Nickmercs Opens Up About Streaming Journey, Getting Banned From Twitch, & Dr. Disrespect
0:00 Intro 0:52 please subscribe 2:41 What A Weekend? 3:44 Is Michigan Done? 4:18 Introducing Our Guest 16:37 Nebraska Is All The Way Back 20:05 How Many Losses Will Michigan Have? 39:26 Nick Is Up Big After This Weekend 42:48 NFL Players He Plays With 46:28 Becoming A Father And How It Has Changed Streaming 54:31 Mending The Relationship With His Dad 55:41 Nick Was Almost A Navy Seals 1:07:53 Do Not Mess With Wrestlers 1:20:14 What Nick Did After Seals? 1:22:04 When Did Streaming Start To Evolve? 1:29:29 Making Streaming A Business 1:29:48 Getting Cancelled On Twitch 1:39:12 Dr. Disrespect 1:50:11 Gambling In Vegas 1:52:28 Some Streamer Are Awful 1:58:33 Worst Ass Kissing Everyone Got 2:12:06 Twisted Question OTW 2:19:10 Tier Talk - Vintage Game Consoles
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00:00:01 Speaker 1: All right, We're good. 00:00:03 Speaker 2: You like go. 00:00:05 Speaker 3: Busting with the boys, hanging with the fast, betting on a game. No moment's gonna tell us what you do. 00:00:24 Speaker 1: Not be over here. 00:00:29 Speaker 3: Just drinking beer and making that baby. I'm hanging with the fellows, Busting with the Boys. 00:00:41 Speaker 4: Bro Roland. Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. This is episode almost three hundred. Are the Huskers back? We will talk about that in a minute, But first, if you're watching on YouTube, please, for the love of God, subscribe. If you're listening on audio, make sure you're following the boys on Spotify, Apple, Google, everything in between, and your boys. In the intro, we will be doing we'll be recapping the weekends. We have the show The Locker Room that is now on Thursday mornings at six am releasing where we will preview the weekend talk majority of our football. We have an awesome guest, Nick Merks, on deck today. He's gonna be at the bus here in a minute. But first, our presenting sponsor, the Chevy Silverado. There is a reason we've never done a tier talk for best pickup trucks, and that's because Busting with the Boys there's only one pickup truck for us, and that is the Chevy Silverado. Why is that, you ass because Silverado is a partner, a partner you can depend on. We've all spent time driving and using the Silverado for all kinds of adventures and other shenanigans. Silverado was a partner with us on the Spring Tour. They are also a partner with us on the Fall Tour. They bring grit, legendary grit paired with modern truck tech inside and out, massive screens, up to eight cameras with fourteen listen to me fourteen different views to help make strong driving, towing, and part all easier. We love the bold, blacked out look of the all new Silverado HD Trail Boss. Your boy has a blacked out ZR two. There's a reason Chevy's America's most awarded brand for new vehicle quality over the last three years, according to JD Power. So head over to Chevy dot com, build your own Silverado or Silverado HD and check out all the other Silverado's on the market. Discovery world of strength and Capability, all behind the wheel of our favorite truck, the Chevy Silverado. It's received the highest total number of awards compared to all of the brands and the JD Power twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four US initial quality studies. Just visit jdpower dot com slash Awards for more details. What a weekend, boys? We had an iconic weekend of getting to shout out Twist the Tea for allowing the boys to fly private eat wings on the plane from Mister Spots out of ann Arbor, Michigan. We got to go to Michigan, Texas, then we hopped on the bird to make Colorado and Nebraska flew out the next morning. It truly was, dude, I mean it was. It's gonna be the most one of the more memorable weekends we look back on one day, just knowing all the boys got to hit two headlining games. Taylor, I do wish Michigan would have pulled it off. That was the only con to the entire thing. How how you look? You look rough right now? 00:03:21 Speaker 1: Bro? 00:03:21 Speaker 4: How can we Well? 00:03:22 Speaker 2: I'm not rough? Will thank you for asking. I actually feel pretty good. Before the show started, Sherman gave me an eight milligram Lucy, and currently I'm getting fucked up by it right now. 00:03:33 Speaker 1: My heads are in the Cloud. 00:03:34 Speaker 2: I'm feeling very loose, very loose. And as you were saying all those words for the Chevy podcast, I thought to myself, do I take it out? 00:03:42 Speaker 1: Do I not? 00:03:42 Speaker 2: You might throw up whatever? Yes, Michigan lost, Yeah, and for years. I mean, I don't think Mitchell members the last time Michigan did lose a regular season game. I don't think any of us really do. And so when you win, it's not the best teacher. It doesn't teach you how to keep success going. Eventually you have to lose because losing, unfortunately for anybody who's played any competitive anything. 00:04:10 Speaker 4: Over here, we got him here, perfect timing, perfect, You're just worth Three minutes into our intro, get on introducing Nick merksing. 00:04:23 Speaker 2: What's up, brother, get in here. 00:04:25 Speaker 4: We got you a seat. 00:04:29 Speaker 1: I was hoping to come. 00:04:32 Speaker 4: Come. 00:04:34 Speaker 5: I was telling, yeah, that's what we're just one taking note for an answer, twisted? 00:04:53 Speaker 1: Are we man? 00:04:54 Speaker 2: And listen, give me one second to re collect my thoughts. I'm high on Lucy right now. Let me get let me get dialed in. 00:05:04 Speaker 4: Yes, like I was saying, he came at a perfect time. We're breaking down Michigan. 00:05:10 Speaker 1: Oh god. 00:05:11 Speaker 2: So so when you win, when you win so much, the world gets used to you winning the regular season. People feel it all the time. My another Michigan Saturday mission is gonna win all Misian's away. They're gonna win with that. You stop, you stop knowing that feeling with losses, you stop understanding why you play the game. Because you win all the time. What makes the win so great anybody the losses, because when you know what it's like to lose, the winning, the feeling that Will Compton has right now, it wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for the last ten years of his life. If it has stopped over everybody every single day being Colorado fifty billion to zero, it'd be like, yep, another day at the office. But because Will's done the trials and tribulations, he understands these boy, you only get so many opportunities every fall, and you got to make the most of them. Now your team's sitting at two and zero and you guys are in the top twenty five. That's incredible. Now, Michigan, you feel good. Losing is the best teacher you can have. It's the best teacher because now when we get back to winning, it's gonna make it that much more of a better feeling. You're gonna walk in those saturdays because I guarantee you them boys when they when they won last couple of years, it's kind of like, yeah, we knew we were gonna win. Of course, we knew we're gonna win. Blake Korn, he's been eating corn his whole life. That those types of time, that kind of arrogance that. 00:06:33 Speaker 1: You get, that's a teacher. 00:06:34 Speaker 4: In his hype video for Michigan, that was a tough and said you couldn't motivate me to get out of bed bro. 00:06:39 Speaker 2: That was a tough one. I hope the boys pull it up a little bit because it was you have some fluctuation in your voice when you do it. 00:06:44 Speaker 1: Do I think Michigan's dead? No? Are we as good as we were last year? No? 00:06:47 Speaker 2: But guess what. That's what happens when you leave your loser head coach, your DC, your DB's coach, your wide receiver coach, your head strength coach, and eighteen players to the draft. You're gonna have a step take a little step back. Sharon Morris, he's the right guy to have in there. You're gonna keep that boat motoring. You got five new offense linemen. They're gonna continue to gel. They didn't have the best game, but I will say this, I thought protection was pretty good. And if Colston Loveland hit catches that ball in stride that Warren missed him on in the second quarter, might be talking about a whole different game. We might be talking about a long horn loss. That's what we might be talking about. Now He's going horseshoes and hand grenades right close. Doesn't cut it in the game of football. It doesn't fucking cut it. So we're just gonna keep on moving forward. We got our Kansas State coming up this week at home. 00:07:34 Speaker 1: Thank God, love you love you. Called it ar Kansas because that's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. Is it Kansas? 00:07:40 Speaker 2: Yes, at ar ar Kansas. 00:07:43 Speaker 1: Boom. 00:07:43 Speaker 2: They'll play them. They're twenty eight and a half point favorites. I don't know if we're covering that, but I know that Dub's coming. I don't know if we're gonna cover that. But the Bully's need to continue to gel. They need to continue to gel. Here's what I'll say about the trip. So we were just breaking down our trip. Yeah, right, we were able to We were able to we were able to fly private from from National But flex, it's necessary because it's it's it's only a flex if you're not don't have gratitude behind it. And it was an epic and epic twenty seven hours go from Nashville to an arbor and arboral Lincoln, next morning, Lincoln. 00:08:17 Speaker 1: To Nationally things. 00:08:18 Speaker 4: That's what I. 00:08:20 Speaker 1: Want to interjeg. But he's cooking right now. You're thinking let him him. 00:08:25 Speaker 4: Thinking to myself, like do I post about the private jet? And then and then quickly I was like, fuck, yes you do, Like we don't do this everywhere. When we're eating wings from mister Spots on the jet Lincoln, I. 00:08:36 Speaker 1: Had that thought process. 00:08:37 Speaker 4: We had ice cream waiting for emotional ice cream, emotional you really needed that. 00:08:42 Speaker 1: We were flying back. 00:08:42 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, the driver dis asked if we could pay about ice cream, caramel sprinkle. 00:08:48 Speaker 1: Getting right my. 00:08:50 Speaker 2: Feelings the entire because it is like people do get weird about the whole posting about a private jet. 00:08:57 Speaker 1: If you get on a private jet, it's an experience. It's an experience, and what we. 00:09:01 Speaker 2: On social media to not show experiences all of a sudden that's the line. 00:09:04 Speaker 4: You got of influences that would go and just rent a space that looked like a private jet, would flex about it. 00:09:09 Speaker 1: People were onto that, right, Oh that's the thing. I think you did it a couple of times. Yeah, really, feld Pops. Yeah, remember we used to we would do the PJ to the helicopter. Yes, sir, who's weird type? Ship bang bang? 00:09:26 Speaker 2: PJ to a helicopter is a weird transition. You're just helicopter to PJ. What were you doing? 00:09:30 Speaker 1: Went from the went from the big island to like the big island to the little islands. 00:09:34 Speaker 6: You get it. 00:09:34 Speaker 1: Dang dang dang, you know, and then the what. 00:09:39 Speaker 2: The islands are we talking about here? Billionaire's playground? 00:09:43 Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, I heard about. 00:09:46 Speaker 2: I had a weird thing about aviation. I know that little landing strip when you kind of go down it was dangerous. 00:09:51 Speaker 1: You're gonna go right, and then you just duck in. You're like, oh, okay, it's good going. It's worth it. Yeah, the yeah, it is worth it. 00:09:59 Speaker 2: You msters bots wings there, no, you need some chicken wings. Billionaire Chicken Wing's gotta be asked. 00:10:06 Speaker 1: There's no way billions. Everything's good, bro, dressed. That's cool, though, I'm happy you took your boys in the PJ Man. That experience had to be fucking nuts man, and at least we ended the day on a on a high, because, dude, if both teams would have lost, don't ever get out of PJ. 00:10:21 Speaker 2: No, no, back at the plane on the way home commercial commercial. We might even walk back. 00:10:27 Speaker 1: Well crazy man. 00:10:28 Speaker 4: How are you feeling about what you saw from Michigan? 00:10:30 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, popping down, hordle Man, Yeah, Pops is down, horrible, It's all bad. Oh is that the peak? 00:10:35 Speaker 6: Yeah? 00:10:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a big Michigan guy to coach man, coach oh. 00:10:42 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, get the like yeah yeah. 00:10:45 Speaker 4: How do you guys feel about watching the Michigan Wolverines and Cellular Because I feel you guys lost a lot on They Look Back Georgia. They had fifteen draft in twenty twenty two before they repeated in twenty three. So the it's like the fall from being on top of the world. It just feels like that's not an outfigure. Happy about putting alcohold up. 00:11:05 Speaker 1: To be autimistic on the podcast, you got to be real keeping. 00:11:08 Speaker 2: But before you keep it real, before you keep it real. Understand this Georgia Alabama. Those teams get five stars every single day. We are three. We get the three stars and the four stars and a sneak couple five from down south. And then we developed those cats. So the drop off. 00:11:25 Speaker 6: Here, and you know, we're used to seeing Corum and and and and. 00:11:30 Speaker 4: And JJ McCarthy, all of them. 00:11:33 Speaker 6: Man, you know, even on the defense sand we're still and all these guys make their place and then and then they're not there this year and the smallest and it's just we're not used to that. 00:11:42 Speaker 4: It's how are you feeling on Saturday? Because if you're holding a lot in right now, I gotta here, I gotta feel. This is a pod where you feel your emotion. 00:11:51 Speaker 6: Actually I actually actually kind of left for a while and walked around. 00:11:56 Speaker 1: Gets a little sad. You know, Well, we get beating up for bro. Look, you gotta you gotta live off that championship. They don't come around often. Come on, championship. We're still the fucking reigning defending champions. Eat a dick, bro, you know what I mean? Sorry, they were right and until until there's a new champion. 