The Northern Apes: Oklahoma Native Reveals the Truth About Bigfoot (They Use Sign Language!)

<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Sasquatch Theory. Today's guest is Josh from Oklahoma,
<v Speaker 1>a Native American man whose family has known about these
<v Speaker 1>beans for generations. Josh calls them Northern apes, and his
<v Speaker 1>encounters go far beyond simple sightings, from sign language communication
<v Speaker 1>to aggressive warnings to cave encounters where the Sasquatch actually spoke.
<v Speaker 1>Josh brings knowledge that has been passed down through his
<v Speaker 1>family for decades. He's seen bigfoot creatures on two legs
<v Speaker 1>and on all fours, heard their hunting calls, and watched
<v Speaker 1>them smash prey against trees. His people say these beans
<v Speaker 1>are the protectors of the land, and tonight Josh is
<v Speaker 1>finally breaking down the silence he was warned never to break.
<v Speaker 1>This is a powerful story. So sit back, relax, and
<v Speaker 1>welcome to the Sasquatch Theory Podcast. If you have a
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot encounter you would like to share with me, feel
<v Speaker 1>free to get in touch with me at Sasquatch Theory
<v Speaker 1>at outlook dot com. With all that being said, let's
<v Speaker 1>dive straight into Josh's bigfoot encounters from the state of Oklahoma.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Josh, Welcome Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today.
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good, brother.
<v Speaker 1>How you doing, I'm doing excellent. Josh. It's a pleasure
<v Speaker 1>to have you on the show today. If you would
<v Speaker 1>tell me a little bit about yourself, where you're from,
<v Speaker 1>and your bigfoot encounters and experiences from the very beginning, please.
<v Speaker 2>All right, I got you. I'm from tuls Oklahoma.
<v Speaker 3>I was raised outside Prattville, Sapopa off Highway ninety seven.
<v Speaker 2>I'm forty three years old.
<v Speaker 3>Now you know, I've been sitting I've been sitting on
<v Speaker 3>these accounts for a long time and just really been
<v Speaker 3>thinking about it. Had a lot of conversations with some
<v Speaker 3>of my native people and they didn't really want me
<v Speaker 3>to come out and say nothing about it because they
<v Speaker 3>feel like it's gonna bring light to them to be
<v Speaker 3>captured or be interrogated and be treated as a like
<v Speaker 3>all when scientists find out about certain creatures or new species,
<v Speaker 3>they figure out they got to figure them out and
<v Speaker 3>shoot one of them and find one dad to find
<v Speaker 3>real evidence. But I'm just here to put the icing
<v Speaker 3>on the cake on all that. Do everybody know that
<v Speaker 3>act these are just regular northern apes that's all around
<v Speaker 3>the continent. Human layas gas some Africa gas some Australia, Gas,
<v Speaker 3>some New Zealand. The list goes on, but I don't
<v Speaker 3>think people really believe it or because they haven't got
<v Speaker 3>real physical evidence.
<v Speaker 2>But it's the reason why they haven't got real evidence
<v Speaker 2>on them like that.
<v Speaker 3>Because so I just want to just tell that story
<v Speaker 3>about what I know about it and.
<v Speaker 2>What I have experienced in my life.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm getting kind of shaken up now because I've
<v Speaker 3>been getting a lot of phone calls Josh, don't say
<v Speaker 3>nothing about nothing is because you're gonna bring light to things,
<v Speaker 3>and now they're really gonna be hunted down, you know.
<v Speaker 3>But I just want to bring light to them to
<v Speaker 3>let people know they're not the monsters that people think
<v Speaker 3>they are. They Yeah, there are some that are vibing,
<v Speaker 3>there are some that are aggressive, and there are some
<v Speaker 3>that love people, you know, say, but they have been
<v Speaker 3>Thomas to stay away from people, you know, because of
<v Speaker 3>what happened with the Native Americans. They've seen how how
<v Speaker 3>Christopher Columbus said he discovered America, But how did he
<v Speaker 3>really discover America when there's already people coming over here
<v Speaker 3>for different countries. So I just want to go into that,
<v Speaker 3>like it was a major, big deal with that, and
<v Speaker 3>people didn't really recognize that the people of the forest
<v Speaker 3>was Native Americans and Northern Naps, and they had a
<v Speaker 3>big deal to do showing the Indians.
<v Speaker 2>Howe to hunt this and that and all that.
<v Speaker 3>They had treaties where they they'll give them certain things
<v Speaker 3>and all that.
<v Speaker 2>But I ain't gonna get into none of that.
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna break the facts down from what my
<v Speaker 3>first sighting that I see. The first sighting was eleven
<v Speaker 3>years old.
<v Speaker 2>See, I'm thinking of now.
<v Speaker 3>I'm starting to get a little like because my people
<v Speaker 3>warn me, like, man, if you tell this story that
<v Speaker 3>everybody's gonna look at you crazy and this and that,
<v Speaker 3>because that's what people told me.
<v Speaker 2>Ever since I was jumped.
<v Speaker 3>Man, Josh, they only talk about big food because we
<v Speaker 3>don't want to talk about that.
<v Speaker 2>We don't want to bring light to that. Just let
<v Speaker 2>them live in the forest and let them do what they.
<v Speaker 3>Do, because if you really tell the truth about them now,
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna give an insight of how people how they
<v Speaker 3>how they should treat them and know how to be
<v Speaker 3>around them. But I heard a lot of stories on
<v Speaker 3>your site, and I was like, well, I gotta say
<v Speaker 3>something because people have different accounts of them. Some of
<v Speaker 3>them are nice, some of them aggressive, and some of
<v Speaker 3>them are this and that. Well, they should be aggressive
<v Speaker 3>because they've seen their land take it from them. They
<v Speaker 3>seen laggers come in, They've seen train rolls get built
<v Speaker 3>by different other immigrants from around the world. They've seen
<v Speaker 3>a lot of things. So they are aggressive. Some of
<v Speaker 3>them are. But I'll get into all that. But the
<v Speaker 3>first experience I had, I was eleven years old, and
<v Speaker 3>I ain't gonna tell the story. I ain't no hunting man,
<v Speaker 3>I ain't no fisherman, I ain't.
<v Speaker 2>None of that. I just want to get to the
<v Speaker 2>real facts, to the real truth.
<v Speaker 3>Because I don't want to build this story up longer
<v Speaker 3>than it should be, because everybody's against me for telling
<v Speaker 3>the story. They're like, man, don't say nothing. Don't say nothing,
<v Speaker 3>Like we don't want to tell who they really are, Like,
<v Speaker 3>don't leave.
<v Speaker 2>It alone with Josh.
<v Speaker 3>Let them figure out who they is. If they want
<v Speaker 3>to make themselves be known to them, they will. But
<v Speaker 3>I just want to tell this story because yeah, there
<v Speaker 3>are ones that are aggressive, there are ones that are curious,
<v Speaker 3>and there are ones that are very territorial. But we
<v Speaker 3>got to remember this is their land. North America is
<v Speaker 3>their land. And there's many of them in different other
<v Speaker 3>we got the giant picket, this, we got.
<v Speaker 2>This and that.
<v Speaker 3>We got different form and sizes of them. They just
<v Speaker 3>so happen to be big. And yet he is big too.
<v Speaker 3>But I never seen it yet it before, But I
<v Speaker 3>have seen a Northern eight before, and that's what I
<v Speaker 3>call him, because he's a king of all eights. He
<v Speaker 3>can walk on two feet, he can climb trees, he
<v Speaker 3>can do a lot of things, and he's intelligence. And
<v Speaker 3>when I say he, I'm just talking about the males.
<v Speaker 3>I ain't even talking about the females and the juveniles
<v Speaker 3>and none of them.
<v Speaker 2>But uh so.
<v Speaker 3>I'm just thinking about it that right now as me
<v Speaker 3>speaking to you on the phone about like I want
<v Speaker 3>to tell this right because I don't want them to
<v Speaker 3>be miss represented the wrong way and then behind it
<v Speaker 3>down and treated like a like an animal put in
<v Speaker 3>a cage just to oh man, where they come from?
<v Speaker 2>This and that now, I don't want that.
<v Speaker 3>I just want to tell the truth about him and
<v Speaker 3>and all that. I just want to put that clear
<v Speaker 3>to all the viewers or anybody that's listened, like this
<v Speaker 3>ain't really a moment for me to get rich or
<v Speaker 3>make money off of. Now, I just want to tell
<v Speaker 3>my spirits and tell the real truth. So at the
<v Speaker 3>age of eleven, my grandpa told me my grandpa was
<v Speaker 3>a wor War two ven. He's always tell me when
<v Speaker 3>we had a house out on the Highway ninety seven.
<v Speaker 2>So I can give facts.
<v Speaker 3>So people can look it up and they can see this.
<v Speaker 3>Ain't no bs, I ain't gonna cut on your channel case.
<v Speaker 3>I know you're a Christian man and all that, so
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna keep it in that roll because I believe
<v Speaker 3>in God too, you know what I'm saying. So I'm
<v Speaker 3>just being led by the spirit just by me telling
<v Speaker 3>the story because I don't want to say nothing against
<v Speaker 3>them or where they get hunted down, you know, because
<v Speaker 3>because I have seen many things and learn the many
<v Speaker 3>things from them from the woods. You know, that's very
<v Speaker 3>important to me that I don't want to for them
<v Speaker 3>not to trust me, and I can't even go out
<v Speaker 3>there and holler let them.
<v Speaker 2>That's how I look.
<v Speaker 3>At them, like they really people, but they don't look
<v Speaker 3>like people, they don't act like people, and they just
<v Speaker 3>wild native and they just northern East but they are
<v Speaker 3>the most intelligent eight there ever was.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got.
<v Speaker 3>Gorillas, you got chimpanzeines and this and all that, but
<v Speaker 3>these are the greatest above all of them. They can
<v Speaker 3>walk on two feet, they can climb to they can
<v Speaker 3>climb trees, they can do things they can't even do
<v Speaker 3>sign language. They can do a lot of things that
<v Speaker 3>people don't even know about because they never even heard
<v Speaker 3>these type of story. They're like, oh, man, this guy
<v Speaker 3>must be crazy. That's why I don't set down on
<v Speaker 3>this twenty some years, like, man, Josh, I'm saying nothing.
<v Speaker 3>All my friends, I don't told this story too. They
<v Speaker 3>think I'm crazy. Like, man, you've seen what you've seen
<v Speaker 3>the Big Wood, and it was all man, you just
<v Speaker 3>going along with the crowd. You just trying to be
<v Speaker 3>and there all that. So that's why I never really
<v Speaker 3>told this story. But when I started looking at your
<v Speaker 3>website and so I'm like, okay, well people were speaking
<v Speaker 3>out but people are speaking it's real. The descriptions that
<v Speaker 3>they are saying, it's real. There's no denying it.
<v Speaker 2>Now. I don't want I don't want none of these
<v Speaker 2>guys to get caught up. And they got one occasion
<v Speaker 2>of and then doing test on and doing all that,
<v Speaker 2>because what good is for us to really speak something
<v Speaker 2>that's really sacred.
<v Speaker 3>And they are warriors. They are really warriors. They've been
<v Speaker 3>around since the native's been around. And I'm just gonna
<v Speaker 3>start off like this, tell me my first experence.
<v Speaker 2>But I know I'm getting into a whole lot of
<v Speaker 2>other stuff. But this right here is very.
<v Speaker 3>Personal to me because I said, I will never say nothing,
<v Speaker 3>you know, just keep it in the family and we'll
<v Speaker 3>just let other people tell us stories.
<v Speaker 2>So I remember my grandpa tell me.
<v Speaker 3>He's like, hey, don't go down to the house late
<v Speaker 3>at night because Bigfoot watching you. I was like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>all right, Grandpa whatever. I'm eleven years old at this time.
<v Speaker 3>Eleven years old, all right, Grandpa whatever. Man, you just
<v Speaker 3>talking to keep us from some from going down to
<v Speaker 3>the house that now, going down to the house is
<v Speaker 3>probably about like seventy five yards away. He said, don't
<v Speaker 3>go down there late at night cause bitfil gonna be
<v Speaker 3>watching y'all. I said, oh, yeah, I say so, hes
<v Speaker 3>gonna be watching this all night long. He said, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>he watching right now. I'm like, okay, whatever. So my
<v Speaker 3>grandpa used to do things like scratch on the windows
<v Speaker 3>and make a little lying noises, like a little.
<v Speaker 2>Out lying around. Don't do all that. So we knew
<v Speaker 2>it was him, well, we knew it was him. But
<v Speaker 2>he said, it's gonna be some nights where I ain't
<v Speaker 2>coming down the house because I know he out here.
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, Grandpa, he out here. He said, nah,
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you he out here grass. So he said,
<v Speaker 3>don't go out there. He said, he ain't gonna bother you.
<v Speaker 3>He said, but one thing he will do, he'll scare
<v Speaker 3>the hell out of you. You know what I'm saying,
<v Speaker 3>because he coming up looking at child, because he'll fascinated
<v Speaker 3>looking at child running around. And I'm like, okay, all right, okay, Grandpa,
<v Speaker 3>this is another one of your little tell tales. Because
<v Speaker 3>my grandpa came in the era with his father, knew
<v Speaker 3>Jesse James, Bility Kid and all that.
<v Speaker 2>So he used to tell us.
<v Speaker 3>Stories about how Billity Kid and Jesse James used to
<v Speaker 3>get run out of caves by a big old, big
<v Speaker 3>old man that that was Harry.
<v Speaker 2>He used to run him out of caves. You know
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, yeah, whatever, Okay, here go another one
<v Speaker 3>of these stories. So one night me and my cousin
<v Speaker 3>were walking down to the house like, man, some kind
<v Speaker 3>of something don't seem right, Like, man, you see that
<v Speaker 3>in the woods right there like this look at me
<v Speaker 3>on the tree, like he just looking at us, like
<v Speaker 3>he ain't scaring us or nothing. He ain't making his present,
<v Speaker 3>like hey, I'll get you in and don't get out here.
<v Speaker 2>He was like he was just more curious. You know
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>And the reason why I can call him because later
<v Speaker 3>on I found out it wasn't here, so I'm mistaking
<v Speaker 3>all these times. It was like my grandpa out in
<v Speaker 3>the woods just trying to scare us. But then when
<v Speaker 3>I seemed to find out, like hold on, the eyes
<v Speaker 3>is damn there up up like nine feet of us.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm young and I don't know no about height
<v Speaker 3>or this and that, but it had to be seven
<v Speaker 3>in the bove. But I've seen the eyes looking like
<v Speaker 3>just looking at us. Every night we go down up
<v Speaker 3>and down to the house latey night, especially when it
<v Speaker 3>was at the nine o'clock to get dark, because he's
<v Speaker 3>always tells, don't y'all boys go down to the house
<v Speaker 3>lady at night.
<v Speaker 2>Because Bigfoot watching you. So I just thought it was
<v Speaker 2>a joke. I'm like, okay. And my grandpa's native.
<v Speaker 3>He's yeah, he's Cherokee, and he used to tell me
<v Speaker 3>they don't go down there because he's watching you.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, whatever, grandfather. So we didn't think
<v Speaker 2>nothing of it.
<v Speaker 3>So we going down there one night to the house,
<v Speaker 3>which is about fifty sixty yards away. We heard something
<v Speaker 3>go whoa like to get our attention, like, so we
<v Speaker 3>looked down there and he looking at it. He's squatting
<v Speaker 3>down and he's looking and he looking at him like curiously.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, hey, cousin, you see this. I'm like, whatever
<v Speaker 3>it is, it is squatting down. It's not on foe legs.
<v Speaker 2>It's not on He's squatting down to look at us,
<v Speaker 2>to get to our sides where he can look at
<v Speaker 2>us straight up. Like I was like, oh, my cousin, Like, man,
<v Speaker 2>whatever you do, don't look that way.
<v Speaker 3>Let's just get down to the house. So as we
<v Speaker 3>moving down to the house, he moving and then he
<v Speaker 3>come in part of the driveway where it's light and
<v Speaker 3>he's nothing but like black and black and brown. And
<v Speaker 3>then he stand up on all feet and he looked
<v Speaker 3>at us, and he do a little side language.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, come here, like with his finger. I'm like what.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, No, this can't be real. I was like,
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm just tripping or I'm just seeing things. But
<v Speaker 2>he's like, come here.
<v Speaker 3>Like he didn't say that, but the way he was motion,
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh shit. So we got we got scared,
<v Speaker 3>and I stood frozen.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh this ain't this. Ain't grandpa playing,
<v Speaker 2>no joking, no, no Harry Sue. And I seen him
<v Speaker 2>straight up. I mean he stood up tall.
<v Speaker 3>And he looked at us, but he was kind of
<v Speaker 3>like in a character mode, like hey, man, I'm just
<v Speaker 3>playing with y'all.
<v Speaker 2>I ain't I ain't bothering y'all.
<v Speaker 3>He's like, how I got to vibe from here what
<v Speaker 3>he was telling me, Like, man, I've been seeing y'all
<v Speaker 3>all the time out here, playing and doing all that.
<v Speaker 3>I ain't gonna bother y'all. He's like, I just won't
<v Speaker 3>get to know y'all. That's how I kind of felt.
