Menopause, Microtrends, and Technology’s Grip on Us | Golden Hour

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining us. We're so excited to be back. And how are you today, Kathy?

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Speaker 2: You know I'm fabulous, except one twelfth of twenty twenty six is almost here. Like the month has gone so quickly.

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Speaker 1: Don't What do I think? The years are going so quickly as we get older, the faster it goes.

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Speaker 2: You and I've had this conversation. I used to say that, you know, I hate saying the spring, but ever since my husband died, time has crawled. So I guess it's a good thing that in twenty twenty six the month is going back quickly. Maybe that means I'm, you know, getting back more to normal or whatever. But you know, January's been a really funny month. It's been crazy weather. I've been home a whole lot more this month than I have been in recent months, So I don't know, it's just been It's been a good month, though. What about you?

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Speaker 1: It is it's speeding, it's flying. I think it races to my birthday and then it slows. It's the big one coming, Kathy. It's the big one, the City nine that is huge.

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Speaker 2: No, No, No, sixteen seventy.

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Speaker 1: Why I'm not doing seventy. I'm just saying my sixty ninth is one. We're going to celebrate the big one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the big one is coming next year. We're starting over. It's not a big one. So when Susan had start seventieth birthday next year, we're just going to say, yeah, that's just another day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to be in Europe somewhere, I hope, all right, filming something.

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Speaker 2: I would love it. All right, Well, while we're daydreaming about birthdays in Europe today, we're going to do things a little bit differently. We're going to try a segment called Golden Wisdom where we talk out some big questions and then just share our thoughts. And I'm going to start us off. Okay, all right, why do you think dating is so hard for everyone? Right now?

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Speaker 1: I think I know the answer.

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Speaker 2: Well, give it to me.

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Speaker 1: Because they're swiping left, they're swiping right, and everybody thinks there's something better. It's it's insane and I have been not been on them in quite some time. But I'm honestly God, I fell into that category myself at one time when I was doing so much well let's see what else. But maybe it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I can't disagree. Yeah, I can't disagree with you. I think that there's so many options technology, internet dating apps. It's just made it so easy to say, yeah, you know, I think there should be a new like a new app. I've been thinking about this the grass is Always Greener app. So you swipe me like, yeah, the grass isn't greener. I will, I will look at this one. I do think though, that that's what's going on. There's just so many options. It's the days of fixing people up or meeting at a public place or a bar or it does, but people rely so much on technology. I also think right now people are so busy working, trying to make ends meet. You know, people just don't have or make the time as much. I think right now today, maybe I'm just talking about myself.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I also agree about the technology what the world was like when we grew up. But how about the difference between kids or teenagers now versus when we were kids or teenagers.

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Speaker 2: Well, it is day for me. Yeah, but you can't have this conversation, Susan. Nobody can have a conversation about kids and teens now versus you know, when when we were kids and when we're well first and going to.

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Speaker 1: Have this conversation, Kap, you just said we're not I think we're gone.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can have it without just one word introducing it, and that is technology. That is the word. It has changed everything about how you know, kids are on their best friends are online. You know, they play all these games online and they have friends online. Technology has changed the way we think, the way we date, We order our groceries online, we order our clothes online, the way we have our friends. We learn online.

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Speaker 1: Yes, remember encyclopedias, like we were fortunate to have encyclopedias our family, and I remember friends that didn't have to come over to use ours do homework. Now you press a button.

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Speaker 2: Right, so much literally information is at our fingertips, and what I think is unfortunate. I live in a neighborhood that's like a big well you've been here, it's a big circle, right, And there's lots of kids in this neighborhood. I rarely see kids outside playing I don't remember, and there's tons of it because they're on their computers. Yes, kids still do you know after school sports or gymnastics and those kinds of things. But I just think once we introduced technology, there's no going back. There is a paradigm shift between what childhood was like for us and what childhood is like for kids now. You know, as you said, in schools they use computers. Now computers are everywhere. There isn't one aspect of our life that doesn't involve technology. You remember, wait, I got one, I got one?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: Oh, never mind, I was going to say sex. But people use it online for that too. Now.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't too long ago. We did a podcast and one of the people that wrote in the question that her daughter did not want her to share her life with her grandchildren, And this right here is proof, Like it's so different. Wouldn't you tell them what it was like for us. Yeah, you're so fortunate to have all these things at your fingertips. We didn't grow up that way.

