Club 520 - Derrick Rose on NBA retirement, MVP season with Bulls, scoring 50 with Timberwolves

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Shout out 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.480 to b Swift, legend holding it down for forty two. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.840 Dug my dog here, but I'm glad you pulled back 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.840 up to work. My boy, I'm back, I'm bag. Let's 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:51.280 get to it. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:52.760 Bro, you were always know what I'm saying. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.400 I know you've been a lot of places, especially you 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.280 know what I'm saying from the shot those shoes over here, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.000 you see the black forces with the white class. When 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.680 you know what I'm saying, You at the crib and 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.160 you see those what's the first thing to come to 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:02.600 your mind? 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:09.080 I'll show you jack jacking something. Watch out, bro, I 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:16.280 don't steal I heal your wallet. The white laces is crazy. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:23.360 So you'll call me a skamer. You said you showing it? 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.920 You alrea'y talking about the nagery. You might might be 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:30.239 a lineage on a right, my dog young not show 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:31.560 young tig how you are man. 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.280 I'm chilling, man, I'm geeked. Know how I feel about 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.360 seven and now we got my dog. 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:36.680 In the building. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:38.160 It's about to be a great Now. I'm gonna let 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.480 you do the honestly introducing me. But I'm like, listen, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.359 it's very rarely to everybody. We had that one person 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.799 on our list when we start this podcast, like who 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.360 we wanted on this show. It was this man right here, 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.800 legend our con youngest m v P wanted the best 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.200 to do it. Your favorite Hooper's favorite Hooper we got 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.640 d Rose Derrick Rose in the building. Appreciate you pulling up, 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.880 big dogs, love man. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.919 Man have to pull up west Ship. You know what 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.239 I'm saying. You know what it is. Listen Like I said, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:05.880 but we all be fanned out different souff. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.919 But when we found out that Rock with the show, 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.400 but that meant a lot to us about for real, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:10.079 for real bro. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:14.240 Yeah, of course me, my son and my team, uh 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.600 Random and Maddie. They told me about it to the squad. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.280 Of course, right when the idea came up, I had 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:25.079 to pull up. And with it being so close to Chicago. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:31.840 So the niggas got your cater, bro listen door days 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:32.440 to beat up. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:42.000 I usually I'll usually holder somebody something, but we was like, 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:43.839 freaking I told you, boy, you might be a cater 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.000 first boy fall shout to chaff y'all went crazy for 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.080 this episode. Man, I gotta say something before we really start. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.920 But my dog Mike, All Mike is our guy behind 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:57.040 the scenes. But they know freaking Mike the podcast. He 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.400 told me, I don't get excited about too many Yes, Bro, 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:03.560 I said. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:08.560 What freak might put on the whole outfit and he 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:09.480 took his food off. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:19.680 He put the freshoes on. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:24.040 He Wilent, You're different. I respect them. You can't even 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:25.279 say that niggas and rolls. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.600 Shout out to freaking Miif for hold it down. Man, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:35.520 But listen, man, we are honored that you were here. 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.640 Man. Man, we just got to start with it. My 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:38.280 heart felt over. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.880 This is crazy, man, I want to say, Man, shout 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:41.800 out to you and the team. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:42.040 Man. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.680 One of the best rollosts I have ever seen. Wow 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.520 for rel Fred, just the way that she went through everything. 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.159 And we were joking with you about this. We were 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.200 just like De roll such a legend. He the only 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.280 person who could send another de Rosa and nobody think 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.479 nohing knowlse of it, Like, ain't nobody have. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:56.840 Anybody what what? 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:57.760 Like? 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.840 No, that's de row Bro. It's the reason for that. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.800 I'm glad it came with a note ats in trouble. 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.960 I was nervous at the card. 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.359 So it's crazy because the week before I have bought 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.800 my wife and roses and put them on there, so 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.719 they died or whatever. So she sent me a picture 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.640 of them. I'm like, damn, she didn't buy her all 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.240 rolls up. I was like, I would have got them, 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:20.840 and she was like fool read the note. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.880 I was like, oh, so it was love bro. Me 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.520 and my team we decided to like just come up 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.680 with something different, you know, like, uh, we did that 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:38.960 within like two weeks, randoming Maddie around Maddie, Uh, standing 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.880 up late, going over ship to the day before, stand 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.200 up to three o'clock in the morning to send out 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.120 the post, making sure you got your eyes cross your t's. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.800 But this whole ship was about like just giving back 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.599 or just flipping everything on his head, where normally when 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:59.560 you do do something like this, uh, you receive the flowers. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.840 But I didn't get here by myself, you know what 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.720 I'm saying. I got here with Rando. I've been knowing 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:08.479 him since sixth grade. I've been on Mattie since for 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.160 ten plus years now. And my team it's the same thing. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.400 It's sixth grade and that's something that we built. We're 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.400 building the empire right now, but just doing the right way, 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.040 trying to do it with class and just showing a 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:24.400 lot of love and support to all the fans. 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.800 We definitely appreciate that. I know, you know, for you 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.640 can speak on this. You know what I'm saying, Class 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.640 all seven, you know, what I'm saying, career, you know 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:33.560 this time, how was that Like that moment you was 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.120 like all right, you know, I'm gonna see what the 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.000 other side might be for a second. See, my retirement 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.080 was a little different. It was kind of because of injury, 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.520 but I just knew my time was up. I wanted 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.600 to ask you, like, when did you know you were 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.720 done playing? Like what made you feel like, yeah, I'm 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.400 gonna hang it up? Because I feel like, to me 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.080 watching you, annoying you, I'm like, man, he could play forever. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.360 I just think you had that ability. I just wonder, like, 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:56.680 what made you want to hang it up? 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.640 Bruh, I've been thinking about it for a while, bro. 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.880 But well I was just telling you in the room, 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.640 or telling y'all in the room about like, uh. 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:11.000 Like give me your all. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.200 To your kids, Like my younger kids, they don't mention 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.560 the game at all. They don't say they don't ask 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.240 about are we going to the game? They don't say nothing, bro. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.240 So with PJ, I have to talk to him a 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.360 little bit different. So before I even talked to everybody, 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:28.800 we in the room, it's me and him just talking. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.760 And before then I'm thinking the whole time. My damn, 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.520 I'm gonna have this conversation with him, right. So we're 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.840 talking and he brings up Kanye then and we was 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.400 just in the room talking bell mellow. So I'm like, ah, 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:45.120 it's time. I'm like, come downstairs. He comes downstairs. I'm like, bro, 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.440 how you think he got better? He was like, he's 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.640 working out with a trainer. I'm like, who else in 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.960 the Gym's his dad? 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:57.160 Like his dad? Huh? Like his dad present? I'm like, 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:58.920 you think Melloone't got nothing to do with that? 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:04.320 He was like yeah. But after I kept talking. At first, 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.880 when I told him, of course devastated, hurt. But after 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:12.040 I kept talking to him, he was excited because he's seen, like, man, 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:16.440 now I get this individual time with my dad and 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.559 like my son, he know exactly where he's at right now, 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.640 like this moment, he knows exactly where he's at. So 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.720 for me to tell him that in the family, be 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:28.960 like sad at first and be excited. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.320 And since that day it's been nothing beloved. But I 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:33.199 knew right. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:37.800 Like sometime since since like last year, I'm going through it. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.719 You know, you go through the rehabs. You're the only 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.760 one that's going through that shit, bro, Like nobody else, 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:47.320 your family members, nobody else's staff, nobody going through it 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.720 with you. So I'm like, man, you have the question 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.679 of like what the fuck am I doing? Like you 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.600 know what I'm saying, give him all Like it's cool. 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:02.000 But I want to be able to elevate too, show growth. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:03.880 And that's one of the reasons why I came on 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:08.320 here because I wanted to tell my stories and to 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.880 be able to articulate myself and show people to growth 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.800 from when I first came to the league to now 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.880 with me being a grown as well. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.120 That's real broact And like you said, like the influence, 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.320 especially at this age is so impressionable with kids growing 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.560 up so fast, being exposed to so much. And we 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:25.599 were talking like in a room like you know what 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.640 I'm saying, shout out to pop tea, like having yall 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:29.880 energy early on having like you said, it does make 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.640 a difference. No facts, facts, but I wanted to make 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.720 sure that we clarify that, like you decided to retire, 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.760 not that anything else like situation with Memphis, if you 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:42.559 won't speak on. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:47.600 It, yeah, I mean even with that, I really didn't 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.120 want to speak on it. But people thought that like 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.720 they weighed me. That's just the process of them trying to, 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.200 I guess, do business or figure out the numbers on 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.760 the back end, in which that has nothing to do 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:02.280 with me. But what I can control this what I did. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.920 I reached out to Zach Pryor, I reached out to 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.960 my team, reached out to everyone prior and told them, 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.360 reached out to Adidas so that everybody's on the same accord. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.679 And yeah, just doing good business. That's something that I 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.520 always did throughout my whole career. Even though I fucked 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.199 up in the beginning by having some lessons I had 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:26.760 to learn. I got through that, and I'm all always 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.960 been optimistic, bro, as long as I got my breath. Bro, 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.160 I'm always gonna give my I know I got a chance, 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.600 and I feel like that way about anybody around me, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:40.720 So like, yeah, give them all, and you know, just 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.640 paying attention to where I'm at this time for sure. 