<v Speaker 3>So I felt at easy. I was like, okay. So
<v Speaker 3>I walked into the house and told my Amie. She's
<v Speaker 3>like I told y'all not to be coming down here
<v Speaker 3>this late, because Bigfoot gonna be looking at y'all all
<v Speaker 3>night long. Now he gonna mess with y'all. Now, he's
<v Speaker 3>gonna mess with y'all all the time, now until y'all
<v Speaker 3>start messing with him. I was like, what she was like, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>when we was kids, we used to go out there
<v Speaker 3>and mess with him all the time. I said, what,
<v Speaker 3>so why grandpa tells us not to mess with him?
<v Speaker 3>Because she said, because some of them don't agree with
<v Speaker 3>that because they seen their ancestors and different ones get
<v Speaker 3>taken out. So they was like, so they don't really
<v Speaker 3>deal with humans that much. And I didn't know all
<v Speaker 3>this other stuff that I knew about. So that happened
<v Speaker 3>at the age left. He didn't come around till three
<v Speaker 3>months later. He made his little whistling noise. Because we
<v Speaker 3>was out in the woods, we thought we was maguyvery.
<v Speaker 3>That was the time the magarva showed us out. Well,
<v Speaker 3>we had set booby traps, doing all this, and doing
<v Speaker 3>all this like thought we was a little maguy vers
<v Speaker 3>and all this other stuff. So next thing we know,
<v Speaker 3>we seen a little We seen three coyotes and I
<v Speaker 3>told my cousin, I said, cuz if it's three of them,
<v Speaker 3>it's more of them. I said, they hunting us, And
<v Speaker 3>it was probably a little late, close to night, and
<v Speaker 3>coyotes usually gonna run up on people. But we young
<v Speaker 3>and all that, and we deep in the woods, we're
<v Speaker 3>not even thinking that we getting hunted by some coyotes.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm thinking, like, oh shit, we in trouble. We
<v Speaker 3>ain't got no gun but a.
<v Speaker 2>Knife on us. What we gonna do.
<v Speaker 3>So my cousin he was like, man, we gotta start
<v Speaker 3>yelling for grandpa. So we hurry up, started running and
<v Speaker 3>we climbed the tree. And then we seen three, we
<v Speaker 3>seen four, so obviously they was hunting us Like this,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what. I ain't never heard nobody getting
<v Speaker 3>stuck by coyotes. Then we heard some whoops come through
<v Speaker 3>and next thing you know, they took off running. And
<v Speaker 3>then we see one coyote just get completely smashed into
<v Speaker 3>the tree, like grabbed and smashed into the tree. I'm
<v Speaker 3>talking about just grabbing him by the back and just
<v Speaker 3>slamming them into the tree. And then a big vook
<v Speaker 3>about and said like just like that, I can make
<v Speaker 3>this sound. I never would forget this. I never would
<v Speaker 3>forget that we were scared as hell because we have
<v Speaker 3>never seen something like this, Like we seen him from
<v Speaker 3>a distance and we didn't know that.
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're.
<v Speaker 3>Still yell and at this age, I'm twelve, now I'm thirteen.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm thirteen.
<v Speaker 3>Slamming one against the tree, all of them took off running.
<v Speaker 3>Then he came up like he was kind of mad
<v Speaker 3>that we was in the woods, like wanting us like
<v Speaker 3>y'all shouldn't be in here late at night like this,
<v Speaker 3>and he kind of gave us seeming like y'all get
<v Speaker 3>your ass down and get on out of here, like
<v Speaker 3>that's basically what he was telling us, Like he was
<v Speaker 3>kind of mad that he had to come out to
<v Speaker 3>even help us out, you know, like that type of thing,
<v Speaker 3>because he'd been watching us all these years, so he
<v Speaker 3>was kind of like protecting us.
<v Speaker 2>So I told my.
<v Speaker 3>Grandpa he said, yes see, I told you all to
<v Speaker 3>stay from down there, Like I told you they down there.
<v Speaker 2>He said.
<v Speaker 3>It's a whole group of them, he said, And they
<v Speaker 3>have family, he said. But one thing they will do,
<v Speaker 3>they will protect the land. That's just how they is.
<v Speaker 3>They protected and they only did with certain type of people.
<v Speaker 3>I said, Okay, grandfather.
<v Speaker 2>This is this. It blew my mind, brother cook.
<v Speaker 3>If I can just really tell people how this really happened,
<v Speaker 3>they be like, oh man, this guy just making this up.
<v Speaker 2>Now, Man, I don't need to make this up because
<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting no money from this. I'm not doing this.
<v Speaker 2>This is the real truth. This is what the story.
<v Speaker 2>People don't talk about.
<v Speaker 3>You know. And that's why a lot of people was
<v Speaker 3>kind of against me coming out talking about none of
<v Speaker 3>this because they was like, man, you're.
<v Speaker 2>Gonna let them know everything about it.
<v Speaker 3>I said, Now, I ain't gonna let them know everything,
<v Speaker 3>but I'm just gonna tell the truth because I feel
<v Speaker 3>like this was a channel to say something about it.
<v Speaker 3>That way, our human kind don't start bothering them because
<v Speaker 3>they scarce, they're not as deep as they used to be. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>they got clans to run up the northwest and down
<v Speaker 3>south Midwest and east coast, but they staying in hiding
<v Speaker 3>because they don't know what to think, because they know
<v Speaker 3>how people will come out and hunt for them and
<v Speaker 3>try to look and get pictures and get sounds and
<v Speaker 3>all that. I think that's a joke. But I ain't
<v Speaker 3>gonna get on nobody that do all that because if
<v Speaker 3>you know what I know, they already know you in
<v Speaker 3>the woods before you come to the woods, you know,
<v Speaker 3>so they know you there, so they're not gonna really
<v Speaker 3>just show himself. But so I said, okay, so it's
<v Speaker 3>gotta be more than this. I tell them my cousin,
<v Speaker 3>I'm twelve thirteen. He said, Man, let's just go down
<v Speaker 3>and go to these caves, and let's just really find out, man,
<v Speaker 3>what's really going on, because we already see it now
<v Speaker 3>I can describe them and everything. When he came up
<v Speaker 3>with them coyotes, he grabbed one by the back, slam
<v Speaker 3>against the tree, and all the rest of them took out.
<v Speaker 3>He looked at us like, y'all get out of here.
<v Speaker 3>Like he made a little whoop noise like them whooping noises,
<v Speaker 3>warnings like hey, I'm here, don't come closer. And then
<v Speaker 3>when you start hear them communicating with each other. When
<v Speaker 3>they start, you hear one over here, hear one over there. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>because they because they hunt as a team. And then
<v Speaker 3>when they see humans in the woods, they start hitting trees.
<v Speaker 3>They start making them whoop now, whoop north, and then
<v Speaker 3>they'll whistle. They can mimic anything in the woods because
<v Speaker 3>these are natives. These is like native apes.
<v Speaker 2>That's what I call them.
<v Speaker 3>I don't call them no creatures. I call them native apes.
<v Speaker 3>They know the game in the woods. They know how
<v Speaker 3>to hunt. They even help the Indians how to hunt,
<v Speaker 3>showed them how to hunt back in the days. You know,
<v Speaker 3>from what my ancestors are telling me. You know what
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying and what people Native Americans. Yeah, they did
<v Speaker 3>all that, So people don't understand that story about them,
<v Speaker 3>like these are the real hunter of the woods. They
<v Speaker 3>know when people coming in with cameras and setting up
<v Speaker 3>sound advices trying to get them the I think that's
<v Speaker 3>really disrespectful to him because they so intelligent. But that's
<v Speaker 3>the story for another day. But I was gonna tell
<v Speaker 3>you about my counters brother. And so I'm thirteen years
<v Speaker 3>old now, So me and my cousin like, man, let's
<v Speaker 3>go down there and check out these caves.
<v Speaker 2>I said, let's go down there and check them out.
<v Speaker 2>I said, we feeling good now cause we feel like
<v Speaker 2>we we protect it now, like we ain't gotta worry
<v Speaker 2>about nothing running up on us, cause we you know,
<v Speaker 2>we don't counter.
<v Speaker 3>And now let me tell you through all this, Yes,
<v Speaker 3>without scared when they did all that. Yes, I was,
<v Speaker 3>but I never felt no fear. Like he was like, hey, man,
<v Speaker 3>get the guy out of here. Excuse my friends get
<v Speaker 3>out here, like you shouldn't even be in here. He
<v Speaker 3>was more mad about that we got we got surrounded
<v Speaker 3>by these little coyotes, and he felt a certain type
<v Speaker 3>of way about it because obviously he been watching us
<v Speaker 3>since we've been young, like so he felt like he
<v Speaker 3>had to protect us. That's that's the way I felt
<v Speaker 3>about it. So I always felt had this self an entitlement,
<v Speaker 3>like oh, we can go in the woods with no
<v Speaker 3>problems because we got big for the guy out back.
<v Speaker 2>And my grandpa was like, he's like guys, he like,
<v Speaker 2>lead him alone. Now.
<v Speaker 3>He said, they ain't gonna bother. He said they just
<v Speaker 3>hear to protect stuff because they protecting the land. Now,
<v Speaker 3>this between Angus Valley, Prattville, Sir Popa and all this
<v Speaker 3>before they started building and doing all this.
<v Speaker 2>So I noticed people started coming out there.
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was the Discovery Channel, but they was
<v Speaker 3>coming out there and asking questions like, hey, are you
<v Speaker 3>seeing different there? They're asking people on their land, like
<v Speaker 3>because cows was coming up missing somebody chicken coop got raided,
<v Speaker 3>and the old guys like, man, when I went in there,
<v Speaker 3>it looked like a big berry. But he was saying
<v Speaker 3>on two feet and he had a couple of chickens
<v Speaker 3>in his head like this and that.
<v Speaker 2>So I understood what was going on.
<v Speaker 3>But my grandpa, he said, whatever you do, he said,
<v Speaker 3>don't tell them people nothing about what you've seen, about
<v Speaker 3>what you know. He's like, don't, he said, cause they're
<v Speaker 3>gonna be out here forever and trying to hunt them down.
<v Speaker 3>I So I just ain't nothing. He was like, man,
<v Speaker 3>they's sacred to the last. They native people, he said.
<v Speaker 3>But they're native apes. That's what my grandpa explaining to me,
<v Speaker 3>he said, And they're real. He's like, you seen them,
<v Speaker 3>he said, don't say nothing to them. Don't say nothing
<v Speaker 3>to them. So I thought it was Discovery Channel out there.
<v Speaker 3>Now all these people are writing NDA's where they couldn't
<v Speaker 3>even say nothing about it. That's why I can come
<v Speaker 3>out now because my grandpa out here. Certain people that
<v Speaker 3>stayed out there ain't there, and they signed any day
<v Speaker 3>NDA's where they couldn't speak about it because they said,
<v Speaker 3>y'all need to be quiet about this. We're gonna handle
<v Speaker 3>it this and that. Now, I'm just young kids. I
<v Speaker 3>don't really know what's going on.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know.
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a Discovery channel out there, but
<v Speaker 3>come to find out it was government officials because I
<v Speaker 3>got a pocket network for the FBI. He's like, yeah, Josh,
<v Speaker 3>it's real. He's he's telling me it's real. He's like,
<v Speaker 3>but you can't say nothing about it.
<v Speaker 2>Bro. He was like, we're trying to keep this on
<v Speaker 2>a wrap. Why do they keep it on a rap?
<v Speaker 2>He was like, because we don't want to scare the people.
<v Speaker 2>Why you don't want to scare the people? I mean
<v Speaker 2>the truth?
<v Speaker 3>Like, He's like, it's not that simple, but I'll get
<v Speaker 3>into that a different thing because I got facts to
<v Speaker 3>back up everything I'm talking about. I'm just jumping ahead page.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm thirteen fourteen. We go down look at it
<v Speaker 3>for some caves and all that, and we going.
<v Speaker 2>To this cave.
<v Speaker 3>Now, I say, it's about like seven feet up, about
<v Speaker 3>four feet wide. It wasn't really that big, but as
<v Speaker 3>you got into it, it got deeper. And I'm talking about deeper.
<v Speaker 3>So next thing, me and my cousin now there, I'm
<v Speaker 3>just jumping to the stories, because I hear a lot
<v Speaker 3>of people that when they tell a story, they give
<v Speaker 3>all the details. Now I just want to jump to
<v Speaker 3>the real facts and get to it because I want
<v Speaker 3>people to know that these are not creatures. These are
<v Speaker 3>really real northern apes and they all around the world,
<v Speaker 3>and now I want to show them some justice by man,
<v Speaker 3>don't hunt them down, don't really try to discover them,
<v Speaker 3>because you may be out in the woods by yourself
<v Speaker 3>and you run up on a rogue one, the one
<v Speaker 3>that's been kicked out, kicked out the klan, especially when
<v Speaker 3>a young one come in and kick them out of
<v Speaker 3>the clan.
<v Speaker 2>He may be on some killer stuff. He may be.
<v Speaker 2>Now I see why hikers and all of them coming
<v Speaker 2>up missing, know wherever it is found, because you got one,
<v Speaker 2>you have some of them that they'll come get you
<v Speaker 2>like that.
<v Speaker 3>But that's why I don't want them to be hind down. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>because people don't understand how they are. They really are.
<v Speaker 3>They are really a native like native apes. They they
<v Speaker 3>really they really are. So I'm gonna get to that.
<v Speaker 3>So were going down there and I'm starting to know
<v Speaker 3>this different structures. The structures is showing the bigger the
<v Speaker 3>structures are like when you got bigger limbs in the
<v Speaker 3>area and bigger TP looking structures. Why you think they
<v Speaker 3>look like tps Because Native Americans used to do their
<v Speaker 3>tps like that. Put all them, put all the sticks together,
<v Speaker 3>and do all that. They learn from all that, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. Native Americans learn for them. So
<v Speaker 3>their structures look like like teepees without anything around them.
<v Speaker 3>The bigger they are, to let you know, the bigger
<v Speaker 3>that guy is that's in the camp, The bigger the
<v Speaker 3>warrior is that's in the camp. People may not believe that.
<v Speaker 3>They can say, oh, well, man, what do you really
<v Speaker 3>know about bigfoot? I'm just telling the truthful things that
<v Speaker 3>I have seen and witness This can't be refuted now,
<v Speaker 3>all these bigfoot researchers. This is what I got a
<v Speaker 3>problem with, brother, man. How you gonna go out in
<v Speaker 3>the woods with cameras and all that and they already
<v Speaker 3>watching you. They can smell you, they know you coming,
<v Speaker 3>they can hear you. But you come out there to
<v Speaker 3>get a picture of them and get a yell from them,
<v Speaker 3>get a scream, and get a man. That's really being
<v Speaker 3>disrespectful to a Native person, because you get Native American
<v Speaker 3>that can hide in the woods that you never know
<v Speaker 3>they was there, you know. So, and this is just
<v Speaker 3>Native Americans. I ain't talking about the Native Apes. I'm
<v Speaker 3>talking about Native Americans, the Black the Black Forest Indians.
<v Speaker 3>You would never know you in the woods with them today,
<v Speaker 3>show you theirselves to you. They learn how to hunt
<v Speaker 3>with stealth and all that. Where do you think they
<v Speaker 3>learned all that from?
<v Speaker 2>They learn from people of the woods.
<v Speaker 3>That's why my people call them the Native American Apes.
<v Speaker 3>They don't call them no creatures, no evil entities.
<v Speaker 2>Now they're not.
<v Speaker 3>They don't disappear and do all that and go into
<v Speaker 3>UFOs and do all that. The real truth is they
<v Speaker 3>are the Native American Apes, and and they was hunted down.
<v Speaker 3>But I get into that because I got facts up
<v Speaker 3>to back all this up. People think I'm crazy. They're like, man,
<v Speaker 3>you going crazy, bro, You're telling the real Yeah, because
<v Speaker 3>I gotta tell the truth about them, because my Native
<v Speaker 3>American people trust me with it.
<v Speaker 2>Man, Joys.
<v Speaker 3>If you're gonna tell the truth, tell the whole truth,
<v Speaker 3>and we allow you to do so, bro, But don't
<v Speaker 3>don't tell no lie on them. Don't don't don't make
<v Speaker 3>up stuff that's not real because you're gonna have to
<v Speaker 3>answer us, and we're not about that. We want him
<v Speaker 3>to be known as a gentle giant he can be,
<v Speaker 3>but we want also to be known that he can
<v Speaker 3>be he can be a threat. He can be a
<v Speaker 3>guy that come after you. Like all these people tell
<v Speaker 3>say talking about all they hearing limbs, breaking all that's
<v Speaker 3>what a gorilla does. When a gorilla felt threatened, he
<v Speaker 3>started breaking leaves, breaking tree limbs and running around acting crazy.