00:12:13 Speaker 4: It's it's us R who listened to the port Nor video and he's like, he's right, we are defending man. 00:12:20 Speaker 1: By the way, what are you how what's it? Are you and him? Like? You guys are cool? Right? Yeah? Yeah, we're talking about that ship too, man, Okay, I talked about it. 00:12:28 Speaker 4: Well. 00:12:29 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes I feel like he he loves you, but he hates you, that's sure. Yeah, it's like a weird thing. 00:12:35 Speaker 4: Yes, love language, loves to be mean. 00:12:37 Speaker 1: Okay, he loves to try to get under your skin. 00:12:39 Speaker 4: He likes to get you going, get you active. 00:12:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave openly gets on this guy, well does he gets on. 00:12:48 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, it's like the easiest card to pull when something happens, you just gotta eat. You're not gonna make every point. 00:12:56 Speaker 1: What a rock. 00:12:58 Speaker 2: What a rocky say? It's not about how hard you can hit. It's about hard you can get hit and keep moving. 00:13:03 Speaker 1: Forward to that. That's what it's like when you're for like cringey, like cringe, it's a cringey it's too early in the pod. By the way, you know what I love about this pod? When you move, I feel you move man. 00:13:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's just the vibration, passion, that passion. 00:13:17 Speaker 1: We're really in it. 00:13:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're actually about yeah, Like. 00:13:19 Speaker 1: If you get I'm gonna feel it, you know, right on cue come back. 00:13:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a tough game. It was a tough game on Saturday. It was a tough game Saturday at noon. Boys didn't look good. There's not there's not a whole lot of to hang our hat on as far as like we can get excited because of X, Y and Z. Kicker got a good kicker. We got a damn good kicker. Right, I don't think anybody in the nation's best with our kicker. 00:13:45 Speaker 1: But you gotta stop. Man, Now here's my here's my number. Lose half the games this year? 00:13:51 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 00:13:52 Speaker 1: I'm just being real. 00:13:53 Speaker 2: You can't go with this whole war then national champions until. 00:13:57 Speaker 1: A great year. But but if we're looking at this one, man, we we can't score points, can't score points. That quarterback is not ready yet, The offensive line is not ready yet. Yeah, they'll geil throughout the year. But we're gonna lose to Ohio State. We're gonna lose the m s U. We're gonna lose to Penn State, We're gonna lose to Oregon, Illinois. We might even lose Illinois. We're gonna lose is the most ridiculous thing I've ever back to this pot. Look, part of being fans, you gotta be real man, just expect expected to be bad. That was really bad. 00:14:26 Speaker 4: Every week. 00:14:27 Speaker 2: You got to go in thinking you're gonna win. As a fan. Here's the problem. Michigan fans are like you because when we we had to leave the game earlier, we knew that going into it. So in the third quarter we did leave, and as we're leaving, traffic'saficatly we. 00:14:39 Speaker 1: Had to make. 00:14:40 Speaker 2: We had to make that was already was already. 00:14:46 Speaker 1: Taylor. 00:14:46 Speaker 4: Taylor wanted to Taylor wanted to stay the entire time, and even leading up to say, hey, we gotta get time out to give Taylor. Give Taylor credit this the entire At first, like a couple of months ago, it was gonna be all Nebraska that day, like that was the game. We're gonna go to Nebraska. Then we were gonna go to the walls. It was just hanging in front of the Michigan USC. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna go to Michigan USC and split it up. But once we combined them, it was like, hey, the priority was always Nebraska on week two of Colorado. So when we snucked that in and figured out how to do it, he wanted to stay the whole game and I was like, Bro, we cannot. 00:15:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to be positive here today, Bro, Nebraska kind of looks they look good. It kind of looked good. They look good. 00:15:29 Speaker 4: And here's we interrupt this episode to bring you game Time. Football season is here and we can't wait to get out to some games this fall. With the help of game Time, the official ticketing partner of Barstool Sports. You know how much the boys love game Time. Now, with their brand new game Time Picks feature, they're making it even easier to get to a game. Game Time Picks filters at the fluff to show you only incredible deals on great seats, so you don't have to waste time searching through thousands of tickets. Your boys, we were looking at what upcoming games we got this weekend. 00:15:57 Speaker 2: This weekend we got and Titans home opener, and then also the week after that USC Michigan, which I might think, my. 00:16:05 Speaker 4: Daughter, No, US Michigan is gonna be a fucking awesome game. Just pull out your chosen event and turn on the gt pick setting at the top of the screen at the top of the screen, or browse the best local game time Picks deals near you on your game Time at home page. What are you waiting for? I'm gonna buy those home opener tickets to the Titans this weekend with game time Picks. Download the game time at today and used code busting to easily score great deals with the new game time Picks. 00:16:31 Speaker 1: What time is that time. 00:16:35 Speaker 4: A quarterback got? 00:16:36 Speaker 1: They got it all man, they got they got a good defense. You know you had them people fired up? 00:16:41 Speaker 4: Man, fired up, Bro, they were fired up. 00:16:43 Speaker 1: You saw a little bit. Oh my stands are going nuts. Brou I need to feel. 00:16:46 Speaker 4: You do the stadium, the go big Red I was truly like one of the greatest feelings in my life. 00:16:55 Speaker 1: Fu Yeah, because a Husker. 00:16:58 Speaker 4: Fans just laid on the line and like Taylor was saying earlier for the last decade, like this place wants something, a good product to root for it. And it seems like the culture that coach rules building and just the engagement that they had from the first quarter through the fourth quarter, Like the songs they're playing, the stuff they're putting up, like even the little Hamster in the fourth quarter to keep everybody in gaging the Hams. Everybody just dialed in. Like the optimism and the juice right now in the city is real. It's cusser fans all over the country, and you know that's what everybody's fired up about. Like, yes, we're two and oh we're all we got got our chest out, we're smiling, we're feeling good. But it's like more than that. It's like we've been down for a minute, and we know that we have a brand that you can root for and believe in if you just get the right guys, the right coach, the right players, and feel like that's building up. So there's a lot more pride outside of just being to no, it's just that you're feeling it all come together for real. 00:17:53 Speaker 2: There was a couple of passes in the game where Royola kind of missed the guy or the dude dropped it. Anything Rayla did. You could just hear it was me and Will kind of joking about it, but also everyone around like, man, he's just got it. One of his office he ran up and help was like see team guy as halftime, like guys are running in rails walking he looks at. 00:18:15 Speaker 1: He was saying, hey, stay here, okay here. As he's walking, it's just like kids walking up. Kids, a freshman walking with him and the coach. He wanted to go for it, and the coach is like, no, come on, go for it. Coach like get go over here, and then he has calm down, calm down. The kid wanted to go for it. Man, it was like I forgot how much they needed ready to go. 00:18:34 Speaker 2: He's he's getting dangerous towards like kind of creepy with his Patrick Mahome stuff. 00:18:40 Speaker 1: Though, ye yes, yes, but even the prea. 00:18:45 Speaker 2: Have you seen the clip of him, him and Mahomes right next to each other and Mahomes is doing his. 00:18:49 Speaker 1: He's right, he's right, and he does this. 00:18:51 Speaker 2: It's the same thing and it's the same dress. 00:18:53 Speaker 1: He's inspired, he's inspired, he's inspired. 00:18:55 Speaker 2: But if he does this, if he does this, he's gonna end up in a Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant situation where he can never be the goat now because he basically did the same things. What was this clip that's Patrick Mahomes are the same number, same number? 00:19:14 Speaker 4: That makes it now the kids, the kids man, no question, no question, You had your you had your poster and your Patrick. 00:19:20 Speaker 1: Mahomes is the grands quarterback in the league right now, right yeah, yeah, he's He's the baby goat right now at his stage of his career. Only one baby Tom. Yeah, well right now in the league, right. 00:19:30 Speaker 2: Now, this many years in the league and Tom, you compare those side by side. Pat is better, Oh he's right now. Super Bowls pe touchdown for so long, it's scary. 00:19:43 Speaker 1: It's scary. 00:19:44 Speaker 2: And you kind of got the Josh Allens and Lamar Jackson's the Joe Burrows. These guys are kind of like the Mannings in a way where it's like you gotta beat Pat or Tom Brady and you know they they're gonna get there. They I hope they. 00:19:57 Speaker 4: Do be the first team back up for a second because we glossed over it. 00:20:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go back to it. Use no fucking way. We're losing to Michigan State. You gotta stop with that talk. Is that what you're talking about? Glossing over? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. You cannot go and just start Pepper and we're gonna lose. I think you said Penn State. We don't even play Penn State. This year, like we just you just start glossing over. 00:20:18 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing. Listen. 00:20:22 Speaker 2: We've lost a lot of guys and there's a lot of development to happen, but Sharon Moore is the guy. 00:20:26 Speaker 1: What I don't like. 00:20:27 Speaker 2: Here's what I don't like. Wink came from the Giants. I played Wink multiple times when he was with the Giants and in other places, the exotic blitzes and all those things. It's great when you're playing a quarterback that can't dissect the defense the way that I keep sucking up his last time quinning yours the. 00:20:42 Speaker 1: Way he did. But if you if you throw those, you need to Sometimes you just need to go. Man. I mean, he's the best. 00:20:49 Speaker 2: He's impressive. It's an impressive cat. Look at this, that's you right now, that was me on Saturday. 00:20:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, you get in the sauna, you have a fucking iced tea in your back. But you got to remember, that's what it was. 00:21:00 Speaker 2: That's what it was, was past tense. Now we got to look towards the future. And I'm not listen, am I gonna sit here and say we're gonna for sure win the Natty? No, But we can sit there and say one lost, teams can still go to the playoffs, twelve team, one loss. But you're putting the car before the horse. You're just putting l's in our category. Right now, there's only one. Okay, right now, there's only one. And we got our Kansas State next week. 00:21:22 Speaker 1: Let's let's go. Then we got another muffin around the bus and let's just everybody say how many losses on the season, just for fun. No, that's not fun. Are you a Michigan? Are you a Michigan? Implement thoughts when you were a schedule? 00:21:33 Speaker 4: Publish schedule and it's. 00:21:34 Speaker 1: Just around the bus? 00:21:35 Speaker 4: Man? 00:21:36 Speaker 2: You know, you know how it is to take a video for a minute and half in flex that hard the whole time. 00:21:39 Speaker 1: You know how hard it is to do. 00:21:41 Speaker 2: Man, Thanks brother, I was. 00:21:42 Speaker 1: Doing the trap after that loss. 00:21:43 Speaker 2: You know right now my hair is my hair is telling you we lost. You see that? 00:21:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, the song and the t's got you back in the game, though, Yeah, you get your back. You keep sure and we can get the schedule, and I appreciate. 00:21:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not let's focus on not being nasty, all right, Let's focus on. 00:21:58 Speaker 4: It's not if we say a loss. That doesn't mean nasty no, no for a couple of weeks. 00:22:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just not. 00:22:05 Speaker 4: I would say, you guys, your assholes should be tight against USC Illinois Oregon. Dude, I'm bro, Illinois is is not Like maybe it's not a walk in the park. Yeah, Kansas is ranked and they have a good team. Bro, Like we have Illinois in two weeks, and that's not a game I am sleeping on. Bro. 00:22:23 Speaker 1: They gotta go out to to the to the Northwest. Man at Washington, it's not the same team. We're not either. Rights, that might be a hard game, Washington. 00:22:36 Speaker 4: First awaken. 00:22:37 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that we have a really hard schedule and to lose to Texas the way we did at home like that, I see five losses soon possible. 00:22:47 Speaker 4: That's not That's what I wanted to go back to, like defending national champions. The high that Michigan fans were on for the majority of that stadium to leave early in the act he happened. That was that was real. 00:23:01 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that you were waiting to talk. 00:23:04 Speaker 4: Of people leaving the same pace and as good as and you know, he's ruined my day a couple of times on college football twenty five. Mason Graham Graham, Mason Mason Graham, Mason Graham. Some of his body language, like as one of the best players on the team and a leader, some of his body language was not exciting. 00:23:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was tough contrast. That guy's an animal, though. 00:23:29 Speaker 4: You need your animals to be corraling cats, like you know, you remember the. 00:23:33 Speaker 1: Whole time that touch that offensive line. I mean you you, I mean you know. But they're so good. 00:23:38 Speaker 2: They got a kid, they got a kid that might be a first. 00:23:40 Speaker 4: It seemed like they were calling it in. Manah, it seemed like they were packing it in walking to the sideline. And that's just me being real about it, Like I I think that kid is a stud. 00:23:52 Speaker 2: I didn't like. I didn't like Mason Graham's energy. There was one where the second quarter, this was on the other side of the field, away from the stud in section, and the second quarter and they called the time out and they started walking over. Defense kind of jogs over and Mason was walking and that bothered me. 00:24:08 Speaker 4: Defensive huddle himself outside after halftime. 