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:45.880 Now listen, man, we're gonna talk about the career we 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.559 got to talk about the first time y'all met. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.560 You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.200 We got to talk about that. I'll be waiting for 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.599 this quick thirty. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.679 Listen, first time man, right just before I was even 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.880 like getting thirty because I did kill them. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.120 No word, get that. We get to that. We'll get 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.320 to that. We get to that. But I seen him 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:07.960 in eighth grade, going to eighth grade. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.240 He played for a team called Ferrari and it was 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.400 a team called Houston Hoops. We in the gas station 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.040 and they like you good, but they just talking to us, 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:18.040 like he not you nice? 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:22.720 This dude nice? But you ever seen Derrick Rose? I'm like, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.160 who that? And your name? 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.240 Like your name sound fake, like Derrick Rose, Like you 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.240 don't hear nobody's last name road like instead of jay 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:30.640 Len Rose. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.599 I was like, he called, like they call him the 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:33.800 Rose he called. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.240 So we go to the game, y'all happened to be 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.360 playing a team from Memphis. It was just a Memphis 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:44.400 Magic boom. You remember that, right, Memphis Magic. 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.800 That's crazy. I remember that. I do. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.480 And I'm like, they threw the first play, they threw 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.080 you alive, and you went, you ain't dunky, You just 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:57.840 finger rolled it in And I said, oh, ship, ain't 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.200 nobody else doing that? And they had one dude, they 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.520 might have beat y'all. Yeah, I would say they might 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.040 have beat you. I had one dude that was cooking. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:08.200 I can't remember the Georgia Georgia tech. I forgot his name, 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.320 Mae Miller. Yeah there, Yes, he had a good game. 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.000 He had a good game, but I'll never forget. I 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.320 was like, yeah, that nigga different, like this nigga killing, 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.440 but that nigga moving faster, jumping harder than everybody. And 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.959 my dad was like, we're gonna be reading about him. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.079 You know, my dad, yo, can be reading about him. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.000 He ain't supposed to be on this team. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.719 He was like, he you know, he older? 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:45.000 Gave you to me. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.079 I'm like, what the fuck? They like, yo? You you 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:48.880 a couple of months older than him? What the fuck? 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.200 Happy belated too? Yeah for sure? 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:56.320 Way about Mike Bruh and USA. We played sixteen or 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:57.240 seventeen USA. 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:03.120 Yeah, he my roommate his he. I had to look 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:04.520 at his I D. His I D was on the 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.719 table right he left the room. I'm like, he's so good, bro, 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.680 I gotta see if you your I looked at his 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:11.040 I D. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:18.640 Bro he was younger. Who Mike younger than us? 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:18.800 Bro? 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:24.360 Cold Bro, I'm like you this cold shout out to 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.920 Mike man, fact, keep your head up, nigga. 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.520 That's when I first met he played for I'm not 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:33.920 mad him, but that's first on my scene. 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:38.480 Yeah, but my first time I played against you. So 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.080 we had tone sticking you and you had braids. Then 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:46.240 you have gone thirty bro, and tone our coach he 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.600 uh tone the guy that was sticking you, his dad 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.000 was the coach and he will not get tone off 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.880 of him. So we're like, Bro, this whole game, Jeff 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.280 waring them out, Bro hitting the three step back tone, 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:04.600 lader movement, fucked up, got all that, Bruh. By the end, 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.320 did we beat We ended up beating him, But he 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.680 had a great game, and I'm like, bro, I got 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:10.320 a watch, dude. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:10.520 Bro. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.559 But and in our class, when you ran up against 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:20.240 niggas like that, you knew like uh it challenged you 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.600 in a way, though, Bro, When like I was when 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.840 we were talking the room about o Ja, yes, sir, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.240 when I seen for the first time bru that, he 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:32.760 changed my whole perspective of the game and like made 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.280 me feel like I wasn't working hard enough and my 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:39.040 whole chase for the ship was like chasing him. So 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.920 the old nigga you put that bathroom in my back 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.880 for sure. Juice juice for show. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.000 Nah, that nigga was different. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.520 I'll never forget when y'all got to because we went 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.080 to ab CD that year last year and you had 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:53.600 got hurt. 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:55.280 But the magic. You know. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.680 I don't forget ship. I don't ship the matchup with y'all. 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.080 But I'm from Indiana, so I know I seen you. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:03.800 I'm like, Oh, they don't know this nigga about to 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:04.840 kill that nigga. 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:05.960 So I'm like rooting. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.760 It's like, I don't know why I'm rooting for you, 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:10.960 but I'm rooting for you. Like, kill him and you 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.640 get hurt, so everybody like he hurt, he's scary's scared. 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.920 Then I see y'all in Vegas, I'm like, yeah, that 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:23.160 nigga ain't scared. Niggas tripping. They was going at it, bro, 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:24.880 They was having a game. It was one of the 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.160 best games I seen him at Eric against O J 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:27.680 and Bill. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.120 That shit's crazy. We chased him, bro. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.520 We used to go to tournaments looking for him, Like 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.240 really chased oj my nigga. That's that could be a 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.200 whole chapter of my ship, chasing him, going to tournaments. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.920 Stay in the game, but it's really it's us too, 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.800 by our coaches on bullshit too. We hit we were 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.880 them the same ship. I'm quiet, of course I'm in 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.120 the cut, but I'm on that too, nigga, like like 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.400 we we wanted that matchup, especially since we played them 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.880 like in seven or eight, seven or eight and he 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.320 he was on the whole other level and I'm never 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.240 forgot that, Like that's my baseline right there, Like yeah, 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:07.120 like I went back to Shah, I stayed. 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:07.960 In the gym, my nigga. 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:12.080 I I think my junior year we was coached to 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.760 playing them, but that Tyreek and all them was it 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.080 was in some tournament and the ship ended up like 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:21.040 not happening, and that Vegas one that we and we 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.320 had e J I'm like, come on, I was playing. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.760 I had nobody else that was really like a D 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.160 one player at that time on my team like that, 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.800 So he had three or four guys, but like play 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.480 against the Vegas on that stage and to know that 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.400 everybody like the alarms and ship was going on that 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:41.200 ship was nuts. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.920 But it was crazy, he said. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.240 We talked about we were talking to about our seven 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.480 him and like that's the craziest back where played them. 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.920 That's crazy. How'd you feel about him joining the team? 0:16:52.920 --> 0:17:00.000 Would you? Like? I love my niggas, but like we played. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.160 I played on the team with full of winners. Bro 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.479 We won even though we was undersized and all that, 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.320 we won a lot of games. 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:08.920 So when we got him. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.960 They like, hell yeah, like we got another dude that 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.639 can go and e J. We needed that because I 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.600 was scoring my brother. In high school, I played more 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.320 organized ship. I was playing the three like my freshman year, 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.359 so I don't really have the ball in my hands 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.439 because my man right there, Iran, he had the He 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.880 was the point that push you to the three juice, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:40.359 my nig we had like a system. So like even 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.760 when I came in, I played JV because the head 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:47.680 coach was like, nah, like we you gonna listen, You're 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.600 gonna buy by the rules. You you ain't bigger than 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.879 the system. And I went to the school only because ranking. 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.840 So I'm like all right, like, but we won and 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.760 I fucked around with the niggas. I'm like, all right, like, 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.119 it's love we winning and we low key we had 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.199 a beat y'all varsity niggas. Anyway, if y'all put it 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.400 when we used to practice and shit, that's how we felt. 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:09.440 So it was all love. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.480 But the system was the big man get majority of 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.399 the shots, and everybody else fine with whatever they gotta do, 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.760 like find your way throughout the game. Until like my 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.640 my brother started coaching and he like, man, I'm gonna 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.359 put you at the point. That was like my sophomore 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.680 junior year, put me at the point. I started going 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:29.800 back to school and they started to like let me 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.159 play with the ball a little bit more. So I'm like, 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.720 all right, I'm running up the court. They I don't 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.800 got to plan the system, noring, I'm getting libs and 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.600 all that, and now I'm pushing the point and everybody 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.280 else following me. So it opened up my game for real. 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:47.480 But at that school it was strictly just But I 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:51.439 fucked with it though, because Semeon groomed me into like 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.119 all of the guys that went there and groomed us 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:58.639 into like really being young men, learning like discipline, learning 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.800 that you just can't funk off, even though we were 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:05.240 like knuckleheads and all that shit, but like knowing that, man, 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.680 we have a we have a bond that's bigger than 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.320 justice basketball shit, and that's something that we hold on 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.040 to this day. We have picnics to this day at 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.199 our school, and that's rare for like a public school 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.040 to still be having picnics, to going on and all 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:20.400 that shit. 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:22.760 What made you choose twenty five and sent me. 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:26.440 On, Bean Wilson, I didn't choose it. All this shit 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.720 chose me. Bro everything that I've ever been in, I 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.200 lived in the unknown my whole life. All this shit 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.600 just came to me. I never wanted none of this 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:40.919 so fame, none of that, even hooping, my current or 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:45.080 my basketball dream. I didn't know about salaries and none 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.560 of that until like my my sophomore year, it clicked. 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.160 Like that may sound crazy, nigga, think about that your 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.080 sophomore year. It clicked like damn, I could change my 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:59.160 family life with this. All the way until my sophomore year, 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.400 I had your that's a pure love for the game. 