<v Speaker 3>That's the same thing on gorilla does, but he's doing
<v Speaker 3>it at a bigger scale. He's breaking big limbs, He's
<v Speaker 3>showing his strength. Hey man, don't come close here, don't
<v Speaker 3>come close now. He's like, now I'm breaking all these
<v Speaker 3>limbs and making his noise and doing all these screens
<v Speaker 3>to keep you away. Now if you get closer, now
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna find out what I'm really about. And that's
<v Speaker 3>why they do things like that, because they really don't
<v Speaker 3>want the heart of humans, because they know if they
<v Speaker 3>if they really hurt some camera guys, a's people out
<v Speaker 3>there in the woods with cameras, and people find out
<v Speaker 3>about the hunts on and then people are gonna be
<v Speaker 3>really coming in and hunting them down because now we
<v Speaker 3>got on footage that bigfoot on came into the camp
<v Speaker 3>and tore the whole camp up. So they more intelligent
<v Speaker 3>that they They know how to speak language, they know
<v Speaker 3>how to do sign language. They do certain little whistles
<v Speaker 3>and do all the other stuff to let everybody else
<v Speaker 3>know in their territory. They're just like when people get
<v Speaker 3>no trust passing up on their fence, no trust passing
<v Speaker 3>this and that. When they do these tree structures and
<v Speaker 3>start knocking and doing all this making the whooping, they're
<v Speaker 3>letting you know, hey, are you coming deep enough? And
<v Speaker 3>that's the only really cameras people really have of them.
<v Speaker 3>But you can have a couple of people that really
<v Speaker 3>seen them and really did that, and the ones that's
<v Speaker 3>being seen really shouldn't be being seen.
<v Speaker 2>They just going like, hey, we're just curious about the humans.
<v Speaker 2>This is as much as they.
<v Speaker 3>Are about us, you know, like we want to be
<v Speaker 3>seen too. But some of the people, the elder ones
<v Speaker 3>in their clans, like, now, don't show yourself to the
<v Speaker 3>white people, because we've seen what happened to the Native
<v Speaker 3>Americans when white boys came over. It's stealing and killing.
<v Speaker 2>This is their land. No this is native land and
<v Speaker 2>Mexican land. We call the Mexican Mexicans. Now, they was native.
<v Speaker 3>They was native too, that's the truth on that. But
<v Speaker 3>we just gave them the Mexican name. But I ain't
<v Speaker 3>gonna get into that history. Lesson on that, brother, because
<v Speaker 3>I can go deep into it. That's how I know
<v Speaker 3>this shit is being hidden. And they don't want to
<v Speaker 3>really want to know, because they haven't been able to
<v Speaker 3>catch one. Yeah, they got ones, they caught ones and
<v Speaker 3>shot them, killed and everything, but they don't want the public,
<v Speaker 3>you know. You know what I'm saying, because they don't
<v Speaker 3>want to. Oh, y'all forgot about the Northern Age. Y'all
<v Speaker 3>thought y'all discovered all the apes. Nah, you didn't discovered
<v Speaker 3>these guys. And these guys can move on two feet,
<v Speaker 3>and they can run on all fours too, like a
<v Speaker 3>gorilla do. And when they run on all fours, they
<v Speaker 3>really fat. That's why they ripped. That's why they big
<v Speaker 3>like they big because they can run on all fours.
<v Speaker 3>They can run on two feet, they can climb trees,
<v Speaker 3>they can do a lot of things. They nimble, and
<v Speaker 3>they don't go into porters and disappear, you know, what
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, that's just people making the mysterious stories up
<v Speaker 3>about them. Now people can refuse it all. Man, you
<v Speaker 3>don't know what you've got about nah. I just know
<v Speaker 3>these are real apes. These are northern native apes, and
<v Speaker 3>they all around the world. You get something in Africa, Australia, Asia, everywhere.
<v Speaker 3>The yett He ain't fake. Yeah, but the yettie is
<v Speaker 3>big though. You know, for what I heard, he's big.
<v Speaker 3>I never seen one, but I just seen what I've
<v Speaker 3>seen over here. Okay, I'm traveling all across the pace,
<v Speaker 3>bro because I have never spoke to nobody about this,
<v Speaker 3>and uh, people may think I'm crazy and say, oh man,
<v Speaker 3>you got you got the whole sits down. You know
<v Speaker 3>everything about him? No, I don't, but I have spent
<v Speaker 3>time around him. I seen him in the flesh. I
<v Speaker 3>can talk with how they looks from head to toe.
<v Speaker 3>You know there, that's no problem. But what good is
<v Speaker 3>that going to do? Talking about them right there?
<v Speaker 2>Uh?
<v Speaker 3>Is that gonna really bring him to life? While we're
<v Speaker 3>gonna finally recognize that we have a northern ape in
<v Speaker 3>North America that's really real. That's traveling. You think all
<v Speaker 3>these people's making up these experiences. You think all these
<v Speaker 3>people are just liars. Now, that's what the government want
<v Speaker 3>to think. Oh man, these people just they thought they
<v Speaker 3>seen something. Nah, people is not making this up, because
<v Speaker 3>how I know because I've seen them. So when I
<v Speaker 3>started listening to those stories and people over there talking
<v Speaker 3>about them, man, it's for real.
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>What we can do to prove that he's real, but
<v Speaker 3>I really I'm at the point now where I don't
<v Speaker 3>want them to discover everybody and seeing one heard one.
<v Speaker 2>They know that he's real. He and she and juveniles
<v Speaker 2>and dollars, We know that it's real. You know what
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. I just don't want nothing to happen to him.
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying because my Native people and
<v Speaker 3>told me just don't don't put a light on them
<v Speaker 3>where they can be exposed.
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not. I'm not gonna put no light on them,
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. Certain people gave me the
<v Speaker 2>blessing to talk about it.
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna talk about it and tell the truth about
<v Speaker 3>them because I don't think people really know, brother, that
<v Speaker 3>these are real.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna call him creatures. These are apes and
<v Speaker 2>they are the top line of the apes. They look
<v Speaker 2>more some of them look human, some of them look
<v Speaker 2>like this, this, and that they are closer to human.
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be we didn't involve from apes, because if
<v Speaker 2>we did, wid ape still here. Now, God made a
<v Speaker 2>certain thing for a reason. He made great apes, He
<v Speaker 2>made humans, he made dinosaurs, he made elephants, he made everything.
<v Speaker 2>How they get on the ship of Noah when they
<v Speaker 2>talk about Nichelin and all their back in the Old.
<v Speaker 3>Testament, Yeah, that's what That's what they were talking about. Uh,
<v Speaker 3>David fighting Golias. You know what I'm saying, He was
<v Speaker 3>fighting a real giant. Now we don't know how that
<v Speaker 3>giant look. We ain't got no features of them, We don't.
<v Speaker 2>We don't know that.
<v Speaker 3>But obviously we know now because he was on a
<v Speaker 3>ship with Noah and now interspread of different continents.
<v Speaker 2>That's one thing I do know. God is not a liar.
<v Speaker 2>You know, He's not no liar.
<v Speaker 3>So I believe God on that, And that's why I
<v Speaker 3>can back up what I'm saying by the spirit of
<v Speaker 3>the Lord. You know what I'm saying, And the Lord say,
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give you ability to talk about it and
<v Speaker 3>break it down where people ain't never heard about it
<v Speaker 3>like this, Then this is the truth. Brother, Like he's real,
<v Speaker 3>so it's no doubt. Yeah, how come we can't get
<v Speaker 3>him on camera?
<v Speaker 2>He's so elusive. He's this, he's that, he's that, he's
<v Speaker 2>all that.
<v Speaker 3>Man, Did you ever think that he don't want to
<v Speaker 3>be seen because he been seen before when they pulled
<v Speaker 3>up on shore on them. I ain't talking about Christopher Columbus.
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about the little first settlers came over here
<v Speaker 3>and they found out this land was nade over her
<v Speaker 3>hold on. They got some monsons in the beasts, They
<v Speaker 3>got some monsons in the woods. We gotta come back
<v Speaker 3>over here with the army to take them out because
<v Speaker 3>they got more than people over here. They got an
<v Speaker 3>ape over here that cause them some problems. Yeah, they
<v Speaker 3>was hunted down and killed. See, people ain't gonna tell
<v Speaker 3>that story in the history books. I ain't never been
<v Speaker 3>in history class. They were like, oh, North America had
<v Speaker 3>North American apes over it. Now, we ain't never heard that.
<v Speaker 3>They hunting them down and try to kill them. Now
<v Speaker 3>they still here because some of them survived it. But
<v Speaker 3>they ain't gonna tell that in the history books and
<v Speaker 3>and you have different presidents on record talking about them,
<v Speaker 3>but nobody's gonna get recognition of that because I guess
<v Speaker 3>the president is just making shit up to you know
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, we all just seen something, Harry, and
<v Speaker 3>we don't know what we're talking about. Okay, brother, I'm
<v Speaker 3>gonna get back on the subject because I take this
<v Speaker 3>real passionate because I know people that has.
<v Speaker 2>Really really really really really know you know. So I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna get back on subject. Brother.
<v Speaker 3>I'm be jumping around out because I ain't never told
<v Speaker 3>this story, so I don't know the proper way to
<v Speaker 3>come with the facts or or tell the story or
<v Speaker 3>but they're not stories.
<v Speaker 2>So we in the case, we in the cave.
<v Speaker 3>Now we're seeing Native American like, you know, little facts
<v Speaker 3>in this like and then we started going down deeper
<v Speaker 3>in the cave would open up where we see Native
<v Speaker 3>Americans with a big hairy man and they showing them show.
<v Speaker 2>Shaking hands. I'm like what I'm like, so me and
<v Speaker 2>my cousin looking at this. Then we hear this.
<v Speaker 3>Like that like when Native Americans charge you, like you've
<v Speaker 3>seen the movies and they be doing all that where
<v Speaker 3>you think they learned it from.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>Native Americans do some hoop and now hooping noises too
<v Speaker 3>when they coming after you.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>That's where they got all that from. We started hearing that.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, oh, man, man, what is that? It
<v Speaker 3>ain't no good? And that next thing we know And
<v Speaker 3>I can't make this up, brother, I can't even And
<v Speaker 3>people like, man, you're a good story teller. Now, man,
<v Speaker 3>this ain't no story man. This is what I have
<v Speaker 3>seen with my own eyes. These apes are for real.
<v Speaker 3>They they got that Native American type of move to them.
<v Speaker 3>They know, they know the forest. They we cannot deny that.
<v Speaker 3>You and talk to people that really have seen them
<v Speaker 3>in life. They will put fear amongst you, especially when
<v Speaker 3>they want you to fear, especially when they feel your
<v Speaker 3>motive ain't right, or if you just in the woods
<v Speaker 3>just fishing and hunting. People gotta think I hear a
<v Speaker 3>lot of people you talk about they be out here
<v Speaker 3>and hunting and fishing. Man, you messing with their resources.
<v Speaker 3>This is their land, this is their native land. They
<v Speaker 3>belong here, you know what I'm saying. So they feel
<v Speaker 3>like anybody on there on their land. They're gonna scare
<v Speaker 3>you away. Yeah, they gonna do tree knots, they gonna
<v Speaker 3>make noises and they and they may run up in
<v Speaker 3>the camp just to scare you out. But they're not
<v Speaker 3>gonna really harm you. Now, you got some of them
<v Speaker 3>that will harm you. You got some of them that
<v Speaker 3>that back in the day they went road for real,
<v Speaker 3>like they'll eat humans that, they'll do all that because
<v Speaker 3>they don't give a damn because they don't lost their families.
<v Speaker 2>They dont did all that.
<v Speaker 3>They don't seen white people come through here kill their
<v Speaker 3>whole kind and all that. Yeah, So you get some
<v Speaker 3>of them that still live with their native history in
<v Speaker 3>their mind, like we don't trust white people. So when
<v Speaker 3>they see white people in the woods, they don't trust them.
<v Speaker 3>That's how they are they natives. You got some natives
<v Speaker 3>still to this day that don't like dealing with white people.
<v Speaker 3>It's not a race thing. They just remember their assets
<v Speaker 3>is getting bullied, the trailer tears. How you push all
<v Speaker 3>the Indians out their land and do all that, they
<v Speaker 3>remember all that because they was there too. You gotta
<v Speaker 3>remember this is their territory too. So I just want
<v Speaker 3>to back up facts for facts. I know I'm fair
<v Speaker 3>fetchingate and this and that. I ain't giving no statements.
<v Speaker 2>From other people all that.
<v Speaker 3>But what I can talk about is what I know about.
<v Speaker 3>And God hasn't tired of me to talk about it,
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. So I'm just gonna bring
<v Speaker 3>it to white brother. You know what I'm saying. I
<v Speaker 3>ain't trying to get on your channel and be no
<v Speaker 3>celebrity because I don't care about nothing this. What I
<v Speaker 3>want is for them to respect them as these are
<v Speaker 3>native apes of the last and they and they.
<v Speaker 2>Deserve to be respected. When people coming in the woods
<v Speaker 2>with cameras and all that.
<v Speaker 3>Man, they already know you there making TV shows about them,
<v Speaker 3>like you're making this a joke. You make a movie
<v Speaker 3>about Harry and Henderson and all, man, this is a joke.
<v Speaker 3>One day I was in the woods, and uh, I
<v Speaker 3>noticed one was moving like a gorilla like moving like
<v Speaker 3>a gorilla like like it didn't stand up and walk,
<v Speaker 3>would do nothing, but they stayed on all fours.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 3>And then they started moving, moving through the woods like
<v Speaker 3>doing certain things like on all fours and just showing
<v Speaker 3>off in front of me.
<v Speaker 2>Their speed. Now, when I talk about speed, but I
<v Speaker 2>ain't talking about no cheetah speed. Now.
<v Speaker 3>This is this is in the woods where you gotta
<v Speaker 3>watch out for trees and this and that. They know
<v Speaker 3>how to nimble in between that and move and and
<v Speaker 3>they got a move where they grab the tree. They
<v Speaker 3>swing themselves around to give them more speed to make
<v Speaker 3>a jump, start and move and then and then they'll
<v Speaker 3>go on all forces. The reason why they go on
<v Speaker 3>all forests because that's a stuff mold, that's their hunting mold.
<v Speaker 3>Because they get real low because they know they know
<v Speaker 3>if they stand tall, they gonna bump in the branches.
<v Speaker 2>They gonna bump into this, they gonna bump into that.
<v Speaker 3>So what they do They get on all fours like
<v Speaker 3>a gorilla do, and move through the forest. I'm talking
<v Speaker 3>about magnificently, like they know the woods better than anybody
<v Speaker 3>know the woods.
<v Speaker 2>You gotta think this is their territory.
<v Speaker 3>They know every tree around, They know how to move,
<v Speaker 3>how to jump and all that. And that's why when
<v Speaker 3>people say, oh man, we thought we'd seen one and
<v Speaker 3>then and then they don't see no more footprints because
<v Speaker 3>they start to go into that mold. They start swinging
<v Speaker 3>from tree to tree and they may not even climb
<v Speaker 3>the tree all the way because they're heavy. When people
<v Speaker 3>are talking about they seen something trees and all that,
<v Speaker 3>but them trees gotta be big. They can't be no
<v Speaker 3>small trees. So what they do they grab a tree,
<v Speaker 3>they swing from another one, and they be low key.
<v Speaker 3>They may just be about seven or five feet off
<v Speaker 3>the ground from the tree, but they go on from
<v Speaker 3>tree to tree where you don't see their footsteps because
<v Speaker 3>they know people out there looking for footsteps. Now you
<v Speaker 3>got some of them that slip up and leave some footprints.
<v Speaker 3>They may come around your camp. When they do leave footprints,
<v Speaker 3>they want you to know that they're there. And that's
<v Speaker 3>the reason why they allow people to get footprints from them.
<v Speaker 3>And hearing these noises from them and all that. Other
<v Speaker 3>than that, you would never know they was there. You
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't even hear them. And that's a scary thing about it.
<v Speaker 3>So if they really wanted to attack you and ambush
<v Speaker 3>your little party, your little camping trip, they could and
<v Speaker 3>they can do it with no silence because they move
<v Speaker 3>with no silence. And that's why the Native Americans learn
<v Speaker 3>from them how to hunt the woods, be quiet, how
<v Speaker 3>to do this, how to do this, because they learn.
<v Speaker 2>From the best.
<v Speaker 3>And another thing I want to talk about, and I'm
<v Speaker 3>gonna get into my counter brother that people talking about
<v Speaker 3>how they stealth and they can just disappear in front
<v Speaker 3>of that. Well, what they don't realize is this, they
<v Speaker 3>are the woods and the woods is a part of them,
<v Speaker 3>and they don't understand we ain't lived in the woods
<v Speaker 3>all life.
<v Speaker 2>Well, we ain't being natural like that. Different animals can hide.
<v Speaker 3>You can look at a panther up in a tree
<v Speaker 3>and you don't even know you see a panther because
<v Speaker 3>it's so stealth. You can look at a bobcap hide
<v Speaker 3>out and you don't know it's there until it come out.
<v Speaker 3>So they're gonna master all that they are the king
<v Speaker 3>of the woods, and there's no explanation to.
<v Speaker 2>That, you know.
<v Speaker 3>But I'm gonna get into my counter brother that when
<v Speaker 3>I went into the cave, So we go in the cave,
<v Speaker 3>we've seen all these high griffiths of Native Americans messing
<v Speaker 3>with Big harry Man and all that, and they show
<v Speaker 3>the examples of then we hear this raw I'm talking about,
<v Speaker 3>not like a royal, like a lion, but like a
<v Speaker 3>roar like like kind of like ape like but if
<v Speaker 3>I can describe it between a line and this and that,
<v Speaker 3>And then we start hearing all these whoops. Now I'm
<v Speaker 3>hearing a roar from any cave. But then I'm hearing
<v Speaker 3>some roars from out the cave. So me and my
<v Speaker 3>cousin think we cord it. Bro we ain't going nowhere
<v Speaker 3>because they coming in the cave and we already in
<v Speaker 3>the cave. And then we're hearing some in the cave.