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Speaker 2: I know. I also think that kids, when when parents are teaching their children whatever we're trying to teach them, kids just hop on the computer and they can find somebody who thinks about it differently, as if that's you know, proof, that's verifiable proof. I think one of the biggest issues for kids today, which is very unfortunate. The Internet, Instagram, TikTok, all of them people. And I've said this to you before. People always put out the fabulous lives they want other people to see they have, yes, and so only the good moment, so young kids, the bullying, think about it, you know, all those aspects of the Internet, but also the fact that kids look and they think they have a terrible life because they're seeing companies, imaginary if you will, imaginary lives out there. And so, you know, I think that parents today, it's it's a tough. It's tough being a parent because you really have to manage the technology. Like I said, you can't have this conversation without talking about technology. So okay, so here's let's move away from technology because that's we you know.

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Speaker 1: Could be rude period.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. Parents, get your kids off technology, get them outside, pressure some of it, and give them a book, go back to reading. That's my PSA for the day. Okay, what let's talk about advice. What do you have to say to parents whose kids are already obsessing over skincare and anti aging at the age of twelve. You know, it's never too soon start, Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: I think they should school them and tell them what is necessary and keeping your skin protective, clean, sun and clean. And some suffer with acne, some don't, but definitely school them young how to take.

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Speaker 2: That anti aging?

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Speaker 1: Why not? The sun's going to aid you. Look at me. I didn't use sunscreen until a few years ago. Well, no, kids should know.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, I think this this is a little bit different. This is success. If a kid saying, mom, you know it's seventeen, I'm I'm my skin. Look it's getting old. I need plastic surgery. I mean, well, it's again slippery slope. Kids go online. You and I've talked about this. How many skin products anti aging products they do? They use a twenty year old to advertise for anti aging and do you know I talked with someone who's in that world, and I was told the reason they use young people not you and.

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Speaker 1: Me, because they love good still.

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Speaker 2: It's because no, it was, yes, but because they can get people on the bandwagon, really young, buying their producs using it. Yeah, I should.

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Speaker 1: My daughter for christ my granddaughter Bella, who was thirteen years old, had a specific eyn cream that she wanted for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: And where did she hear about it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask her that, bet it's.

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Speaker 2: The internet or a friend and the friend heard it from another friend. And I mean the marketing, Oh, the marketing genius. It's unbelievable. But I don't like that kids obsessed over that. I really don't know kids. I think you were on the right track when you said teach your children about you brushing teeth and washing their face and anti hygiene. But that's higiing on that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, protecting yourself from the that's a big one. That's the biggest one.

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Speaker 2: That was anti aging, Susan, it's for skin cancer.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's also for aging. You can't say it's not.

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Speaker 2: Well. I don't know about you, but I'm never going to talk to my eight year old granddaughter about putting sunscreen on for anti aging. I'm going to say to protect eight ten, eleven, fifteen, eighteen. I'm going to say, Linley, put skin sunscreen on so that you do not get get harmful rais and get skin cancer. That's my answer. It's all right about it.

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Speaker 1: Comes to fashion, how can you spot the difference between a micro trend and a timeless style or trend? Can I say you have actually has come a long way? Can I can I say, miss Boston over here, miss button down collared shirts, has come a long way.

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Speaker 2: I'm account of you, thank you. But here's the thing. I don't know what a micro trend from a macro trend is, but I can tell you there are things that I buy that I know are going to be timeless. And you know it too.

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Speaker 1: It's good.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's classic, A good A good navy blue blazer with gold buttons, a cashmere sweater, cashmere coats, a trench coat, a kaki. I mean, there's certain pieces when you but when you look, if you want to know what is mind.