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.399 I didn't look at nigga salaries. I didn't look at 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.680 NBA games like that. I ain't look at nigga outside. 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.680 I'm hooping. I'm somewhere playing because I had a pure 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:14.680 love sophomore year hit. I'm like, damn, I'm sending the 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.080 wrong man. I'm arguing with my mom at the time 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:20.320 and all that. You know, mom got that little ship 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:25.480 in high school, you look like and I'm arguing with her. 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:27.639 Then they clicked, like, man, I could change this ship 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.280 if I go to the league early. I'm looking at KD. Now, 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.840 I'm like, if KD leave, I'm gone. They changed the rule, 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.320 change the rule, change the rule. So I'm like, damn, 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.760 I gotta do a year. I have to do the year. 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.199 But I was, I ain't pay attention to none of 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:44.920 that ship until my sophomore year. 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:48.880 Another rule that you help a lot of people get 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:52.640 paid with the rolls rule, pioneer my boy, Like I said, 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:54.760 you look at that, and now look at everybody else's 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:55.479 benefiting for you. 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:59.160 Love. Yeah, I mean, that's that's one. 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.040 That's the only thing I care about, bro, even the 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.159 wave or the vibration that I'm in right now, like 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:11.199 I call it DZY seven twenty, like DZ stand ford, 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:14.840 don't forget about the zealous youth, and zealous means pursuit 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:19.200 of a great cause or great energy. So don't forget 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.560 about the use and pursuit of a great cause. So 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.400 like getting back and I feel like that was one 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:29.000 of our ways of like getting back, you know, like 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.280 me and my team, not only my team, but the fans, 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.439 because at that time, I'm I'm doing this shit, but 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:36.960 I'm not knowing why I'm creating. 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:38.560 You know what I'm saying. 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.640 I'm not going out to clubs, I'm not going to dinners. 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.920 I'm not doing your typical shit because I'm thinking that 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.480 you like you have to be a machine. I ain't 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.000 enjoyed none of that bro until like my fourth year, 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.280 So that rule was not only for me, It's for 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:56.440 everybody my next you know what I'm saying, Like. 0:21:58.000 --> 0:21:59.800 You're like before the view, could you're explain that real 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:00.359 for I'm saying. 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.359 You know what I'm saying some of our lazier followers 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:03.640 who didn't pay attention to that rule. 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:04.399 You know what I'm saying. 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.600 The rule is that you get thirty percent of the cup, 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.520 meaning that you get an extra thirty to forty million 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:16.280 if you hit the bench marks that's in your rookie 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:17.200 year contract. 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:18.200 So All Star. 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:22.760 Team, any award, going to the All Star Game, both 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:25.280 benchmarks will give you thirty percent more than a cup. 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.000 And yeah, at that time, I know what I was doing, 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:36.000 but I'm very grateful and very very thankful that like 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:37.280 the league allowed me to do that. 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:41.280 In facts, Jason tay them all them boys first, they 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:42.440 thank you. 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:44.480 For showing mellow by everybody. 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.440 Yes, I see, I see Jason. Jason Tatum told me 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:51.320 that straight up fuck with d Rostar. You remember he 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.320 remembery talking him like, Bro, he want to artograph, he 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:55.280 wanted he. 0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.080 Want a jerk. Bro. He was real like, brod bro 0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:57.800 is the greatest. 0:22:57.800 --> 0:22:57.960 Bro. 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.800 I was like, not to jump so far. We still 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:02.440 got to talk about the rest of his high school 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.439 and stuff. But like when people will see him when 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.800 he was on the team together, Bro, I used to 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.199 tell him, like, Bro, you have a colt following. This 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:13.520 ship is crazy like and he would come out and 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.800 he's so humble and chill and I just joke all day. 0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:20.640 I played. I play too much. I'll be like yo, 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:24.600 like y'all want my autograph and ship? They just be like, who. 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:28.280 Like this ship work? 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:31.359 So for the first time before we get back to 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.280 the hoop and stuff, but the first time I knew, like, 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.640 all right, I'm messing with a different type of like status. 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.360 Everybody asked you to go out in Miami. Uh, we 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.800 went out. You was in Minnesota. I begged you, we 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:44.200 out begged you to go out. 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:46.440 I'm come he was on it. You had you. 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:47.719 You know how you step on the back of your 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:49.880 shoes and ship, so you was standing on the back 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:50.320 of your shoes. 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:53.120 You're like, man, nah, I can't go. Bro. 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.600 I'm like, no, man, come on and please please, then 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:57.439 come on. It's gona be cool in the white goat. 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.119 We gonna we're gonna cover you up everything. Like I 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:01.600 ain't even that, bro, I'm just telling you I don't 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.119 really like going out. Finally you got tired of you like, 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:04.800 all right, I'm gonna go. 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:05.960 We walk in there. 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.359 We walking the club, were walking in the beginning part 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:09.440 and somebody said. 0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:10.320 Derek de Rose. 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:15.000 I said ship, I swear God, like two hundred people came. 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.760 I said, oh Ship. I looked at Wig. I said ship. 0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.200 We don't get this guy little hold up. Were getting the. 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:25.200 Club, and the dude was like, damn, we just gonna 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.520 put y'all back here. They just started standing outside the section. 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:28.560 He looked at me. 0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:30.760 He was like, I'm gonna go. We's in that mother 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:32.760 fucker ten minutes. I'm just gonna go. 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:34.600 Fuck. 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.920 So imagine that Brian won't nothing like it's let my fuck, 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.159 it's weird even doing like doing this, so like putting 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:45.959 myself in like weird quagmire situations. You feel what I'm saying. Formally, 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:49.679 I typically wouldn't I wouldn't pod or nothing like that, 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.640 but I fuck with y'all ship, and in order to grow, 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:56.480 you gotta put yourself in those uncomfortable situations, so like 0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:01.000 coming here or even talking like, y'all don't know how 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:02.199 much this means to me. 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:03.040 You know what I'm saying. 0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.600 I love you come in and express this ship and 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.560 express like, uh, just how I feel where I'm at 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:10.160 at this time. 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:14.119 So I appreciate your niggas, now have you here, but 0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:15.440 I to have. 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.480 You here I always use anytime somebody playing the patients 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.439 and listen off the radar and I'll be hitting niggas 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:29.840 with the ruby Rose, the Rose, the roues, whoever it for. 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:36.160 So I got a rose JT. 0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:45.440 If you want to autograph, I got. 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.679 What the illness, But listen, Like I said, we got 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.080 so much to talk about, but I want to bring 0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.040 it back to your days. It's teammates, man, Yeah, obviously 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:58.919 I playing to get each other growing up. 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:00.800 How was it that the first time I look up Minisoda, Man, 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:02.359 I love Bro. 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:10.200 I mean, let me let me talk, because Bro, everybody 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.399 that probably met up no bull and ship, they just 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.399 know that he a good dude, and his energy that 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.920 he brings to the locker room is uh. You can't 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:23.280 compare it to nobody brother like he Uh, the vibration 0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:26.360 he brings. He's always talking ship, even though it made 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:30.240 rub people different that didn't grow up that way, niggas 0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:31.879 that grew up that way that you need that in 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:35.000 the locker room. You need motherfucker's joking playing. But when 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:37.760 it's time to go, he was always ready and I 0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:42.239 knew you can who do too though, So uh just 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:46.920 having them around, having uh uh TIBs, fuck with him 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.960 having uh cat he used to fuck with cats so much, 0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:55.840 but saying motherfuckers needed to hear. You were saying truthful ship. 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.040 You know what I'm saying, and when motherfuckers were scared 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:00.600 to say it. I'm new to the team, so I'm 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.439 just trying to get the vibe on the team. You 0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.960 saying exactly what motherfuckers needed to hear, and people respected that. 0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:07.960 So it was always love. 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:12.119 Just having Jeff around It surprised me too, when like 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.080 you start coming over to the crib because you know, 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:17.280 niggas normally don't hang out with each other, Like, yeah, 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.040 it's like on some fake ship. So like having you 0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.399 start coming over. Then you came over the night that 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.440 I don't believe in coincidences either. You came over the 0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.359 night that I had fifty in my brother's knows that 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.520 my brother was in the kitchen and drinking and ship. 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.399 No, I mean, I don't know if you'll want to 0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:44.639 talk about that right now. Gotta yeah, I wasn't what 0:27:44.640 --> 0:28:00.800 it's crazy all that ship? Why yo, that would be no. 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.120 But I'll mean that's a little layer of the story 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.720 because you still got so many years Becuz he he 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:10.080 gave me a chance. I played against him, and I 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:11.840 kind of I'm musa speak on the Minnesota moment, but 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:13.960 I want to talk about the Bulls moment when we 0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:15.440 played him in the pay of. 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.800 The playoffs and he spared me. 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:20.560 So before we get to the fifty, I'm gonna tell 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.480 you when he could have had fifty at night another time. 0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.040 Oh, you talking in the. 0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:28.159 Playoffs Mother's Day and him first, I remember, forget Bro, 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.080 we having the first quarter, were going back and forth 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.800 it's a duel, and I'm like, in my head, I'm 0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:36.119 out here dueling with the MVP. What the fucking But 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.400 I'm talking shit. It's the first game in Atlanta. So 0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:41.920 I'm like, yeah, motherfucker life. And he like he ain't 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.640 saying nothing. He just like like looking at me, like 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.000 I'm guarding he go by. He dunk one time. I said, 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:52.000 oh shit, crowd go. I'm like, damn, Atlenta yah, y'all 0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.520 the trip for me, Like what the fuck? Going back 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.200 and forth. Second quarter we had like thirteen fourteen second quarter. 0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.960 I think I scored two points. He scored like another nine. 0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:03.320 I'm like, damn, go to the locker room. I'm like, Jamal, 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.280 you can switch off on him. I was like, hell no, 0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.680 you keep going. You're doing good. Man, Like you guarding them. 