<v Speaker 3>So we just standing there with with with flashlights. Now
<v Speaker 3>I can never forget this. I can never. We heard
<v Speaker 3>some like like like like some movement like moving loud,
<v Speaker 3>like moving real quick and fast. Next thing we know,
<v Speaker 3>one of the big footus ran up on us, and
<v Speaker 3>I can't make this up. He had red underneath his eyebrows,
<v Speaker 3>like like Native Americans paint their face. He had that
<v Speaker 3>underneath his eyebrows, and this screen that us like what
<v Speaker 3>y'all doing in here?
<v Speaker 2>Like y'all shouldn't be here?
<v Speaker 3>Like like he he didn't come to attack us, but
<v Speaker 3>he yelled us to scare the to scare everything out
<v Speaker 3>of us.
<v Speaker 2>So we fell down and was looking at him, and
<v Speaker 2>then he was over.
<v Speaker 3>Us, and then some came in whooping was like, now,
<v Speaker 3>God will leave me alone, a little homie, Like, I
<v Speaker 3>ain't saying they said that, but I'm just I'm just
<v Speaker 3>basing it down. How the language they had between them,
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. And then that's when I
<v Speaker 3>found out they speak a native language. Now I don't
<v Speaker 3>know what language this was, but it sounded more native,
<v Speaker 3>like a Native America. They said nahata And then the
<v Speaker 3>one that was yelling us stopped. So I don't know
<v Speaker 3>if he told him to chill out or hey, man,
<v Speaker 3>leave that alone. Don't don't bother them. We know them.
<v Speaker 3>They cool like and and me and my cousin stood that.
<v Speaker 3>Now I don't pissed on myself did everything because when
<v Speaker 3>he came out, he came out of all fours because
<v Speaker 3>he couldn't stood. He couldn't stand up all the way
<v Speaker 3>in the cave because the cave was about like six
<v Speaker 3>seven foot, so he came down low and he came out.
<v Speaker 2>And when I say, he had like some warrior paint
<v Speaker 2>on his face, Like.
<v Speaker 3>You can't make this up. There's no way you can
<v Speaker 3>make this type of stuff up. This ain't no stuff
<v Speaker 3>from the movies, bro, This is like real talk. This
<v Speaker 3>is real life, Like, oh, oh my god, I never
<v Speaker 3>knew that they was really warriors like this. I didn't
<v Speaker 3>know they painted their face. I didn't know they was
<v Speaker 3>into this. I didn't know they took this seriously.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know all that. So when he read up
<v Speaker 3>on it, bro, he stood there and growled at us. Now,
<v Speaker 3>yeah he had human teeth. He had Uh he had Uh.
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't no K nine like a wolf or nothing
<v Speaker 3>like that. Like like like everybody got that sharp tooth
<v Speaker 3>in their mouth, like them tooth front toe. It was
<v Speaker 3>just a little bigger because he bigger and and and
<v Speaker 3>he kind of kind.
<v Speaker 2>Of chilled out.
<v Speaker 3>And then but he was grubbing around like like why
<v Speaker 3>they hear it? Like damn, yeah, they gonna tell somebody
<v Speaker 3>that they was hearing this and that, Like he was
<v Speaker 3>kind of mad about that. So they started speaking in
<v Speaker 3>a different language like talking to him, but he was
<v Speaker 3>kind of mad, like no, like pointing us, like go,
<v Speaker 3>like y'all need to go, Like like he's pointed us
<v Speaker 3>like he was pointing. He wouldn't saying nothing, but whatever
<v Speaker 3>language he was tired in there, He's like, man, they
<v Speaker 3>need to go like that's the what I felt what
<v Speaker 3>they were saying. He's like, man, tell that them go.
<v Speaker 3>But the other one that knew me, he's like, nah, man,
<v Speaker 3>they they coold like I know that, but he was
<v Speaker 3>still saying, Noah go. Now all the other ones that
<v Speaker 3>came in, Bro, they was dressed up. One of them
<v Speaker 3>had like a red straight and had like a like
<v Speaker 3>feathers in their head.
<v Speaker 2>Like like native stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Like I can't make this up, bro, Like this is
<v Speaker 3>this is what's tripping me out. Like I didn't know
<v Speaker 3>that they was native like that, and I never even
<v Speaker 3>knew about big Foot until I so I started seeing them, brother,
<v Speaker 3>like they are are for real, like these are real.
<v Speaker 2>Native people of the land.
<v Speaker 3>Like now I see why Native people talk about they.
<v Speaker 2>Have pow wows, they do all that. But I never
<v Speaker 2>believed in there of that. You know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 2>I ain't saying I've been to a power wow. None
<v Speaker 2>of that. This is the spirits, I guess.
<v Speaker 3>So the one that been seeing us, he was like
<v Speaker 3>he's signaled to he would have He's like, come on,
<v Speaker 3>like he didn't say nothing to me, he didn't speak
<v Speaker 3>no language or none of that. I don't want people
<v Speaker 3>to think none of that. He said, come on, He's like,
<v Speaker 3>come on, he let us have the cave. Then he
<v Speaker 3>pointed back where we stay. He said, like y'all go
<v Speaker 3>like so, I don't know if they had a summit
<v Speaker 3>after that, like damn, we don't let humans find out
<v Speaker 3>where we stay. Are they gonna tell on us? Are
<v Speaker 3>they gonna do this and that? Are they gonna say anything?
<v Speaker 3>Or that's the vibe. I kind of gap like cause
<v Speaker 3>he kind of looked kind of down like damn, we shouldn't.
<v Speaker 2>Uh, they don't got too close, like they didn't want
<v Speaker 2>nobody to know.
<v Speaker 3>But there's a whole cave system of he and everything
<v Speaker 3>like and it got big art. But the way he
<v Speaker 3>ran up, bro, like I'm talking about quick, and I
<v Speaker 3>can tell you how he looked his uh.
<v Speaker 2>His eyebrows like his eyes were sunking into his head.
<v Speaker 2>He had red above his eyebrows, He had red underneath
<v Speaker 2>his eyes, like like he was painted all like he
<v Speaker 2>put it all like I can't.
<v Speaker 3>And then he had like feathers on him, like in
<v Speaker 3>his hair and stuff like that. I was like, hold on, man,
<v Speaker 3>this is unbelievable. My grandpa ain't gonna believe me. When
<v Speaker 3>I tell this stuff, my grandma said, I been seeing them.
<v Speaker 3>He said, they like natives. He said, they're like native grandson.
<v Speaker 3>He said, it's a lot you don't know about them
<v Speaker 3>that you would never understand. I said, but Grandpa tell
<v Speaker 3>me the story. I was like, because we just got
<v Speaker 3>caught in the cave and we could have got massacred
<v Speaker 3>because he's running up on us like he wanted to
<v Speaker 3>do something. And then I started hearing all these whoops.
<v Speaker 3>See now it's starting to make sense to me. How
<v Speaker 3>why the inn then whoop like they do, because you know,
<v Speaker 3>any of coming in who woo. But they just do
<v Speaker 3>it to a different level. But they do it to
<v Speaker 3>security breach, like, oh somebody in here, let's start making
<v Speaker 3>some noise. Let's start doing some tree knocks. And then
<v Speaker 3>some of them do hit their chest and some of
<v Speaker 3>them do make a noise with their mouth and all that.
<v Speaker 3>And they do speak gibberish and do all that. But
<v Speaker 3>they do have a language. I don't know what the
<v Speaker 3>language is, bro It sounds more native to me. But
<v Speaker 3>let me tell you this.
<v Speaker 2>They cut like hulk Khukan like, because.
<v Speaker 3>They move on all fours. So you gotta think they
<v Speaker 3>in shape. So it makes sense to me when people
<v Speaker 3>say that when they see them, they cut and they
<v Speaker 3>muscular and all that. Yeah, because they not just run
<v Speaker 3>on feet, They climb trees, they climb rocks, they run
<v Speaker 3>on all fours.
<v Speaker 2>They in shape. They are like the king of the jungle.
<v Speaker 2>Like Eve.
<v Speaker 3>It was years before they found out that the Northern
<v Speaker 3>gorilla was real in Africa. They're like, oh, I ain't
<v Speaker 3>nothing up here. They was hunting for them for years
<v Speaker 3>and they finally found them. But this is one of
<v Speaker 3>the aphs that we ain't got no photograph really up Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>we got smears and this and that and all this
<v Speaker 3>and this and that and all that. But what I
<v Speaker 3>think that people are doing. They doing this for money.
<v Speaker 3>They're taking pictures of them, and we thought we'd seen something,
<v Speaker 3>We've always seen something.
<v Speaker 2>Now they like this.
<v Speaker 3>They can read you. They know if you're in here
<v Speaker 3>looking for them, they know that you're looking for a photograph.
<v Speaker 3>And they do sign language and they talk to each
<v Speaker 3>other from a distance. So they be doing that, and
<v Speaker 3>then when they be whistling and doing all that, that
<v Speaker 3>means something to them that they're just like if you
<v Speaker 3>in the woods and you know somebody after you. You ain't
<v Speaker 3>gonna yell hey homie, hey, such and such over there.
<v Speaker 3>Now you're gonna make a signal, you're gonna say, hey,
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna whistle, or are you gonna do a little
<v Speaker 3>tree knocket? This and that and all that. And then
<v Speaker 3>when I heard the stories about how they be around
<v Speaker 3>people houses, Yeah they do that too. They be around
<v Speaker 3>because that's their land. Now, you don't build a house
<v Speaker 3>on their land. And all their ancestors have been there. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna mess with you. They're gonna come up, may
<v Speaker 3>bang on your house, may jump on your roof. They
<v Speaker 3>do things like that. But the ones that really get
<v Speaker 3>some respect for you, they'll leave little things for you
<v Speaker 3>because they're trying to communicate with you, like hey, I
<v Speaker 3>don't mean no harm to you, but I'm gonna be
<v Speaker 3>up there messing with you. Like we're gonna be around
<v Speaker 3>here doing stuff because this is our land. That's how
<v Speaker 3>they taking it. They don't understand that they do. One
<v Speaker 3>bought this land and they got a house old it.
<v Speaker 3>They don't understand none of that. All they understand is
<v Speaker 3>this man, this is my land. This is my people land.
<v Speaker 3>So they're gonna do that. So I'm gonna tell you
<v Speaker 3>by another account, brother, I was now. The last one
<v Speaker 3>I turned about the cave was thirteen. So after that,
<v Speaker 3>my grandpa told me, he said, man, stay out them caves man.
<v Speaker 3>That's what Billy the Kid and that's what James Lam
<v Speaker 3>used to come through. And then they was hide now
<v Speaker 3>and they got ran out and all that. That's when
<v Speaker 3>Billy the Kid then with outlaws and doing all that.
<v Speaker 3>I didn't believe none of that, bro, But now I'm
<v Speaker 3>starting to believe. I'm like, I believe in Bigfoot by this.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to school telling everybody I've seen a
<v Speaker 3>big Foot this and that. And my grandfather he said,
<v Speaker 3>shut up, boy, he said, don't tell people that, he said,
<v Speaker 3>because they gonna think you crazy, and they gonna think
<v Speaker 3>that you losing it and this and that and all that.
<v Speaker 3>Don't even he said, just keep that between you and
<v Speaker 3>the Native American people. So that's how I really had
<v Speaker 3>to talk to And I'm hearing stories about this and.
<v Speaker 2>That and all that. So I'm really thinking in my.
<v Speaker 3>Mind, but like why are we suppressing this truth? Like
<v Speaker 3>how come Natives don't really want to come out and
<v Speaker 3>say this, like talk about it because you know why.
<v Speaker 3>There's too many bad spirits with it. You know what
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, because and I'm not racist because my mom
<v Speaker 3>is white, my dad's back in the Native so so
<v Speaker 3>so when I say white people, I ain't.
<v Speaker 2>I ain't labeled out nobody.
<v Speaker 3>But what I am talking about is they came over
<v Speaker 3>here stealing and kill it and hunting. They didn't come
<v Speaker 3>over here with no real peace treaty and like, hey guys,
<v Speaker 3>can we be part of your land now. They came
<v Speaker 3>over here stealing and killing. That's what they don't talk
<v Speaker 3>about in their history books. And that's what people tell
<v Speaker 3>me the story of you know this, that this is
<v Speaker 3>why they've been hunted down. So yeah, was it big
<v Speaker 3>Foot taking kids and doing all that? Yet, that's true,
<v Speaker 3>But it wasn't the one that's part of the class
<v Speaker 3>that had their clan together. It's always the ones that's
<v Speaker 3>been kicked out, the group that they don't care about nothing,
<v Speaker 3>and if they see any human, they coming after them.
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, That's just how they was.
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. It's some apes and certain
<v Speaker 3>confidents you go to. They're gonna kill a human. They
<v Speaker 3>don't care if you're human or not, they're coming after
<v Speaker 3>you because you're in the territory. That's just how they are, Bro.
<v Speaker 3>They territorial, So we can't blame them for that. We
<v Speaker 3>can't say, oh man, they're killing people. But you gotta
<v Speaker 3>think about this is their land, this and they shared
<v Speaker 3>it with natives and natives, and I ain't gonna call
<v Speaker 3>them Mexicans.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna call them.
<v Speaker 3>Natives too because they was natives too. But until we
<v Speaker 3>get the word Mexican, you know what I'm saying. So,
<v Speaker 3>but that's a whole different other story.
<v Speaker 2>Though, Bro. But about my other cow. When out fourteen
<v Speaker 2>years old, me and my cousin Ronald were walking up to.
<v Speaker 3>The same house that I told you about front of
<v Speaker 3>the beginning, and then we call him buddy.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. That's the name I gave him, Buddy.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. Was he friendly? No? But
<v Speaker 2>was he territorial? Yes? But was he harm and human?
<v Speaker 3>No?
<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't, Bro, he never would. He wasn't no freelancer.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't no freelancer Like go and takee people, chickens
<v Speaker 3>and cows and do all that he wasn't no opportunitists
<v Speaker 3>like that, you know what I'm saying. It was certain
<v Speaker 3>ones out of his clans that did that, and they
<v Speaker 3>represented him and he represented them for doing that because
<v Speaker 3>because now you draw attention to us, like and you
<v Speaker 3>got caught, you know what I'm saying. One of his
<v Speaker 3>people got caught carrying the cow off. That's why Discovery
<v Speaker 3>Channel came out there, so called Discovery Channel because they
<v Speaker 3>seen one pick one up snaper his neck put old
<v Speaker 3>should walk in the woods and all these people are
<v Speaker 3>talking about one in the chicken coop, one coming up
<v Speaker 3>here terrorizing the house. It was only two of them
<v Speaker 3>that was doing that. And they didn't care about keeping theirself.
<v Speaker 2>Hid or none of that. They're just like they were hungry,
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna go do this. We're gonna do this.
<v Speaker 3>That's just how they was. Bro excuse my friends, but
<v Speaker 3>that's just how they was. They're just like people in society.
<v Speaker 3>You got some people that don't care that they'll kill
<v Speaker 3>you regardless, like they don't care about human life or
<v Speaker 3>any and know that. So they the same way, like
<v Speaker 3>so we can't look at them and like they monsters.
<v Speaker 3>They not, they just they just the real they the
<v Speaker 3>real hunters of the woods. So I was fourteen, So
<v Speaker 3>we walking up from qb Lee House and all that.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, some stop us in the wood against
<v Speaker 3>so so I'm thinking, it's buddy, you know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't. You know what I'm saying. It was
<v Speaker 2>it was like his.
<v Speaker 3>Younger brother, because his younger brother was probably about like
<v Speaker 3>like six six and a half and all that. Buddy
<v Speaker 3>was like eight feet. The older they get, the taller
<v Speaker 3>they get. Now when they get over in the Northwest
<v Speaker 3>and the cold and all that, and they be in
<v Speaker 3>cold regions, they get real real big and broad because
<v Speaker 3>they gotta do that because it's cold outside. They got
<v Speaker 3>to build some weight for the for the winter and
<v Speaker 3>all that. But the one seems to be down south.
<v Speaker 3>They slender and real swow like look like bodybuilders, and
<v Speaker 3>you can see all the muscles and they're not as hairy.
<v Speaker 3>But but they do go into a little den and
<v Speaker 3>they got places warm where they can do all that
<v Speaker 3>and all that.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. All that, But it wasn't.
<v Speaker 2>It was like his cousin and they was just stopping us,
<v Speaker 2>messing with us. And then they be laughing. Bro, they
<v Speaker 2>were like they be laughing at us, like, yeah, they scared.
<v Speaker 2>They scared. They scared like that, Like they wasn't saying that,
<v Speaker 2>but the way they was acting.
<v Speaker 3>And they followed me and my cousin from qb Lee
<v Speaker 3>House and then and then one of them came out
<v Speaker 3>of the road. It did like a little like put
<v Speaker 3>his hands out. It was like what's up, like y'all scared?
