2-Year Anniversary "Listeners' Choice" - A Cécred Place w/ Tina Knowles

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Speaker 1: Hey, sweeties, it's CHRISTOPHERINEE Hazen and this is a special reair of a truly unforgettable episode of Keep It Pausive. Sweetie, Miss Tina Knowles grace us with her strength, grace and wisdom, and boy did she leave a mark. From sharing the beauty of reinventing yourself at any stage in life to her deep reflections on motherhood, legacy, and love. This conversation resonated deeply with our kids family. So many of you reached out saying how seen and inspired you felt by her vulnerability and her power. If you're tuning in for the first time or revisiting this gym, prepare to be uplifted by a woman who continues to walk in purpose and style, the matriarch herself, Miss Tina Knowles.

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Speaker 2: He sends us things in the time that we are ready for. Yes, So if something is not working out and you keep trying and it's not working out, then I'm not saying give up on it, just keep it on a maybe put it on the back burner for a minute, focus on something else, and it might be just you, yourself and what you're doing in your life, and are you really doing everything that you can to manifest and to claim these things and make them happen. And then you say, oh, wow, you know what I'm not doing enough of is centering myself and focusing. I'm just kind of so anxious for this to happen that I'm not doing my very best at it and it ain't time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much as thank you for having me. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I know you're busy and you got a lot going on, so just your time means a lot. Thank you. Yeah. So I want to first talk about the day I first met you. I don't know if you remember this, but we were backstage for Tyler Perry's Medea Farewell to her here in La and I was in the back waiting on Tyler to come out. And he comes out of the room and he goes, come here. I didn't know who was in the room, really, I had no idea. He was like, come in here, and I walked in and it's you, and I'm like hello. But you were so sweet from the moment I met you, and every time I see you it's always warm greetings and I appreciate that. But yeah, always like to tell how I met the first of course. Yeah, it was so funny, Yeah, that was that was a memorable night. So good. It's so good. I always try to pop in and see it when he's on the road. He had just to check on him. Yeah, but that was a fun time. Everyone knows you. We were introduced to you in the nineties as Beyonce's mom. But I want to know who Tina knows is and where Tina comes from. So tell us just a little bit about you.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I grew up in Galveston, Texas, in the South, and grew up really poor. Found out later that my parents bordered for me to go to private school. Really they were that she did all the sewing for the church and my dad showed for the nuns, and you know, we were like indentured servants for them, which wasn't the best experience for me, but it prepared me for a lot in my life, and I appreciate their sacrifice. Just grew up in Galveston, this little island and so it's like a tourist town. It was fun growing up there. And you know, I got in a makeup early. That was my first job. I was a makeup artist's real job, and just wanted to do something in beauty. Yeah, couldn't wait to get out of a little one hearts town because it's not that big. And you know, my journey has just been I call it God giving me the tool He just filled my toolbox with all these experiences in my life that helped me to do everything I'm doing today. So I'm not you know, I went to a short time to college, but you know, I've been able to have an education in life and in experiences and travel that I don't think I could have paid for. So it's been really great. I mean that makeup modeling, some doing hair. I had a hair salon for yeah, yes, for many, many years, and it was just a great experience because I got to make women feel beautiful, which is my favorite thing in the world. And it was a positive space for women to support each other and network before we knew what networking was. And you know, I've watched your podcasts and what I love about it is the positivity because there's so much negative right now. I can hardly stand some of the podcasts that people have just to sit down and tear people down and put out all negative, lying information, a lot of it about my family. So to see something like this positive even the name of it, just makes me happy. So it was important that I come and do this because we should support these positive things because they help us. The other stuff hurts us. It does oh yeah, the negativity hurts us, and it doesn't do anything for anybody's self esteem. It's crabbing a barrel mentality. And this is amazing what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate that. So you talk about the negative media just because I'm really pretty need to success and I didn't understand what I was signing up for. Yeah, and I'm telling you it took me to probably this year and this is going on four years that i've really been known that I'm finally to the point where I can be like, you don't know me. I'm not gonna take it personal, but in the beginning, it really really hurts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and even I mean, I've been in the business for you know, dealing with this business for over twenty years, and some things just go too far. Yes, So I'm quiet and I'm cool about it. But you know, you mess with my grand babies, you mess with mine. You will speak up why all my children? I will speak up because I think it's important to have that balance and I think that something has to you just can't keep taking it, you know, even though you know that it's not true and all of that, but some things are below the belt and they are just unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I love that about you. You will speak up. I'm like telling Mama for real, because there's moments where you I see you just kind of let things fly under the radar, but when you need to speak up, you do. Yeah, and I appreciate that. Yeah, I know that's real, but yeah, I definitely I can empathize with you on that because it does hurt. Yeah, yeah, especially if you're not used to it. And then something's like you don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Me, liken, they blatantly lying get away with them.