00:24:11 Speaker 2: I walked back, he's on the bike. 00:24:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, I walked past the Bible. You've been in those Huddles. 00:24:17 Speaker 2: He just you brought up a good, great point during the game, Indian Hutchinson would have been losing his fucking mind. 00:24:23 Speaker 1: And then the contrast last night, by the way, God, every play all over the place. 00:24:28 Speaker 2: Just hey, listen, we've sit on this pocket White guys are making a comeback. 00:24:31 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:24:32 Speaker 1: I love I love your tea, a white white. I love that. I were getting cooked, but it's but it's getting better. 00:24:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some good stuff to be Alex Angeloni. Yeah, he was catching everywhere. Yeah, he was everywhere, But I'm building that up there a lot of hair. It's pretty crazy. 00:24:50 Speaker 2: Now the contract contracts between Mason Graham and then number nine, which I don't remember his name from Nebraska. 00:24:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tie tie, mm hmmm. 00:25:00 Speaker 2: So this kid number nine for Nebraska, he was playing like a hell like they'll hold that he's he's like a nose three technique type of guy. But the kid was just playing with his hair on fire the entire day, high energy, keeping the guys around him. You and it was it was it's tough for me to admit, but you watched Michigan. The energy didn't seem there. And then the perfect contrast was an hour and a half later, I'm in Nebraska and I'm watching a Nebraska team that seems like they're playing for a national championship, and it's in like every snap matter to them, every single moment. And I didn't, I didn't necessarily feel that after the first couple of series. 00:25:32 Speaker 1: And let me ask you to a question. Because you guys play NFL. You play college high level, the highest level you can play. When your team changes a lot, you go from having a stacked team to then having like, you know, you got a lot of guys have left, it's gonna be really really different. You prepare for this game, but you know the team you're going against his damn good. Do you know you're gonna lose? 00:25:52 Speaker 2: I think it's different. 00:25:54 Speaker 1: Is there ever a game that you know you're gonna lose? 00:25:56 Speaker 4: No, not a game you go in thinking we're gonna lose this game. You go in knowing that you know this is going to be a tough, a tough team. 00:26:03 Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe after like the first quarter, do you start kind of like that the first for sure, those thoughts. 00:26:11 Speaker 4: That team knew that it was about to be a long day. 00:26:14 Speaker 1: That's what I'm I mean. 00:26:15 Speaker 4: Similar, Like even last year he was killing us against Nebraska. It's like that second boys quit. Once that tip pass happened, it's like, oh, here we go again. You kind of just get used it. But what's surprising is that you go from a national title team, like the culture there is still a culture like Sharon Moore, he was an internal upgrade or he was an internal higher, so the same cultures there. Like when you're a young guy seeing everybody else play well, like you can't wait for your opportunity the next year. Like yeah, you might feel like fans might feel like you're down in talent, but as an individual, you don't think like you're a laughs. And now you just think, oh now it's my time. Like that's how you train all off season. You're like, yo, this is my moment, right. 00:26:51 Speaker 2: I think when I think when you're in college, you drink the kool aid so much like when I was at Michigan, we're nine to thirteen. We we were not a bad team. We never won the games we shouldn't win, but we never lost the games we should love. 00:27:04 Speaker 1: Well, we yeah you know what I'm trying to say. 00:27:05 Speaker 2: I got so anyway, but you go to all these games, Yeah, you go to all these games and you're like, Yo, we're gonna we're gonna dominate ball ball. As you get in the NFL and you get older, and you start to see the talent level on teams, like you kind of realize like, Okay, we got to play really well to beat this team. 00:27:19 Speaker 4: The NFL might chalk up some back half. 00:27:22 Speaker 2: You might look at him and be like, all right this yeah, yeah. Week ten And I remember Week ten, like twenty nineteen. We were playing Kansas City at home, and I remember being like, no way, Like we got to play with our hair on fire, Like can't say was on such a such a role. They're up ten zero after the first quarter and we came back and won that game. And that's when we had a big run. But that was like one of the only few games I was like, man, I don't know about this one. 00:27:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you and four. 00:27:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, we started off tough and we were just you know, not really gelling as a team. Here's a bugs me about Michigan. The most they've got talent, they're lacking at a couple of very key areas right now. Right that very very curious. But they've got count Like when I when I. 00:28:04 Speaker 1: I also when I watched when I watch quarterback thing, man, I really think the two quarterbacks thing is just the stupidest thing. It's not. It doesn't work, man, When does it work? 00:28:17 Speaker 2: You know it does to a tongue of I loa. 00:28:21 Speaker 1: For like a play. 00:28:22 Speaker 2: I mean, no, he was Jayleen Jalen Hurts was in the bench him for two No, they benched him and they put him in doing the national championship and came back and won. 00:28:30 Speaker 1: No, that's not but that's not. That's not what I'm talking about. You're talking about balancing two playing two quarterbacks like on purpose throughout the game. Man, Orgie goes in and and they all know what we're doing, and then we do it every time. Yeah the fuck I know, I know what he's doing. Third and one. 00:28:47 Speaker 2: We had a third and one in the red zone and Orgy Orgy came in. They call a timeout, Orgy goes back out, he sends a guy in motion, direct snap and then runs forward for like a two year loss. In my mind, I was like, what the fuck are we do? That's when the angry fan of me came out and I was like, bro, can we not? Can we not not do that? But like it's tough man like this Davis Warren kid. You know he's gone. He's beat leukemia, he walked on, he went to starting job. He's got a hell of a story and he can throw the ball a little bit, but he just he's just missing guys. 00:29:17 Speaker 4: Right story is not enough. 00:29:20 Speaker 1: We heard about the story org. 00:29:22 Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't seen him throw enough to know whether he could throw it out. And there was a couple against Presno State where he rolls out, he has a guy open throws at his feet and it's just like it's just something. He's just not jelling right now. But there's talent on that team. And here's why, here's why this is this is gonna be Matt Rules's greatest season right now. Here's why because because next year they're gonna get five star recruits and they're gonna be guys that come in that are of the talent level similar to Riola, where they're gonna start to match receivers with him, match an offensive line with him. Defensive players, guys are gonna want to start going to Nebraska. This is gonna be the season we look at for Matt Rule where he goes Look what Matt Rule did with what he had, and that's not a shot at Nebraska. But what I saw against Colorado, what I saw against Colorado is a young quarterback who's going to be a lead, probably a first overall pick eventually, a running two running backs that are playing with their heron fire, and then the rest of the guys playing eleven dudes playing as a united front. 00:30:16 Speaker 4: And that's what that is. 00:30:17 Speaker 1: What's so cool about Matt rolls Nebraska, Bro, I'm sorry, what does that meaning? Nebraska? No, none of these none of these five star cats from down south, man, those fucking swamp beefy mother, they do not want to go play away from their mama and their papa and their family up in Nebraska. You wonder how I know I game with these guys. Okay, I break bread with these guys. Man. They tell me they don't want to go to Nebraska. They're gonna play LSU, They're gonna play Alabama, they're gonna play Georgia, they're gonna play in Florida, Michigan. Me, even that's hard to getting to go up there, man, it really is. It's tough. So tell me what it's way up here. They don't want to go play it there. It's cold. It sucks half the year, if not more. In Nebraska, there's nothing going. 00:31:01 Speaker 4: On but le Nebraska of this staff is going to bring balance back to us being a blue blood. 00:31:06 Speaker 1: You really believe that, Yes, Brook, I hope it for you. I wish I've seen the vision there for a weekend. You would fun because you're you, but like, but you would see you. 00:31:15 Speaker 4: Would also see the vision. I mean, we're still getting transfers, like we're getting cats there if you. 00:31:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was schmoozing one up over the weekend. 00:31:25 Speaker 4: Really yeah, five Star Lineman Jacket, the kid that was the boy Jackson and Dawson Marrit who's committed to Bama. Right now, I say, hey, brother, you look good in red. 00:31:36 Speaker 2: Crimson, Actually you look good in red. 00:31:39 Speaker 1: One of them is. 00:31:39 Speaker 4: Crimson grabbing the biceps. Yeah, yeah, you you you play at Bama Georgia like you're gonna go wherever you go and decide it's gonna be a great decision. But you go to Georgia, Bamon, these other schools, you'll be a cog. 00:31:50 Speaker 1: In the machine. 00:31:50 Speaker 4: You come and win here it's before and this class will look just too and oh right now, maybe got a trap game with Northern I coming up. You can hear the preview of that on the locker room on Thursday when we drop that. But it's just it's one game at a time. But this class, this team does have a chance to be remembered forever. For bringing it back to what Taylor talking about, where you start getting more guys in. 00:32:14 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, can I have a quick time out? 00:32:17 Speaker 2: Can we respect the time out? 00:32:18 Speaker 1: Now? Less? 00:32:18 Speaker 2: You and I just talk like Nick's not here? 00:32:20 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:32:21 Speaker 2: I don't like how this guy is coming in here and making us have to defend our schools. 00:32:25 Speaker 4: This is that's okay, this is this is this is the this is the box we should be able to. 00:32:31 Speaker 1: I thought we were just having a real cond What time out? 00:32:34 Speaker 2: What the time out? Okay, you're not here? 00:32:36 Speaker 4: Can I tell you something on your end? On Michigan's in. Yeah, he's been a fan of Michigan, I know. 00:32:42 Speaker 2: And he's being disrespectful. Yeah, like you've got like to be a fan is to have delusion. You have to have in a sense delusion. You know that better than anybody. 00:32:52 Speaker 4: But I know that we're building something right. People just had tote patience. 00:32:56 Speaker 2: And I can sit here and consciously say you have missions going missions obviously because we've lost all game has taken a step back this year than we have in years past. That's the reality. Other than that half the schedule, that's what I'm saying, That's what he's that's like crazy. 00:33:08 Speaker 4: Guys, and I hate I truly I want this to land as soft as possible. You guys might lose five games this year, and you've got. 00:33:14 Speaker 2: To be I'm not getting any time back in. 00:33:16 Speaker 1: You're back in, Nick, go ahead, I'm not prepared. Can you pulled up Michigan the back of the bus field, Jack waiting to go around? 00:33:24 Speaker 7: Man, Yeah, I just look at the Michigan schedule. Hold on, so you guys have ar State next week. I think you guys will probably pull that one out. Usc most likely. 00:33:37 Speaker 1: You are gonna get. 00:33:39 Speaker 4: Hang on that that that's that's. 00:33:43 Speaker 2: With all due respect, and then basically. 00:33:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, Minnesota, Minnesota. 00:33:49 Speaker 7: I think you guys have opportunity to win Washington. 00:33:52 Speaker 4: Opportunity. 00:33:53 Speaker 7: I don't think I think Washington because it's a West Coast game. Like Nick said, that'soulda be a tough travel schedule to be tough to win Michigan States. 00:34:03 Speaker 1: You went paston ill Yeah, we talked. 00:34:05 Speaker 7: I do think Illinois is going to be a tough program for you all to face. 00:34:08 Speaker 1: They're good. 00:34:09 Speaker 7: So do you think y'all are going to beat Indiana in Northwestern? Everything else is up in the air. Ohio state obviously, y'all the scariest game of y'all season, being the last and your biggest rival. But I think you'll have Northwestern Indiana and possibly Minnesota in the back. 00:34:29 Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of improvement. There's just so much work to be done. I'm I don't feel comfortable. 00:34:36 Speaker 2: Do you mind grabbing the mic? 00:34:38 Speaker 6: I don't feel comfortable over. 00:34:39 Speaker 4: Under seven and a half wins this year? 00:34:41 Speaker 1: Come on, Oh, man, just say it? Man, who cares what people think? Man? Just say? 00:34:46 Speaker 6: My heart is with Taylor though I want I want to be like me too. 00:34:49 Speaker 1: But but you just looking at the schedule. 00:34:52 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think five losses is real. 00:34:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's potential. 00:34:57 Speaker 1: They don't count a just pot don't don't don't catch like this. 00:35:01 Speaker 2: I see three potential losses on the schedule, which ones with the wind three? The three potential is oh yeah, we already have one s see organ and I know that. Listen, I'll be crazy. But I'm telling you, dude, I'm telling you when it comes to rivalry games, but you gotta throw you gotta throw records out the window. 00:35:22 Speaker 6: That's when I was there. 