<v Speaker 3>Like me and my cousin looking because he like this
<v Speaker 3>ain't buddy right here. This is a different one, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. He had like a little red
<v Speaker 3>stripe going down and and he's pretty tall, but he
<v Speaker 3>about like seventy feet and then he had like a
<v Speaker 3>like around it around his legs.
<v Speaker 2>Bro.
<v Speaker 3>It looked like nothing muscle. Like they was just out
<v Speaker 3>there messing with us. It wasn't a scary account us
<v Speaker 3>where they was trying to threaten us or nothing. That
<v Speaker 3>they were just messing with us because they start doing
<v Speaker 3>things like this, and then for him to come out
<v Speaker 3>and say what's up to us? Now I knew that
<v Speaker 3>the people and their and their try was like, man,
<v Speaker 3>they cool, bro, they ain't gonna talk about us, man,
<v Speaker 3>they ain't gonna tell.
<v Speaker 2>Nobody this and that and all that.
<v Speaker 3>Like, like, so they started showing themselves to us, like
<v Speaker 3>their characteristic is how they are. They do laugh, bro,
<v Speaker 3>They do have a sense of human They kind of
<v Speaker 3>scare you more than most when they're playing with you,
<v Speaker 3>like like they do a little. But to them, they
<v Speaker 3>ain't scaring you. But to them, that's their that's their nature.
<v Speaker 2>Bro.
<v Speaker 3>They're not human all the way they they You might
<v Speaker 3>as well say they kind of look like Slash human
<v Speaker 3>Slash eight. But their their their facial features changes. It
<v Speaker 3>depends on what what what clan they from. Because you
<v Speaker 3>got Noveljole ones that that got a red stripe all
<v Speaker 3>the way down the back. They called the Novljole clan.
<v Speaker 3>This is what I have learned by doing my real
<v Speaker 3>research is different kind of Then you got the Timberlake
<v Speaker 3>one that's up in the woods. That's that's more grayish
<v Speaker 3>and blackish and all that and all that. Like it's
<v Speaker 3>clans of them, and they migrate, but some of them
<v Speaker 3>don't migrate. Some of them stay where they at because
<v Speaker 3>they know they're being hunted by humans.
<v Speaker 2>We got all these shows out here, bro, All.
<v Speaker 3>It is is just scaring them all it is, and
<v Speaker 3>then you putting some in the corner where they're gonna
<v Speaker 3>eventually do something like they're gonna eventually attack somebody that's
<v Speaker 3>really in the woods with a camera, and then that's
<v Speaker 3>gonna be it all. Damn, he got tagged by wild
<v Speaker 3>beasts in there. Now we gotta send an army in
<v Speaker 3>there to hunt this creature down. And then they really
<v Speaker 3>gonna be exposed, and then they're gonna be treated like animals.
<v Speaker 3>They gonna think that they're just ruthless, but all they
<v Speaker 3>do is just.
<v Speaker 2>Defit in their land. They don't want people hiking up
<v Speaker 2>in the woods. They don't want.
<v Speaker 3>People up here bringing cameras and doing all that. They
<v Speaker 3>don't want to get their young little kid caught on camera,
<v Speaker 3>young little juvenile caught on camera. They don't want that, bro,
<v Speaker 3>They don't. They don't want that. They trying to stay
<v Speaker 3>out the way, like all the native people will tell you,
<v Speaker 3>like they really don't want the attention like that. Natives
<v Speaker 3>have power wows where bigfoots come and join them in
<v Speaker 3>the pow wows. But you ain't gonna never hear them
<v Speaker 3>type of natives talk about it because they feel that
<v Speaker 3>they don't want to talk about that because they don't
<v Speaker 3>want to invite the white men into their culture to
<v Speaker 3>even see things like that. And this is a fact,
<v Speaker 3>is that this ain't nothing made up on my own.
<v Speaker 3>This is what I know for a fact. I know
<v Speaker 3>certain native people. Yeah, bro, Bigfoot, Now he don't come
<v Speaker 3>in and dance and do all that. This ain't no
<v Speaker 3>sideline pony show, nothing like that. But he come up
<v Speaker 3>and then and then there's other people. They've got their
<v Speaker 3>dance too, like they do dances, bro. Like Like it's
<v Speaker 3>certain natives that won't even be telling this story, bro,
<v Speaker 3>because they feel like I'm being disrespectful.
<v Speaker 2>That's why I told you.
<v Speaker 3>I Like people are calling my phone, hanging up threatening me, like, man,
<v Speaker 3>don't get on there and say all that, bro, because
<v Speaker 3>now you're gonna let them know the full culture of them. Man,
<v Speaker 3>I'm not letting no, no, no, I'm just telling the
<v Speaker 3>real experiences that I have had. Like people need to
<v Speaker 3>notice before they go out here and start hunting them,
<v Speaker 3>because I'm trying to save them. If I'm trying to
<v Speaker 3>do more than anything, brother, I ain't. I'm not on
<v Speaker 3>here to get rich on telling no Bigfoot story. I'm
<v Speaker 3>trying to save them because I don't want people out
<v Speaker 3>here hunting them, because, yes, you have ones that do
<v Speaker 3>kill human beings, you do, that's just the reality. Will
<v Speaker 3>chimpanzee kill a human, yes, it's been dumb iFolk. Will
<v Speaker 3>a gorilla do it?
<v Speaker 2>Yes?
<v Speaker 3>So all these apes would kill a human being. Don't
<v Speaker 3>just label them out because people coming up missing. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>people coming up missing because you need to stay out
<v Speaker 3>of their territory. That's just the way they is. Some
<v Speaker 3>of them, not all of them, are like that. Some
<v Speaker 3>of them will stalk you, some of them will they'll
<v Speaker 3>follow you, like all the stories I've been hearing, like,
<v Speaker 3>oh man, he walk right on side of me. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>he does that because he want.
<v Speaker 2>To try to figure out what's your intention.
<v Speaker 3>But you ain't gonna never see him though, but because
<v Speaker 3>he's a master in the woods. Okay, I'm gonna get
<v Speaker 3>off that brom. I'm telling you about my next experience,
<v Speaker 3>my rest in peace and my uncle Payne. So we
<v Speaker 3>out there one night in the country. It's called beau
<v Speaker 3>for Colony. It's right off fifty first in between fifty
<v Speaker 3>first sixty first in Prattville off Highway ninety seven before
<v Speaker 3>you get to some pupple, you know. Say, So we
<v Speaker 3>out there, so we just drink and have a little
<v Speaker 3>good time. We ain't drinking too much. So I tell
<v Speaker 3>my uncle before we leave, man, man, I'm gonna call
<v Speaker 3>old buddy out man, say you'll come out if he's
<v Speaker 3>still around her. Now, it's been years since I've been
<v Speaker 3>out there, and the house has been boarded up. My
<v Speaker 3>grandparents passed away and all that, and they sold the property.
<v Speaker 3>But wasn't nobody staying out there. I said, well, let's
<v Speaker 3>go out here and make a little bonfire and this kicking. Man,
<v Speaker 3>we really shouldn't be out here because we was kind
<v Speaker 3>of like, oh man, this ain't y'all laying no more
<v Speaker 3>than all this. But this was before all the white
<v Speaker 3>people start moving out there and started tearing down the
<v Speaker 3>woods and building big houses and Angus Valley and all that.
<v Speaker 2>So I said, man, I'm call out here, call buddy. Man.
<v Speaker 2>A buddy came showed up, live in action, and because
<v Speaker 2>I ain't seen him in a while, you know what
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So he came out and made his little
<v Speaker 2>noise and all that, and then he's peeking around a tree.
<v Speaker 2>But he didn't know My uncle like that.
<v Speaker 3>So he just peeking around the tree and he showed
<v Speaker 3>half his body and my uncle's like, nephew, you gotta
<v Speaker 3>be bs and me.
<v Speaker 2>It's just a real big flivver. I said, yeah, man,
<v Speaker 2>I told you you'll come out here. Man. I know him. Man,
<v Speaker 2>He's like, hold on. He sold it up quick. He's
<v Speaker 2>like hold on.
<v Speaker 3>I said, don't pull your phone out, I said, because
<v Speaker 3>they don't like phones being around because they know what
<v Speaker 3>you're trying to do. I said, yeah, there he is
<v Speaker 3>right there. And my other brother drove. He was like,
<v Speaker 3>you gotta be Is this for real?
<v Speaker 2>Like is this man? Is this somebody in the woods player?
<v Speaker 2>I said, noah, Bro, I was like this for real,
<v Speaker 2>Like he ain't. He ain't called it little noise. He ain't.
<v Speaker 2>He ain't doing nothing.
<v Speaker 3>He just come up because he heard how I called it.
<v Speaker 3>Because we had a certain type of call where you know,
<v Speaker 3>you know, humans go out there and try to do
<v Speaker 3>these big foot casts. Bro, they know it's coming from
<v Speaker 3>a human like, and that's what it makes it essensiless
<v Speaker 3>for people to go out there and do big foot costs.
<v Speaker 3>I'm just telling all the bigfoot researchers that really want
<v Speaker 3>to research big man, just be yourself this. If they
<v Speaker 3>want to mess with you, they will mess with you.
<v Speaker 3>And they don't trust a lot of people, you know
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. So when you go out there and
<v Speaker 3>do calls bro and do wood knocks out, they don't
<v Speaker 3>respond to that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they hear it. They'll be like, oh, somebody up
<v Speaker 2>here trying to get our attention.
<v Speaker 3>Man, Like should we go up there in the camp
<v Speaker 3>up and just terrorize them or should we go up
<v Speaker 3>there and make a little content for them so they
<v Speaker 3>can say that we real and this and that. They
<v Speaker 3>don't be thinking like that. Like when they come and
<v Speaker 3>check you out, they come and check you out. But
<v Speaker 3>there are some of them that they ready to destroy
<v Speaker 3>the count come in and clean everything up.
<v Speaker 2>But they know if they.
<v Speaker 3>Attack some humans like that, especially when they all in
<v Speaker 3>the group together, the heat is on for them to
<v Speaker 3>be hunted.
<v Speaker 2>That's why they don't really. Yeah, they may charge.
<v Speaker 3>You in the woods one on one, and this and
<v Speaker 3>that and all that, but they gonna never just attack
<v Speaker 3>you and this and that. Now, if some hikers that
<v Speaker 3>came up missing in the woods, you know what I'm saying,
<v Speaker 3>And I can't speak for that. I can't say it
<v Speaker 3>was a big foot or not, but all evidence shows
<v Speaker 3>that you get hit by a smooth criminal that somebody's
<v Speaker 3>stay in the woods and it's not a human being.
<v Speaker 3>I just put it that way, And you got some
<v Speaker 3>of them like that. They don't leave no evidence, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, because they learn we don't need
<v Speaker 3>no evidence. They come up missing, And I don't wish
<v Speaker 3>that don't no human being? What some parts we should
<v Speaker 3>just stay out of because we may be walking through
<v Speaker 3>the woods one day by ourselves, no matter we got
<v Speaker 3>a gun or not. These guys can move so fast
<v Speaker 3>you don't even know that, You don't even know they
<v Speaker 3>looking at you the whole time. That's what's bothering me, Like,
<v Speaker 3>and that's what's really scared me, Like, do y'all really
<v Speaker 3>know that they watching y'all? Will y'all come in the woods?
<v Speaker 3>They see y'all putting up these trail cameras, putting up
<v Speaker 3>sound effects and trying to get a yell, and they
<v Speaker 3>seeing all this and they don't know that they've been
<v Speaker 3>That's how I know they have never really been around
<v Speaker 3>them and really know about them.
<v Speaker 2>They just going on other people experiences.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm the person to tell everybody man, quit tempting them,
<v Speaker 3>because it's some of them in the clan that don't
<v Speaker 3>like nobody around.
<v Speaker 2>They don't like nobody around their people, and some of
<v Speaker 2>them get aggressive. Bro. I can't, I can't, you know,
<v Speaker 2>say that they not aggressive. But the ones I.
<v Speaker 3>Encounter is like they came from an ancient bloodline of
<v Speaker 3>big Foots. They like Native Americans, but they just apes.
<v Speaker 3>They got paint on their face and all that, and
<v Speaker 3>they with all the smoke, and I know I'm characterizing
<v Speaker 3>as that, but that's the best way I can to
<v Speaker 3>excribe them, you know what I'm saying. I don't want
<v Speaker 3>to describe them as being.
<v Speaker 2>No no, no boogeyman, no monster or nothing like that,
<v Speaker 2>because they're really not. They just really curious.
<v Speaker 3>And then when you on their land and you got
<v Speaker 3>a house on their land that was their land and
<v Speaker 3>their air census lands, yeah, they gonna mess with you
<v Speaker 3>while you at the house. I don't heard where people
<v Speaker 3>move out because they can't deal with the with they're
<v Speaker 3>messing with them. But if you're really real with them,
<v Speaker 3>they'll leave you alone. But you got to go out
<v Speaker 3>and talk to them. They doing all this because they
<v Speaker 3>want you to come out and have a real conversation
<v Speaker 3>with not with cameras, not with all it. Just come
<v Speaker 3>out in the woods and show yourself if like, look, man,
<v Speaker 3>I ain't got no problem with y'all.
<v Speaker 2>I know y'all been around the house and I'm scared
<v Speaker 2>of y'all. You know, just leave me alone, man, Like,
<v Speaker 2>I ain't got no problem with y'all.
<v Speaker 3>You know, you gotta let him know sometimes because they
<v Speaker 3>understand human language. They're not no dummies, bro. I can
<v Speaker 3>just tell you that they can't speak it as good,
<v Speaker 3>but they can say certain things in the human language.
<v Speaker 3>But they understand human language real good. They and they
<v Speaker 3>understand everything we talking about when we in the woods.
<v Speaker 3>So they know, like, hey, set up over here and
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna put a little camera over here, and we're
<v Speaker 3>gonna man, they hearing all that.
<v Speaker 2>They already watching you.
<v Speaker 3>Like, that's what's funny to me, Like when I see
<v Speaker 3>all these shows, man, y'all kind of disrespecting the Northern Eighth,
<v Speaker 3>the native. This is his territory. He know every bird
<v Speaker 3>that chirp, every everything that goes on in here. You
<v Speaker 3>don't think he don't smell y'all And know that y'all
<v Speaker 3>in here looking for him, like so you know, but
<v Speaker 3>one account I will tell you where he was a
<v Speaker 3>terrorizer brother and and this is one of them that
<v Speaker 3>after clan that didn't care about nothing. Now you want
<v Speaker 3>me to describe them, I'll describe them. Everybody say he
<v Speaker 3>got like an ape. Look, yeah he does.
<v Speaker 2>He got an ape.
<v Speaker 3>Look his eyes are kind of sunk in it back
<v Speaker 3>into his head. He got deep, deep eyebrows. These are
<v Speaker 3>the ones I seen because in different in different states,
<v Speaker 3>they look different, you know what I'm saying. It depends
<v Speaker 3>on the weather, what type of culture they in, and
<v Speaker 3>all that.
<v Speaker 2>They look different. Someone slender, someone bigger. You know what
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>It's all different kind of But they are the Northern
<v Speaker 3>apes and they are the Native American apes. They are
<v Speaker 3>the protector of the lands. That's what the Native American
<v Speaker 3>people call him, the protector of the lands. Some of them,
<v Speaker 3>some of them have different colors, some of them have
<v Speaker 3>this and that. But one thing they can all do
<v Speaker 3>is crawl. They can they can move on all fours
<v Speaker 3>with full speed.
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about full speed.
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about they can get up about fifty and
<v Speaker 3>I ain't never tested them to see how fast they
<v Speaker 3>can run.
<v Speaker 2>Ain't none of that.
<v Speaker 3>But if I'm guessing, they can move about fifty miles
<v Speaker 3>per hour on all fours. Now this is through the woods.
<v Speaker 3>This ain't on straight land. This ain't like running across
<v Speaker 3>the field. Because when you see them running across the field,
<v Speaker 3>they gone they can do They can move twice as
<v Speaker 3>fast as that, you know what I'm saying. But well,
<v Speaker 3>when they ain't the woods, they tend to get on
<v Speaker 3>all fours because they don't want to be worried about
<v Speaker 3>hitting branches, slowing them down doing all that. So they
<v Speaker 3>got to stay low because they in stealth mode. And
<v Speaker 3>when you see them on all fours that they either
<v Speaker 3>hunting or they coming after something or they just moving
<v Speaker 3>because a lot of times when people say, oh man,
<v Speaker 3>we heard something going, yeah, they gonna steal break stuff
<v Speaker 3>just by them being all forces because they big. But
<v Speaker 3>they got a better chance to getting more lower and
<v Speaker 3>running and this and that because they know their terrain,
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 2>And their feet looks like humans.
<v Speaker 3>It looks like human, but the only difference is that
<v Speaker 3>they're the little outside toe. I don't know what it is,
<v Speaker 3>but maybe it's gripping for them to climb trees, do
<v Speaker 3>all this. But I see them climb trees like it
<v Speaker 3>ain't nothing. You know, we think monkey can climb trees.
<v Speaker 3>They can climb trees the best of the best. I'm
<v Speaker 3>talking about like like like like chimps do just going
<v Speaker 3>from buying and vine all that. They don't do it
<v Speaker 3>like that because it ain't none of them trees big
<v Speaker 3>big that up where them big ass heavy mother like
<v Speaker 3>excuse my friends, they can't, uh, they can't grab little
<v Speaker 3>limbs and it swim like like like chimps and all
<v Speaker 3>the little monkeys do.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. So they don't.