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Speaker 1: You know that's not fair? Yeah, yeah, that is so true. You talked about growing up and that your mom was a seamstress and they bartered for you to go to private school. Did you always look at my past and the journey that God has put us on, and then how everything that we learned along the way ends up literally, So you've made all the I mean made used to make wardrobe for the deasing child, and I I thought that was so cool. I'm like, oh my goodness, her mom makes all these outfits. That was so cool. But it's amazing now hearing the backstory that your mother was also a seamstress.

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Speaker 2: So she was a seamstress. And also, you know, just even like I think about it, my modeling, you know, I was able to teach the girls how to walk and how to present themselves and how to look good in their clothes and that type of thing from you know, my hair salon, just doing interviews and that type of thing. Everything that I've ever learned that I've done in my life, I've been able to apply it to them, you know.

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Speaker 1: So it's been great and you've done it very well. We see it. Yes, I'm really good friends with Angie. Yes, your niece, and I see and she plays in a salon on a show that we're on, The Sisters, and it's so cool. How like we'll be studying together and we'll she'll talk about what's going on in the scripts and she goes, this isn't right. We wouldn't do this. I was raising it.

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Speaker 2: So she was raised in the salon. Yes, she was right there.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love that, And I feel like salons are so so much a part of our history as black women.

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Speaker 2: It's therapy. It's spiritual, it's camaraderie, it's just woman power. It is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now fast forward, you have your own hair care, hair care products named Sacred Yes with your daughter Beyonce.

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Speaker 2: Actually they're Beyonce's product.

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Speaker 1: It's not just yeah, it seems like you're working with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, of course I've had a lot to do with it, but that's her product.

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Speaker 1: Okay, awesome. So what does that life for the family, Because it seems like it's a collective project.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is, from on down to testing on blue and roomy and you know, everybody in the family and their input, but mainly the experience from my salon because we got to get years and years of experience and I knew what was needed and what was missing in the market, because you know, when I had my salon, I had to buy high end white products and mix them with things that I knew that we needed for our hair, like an olive oil and egg whites and avocado. So and you can tell y'all was always mixing up these concoctions and so this started a long time ago. But I feel like we need we needed one product that you could get the high tech science and all of those ingredients and somebody that understood mixing those together in one product, because you can't have one without the other. And education, just a lot of education about how to use the products and how to balance protein, will wasisterre and things that people we take for granted, but people don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to come by and you can do my hair. You gotta take these brains out. Wait, yes, get your hands in these hands. I got a lot of hair, now, I know you do I know? Oh yeah, cause I think she's I'm gonna send this picture. Yeah, take a picture and send its like since my auntie. It's a lot of hair. So I feel sorry for anybody who has to wash it and cone through it.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. A lot of people think things like that happen overnight. How many years did it take for you guys to really get it down to a science.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because I say that it took probably twenty years. But we've been working on a product for six years. And we worked on it for a while and then we stopped because it's a very time consuming thing. Where you are, you know, anybody can go and get some products and say this is what I want the product to do. This is what But not with this bunch because we grew up, you know, they grew up in a hair salon, and I've studied all the science and I knew what I was looking for. So where as people send products back maybe three or four times, it is very expensive to produce and for you to go through all the scientific tests and all that, and then they give the product to us and be would say, and I don't have enough slip in it, not westernizing enough, you know, and I would be like, how much protein is it? An easily absorbable protein will be easy for people to use. Like it's so many things that go into hair products. They are not like makeup. Yeah, you put your name on it, and it's kind of the same ingredients. You have to come up with your ingredients to make this. And it's a science. So and our testing has been so extensive, like we test and test and tests, and then we bring it into our tests alon and we test it on our people and ourselves. So it's been a long process, but I couldn't be more proud of it. And we have so many products coming out because every time there's a need we think, Oh my god. You know, we get feedback every day. I did a zoom this morning with about seven hundred stylars and the questions that they come up with and the things that they want to know. I'm like, oh wow, we need to work on a product for that because there are so many needs.