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.200 I'm like, I forgot that. At thirty. 0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.640 They're like, don't worry about it, keep going, playing good. 0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.480 Get to the third quarter. I'm looking like, man, I 0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:18.520 ain't scoring no more. This motherfuck is still going. It's 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:20.719 starting to blow us out. He gets what you had, 0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:24.320 like forty four yeah, forty four yeah. So it's like 0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:26.320 what it was like five six minutes left in the 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.600 fourth Mall said the same. I let you got that 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.760 nigga looked at I never forget. I'm like I had 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:34.720 like twenty one. I'm like looking at him. I'm still 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.440 trying to guard him hard. And you know how a 0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:38.880 nigga kind of like relax, like not tell you relax, 0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:40.320 but kind of like it's over. 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:45.080 Bro. The nigga kind of like come getting me tips. 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:49.400 I said, fuck him. I look at the score, but 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:54.280 I said he ain't want to get fitty. I said 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.000 game four no, fuck that. 0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.320 I was so mad. I said he spared me. 0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.520 I was like I went to the locker room and 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.800 Smooth was like, man, you know, it's just one game. 0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:03.040 Dog. 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.360 I was like, nah ma Hedmnar had fifty. He's like, 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:09.880 nigge think you can stop him, even play shit like 0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.520 only pas and Nigga got hurt, Like you did good, nigga. 0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:18.719 Shut up. You're right, JA woke tough ast series it was, 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:20.800 But you spared me? Why you spare me? I didn't 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:21.479 spare you, bro. 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:24.120 You know at that time, I wasn't even thinking about 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.479 I don't be thinking about scoring like that. I'd be 0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:31.680 really in the game, bro, like every because my mindset 0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:35.040 was if I didn't score like we was gonna fall back. 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.280 So I wasn't even keeping up with the numbers like that. 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:39.120 When I was playing, I just knew I had to 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:40.720 affect the game in a positive way. 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.800 This when I really was like, fuck you, you hit a floater, right, 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.000 I could tested this ship out, this monfucker. I was 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.360 playing hard as hell. Y'all, don't play defense. I'm playing 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.560 hard as hell. I'm like, he can't embarrass me. He 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.680 hit a floater, threw it up and caught that bit. 0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.959 I said, hold on, he caught it. 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:05.720 After that, Louis I said, I said, he's playing around 0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:08.720 funny Joe. 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.680 He getting ready for Miami. Okay, cool? Cool. 0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.320 I was hot like I was thirty a hot. My 0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.760 brother like, bro, you're getting your chance. It's all good. 0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.800 You ain't playing bad. I'm like, bro, he embarrassing me. 0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.520 Bro Like, like, Bro, he embarrassed everybody the MTP. Then 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.840 I thought about it. I was like, you're right, I'm good. 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.440 I'm just try to score now. But I remember that 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:31.680 your career too, though. 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:31.880 Bro. 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.760 Yeah, having against him, bro, like, just to even have 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.640 some good moments against him at that time, they helped 0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.600 my career. But I took that to say I seen 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.520 you could have got fifty. Then I seen you get fifty. 0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:46.560 So that's where I was going with. 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.440 I'm like, damn, I seen where he could have had fifty. 0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:49.200 I was a part of that. 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:50.880 And then to be a part of that moment to 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.640 see you actually get fifty and for you to say, yeah, 0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.920 I'm going forward tonight, I'll never forget. You said you 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.400 playing to night. I was like, nah, I I ain't 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.320 fucking with it. He said, oh, I'm going forward. I said, 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:06.800 what you going for? I started. 0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:07.600 I was like, what you're going for? 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.360 He's like, nah, I'm going for it. I was like, 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.000 what I'm getting it? I'm getting fifty. 0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:15.880 It's crazy. Damn. I went to Josh Cochi getting fifty 0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:17.240 tonight take. 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.840 Jumbo and nobody's playing, and I was like, damn, he 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:25.000 gonna get fifty. And you know Rudy Gobert, nim defensive 0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.239 player of the Year, all that ship. I'm like, we're 0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.200 gonna have to kill these niggas man that first quarter. 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:34.040 Now you I hurt my ankle. I'm jumping up and down. 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:36.760 Ran. I never forget. 0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.600 Ryan was like, you could play, worry about that ship, 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:44.720 learn about this ship and he just started going crazy 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.240 in the whole game, like we just watching and I'm 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.040 just like this dude is amazing. And it was like, 0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.400 you know me playing before you got hurt and stuff. 0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:56.480 I'm like this, this is him, like he always got 0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:59.400 this and see him going crazy. Then you hit Rudy 0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:03.520 with the move, finished the lay. Then they started getting emotional, 0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:08.040 like the nigga, everybody on the team just like, damn, bro, 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.760 he worked so hard. I'm like that, we're about doing 0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.040 the game. Then he got emotional, and then I look 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:14.960 at the nigga because I know, I'm like, I fuck 0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:15.680 with the cigare ear day. 0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.480 I'm like, no, this means some ship, Like I start. 0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.240 Fuck man, I'm a nigga, bro, I don't. I'm from 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.240 the west side of that. Bro. I ain't about to 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.920 be crying for no nigga scoring no points. They want 0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:29.960 fucking to hit me out the fuck. 0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:33.200 Work by did the game go over, I'm like, ship, 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.400 I'm about to be a party in locker room. Fuck this, 0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:37.560 I'm gonna turn this mother fuck up. He do the interview. 0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:40.520 I didn't even hear it, but I remember he was emotional. 0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.760 I remember seeing it on TV. Went on back there 0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.560 I'm like, give me my phone. I remember I record 0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.160 that shit he walked in, they throw the water on it. 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.080 Then I send it to your girl. Like it's gotta 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:52.640 be a moment, y'all. Never forget like I was. That 0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:53.480 ship was hard. 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.200 I was like, why that game though, Po, Why that game? 0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:57.240 What made you? 0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:58.440 You know what I mean? I don't know. 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.640 It was just I just felt something right when he 0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.080 told me he wasn't playing. I seen Jimmy one't playing. 0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.760 I'm like, all right, that's what. It's just the opportunity, 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:11.680 and every every nigga in the league that's not playing 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:16.279 wish they could have that opportunity. In fact, everybody, bro, shit, 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.160 you look at niggas that's not that in the league. 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.759 You look at it right now. Just give me that 0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:23.560 one chance. I could go out there and I could 0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:27.000 at least shoot fifteen to twenty field goals and see 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:30.279 what's gonna happen. Yeah, and once I get rolling, you 0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.719 really gonna see what's what's gonna happen, you know what 0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:36.000 I'm saying. I just felt like that moment was like 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.960 just my moment, especially going through everything that like I 0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.160 went through, went through the little shit, I was still 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:45.200 going through like injuries and yeah, like I said, Bro, 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.560 I'm just living in it. Bro, Like the ship that 0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:51.520 be going on, I can't really explain because I'm in it. 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.520 But all I could do is like prep myself for 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.040 the moments. Like when I was in basketball, I was 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.920 prepping myself for that moment. Now that I'm switching over 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:01.480 to this, like my. 0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.840 Sh'S gonna be like y'all ship one day, six seven 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:04.520 cameras and. 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.359 Bro, you know, oh yeah, you gonna do a part. 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.920 Not the part I'm trying to get into directing, bro, 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.800 oh yeah, better, but directing telling like real stories. 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:16.359 That's book. 0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.759 But I mean y'all, like everything that y'all saw though 0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:24.240 the commercial or the video that's me Maddie and that's random. 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.759 All of us came together, got that ship together along 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.360 with Carlisle and Mark, along with the other guys that 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.960 was a part of the team. Like but we created 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:39.040 that that moment, so you know, prepping ourselves for something 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:40.200 huge for sure. 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:41.879 You know we're there to support. Shouts to the team 0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:42.279 as well. 0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.440 Can I say one thing before we get back to 0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.080 the because this is my nigga, I'm just high. I 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:50.239 ain't gonna lie, but I'll never forget this. When I 0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:54.400 was like this nigga different, like y'all know me, I'm 0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.680 they know me. No, it's all good. 0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.840 It's good. They know I'm wild, y'all know me. 0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:04.719 I became a man in Atlanta, so my perspective was 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:05.440 a little different. 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.000 Like shit, I was going out, my team was going out. Everything. 0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.680 So when I came to Indiana, did I get the Minnesota? 0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:15.080 My mind still like, man, all right, we had a 0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.120 good practice, we had some game, we hoped, but like 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:17.920 where were gone? 0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:18.440 You know? 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:23.440 So I remember one night John Lucas called me. I'm like, 0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:25.520 I'm thinking. Luke called me, like, yo, where we at? 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:27.880 He called me like, man, you should come in the gym. 0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:33.479 I'm like, nigga, no, right, you talking about going on gym? 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.480 Man. I was like, bro, I'm here for all that. 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.120 He like, man, you tripping, bro, come in here. 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:41.279 I come in there, and he like, he like text 0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.319 me like he rows in here, and I come in. 0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.280 I remember with your whole family, you had your daughter 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:48.680 in the stroller. Your girl was sitting on there on 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.600 the stroller. You were shooting and you had shot damn 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:55.160 there five hundred shots. And I remember because you had 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:56.680 to end up hurting your elbow. 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.560 Yeah, So I'm like, how many shots this nigga? 0:36:59.600 --> 0:36:59.880 Shoot? 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:04.200 Jay look like he gonna be ready? What's the fuck? 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.160 He gonna be ready? And I'm like, and we about 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:08.960 to play in the playoff. He's about to play in Houston. 0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:10.759 This is when you first came to the team, like, 0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:12.880 hes gonna be ready, don't trip, he gonna be ready. 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.960 I'm like, well, Ship, he shooting fire and shot I funk, 0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:17.440 gonna shoot fifty from the thirties. 0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.360 Getting them up. So I'm laughing, and Ship I'm colder. 