00:35:23 Speaker 2: When I was there twelve two twelve season or twenty thirteen season, they were better than us. We were a seven and five program and we went for two at the end of the game for the win and didn't get it. And they were they were top five team. I'm just saying we we can. You guys can say all the things you want now, extremely disrespectful that we're talking about Minnesota. That's crazy. 00:35:46 Speaker 4: They've had they've they've done solid. 00:35:48 Speaker 2: They they played North Carolina in Week one, missed a field goal and sent off their fireworks. Will you're not gonna tell me that programs got their ship together? 00:35:57 Speaker 4: Okay, by the way, you're just talking about it. 00:35:59 Speaker 1: By the way, that's a why game as well, that's. 00:36:01 Speaker 4: Why we go. 00:36:02 Speaker 2: That's for that's for the brown job, that's for the Brown So once again, okay, okay, So. 00:36:08 Speaker 4: I respect that, by the way, and also he says Minnesota throw records at. 00:36:12 Speaker 1: The window, especially the whole on organ. I respect that. 00:36:15 Speaker 2: You're gonna look me in the eyes and tell me Idaho State and Boise State are a couple of good ball programs because they because I'm pretty sure Boise of State was winning at one point against Oregon, and I'm pretty sure it went down to the wire with both those teams. So you're not gonna look me in the eyes and tell me all of a sudden that they're gonna walk home, Yeah home, Michigan State. Listen, Michigan State is utter dog ship. I know they're dogship, but again records dog ship, and we have the mental we have the mental fortitude on them because we've been dusting that ass. 00:36:49 Speaker 1: The last three years. What I see, guy, so he's feeling, he's feeling. 00:36:54 Speaker 2: And I like Jackie to get away from the microphone because we weren't gonna be nasty. Then all of a sudden we said dog wall and we said I hope you guys will pull. And I know it feels good because of how I act like I know it feels good. 00:37:07 Speaker 7: I'm not saying I enjoy seeing you like this at all, but I like seeing this. Is what true fandom is is dying every week because a team that you have no control over dictates your mental health. 00:37:19 Speaker 1: And that that is college football. That's fandom. It's not winning a national championship. 00:37:24 Speaker 2: Year one is a fan. 00:37:26 Speaker 7: This is truly how you become a Michigan fan. Obviously you have all of the the whatever you played there, but this is. 00:37:34 Speaker 2: What fandom is, backbone of the program. But yeah, but this is what fandom is. 00:37:38 Speaker 1: So you have to. 00:37:42 Speaker 2: I'll tell you of all the people in here, of all the people in here, Nick, I'm most disappointed. I know, I know because you should know better being a fan, you would have been one of the fans that left in the third quarter two for you Minnesota, Minnesota win, Kansas win. Let's just say you us see doesn't go away. We'll just we'll play to the masses here and say it doesn't go away. 00:38:04 Speaker 1: So you know what I think, because my. 00:38:05 Speaker 2: Math is, for whatever reason, getting really bad. 00:38:07 Speaker 1: So we're one and one, two and one. 00:38:10 Speaker 2: Now we're two and two Minnesota, Yeah, three and two, Washington four and two, Illinois five and two, Michigan State six and two, Oregon. I've already said my piece in Oregon. I'm gonna say seven and two, Indiana eight and two, Northwestern nine and two, and then I've already talked about Ohio State. Dude, you throw those records out out the window. And and USC played a LSU team. USC played an LSU team who historically loses their first game against big, big opponents historically. So I'm not taking USC off the board either. I'm we could win there, We could win out and it just depends on the boys jelling. They got a gel. But you can look at this schedule and be like, I listen, in Ohio State, we might have the same record because they're gonna lose in Nebraska and. 00:38:58 Speaker 1: They're gonna lose the Penn State. So we'll have a better record than them. They're gonna lose the Penn State. I love. 00:39:05 Speaker 2: See that's how you know Nebraska's made it. 00:39:08 Speaker 1: You just looked. 00:39:09 Speaker 2: You just looked over about and say that's gotta feel good. 00:39:13 Speaker 1: Penn States so highly rate. That's horrible. I mean that quarterback. I'm sorry, man, but he's just not him. 00:39:20 Speaker 2: Hey, let's let's say give me a positive take about something. 00:39:24 Speaker 1: Okay, I want a lot of sports bets. That's good lot, let's good NFL college, you name. 00:39:31 Speaker 2: It, I can was your best win? 00:39:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, what were you most I put. 00:39:34 Speaker 1: I put like eight grand on the Cowboys that wins money against the spread. Yeah, oh you took him with the points? Are you bet I gave away points? I gave away points. It seems like you beat the ship out of the Browns and we made so much money off that. Meet me, Tim, everybody man, we all bet him. 00:39:53 Speaker 2: I didn't get to say. 00:39:53 Speaker 1: It's just like DeShawn done this pent He seems like he's like there's some kinks in his game and he needs to get that uh. 00:40:03 Speaker 2: Kings off the field. 00:40:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's get back on the table right. 00:40:08 Speaker 1: Here's what I saw. 00:40:10 Speaker 2: What I heard is Bill O'Brien was running Clemson's offense at Houston because he couldn't conform to any other NFL offense, And now the Browns are trying to get him to go and run that offense, and he's just he just can't do it. That's why you see Joe Flacco come in and do what he did last year. 00:40:25 Speaker 1: I don't see the Browns, man, I still see it. 00:40:28 Speaker 2: The Browns are in a tough spot and they give so much money. 00:40:30 Speaker 4: He's still like the number two. 00:40:33 Speaker 2: Do you see part of my takes take on it? It is really good Big Colt and p f T were saying that, I think we're at the point where we can say that Deshaun Watson as good of a player he is on the field, he's been better off the field. 00:40:48 Speaker 4: He's a better. 00:40:51 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Well they kicked and they sent him down to Tampa, right, yeah, Baker, Now he's bawling. 00:40:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're a Bucks fan. 00:41:00 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, he's Brola. He plays with with with such attitude. Man, it's hard not to love, you know. He just that he just wants to play football. 00:41:08 Speaker 4: Man. 00:41:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not gonna be as accurate as maybe like bro that boy Dak Prescott. Man, he can put the ball anywhere. He's a psycho. No, I think he's overrated. 00:41:19 Speaker 4: But but during I think I think I think people don't give him a. 00:41:24 Speaker 1: Weird playoffs, like the team always falls so short. But the regular logo is unbelievable, the. 00:41:30 Speaker 2: Logo on the logo on his helmet. Dude, you're behind the eight ball every single time if you don't play perfect. 00:41:35 Speaker 1: Well, you know, he's not as accurate as a guy like Dak, but he plays football tough and I think that the team that he's on, they enjoy that. I love Mike Evans. He scored two touchdowns the other day. That's my guy. You know. Uh, I think they got a lot going on down there, a lot of good things. But Dallas, if they can just win a game in the fucking playoffs, man, this could be a scary team. I just don't know if they're gonna be able to do it. Man, that's just that he just never That's a conversation after they. 00:42:02 Speaker 2: Home in the Come on, but green Bay, Green Bay was doing that. Gentlemen, were up this episode to bring you body armor. This episode is brought to you by a body armour. Sport Water, the alkaline water that provides real hydration with electrolytes for taste. 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But we just played and we were talking the whole time, just like this, he's actually not bad and he's like this suit. He's got a kind of a calm demeanor, you know what I mean. And we were just kind of gaming and chatting. We played like eight hours. We were scheduled for two. It was really strange. 00:43:16 Speaker 4: Who's an NFL guy who you respect their game the most? 00:43:19 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, He's better than me a lot of those games. Man, No ship, I'm kidding, because I mean I took a big step back. I stopped playing so much. And this this guy when he's home, he's playing and he's cracked and he's unbelievable. Man, he really is. He's unreal. He's very very good. Atter than Fortnight, he's better than me. I now, Actually, Mike Evans is better than you at Fortnite. He can build and edit like a keyboard guy. I can't. I can shoot, but you know that game now you gotta build and edit the builds and stuff. He can do it all. And it wasn't always that way. When we first started playing, he was a bot and he was really mad about it. I could tell it. We were together, No, he was just horrible. He went to terms together and uh, we just super well. But he would get irritated that he couldn't keep up in these big tournaments. And I kept talking to Mike have the lobby or pro gamers like it'd be like me going on the on the field with YouTube and getting mad that I can't keep up. I'm not gonna, you know. But he had just look in his eye, man, like that competitor ship. And he would go home and practice on the low and eventually got to a point where he's he's no joke, now, man, that's crazy. 00:44:22 Speaker 4: I love that. 00:44:22 Speaker 2: I love It's I've never played a game of Fortnite in my life. 00:44:25 Speaker 6: I don't think. 00:44:26 Speaker 1: I don't. I was I was more pub g Are you not a gamer? I love? 00:44:32 Speaker 2: Like yeah, RPG that no shooters, No, dude, I played a little bit of that call of duty with the zombies. Yeah, I had a good time. 00:44:41 Speaker 1: I thought that was really fun. By the way, he just said that that he doesn't played the ship. 00:44:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no duty like my dad Nintennessee's four Super Smash Brothers. 00:44:53 Speaker 1: I was filthy with that fire fire filthy. 00:44:56 Speaker 4: You were best in the locker room with Super Smash Bros. 00:44:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I control, I control. You guys have little lands in there ship. 00:45:02 Speaker 4: When I got to Tennessee, like it seemed like they had a little thing going. Maybe it was mostly old linemen. 00:45:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, we would play after every practice and stuff like that. I brought it in. The thing that sucks is I broke this thumb and it doesn't really I can't know left. So my my moving left is my game has gone down a little turn left now. I stayed turned left. I'm posentually Zoolander. But we got the boys in here. We we hooked it up one day and they did stop wanting to play with me for like twenty minutes. 00:45:25 Speaker 1: But I was putting that much work. 00:45:27 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, No. My freshman year at Michigan, one of my hallmates at West Quad, he was like all about Super Smash and I would go in his room all the time. We would just play for hours. Yeah, and he like kind of put me on game of how to play well and eventually ended up. 00:45:40 Speaker 1: It's crazy, like you know when your brain gets that into a game time just the time, just you blanket. It's been like eight hours, no doubt it. Man, I'm so. I'm so. 00:45:47 Speaker 2: That's how it was for like Red Day Redemption for me. Yeah, because I did that after my second ACL surgery. I played that game and beat it in seven days. 00:45:54 Speaker 1: They say that's one of the greatest games of all time, But I've never played. You've never played? H you want to cry? Yeah, that's why I heard like a moving type thing man, Like it's like it hurts. 00:46:05 Speaker 4: What's this? What's the newer game that you've been streaming a lot? 00:46:07 Speaker 1: Elden Ring? Yeah, elden Ring? Is that like an RP same thing, same thing as that, same thing as Kiram too. Yeah, okay, called RGE. 00:46:15 Speaker 4: Need to stream red there. 00:46:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, people were telling me to do that, man, I just I don't know, man, it's haven't been gaming as much lately, Rob and just enjoying time being a father and just chilling. You know. I've been streaming for like twenty years straight, NonStop just games, games, games. So how we gonna take a fat break? 00:46:27 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:46:27 Speaker 1: Absolutely, how's that shifted for you? Like since becoming a dead It's awesome. It's just I mean, I you know, I work from home, so that's super cool. I'm there all the time, you know, and I mean, he's he's the best man. It's so fun to I mean, but you guys know it like not everything changes, but the way you look at everything changes. And it's just been a lot of fun. Uh, this this period of my life, you know. 00:46:47 Speaker 4: Was it hard? Was it was it hard transitioning away from gaming? And no, hell no, Like with the wife for you guys, ever, kind of like, hey, the schedule, I need you to shift it around a little bit. 00:46:58 Speaker 7: No. 00:46:58 Speaker 1: She she's the gold man. She she she just handles it all. If she needs help, she'll you know, have a conversation or whatever. You know. But at first I was streaming a lot, you know, when we had just had him, so there were times where she needed me. I took a little bit of time off, you know. But dude, she's a tank man. She just takes care of I have a great one, you know, that's awesome. Yeah, he had a good team. Twenty years, bro, twenty years. 00:47:21 Speaker 4: How long have you been streaming at at like a high? You kind of exploded with Fortnite. 