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Speaker 1: It is, there's so many different hair types. Yes, I know for me, my bathroom, my shower is full of different products. It's not just one thing works on my hair.

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Speaker 2: To mix this with this and yeah, yeah, as long as the you know, the products intertwined and they work with each other. But if you can find a line that you like, a lot of things in it, especially the foundation. And that's why it's called the Foundation Collection, because you know, the foundation of healthy hair is you know, you balancing protein with washturizers and oils, and we need butters in our hair. It's complicated in textured hair. But the great thing is we knew that if we conquered textured hair, then it will work on anybody, right, because we're the hardest we are. You know, our different hair textures, so many different hair taxes, and our hair is more thirsty, it's more dry, it's more fragile. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. When I put my hair holds onto water water like it takes forever for it to drive. I just yes. Yeah. So I always like when they're like, oh, your hair is still with I'm like, I know, and it's like twenty four you got a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of hair rights. That's half the part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's so true. We talk about the journey that it took to get to where you are now with the hairline, but also I feel like that applies with life. Yeah, and there's different parts of life. Has there been any moment where you're like, God, I'm ready for this to come to fruition, but it's taken too long. And what did you do in those moments where you felt like, all right, Lord, what's happening in here?

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Speaker 2: I don't have meant I have the honestly said, I have not had a lot of moments like that. And I think it's because I always have five projects I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I know, that's right.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's always so many things going on that he sends us things in the time that we are ready for him. So if something is not working out and you keep trying and it's not working out, then I'm not saying give up on it, just keep it on a maybe put it on the back burner for a minute, focus on something else. And it might be just you and yourself and what you're doing in your life, and are you really doing everything that you can to manifest and to claim these things and make them happen. And then you say, oh, wow, you know what I'm not doing enough of is centering myself and focusing. I'm just kind of so anxious for this to happen that I'm not doing my very best at it. And it ain't time, that's right, But it's always so many things going on in my life that you know, sometimes things have taken a long time. It took a long time. And this isn't even me, but with Destiny's Child is perfect example of It took from the time they were ten til they were fifteen. Wow, like five years. And that's the lifetime when you're that young, it is. And they lost on Star Search and they got dropped by the first person, then they got dropped by the second person. But anything worth having is worth sticking in there. But sometimes you gotta go back and regroup and make yourself better. Yes, and and and it's not the world it it's you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true, ye speaking of that Destiny's child and taking five years to get to a stable position. What are some things that are principles that you instilled in the girls at a very young age to say, hey, I know this is tough, and you're probably like, mind, why isn't this happening right now? Yeah? What cause I know we look at your daughters and be like, whoa, you know what I'm saying, They've made it, But what are some of those things that you instilled in them as they were growing.

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Speaker 2: Up to just you know what my parents taught me that's so valuable is that nothing comes easy good. I mean, nothing good comes easy. You got to work for it. And if you want to be successful, it's no shortcuts. You got to put in the work. You got to put in the training. And for them, you know, losing and they were very talented, but they just weren't ready and so it came when it was time to come. They were too young, and so I would always say to them, just go back and work harder, you know, just regroup and take a look and in the meantime, have fun and balance it. Don't make that you know, people get so caught up and what they want to accomplish that they don't have any fun. They don't have any family time. That's not good either. They got to balance it, and you gotta balance it well. Whatever your spirituality and your higher power is, make them a part of it. It's so important.

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Speaker 1: It is it is. Speaking of spirituality. You have done a lot of partnership with your pastor back in Texas. What is has your faith and spirituality? How has it guided you through your life?