0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.640 I'm joking and Ship and were getting the playoffs and 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.719 I'm like, I'm going to Tips, like, man, this nigga 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:28.960 gotta play like he was having me getting the game 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:30.759 he killed. I'm like, no, no, he gotta come on, man, 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:35.040 he gotta get in the game. Earlier, TIBs like, no, fuck, 0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:37.960 who do we take out? I'm like, I don't give 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:39.279 a fuck, take him take him out? 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.920 He like, how do I tell him? Like, nigga, Tips 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:44.760 is shoot, He's like everybody in all. 0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.360 Then that nigga just starts saying fuck it, come on, 0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:52.120 I swear, come on. Yeah, I watched this nigga buildings. Bro, 0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.520 he was that's fire and the next year with you 0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:56.000 shot forty from three forty. 0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:57.759 But you assistant with that too. 0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.000 Though, right when I got to the team, you probably 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.320 remember you, Hey, that's you for that bread. 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.760 I have money. You don't understand it though. 0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:12.480 When you like I, the league ain't nothing but specialists 0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.960 right in facts. So when you are aren't labeled with 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.440 shoot like that, that shit can last for like a 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.200 long time until you beat that ship. 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.160 You got to you gotta beat that, you know what 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:23.879 I'm saying. Allegation, Come on, man. 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:28.440 So for motherfuckers that know how to shoot, niggas from Indiana, 0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.120 they know how to shoot when they one years old 0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:31.640 teaching they. 0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:35.839 Formed, They and their crib elbow all that. All y'all 0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:36.560 shots the same. 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.719 I have not one person growing up to tell me 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:43.000 my shot, like how to fix my mechanics or show 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.560 me mechanics for my jump shot. I figured this shit 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:49.880 out solely by myself. No basketball camps couldn't afford it, 0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:52.879 none of that. It's solely me being in the park 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.880 by myself testing out ship and all that stick or 0:38:56.360 --> 0:39:00.359 you know, after experimenting and that shit stuck. But so 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.520 to like go to a team and to be cool 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:06.640 with a motherfucker, to be in a shooting game with 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.399 him and don't take it personal if they beat you. 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.440 I'm not crazy because I want to take it. Like 0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.400 you know what I'm saying, But it takes uh to 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:17.840 go one on one or to the challenge of motherfucking 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.719 one and to push yourself in practice when you ain't 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:21.520 know nothing about it. 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.399 I'm shooting with you. You don't know damn feelings. All yeah, 0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.160 you get what I'm saying. Walking around shooting, playing talking 0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.439 to people. I'm trying to make every mother. 0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:36.279 I'm gonna teach your show your I want to show 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.759 your ass. I'm in forty this. I'm probab to stop 0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:41.560 shooting because I was like this nigga started to beat me. 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:47.040 Man quit But I'm just like, he adn't take he 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:51.560 was taking a light because he's playing. He always playing, 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.400 all right, But if Tims ain't on that, he ain't 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:56.319 on that. 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:57.160 That story of my life. 0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:00.239 I just want to God br so like to to 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:03.640 actually challenge a motherfucker that's a shooter. I took pride 0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:05.880 it up even though you didn't know about this, but 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.600 now I've seen it. Then when the next year. I'll 0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:11.120 never forget. I started, like we started starting together at 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.839 the beginning of the year, and I'm like, I'm going 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:15.719 on fast work. I'm starting the ball to him in 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.800 the corner and he fired, and I'm like this Nigga 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:21.320 really a shooter. Like he running the lane, min You 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.160 like Nigga the MVP. He great with the ball, like 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:26.680 I should be running the lane. 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:27.000 Nigga. 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:28.839 He like, get it, get it, get it, taking off 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:32.879 to the corner and firing threes, and I'm laughing. I'm 0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:37.360 like this nigga shooter, Like what is Nigga spotting up forty? 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.799 Shooting forty from the three? And I'll never forget. I 0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:42.880 was like, Nigga shooting forty. He was like, you know, 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:44.759 he a student of the game, Like Nigga gotta be 0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:46.160 a shoot to three man. 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:49.359 They paying niggas shoot the three, and I. 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:50.360 Remember shoot was sweet. 0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:53.440 He was like I remember everything. Bro. 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.120 He was like, I'm a I'm aa shoot forty. He 0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.520 was like, I'm going to get that bag, bro. Then 0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:03.719 I'm done, sir. And I was like, nah, you're gonna leave. 0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.520 I'm in my head like he about to leave. Minnesotau 0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:07.920 ain't the way, he's starting over me. 0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.360 At the time, niggas was telling. 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.759 Me in the crowd get him off the I'm like, damn, 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:19.600 that's my nigga. 0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:30.720 I gotta help me. He got so bad, my nigga. 0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:32.840 I started telling niggas like, do you want to start 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:37.920 because it's easier, nigga, you gonna go off the bench, bro. 0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.680 But I give him credit, Nigga, I'll never forget. He 0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.120 told me like, and then we got to get back 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:45.719 to where it started. But then he told me, he 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:49.440 was like, teem, you gotta find your niche cause nigga, 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.600 you know, we ain't gonna be starters the whole time, 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.520 Like coming off the bench, they gonna pay, they need 0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:55.360 somebody to kill off the bench. They gonna find a 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.160 new row. And now I never he did not want to start. 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.040 I remember with the team. I said, Tims, I am 0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:05.279 sick of hearing these When you start him, he was like, 0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:06.200 who am gonna start him over? 0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.120 I'm like, nigga me. 0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:10.759 He was like, you're getting paid. I'm like, I don't 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.120 give a fuck. I think I'll play better off the bench. 0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:16.720 He was like no, no, and I was starting together 0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:18.640 and he was like, I could do that. Who we 0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:20.880 take out and we start trying to figure it out whatever. 0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.279 But I just remember when you said that. So when 0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:26.040 you left, I went to Ryan, I said I wanna 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.399 come off the bench because I was like, I'm about 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.239 to do exactly what he did. I was like, I 0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:32.960 want to come off the bench because you told me, like, Bro, 0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.279 we ain't gonna be starters for the rest of our career. Bro, 0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:37.279 you gotta figure it out and we about to fill 0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:39.839 these new roles. I was like, I'm about to take 0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:41.880 his role. And I started doing everything he did. I 0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:45.320 started stretching. I ain't do none of that ship, phone, 0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.160 roller ball, and ship. I'm like that nigga, he figured 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.839 it out. Fuck that I'm doing that. Ship did quite 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:51.400 work out, but. 0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.399 It was too late. Was broke down. 0:42:56.719 --> 0:43:01.640 I was as I had your knee and that was it. 0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:03.120 Yeah, well I had ankles. 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.400 I had certainly on my ankle, Yeah, but then I 0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:06.919 had my patella was gone. 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.600 I ain't got I'm bone on bone now it's over with. 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:14.640 It's over, and ad ain't worth a quarters. It was 0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:15.319 gone last year. 0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:20.120 It was it was gone my last year in Minnesota. 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:21.520 So I was bone on bone. 0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:24.040 But I was just playing and then the last piece 0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:27.759 of piece of my Pateller tour. And when I was 0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.720 in Milwaukee, Uh. 0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:32.960 It was over with that bone on bone. 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:37.520 That's something. It was over once you go there for sure. 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:38.359 Just doing that as well. 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.640 Huh yeah, how are you doing that? How are you 0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:40.960 doing that? 0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.560 He's different, Bro, Shout out to him. Shout out to him. Man, listen, 0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:46.560 you have so many crazy accomplishments. Man, we got to 0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:47.200 speak on something. 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:47.440 Man. 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:49.439 Obviously we got to start one of the crazy ones. 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.920 MVP, youngest MVP ever having one the craziest season the 0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.920 NBA in the conference where Lebron James was like, how 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.759 was that season for you? Because obviously you know what 0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.960 I'm saying. You came in the league going crazy. How 0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:01.680 how crazy was that particular season for you? 0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:01.879 Bro? 0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:07.080 It was a blur. It was a blur. I remember 0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:10.680 at that time. My whole mindset was like keep it moving. 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.680 So you know, in hindsight, you always wish that you 0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:15.560 would cherished some. 0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.560 Of the days a little bit more. But like me 0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:19.600 looking in the past and shit, but. 0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.600 What I was telling y'all at that time, I didn't 0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.400 enjoy anything, Bro. I didn't go out to eat with 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.680 my family or friends like that, No movies like that, 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:33.920 none of that, bro, no concerts because I was totally 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:37.920 locked in too thinking that I had to follow like 0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:43.440 Kobe was doing, thinking cold as, not enjoying itself, not 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:45.719 going on vacas, not doing any of that. So I 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.600 felt tricked, like in a way whenever at the time 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:51.600 I felt that way, Like my fourth year I ended 0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.279 up going to the Philippines. When I saw him like relaxed, 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.279 I'm like, oh, you motherfucker was tricking me this hole time. 0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:02.440 I dedicated three three years of thinking you didn't do ship, bro, 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.719 and to see you actually out here just chilling like 0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:10.640 it kind of fucked me up. But like I couldn't 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:13.120 take it personally because even though I was like admiring 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:18.279 them like that, so uh, that year it was just fun, man, 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:24.399 something that you can't explain, like my being in shy 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:29.360 at the going number one and being the point guard 0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:32.600 of the team. Like you got the rocking your hand 0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.680 and you got your guys like my guys being around 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.600 to sixth grade on the baseline. 0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.120 Yeah talking or you know what I'm saying. 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:44.560 So the whole time, like that's something that yeah, but 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:46.719 we did it right though. Men in fact, we made 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:50.080 sure that the ups and downs that we had in Chicago, 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:52.640 no matter what it was, we could go back there 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:56.480 and still like do business or whatever it is with them. 0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:59.200 So it was a blast over for sure. 0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:00.719 Man, both of you said just being you know what 0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.160 I'm saying, point guard, the man in your city, playing 0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.120 for your hometown, Like, what's that feeling like, Like we 0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:07.520 talked about it, but what's that feeling growing up in Chicago? 