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Speaker 1: How can I interrupt that she is got Boston blood Because the trench coat, the navy blue blazer with the gold buttons.

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Speaker 2: It's also I will always have them in my closet. They're timeless.

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Speaker 1: I remember Kathy, you saying I said, no more skinny jeans. No they're coming back. You said they're coming back. Now we all wear big baggy jeans.

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Speaker 2: Skinny jeans are coming back.

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Speaker 1: They're really not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just say no, I'm wearing my skinny jeans. But here's the thing. A micro trend. Skinny jeans have been in a long time. I think women now wear what they want to wear. But a micro trend is something that literally is zingos. So give me some examples of micro trends. Because you are the fashioning.

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Speaker 1: Stage, I think that, well, no, that might not be micro because they've been out more than a year, that the really short crop tops and the low rise low rise are coming back in again. Micro trend could be a specific kind of a shoe, you know, something crazy shoe that's here and gone and nobody wears it again. Yeah, I mean I think run out and buy them. That's the best part.

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Speaker 2: Well for you, it is, I see. I don't buy micro trends because I, for example, I think a micro trend is I think, are these really short roppers? Not roppers because roppers have been around a long time, but the ones where it's leaving very little to the imagination, I don't think those are going to last.

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Speaker 1: Do you only for young girls? Young girls can wear anything because we're young. We want to get a woman our age that has a great fit body and she puts that on, people are gonna talk. It's just not age appropriate.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now we're getting into this. Do you think that Okay, We're just gonna be honest with our listeners. Susan and I were at an event recently, and Susan not on a gorgeous uh white leather hotpants shorts and a match hot pants.

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Speaker 1: There were shorts.

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Speaker 2: That's what we call hotpants. Excuse my excuse age, excuse my micro trend where my age is showing. They were they were very short.

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Speaker 1: They weren't very short. Okay, well to me they weren't. Sure. Well, but that's like a mini dress to you if you hold your arms to the side. Now, everybody listening, please do a self check. I went to Catholic school and we had to hold our hands to the side of our uniform and it had to be hemmed no shorter than our fingertips. Right. Well, I used to get in trouble because my uniform was always short.

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, okay, I'm sorry. I think really short shorts where you better be.

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Speaker 1: Careful, day duke short shorts.

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Speaker 2: That's short's daisy dou Yeah, they're a little your butt cheeks hang out.

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Speaker 1: Were not like that.

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Speaker 2: They were close anyway the hell they were.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to put a picture up, I swear to you. Go ahead, go ahead, it was very looking short.

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Speaker 2: But where I was going. Where I going with this is I think a lot of this conversation has to do with perspective, because for me, you took a lot of heat and for wearing them, some people said you look faby, some people said you should wear them. Do you remember what I said, I wouldn't wear that. I've got very long legs and I have good legs. I wouldn't have worn that outfit for me when I was eighteen. I don't think it's about age. It's about comfort, and so for me, you feel comfortable in it exactly. It has nothing to do with age. I wouldn't have worn it at eighteen. So you know, I'm used, that's me. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's you are more conservative than right I am.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, I don't know spotting the difference. I think a micro trend is when I might I have an owl neck when I see him walking down the street and I turned around and say, did you see that? That's what a micro trend?

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Speaker 1: You remember? Caw next caw, next game?

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Speaker 2: I still have them?

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Speaker 1: Please don't please?

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Speaker 2: All right? What is something regarding menopause that you don't think is spoken about enough, and this one. We could do an episode of this, but.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna need atause. I'm telling you that is something not spoken about enough. Yeah, we talk today about menopause, about every aspect of it. I think, what do you think we don't talk about?

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Speaker 2: Well, you and I talk all about it, But I think the question is in general that people in general.

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Speaker 1: Like tiring women for menopause, that that's yeah, well, I'll just I'll start with one.