00:47:25 Speaker 1: Twelve Yeah, twelve years now, what so twenty years I was. I was big before that too, man. I mean, you know, I was one of the first partner streamers on justin TV, which is now twitch TV. So way back when when streaming was really really difficult to break into. I had a buddy who was who was a nerd, who knew all about it, and I mean I didn't, So he came out, he set me all up and there was really only maybe like ten or twenty people streaming then, you know, and you couldn't make any any cash off it. It was just kind of for fun and I'm playing and there's a chat, and it's all it's this new experience, you know, I'm having fun with it, and then it just kind of evolved into everything that is today. But dude, I've been I've been gaming since I was like a kid, I mean competitively gaming. I was like ten or eleven. I remember begging him to take me to a small tournament like an hour away from my home and he wouldn't do it. And I told him, I like, oh, look at, I promise you that there's like four hun cash prize. I'll win that thing. And he wouldn't do it. And then finally he cracked and he took me to one and I won, and I had like four or five hundred cash. I'm like see, and he couldn't fucking believe it. He drove me to a Bank of America and we made a bank account. I was like twelve years old and he had to be there because I can't make an account. Yeah, and then he so he's trying to. He was super We we had a lot going on, uh, just because you know, he coached college ball and you know that environment man, like you know, and my family. I mean, I know, you know Alex Brad, those guys that they playing in the end, I got cousins in the NFL, cousins to play high level college. My little brother is an athlete. He was an athlete he coached. So for me to not go down that route and start doing this gaming shit, he was having a breakdown, man. You know, he had no idea how to fucking handle it, you know, but we I promise him I mean, look, I'm the best of this Gears of War Halo shit, So just take me these tournaments and I'll just cash out. He goes, all right. So we start going all these tourneys and I'm just four hundred eight hundreds, five hundred four hundred, just cash, cash, cash, fucking twenty grand. I'm fourteen with twenty K in my bank account. I couldn't imagine, could not imagine that fourteen. I'm like, yo, I just want to go buy shit, you know, but he won't let me, you know what I mean. But we got twenty K in there, and that's when I started getting crazier and crazier. Man, there was like one hundred k, and then one hundred and fifty k. By the town, I was eighteen, one hundred fifty grand bank count eighteen from gaming, and I'm like, what the fuck do I do with this? I'm sitting down with the tax lady with the you know, it's nuts, man, I'm doing it my whole life before you in twenty twelve, how was I with twenty? 00:49:53 Speaker 4: Fuck? 00:49:53 Speaker 1: Man? Twenty maybe? 00:49:54 Speaker 4: Okay, right, I think it's perfect that Dad is on the bus because him being from the football mold it's like it's even still happening, like your kids, like your kid wants to be a streamer or a gamer. The parents at the time, like even myself, it's like yeo, these dudes who are trying to make money streaming, Like is there anything in it? Like would you guys go toes about him him spending way too much time on the game, Like I would love to hear dad so much. 00:50:17 Speaker 2: There's no doubt, There's no doubt here was a guy knocking the door, like bro, even coaches like, hey, stop playing fucking video games, you play. 00:50:24 Speaker 1: Telling them by When my high school coach came to well, no, I mean the breaking point for me was we were in Dallas for MLG, remember yeah, and you guys won that tournament, and I'm standing there looking at you holding the cardboard check that says forty grand on it, and I'm going, damn, HM, maybe I better get fully behind this, you know. 00:50:43 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean no, there. We went at it many times. To answer your question, I mean, she's fighting breaking xboxes. I work for him now, but I talked to his high school football coach said, please, man, you gotta talk to him. You just come to the house, you know, he doesn't listen to me, and he's knocked on the door and strolls up there from his gaming console, you know, and the guy's trying to talk him into coming to practice, and that's like, yeah, you know, maybe I will, maybe I won't. 00:51:13 Speaker 4: You're pissed, so, bro, you put your future into gaming, like there's no future in that, I'm sure you're feeling at the time. 00:51:24 Speaker 6: Of course, exactly, course, because there was nobody to emulate, nobody to follow it. 00:51:28 Speaker 1: I mean we basically, like we literally didn't talk for a couple of years after that point. No, that's how mad he got, Like, yeah, bro, we would go at, it would yell, and then you know, your dad's getting disciplined, you you know, kick kick my ass, you know. And then but he, like from my POV, he just didn't understand that this is what I love to do at the end of the day in life, you know, I think it's really important to just be passionate and follow your heart. If you love something, get after it. And this is what I love to do. But I'm skipping my high school practices. I'm skipping school. My grades are falling behind. 00:51:59 Speaker 4: You skip school. 00:52:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was up to like three four in the morning every night playing and I was getting really good, and we were winning online tournaments too. That's when they were pushing out those game battles online tourneys. So now I'm cash now on these like two b two little side gigs. I'm making like three hundred bucks in my room. The fuck I'm gonna go to algebra before bro, you know, I don't care. And then I would go to school and I'd be so tired that can't even perform here anyways. Man, So I'm sleeping. My teachers are kicking me out. It's this whole thing. So they're thinking about kicking me out to like army camp like for kids, and shit, yeah. 00:52:30 Speaker 4: You got a son that's not going to doing all the things that you should be doing. 00:52:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, I look back at it all. I don't follow him at all. I mean, I don't have any any weird shit in my heart. He was confused and he and he and he should have been and he was just trying to steer his son in the right direction. And I mean, me being the dickhead and I am, you just can't tell me what to do, man, So I just kept and eventually, you know it popped off for me. But the truth is is, back then, I was throwing my life away, you know what I mean, just because I love to do something that wasn't popular, right, and it just so happened, and the whole thing blew the funk up. Because it blew up, I was right in the front, man, I was already one of the bigger guys. So my ship overnight went from fucking you know, Okay, I'm making like one hundred k year. Now I'm making like mill Now I me and him got Now we got to try to understand all this, you know. And I mean it's great. I love that, you know what I mean. But it's a pretty it's a pretty crazy childhood in our family dynamic. It was. It was tough to grow up that way, you know, because because you're. 00:53:27 Speaker 4: It sounds like you got his dad. 00:53:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, his fucking dad hated me for a long time. Man, he did, Yeah he did. He can stand me. 00:53:33 Speaker 2: But your dad sounds like every single dad I was would have been the exact. 00:53:39 Speaker 4: Family. 00:53:40 Speaker 1: If I skip if I skipped football, oh yeah, my little brother was the two times hate champion because I did that ship. But I started skipping those practices as well he's so angry. But yeah, I mean, you know, look, I just loved it. I fucking loved it. Like when you like someone when you're coming off the head and bang it did you just get that feeling? You know? I I felt that too when I played football, when I played bad, I played all kinds of sports, and I was good at him too. I mean, I was all right. I wasn't as good as you guys, but I was. I was decent and I had fun. But when I'm playing gaming, I clutch up and the crowd goes nuts. I mean there was times a beund Land where I make a big play in the fucking ground shaken and this ship falling from the healing and stuff. I mean, I got clips of eight and I popping off and we're winning like fifty grand just by getting these kills, and I'm killing them and the crowd's going fucking crazy cardboard checks. I mean, that's what I live for, man, you know, so I just it took a while to get there. 00:54:31 Speaker 2: What so you guys, you said you two didn't talk for a couple of years, Well, and Nevily brought you to back together. 00:54:37 Speaker 1: Is it like I don't I don't remember. I just remember him, and I really not see an eyed eye obviously, and I think that, you know, I love my dad like my dad, you know, to me, this is my person, man, this is my guy. You know, I got my but this guy that I wanted to I want to be like if I can be half the father he is some day great. 00:54:55 Speaker 6: Not to be too emotional, keep going, keep going. 00:54:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, you seem to have to break up. 00:55:02 Speaker 1: So I'm getting to know I fucking let you know. So I really wanted to get that relationship back, and he did too. Man, I'm his first son. You know, we we got, you know, a lot going on. There was a lot. It was a tough situation, and we both are smart enough to know that that's not his fall or my fall. It's just wow, this is a really interesting like position that we're both in and we can't go anywhere for help because I don't have anybody to show him, like, hey, dad, here's this gamer that I can bek and he doesn't. He doesn't have a parent to go to, like, hey, here's this kid that skips everything important in his life is doing is doing this. Yeah, so we're in this weird place but ultimately, you know, we just said, Okay, enough's enough, man. You know, let's just be let's just be dudes about it, you know what I mean, Let's let's just and it. 00:55:41 Speaker 6: We just I think right about then was seal training. 00:55:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, then it was weird man training. I coached him. Okay, so to go to Buds to try to be a Seal, you have to get a Buds like contract. You can't just go. So you got to do a push up test, a pull up test, and sit tests, two mile run like a swim, all back to back to back to back to back, and then you get a certain score and they only really draft the top scores, you know, every what two months or three months, I can't really remember. So we trained for like two years, and at this point in you're training, you wanted to be a Seal. I stayed This is gonna be a really quick story, but I'm sure you guys can relate. I stayed up too late one fucking night and I clicked on too many bad links and I saw stuff that was happening out there, and I went to him. I tried to talk to him about it, and he goes, Nick, I know, man, it's it's a crazy world sometimes we're living in and it ate me alive. Man, Like, for weeks, I couldn't get that night out of my head, just seeing that some of the stuff that goes on, and I wanted to do something about it. And it was that night, and then I started to hook up, like who actually goes and deals with some of these people and all the all the Google searches just can't see. You'll see, you'll see, you'll see. I'm like, yes, I went to a fucking recruiting office and I sat down with the guy. I told him I wanted to be a Seaily told me how, and then we had to train for a couple of years to get that bid, and we got it. And then I went into uh, you know, I went into boot camp in like an eight hundred division. It's like a sped up boot camp, a little bit harder. It was pretty easy, though, you know, people don't quit there. And then you go to pre buds, which is like a two or three month and you know what, it was like kind of like a college football camp, like you're just lifting weights, you're doing track sessions, all your trainers are collegiate trainers. It was super cool David Goggins, he actually came. He actually came back to our class, and I remember him screaming in all of us before we went on like some twenty mile fucking thing in the snow, and he said, if you if you don't hang with him, then you're cut. I didn't hang with him, and I didn't get cut. But yeah, it's hard. 00:57:45 Speaker 6: He's kind of hard to keep up with. 00:57:46 Speaker 1: But yeah, then I went out to Buds and I lasted about two weeks, and I had I had a lot of trouble with everything underwater, and they give you demerit chits. A chit is like a like a blemish kind of on your contract. So if you if you're not performing in certain areas and you're holding the group back, you get a chit, and if you get hurt amount of them, you got to go in front of the board and like address that. And I was getting all these chits for underwater stuff, and finally the chief to say, hey, listen, man, like you know, if you're struggling with underwater shit and you want to be a seal, that's a problem. Yeah, So he told me to meet him, you know, super early at the pool, just him and I and he's gonna give me another chance to pass this underwater stuff. I couldn't do it, So he kicked me out. 00:58:26 Speaker 2: What was the underwater stuff? 00:58:27 Speaker 1: Like? 00:58:27 Speaker 2: What what was the underwater things that were so difficult? 00:58:30 Speaker 1: They see you see? Yeah, they tie they tie your feet together, tie your hands behind your back, and that's fine. You got you gotta like bob up and down the bottom of a twelve foot pool. Then you got to do a fifty yard swim. And I was having a lot of trouble with that. I couldn't go the whole way because the way they make you do it is you got to dive off into the deep end like pencil dive. When your feet hit the bottom, you gotta do a front flip, no push off and go and you got to go all the way without popping up. And I could not fucking do that. I even passed out twice. That's weird, super weird. 00:59:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you you pass out underwater and you're woking up on the side of the fucking pool deck. 00:59:08 Speaker 4: They just mouth and mount to fuck up, no shake to fuck up. 00:59:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the cat's died during this stuff, right, No, not during that part. 00:59:19 Speaker 1: People people have people have died in buds, but I think they died from from different parts of me. Like you know, hell, week is crazy. I never even got to that point. That's like week four, I think, or week five maybe. 