0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:09.759 Like all right, I saw MJ hitters. Now they look 0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:13.480 at me like that. It's pressure. That's why it's a 0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:15.520 lot of pressure. I can imagine. 0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:17.440 A lot. 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:19.920 I got to talk for Chicago because a lot of 0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:22.200 people when they talk about Chicago, they always mentioned like 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.680 the badt shit, So I got to mix it up. 0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:32.640 MJ wouldn't be MJ if he was if he played 0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:36.680 anywhere else but Chicago for his pro career, he would 0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:40.160 have been a great player anywhere else, but in Chicago. 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.600 He became the black Cat. He became MJ in Chicago 0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.080 just off the strength of the culture that's in Chicago, 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.680 and it's coaches everywhere, like with the basketball coach is 0:46:53.760 --> 0:47:02.239 just strong, and that the expectation of like what you're 0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.360 gonna do. We've seen you. We see niggas like you 0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:06.319 back in the sixties. Are you supposed to have been 0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.560 like elevated the game or doing something? They're like, what's next? 0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:12.560 MJ one them three? I guarantee you. 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.759 He had people in this corner like, there's no way 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.640 they're gonna let you win. You just went on vac. Niggas, 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:21.279 you ain't gonna let you come back and win three more. 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:25.319 I bet you can't. That's what niggas in shot telling them, 0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:28.000 I bet you can't. They talk to the wrong one. 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:30.919 I bet you he what one? I bet you can't 0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:33.640 win another one. But tell you, guys, look, I'm gigging 0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:33.920 them up. 0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:42.680 That's yeah, yeah, gigging them up, just off the strength. 0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:45.080 But that's what I meant by the culture though, like 0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:49.440 being there, that's what I felt. Even though people my 0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.319 guys never came up to me and was like, man, 0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:53.680 you gotta kill this motherfucker this game. I felt it. 0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:56.480 Though they ain't have to say nothing. They'll say little ship. 0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:59.279 They all be in the kitchen or something. Man, what 0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:01.200 try I heard what cropped throwing the party to night, 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.319 not saying it to me, but they just talking but 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:10.440 making sure that I hear like what going on me? 0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:15.800 I was that nigga I'm going out to kill from. 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:19.600 I'm listening to. 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.560 Even though they ain't bringing it to me, they they 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:23.520 staying it so that I just could hear it. 0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:29.920 I'm like, all right, so is this nigga fuck r 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:31.480 forty of me? 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:34.960 But everybody always speaking on like you being the hardest 0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:36.600 person that they had to go out like who is 0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:36.880 you O? 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:40.640 Person like that? You was like, damn, what's crazy killing? 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:42.920 But I got to sleep for him. 0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:45.600 I had a problem down damn there with everybody bro, 0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:50.000 especially in TIB's system defensive system, where like at that 0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:54.359 time we icing everything. He if one person go over 0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:59.080 the top basketball terms, he beat you and over the 0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:01.080 top of the pick and roll like he now you're 0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.760 chasing them like behind them and shit if that happened, 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:08.200 he like it was just hard. But I'm a pure 0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.640 point so I hate point guards that feel like they 0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:14.239 are about to control the whole game. So scoring, if 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.799 you scoring, I don't care about scoring like that, even 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:19.640 though like the NBA forced me into scoring. I never 0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:23.560 was the leading score on any of my elementary time, 0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:25.959 probably was the leading scorer, but high school somebody else 0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:28.920 was college CD I was, so I never was the 0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:32.720 leading score I just found my spots and I found 0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:34.479 the way to make it look good. 0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:37.200 But I'm a pure. 0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:40.919 Point at hard So I hate point guards that don't 0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:43.920 care about scoring like a rondough like this nigga, like 0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:46.480 they could fall into just the system of just playing 0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:50.319 the right way. Like no, I'm in the least try 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:53.919 to get in your head. People don't. Yeah, scoring ain't 0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:57.359 really that much to me because I winning the game 0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:01.640 is more than me. I heard one of my O g's, 0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:05.600 Kurt Heinrich, say like after somebody gave him like forty 0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:07.640 or fifty, he's saying this ship out like out loud, 0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.640 but I'm just hearing them. Were walking in the hallway 0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:14.160 we won, and he was like, ha, that motherfucker just 0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:19.600 scored fifty points for no reason. Yeah, that ship hit home. Well, 0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:22.200 Like that's why after I scored that fifty, I was 0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:26.759 so happy that one nigga like you got the win, bro, 0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:28.759 like fifty or sick of whatever it is if you 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:32.759 ain't getting that. Dup At the end, raced up the fact. 0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:37.239 That wasn't jed in high school, I mean college. In college, 0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:47.440 I was I get some cool dro that fucking Jenny 0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:48.319 like for. 0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:55.719 By the league though he adjusted community from but everybody 0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.759 liked that in the high school college you getting to it. 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:00.960 That's how you got to the league. That's what these 0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:01.440 young kids. 0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:04.839 They don't be looking at these players or thinking like, oh, 0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:06.640 you were bum because you on the bench. 0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:08.839 Bro, did you see this player? He was in high 0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:11.520 school of college. That's how he got seen. Bro, you 0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:12.160 know what I'm saying. 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:14.680 For sure, man, you brought one of my favorite college 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.640 players of all time. My boy cdyall, y'all was going gray, 0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:20.920 I have to see y'all man. Yeah, no, that's the fact. 0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:25.040 See the what we got, and I gotta tell this 0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:28.160 short story CD. So he tried to hold me right. 0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:32.320 So it's me, him and Tone in the gym. We're 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:36.200 there for summer uh, summer school. We shouldn't have course 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.799 shots for hundred one hundred dollars a shot though at 0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:42.040 the time we both flig and we don't got it 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:46.040 like that. So every shot, really, you know, that's a 0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:50.839 shot in college. So uh, he hit a shot and 0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:55.040 I shot right behind him, and he said that my 0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.240 foot was on the line, and he tried to stand 0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:59.120 on me like you know his voice. 0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:04.520 You know yeah, And I'm like I am bag. I'm like, no, nigga, no, 0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:07.520 you got no one no matter of fact. He shot 0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:08.880 the shot and his foot was on the line and 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.319 I made him shoot over and he was surprised that 0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.960 I said something, and he sucked with me for saying something. 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:17.200 Like damn, you don't let me hold you. And I'm like, no, nigga, 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:17.920 I ain't going for. 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:19.839 Check. 0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:22.520 I gotta tell another story. So this when I really 0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:26.439 knew that I made the right decision. So once again, 0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:31.520 summer school were there. Joey Dorsey ended up going to 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:34.120 against the boot concert video sheet. 0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:43.840 Shout on sure he was in the. 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.520 Right to the legend, man, all right to the legend. 0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:58.359 He missed the run, right, he missed the whole run. 0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:02.320 I'm thinking nothing of it. I get to uh the house. 0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:05.719 Joy come to the crib. He thinking everything cool, Cee. 0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:09.760 I ain't talking to him at all. He started cursing 0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:12.960 Joey out so bad, bro, like, man, you let them 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.759 mother fucking team down. That's some whole ass talking to 0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:18.279 him crazy. And you know, Joy big, I'm thinking that 0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:20.480 they're about to fight because it's my first own nor 0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:23.840 I'm like, yeah, I just got here, joy respected it 0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:25.840 started crying. 0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:30.080 Bro, I said, I made the right choice. Yeah, these 0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:31.200 niggas care about winning. 0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:34.560 Bro, Like you mad at the nigga for there's some 0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:36.600 summer ship, you know what I'm saying. But and there 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:39.200 was some ship that we were running, not col we 0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.359 we set that ship up or he set it up 0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:43.839 and the nigga didn't show up. And once I've seen that, 0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:45.799 I'm like, this is gonna be a good ass year. Yeah, 0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:48.080 older niggas, that's on the same page. 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:50.960 I'm like, yeah, the hell of a run, the hell 0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:51.759 of a year. Bro. 0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:55.359 Like, do you remember anything from that game? That Championship game? 0:53:56.880 --> 0:54:02.880 Shot? Shot real? That was a tough shot. 0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:07.319 The only thing I yeah, the fireworks, bro, After you 0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:10.160 leave the court, the shit be burning you, bro, or 0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:12.400 while as you walking off, I wanted to fight somebody. 0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:16.240 That's the only thing I remember walking as a loser. 0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:19.479 The fireworks you see on TV that shit come down. 0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:21.560 A lot of people be getting burned in that ship. 0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:23.960 I didn't know that the ship was burning me, and 0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:26.000 that ship was making me so mad as I walked 0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:28.880 off the court, knowing that I blew the game. That 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:31.359 was the only thing I remember for real, because after 0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:32.480 that it was straight lead. 0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:37.799 Yeah, what was like when you was like, you know, 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:41.800 I seen a video documentary you on, you know, Chicago 0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:44.680 getting the first pick or Miami or whatever. What was 0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:46.960 it like that feeling when you've seen Chicago got that 0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:47.560 first pick? 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:48.560 Like damn. 0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:51.719 So yeah, we were in LA at the time, and 0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.759 right when I seen that, they were like one of 0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.640 the last ones. I kind of knew then, like what 0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:01.799 it was, even though people didn't in the room didn't 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.120 say it. I'm like, damn, Chicago seven percent chance. I'm like, 0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:07.680 we gonna end up winning that shit, And yeah, that's 0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:11.160 going back to the crib, Like, yeah, everybody got the 0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:14.040 experience that one time, at least one time. Yeah, Like, 0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:15.839 don't you know how everybody was saying you should play 0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:17.680 New York at least one time as a as a 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:20.919 hooper just to feel an atmosphere. I feel the same 0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:24.319 way about people playing at home. If you could, you 0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:27.040 might as well, like at least get that experience. You know, 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:29.359 I leaned on you. 0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:32.759 You don't even know, but I left Indiana to come 0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.680 to Minnesota, right, So when you came on the team, 0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:39.640 I'm like, damn, because I hate no shade to Minnesota. 