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Speaker 2: I think that, first of all, for me, menopause was easy. And I've had this conversation. I don't know, I don't know what a hat flash.

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Speaker 1: Is, so, but people don't want to hear that. Catherine there are sweating.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know. But I think that what people don't talk enough about is the specific of what it means to go through menopause. You know, everything drives up, you turn into a prune, but also what you can do to make it better or what you shouldn't do. I think people talk about it's like, you know, running up to the edge of a cliff and you don't know that there's a big fault. It's like you know that cliff is coming. You know, women know menopause is coming and then oh my god, I hit menopause and they don't know what to do or what to think about it because nobody prepared them for.

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Speaker 1: The And a lot of people just think, Okay, I'm going to have hot flashes and I'm going to do this. In this it happens to your brain as well. It's your entire body, your brain. You think differently you go through I don't want to call it a depression, but there's some people that I've helped going through this to get them back on tracks. There are things you can do. There's there's hormone replacement, there's bioidentical hormone replacement. It but the way you think is not the way you used to think.

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Speaker 2: I think exactly. Maybe I haven't gone through menopause yet.

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Speaker 1: Do you don't remember? Like the latter of desire to be with your husband sexually. A lot of women go through that. I mean, my one of my best friends, his wife, he goes God, I said, I'll talk to her. I don't know what to tell you though.

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Speaker 2: That's but that proves my point that women maybe for some women, they have decreased sexual desire. Some women have you know, crazy outbursts some people get depressed. I don't think those things are talking about that. You may experience some of these things. All right, since you're not going to write a little book, we're gonna write a book.

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Speaker 1: How about Kathy. Do is there anything that you think needs to be debunked when it comes to menopause?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well of several things. But I debunks suggests that it's not true. I didn't have decreased sexual desire, so.

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Speaker 1: We'll say symptom. But that's me.

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Speaker 2: So I'm saying when they or or the fact that everyone has hot flashes, there is no everybody has every one of these things.

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Speaker 1: I don't have no symptoms, no thought.

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Speaker 2: I don't take hormones. Well, I don't take hormones. You do, I don't know enough about them. I think that's one thing people for a long time, it was, do not take hormones. You know they cause cancer. I don't take them, so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I got your name with the breast cancer that came out and wrote a book and oh my brain, that's part of menopause.

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Speaker 2: Menopause.

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Speaker 1: She wrote what's her name?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't read it. I was too busy messing around on the internet, see what the micro trends are. I have no idea anyway. I just think that menopause looks different for everybody. And the more research you do, the more you learn about it, the more questions you ask, the better off your going to be.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's true, it's true. And a lot of people are ignorant. They don't want to they don't want to know because they're not going to go through menopause, right, They're just going to skate through. That's some people's mentality thing that's not going to happen to me.

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Speaker 2: And then it's a train wreck sometimes.

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Speaker 1: And it is true.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this next question, what questions should you be asking yourself if your unsure marriage is right for you? I have to tell you I have a young friend. A lot of my friends are younger than I. This particular young lady was here last night. We were having a glass of wine, chit chatting, and she met her boyfriend when she was eighteen. She said, Kathy, I listen to your podcast. I love you. You get such great advice. And then she came out with it. Do you think that she's now twenty three, I'll soon to be twenty four? Do you think that I'm too young, like I should be dating other men, because he's the only one I've ever dated. And I was like, I'm two glasses of wine in and you know I've always I met well, I said, there's no right or wrong answer. I met my husband at eighteen. In general, I can tell you what I said. In general, I would not advise anyone to date the same guy from eighteen and marry him. But in her case, in my case, for sure, and I actually think in her case, we were lucky we met this great guy. Her guy is amazing, and you know, sometimes God gives you what you need when you're really young.

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Speaker 1: So there's really no a good answer for that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I did tell her. I did say to her, you guys, before they're talking now about moving in, I said, you do all couples when you're talking about marriage, you know, it's not just buying the cute little white picket fence house and having the baby and the baby cares and of course getting a doodle something dog. It's also having the conversation about money and children and who's going to work, and how are you going to divide respond Tob wrote all those things, and I said, that to her, and I said, have you had any of those conversations? She said no, and I said, well, I'd start having those before I decide to move in.