00:59:31 Speaker 2: What week were you like, all right, this is it. 00:59:34 Speaker 1: The moment it began, I was like, holy shit. Really, you start at three am. You go to the blacktop, and I mean they're getting you up with LMG with blank rounds because the inside of a like a like a dorm room thing. We're all running outside with our boots, our belts hanging. We get down to that blacktop and there's just this fucking jacked instructor up on the podium. Easy, all right, we're gonna take it to a fucking workout. If anybody anybody struggling, you fucking butcher helmet over there, you ring the bell, get the fuck out, and I'm like, holy shit, and we and then we fucking begin. I mean, you're getting your dick kicked in for two hours, and you know, periodically every ten to twenty minutes, they're sending you over the sand dune, down the sand dune to the ocean, and you gotta get wet, and then you get sand all over you. If you come back with any spot that doesn't have sand, you gotta go again. And it's just this. The sand sticks to you, your skin chafs, and it's just this experience that's meant to weigh on you. It's just over time, man, it just gets harder and hard and then you see people quitting. And that's a shitty part too. I remember that. I remember like being up. You be up at three four am, and that Pacific Ocean is fucking freezing, man, and we're sitting in there and you know, there they got us all in the ocean. We're freezing our fucking asses off. And we're seeing people quit. They're standing up and just being there, going to a van and they wrap them in a blanket and they give them a hot coffee. It's okay, buddy, it's okay, little buddy. You know you're like that coffee would small. 01:00:57 Speaker 4: I was saying, You're like, man, this could be so easy. 01:01:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, just go get this blanket. I'm gonna say something like, no, cap bro. I used to piss on myself to stay warm, like during those times, I literally just start peeing for a second, I feel warm, like okay, the fuck man, Yeah, that that that two weeks was probably the hardest two weeks in my entire life. But I learned a lot about myself. You know, I got some friends that made it all the way through. I don't regret any of it, you know. Yeah. 01:01:24 Speaker 2: And the thing too, is like you stay up, you watch all these links that make you want to do this, and you're like, I want to make a difference. Yeah, going through those couple of weeks, whether it work it didn't. Obviously didn't work out, but the guys that didn't work out for you guys feel pretty good about our country. Yeah, Like you know, those dogs are out there. 01:01:37 Speaker 1: Seals to the ship they go through, and that's just the beginning. You know, you have to get through buds, which I mean, I'm I tapped in two weeks. These guys are going through eight months of training, then s QT Seal Qualification training where they put it all together up there in Alaska for another eight months, and then you go pick your job, like your specific job sniper, uh this or that, and then and then you go to school for that. For the bro you are just you're just dial man. It's the machine. 01:02:04 Speaker 4: And when you got cut, are you bummed? Are you kind of relieved. 01:02:08 Speaker 1: I remember calling him the only place you can get service from is the top of the fucking building. I call, Oh my god, one of the worst phone calls in my life. Man, I called it. I couldn't eve get the words out right. 01:02:19 Speaker 6: That sucked works so hard. 01:02:21 Speaker 1: Man. We did, we did. I just should have done more. I should have done more preparation on the underwater stuff. And I really fell short there, you know, And it was just it was an area. And the thing about going through seal training like that is those instructors, the entire program is designed where they they're doing all that on purpose, so as soon as they see the crack in the armor, they just attack it. So so they had my ass in the pool extra like just screwing with me, you know what I mean, because they knew that they're trying to break you. That's that's what they're doing, and they did. But it makes you better. 01:02:51 Speaker 7: Man. 01:02:52 Speaker 1: Look, look, I mean I firmly believe that everybody should should go through some of those things, and then you appreciate little things a lot more. Man. I mean, you know, I'm super small, like having your phone, I mean, fuck, you know right, you never know it, But it's crazy. 01:03:04 Speaker 2: My senior year we went to like San Diego and we did like we went with the Navy Seals and did like three four hours with them. Yeah, do that, And I was like at the end of the three four hours, I was so I was done. There's no way I was gonna do anything doing. We were carrying the boat, we were doing over we were going over that same hill into the water, rolling around the sand. They had that little obstacle course making guys doing that. It was it was nuts. Now Michigan, Michigan does like Team one thirty one. We were Team one thirty four. Yeah, because we did the Navy Seal thing and they jumped off and we started doing that. It's like all the seniors as. 01:03:38 Speaker 1: My helmet as the boat. 01:03:40 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's a dog. 01:03:44 Speaker 1: That's me and pre Buzz and my buddy Gardener that's you. No, that's I'm filling them asking what he's doing. He had to clean all this ship off your belt and there's even like a spec on it in an old class that's push up and they do that on purpose. 01:03:57 Speaker 4: You know. 01:03:57 Speaker 1: It's like pee wee football, Like you know when that kid that the coach didn't on the team, and he's on the team, and it sucks because his mom is he's forcing him to do it. He doesn't want to be there. He's got to play like eight plays or eight plays. He gets killed every fucking time, and they just get they get ten yards. So everybody's just mad about this one fucking kid right right well, in practice, that same kid because he just doesn't want to be there. Now, we all got to run around that tree it's two miles away because this kid can't keep up. They are the best at that yo. 01:04:23 Speaker 4: If we would have loafs at Nebraska my senior year, like say I had three loafs, I would have to sit on the chair while the rest of the linebacker room would have to run three guests exactly though a loaf is ultimately like not finishing to the ball, like if you're not the way that they would do it is if you're not on the screen at the end of the play, or if you get out ran by you know, if you're a dB and you get out ran by a linebacker to the ball, or if you're a linebacker you get out ran by a D lineman, or you change your you change your tempo at all, like you start to slow down because you think it might be an incomplete best officer they catch, and then you start sprinting. That would be considered a loaf. So if you you get loafs, if it got bad enough, they would make the person sit on the chair while the rest of the linebacker room would run terrible feelings. 01:05:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you you right that feeling s's in Now everyone knows is your fault and you because everybody's getting. 01:05:14 Speaker 2: Better for it's you when you're not getting punished everybody else's is the worst way to get punished in cold. 01:05:19 Speaker 1: Absolutely, bro bought in. Bought in. 01:05:22 Speaker 4: It's this group called the Program where they're either former seals or form or something in the military, and they would come in and we just basically had forty eight hours of this training to where you'd be there to like pass midnight and then have to wake up before thirty in the morning. And then you're in the pool like at the Nebraska in the Nebraska swimming area, we'd have full sweats on having the tread water, and then your teammates, like guys who couldn't swim like they would have to trust the guy next to them that we would hold them, and you would have to like take off your hoodie and the other person would have to put it on. You're like treading water having to put all this stuff on it water was fucking nuts. Carrying logs like all the detail. Like somebody left a cup in the team meeting room. They brought us all down, they made us warm up, and then the guys motherfucked us for leaving a cup out that whole team would have they would have to run up to You'd have to run up to the team meeting room as a group and then run back once it was all cleared, and they would give you like an assignment, Like say I was the guy from my group. They would tell me all the instructions and then I would have to be the one to explained it to the team. Nobody says anything like even if you get an instruction wrong. You go throughout the entire process like compete, do all this stuff, and if you got something wrong, then they tell you after the fact and then you got to basically redo it. Fucking nuts, bro. 01:06:31 Speaker 1: A lot of super common things across the board. You know, Dad's the best part of being on a team, you know, I. 01:06:37 Speaker 4: Mean, yeah, Dad, for you when you got the phone call when he got cut. Are you disappointed? Are you thinking he wasn't put in the effort? 01:06:43 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, no, I wanted you to accomplish your goal. But it wasn't disappointed. Listen, it's like the UFC and tapping or not tapping. You didn't tap. You gave it everything you had and you passed out onto the pool twice. I mean you didn't come up and breathe. I no regrets, super proud of the effort. 01:07:00 Speaker 1: Looks. Yeah, he's the most supportive father in the world, bro, But he's he's chilled out quite a bit over the years, man, that's for sure. And answer. It would be a lot different twenty years ago, No question. 01:07:09 Speaker 4: My old man as well. 01:07:10 Speaker 1: I mean he was pretty It's crazy. And yeah, like now they're the best and when you would go to father, now you're so od. 01:07:16 Speaker 2: When we were kids, man, I think there's like a there's a something as a father coaching his son as he's getting older. You want him to be good so bad that it's like you're like, it's like squeezing the baby too tight. You're like, man, I just want this kid to be the best version himself. And I know he's fucking things up. And then immediately when you become an adult, it's like, all right, man, like I did the best I could. I can no longer tell you what. 01:07:37 Speaker 4: To do if you're on like a good track. 01:07:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're on a good track. 01:07:40 Speaker 2: But then as soon as like the good track and like either you're of an age where you're essentially responsible, responsible for yourself, then as a father you could sit back and be like, hey, this is the product that helped make like it's up to them. 01:07:49 Speaker 1: That's got to be a great feeling. Yeah, to have a son that's doing well. Yeah, I mean because my. 01:07:53 Speaker 4: Dad was pissed when I didn't want to like wrestle. I quit after like six grades. 01:07:57 Speaker 1: That's right. He wrestled that. 01:07:58 Speaker 6: Yeah. 01:07:59 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:07:59 Speaker 4: My brother was a stud senior national champion, went to Nebraska on scholarship, but he was a stud. So we had like a wrestling family or brother, younger brother. I'm the oldest, so my younger brother, he was a you know when it was it wasn't football season, Cody was ultimately like the favorite because wrestling is like all year round, like you know, Cliff Keen kickoff, like the Triple Crown going around when you're young. Cody was a monster, and my junior year I said that I would either I said one like that I would play baseball because my mom was pissed that I wouldn't play like sports all year round because after football season, I would love to, you know, whether it just hang with the boys, video game stuff like that. And then when I didn't play baseball, my parents basically said I either wrestled. My junior year, my dad was like, you're either wrestling or you're grounded for the entire winner. So ultimately I wrestled at two fifteen, at like two hundred pounds and just you know, gritted it out. I hated every second of them, but my dad always wanted me to wrestle because he's like, you know, it'll be better, it'll it'll translate to football, which he's right, it does. My pro agility went down like you live it. You live it like you live this tall for three months out of the year, just being in that fucking stance, and I would get my ass whoop by this dude named Jason Went who was a scholarship cat to Cornell, and like it was, you know, I hated it, but my dad was always pissed. I didn't want to wrestle every year because Cody was really good. 01:09:13 Speaker 1: Did your dad do it? 01:09:14 Speaker 4: No, my dad didn't. He wish he had. He was like, I mean, I wish they had wrestling. 01:09:18 Speaker 1: You wish you were done? 01:09:19 Speaker 6: I would, yeah, but I was too. 01:09:21 Speaker 1: He was a great basketball playing basketball. 01:09:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad was like, I wish they had wrestling back when you know, he was young. 01:09:26 Speaker 6: They didn't even have it. 01:09:27 Speaker 1: Did you have it high school? 01:09:28 Speaker 6: Of course you didn't. 01:09:29 Speaker 1: Think. 01:09:29 Speaker 6: I think I think as a father, all you want to do is make sure that they're trying to you know, they're they're they're they're creating the opportunities for themselves, and like, by not wrestling, you're eliminating that possibility. You know, it's like what are you doing? 01:09:43 Speaker 1: Yeah? 01:09:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love this. It was open. 01:09:45 Speaker 6: Just give it, give the kid an opportunity and then go get it. 01:09:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 01:09:49 Speaker 2: You got to feel it when I when I was a freshman in high school in eighth grade, I got like a lot of trouble and so my dada hate you're playing footballcause I got to quit playing all sports. And it was like middle of Jily in Arizona, and this the head coach. They were doing like camp guy freshman through senior, like that big camp for all the kids to kind of like get acclimated. And uh, We're like going around in groups. And halfway through I go up to my dad and I'm like, hey, I'm done. 01:10:14 Speaker 1: I want to quit. 01:10:15 Speaker 2: I'm over it. And my Dad's like, all right, that's the head coach of the varsity team. Go tell them you quit. I'll meet you in the car. And I literally I looked at that coach. My dad walked and sat in the car. I was like, man, all right, So I finished the entire day. I get in the car and my dad goes, I just want you to know what it feels like to be on the other side of the hill. If you could just feel what that's like, I promise it's gonna work out. And I was like, damn, yeah, it was awesome. 