like a new voice needed to be heard, and it was really my call, Really wasn't Charlie's call. You know, I kind of pushed Charlie into that one a little bit. And and I love Mel Thompson. I think he's a fantastic coach. I don't think there's anything, but you know, I don't think it wasn't It wasn't didn't have anything to do with this ability to coach or it was just I just felt like you couldn't change all the players, so sadly the coaches were the manager takes the hit and we ended up. You know, I think Greg Gross took over, if I'm not mistaken, he came back and took over and and we ended up. You know, things changed and things got a little bit better. I don't know if that's the reason necessarily, but sometimes just a change and again you're you're messing with people's lives, you know. That's that's the worst part of our job is they have to make those kind of changes.

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Speaker 3: Su But that's great, that's great, recall.

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Speaker 4: But it's something. But it's something, but it's something that's you know, something that's just sometimes you just have to you know, that's why you have to wear the black hat. Sometimes sucks.

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Speaker 3: I know that I remember that that was really tough on you.

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Speaker 4: Very difficult. He's a great teammate, wonderful person. I mean, I'm, you know, no riends with him.

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Speaker 1: He knows hitting what that was? That was twenty ten, twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: That was twenty twenty ten. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was. It was a shocking move.

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Speaker 2: It was akin to well, we talked about rolling a grenade through the club through the clubhouse and somebody's gonna have to take it, and it kind of reverberated and woke that place up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I ended up turning around.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what the numbers were. I don't know what happened after that. I know, I know they started playing better at hitting better, But I you know, again, I don't think I had anything to do with the with with the actual you know person or that. I just think I think something needed to be changed and we changed it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think this team is there yet.

00:21:07
Speaker 2: But again, yeah, continue to fall on your face in a homestand that you should be grabbing by the throat and taking control of.

00:21:16
Speaker 3: And you never know.

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Speaker 1: So okay, here's another one, and I don't would you well, we kind of discussed about this, would you consider benching Marsh Stott for Sosa and Wilson slash Rojas once Austin Hayes returns. Sounds like you guys would be open to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would try to get in more some way, somehow starting tonight.

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Speaker 4: Guys, they have to perform. I mean, listen, I mean, at some point you have to be able to do your job to keep your job. I mean, nobody's necessarily guaranteed jobs. I mean there's guys on the field. You're Schreber and Harper and Turner and JT those guys, and Cassiano's their stay. They're not going anywhere. If the other guys that are support players are not supporting, then maybe you have to change some of the support. And right now those guys aren't performing.

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Speaker 2: I will say this last night stops first at bat, he put a charge in one, hit it to the big part of the ballpark, hit it on the screws, hit it good. And his second at bat he ran three to two counts for a lot of pitches and lined out to right phield in my opinion, better at bats, So maybe something is coming there.

00:22:30
Speaker 1: But Marshas is the one that.

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Speaker 3: Just looks lost.

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Speaker 4: Mark his rate of strikeouts. I mean he's had what a fifty percent strikeout or sixty percent strikeout rate for the last in the last ten games, some crazy Thomber.

00:22:42
Speaker 1: It's a big number so in baseball this season. I look this up last night at players with a minimum of three hundred played appearances, he's got the fifth highest strikeout rate in Major League Baseball thirty two point eight percent. One out of every three at bats ends in a strikeout. For him, it's thirty eight point five percent. Since he came back from the Ile on June fifteenth. That's the second highest in baseball. Will Ben will Benson from Cincinnati is the only guy higher. He has batted two oh one with a six forty one OPS since he came back from the Ile in mid June. Since July twelfth, that's since the Dodgers sweep at home, he's betting one ninety eight a four to twenty eight ops. So that's terrible.

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Speaker 4: That's it's not gonna done. Yeah, and he's and he's a much more talented player than that, but he's just not getting it done. I think sometimes either you just need to sit down and watch a few games, or you know, something has to happen where he just needs to have a little bit of a mental shift because right now he's not He's not playing the type of brand of baseball that you would expect of this player.

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Speaker 1: Right So this is from Fighting's talk on X. Why hasn't Taiwan Walker been DFA yet? I'll hang up and listen. Thanks. I mean a lot of a lot of Taiwan Walker. I mean I could have picked fifteen Taiwan Walker questions on Instagram, Facebook X because because you know, go ahead, Jim.

00:24:10
Speaker 3: No, it's the need for pitching depth.

00:24:12
Speaker 2: Pitching depth is hard to find, and he's a big, big contract, owed a lot of money.

00:24:19
Speaker 3: I think that's why.

00:24:20
Speaker 2: And then you know they need the pitching depth and they have the financial commitment, they're going to ride it out a little longer.

00:24:24
Speaker 3: But it's a fair question.