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Speaker 1: She did you read into that? Maybe she was curious about dating somebody.

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Speaker 2: Else or no? She said, I love She said no that her friends are saying to her, you know you need to date other men. You're too young. You haven't dated on the men. And I said, do you feel like you want to? And she goes, not really, it's just like all my friends say I should. So it makes me wonder am I doing the wrong thing? You know? That's a that is a dead end question you need For some people they wake up at thirty and say what the hell did I do? And other people stay married and are so glad they found their person young.

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Speaker 1: There's no is there anything you think needs you have to What questions would you ask yourself if your unsure marriage is right for you? What advice would you give to that question? Like somebody ask yourself what questions?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's hard for me because I was married, but I think I think you I'd have to ask myself is living with someone else going to make my life better? Am I going to have an enriched life by opening my life up to this other person and bringing him in to.

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Speaker 1: Something that comes to my mind, because I've learned over the years, when the as they say, honeymoon is over, is he everything you want? It's always so good in the beginning, the first six months to a year, that's the honeymoon, and then you get used to each other's habits and all, can you live with a B and C that he does? Or can he live with you that you do? The habits you got to look really deep, and it's hard when you're in that honeymoon phase.

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Speaker 2: Right. What you said, is the everything you want? If you find a man that's everything you want, stop the presses and let me know. Because there are no perfect people. There's no perfect marriage, and there's no way you want. I know what I want, and I know what I'm willing to use the key.

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Speaker 1: That's the key what you just said, the compromise part, because there is no perfect anybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah there is not. So I think that those are the questions. Am I better off with this person? Does he enrich my life or not? And and honestly, could I see myself forging a lifelong experience with this person.

00:24:45
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about if they're not sure about just keeping them as their partner, whether they're living together and they don't have to do the actual marriage. Do you have no you pro or you against it?

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I think you have to be married to have a lifelong partner. Is that what you're asking?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, of course for young people or our age people. Are you thinking about our age either?

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Speaker 2: Or I will say I'm a bit old fashioned. If if you're going to have children, I think you should be married. I know I'll take flat for saying that, but I believe in the institution of marriage, and I have particularly believe in it if you decide that you're going to bring children into the world. But otherwise, I have no problem at our age. I have no.

00:25:34
Speaker 1: Problem with the partnership. Yeah.

00:25:36
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily have a problem with marriage either, but I at my age, but I certainly don't have a problem with a partnership.

00:25:50
Speaker 1: Is there anything you're tired of seeing women put up with in romantic relationships with men?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

00:25:58
Speaker 1: Baby, let a rip? How long do we have? Look at the face? I can't just okay.

00:26:09
Speaker 2: I can't. I just can't. I can, but I can't. You get me.

00:26:13
Speaker 1: I'm tired of seeing women put up with the way their spouse or significant other talk to them. If they talk to them rude, or they talk to their mothers that we've said before, that's called respect. I don't like seeing that when he bosses her or tells her what to do. I've seen it in airports. I've seen it on the beach like they were having a little tip or whatever. The way he talked her, Why would you put up with that? Punch him in the face.

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Speaker 2: I mean, no, no, no, no violence, no no no. But I think that this is more of a heady answer to this. But I hate when I see people at any age and I hear and it's usually the woman saying, I gave it my dreams of being blank fill it in the blank because my husband wanted this, or because we had children and my husband thought I should stay home. Whatever it is I am. I think that women give up their dreams sometimes too easily. And I think the younger generations. You know my daughter, my daughter in law, they both work and have very successful careers. But I will say to you, when kids are sick. A lot of my friends I told you. I have a lot of friends with kids and my friends in their forties, and they are the ones that are staying home with a sick kid, not the husband. So I just hate to see women diminished at any time by anyone. That would be my short answer to that question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of things we could go on and on, but I mean, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a real you know what bookmark that we should do a whole episode on it, and you all listening right in the things, Yeah, because I'll bet we would get some great answers to that one.