01:10:39 Speaker 1: That's a good dad. 01:10:41 Speaker 2: That was a good moment. That's Chaparo High School though. Yeah, that's when your boy was falling an old Tommy timon right number four. 01:10:51 Speaker 6: I need wrestling videos, dude. 01:10:53 Speaker 4: I bro growing up when my boys, when my friends would come in the house, my dad would talk about the the weekend from wrestling back. You want to watch them tape and they'd be sitting there. We put a tape in on the VCRD of the day recorded from being on the mat. We just have to sit there and watch our wrestling. Because my dad would like force people to watch wrestling. He loved wrestling. 01:11:09 Speaker 1: You and my dad. 01:11:10 Speaker 4: I got a van. 01:11:11 Speaker 6: I got a van out there with four hundred thousand miles out of because me and his little brother traveled the country and all those tournaments. 01:11:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know Tulsa, Oklahoma. 01:11:21 Speaker 1: There he wants all three No, yeah, man, that was so fun, great, so fun. 01:11:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, bro Cody was. 01:11:29 Speaker 6: But then then then Steam would be in some wrestling tournament and Nick would come to watch him, and half the stands are going to get autographs from Nick and not watching the damn wrestling. 01:11:37 Speaker 4: And you're thinking, hey, that's a solid feeling that long days wrestling. Now, it's a long day, long days. 01:11:44 Speaker 1: You're up at two, three and you're not done till eight. 01:11:47 Speaker 4: But when you're bro is when your brother's good and when they finally you know, the matchups finally start having. 01:11:52 Speaker 1: You know, it's something different about that sport. I know we're talking abou a lot about football. You guess you're both NFL guys and stuff, But it's just wrestling, bro. Like when you watch your little brother go ahead like that, man, Like you look at the parent across and the brother across, and there's just this there's this energy. 01:12:07 Speaker 2: Man Like our family versu year, we used to Yeah, that definitely makes a person. 01:12:10 Speaker 1: You know him so like a lot of the parents never really had it, but but there were a couple of parents that had some ship to say, and we would we would, we would give him a look and we'd be like, hey, man, you fucking be careful with the way with the way you're talking right now. It's like even pined this. I remember, I remember pinned this kid and uh, the kid got up and like pushed him. And Steven's super humble and my little brother is a fucking tank. But you never, he's really nice guy. He's a big baby. You know, he really want to hurt nobody, you know, so so he's you know, all right, fine, cool, gonna be a dickhead. He praised his hand and his fucking dad starts talking to him. And I was a lunatic at the time, man, I was like full fucking gym just and you can see it on your fight anywhere. Man, So I started talking, You're talking to him like that came here, mother fucking and big thing in the middle of the mat. You know, it's just crazy. It was good times. I was ready all the times right then. 01:13:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, wrestling that it's a good seeing him go at it like that. 01:13:04 Speaker 1: It's just different energy. You know. That's why, Like when we go to the m m A fights and ship, could you imagine that, Like you guys play football, but like, bro, imagine your job is. 01:13:11 Speaker 4: To go fire your families. 01:13:13 Speaker 1: Families with the family wives are there's a sports and one of the other wife is like beat his ass, you know. The crowd like like looking at that, like, y wow, this is really it. 01:13:25 Speaker 4: Once those gates closed, bro, and that octagon like got the one other person. 01:13:29 Speaker 2: That Alex Prifight, that Alex Prarifight that was supposed to be McGregor Chandler. The face off he had with that Croatian dude for five minutes. They just year at each other. 01:13:38 Speaker 1: Eerie the best you ever seen. Have you met that guy, the Croatian cat? Yeah? No, oh my god, I met Eerie with Pops you know, and he goes, Nick, nice to meet you, man, and he goes, uh, Paradigm Agency. I go, are that's your agency? That's cool man. Yeah, well that's Connor's thing, right, and he goes, uh uh, I'm that's right. 01:14:03 Speaker 2: You're right. 01:14:05 Speaker 1: Really nice meeting way man. 01:14:10 Speaker 4: Oh there's the big dog missoom wrestler. 01:14:20 Speaker 1: There he is. 01:14:21 Speaker 2: We were just singing your prais is. 01:14:23 Speaker 1: That's when he won the state championship. I think something like that right back to back him. 01:14:28 Speaker 6: I'm him. 01:14:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, remember when you won the States? Though it was against that kid that was talking a little ship. You had to put him down. His mom was crying. 01:14:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was getting cussed out. 01:14:41 Speaker 1: I was chanting to cry, cry cry. 01:14:45 Speaker 4: How bad you beat him? So it was a match. It was like yeah, whatever dogs are coming, remember heavyweight, Like it's never oh yeah to take that wins yeah or yeah he gets a tossome over under over under on somebody. Yeah, Like it's that kind of thing. 01:15:02 Speaker 1: So I don't know. Stevie was an animal, man. I remember, like I remember it was so weird when he was a kid too, because he was the sweetest kid. 01:15:10 Speaker 4: Man. 01:15:11 Speaker 1: He's still, like I say, he's the nicest guy, you know, and uh, he's not like me. I'm a fucking dickhead. But him, he's the nicest guy and you never know it. And I remember when he started doing this ship. He go to these tournaments and he he's this cute little kid, this kid. My grandma's there, you know, and we're all hanging out and he's laying on grandma's you know. And then he goes out there on the mat and he just pin pin pin pin, gold, gold thing, you know. And and he comes back and he puts he puts his head on grandma, you know, Like, what the fuck is going on? Man, figure it out. 01:15:46 Speaker 2: That's awesome, Grandma. 01:15:49 Speaker 4: We grew up in that era where it was like, uh, the Palmers. Do you remember the Palmer Brothers out of Ohio Logan Steiberg, Yeah, Stevers, Yeah, the Steeverers. That was like kind of Cody's Cody's Agent generation. The Palmer Brothers. Their dad was an absolute psychopath. Like if they didn't tech, if they weren't teching kids in Tulsa and everything else, like they were getting motherfucked on the side of the Palmer Bros. They'd be I remember calling crying because he was like the magazine but he was like the cat who won everything and they didn't necessarily came out and the Lance Lance, I think had a better career than Colin was like arm bro. Yeah yeah, bro, they were. That was a different family. 01:16:27 Speaker 6: My parents they're not they're not doing the job. They're just they're just look at Ferrari's parents. Yeah, right, craziness. 01:16:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's the wrestling world. It's a different culture. 01:16:38 Speaker 1: Man, he's a little wild, a little wild. 01:16:40 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about wrestling. 01:16:41 Speaker 1: Wrestled Will three times. He's bodied me every single time. 01:16:44 Speaker 2: Really, body, When I was a kid, When I was a kid, I saw one video of some kid getting slammed and snapping his elbow, and I was like, I'm never fucking doing that. That sounds like the dumbest thing ever. 01:16:54 Speaker 1: Do you have? 01:16:55 Speaker 6: Like the how much did you way in high school? 01:16:57 Speaker 2: Fucking you're looking at it is my senior year, I was like two fifty four, two fifty five, But before that was I think my freshman year high school was like maybe two hundred two ten. 01:17:07 Speaker 6: So freshman year, sophomore year, well you put on about thirty. 01:17:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just kind of I guess so if I was like I was ten fifteen every year with Mike. Oh he's talking about college. Yeah, college was Mike Barwiss. That was my coach for the first year. I played my retrot freshman year A two eighty five and the Big Ten. I was like tiny, holding on for dear life. I played Adrian Claiborne, Ryan Carrigan, JJ Wall actually didn't play JJ, but he was on a schedule. Oh Man, Cameron Hayward, bro it was. I remember my freshman year being like this is insane, this is this is the Big ten, and it's like first round pick, first round pick, first round pick. There's a Buchanan, a kid from Illinois. 01:17:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was nice. 01:17:44 Speaker 2: He was nice. He was a first round pick. Played against him too. 01:17:46 Speaker 1: I remember thinking of my year when I graduated. 01:17:51 Speaker 2: I will my sophomore before my retro sophomore year to my senior year. I was right around that three hundred and then to senior three ten, just bulking due to wake up in the morning, go to was It wasn't Peter Pip with pizza hut. There was a pizza hut like downstairs in the common area in the morning. Well, no, I would go in the afternoon and get a h Alfredo pasta with chicken chicken Alfredo pasta, put it in the fridge, and then wake up at three in the morning, smack it. Go back to sleep, wake up at five point thirty, go get the workout, throw up, get a big shake, go to class. Just constantly eating, dude, constantly. 01:18:25 Speaker 1: There's nuts, Bell's Pizza, Bell's Pizza for the boys. 01:18:28 Speaker 2: Dude, you get a twenty four pack of Hams, you get twenty a warm twenty four pack of Hams in college and then a slice of Bell's pizza. 01:18:37 Speaker 1: Can't beat it. Yes, that was right across on Packard Street. 01:18:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that was. 01:18:43 Speaker 1: That's me unrecognizable. Yeah, that's super tight. Yeah. 01:18:53 Speaker 4: I mean Taylor's glow up is like it's got to be a top three. 01:18:58 Speaker 1: You've had a nice glow up. Bro. It's strange. It's strange how the bigger dudes skinny out like when they get done in the league. Because we we know, like Uncle Mark, Yeah, you know, we have an uncle that played at U of M. He was an offensives guard tackle. Yeah he was. He was just same thing. Yeah, dud, love your old man. He's great. You just see it in his eyes. You know that's his dad that I know very well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, our das trust me. 01:19:33 Speaker 4: We interrupt this episode to bring you cars dot com. Your car is one of, if not the most valuable asset that you have, and knowing how much your car's worth will help you when the time comes to sell. Your car could be worth more than you thought. And if you're thinking about a new car but not sure if it fits your budget, be sure to check out cars dot com and their market value to see if you're trading might be worth more than expected. 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And we were they kicked it off the pro circuit, and that's when it was like we will, we will, like we got to do something with our life now because there's nothing else out there, okay. And that was when I did the Seal thing. And then when we had failed, and I when I had failed and I came back, I was doing community college. I was part time at a powerhouse gym and gaming just with the boys, like for fun on the side, and we didn't have anything to grind or get after. But then Call of Duty had come out with Call of Duty Ghosts, so I bought that, played that and I started playing these little small urnaments on the side, and I'm streaming them, and my viewership starts going from like twenty people to like eighty to like one hundred, and then like four hundred, five hundred people, And now I'm starting to have this little this little suall ray and I mean every night it's a fucking party. And I got five hundred people coming in there. We're playing tournaments. Man, we're locked in, We're doing the energy drinks. And that that was the true beginning. I mean I had been streaming before that, but it's only for fun. When I had five hundred people in there and the industry was starting to turn a little bit, like there was more fire on it, there was more cash coming in. I was in community college, man, I just didn't I was just doing it to check the box. It's like, yeah, I'm trying to do something dad, you know, yeah, right? How it went off? My ass? 01:22:04 Speaker 4: Yeah? How did the industry start to evolve? Like was there a platform that that came out at the time? 01:22:11 Speaker 1: Was it? 01:22:12 Speaker 4: Because I remember when I think it was like twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, when I felt like Roger staffold Katy Vaccaro, they started to like invest people started to have Yeah, Katy. 01:22:20 Speaker 2: Carlo started a company for all games. 01:22:23 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I forget what it's called, but educate us on how that. 01:22:26 Speaker 1: Also, Jack and the boys keep bringing up Tyler and Hinja, Big Big shout out to him man, because I we'll talk about him in a second, but let's let's back up, because this was great for gaming, and it catapulted gaming to where it is today. But gaming was already on fire pre this. I mean in my opinion, and I can give you some stats and you might you might be like, damn, But when we were playing Call of Duty, like I got that five hundred people in the stream every night, you know, that was called douty ghost, and aw, what was happening was the technology was getting better. So what we're doing here like the podcast stuff, like you remember the podcast Boom. Now everybody's got the mics. We're all talking about ship like kind of like that with gaming, like it started to become super accessible to be a streamer to stream, so everybody starts doing it, and then everybody starts trying to create content. But only so many people can actually go and play these games at a high Like we gangs compete, right, like these these these lines that fucking. 01:23:18 Speaker 4: Suck and have personality. 