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:43.320 I love Minnesota cool, but I hated leaving the crib, 0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:45.440 you know what I mean, Like, damn, it was everything 0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:45.920 I wanted. 0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:46.520 I'm at the. 0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:49.960 Crib, my homeboys, everybody be at the game after I 0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:53.440 lead the game, even my family all that. So when 0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.480 I came, when you came to Minnesota, it was like, 0:55:56.320 --> 0:55:58.600 it's somebody I'm about to lean on because he experienced 0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:01.320 what I experienced, like he had to lead a crib before. 0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:04.000 So like that's why I started, Like you probably ain't know, 0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:06.239 I started gravitating Tod you like, bro, you won't shoot 0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:06.759 you want to do that? 0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:08.799 And you like cause I just want to. 0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:11.399 Get like, damn, how did that nigga get like through 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.360 leaving Chicago? Like you was every Like I was nowhere 0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:16.640 near what you was Indiana, but you are the Chicago 0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:19.680 Like I was good, but I played one year, he 0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:24.239 was their MVP, high expectations, showed it up. I'm like, man, 0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:26.640 how he get through leaving the crib? So I just 0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:29.400 wanted to like, I'm like, man, how he worked? What 0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:31.759 is mental like? And then I start seeing you read 0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:35.000 books and ship and it's everything that I never even thought, 0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:37.680 like I'm thinking you like like not like me, but 0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:40.040 I knew you was like, damn you from the Midwest. 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:43.240 He probably joking clown and clowning and you joking clown. 0:56:44.000 --> 0:56:46.680 You were super like dedicated to ship. And I was 0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:49.000 just like, all right, let me not fuck up his 0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:55.400 dedication because I'm type of that, hey, bro, you try 0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:57.520 to get some bullshit. And he was just like and 0:56:57.600 --> 0:57:00.840 he kind of like made me start like appreciating the 0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:02.880 craft again because I was kind of like, damn, I 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:05.360 got paid, I'm cool, my family straight. 0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:06.319 But then I seen you. 0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.040 I'm like, and he's super cool, Like he got paid, 0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:11.799 he don't even gotta be doing this really, but he 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.680 appreciating the craft, and it made me like start like, 0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:17.840 hold on, let me stop playing. Let me like remember 0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:19.160 why I love hooping. 0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:20.680 Bro. 0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:23.480 Going into the league though, nah, nigga, I was like 0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:27.840 everybody else this ship. It takes time, Bro, takes growth, 0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:30.840 Bro to get I went through what I went through. 0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:34.440 I tried leaving two times, Like so you get to 0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:36.520 a point where like I could keep doing the same 0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:40.160 shit or I could change. So after I went through 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:45.720 my case, I made a vow that for seven years 0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:49.440 that I was just gonna like try to change my image, 0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:52.840 you know what I'm saying, by just just being me, 0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:56.760 just staying out of sight, out of mind. And it 0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.360 went from seven to now I'm on year like eleven 0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:03.480 of me just like finding enjoyy bro, you know what 0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:07.320 i mean, Like basketball, goat me that. But even coming here, 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:10.760 I'm always looking for something for inspiration. So like coming 0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:14.120 here seeing what y'all got going on, watching from a far, 0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:18.120 like huge fan of the Jeff of course, seeing how 0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:21.680 he's adapting to like this new world and new business 0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:24.400 venture that he's in. So the questions that I asked 0:58:24.440 --> 0:58:27.160 you all in there, that's why I asked you know 0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:29.800 what I'm saying, because but that's what y'all hit, you 0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:30.280 know what I mean. 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:34.880 So I appreciate you, well, was it a VT that 0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:37.280 when you got to the league that kind of embraced you? 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:41.480 Every almost every vet, bro, every vet, every teammate I had. 0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:44.360 I appreciate it. That's how I looked at this, every 0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:46.920 one of them. Because when it comes to like the 0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:50.120 basketball shit, when I was in it, I'm like, even 0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:52.280 though I don't want the fame, I still wanted people 0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:55.080 to like appreciate, like the work that I put in 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:58.800 or like like the way that I played so ice 0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:01.600 to be on teams when niggas and they tell me 0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:07.760 they from Booze from Alaska. I'm thinking about market market. Yeah, market, 0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:11.400 that's a market. Okay, Like damn, I never knew you 0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:13.600 know what I mean, all you from overseas, then they 0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:15.800 watching you too, I mean they watching me all right, bet, 0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:17.000 like you know what I'm saying. 0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:19.280 Ways, show love to everybody. 0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:24.120 And I had great vets to gray vets b like 0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:27.880 show me about health, like Luau was the first one. 0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:31.400 Should I have seen eat like a peanut butter and 0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:34.840 jelly sandwich at halftime? And now that's a custom in 0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:36.880 the league. That's before you go on the buzz And 0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:39.880 I mean like brunch, all that shit is a is 0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:43.520 just there now, But before it was there, you had 0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:46.320 like ogs that really you saw stretching before every game 0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:50.000 like a Nazi Muhammad, like Joe Kim, how he took. 0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:50.680 Care of his body. 0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:55.040 Like a lot of guys were really pros bro say 0:59:55.120 --> 0:59:58.560 the least sixteen seventeen years. Yeah, didn't get in the 0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:02.160 game at all, but they get ready, they get activated 1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:03.760 like they're about to play thirty. 1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:05.600 Minutes and to just chill. 1:00:06.200 --> 1:00:10.560 So I've seen that, and I'm like, man, whenever I 1:00:10.600 --> 1:00:13.080 do get in that position, I'm gonna try to handle 1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:15.720 that the same way. But only how you get there 1:00:16.440 --> 1:00:20.120 is you got to kill your ego. And that's not 1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:23.760 like a one time thing. That's like a continuous, fucking 1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:26.560 everyday thing. You know what I'm saying. What motherfuckers think 1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:29.200 it's just one time. No, that's just the first challenge. 1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:31.840 This shit just gonna keep popping up, especially if you 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:35.640 call your man you feel like you accomplish something, you 1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:36.120 know what I mean. 1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:38.680 It's a thin balance. It's a balance. You got to 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:39.520 balance the shit out. 1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:43.800 So being aware of that, being mindful of it, Like 1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:46.000 that's when he met me. That's what the stage that 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:46.760 I was in. 1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:49.640 When I seen you, Like, I ain't gonna lie everybody 1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:51.800 know me, I'll be like I don't want no kids. Yeah, 1:00:51.880 --> 1:00:54.160 but when I see you with your son, like being 1:00:54.200 --> 1:00:58.000 in Minnesota and like seeing him shoot the bat eye. 1:00:58.160 --> 1:00:59.080 This just random shit. 1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:01.120 I remember because I used to be watching like that's 1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:04.840 hard y'all try to shoot the ball into the rack, correct, Yeah, 1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:06.760 And I'm like, y'all thinggas know, y'all not about to 1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:10.160 hit that right, I'm like, I'm looking like they ain't 1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:12.520 gonna hit that, and y'all would continuously do it. And 1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:14.640 I remember one time he hit it, yes, and I 1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:18.520 was like, I fucker hit that ship. I'm surprised. To y'all, 1:01:23.920 --> 1:01:25.840 I'm not going to bed. But that's my version of 1:01:26.600 --> 1:01:30.560 the crate for him. Put the crate up, bro, We're 1:01:30.560 --> 1:01:33.520 gonna we're gonna make a basketball rim out of anything 1:01:33.560 --> 1:01:34.360 on this motherfucker. 1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:35.360 Just being creative. 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:37.280 And I want you to be able to be on 1:01:37.280 --> 1:01:41.520 this court at this stage and feel comfortable around twenty 1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:44.320 to ten, ten thousand people looking at you. Just be 1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:47.120 yourself because a lot of kids I see, like a 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:49.520 lot of kids that get on that stage free'ze up, 1:01:50.320 --> 1:01:52.800 scared than the motherfucker. I'm like, Noah, I don't want 1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:55.120 my kids going to do that. Through that man, I'm 1:01:55.120 --> 1:01:57.720 putting them in positions to make them uncomfortable, like I'm 1:01:57.760 --> 1:02:00.720 putting myself in positions. But for them, I wish I 1:02:00.720 --> 1:02:04.200 had a dad or yeah, something I wish I had, 1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:06.240 So I got to present the opportunity for them. 1:02:06.480 --> 1:02:07.720 I was watching that ship. 1:02:08.080 --> 1:02:11.280 Man, he over there tossing that ball, So it was 1:02:11.360 --> 1:02:13.200 like three days in a row. I'm like, yeah, he 1:02:13.240 --> 1:02:17.200 ain't gonna, ain't gonna that. That ain't gonna like sh 1:02:17.560 --> 1:02:18.600 I'm over there like that. 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:23.880 Like that. It's dope. 1:02:24.080 --> 1:02:25.880 It's hard a lot of these days. I'm glad you 1:02:25.920 --> 1:02:27.960 ain't trying to but a lot of these niggas trying 1:02:27.960 --> 1:02:30.480 to live through their kids on the hoop world, especially 1:02:30.480 --> 1:02:32.080 a lot of these as you Dad. So I was 1:02:32.120 --> 1:02:34.600 gonna ask you, like, how do you balance that dad life? 1:02:34.680 --> 1:02:37.240 And you know, making sure he stay on the straight 1:02:37.400 --> 1:02:40.240 arrow on the hool store, you know, pushing itself to 1:02:40.320 --> 1:02:41.280 his maxibility. 1:02:41.520 --> 1:02:43.680 I mean, I'm pushing, but at the same time, it's 1:02:43.760 --> 1:02:47.320 more like discipline with him right now. But it's about 1:02:47.360 --> 1:02:50.000 knowing your worth too, because he's in the stage and. 1:02:49.920 --> 1:02:51.840 A lot of a lot of little hoopers need to 1:02:51.880 --> 1:02:52.280 hear this. 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:57.640 Like, uh, knowing your worth, Like if a company come 1:02:57.720 --> 1:02:59.880 to you for an nil deal or something like that, 1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:03.120 and like you don't know your worth, you'll take any deal, 1:03:03.720 --> 1:03:05.720 but you got to look at like what do you 1:03:05.760 --> 1:03:08.960 see your brand or what you see yourself associated with? 1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:11.840 Like he had a deal to come to him in 1:03:11.920 --> 1:03:15.080 which I thought that he shouldn't have took. But I 1:03:15.120 --> 1:03:17.520 can't say that to him. I asked him about it. Hey, 1:03:17.800 --> 1:03:20.960 you think it's right. So who do you see yourself 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:22.840 as associated with this brand? 1:03:22.880 --> 1:03:23.400 That brand? 1:03:23.920 --> 1:03:26.560 He started thinking about it like I gotta make you think. 1:03:26.560 --> 1:03:28.520 I gotta provoke a thought, you know what I'm saying, 1:03:28.760 --> 1:03:30.600 Like just to see where your head, that where you 1:03:30.640 --> 1:03:32.840 think at least put it on your mind that if 1:03:32.880 --> 1:03:36.800 you see yourself being an MVP type caliber, whoever you 1:03:36.840 --> 1:03:39.840 associate yourself with got to be on that same level too. 1:03:40.640 --> 1:03:45.440 So like the hoop inside, I let him just play bro. 1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:47.479 I'm not on him. I make him do his push 1:03:47.560 --> 1:03:49.840 ups and sit ups and shit like that. But it's 1:03:49.880 --> 1:03:52.800 really just school and making sure that his mental rate. 1:03:53.480 --> 1:03:56.800 Like a lot of kids, he quiet, So a lot 1:03:56.840 --> 1:03:59.280 of kids be like going through shit by themselves and 1:04:00.040 --> 1:04:02.600 our kids. I want to be able to make sure 1:04:02.600 --> 1:04:04.840 that I'm there well, not only like my kids, but 1:04:04.960 --> 1:04:05.800 my family. 1:04:05.880 --> 1:04:08.080 You know what I'm saying. It's interesting here you setting 1:04:08.080 --> 1:04:08.720 what I'm saying with you. 1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:10.200 He coached your ALBA made you know what I'm saying, 1:04:10.920 --> 1:04:13.000 kids that now, like you said, it's a different situation 1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:14.800 now growing up in high school, being good at having 1:04:14.800 --> 1:04:16.640 some type of impression they getting deals. It's like, all right, 1:04:16.680 --> 1:04:17.880 that might be cool now, but you don't know what 1:04:17.880 --> 1:04:18.880 you're getting yourself into. 1:04:19.560 --> 1:04:24.720 Ain't nobody getting deals with the high school nott He 1:04:24.920 --> 1:04:26.040 loving shit? 1:04:26.440 --> 1:04:31.040 Yeah, loving, But like it's like coaching kids, like you're right, 1:04:31.080 --> 1:04:33.000 it's a lot of the mental stuff, like what they 1:04:33.080 --> 1:04:35.080 go through outside of basketball. You just want to make 1:04:35.080 --> 1:04:37.280 sure that they're in a comfortable spoor. They in a 1:04:37.320 --> 1:04:40.760 good place. But like you doing that with your kids, 1:04:40.760 --> 1:04:42.840 and that's dope. I wanted to know, Like when you 1:04:42.880 --> 1:04:45.400 watch them play, because I seen him hit a game 1:04:45.600 --> 1:04:46.280 a game winner. 1:04:46.440 --> 1:04:47.600 Yeah you know you too. 1:04:47.680 --> 1:04:50.120 I'm like, damn, like I remember him like you said, 1:04:50.120 --> 1:04:53.040 I remember shooting on the on the little rack or whatever. 