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Speaker 2: Oh? My God, I just know that nothing, that everything good that happens in my life that I believe that it is sent by God, you know. And it's like my parents were, you know, they were devout Catholics, and one thing they taught me is that that's a part of the whole picture. If you don't have God or spirituality or like I said, a higher power. I'm not saying one particular religion over. I'm not talking about religion. I'm talking about some body that when everything is going wrong, you can lean on other than your mama and your sister and your brother, because we're only here for a time. But God is always with you, you know. And I was taught that from an early age, and I think that that has guided me through that and also to whom much is given, much is required. So I was taught very early to tithe, to give back, to balance it. And there are times in my life when I got away from that, you know, and I'm like all about myself, especially in my twenties, I'm like, you know, I'm popping, I'm going out, I'm partying, I'm having fun, and it was not about giving back, absolutely, and those times in my life would challenging and they were harder.

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Speaker 1: You can see and yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you can see it. And I can see when I get away from centering myself, away from my prayers, away from my giving back and taking the time to do that, that things don't go so well. So you know, I believe that to be true for myself, and so I just try to keep it where I give back constantly. I try to be positive, I try to be you know, a good person, and it's just worked for me because things just come to me all the time. I've never been broke. I've never been you know, had really really bad financial times. And I believe that that's because I.

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Speaker 1: Tith, yes, yes, no, I'm telling you I have him. There was a moment in my life where it was really really hard for me, and to the point where tithing was a struggle because I'm like, Lord, I ain't really got it to give, you know. And I remember I think I was making six hundred dollars every two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And this is when I first moved to Atlanta to pursue music and acting. So this was two thousand and nine, not that long ago. And I remember sitting in church and I was like, herd, I'm gonna give you this sixty dollars, you know what I'm saying, But I know I can do a lot more with this. And the very next day a friend of mine was like, hey, I got six hundred dollars for you. I said, my Lord, I said, okay, I get literally. And it's crazy how he will as soon as you put your faith in him and give him what because all of it's is anyway, that's right. But when you give him what he asked for, He's gonna continue to provide. And those moments where I was not giving. I even hired my manager de Nora because I saw that she obeyed a post about tithing, and I was like, if she ties. I was like, I know, and trust her to manage me and my money and all those things, because if you don't, if you don't think that's important, then I.

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Speaker 2: Really just know what to tell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's interesting because when I was little, we were very poor, and I was told all the time, we can't afford it. Like every time my mom, I will say, we can't afford because that was always we can't afford you know, your clarinet, for you to be in a band. We can't afford you to go to dance class. We can't afford all the things that I wanted to do. And and you know, but my mom would put that money in church. And I'll be like, you know what I could do with that money. And you're always saying we don't have money, but you always put money in church. We're poor, we can't afford to put the money in church. And she said, Teenie, that is yeah, they called me teeny. She said, that is how we make it. That's how we eat, that's how we live. And you got to understand that, you know, that's how we're making it. And you know, when I think back on it, my dad was sort of disabled because he had no hearing in his left ear, and he couldn't see in his right ear right eye because he was in the mind exposure. So he could only work certain jobs at his job. And there were times when we got forty five dollars a week, which is what they called the pennies, but it's unemployment because if it wasn't work, you could apply for unemployment forty five dollars a week with a family of seven people, and we made it all the time because and so I didn't understand it when I was young, I was still pissed. But when I got older, I understood that that's what she was talking about, because how did we manage to live and to be very fashionable even though we didn't have any money. We were sharp all the time, but we never went hungry. And I really didn't even realize how poor I was till I got older. Yeah, so that's how we made it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I love it. That is beautiful. That's beautiful. There's other things that you've done besides hair, having your own hair salon, but you were also big in fashion. Yes, you had the Hauseidarion and Miss Tina by Tina Knowles. How exciting was that to take everything that you learned from your mom and create your own line.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was so much fun, you know, haw Sadirion was. It was amazing because it was really kind of was born because of the fans asking where can we get this? And we want the clothes, and it was such a fun time for us. And you know, it's defunct now because we you know, we decided to give it up because we just could didn't have the right partners and they just had a whole different direction for the brand than we did. Wow, they wanted to be very junior. They wanted to be fast fast, like fast fashion when logos that big everywhere, and you know, it just got to the point where we didn't enjoy it, right, But it was a very successful brand.