00:24:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, since the first season with Taiwan, he just really hasn't been the same pitcher. Not there's not much on the baseball right now. I don't see a whole lot of life on his stuff. And I know he's working hard to try to get back to that place. I just haven't seen it. And hopefully it can bounce back. But they've been hoping, hoping for a long time. It just doesn't seem like it's his armor is responding.

00:24:51
Speaker 2: If they had reasonable pitching depth, do you think they would eat two years on that big contract, Groven.

00:24:56
Speaker 4: I think they would. I think they would if they if they felt like he was good to bounce back, that they really in their hearts, heart of hearts, they would.

00:25:03
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you know there was there was another question on there. Uh And I did not put this one down because to me, it was just too obvious. But it was a question regarding mick Abel. Why isn't he gotten an opportunity. Well, it's obvious he has not pitched well all season long. Now if mick Abel is doing his job or performing as the Phillies had hoped, I mean they were talking about mid season last year, talking about maybe he could make a push in the second half to help this team out. Now he's not even in the not even remotely in the conversation to help this team.

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Speaker 4: Again, this is why, this is why prospects are prospects. And he's got great talent. But this game is a very mental game. It's a development game. It is that you just never know which guy can figure it out mentally to perform to expectation. I watched hundreds upon thousands of players that I played with or against in the minor leagues who had uber talent, who could not get past double A. And it's the reason is because the game can wear on you so difficult. It's so difficult mentally for you to be able to perform to what your body is able to do, to have your brain work to make your body do what it's supposed to do, and hopefully the young man can bounce back. And I mean when you have that kind of talent, I mean you're hoping that it's at some point it develops and comes out. Sometimes it takes longer, sometimes it's a real short time span. But that's why prospects are prospects. And that's why I trade prospects for talent that's doing the job in the major league and.

00:26:47
Speaker 2: His lack of development or slow development, whatever you want, it's affecting this team the twenty twenty fourteen because he should be knocking at the door, he should be stepping over the threshold. He should be filling, you know, it should be got to that point of his career where he's able to fill that breach, be depth, be maybe more than depth put heat on Taiwan Walker, allow them to sit upstairs and say, Okay, is it time to say goodbye to Taiwan Walker. I mean, I remember Jamie Moyer. He used to a couple of spring trainings when he was here. He'd go over and talk to the monerorn leaguers at the complex about you know, perseverance, just about getting to the big leagues, about making that next step. He would talk about early in his career the challenges he had to overcome physically, mentally.

00:27:31
Speaker 1: But he would.

00:27:32
Speaker 2: Always kind of punctuate his conversation with these minor league pitching prospects by saying, people ask me all the time, why am I pitching at age forty four? Why am I pitching at age forty five? And he's say, the reason I'm pitching at age forty four and forty five is because.

00:27:47
Speaker 3: None of you guys have come and taken my job.

00:27:50
Speaker 1: So truth, great answer, come up.

00:27:54
Speaker 2: Truth, I think the jobs of players who are not performing well, And honestly, that's just what happened with this team.

00:28:02
Speaker 1: Rubin. What do you think? This is from a Phil's fan DLR on Instagram. What do you think Dallas Green would have done if you were managing this team right now, he probably think Dallas. I don't think Dallas would have lasted in this in this era, no.

00:28:17
Speaker 4: I mean guys like Dallas, and and and Larry Boo, guys who sort of wear their hearts on their sleeve and are I mean and Dallas was probably a little bit more judicious when he made his you know, made his pleas to the team or made his stance. I think he would have been pretty vocal. I think there would be after a ballgame, sort of like this last ball game, he probably would have flipped a table or two. But I don't think he would have done it like twenty times, but he would have. He would have let people know his displeasure in the type of on the brand of baseball that was being played. It's a different era. Guys take things differently. I think when he came down in eighty, I mean, the players hated him, players didn't like him, but he challenged them. And back then, when you got challenged, if you were if you were a real competitor, then you challenged back. And that's exactly what that team did, and that's one of the reasons why they had so much success. Now, it's a different sort of mindset. When you're challenged, there's a tendency to back down and to you know, view that as a affront. And and I don't think that people handled that sort of criticism as well.

00:29:43
Speaker 1: And I think people want Rob Thompson to be Dallas Green right now. And I don't necessarily feel.

00:29:48
Speaker 4: That it's not his personality.

00:29:50
Speaker 1: It's not his personality. And also and I think people take calmness and postgame comments to mean indifference or I'm just gonna stay the course and I don't care. And I you know, I don't even see what you guys see. I that's not what Rob Thompson is thinking. And that's not how he's talking to his players. He will get on his players behind closed doors, but he's not going to come out post game and say Trey Turner is better get his act together, or this is you know, this player is an embarrassment to me and Phillies fans should have every right to boo this player X because he stinks right now. That's not who Rob Thompson is. No, it does not mean he does not care. It does not mean he does not care.