00:28:20
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

00:28:21
Speaker 2: All right, we are going to do a new segment tell us about it is.

00:28:27
Speaker 1: It's called the INDs and the Outs for twenty twenty six. All right, now, before we go, we're going to give you guys our ins and outs for twenty six. Ends are what we want to see more of an outs or what we don't want to see this year. We'll take turns reading our INDs and then our outs. I'll start us off, all right, all right, where's my list? Okay, dokie.

00:28:56
Speaker 2: I hope it's not too long. This is not a three hour podcast. We can't go over ten Okay, give me your first one.

00:29:05
Speaker 1: Uh. As far as the Golden Bachelor or The Bachelor, I would like to see more one on one dates on a show. That's one of my things.

00:29:15
Speaker 2: Okay, that's for the show.

00:29:17
Speaker 1: Yes, self care just for me, power walking, just taking care of me.

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Speaker 2: I would love. Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hang out to dry hair. So you would like to take care of yourself. We're gonna do one and one. We're just gonna go back and forth here. Okay, you're so you you would like to take better care of yourself, get do more walking. Okay, here's my second PSA for the day. I love you to pieces, but you do what I'm always saying on my videos that I do about working out. You are a weekend warrior. You go out and you do it and you are sore and you're tired, and you're like, yeah, I couldn't do it. I was too sore. So please yes, in twenty twenty six, I want you to be all in with exercise, but you've got to start slowly, all right, all right. In one of my ins so everyone knows, I love to read. I was a writer by training, had several jobs newspaper writing, a lot of writing in my life. Here's here's the oddity. People always give me journals to write in. I have a stack of blank journals and so one of the writers, right, I am going to try to write to fill up pages in those churchys.

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Speaker 1: Just once a day, just just me, just once a day.

00:30:41
Speaker 2: I'm thinking once a week.

00:30:42
Speaker 1: You know what my problem is when I start writing, I don't stop. I don't stop.

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Speaker 2: I well, you know what I do when I write. That's your You hit on something when I write in a journal or write something. Because I'm such a grammar queen, I'm like, oh no, I could say that better, and I scratch it out. So it's like, just Kathy, just write it down and get out, you know, turn the page. All right, what's your next? One?

00:31:06
Speaker 1: Another one is to listen but speak my truth.

00:31:12
Speaker 2: I like that to everyone. Mm hmm okay. When you say speak your truth, what does that mean to you?

00:31:21
Speaker 1: Speak my truth? If I'm asked a question or an opinion, I'm going to give them the right answer, the real answer.

00:31:26
Speaker 2: It's my mean, not the right answer necessarily, but how you really feel an answer for me? Your true answer, how you feel about it.

00:31:32
Speaker 1: If I'm that's good, I'm going to tell the truth. Yeah about you next?

00:31:36
Speaker 2: All right? I and actually we had talked about this. We have one of the same ones. Yes, I and Susan we both no, no, no, we would like to do more in person, more in person interviews for the podcast because I think.

00:31:55
Speaker 1: That's great to have them in the room with us. That's like you buy that.

00:32:01
Speaker 2: Body language. I know our producers aren't listening, but we'll tell them later. But I think there's a difference when you interview someone and you can look them in the eye in person.

00:32:12
Speaker 1: I know I see, but yeah, but it's energy exactly.

00:32:18
Speaker 2: So that's a that's an in for me. All right, what about you?

00:32:20
Speaker 1: Okay? I also have my Irish schoolbys. I like them. It takes twenty five extra minutes when you're ready to leave if you have to think about it. Everybody, I mean normally just the post or something you sneak out. I'm into Irish coobys.

00:32:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I never used to be, but I'm learning. I did one the other night, actually, just slip out.

00:32:46
Speaker 1: You know.