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Speaker 1: I have. I definitely you had. I did, that's right, because the jeans were started.

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Speaker 2: They first started jeans, and I took all those tricks of tailoring from my mom and put them in the jeans. And I don't think it's any They were some of the top genes to fit behind.

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Speaker 1: They were they give.

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Speaker 2: You a nice shape, you know. But yeah, it's passion. I've always had a passion for fashion. My nephew, Johnny and I used to design our own clothes. We were always voted the best dress. We were, you know, just always sharp. And that's what that's the funny thing. Being that poor made me more creative. Yes, you know. So my mom's excuse was always, well, you can't have the whatever the jeans were. Jeans weren't the big thing, but like certain styles that I wanted, and she was like, yours is much better because it's more creative. And I'll be like, that's she just telling me that because she don't want to spend the money to buy it for me. But it turned out to childjust to really not just go to the stores and buy stuff, but to look in Vogue magazine, you know, the top magazine and trying to copy those things. And so it gave me a really great knowledge of fashion and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, do you have any plans to create another line?

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Speaker 2: You're don She's like, no, fashion is you know, it's really really hard. I love these products because the products are transforming people's hair. Like I just can't wait till you use it. You'll see the difference.

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Speaker 1: And no, I already have it. I've seen the difference if you have a deep conditioning between my projective styles. The rice water the correct word. It's rice, rice and rose. Yeah, and it makes my hair feel so good. No, I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's I mean, but the products are I'm very, very excited about that, and I just want to expand it to styling products and all of that. So that's what I'm most passionate about right now in terms of, you know, of product, our projects. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love that your grandson, Jules, we actually share the same birthday. Yeah. Yeah, that's how Andrew remembers my birthday because the same birthday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got a very sweet demeanor, like he's a sweetheart.

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Speaker 1: Y'all met him at one of the shows Angie introduced. She's like, it's your birthday. But yeah, I see that he is now modeling. How does that make you feel to see your grandson just like he's in Paris like doing ye did shut back?

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Speaker 2: He I mean, he loves it, and I'm just so happy that he has found his thing. You know, he loves fashion and he's working on a fashion line that was really good. It's a streetwhear line and he's been working on it for the last couple of years, and so I think that's a natural progression for him to go into modeling. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, he's killing it. And when I saw that Fashion Week last fall, I was like, Okay, I see what we're doing here. Yeah, that's amazing. And then Blue Ivy took the world by storm doing during the Renaissance tour. I think I went to like five shows oh wow. We went to the first two in Sweden in Stockholm, and then I went again in Amsterdam. Wow. And then I went to like three shows in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: He was keeping you from us because he came to He came to the very first show him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in the Prairie Circle for the very first show, Like I literally landed because I wasn't coming because I had to do I was prepping the film Going Back for Sisters and because that was in May, like and yeah, during the going into summer, and he's like Christie was like no, so they the crew who over there? And was like, I think Eve or somebody. He's like, see, even just went to my bathroom. He's like, if you were here, this would have never happened because they rode his jet And I was like okay, and then he was like can you please come? And I was like all right. So his Jody booked me a flight to go and I landed and there were welcome head was like they're about to pray if you want to make the circle, So I was like running into the.

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Speaker 2: I know that. Yeah, that was that first show. I was still in that wardrobe room till the last second trying to get those clothes out.

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Speaker 1: So you still do that, like you still?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What I what I do is on the last tour, Beyonce said, well I think that you know, she had a short period of time and she said I want two stylists and I said, you know, we're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Get four because we have such.

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Speaker 2: So I actually found the stylus, put them together, managed and gave them the budgets, and you know, oversaw the whole project. So yeah, but I still got to get in there and saw something somebody to make it fit him some pans or do whatever. Yeah, I love it though, it's fun.