<v Speaker 3>They don't climb small trees. So they're not just climbing
<v Speaker 3>small trees. But out in San Francisco with them big
<v Speaker 3>red woods, Oh yeah, they living good out there because
<v Speaker 3>they can climb them big trees and have no problems
<v Speaker 3>with it, you know what I'm saying. Because I got
<v Speaker 3>a popt and to stay out there. He see them
<v Speaker 3>all the time, you know what I'm saying. That he
<v Speaker 3>stay close to Redwood National.
<v Speaker 2>Park and all that. All that.
<v Speaker 3>He said, Man, they after all the time, bro, he said,
<v Speaker 3>they after all the time, and he naive America. He said, Bro,
<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't believe the things that you see if I
<v Speaker 3>was to tell I said, Bro, I already know because
<v Speaker 3>we are linked up, because we're getting ready to start
<v Speaker 3>working on the book. And he was like, man, we
<v Speaker 3>gotta put this together. What people can know the truth
<v Speaker 3>about not Harriet and Henderson of Bigfoot, but the real
<v Speaker 3>from the beginning, as God gives us to tell tell
<v Speaker 3>the people. You see both the difference between me. I
<v Speaker 3>don't need to be no lie. I don't need to
<v Speaker 3>get no fame all this. I want to I want
<v Speaker 3>to write a book and put this together the right
<v Speaker 3>way to describe them the right way. You know what
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, because I owe this to my people, and
<v Speaker 3>I owe this not only I don't owe this to
<v Speaker 3>scientists because scientists want to prove that he's real. We
<v Speaker 3>already know that he real. So there's no need of
<v Speaker 3>no evidence being all the fuck casts, all the DNA
<v Speaker 3>samples they got.
<v Speaker 2>Brother, it's okay, you know what I'm saying. So it's okay, bro,
<v Speaker 2>And nobody never believes a big Foot sighting again, you know,
<v Speaker 2>because we know that they real and God is the
<v Speaker 2>one that made them. So if God made them.
<v Speaker 3>I know they real You know, it's a lot of
<v Speaker 3>species we ain't discovered yet that.
<v Speaker 2>Scientists ain't figured out. Maybe it's not for you guys
<v Speaker 2>to figure out, you know what I'm saying, because what
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna do with them, you're already hunting them down
<v Speaker 2>when they came over.
<v Speaker 3>Now, let me give you a history lesson. Brother, Let
<v Speaker 3>me get into this, and this is true. You can
<v Speaker 3>look it up through the facts and everything you want
<v Speaker 3>to do. They hunted big foots back in the early
<v Speaker 3>days before Christopher Columbus came over here. See this is
<v Speaker 3>not written in the history books. This has been told
<v Speaker 3>by their elders. Whiteboes came over here, found out it
<v Speaker 3>was a monster in the woods that they didn't know about.
<v Speaker 3>They thought it was just Native Americans. No, they found
<v Speaker 3>out it was something in the woods that was more
<v Speaker 3>native than a Native Americans. And what they're talking about
<v Speaker 3>is the Northern Native Ape. They found out, we.
<v Speaker 2>Gotta come over here and kill this thing because.
<v Speaker 3>It's disrupting us from colonizing, coming over here, figuring out
<v Speaker 3>the secrets of North America, stealing from the ind ends
<v Speaker 3>and doing all that. So they had to come over
<v Speaker 3>and have a hunt after them. Yeah, a lot of
<v Speaker 3>them was killed. See, they don't tell this story. You
<v Speaker 3>asked a lot of Native Americans, and this is facts.
<v Speaker 3>They hunted them down like they did buffalo, taking their
<v Speaker 3>fur and and doing everything.
<v Speaker 2>They hunted them down.
<v Speaker 3>So that's why they're staying hide. And that's why when
<v Speaker 3>they see people they run, not because they're scared of you.
<v Speaker 3>You talking to the king of the forest.
<v Speaker 2>When majority of the times when they peeking them from
<v Speaker 2>the tree and all that, and then you see they gone, Yeah, man,
<v Speaker 2>they been talked to get away from you. You shouldn't
<v Speaker 2>even see them. Why did you let them see you?
<v Speaker 3>That's what their people was telling them, like why did
<v Speaker 3>you let them people see you in the woods, Like,
<v Speaker 3>don't let them come in with cameras and see you,
<v Speaker 3>because what they gonna do they gonna go back and
<v Speaker 3>tell everybody else and then we're gonna have a million
<v Speaker 3>people in here looking for us. That's how they Their
<v Speaker 3>mentality is brother And I don't blame them, you know
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, because it's ones that grew up with Like, man,
<v Speaker 3>they didn't tell me like hey.
<v Speaker 2>Josh, this is what it is.
<v Speaker 3>This is now I know them, you know what I'm saying,
<v Speaker 3>Like buddy, like like he's a real native, like he
<v Speaker 3>had a little red stripe going through and all that.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, man, he's like, no, no, do we don't
<v Speaker 2>talk to white people.
<v Speaker 3>He didn't say white people, but he pointed, like, nah,
<v Speaker 3>we don't talk to them. So why do you think
<v Speaker 3>they feel like that? They don't feel like that for
<v Speaker 3>no reason. They then taught that so anybody come in
<v Speaker 3>the woods, you don't see a lot of black people.
<v Speaker 3>A lot of African Americans or Mexicans come in the woods.
<v Speaker 2>It's always people that.
<v Speaker 3>Gave their kind of a big troke, so they know
<v Speaker 3>to stay away from them. So that's why they that's
<v Speaker 3>why they run and be elusive, because they don't want
<v Speaker 3>to be seen on camera by because they feel like.
<v Speaker 2>They'll get hunted.
<v Speaker 3>And that's why my people was mad at me about
<v Speaker 3>even talking about it.
<v Speaker 2>They're like, Josh, you're gonna expose everything I said.
<v Speaker 3>Now I ain't gonna expose everything. I'm just gonna tell
<v Speaker 3>the truth about them. So people quit thinking that were crazy.
<v Speaker 3>When we say we see a big foot, yeah we
<v Speaker 3>seen one. It's for real. It's you can't make this
<v Speaker 3>stuff up, Like I'm passionate about it because people talking
<v Speaker 3>about us like, yeah, we got a big like you
<v Speaker 3>got a big Foot channel and certain that people got
<v Speaker 3>one that they think we did sit on here talking
<v Speaker 3>about Bigfoot because we crazy and we just lose it
<v Speaker 3>over something. Now, man, we really seen these We really
<v Speaker 3>seen these apes, you know what I'm saying. We really
<v Speaker 3>know that they real Like it's time for us to
<v Speaker 3>give them some respect. They are the king of the woods, like,
<v Speaker 3>and they are the best hunters. They taught that ladies
<v Speaker 3>had to hunt, you know what I'm saying. They taught
<v Speaker 3>them how to whistle in the trees, how to make
<v Speaker 3>them noise and then woop noises and all that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>they the real hunters. People are like, oh man, we
<v Speaker 3>didn't know all that. Yeah, well now you know you
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 2>It can't be refuted because you can ask Native Americans
<v Speaker 2>about the same thing.
<v Speaker 3>They be like, yeah, he telling them, yeah he ain't.
<v Speaker 3>He ain't esking, he ain't he ain't lying by what
<v Speaker 3>he's talking about. And that way, Miguel, I want to
<v Speaker 3>bring this this story, this myth that we people think
<v Speaker 3>we are disillusional, They think we out here this making
<v Speaker 3>up sightings. You think we're making up sounds. You think
<v Speaker 3>we're doing all that, Like, what are we doing this for? What?
<v Speaker 2>To get rich? Cod Ain't none of us getting rich
<v Speaker 2>off this talking about bigfoot. You know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>You may be doing good because you got your own
<v Speaker 3>channel and all that, but I'm not on here to
<v Speaker 3>do that. I ain't here to make no money. No,
<v Speaker 3>I want to make them proud that I spoke for
<v Speaker 3>them the railway. I can describe them from detail to
<v Speaker 3>detail and everything.
<v Speaker 2>But what good is that gonna do? People still gonna think, Oh, man,
<v Speaker 2>so you've seen something, uh with colors on the face. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I seen ones dress up like natives, like with feathers
<v Speaker 2>in the head and all that.
<v Speaker 3>Because they are real native. They are real native nor
<v Speaker 3>they're not apes, That's what they are. They're elusive. They
<v Speaker 3>hiding in trees and you don't even know they're looking
<v Speaker 3>at you.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>If they wanted to attack you when you come in
<v Speaker 3>the woods, they got you, they can do it. It'll
<v Speaker 3>be a hell of an ambush. It ain't no gun
<v Speaker 3>or whatever you get with you that can stop them.
<v Speaker 3>Because they move in silence. And I'm gonna tell you
<v Speaker 3>about another counter with I witness. I witness two of
<v Speaker 3>them fighting fighting for who's gonna be the bigger one,
<v Speaker 3>who's gonna who's gonna take over the klan?
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 3>But the eldest one here, he was gray and red,
<v Speaker 3>I'll never forget. He was gray and red. And he pointed.
<v Speaker 3>He said like like he was saying, y'all, go ahead
<v Speaker 3>and go get it on. I don't know if they
<v Speaker 3>was gonna be next in the line or what. I
<v Speaker 3>don't know what they was fighting for, but I've seen this.
<v Speaker 2>They don't.
<v Speaker 3>They don't come out biting it and try to bite
<v Speaker 3>next off and do all that.
<v Speaker 2>They used pure strength. They grabbed each other, slammed each
<v Speaker 2>other like they was wrestling. They never used their teeth,
<v Speaker 2>they never did that.
<v Speaker 3>They was using their pure strength kind of beat on
<v Speaker 3>each other like a like a like a chimpanzee or
<v Speaker 3>a gorilla would beat on other, beat them by brutal force.
<v Speaker 2>That's how they was fighting. But he didn't kill him.
<v Speaker 3>He almost killed him, and then he stopped and then
<v Speaker 3>he was grunting walking away like grunting like yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>got you, like and the fight was over.
<v Speaker 2>How many people can.
<v Speaker 3>Say they've seen that, I've seen that Bigfoot's fighting for
<v Speaker 3>dominance to who's gonna be next to the line that's
<v Speaker 3>gonna take Pop's place. See, people think I'm crazy by
<v Speaker 3>saying that because they wasn't there to see it. That's
<v Speaker 3>why I was hesitated about coming out with this story,
<v Speaker 3>because I don't want people to think, like, man, dude, man,
<v Speaker 3>this is too much information.
<v Speaker 2>Now I can tell you. That's why I can honestly
<v Speaker 2>tell you like.
<v Speaker 3>These show is not doing no good, bro like Expedition
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot and doing all that. They know you in the woods,
<v Speaker 3>they know you in the woods, they know you're tracking them.
<v Speaker 3>Why are we doing clown stuff? Because we're making ourselves
<v Speaker 3>look like clowns that people that really believe even Bigfoot,
<v Speaker 3>people that really seen one, that really hurt one. This
<v Speaker 3>is a mockery. Like you guys, he ain't gonna never
<v Speaker 3>get one on camera by doing this, Like maybe it's
<v Speaker 3>best not to get them on camera.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's best to have your experience with.
<v Speaker 3>Them and being able to tell the story and people
<v Speaker 3>know that it's real and authentic, and that's it. Maybe
<v Speaker 3>we don't need to see one in no cage to
<v Speaker 3>say that bigfoot is real and I don't want one
<v Speaker 3>in no cage, and I ain't gonna tell nobody where
<v Speaker 3>they at to get one in the cage.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna do that because I'm not gonna sacrifice
<v Speaker 3>my friendship with them just so i can get some
<v Speaker 3>money or i can feel like I'm rich and famous
<v Speaker 3>because I know a bigfoot.
<v Speaker 2>Now, this is more important than me.
<v Speaker 3>Brother, This is a big omission what you're doing and
<v Speaker 3>different other researches are doing. But I just want to
<v Speaker 3>say this to all the researchers. I ain't discrediting you
<v Speaker 3>or none of that, but it's time out to start
<v Speaker 3>stop going in their position where this is a hot
<v Speaker 3>spot is oh, we've seen bigfoots that this is a
<v Speaker 3>hot spot. Man, do you think these creatures are yuh?
<v Speaker 3>You think they don't know that you're coming into their
<v Speaker 3>territory like we're insulting them. These are native like age men.
<v Speaker 3>They're intelligent, they know how to whistle, They don't do
<v Speaker 3>sign language, they speak their own language. They can disappear
<v Speaker 3>from me like it ain't nothing like. Man, I don't know, brother,
<v Speaker 3>you got any questions for me, Bro, I can go
<v Speaker 3>on with many accounts because I got more than that,
<v Speaker 3>But I don't want to hold you up all night.
<v Speaker 2>Because I got so much to say about it.
<v Speaker 3>It's just I rather just put it in bits and
<v Speaker 3>pieces and we can have a part two, Part three,
<v Speaker 3>Part four and they whatever you know, it don't matter
<v Speaker 3>to me.
<v Speaker 2>Bro.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Josh, I appreciate that, And yeah, we'll definitely have
<v Speaker 1>to do a part two to talk about the rest
<v Speaker 1>of your encounters. But what was the main reason the
<v Speaker 1>Native Americans or your people didn't want you to talk
<v Speaker 1>about this? Was it just simply because they don't want
<v Speaker 1>people to know that they exist in eastern Oklahoma? Or
<v Speaker 1>is there a lot more to it other than them
<v Speaker 1>being an unknown primate?
<v Speaker 2>Well?
<v Speaker 3>Uh. One of the reasons why is because a lot
<v Speaker 3>of people they don't pass away had NDA's they no
<v Speaker 3>longer here so I can speak about it.
<v Speaker 2>And they felt like.
<v Speaker 3>I took their stories like and should have never talked
<v Speaker 3>about them.
<v Speaker 2>They felt like I should have let it die with them.
<v Speaker 2>And another reason is they don't want this creature, well
<v Speaker 2>like they say creature, They don't want this being to
<v Speaker 2>be hunt down and treated like an animal and put
<v Speaker 2>it in a cage, and because they feel like if.
<v Speaker 3>I bring the real truth behind, how really he how
<v Speaker 3>real he really is? He was like, then people gonna
<v Speaker 3>get more curious. You're gonna have more white people out
<v Speaker 3>in the woods looking for him doing this, and then
<v Speaker 3>eventually somebody gonna shoot one of them and catch one
<v Speaker 3>of them and have them in a cage, and they're
<v Speaker 3>gonna treat them like a laboratory experience, you know. And
<v Speaker 3>that's one of the main reasons why. Brother, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it ain't it's personal with us. You know, we don't.
<v Speaker 3>We've seen him for your we know he real.
<v Speaker 2>We just don't want we don't want nobody come hunting
<v Speaker 2>him down and put him in the corner and doing
<v Speaker 2>none of that, because that's not fair to anybody. You know,
<v Speaker 2>we don't want nobody hunting us. But we out here though.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes complete sense. And whenever this bigfoot came
<v Speaker 1>out and it grabbed the coyote and slammed it into
<v Speaker 1>a tree, what was the reason behind that? Was it
<v Speaker 1>hunting the coyote or were they like in some type
<v Speaker 1>of dispute.
<v Speaker 2>Now, but it was because we was in the woods.
<v Speaker 3>We was out there doing some maguy or stuff and
<v Speaker 3>we didn't know I seen. I thought it was like
<v Speaker 3>a wolf at first, but I was like, nah, we
<v Speaker 3>ain't got no wools in Oklahoma like that, you know
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 2>But it was a coyote. And it was like one
<v Speaker 2>on the side, one on the other side, and one
<v Speaker 2>in front of us.
<v Speaker 3>And we seen him. We was like, man, there's some
<v Speaker 3>coyotes in front of us. Because that's why I told her.
<v Speaker 3>I was like, man, we getting hunted, bro, we're getting
<v Speaker 3>hunted right now.
<v Speaker 2>He's you mean, Cause was like, man, look at this
<v Speaker 2>coyote right here is the coyote is about like ten
<v Speaker 2>yards away. But they was stalking us through the woods.
<v Speaker 2>Because we was real deep in the woods. I said,
<v Speaker 2>because the next tree that we see, we need to
<v Speaker 2>hurry up and get on it. I said, because they
<v Speaker 2>own us. So as we run and we go up
<v Speaker 2>the tree and all that, I'm yelling him for my grandpa, Grandpa.
<v Speaker 2>We crying out cause we scared as hell cause we're young.
<v Speaker 2>Next thing, you know, we hear woo woo. Next thing
<v Speaker 2>we know, grab one of them, slam them to the tree.
<v Speaker 2>When I say grab one, I'm talking about by the back,
<v Speaker 2>I ain't talking about bout the neck or nothing, and
<v Speaker 2>just slam.
<v Speaker 3>Them into the tree. And you can tell that coyote
<v Speaker 3>was instantly dead. And when he came out, he kind
<v Speaker 3>of grunted us, like, man, y'all get the hell out
<v Speaker 3>of here, what y'all doing in here? Like like, and
<v Speaker 3>all the rest of the coyotes took off I'm talking
<v Speaker 3>about like they was.
<v Speaker 2>I ain't never like.