00:30:37
Speaker 4: I got let me just say this about Rob Thompson. I love Rob Thompson. I love everything about him. I love the I love his overall development. I love where he can come from. I love where he is. I love the way that he handles the media. And I don't people think it's like, you know, it's too flatline for him, but that's what plays in the clubhouse number one and number two. He cares. Believe me, he cares. This Canadian is not happy about what's going on on the field. I guarantee you and and I know that he's addressed some things and he will continue to address some things. He just handles things a lot differently than you know what, you know what maybe the fans would expect. But this, this is a This is a good leader. This is a great leader. This is a good person and a great baseball man. And I believe in what he's and how he goes about it. And at some point, at some point, and I don't know what that's gonna be, and I know some things have been addressed. It may be dressed on a on a on a bigger scale.

00:31:36
Speaker 2: If this continues, If this continues, I'm gonna make a prediction that he gets booted one of these nights and goes off and stomps off the field and and and does something like that. But you know, you mentioned Dallas, you mentioned BAA. It's a different era, but god, I would love to see the blow up. It would be great.

00:31:58
Speaker 3: It's entertainment. I've seen a few of them, and I might even been the victim of a few of them. But that's fine.

00:32:05
Speaker 4: Fine.

00:32:07
Speaker 2: I have to digress and offer an anecdote that I heard at the ballpark last night. Larry Boa ejected for many a ball game by many of umpire. Apparently was recently ejected from an uber. Ah, you're gonna have to.

00:32:27
Speaker 3: Do some reporting and find out the details. I gotta find out.

00:32:31
Speaker 4: I'll have to talk to Patty about that one.

00:32:33
Speaker 2: Apparently it was raining and he was having trouble with the door, and he closed the door too hard because he was worried about rain getting in the driver's car, and the driver didn't like that and said, got.

00:32:43
Speaker 3: A here are you kidding me?

00:32:46
Speaker 1: Yeah? And that messes And I'm sure that messed up. Bo is Larry's five star rating.

00:32:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta get the five.

00:32:55
Speaker 4: He may not get another ride. He's gonna be waiting for hours for an Uber now.

00:33:00
Speaker 3: Larry Somatic perfect. So you know what I said to him? I said, who is the driver, Bob Davidson.

00:33:09
Speaker 1: Larry's gonna have to go over to lift now He's gonna have to switch accounts, gonna shove back and forth. So let's let's wrap up. Two more questions.

00:33:18
Speaker 4: Uh.

00:33:19
Speaker 1: This is from six dough on x Jim. Have the past two months caused Jim? Have the past two months caused Jim to regret ending his sabbatical.

00:33:29
Speaker 2: No, because it's great to be back hanging with you guys and and reading all six toughs incredibly hilarious tweets his his caustic wit so No, I love the game of baseball and it's it's it's whether they're winning and losing. It's so fun to to watch and chat with you guys about it.

00:33:52
Speaker 1: Way better having at the ballpark, Jim. And this last one is from Sophia Amorro on Instagram. It just says, what a no way she did?

00:34:03
Speaker 2: Not?

00:34:05
Speaker 1: That is what are you gonna?

00:34:08
Speaker 4: What's up? As My two kids are living with me again, which is kind of cool, man. They're living with me at least briefly before my eldest goes back up north. But Sophia and Andrea are working together and same company. It's kind of cool. And uh and I have them together here uh in Philly. It's pretty cool. That's what's up. Uh, that's funny, hardwired into your wallet? Uh, deeply, deeply. I Meanwhile, they're both making more money than I am.

00:34:44
Speaker 1: That's good.

00:34:45
Speaker 3: That means he did a good job.

00:34:48
Speaker 2: Ruben's daughters when they were yay Hi, running around the Crescent Beach Club with my kids in spring training way back when, Oh my goodness, you're getting old, my friends, Yeah we are.

00:34:59
Speaker 1: That is weird. Like and you see, like your daughter's Ruben like fully grown. You see like Dalton Varshow making a diving catch in left fields. I remember him a little tiny kid just out there hitting his dad, hitting fungos to him a Citizens Bank Park when it first opened, Like, oh my god, that guy's really he's a good big leaguer.

00:35:18
Speaker 4: Now about Billy, about Billy Wagner's Billy Wagner's kid, How crazy was that?

00:35:25
Speaker 1: That is wild? Yeah, So you know, maybe that's what's up. That's what's up. Maybe the Phillip maybe the Phillis will pick it up. Beginning to night beginning tonight at Citizens Bank Park against the Marrows. We'll be back later this week. Maybe the tone will have shifted, guys. Maybe so thanks, Thanks, Yeah, We'll talk to you guys later. Seeing later in the week, Smelling later, guys.

00:35:57
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