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Speaker 1: I love that now. I remember you made a comment about I think it was you that you were kind of hesitant when they say that Blue is going to perform.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I wasn't hesitant Beyonce was happy, yeah, and she she was like Blue because she want the pressure on her because she knows what that brings, you know, and people are you know, they can be very cruel. And she was like, I just don't want her to get caught up in this. I want her to decide on her own what she wants to do. And so Blue kept asking because every day Blue rehearsed with all the dancers and I was like, she can do it. She is killing it. And then Beyonce said, okay, I'm gonna let you do one city. I'll let you do Paris. And once she did it, that was supposed to be a one time thing. You know, people were so evil at me and saying all these comments. And so one of her friends told her about the comments and it was such a life lesson for her because she was very upset about it. And her mom said, well, you know, you can let them win and you can just give up and say you'll never do it again. But if I were you, I'll go work harder and I would get out there and kill it and shut them up. She did, and she did.

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Speaker 1: That just that you can see her progression every single show. I was like Oh. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: She worked hard though, Yeah, because I mean Blue at the time was eleven, and you know, most of the dancers are at least twenty twenty five, some of them thirty. They've been doing this forever. And they were amazed that she could keep up and learn the choreography and have her own little swag in her own style. She reminded me of Cluge because Solange did the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Really she started.

00:31:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, she started dancing with Destiny's Child when she was thirteen because Kelly broke her toe.

00:31:34
Speaker 1: Wow.

00:31:35
Speaker 2: And when Kelly broke her toe, we were like, we can't stop the show. So I studied Kelly's whole boots and she sat on the studied stool and sung, and Solange danced for her in the same costumes. So, yeah, when she was thirteen, and I was so worried about her because I was like, she's only thirteen and everybody's grown. And she got out there and kept up with them. Sometimes she'll cry, you know, she would be in high altitudes and say I can't do this, and I'm like, yes, you can. You signed up. You gotta finish it. Yeah, because that is my philosophy. You don't have to do anything. But if you sign up for it, you got to finish. Can I sweat?

00:32:15
Speaker 1: My Daddy's always like that bad food, just like I. You're gonna sign up for it, you have to go.

00:32:21
Speaker 2: One proud and you gotta keep it going.

00:32:23
Speaker 1: Wow. And speaking of salone, Solane has found her own voice. Yes, I love that because I've seen her evolution as well. And how does how proud does it make you to see like both of your daughters thriving.

00:32:35
Speaker 2: I've always been proud of them, not only for you know, show business, but just as being good human beings and that's most important. But their success has been great to watch too because they work. They work so hard. My girls work hard, they do Yeah, nothing is given to them, So I'm proud of that.

00:32:56
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Do you ever like wake up some mornings and be like, well, my kids are amazing, you know, like because you're Beyonce is like one of the biggest supersions in the world. Like, do you ever wake up and be like that came out of me?

00:33:12
Speaker 2: Not really, The people say it to me all the time, and I have thought about it, but you know again, I mean, I just feel so blessed to have the kids that I have, and Kelly too, because Kelly, because you know she Kelly is the same. I mean this just the best work ethic and the best person. She still remains the sweetest, kindest, you know, generous person. And that's that's not easy. You know, it's not easy in this business. That's why again I was so impressed that you want to do something called positive, you know, because this business can chew you up and spit.

00:33:51
Speaker 1: You out again, and it makes it really hard. Yes, you really can. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday just about how certain circumstances can really cause you to be guarded and almost make you cold.

00:34:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, to protect yourself, because you have to protect yourself because you know, it's a lot of beasts out there, you know, in this business. I was really scared, you know, when the girls got in and I became so involved in their careers. And people think it's because I'm a stage mother, but it was because I wanted to earn my keep and I wanted to watch them and protect them because you know, it's a scary thing, you know, to try to keep them grounded, saying oh no, no, no, they can pick up their bags, they not their hands not broken. Look people in the eye when you walk into a hotel, I don't care if it's two o'clock in the morning, that is that person. Treat them kind. So I was around to do those things, you know, and I know that that's why they have been able to stay. I'm not the only reason, but part of it is just staying grounded. You know. It's somebody to pop you upside your head, not fl you know. Let you know when you when you're getting a little divadup going on, you.

00:35:05
Speaker 1: Know, that's good. Everybody needs a mama te Yeah. I have good people around me that say, all right, you know. And that's one thing Tyler did instill in me because when I was styling him, I didn't understand because I've been I wanted to be an actor, I wanted to sing, and then he offers me this job, and I'm like, this is not what I was trying to do.

00:35:22
Speaker 2: Lord, that is amazing.