<v Speaker 3>Look they had their leg I ain't gonna say they
<v Speaker 3>had their legs tuck between it, but the way they
<v Speaker 3>took off running when he grabbed one of them because
<v Speaker 3>I guess the one didn't know that he was that
<v Speaker 3>close and he grabbed him and slamming to the tree.
<v Speaker 2>All the rest of them took off, and he kind
<v Speaker 2>of grunted us like, y'all go back, like he made
<v Speaker 2>this little noother.
<v Speaker 3>Like like like he was kind of mad that we
<v Speaker 3>was there. Like so, so I don't know what that
<v Speaker 3>was about what he was saying, but panther for y'all,
<v Speaker 3>like and just put it in the yard. My grandpa
<v Speaker 3>was like, go gonna get that panther. We're gonna take
<v Speaker 3>care of him, man, We're gonna burn him.
<v Speaker 2>Up and all that in the middle of the yard.
<v Speaker 3>See I didn't put all this together, but it was
<v Speaker 3>a black panther after that was terrorizing people, jumping people
<v Speaker 3>in front of the car, stalking people at night. So
<v Speaker 3>my grandpa, he said, don't worry about Buddy. Had take
<v Speaker 3>care of him, like Buddy got him. So I never
<v Speaker 3>knew who Buddy really was. I just I just thought
<v Speaker 3>my grandpa is talking about imaginary Bigfoot that I ain't
<v Speaker 3>never seen. But when we found that black panther in
<v Speaker 3>the yard with no I'm talking about, with no cuts
<v Speaker 3>or nothing like. It look like he just got choked
<v Speaker 3>to death. But he threw it in the middle of
<v Speaker 3>the yard, I didn't think nothing of it. I just
<v Speaker 3>thought the panther just died there because I ain't seen
<v Speaker 3>the black panther of my life in Oklahoma. But but
<v Speaker 3>we do have him down here, you know what I'm saying,
<v Speaker 3>Like Cougar's and all that other You're like, yeah, he said,
<v Speaker 3>Old Buddy took care of him because y'all got these
<v Speaker 3>kids out here and stuff, and y'all kids, you don't
<v Speaker 3>want no panther running up on you, he said. So
<v Speaker 3>I asked old Buddy to take care of I said, what, yes, buddy,
<v Speaker 3>to take care of. So I'm thinking about he talking
<v Speaker 3>about his friend Buddy. I didn't know the whole time
<v Speaker 3>he named this big foot Buddy. That's why I call
<v Speaker 3>hi buddy, cause my grandpa did. He said, yeah, buddy,
<v Speaker 3>it take care of him, all RIGHTY talked to him
<v Speaker 3>about it.
<v Speaker 2>So whatever him.
<v Speaker 3>And my grandpa talked about, he understood and he took
<v Speaker 3>care of the problem. So that's that's amazing to me. Bro,
<v Speaker 3>like that, that's something that can't be made up, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. And I would see my grandpa
<v Speaker 3>being native, he had a connection with him. He said, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I'm go down here and show you, buddy, little nests
<v Speaker 3>down here where he just be leaving bones. He do
<v Speaker 3>left nests of bones down there and this and that,
<v Speaker 3>and he yeah, sometime I come down here and throw
<v Speaker 3>Buddy something. I'm thinking he talking about his wild friend Buddy.
<v Speaker 3>I never knew Buddy was a real life but bigfoot bro.
<v Speaker 3>I never really understood this, like this is for real talk,
<v Speaker 3>like from a little kid.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 3>I don't seen him from eleven all the way up,
<v Speaker 3>but I never seen him before that. So when I'm young,
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking about it. He's talking about Buddy, his friend, like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>Buddy took care of him. I'm like, really, He's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I ain't nothing gonna come up here, man, he said,
<v Speaker 3>don't worry about it, grandson, he said, old Buddy were
<v Speaker 3>looking at everything.
<v Speaker 2>He said. That's why I'm telling y'all go down to
<v Speaker 2>the house late at night, because he told me y'all
<v Speaker 2>be running out eleven to twelve.
<v Speaker 3>And he caught y'all running down to the house late
<v Speaker 3>at night. I'm like, so Buddy seen us. I said,
<v Speaker 3>where is this dude?
<v Speaker 2>Buddy, Like is this your friend? But then when I
<v Speaker 2>found out who Buddy really is, I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>he's like a little protector over us. Like he wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>let nobody.
<v Speaker 3>Come in the yard, no dogs, no wild dogs or anything,
<v Speaker 3>like he's the protector brother.
<v Speaker 2>Like that's all I can say about him. That's you know, that's.
<v Speaker 3>Where I can speak about him, how I can speak
<v Speaker 3>about him, you know, because and then when I got
<v Speaker 3>from living all the way up I seen him. I'm like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>this who Buddy really is? This is really a big foot.
<v Speaker 3>So now I'm normalized to it. But when other people
<v Speaker 3>hear me talk about it, They're be like, Bro, you
<v Speaker 3>do realize you're talking about a big foot, don't. I'm like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>it's like, bro, ain't no such things bigfoot?
<v Speaker 2>Bro? Like you just uh, maybe you've seen something.
<v Speaker 3>Bro.
<v Speaker 2>Now I know what I see in them caves. I know,
<v Speaker 2>and I know the noises that they make.
<v Speaker 3>They make hooping now noises just like Native Americans do.
<v Speaker 3>Like I know, I'm not exaggerated by none of that.
<v Speaker 3>I've seen all this. I witnessed that. I seen his
<v Speaker 3>cousins come out in the middle road paralyzing and walking
<v Speaker 3>up towards us and put his hands up like what's up?
<v Speaker 3>Like like and it's scared to me.
<v Speaker 2>It scared of me and my cousin Ronald, because we
<v Speaker 2>walked from Kivy Leaves and he put his hands out
<v Speaker 2>like what's up? Like he didn't say it like that,
<v Speaker 2>but he put his hands out like yeah, I got y'all.
<v Speaker 2>You how scared you did?
<v Speaker 3>Not? Like That's basically what he was doing. He wasn't
<v Speaker 3>talking to us to hunt us. Now, he just came
<v Speaker 3>out to scared us, like yeah, I'm the little cousin.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying? What's up Like that's basically
<v Speaker 2>like they was playing a joke on us, Bro, Like
<v Speaker 2>that's all I can really say about it.
<v Speaker 3>Like every time we walking in the streets in the
<v Speaker 3>country out there, it always be like one or two
<v Speaker 3>watching us. They weren't watching us because they won't do
<v Speaker 3>something to us. They're just watching just protecting us, like
<v Speaker 3>they protected the land. That's how they are. They serious
<v Speaker 3>about that. And then if they've really messed with you
<v Speaker 3>and mess with your family, they a't gonna let nobody
<v Speaker 3>bother you like, and they take certain things serious, especially
<v Speaker 3>when other people come on your land. Oh, they gonna
<v Speaker 3>give them a fit, Like they're gonna they gonna do
<v Speaker 3>some things. They gonna they'll terrorize them, you know what
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I got a lot of other stuff to
<v Speaker 2>talk about, Bro.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I agree with you about the sasquatch becoming
<v Speaker 1>more territorial when people are in their areas hunting or
<v Speaker 1>fishing and it's it's their land, so it makes sense
<v Speaker 1>to me. And I also agree about these creeture moving
<v Speaker 1>faster when they're on all fours. I've seen it two
<v Speaker 1>different times, and they moved through the woods like a
<v Speaker 1>chimp and yeah, when they're using all four limbs. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they're able to move a lot quicker. Actually, I've seen
<v Speaker 1>it three times. The third time it looked like it
<v Speaker 1>was excuse me, it looked like it was running like
<v Speaker 1>a cheetah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the way they put the front
<v Speaker 3>legs out with their front arms and maybe, yeah, they
<v Speaker 3>gon'e bro like, hey, you know what, I guarantee you
<v Speaker 3>they can probably run faster than cheetah.
<v Speaker 2>Now I don't know that.
<v Speaker 3>I can't say that because I don't know, but the
<v Speaker 3>way they can move like they can disappear quick, you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when they took off, I mean they ran through
<v Speaker 1>the woods, hit the creek bottom, and they were gone.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, did you see them here at my place
<v Speaker 1>where I'm living at And basically I went through the
<v Speaker 1>woods doing out hoots. I was in a gilly suit
<v Speaker 1>and it was raining that day, and whenever I did
<v Speaker 1>the islehoots, I moved through the woods real silently, and
<v Speaker 1>three of them ran up. I couldn't see their faces.
<v Speaker 1>I just saw these black figures and they're bobbing their
<v Speaker 1>heads up and down. I wasn't sure what it was
<v Speaker 1>at the time, but then like they noticed me, and
<v Speaker 1>they took off through the woods, and that's when they
<v Speaker 1>ran like a cheetah. But whenever it was sprawled out,
<v Speaker 1>whenever it ran, and it had like its front arms
<v Speaker 1>in front of it, like it was ginormous. It was
<v Speaker 1>like the size of like a full grown black bear.
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, WHOA, I think that was them.
<v Speaker 1>I can't say for sure it was bigfoot, but I
<v Speaker 1>don't know what else it would be, because when they
<v Speaker 1>ran up, they were bipedal, and when they took off
<v Speaker 1>their on all fours.
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, brother, I can take you to a
<v Speaker 3>place down here that sacred that you know. I can
<v Speaker 3>take you to a place down here and without no
<v Speaker 3>cameras at all that And if you want to see
<v Speaker 3>one for real, they really for real because Buddy and
<v Speaker 3>his plans said, but buddy older than that.
<v Speaker 2>But Buddy like that.
<v Speaker 3>You know, he got like twelve feet and he all
<v Speaker 3>gray now because he older now, and he ain't he
<v Speaker 3>ain't the prime in his clan, you know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 2>He got his son that's running things and all that now.
<v Speaker 3>But he would accept that because I'll let him know, Hey, man,
<v Speaker 3>bring somebody out here. This ain't for cap and stuff
<v Speaker 3>that saint, you know what I'm saying, and then he'll
<v Speaker 3>show hisself because he want to be seen. Bro. He
<v Speaker 3>just don't want certain things, you know, like you know,
<v Speaker 3>like he don't want none of his people and to
<v Speaker 3>be captured and things like that, because Bro, they man,
<v Speaker 3>they very important. Bro, you know what I'm saying, Because
<v Speaker 3>they were tecting me as a kid, like especially from
<v Speaker 3>them coyotes. Man, I'll never forget that because if it
<v Speaker 3>wasn't for him doing that, I would have been in trouble.
<v Speaker 3>I would have never because my grandpa couldn't hear me
<v Speaker 3>because I'm deep in the woods or you know what.
<v Speaker 2>And if it wasn't for.
<v Speaker 3>Him, we've been sitting ducks until we got down, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. So so I'm thankful behind that.
<v Speaker 3>And that's how I know God is behind the creatures,
<v Speaker 3>like they'll look out for you, man, because God is
<v Speaker 3>good man, and God got control everything.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. So that's why I don't
<v Speaker 2>worry about it. Brothers.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with you. And I've often thought about
<v Speaker 1>these creatures leaving tracks in the snow, and I'll go
<v Speaker 1>out there looking for tracks even in deep remote areas
<v Speaker 1>and I don't find any. And that was kind of
<v Speaker 1>my theory was these things must be jumping from tree
<v Speaker 1>to tree or they're like interdimensional. You mentioned that when
<v Speaker 1>when it snows, they'll move from tree to tree.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, uh huh yeah, yeah, yeah, they move from a
<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you this, I have seen them move
<v Speaker 3>from tree to tree.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 3>They can grab little trees probably about like eight inches
<v Speaker 3>thick and all that. What they do they swing off them.
<v Speaker 3>They got this move where they keep their feet up
<v Speaker 3>and they swing off of what they don't never have
<v Speaker 3>to touch the ground, you know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 2>And they do that in the summertime too, Like that's
<v Speaker 2>why they so massively strong. Bro, they like some gymnastics
<v Speaker 2>in the woods, right, they do all that stuff. Like
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm just being I'm just characterizing how nimble
<v Speaker 2>they are, but they are. And people can understand, how
<v Speaker 2>can the creature this big climb trees? Man, they can
<v Speaker 2>climb trees. They all the northern apes. They that's why
<v Speaker 2>they apes.
<v Speaker 3>You know they eat Grilla can climb too big as
<v Speaker 3>they are, they could. Yeah, you ain't gonna see grilla
<v Speaker 3>way up in the tree. Now, have I ever seen
<v Speaker 3>them kill a deer or this all that. Now, I
<v Speaker 3>ain't never seen them do any of that, but I
<v Speaker 3>see them come back with meat and do all that.
<v Speaker 3>And yes, they do eat eat flesh and do all that.
<v Speaker 3>They eat fish, to eat berries, They eat certain type
<v Speaker 3>of trees, this and that and all that. They can
<v Speaker 3>make nests, they can do all that. They know how
<v Speaker 3>to use their hands to do it. They don't make
<v Speaker 3>no boring arrows and do all that native stuff like that.
<v Speaker 2>They don't do anything.
<v Speaker 3>But they get rocks that are sharp where they can
<v Speaker 3>cut meat up. I've seen them do that before. I
<v Speaker 3>seen them have some sharp rocks and cut meat up before. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>they'll tear their leg off of any animal, but.
<v Speaker 2>They'll cut it up and share amongst their tribe and
<v Speaker 2>do all that and all that. And if you don't,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you another thing. If you don't eat
<v Speaker 2>with them, that's a sign of disrespect, you know, like
<v Speaker 2>Native Americans. You go out and hunting with them. Like
<v Speaker 2>I think about that.
<v Speaker 3>Movie Danz with the Wolves, when when when they shot
<v Speaker 3>that buffalo and the Indian pulled that little uh, I
<v Speaker 3>don't know where the liver Wasn't that and then wasn't
<v Speaker 3>they male giz it? The Kevin Castle took a bite out.
<v Speaker 3>That's how they is. They want you to try what
<v Speaker 3>they got, you know what I'm saying. That's how they is,
<v Speaker 3>and if you don't, that's a sign of disrespect them.
<v Speaker 3>That's one thing I can tell about it. Native is
<v Speaker 3>the same way. Native America is the same way. Like
<v Speaker 3>when they go on to kill and do all that,
<v Speaker 3>they something Wow, they eat they eat things off the
<v Speaker 3>flash that they don't cook it all the way.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Not.
<v Speaker 2>They want to eat the heart.
<v Speaker 3>They want to do this and all that because I
<v Speaker 3>guess that's just warrior stuff to them, you know.
<v Speaker 2>So that's how they is. They the same way. Now.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if the Natives got it from them
<v Speaker 3>or or the natives got it from them.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know which way it goes. Brother, I can't
<v Speaker 2>speculate on that. I don't.
<v Speaker 3>I ain't got that far into it. But one thing
<v Speaker 3>I do know that these are some Native creatures and
<v Speaker 3>they know when people are in the woods.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>Because I don't know something about their hearing, They can
<v Speaker 3>hear things and they be like, yep, somebody here.
<v Speaker 2>They can hear. They can hear things like miles away,
<v Speaker 2>like somebody here. They can tell when people footsteps in
<v Speaker 2>the in the woods. They know when people setting up cameras.
<v Speaker 2>That's why you don't never catch them on them trail camps.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, people getting these little pictures.
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's one.
<v Speaker 3>Now they know that they there because they can smell it,
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. It's foreign to them, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. They can smell everything in the woods.
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't know they had that sense of smell,
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, until I've seen them start hunting,
<v Speaker 2>come back with something, and and when they come back
<v Speaker 2>they not they not like monssels, like just tearing up
<v Speaker 2>the meat and going crazy like wild apes and all that.
<v Speaker 2>Now they civilize with it, you know what I say.
<v Speaker 2>Like they'll cut the meat up and they got a
<v Speaker 2>little sharp little this and that and all that, and
<v Speaker 2>they just fight amongst each other. But they do eat
<v Speaker 2>raw meat. Though they do eat raw meat, they do,
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. They eat herbs and all
<v Speaker 2>that stuff too. Because I've seen all this, you know
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>So that's that's the reason why my people didn't want
<v Speaker 3>me to come over here and tell the story because
<v Speaker 3>they're like, man, you're gonna tell the real true nature
<v Speaker 3>about it.
<v Speaker 2>Man, I think people should know about him, so quit.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I ain't saying people hunting them.
<v Speaker 3>But if somebody get killed bro on one of these
<v Speaker 3>little cap and trips where you run across one that
<v Speaker 3>don't just really give them, and he kill all the cameras,
<v Speaker 3>then it's gonna be a problem. Then they're gonna really
<v Speaker 3>be hunting big Foot, and I don't want that because
<v Speaker 3>you may come across one in his territory. He may
<v Speaker 3>be having a bad day, or he may just not
<v Speaker 3>want nobody around, you know what I'm saying. He may
<v Speaker 3>just get kicked out the crew, like he got challenged
<v Speaker 3>by a young one and now he's on the outskirts,
<v Speaker 3>so now he just on his own.
<v Speaker 2>So everything's a problem with him because he's mad, you
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. So we think he gonna do
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, if you see some people and all that,
<v Speaker 2>yeah he gonna You're gonna.
<v Speaker 3>But thank god, we ain't never really had that happen.
<v Speaker 3>You know that God will allow that not to happen.