1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:54.680 So to see him here in game winners, do you 1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:56.960 see his skilled up? Like skill level going up? And 1:04:57.000 --> 1:04:59.400 you like, ship, man, I'm starting to see it, do 1:04:59.440 --> 1:05:00.400 you now? 1:05:00.440 --> 1:05:00.600 Man? 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:02.880 Like I said, that's why I'm taking this step that 1:05:02.880 --> 1:05:06.000 I'm taking down, bro, But I have to be there, 1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:11.160 yeah for my fans, Like uh uh, it's all about 1:05:11.200 --> 1:05:14.080 the discipline, bro, Like I don't know how many times, 1:05:14.120 --> 1:05:17.280 like as a as a I'm talking as a dad, 1:05:17.440 --> 1:05:20.720 not a father, because it's a difference, Like my kids 1:05:20.760 --> 1:05:22.920 call me dad I love, and they call me dad 1:05:23.200 --> 1:05:23.720 not father. 1:05:25.160 --> 1:05:31.480 Don't sound right, Jackson ship don't sound right to me. 1:05:31.680 --> 1:05:34.800 So like that time that I'm putting in, giving every 1:05:34.840 --> 1:05:38.160 one of my kids that equal time, you know what 1:05:38.160 --> 1:05:38.560 I'm saying. 1:05:38.600 --> 1:05:40.280 But with him, since he's the. 1:05:40.240 --> 1:05:42.840 Oldest, I have to be a little bit more strict 1:05:42.880 --> 1:05:46.160 on him as far as making sure he gets up 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:49.040 on time for school, taking out the garbage, a little 1:05:49.120 --> 1:05:52.560 chori shit. But it creates your character, you know what 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:58.480 I'm saying. Oh man, So I'm seeing like it carries 1:05:58.520 --> 1:06:02.880 over to where if you're not disciplined in something that 1:06:02.880 --> 1:06:05.720 you're passionate about back in basketball, how you think you're 1:06:05.760 --> 1:06:09.400 gonna be disciplined in the other areas. You know, if 1:06:09.400 --> 1:06:12.080 you're not disciplined about something that you love other areas 1:06:12.160 --> 1:06:14.439 is gonna fall too that you're gonna crumble at some point, 1:06:15.160 --> 1:06:16.880 you know what I'm saying. In fact, so I'm like, 1:06:16.920 --> 1:06:20.360 bro dedicate yourself to this, and I guarantee you it's 1:06:20.400 --> 1:06:23.200 gonna pay off. But he listened though, Like that's half 1:06:23.200 --> 1:06:25.680 the battle too, and which I love about him. I 1:06:25.720 --> 1:06:28.480 could talk to him. He got his own individuality too. 1:06:28.920 --> 1:06:32.800 So once I see that, I don't want to tamper 1:06:32.880 --> 1:06:35.560 with that, because I see that if I do, you're 1:06:35.560 --> 1:06:37.240 gonna try to make You're gonna try to follow me 1:06:37.400 --> 1:06:41.000 or follow in my footstep. You're your own person, You 1:06:41.040 --> 1:06:46.040 are PJ ro, you are your own entity. Right, how 1:06:46.080 --> 1:06:48.120 you feel about this? I asked him, how you feel? 1:06:48.200 --> 1:06:52.600 Brow what you think? He'll tell me the honest truth. 1:06:52.600 --> 1:06:54.080 All this is how we're gonna think about it, just 1:06:54.120 --> 1:06:56.680 like we were talking about with the deal. He was 1:06:56.760 --> 1:06:58.840 mad that I was telling him that shit about the 1:06:58.920 --> 1:07:03.439 deal because he knew that I was telling them right, 1:07:03.920 --> 1:07:06.440 Like what Like I was asking them questions, and the 1:07:06.520 --> 1:07:09.919 question I was the answers. He was like, not elaborating 1:07:09.960 --> 1:07:14.600 on him, Like yeah, he said a certain company name. 1:07:14.680 --> 1:07:16.280 I don't want to say the name, say their name. 1:07:16.400 --> 1:07:18.840 I'm like, so, how like that don't add up? Pe 1:07:18.960 --> 1:07:21.919 see what I'm saying. He started to hear what I'm saying. 1:07:21.960 --> 1:07:25.320 He heard what I was saying, but start crying. I'm like, bro, 1:07:25.440 --> 1:07:28.120 I'm not here to chastise you or make you feel 1:07:28.120 --> 1:07:30.400 like you made the wrong decision. I'm just showing you 1:07:30.520 --> 1:07:34.760 that you have worth. They're coming because you have worth. 1:07:34.920 --> 1:07:37.520 Now you decide what that worth is going to be 1:07:38.280 --> 1:07:40.360 a lot of kids these days. They don't know what 1:07:40.440 --> 1:07:42.520 the worth. They don't even know that they got work 1:07:43.280 --> 1:07:45.160 along telling the motherfucker that they love them with some 1:07:45.320 --> 1:07:47.440 of it, hitting them, patting them on the back for 1:07:47.640 --> 1:07:53.040 letting for doing something right. So me expressing to him 1:07:53.080 --> 1:07:56.000 where I'm at right now, telling him like man, PJ, 1:07:56.120 --> 1:07:58.800 I'm doing this for me, my nigga, not doing this 1:07:58.840 --> 1:07:59.440 for you no more. 1:08:00.960 --> 1:08:04.120 I'm quitting because of me. I'm tired of it. 1:08:04.600 --> 1:08:09.200 I'm doing this solely to be around y'all, taking you 1:08:09.240 --> 1:08:10.520 to school, I'm picking you up. 1:08:10.560 --> 1:08:13.440 I'm doing this. I'm doing that. You appreciate this ship. 1:08:14.040 --> 1:08:15.120 You may not understanding. 1:08:15.240 --> 1:08:17.439 Now that's my whole little saying that you ain't gonna 1:08:17.479 --> 1:08:19.360 understand it, but later on you're gonna respect it. 1:08:20.240 --> 1:08:23.879 I say that all the time, but you ain't. Motherfucker 1:08:23.960 --> 1:08:25.160 kids trifling. 1:08:27.680 --> 1:08:27.880 Home. 1:08:30.400 --> 1:08:33.120 I have a line of told mothers bro, y'all keep 1:08:33.160 --> 1:08:35.519 his room, trifle these mice and ship. O, come fuck 1:08:35.560 --> 1:08:37.400 your roaches and ship. You got a lot to them. 1:08:37.400 --> 1:08:43.400 You gotta kind of cash for sure, y'all said all 1:08:43.680 --> 1:08:44.720 the bullshit. 1:08:45.200 --> 1:08:48.960 Look appearance, anything to make them listen. Bro, for sure. 1:08:49.040 --> 1:08:51.680 You gotta trick him a little bit like That's what man, 1:08:51.720 --> 1:08:54.839 by being a dad, like sparking, like sparking that engine. 1:08:54.840 --> 1:08:56.439 Sometimes. You got a. 1:08:58.040 --> 1:09:01.120 Lot of kids now they don't know how. They ain't 1:09:01.160 --> 1:09:06.520 gonna know because of the the conditions and living circumstances 1:09:06.520 --> 1:09:09.400 that you gather me in, because of what you went through. 1:09:09.760 --> 1:09:10.479 I went through this. 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:13.160 I'm putting you in this type of environment so that 1:09:13.200 --> 1:09:14.439 you don't got to go back to that. If they 1:09:14.439 --> 1:09:16.000 do go back to it, you will fail. You any 1:09:16.000 --> 1:09:18.040 you a failure if you let them go back. Yeah, 1:09:18.240 --> 1:09:21.040 you feel what I'm saying. So I'm creating this for 1:09:21.160 --> 1:09:25.240 you and to see you thrive. And that's all. That's 1:09:25.240 --> 1:09:28.400 the stage. I'm man, just bossing up Brow what it's 1:09:28.439 --> 1:09:29.160 all about. 1:09:28.920 --> 1:09:32.720 Bron for sure. Listen, man, we are blessed, blessed, blessed. Man. 1:09:32.720 --> 1:09:34.519 We appreciate you pulling up. I know how much this 1:09:34.600 --> 1:09:36.760 means for you, Bro, and how much this means to us. 1:09:36.760 --> 1:09:38.680 Like we said, we got this opportunity. Shot to the 1:09:38.680 --> 1:09:40.639 team for making this happen. Man, we were at static. Man, 1:09:40.640 --> 1:09:42.360 we are really happy that you pulled up on this. 1:09:42.520 --> 1:09:43.880 Man means the world to us for show. 1:09:43.920 --> 1:09:47.599 Bro Bro, No, no, for sure, I gotta say something 1:09:47.640 --> 1:09:48.080 for you leave. 1:09:48.280 --> 1:09:52.120 I'm so geeked, bro, Like I'm a fan, Like I 1:09:52.160 --> 1:09:55.000 know we graduated seven whatever, so like when I was 1:09:55.920 --> 1:09:58.759 in college, you was a rookie and you going against 1:09:58.840 --> 1:10:00.839 Rondo and them in the self six in the playoffs 1:10:00.880 --> 1:10:02.840 and stuff, and I'm watching, I'm like, damn, it's some 1:10:03.560 --> 1:10:05.880 I know him, like I competed against him. I see 1:10:05.960 --> 1:10:07.680 him to see you do that ship and then like 1:10:08.040 --> 1:10:09.840 to get to know you over the years and then 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:11.639 see what kind of person as you, kind of father 1:10:11.720 --> 1:10:13.679 you are, how dope you are as a person cool 1:10:14.120 --> 1:10:16.200 and like for you to have all the accolades and 1:10:16.320 --> 1:10:17.360 all all the. 1:10:17.280 --> 1:10:20.680 Shit that you've got, and how humble you was. Like, Bro, you. 1:10:20.680 --> 1:10:22.840 Would put me in spaces and we'd be in rooms 1:10:22.880 --> 1:10:26.840 and you are like you the one, and you like 1:10:26.920 --> 1:10:29.879 this nigga crazy, I'm taking over the floor. But everybody 1:10:29.920 --> 1:10:32.599 want to be around you, and that shit is dope. 1:10:32.640 --> 1:10:35.479 You don't meet too many people who just like who 1:10:35.520 --> 1:10:37.519 got the resume or the person that you are and 1:10:37.680 --> 1:10:40.800 let you be you like lor you ain't had to 1:10:40.880 --> 1:10:44.680 let me start, Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like you, 1:10:44.800 --> 1:10:46.800 I'm not saying I earn. I ain't saying I earned 1:10:46.840 --> 1:10:50.200 the start, bro, But we being honest. 1:10:50.240 --> 1:10:54.040 Bro. I'm just a realistic person. Bro. 1:10:54.760 --> 1:10:56.599 Like you might have went through some stuff, you went 1:10:56.640 --> 1:10:59.200 to New York and whatever, whatever, and then you came 1:10:59.280 --> 1:11:03.040 to the team. But when you started hooping, nigga, you 1:11:03.120 --> 1:11:04.639 was averaging sixteen off the bench. 1:11:04.800 --> 1:11:05.639 I was averaging ten. 1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:10.080 But still at that time, I was fully aware of 1:11:10.160 --> 1:11:10.880 where I was at. 1:11:10.920 --> 1:11:13.200 At that time, I didn't want to start. Tims used 1:11:13.240 --> 1:11:15.640 to try to come to me. I'm like, no, I 1:11:15.680 --> 1:11:22.759 know you didn't want to start, but I was like please, Opposite. 1:11:23.040 --> 1:11:26.680 The whole reason I'm telling Tim, tell the man is 1:11:26.720 --> 1:11:29.280 probably going to you like you need to start. 1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:32.120 Like no, I'm like, tell. 1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:34.680 Him, what's so crazy is in a different situation that's 1:11:34.720 --> 1:11:36.320 goes differently and most of the time, and that's the 1:11:36.360 --> 1:11:38.800 typical NBA typically got them going against each other, but 1:11:38.840 --> 1:11:39.559 you're pushing each other. 1:11:39.560 --> 1:11:40.360 And that's why I worked out. 1:11:40.360 --> 1:11:42.519 And now the niggas just didn't want to start because 1:11:42.520 --> 1:11:43.960 they was hurting this feelings. 1:11:44.240 --> 1:11:48.639 It was about it was it was. It was about 1:11:48.640 --> 1:11:59.240 that nigga. That's what I came. I was. 1:11:59.360 --> 1:12:03.679 I was I was fucking zero the lit my last 1:12:03.760 --> 1:12:06.840 day after we went to the Prince House. Right, we 1:12:06.880 --> 1:12:08.639 went to the Prince House. Right, we had a little 1:12:08.680 --> 1:12:10.320 showing that I'm gonna let you'll get out of here 1:12:11.000 --> 1:12:14.240 me Wig. So if you to know Wigs to love 1:12:14.280 --> 1:12:17.679 Wig and he's live, he's me and him very similar, 1:12:17.960 --> 1:12:18.799 entire a lot of stuff. 1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:26.439 And then doctor just put it out. 1:12:27.320 --> 1:12:30.200 So I didn't say that. He said that, So then 1:12:30.240 --> 1:12:32.840 the no Wig, it is the no Gorgy. So it's me, 1:12:33.280 --> 1:12:34.920 Gorgy and Wig at a table. 1:12:35.000 --> 1:12:35.200 Right. 1:12:35.920 --> 1:12:38.240 We don't smile for ship. We don't do ship. We 1:12:38.400 --> 1:12:40.599 mean like, people don't know this side of me. Only 1:12:40.920 --> 1:12:43.360 the teammates know our joking ships like the fan don't know. 1:12:43.400 --> 1:12:45.160 They think I'm mass So I don't smile about ship. 1:12:46.000 --> 1:12:49.240 But Wig don't smell about ship. Gorgy he's the nicest 1:12:49.240 --> 1:12:51.880 person in the world, but they don't know. Like he 1:12:52.000 --> 1:12:57.160 don't smile. Man our table empty, nobody want our table. 1:12:57.200 --> 1:12:59.839 I'm talking about man his table. 1:13:02.920 --> 1:13:05.920 Nigga to Prince Jersey walking by, not one person had 1:13:05.920 --> 1:13:09.479 a just press the way I think my mama might 1:13:09.479 --> 1:13:13.519 have one. This Nigga, Prince Jersey bro had to be 1:13:13.560 --> 1:13:16.439 the highest selling ship in the NBA that it had 1:13:16.479 --> 1:13:19.760 to be Bro. I know, Bro, they was walking by. 1:13:19.800 --> 1:13:24.640 I was like, damn, damn, not a damn Damn. I'm like, 1:13:24.720 --> 1:13:28.559 wig damn. We just got a Max. I'm like, fuck, Bro, 1:13:29.560 --> 1:13:32.639 you might want he. I gotta leave, Bro. They don't 1:13:32.680 --> 1:13:35.600 fuck with me, y'all. I'm like, they don't know. It 1:13:35.720 --> 1:13:38.040 was not even just so I gotta leave, like they're 1:13:38.080 --> 1:13:40.160 not fucking with me no more. It was Cat and 1:13:40.680 --> 1:13:44.960 then d Ro. This Jersey was more than Cats. I 1:13:45.080 --> 1:13:47.200 was like, yeah, he's not gonna be back, like you 1:13:47.240 --> 1:13:49.040 know what I mean, Like Cat not fucking with that. 1:13:50.360 --> 1:13:53.519 I'm keeping it up being Bro. I'm keeping up being Bro. 1:13:53.600 --> 1:14:04.519 I was like, y'all know, stop, Okay, I'm Bro Guy. 1:14:04.600 --> 1:14:06.840 I love Cat. Bro, Cat coolest half. 1:14:07.160 --> 1:14:10.320 I think Cat one of the coldest players to ever play. 1:14:11.160 --> 1:14:13.639 When I seen that ship, you had to be there, Bro. 1:14:14.000 --> 1:14:17.880 We act the Prince House Bro with Prince Jerseys. I'm 1:14:17.920 --> 1:14:21.360 watching him like this is d roll ship. Like, I'm like, 1:14:21.400 --> 1:14:22.479 this is ship, you know. 1:14:22.439 --> 1:14:22.720 What I mean. 1:14:22.720 --> 1:14:27.280 I'm I'm I'm a real nigga. Really I realized it. Yeah, 1:14:27.479 --> 1:14:29.880 he went it six me. I'm like, yeah, yeah, this 1:14:30.040 --> 1:14:30.920 his team that was. 1:14:30.880 --> 1:14:32.400 One of the best collabs that they did. 1:14:32.479 --> 1:14:36.160 I was was that the first time they ever did that. 1:14:36.240 --> 1:14:36.600 I don't know. 1:14:36.640 --> 1:14:39.880 That was fired up to bro Ma. Mama called me like, 1:14:39.880 --> 1:14:41.680 get that prince dressing. Baby, It's gonna be a lot 1:14:41.720 --> 1:14:47.360 for you. I'm like, up there, I said, can you 1:14:47.400 --> 1:14:50.559 sign this? It's how much of people house? He signed 1:14:50.560 --> 1:14:52.559 it for me? He was like, yeah, I signed it, 1:14:52.920 --> 1:14:57.960 and somebody took that bitch. Yeah you signed and put 1:14:58.000 --> 1:14:58.479 it in the locker. 1:14:58.520 --> 1:14:59.760 Nigga. I came back, it was gone. 1:15:00.040 --> 1:15:04.760 It was one of the quick Yeah right now, I can. 1:15:06.200 --> 1:15:08.400 I know so many was asking for that ship. I was, 1:15:08.400 --> 1:15:12.160 I want to ask another one. I'm like, mother right 1:15:12.160 --> 1:15:13.280 after this interview. 1:15:14.520 --> 1:15:22.160 With that jersey before for that mother right now he 1:15:22.280 --> 1:15:24.920 had all them Jersey, I said, Yeah, that was a 1:15:24.960 --> 1:15:25.880 hell of experience. 1:15:26.000 --> 1:15:26.280 That was. 1:15:26.360 --> 1:15:29.800 That was dope. That was his house was crazy. That's 1:15:29.880 --> 1:15:31.680 one of the craziest homes I ever been to. I 1:15:31.760 --> 1:15:34.639 don't still respect him. He's a legend and I'm talking 1:15:34.680 --> 1:15:38.200 about in the house the rules, No, nigga, don't touch. 1:15:38.400 --> 1:15:40.639 I can't touch as if he's still there. I've never 1:15:40.680 --> 1:15:43.960 saw that one nigga be gentle around. That was like, 1:15:44.960 --> 1:15:47.240 don't shoot on that goal Like I was like. 1:15:47.280 --> 1:15:50.680 Damn, they said that they used to hold to I 1:15:50.920 --> 1:15:51.880 love to meet him like that. 1:15:51.880 --> 1:15:55.920 But the same food me and you, like you can't 1:15:55.920 --> 1:15:59.080 bring no meat, no other ship in the crib. They 1:15:59.120 --> 1:16:03.679 still respect him. I never saw nothing like it. Damn, 1:16:03.920 --> 1:16:04.200 that's not. 1:16:04.200 --> 1:16:06.280 All we got. I gotta ask. We brought up the jerseys. 1:16:06.520 --> 1:16:08.040 How does it feel to still see you know what 1:16:08.080 --> 1:16:10.040 I'm saying, like people wear your jersey? Because I know, 1:16:10.080 --> 1:16:11.800 like we always talk about the jerseys like that, like 1:16:11.880 --> 1:16:14.320 that baby Blue Nuggets Mellow jersey, but that number one 1:16:14.320 --> 1:16:15.440 boy jersey. 1:16:15.920 --> 1:16:17.679 Man, that's like a hood legend jersey. 1:16:17.760 --> 1:16:19.800 Like everybody in the world, even you go to the 1:16:19.840 --> 1:16:22.439 Fright House of the Crazy White Boys playing Beer Paul, 1:16:22.680 --> 1:16:24.679 they got a de bro jersey. How does it feel 1:16:24.720 --> 1:16:26.600 for that, like to that universal moments like everybody like, 1:16:26.680 --> 1:16:27.640 no matter where my boy, we. 1:16:27.720 --> 1:16:28.559 Fucking with that jersey. 1:16:28.880 --> 1:16:34.160 As far as right now, I'm living in gratitude, appreciative, 1:16:34.320 --> 1:16:36.599 you know what I'm saying. And not to make y'all 1:16:36.960 --> 1:16:39.960 this episode serious like this, because I know y'all normally 1:16:40.000 --> 1:16:42.559 got like some humor ship. 1:16:42.720 --> 1:16:47.920 But now you bro straight, bro straight, some people need 1:16:47.960 --> 1:16:48.200 to hear. 1:16:48.520 --> 1:16:51.720 Yeah, But yeah, just living in gratitude, bro, And that's 1:16:51.760 --> 1:16:53.280 one of the reasons why I think wanted to come 1:16:53.280 --> 1:16:56.880 here and show loveious west Ship. 1:16:56.960 --> 1:16:59.160 Like I said, for sure man. Man, Like I said, 1:16:59.160 --> 1:17:01.800 we appreciate you. We appreciate you giving us this moment. Man, 1:17:01.840 --> 1:17:03.040 it means a life for both sides. 1:17:03.080 --> 1:17:04.960 Man. We can't wait to see what you do next. 1:17:04.960 --> 1:17:06.760 You know, got the team gonna keep creating, man, We're 1:17:06.800 --> 1:17:08.880 definitely gonna push and support that before we get out 1:17:08.880 --> 1:17:09.040 of here. 1:17:09.120 --> 1:17:11.000 Be here and telling people that can grasp and march at. 1:17:11.000 --> 1:17:15.080 Shop club five twenty dot com. Baby the Volume