00:35:24
Speaker 1: Yes, But then I prayed about it and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do this.

00:35:27
Speaker 2: Oh you're saying a styling. He offered you the job to stotyle, But I was way into it exactly.

00:35:33
Speaker 1: But I didn't know that at first, I'm just like I just said, God just ordered my steps, Like, if this is what you want me to do, I'm gonna do it, and you will make room for whatever I really want to do if that's in your will. And everything that I learned in those five years of being that close to Tyler have helped me God like literally step into the shoes I'm in today. That's right. Yeah, the same with Angie.

00:35:55
Speaker 2: I feel like all that time of being around show business and it was just tools that she can pull out and it comes out, you know, and so it was an easy transition.

00:36:06
Speaker 1: It was. It's very evident when she's on set she knows even from hair and the hair it's so funny. There's the whole thing that the hairstyle says not putting no conciler on Angie's part.

00:36:19
Speaker 2: She said, I don't want that. Oh I know.

00:36:22
Speaker 1: Angie heavy cracking, but she knows because she's been around it for so long. Even on set, she knows the camera, she knows how things supposed to look. So trans transitions on this set and you can tell that she's been around it all her Yes, yeah, but she's still kind, still sweet and grounded, like you say, she doesn't come in acting like a diva. And I feel like every one that I've met I have met Solange, but b Kelly and Angie all who all came under you. You can see this, So that's also a reflection of you and the things that you taught them, because even when you're not around, they are as sweet as can be. Yeah, everybody, Yeah, that's yeah, No, for sure, let's see to thank you so much.

00:37:04
Speaker 2: This was wonderful.

00:37:04
Speaker 1: Yes, I appreciate you making time and stopping by. We do something at the end of our show called positive Outcome, So if you can hang out with me just for a little bit longer. This is where our listeners write in and we just give them a little advice. Okay, So this one says, Hi, Crystal. I'm a fifty two year old mother of a thirty one year old son. I have two grandchildren who are six and eleven. Our family loves hard and enjoys creating memories with one another. Long story short. I was a single mother raising my son while also taking care of my sickly parents for nineteen years. In two thousand and two, my father had a massive stroke and I had a stroke one month later. Wow, we rerecuperated together. In two thousand and eight, I lost my father, but my mom remained with me and we have some great years together, nurturing her to health emotionally and mentally because she loved and missed my dad. My mom battled with Parkinson's disease and did not walk for the last eleven years. God restored me by taking the best care of her until her death last November. Unfortunately, the last three years of my health declined because of the stress of working forty to fifty hours a week, coming home to care for my mom, which sometimes had me up all night, and having to repeat it the next day. Heart failure in my recovery plan has given me a fresh start, and I'm ready to start dating again. Do you have any dating tips that you can share? Well, girl, you asking the wrong person because she's that part of my life is non existent. Okay, I'll still the people it out. Yeah, no, it is. It's really hard, and I think to just knowing who the right people are and why they're in your life makes it harder for me.

00:38:42
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, very good?

00:38:45
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but if I feel like I didn't get your name, But if you are ready for a fresh start and you feel like you're ready to get back out there. I would one just pray that God opens your heart for the right person. Lot of times when we haven't data for a long time, we can be open to just anything. So I always say, like you said, discernment, use your discernment and make sure the person is right for you. Spend time with people and dates. I feel like a lot of times we meet one person and I'm like, oh, it's my husband. Like no date people, to really kind of filter out the ones that are not for you and then decide, Okay, I really like this person. What would you say with Tina?

00:39:22
Speaker 2: I agree with everything you said, and I think one of the things is that, you know, we talked about manif the station, and I think you gotta manifest what you want and be very very picky about it and pray for what you want, but also get out there, yeah, and open your heart. You know, my best friend decided she was gonna get her a man. She hadn't had a man in fifteen years because she got divorced, and she told me, within six months, I'm gonna have a man. I was like, yeah, right. She absolutely did because she started opening herself up to it. She started going to social events, you know, after church. She didn't rush out. I had to meet people. So she was just determined, and within six months she had a really good man. Probably four months she had a really good man. Had been married for now eight years. What and yeah, so you can't manifest, but you got to get out there because if you're just going to work and coming home, probably ain't gonna.