<v Speaker 3>But Uh, I just don't want that to happen to people,
<v Speaker 3>because because we got more people hunting for Bigfoot, we
<v Speaker 3>got more people making these shows about him. Eventually somebody
<v Speaker 3>gonna catch one of them and put one in the corner,
<v Speaker 3>and then you're gonna find out what type of strength
<v Speaker 3>and how he really has and and it may not
<v Speaker 3>be nice. And then to the average human being, they're
<v Speaker 3>gonna look at all, he just slaughtered the human being.
<v Speaker 3>But don't you know, he was protecting itself. He felt
<v Speaker 3>like he was threatening, Like he got all these people
<v Speaker 3>in the woods looking for him, and then he just
<v Speaker 3>felt threatened, and then he just made one false move
<v Speaker 3>and then everybody else is gonna accuse big for the
<v Speaker 3>being a man killer and this and that with all
<v Speaker 3>he doing just protecting his his territory.
<v Speaker 2>Brother.
<v Speaker 3>Like you know what I'm saying, Like that's how God
<v Speaker 3>got to be, you know, Like it's certainly if you
<v Speaker 3>should have you're gonna go up there and live with
<v Speaker 3>gorilla all the time now because gorillas are turned on
<v Speaker 3>you too. Yeah, you go up there and studying them,
<v Speaker 3>and some of them may allow you to be around,
<v Speaker 3>but it's gonna be that point where that gorilla gonna
<v Speaker 3>get with that wild gonna come out in him, and
<v Speaker 3>he gonna be like and that's why they look down
<v Speaker 3>on grills, like, don't look him in the eye because
<v Speaker 3>uh yeah, while he up here breaking branches and doing
<v Speaker 3>all this acting crazy, same thing Bigfoot does.
<v Speaker 2>He got you. And especially when he look in your eyes,
<v Speaker 2>he know what you're thinking and everything.
<v Speaker 3>You know that you're scared. You know that you don't
<v Speaker 3>want no problems when people be telling you, so, oh,
<v Speaker 3>I just took off running, Man, don't you know he
<v Speaker 3>can catch you? Like while you talking about you just
<v Speaker 3>took off.
<v Speaker 2>Running, Like That's how I know he don't want no
<v Speaker 2>problems with you, because when all these people tell these
<v Speaker 2>stories talking about, oh they seen one and I just
<v Speaker 2>took off running the fastest I could in my life.
<v Speaker 3>Man, he could have caught you. He could have caught
<v Speaker 3>you and just dismantled you, you know, but he didn't.
<v Speaker 3>He gave you a pass, you know.
<v Speaker 2>So those are the stories, bro, that I can tell
<v Speaker 2>you many about. Bro, But I ain't gonna hold you
<v Speaker 2>up all night. Man, you don't got me talking about
<v Speaker 2>talking about kind of like a family member to me.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, because that's how I look
<v Speaker 2>at them. To me, like, I ain't never had no
<v Speaker 2>problem with me, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't.
<v Speaker 3>Get scared about some of them and his clan and
<v Speaker 3>all that, because they don't ac sect humans. They don't
<v Speaker 3>like humans to come around because they feel like you're
<v Speaker 3>trying to set them up. You're trying to be around them,
<v Speaker 3>to bring other people in and to be a witness
<v Speaker 3>of them and all that. They're like, man, if I
<v Speaker 3>bring anybody around, man, it ain't gonna be with no
<v Speaker 3>cameras or nothing.
<v Speaker 2>Man, It's just all real, you know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>Because because they don't like cameras, bro, and they take
<v Speaker 3>that person, they're like, oh, you're trying to get a
<v Speaker 3>story out of us. Like we've seen what happen when
<v Speaker 3>cameras come around. People start come hunting us. And that's
<v Speaker 3>how they think. They think when they see cameras around,
<v Speaker 3>they're being hunted. That's how they feel. That's why they
<v Speaker 3>be elusive and doing. They're showing you all their tricks
<v Speaker 3>what they can do. They can disappear. I ain't saying
<v Speaker 3>they disappear in the magic. No, they just showing how
<v Speaker 3>fast they can move. They can walk up on you
<v Speaker 3>and be a certain ways from it and you don't
<v Speaker 3>even know they looking at you. And then when they
<v Speaker 3>let them look, when they let that smell out like
<v Speaker 3>it'skunk do, that's a warning too, like, man, it's something
<v Speaker 3>funky around here?
<v Speaker 2>What's that smell? You know?
<v Speaker 3>That's when they starting to get aggressive, like yeah, we're
<v Speaker 3>letting the smell out to let you know. Man, they
<v Speaker 3>won't have to come hunt you at night this thing.
<v Speaker 3>By all times people be camping and all that, and
<v Speaker 3>they can just easily run up and grab you out
<v Speaker 3>and just terrorize something you know, and they know you
<v Speaker 3>in their territory. So I think they're giving people more
<v Speaker 3>passes than we are giving them passages, Like especially when
<v Speaker 3>you're in the woods by yourself or you with some
<v Speaker 3>people and all that. Man, all they take is like
<v Speaker 3>three or four of them to come get your camp.
<v Speaker 3>It's over with brothers, Like, I don't care what cameras
<v Speaker 3>or anything you got. They can take care of business
<v Speaker 3>real quick. And because they are some killers, they hunters,
<v Speaker 3>they hunt animals. Brother like, these are the some hunters,
<v Speaker 3>Like they are professional killers.
<v Speaker 2>They not know clowns.
<v Speaker 3>They they're wild, and I think people are starting to
<v Speaker 3>not really understanding when they're going out here with these
<v Speaker 3>cameras and making a joke of this stuff. Man, it's
<v Speaker 3>not a joke, brother, This is for real. If they
<v Speaker 3>really want to get you, they can get you. And
<v Speaker 3>it don't take long for them to get to you
<v Speaker 3>because they already know you in there woods.
<v Speaker 2>They know it. So yeah, they got certain spots like
<v Speaker 2>the National Force.
<v Speaker 3>That's why the government that kind of like, man, all
<v Speaker 3>lady guys alone, like, we don't want to hear stories
<v Speaker 3>about them because we know they real. When we have
<v Speaker 3>heard about accounts about them messing with loggers coming up there,
<v Speaker 3>cutting trees down, them, destroying people, machines and coming through
<v Speaker 3>scaring the shit out the logs.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you're in their territory, you cutting down there,
<v Speaker 2>the little habitat. They don't like that, you know what
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>And there has been people in the history where they
<v Speaker 3>have killed people, you know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 2>They came after them, dragged them and everything. You know,
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go back.
<v Speaker 3>To Lafour, who was chirity keecking all that is when
<v Speaker 3>they had that great battle with them and all that
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's for real, you know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>But people think it's just folk. Lord, they think it's
<v Speaker 3>just a story made up.
<v Speaker 2>Brother, you know, I say.
<v Speaker 3>But God is so good, though, Bro, he gives what's
<v Speaker 3>the ability to understand that this is really real? This
<v Speaker 3>is one of the well, this is one of the
<v Speaker 3>animals that I have created to live here on Earth
<v Speaker 3>that was on the ship with Noah. Y'all just don't
<v Speaker 3>know about.
<v Speaker 2>It, you know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Bro, don't even get me going like how
<v Speaker 3>I'll bring facts in everything, you know me. So I
<v Speaker 3>just want to I just want to represent for all
<v Speaker 3>the people, bro, that's scared to come, scared to come
<v Speaker 3>forward and tell the truth about big Foot because people
<v Speaker 3>may joke about it because having stories like these, Man,
<v Speaker 3>I don't really care if nobody believe what I'm talking about.
<v Speaker 2>Bro.
<v Speaker 3>I don't seen them. I lived around them. I know
<v Speaker 3>how they are, I know how they think. I know
<v Speaker 3>what they can do. They they are. They are magicians
<v Speaker 3>in the woods. They are the master of the woods.
<v Speaker 3>And and then people don't understand that because they ain't. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you can be a hunter all your life, you can
<v Speaker 3>be a fisherman or whatever you claim to be. Man,
<v Speaker 3>that's cool. But one thing about it, man, these this
<v Speaker 3>is no live about them. They really exist and they're
<v Speaker 3>hiding itself because they feel like they are being in hunted.
<v Speaker 3>It's too many people out here with cameras and disrespecting
<v Speaker 3>them and thinking they're gonna get them on camera.
<v Speaker 2>Oh I got one on thermal Man. You really disrespecting
<v Speaker 2>them because they can hear you. They hear you talking,
<v Speaker 2>they hear you on this and that. They hear you
<v Speaker 2>walking through the woods looking for them. They hear you,
<v Speaker 2>they see you setting up devices to see if they're
<v Speaker 2>gonna cross this sound bar. They see all this, like
<v Speaker 2>you kind of disrespecting these guys. Like these guys are intelligent.
<v Speaker 2>They know that you are in their woods. They're just
<v Speaker 2>like if somebody walking your house, you gonna know somebody
<v Speaker 2>in your house, because because your house don't sound the same.
<v Speaker 2>You hear some footsteps on the floor, you hear this,
<v Speaker 2>you hear your door open, you hear this.
<v Speaker 3>Man, they the same way, but they hear everything. They
<v Speaker 3>know all the birds. They can mock in anything in
<v Speaker 3>the woods. They can sound like a deer. They want
<v Speaker 3>to disguise theirself as that because they are hunters. They
<v Speaker 3>trying to draw prey in, you know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>And they really don't want to hunt humans, you know
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. But when humans start to get too
<v Speaker 3>close and you put them in the corner, bro, I
<v Speaker 3>don't I don't wish this on nobody, but uh it's
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be something coming up where you're gonna hear
<v Speaker 3>about where one of this.
<v Speaker 2>Nihiligated human being. And I don't want that, but uh.
<v Speaker 3>We putting on them, were putting them in the corner.
<v Speaker 3>And what's the dog gonna do? When you put a
<v Speaker 3>dog in the corner, it's gonna fight back. And these
<v Speaker 3>are the type of dogs you don't want to fight
<v Speaker 3>because they can cause some complete destruction. And they fast
<v Speaker 3>and it don't take long for them just to just
<v Speaker 3>rip your head off your body. They that strong, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. I mean, really they that strong
<v Speaker 3>like to us, they like we like toys of them,
<v Speaker 3>Like they can just punch us and probably punch a
<v Speaker 3>hole through.
<v Speaker 2>Us, you know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>Like, like that's how strong they are, Like they massive
<v Speaker 3>like and this strength is you think of gorilla are strong. Nah,
<v Speaker 3>the strength they got can't be compared to a gorilla. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>a little bit be punched it them. So what's that
<v Speaker 3>put put you in? That's why they break limbs and
<v Speaker 3>do all that. When you're around, they showing their aggressive
<v Speaker 3>that when you start hearing them big snaps like oh man,
<v Speaker 3>that was a big limb. Yeah, they letting you know, hey, man,
<v Speaker 3>I don't want you around here, honey.
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm giving you a warning by breaking all these
<v Speaker 2>trees and doing these knocks and making these these little
<v Speaker 2>And then when.
<v Speaker 3>You start hear them all of them start communicating. They
<v Speaker 3>let you know you circled in. When you hear three
<v Speaker 3>or four of them start doing in woofs, oh they
<v Speaker 3>all around you now like and and people tell us, oh,
<v Speaker 3>it's from a distance now.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 3>They know how to make their voice seem like they're
<v Speaker 3>closer or farther away. So when you start hearing three
<v Speaker 3>of them four community, they watching all y'all. They what
<v Speaker 3>they doing in here?
<v Speaker 2>They so now they care us about you doing it here.
<v Speaker 3>And then they start making little whoops out. Well, let's
<v Speaker 3>go gonna start breaking some sticks. Let's gonna do this.
<v Speaker 3>We can scare them away and start making some noises.
<v Speaker 3>That's what they're doing, trying to scare you away because
<v Speaker 3>they're like, man, you're getting too close, homie, Like this
<v Speaker 3>is our territory.
<v Speaker 2>Like show us some respect, and then when you respect it.
<v Speaker 3>They won't bother you. Like if you don't go no father.
<v Speaker 3>Once they start doing all that and you don't go
<v Speaker 3>no father, they gonna come up and mess with you.
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna start doing little things and this and that.
<v Speaker 3>But they ain't gonna let you see him unless they
<v Speaker 3>really want you to see him, and they want you
<v Speaker 3>to do that. They know that you're cool and all that,
<v Speaker 3>and you ain't here for no purposes to bring nobody
<v Speaker 3>else there.
<v Speaker 2>See, they like to see familiar faces. Like if you
<v Speaker 2>live on the land and you always in the woods,
<v Speaker 2>they always watching you. They're like, oh, man, maybe we'll.
<v Speaker 3>Show ourselves to him, because he lives on land and
<v Speaker 3>he ain't here for no you know, he ain't got
<v Speaker 3>no cameras or nothing. He just in here this messing
<v Speaker 3>around fishing every day and doing this thing. Maybe we
<v Speaker 3>just gonna pay it one day and just see how
<v Speaker 3>he react. That's how they thinking in their minds, like
<v Speaker 3>let's see if he gets scared and see how you feel.
<v Speaker 3>Chase him down then because we know we can get them.
<v Speaker 3>That's how they think it end. In mine life, when
<v Speaker 3>people take off running, bro, that's the wrong thing. When
<v Speaker 3>I be hearing stories, I'm like, so, y'all took off
<v Speaker 3>running and the fast year run in your life and
<v Speaker 3>he didn't catch you now because he didn't want to
<v Speaker 3>catch you. You know they he was just trying to
<v Speaker 3>scare you to get the hell out of there, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Because he could have caught you
<v Speaker 3>if he wanted to.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, all right, Josh. I really appreciate you sharing
<v Speaker 1>these encounters and experiences with me, and I really enjoyed
<v Speaker 1>hearing your perspective on these creatures according to your experiences,
<v Speaker 1>and I really do respect that. I'm having some issues
<v Speaker 1>with my recorder, but I was able to get most
<v Speaker 1>of it, so I'll be able to piece it together,
<v Speaker 1>and I really apologize about that. And i'd like to
<v Speaker 1>have you on for a part too. I'll leave your
<v Speaker 1>name on my list and all write down part two,
<v Speaker 1>and if you're up for it sometime, i'd like to
<v Speaker 1>set it up because I want to hear more about
<v Speaker 1>your encounters, and they're very intriguing to me because I'm
<v Speaker 1>from the Midwest as well, so I want to hear
<v Speaker 1>more about these experiences and more about your culture regarding
<v Speaker 1>these creatures.
<v Speaker 3>When that's no problem, Bro, I just want to let
<v Speaker 3>you know this, Bro, I ain't doing this for no show.
<v Speaker 2>Bro. I'm just doing this to bring light to what's
<v Speaker 2>really real out here. You know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>So I respect what you're doing, Bro, And you keep
<v Speaker 3>doing that, man, because you know God is good man,
<v Speaker 3>and he'll give us the building.
<v Speaker 2>You know, the truth will come out at the end
<v Speaker 2>of the day, you know.
<v Speaker 3>Say, that's one thing I don't ever have to worry
<v Speaker 3>about if people believe what I'm saying or not. Man,
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's all I'm on God's time, brother, So
<v Speaker 3>you be safe, brother, and you take care of yourself,
<v Speaker 3>all right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you too, and I'll keep in touch with you, okay,
<v Speaker 1>all right, brother, all right, you take.
<v Speaker 2>Care all right, you too? Brother. Bye.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us on Sasquatch theory. A huge
<v Speaker 1>thank you to Josh for sharing knowledge that his family
<v Speaker 1>has guarded for generations. His encounters show just how intelligent, powerful,
<v Speaker 1>and mysterious. These beings truly are. Josh had a lot
<v Speaker 1>to say about these beings, and he was very firm
<v Speaker 1>about his beliefs regarding the origins of Sasquatch. I find
<v Speaker 1>it interesting because the most Native Americans say they're a people,
<v Speaker 1>and Josh believes that they are a sort of primate.
<v Speaker 1>But he did say that they are very similar to
<v Speaker 1>Native Americans, so they are very human like and they
<v Speaker 1>are very intelligent. I thought it was interesting that the
<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch in the cave, they were wearing face paint and
<v Speaker 1>even clothing, so this makes me feel like they are
<v Speaker 1>more human than primate. But humans are primates. We are animals.
<v Speaker 1>We are a creature. We are known as mammals, so
<v Speaker 1>it does make sense. And the Native Americans they really
<v Speaker 1>did utilize sign language, so it doesn't surprise me that
<v Speaker 1>the Sasquatch would use sign language as a form of communication.
<v Speaker 2>They will.
<v Speaker 1>They even have their own language. They will they'll whoop
<v Speaker 1>if people are around, or would knock, which isn't anything
<v Speaker 1>new to me. But it's very cool to hear other
<v Speaker 1>people describe the same activity and behaviors that I've experienced.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I still have yet to see a sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>wearing clothes or face paint, but I'm not disgarding it.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's possible. If you've had a sighting or an
<v Speaker 1>encounter of your own and would like to be on
<v Speaker 1>the show, email me anytime at Sasquatchthory at outlook dot com.
<v Speaker 1>Stay safe, trust your intuition in the woods, and always
<v Speaker 1>remember the forest is watching. Until next time, keep seeking
<v Speaker 1>the truth.