00:32:46
Speaker 2: I was at a party and I just kind of slipped out. It was great. I like it. Okay, I've got a simple one here. Okay, I'm demonstrating it right now. Drink more water, always, always, always the inn for me.

00:33:02
Speaker 1: This year, I'm going to try a lot of new restaurants and write reviews on them. You know how much I'm a foodie. I'm thinking, why I have not been doing this for so long?

00:33:15
Speaker 2: Where are you going to write the reviews a Google? Oh? Oh, you mean leave leave a Google a review on Yes, I thought you meant like write be a restaurant critic. You just mean write a review and leave it on Google for people to.

00:33:29
Speaker 1: Say, for other people to try.

00:33:32
Speaker 2: Oh God, beware, Susan doesn't.

00:33:37
Speaker 1: In every state.

00:33:39
Speaker 2: Okay, here's another strange one I have. I have people, because they know I love to read, give me books, and because I travel out, I have a kindle, so I read a lot of books on my kindle. So I have a stack of books upstairs. So one of my inns this year is and I love turning pages, but I don't like lugging books through airports. But one of my inns is going to read less on the kindle and have the feel and the weight of a book in my hands. And that great feel of the smell of a book and turning the page.

00:34:10
Speaker 1: Good for you, I prefer.

00:34:13
Speaker 2: And additionally, I'm going to add in because I was an English major and I loved British literature and American literature. I'm a nerd, a geek, I know it. I want to go back. And I don't read three or four classics this year, you know, like Gone with the Wind, Lolita, just some of the classics that I haven't read since I was in school. So changing my reading.

00:34:39
Speaker 1: And my last one for the ends would be time with friends and family.

00:34:43
Speaker 2: Oh I have that one too.

00:34:44
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, now let's do Oh.

00:34:47
Speaker 2: Wait, I've got one more. I want to get a couple more. I want to get out of my kayak more because you know, I work out like a fiend, but I want to get out. I own a kayak, I live on the lake. I want to get out of my The problem is it's a two man kayak and I can't manage it on my own. So you know I want to I want to. Uh, I want to do that, And I also also want I have Do you have a junk drawer, Susan?

00:35:16
Speaker 1: Yes?

00:35:17
Speaker 2: Is that singular or plural?

00:35:18
Speaker 1: One? And I organize it every six of.

00:35:20
Speaker 2: Course you do. I am trying to reduce my junk drawers to one. That is my end. I want to have one junk drawer.

00:35:31
Speaker 1: All right, for the Alps, We're going to name a few at a time. Okay, all right, you want to start.

00:35:37
Speaker 2: Oh I got a few, Okay, Well my most ok okay, my most serious, Well, my most serious one is I am going to out for me is trying to tell others how to live their lives and how they can make their lives better. Uh, if they want to live drama, let them lift the drama. I'm gonna get out my box of popcorn and just watch it. Watch the whole thing evolved. And and okay another well, and the funny one is I want to stop worrying about my hair. Oh god, I'm out. I'm tired of worrying about my hair. What about you?

00:36:15
Speaker 1: Okay? I am over the word TA like, give me the T the T I'm sick of here and tea.

00:36:23
Speaker 2: That's all Susan read. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, this is not my list, but let's talk about it. Do you know one I'm going to imitate? Do you know one of the words that. First of all, I have two things using me when you mean I. I want to just jump through you know jump I always yeah, and you say me when you mean I. But that's a whole nother we'll give a grammar lesson another another you know episode the other word that dries. It wasn't on my list, but now it is because you can bring up yours like like I really feel like it's like younger generation. Stop using the word Okay, there are words.

00:37:04
Speaker 1: I Also an out for me is the spur of the moment online purchases, which is.

00:37:10
Speaker 2: Oh God, put Amazon out of business.

00:37:13
Speaker 1: And stop taking online criticism, personally uncomfortable shoes, overpriced coffee, tipping without getting a service. Have you been to the store and I want a gratuity? What do you mean you didn't help me. I brought your job and.