00:40:18
Speaker 1: Happen, like it's gonna break into your house. Yeah right, I'm sorry, but like that's that's how I'm going. Chris, Like, you don't leave the house, right, I'm like, you can't, you can't, Like, hey, are you here for me? Yeah?

00:40:32
Speaker 2: Well, you know, social events. Volunteer. Now that she's free, she can volunteer for some organizations. And what better way to make somebody who cares about people than in an organization is charitable. So that's I think that's where I'm going.

00:40:47
Speaker 1: I love that.

00:40:48
Speaker 2: So, okay, I know that's right.

00:40:50
Speaker 1: We can go to some charity events together. I told him. It's probably like a month ago. I was in Miami and I was talking to a friend of mine and I was like, I have not spent another high by myself and I was like Lily, I said, God, you gotta told July fourth.

00:41:06
Speaker 2: In a week. So you met somebody this week?

00:41:09
Speaker 1: You mean somebody this week. We pray for it.

00:41:12
Speaker 2: Well, you a beautiful, spiritual, talented young woman, and that's coming.

00:41:18
Speaker 1: I feel it's coming. It is. Thank you so much. Two of the last things we do is we ask our guests what I'm going through and what I'm growing through.

00:41:29
Speaker 2: Okay, can you.

00:41:30
Speaker 1: Share with us something that you may be going through just to inspire people in this season.

00:41:34
Speaker 2: I think what I'm going through is I've been going through losing my siblings. And that's a tough one because it started off with seven of us and now it's only three. And I lost my brother a couple of months ago, and all of a sudden, it just hit me. I'm seventy years old. I can't believe it, and well, thank you, but you know it comes that time. It's that time of life life and that I'm going through it and I'm growing through it because what I decided is that the two that I have left, I'm gonna make a lot of time and I'm gonna spend the time with them and not let so much time pass because I've been negligent with trying to see my my family, and now I'm sad because my brother's gone and I haven't spent as much time. But that's what I'm growing through, you know. It's just trying to pray and not be sad about it.

00:42:28
Speaker 1: Yes, tough, It is tough. Angie has shared with me about your brother, Yeah, said, I was at her house one day and I don't know what, maybe I was about to start up here to something, but she would show me how on the video, like on the camera that she can see him, and I literally started crying. Yeah, and she's like, I was like, oh, I was like, I was like, I'm sorry, but like, just know, even my dad is seventy seventy one now seventy one, and knowing that life is fleeting, and like I want to spend as much time with him as I can, you know. Yeah, And that even that and what she's going through has showed me I've got to make the most of these years.

00:43:02
Speaker 2: You got to make the most of those years. And like her dad is, you know, I want to say he's like seventy seven, but he's blind and you know, there's a lot of health issues. So he was just at my house yesterday. That's that's how I'm growing, is to have him over Sunday, Jacuzzie in the pool and we have barbecue and you know, and I'm gonna make the best of the time that i have left with it. I love that.

00:43:26
Speaker 1: Love That's amazing. Thank you so much.

00:43:29
Speaker 2: This was wonderful. Yes.

00:43:33
Speaker 1: So we do a thing called keep it Blank, sweety, keep it blank, where we keep filling the blank. Right, So I'm going to say, keep it pushing, sweetie, because no matter what life throws that, you just got to keep going. Right. How would you feel in the bank?

00:43:49
Speaker 2: I think I would say keep it moving, which is kind of the same thing, you know, like, keep moving no matter what's going on in your life. It's too shall pass.

00:44:01
Speaker 1: Yes, I love that. Thank you so much, Tina. Th Guys, thank you so much for tuning in to this episode of Keep It Positive. Sweetie. If you want to write into our positive Outcomes listener letter, you can write it into Keep It Positive sweety at gmail dot com. A's Sweetye with an Ie. You can follow me on all platforms at Love Chris Ornee and that's luv missin And tell the people where They can find.

00:44:20
Speaker 2: You on Instagram at Tina and Knowles.

00:44:25
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, make sure you guys tap in with miss Tina. Guys, thank you so much for tuning into this episode. In the meantime in between time you know what to do. Keep it positive, sweetie,