00:37:35
Speaker 2: Give me an example. Give me an example. I just did what listen you said, going and bringing something like give me your going to a store.

00:37:43
Speaker 1: You're purchasing something, you go get it yourself, you bring it to the counter, and they want to know if you want to tip. Their job is to bring that up. Oh police, yes it happens.

00:37:53
Speaker 2: I thought you meant not tipping for bad service.

00:37:57
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm just going to go through the rest of my Then you could do yours. Vegan leather?

00:38:03
Speaker 2: Okay, what's what do you animals?

00:38:06
Speaker 1: Astronomical? There is no vegan leather. It's not leather.

00:38:11
Speaker 2: It's plastic leather.

00:38:12
Speaker 1: Is leather?

00:38:14
Speaker 2: Does that mean you're going back to leather?

00:38:18
Speaker 1: I am also out with less than eight hours of sleep, and people pleasing all the time, and my last but not least, stop trying to do it all, and the power of saying now, I don't wait, how about her?

00:38:37
Speaker 2: And I got some questions on yours?

00:38:38
Speaker 1: Oh god, you can question mine their mine?

00:38:42
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't understand. When you see out with vegan leather, does that mean you're gonna wear real leather?

00:38:48
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I prefer I don't believe that I have to pay what I would pay for real leather when it's not really leather. They're calling it vegan leather. There's no such thing.

00:39:00
Speaker 2: Well, it's plastic leather is leather? Okay?

00:39:03
Speaker 1: Do you like paying four hundred dollars for a pair of vegan paints?

00:39:06
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't really buy four hundred dollars vegan pants. And one more question, does this mean you're not gonna wear fake fur? You're gonna buy the really don't coat. Okay, don't tell anyone that you're gonna get painted on your coat next time you're in New York City. Okay, I I'm I'm out with leaving my clothes unhung in my closet. I'll come in there. Sometimes I just throw them on the chair, and that's that's got to end. I got to clean up that closet right after I finish my junk doors. I'm gonna head into.

00:39:36
Speaker 1: My closet after she makes her coffee, after.

00:39:40
Speaker 2: After I have some freshly grind coffee that took me two hours to make. Okay, Then I so spending so much time on social media. I want to enjoy the minute I'm living through my eye, the lens of my eye, not the lens of my iPhone. And that's a big one for me.

00:40:03
Speaker 1: That's good.

00:40:04
Speaker 2: And then my last one is speaking of micro whatever they are micro fashion, I am sick to death. We talked about it. Short rompers, and it's not because I can't wear them. They are out for me because should I decide to wear a short romper or a long romper. You can't pee in them, it's too hard. I do pick clothes, No, absolutely no, And I'm not having my clothes on the floor in a public bathroom. So short rompers of all sorts, robbers of all sorts are out for me.

00:40:38
Speaker 1: You didn't like the one with uncomfortable shoes. I'm so over.

00:40:42
Speaker 2: I don't wear uncomfortable, Susan, I've never I'm from Boston. We wear sensible Oxfords. No, you don't. We do not wear I mean I don't. I don't have what to call it on the side of your foot. You have one what do they call a bunyon? Get get rid of the because we have.

00:41:00
Speaker 1: Wear heels and pumps. I did hair and was a flight intendant for years. And nowadays the flight attendants they wear ugly shoes.

00:41:09
Speaker 2: Can I just tell you the Can I just tell you the career that's going by the wayside because everyone wears sneakers. Now sneakers used to be what's wrong with it? He's got sneakers on you? Now cool style? I wear it with the podiatrists. Pediatrists are screwed. No one's got any feed problems anymore. Oh that was that really was fun. Okay. You know we have a lot of ins and outs, but friendship is definitely an end with you, my dear always always Okay. Thanks so much to our listeners. We hope you enjoyed this as much as we did. Please make sure you're sending us your questions. It's very easy to do. Just go to Bachelor nation dot com slash Golden Hour. We love dishing out advice. We want to hear urines and outs. We want to hear how menopause was for you, all of it.

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