01:23:19 Speaker 1: I say that too. A lot of the people that are so good are dark, like talking to a fucking wall, like there's just nothing there, right, they got that touch so I'm in this weird little area where I'm like, okay, you know, I got I have a personality, but I'm also fucking cracked, you know. So my so my viewership is just going saying that it's dude. I mean, that was a big couple of years man, Calldy ghosts into a W. No, sorry, Caldy ghosts into uh yeah, into into a W into Black Ops three? What's AW advanced to Warfare? See right? Okay, oh yeah, okay, I got you guys. Just like new cal Dude. Games are coming out and we're playing them, and the viewership is just growing because we're just we're winning tournament after tournament, and it's getting crazier and crazier. And it gets to this point where you know, you got like two three, four, five thousand people in the stream every night, and you got like ten k people paying you X amount per month plus donations. I mean, now you're scoop. You know, you're doing like one hundred two hundred K and you don't even know how how the fuck you got here. You're just a kid that was playing games. You're good at them, you win, you're passionate. So they're in the stream being entertained by it. You're you're thankful for that. You're now I'm now I'm finding ways to give back, like we're doing giveaways, We're doing community tournaments. Like hey, listen, you might be a smaller streamer without an audience. Okay, like a smaller podcast group. You bring the small podcast guy on your podcast, and your podcast gives him great exposure, right you just you just hooked them up. So now I'm doing I'm doing much like that. And then you know, at that point, that's when Fortnite came out, and I mean I was already averaging like five thousands, six thousand people if Fortnite drops, I had never played a BR and a BR is where like you know, the gas closes everybody for themselves. Whoever is left alive with the end, you know, it gets to win. And I didn't play a BR because you know, PUBG was out, h one was out, people were playing that. But that wasn't for controller, and I'm a controller. I fucking can't play keyboard mouse. I'm just ass Before I had come out, and I hopped on it real early because I was just super excited to play a bar and dude, it was just it was. It was just a good decision in hindsight. I mean, the game just fucking blew up. And Tyler's a big, a big, you know, catalyst of that. And I hate to sound dumb. Tyler's ninja. Yeah, okay, yeah, he's a good buddy of mine him go way back. 01:25:42 Speaker 2: He's like one of the first streamers, as from a cat like I don't I don't know anything about the streaming game, but that's like one of the people that were like the face of streaming right when he was the face because. 01:25:51 Speaker 1: Of like the streams that he did, like when this game took off and took gaming to a whole new like just whole new. He he was the guy in the front did that. But like, look he's up here, all of us are down here. But I'm in this bitch, man. I mean I was. I was doing my own thing, low key, like really nice. I mean that those those those five thousand people were twenty k, thirty k fucking moving man. But he was up like one hundred k, two hundred k streaming with Drake. That Drake stream had like eight hundred thousand people in it or some shit. Wild man, you know, those those are those are things we never thought we'd ever see. 01:26:26 Speaker 2: When you're doing eight hundred k or three hundred k people streaming, what kind of money is that? 01:26:31 Speaker 1: I had two streams in the history of my career that went over four hundred thousand viewers. And I mean, like, you do you do eight hours of that with ads and subs? I mean, do you're you're legitimately making in a day, you're making like twenty to fifty k. It just depends on how many ads you run, how many people sub you know, man, yeah. 01:26:52 Speaker 4: Same, how did it? 01:26:54 Speaker 1: We didn't know what to do? Bro, You guys might understand because like you got it on the podcast thing and like you know, you got to build it up and you understand from that point. But like your people and the people that tune into your poet like they were there. You know, the football has been a thing for a long time, like gaming is just it's like some trailblazing shit Like these last ten years we've seen gaming go from this to that, and it's like, really it was just hard to digest and take it all in and how to move like you got to you know, you can't really go to anybody like, hey, how do I do this. They don't fucking know. 01:27:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I want to ask about, Like, how as you're becoming a streamer or as you you know, you're a video game guy. You love streaming, how did you learn how to start building a business out of it? Cause I assume that's really I assume that's really hard to do. Like again, you got you're probably gonna have young kids now that want to know how to do it. How did that start to develop for you? Like you're like, Okay, I'm getting all this money, like building content, like having the cameras. 01:27:53 Speaker 1: It's gonna sound crazy, man, but I think when people focus too much on the business side of things, even maybe in podcasting too. Like you guys got your thing you do here, you're with your homies. You guys are real passionate about this stuff. You're on your bus. You know, like this feels good, man, It feels like grassroots, Like fucking let's go man. We started from here. We're just fucking slinging it. You know, like when you lose that, it can it can get weird quick. You know, you got to remember that you were that kid playing that call of duty in your room at two am and you got to hold on to that. So like the creative business thing, like, yeah, I see where you're going, and you're right, it is a business. But like my first foot forward with anything is not truly ever about the business. It's more so just like passion, you know, like if I'm into something, then I'll do it, you know. Like I didn't come on this podcast for business. I came on the podcast because I like you guys, and I like football. I like our conversations, I like our relationships, and I thought it'd be fun to have a conversation. You know that. Now I'm not gonna be ignorant that this could help my business. There could be people out there that tune into this and that will now sure or back and forth. Right, So that's good and you shouldn't ignore that, you know, you should put a percentage of the process into that. It's just you gotta be careful with how much you dump in there. 01:29:04 Speaker 4: But as you're developing and people are winning a sponsor, are you the one having these conversations? 01:29:08 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I have a guy that takes care of a lot of that stuff too, you know, but we talk about it all the time, justin you know, and he he's my agent. You know. We're real particular about who we work with, especially nowadays. Man. You know, I mean now that I'm a father, you know, the companies I represent, the people I want to do business with. You know, it's it's not as open, you know. I got I got a little kid. I gotta you know, I gotta, I gotta play my cards, right. I can't be just partner up with anybody, you know. I got to make sure it aligns with my views and how I see things going, you know, the direction I want to not only this country, but this planet to go in. You know. 01:29:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I got another one. If you I was gonna ask explain this Twitch universe. Are you currently banned on it? 01:29:52 Speaker 1: No? I did get banned though, for saying a derogatory term. Try it was tranny, you know, and truth and truth be told. I really did not know that I was ever used as a derogatory term for those people. I really didn't, I know. 01:30:09 Speaker 2: But it's just you're you're so well spoken, and then you were obviously in a hairy, like watery situation. Yeah, and you're like, I just don't you just want to say the right thing here? 01:30:19 Speaker 4: Yeah? 01:30:19 Speaker 1: You do? You know, I think I've stopped caring as much about what people think about my opinions. You know, I believe the things I believe, and if people ask me, I'm going to share those things. I'm confident. And then you know, I'm always eager to learn more and to explore the other side of the coin. But at the same time, I strongly disagree with all of that stuff. You know, I think it's inherently unhealthy and it's a scary precedent to set going forward for young children to say, hey, listen, an they're feeling a type of way they can do this, this, this, and that I believe, you know, through the way I was raised and now being a father myself, that there's other ways to combat that, and that if at the least the first thing that we should do is try to find a healthier alternative than the things that we're doing. So, you know, I spoke about that, and there's a lot of trans people out there and LGB people. They probably think that I hate them, but I don't. You know, the real truth is is that I I feel bad, you know, that they feel the way they do, and I want what's best for them. I just don't think that it's smart to pedal and push the things that they're doing. Yeah, I really don't. I think that that's bad, and it's been proven to be bad. You know, when you make those kinds of chances to your body and then you encourage them at a young age, that's that's that is just. I can't believe that we live in a world that does that. So I spoke out about that. I did use the word tranning. I did not mean to be derogatory, but make no mistake about it. I was talking shit, Like I mean, I don't want to sit up here, and I was talking shit. But I'm giving it as good as I get it, because you know, when you open up that door. I mean a lot of these people, you know, they live online, man, and they're about it online. Yeah, I was patrolling. 01:32:02 Speaker 2: Did you did you become more passionate about this stance once. 01:32:05 Speaker 1: You had a kid. Yeah. I became more passionate about the stance, and I also became more comfortable speaking about it because, like I said earlier, man, I think having a kid and being a parent, a lot of times you hear parents say that, like, you know, having a kid changes everything. I don't know if I believe that, you know, I haven't been a parent for too long, right, but I do believe that having a kid changes the way you think about everything. So and look, look I kind of always thought this way. 01:32:30 Speaker 2: I just I wasn't as passionate, right, right, because it's not necessarily affecting or has a potential to affection. 01:32:35 Speaker 1: Two cares, right, just keep it going. But I mean, you know, you're seeing a lot more of it, and you're seeing it become an issue in schools, especially here in this country, and I just you know it if and when, hopefully someday, we look back on this time and it's a lot different. I would have been super disappointed in myself that I never said anything right straight up, that's what I thought about it. I spoke to my dad about you know, damn, I making the wrong decision, and like you you know, business wise, yeah, I'm burning all kinds of cash, but I'm set. I'm set. I'm good. So that's also a different It's a little caveat in the conversation too. You know, you might ask yourself, you know, hey, Nick, should you have said something way sooner? You know, did you hold out because of the bread I mean, the truth is is that I had a kid. That's the truth, and that was a big turning point for me. You know. But it's definitely the combination of a lot of things. Man. You know, either way, I have a community that strongly believes in me. There's so many people out there that agree with me on this topic as well. They're just afraid to talk about it, speak about it because you get in big trouble. Yeah. Really you gotta hop around and well, I mean, how do you guys feel about that? 01:33:36 Speaker 4: If you know, I loved everything you said right there, I'm interested too. Like you refer to speaking your old man like, I'm sure it's kind of difficult to try and maneuver your words when you when you're like in a world where it's just chat online. How are people thinking about me? How are people feeling to where you get to a point of freedom of like, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna let it ride. I'm gonna speak on this. I don't you give less fus about what people think? Was that like a difficult balance when you finally like kind of found that footing? 01:34:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, like a big, a big, a big hurdle, you know, because you don't want to make people mad, like I don't want to wake up every day and piss people off at the end of the day. The guy that's tweeted me the paragraph what he's upset like, I don't want him to be mad or disappointed me. I'm sorry that he feels the way he does about me, and I wish I could do something about it. And like, if he could really just rip the truth out of my fucking chest and put it in front of him, he would see that I'm not this enemy unless he wants that being taught to kids in school, then you are my enemy, right, So you know, it's it's just this thing, it's it's. 01:34:35 Speaker 2: It's logically everything you said, and I align with especially having kids, you're run of those issues with things being taught to kids in school. And when it's like, hey, you're going to school to learn the things you need to learn at school, not the thing, not what you think the kids should learn, but just like the math, the science, the history, all those things, and then let me go, let me go, hay, and then and then it's up to us as parents to go and now and still these beliefs that we want if you're a religious cat, you want to instill religion if you know all those things, because it's very difficult for me to understand, like my children's opinions are really like the opinions they have are kind of the opinions I have and that they've heard, and so they just feel that way as well. 01:35:17 Speaker 1: So like it's a it's just Harry. 01:35:20 Speaker 2: When you start messing with kids and not allowing them to develop and grow the way you want them to, it just becomes more difficult. It it's more difficult to like stand by and this letter, right. I struggle with that all the time. 01:35:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, And I mean you know people people like to say that, oh you throw you throw being a parent around, You throw being a parent, you know what I mean, Like anybody can have an opinion even if they're not a parent. I agree with that. I just think that there's a perspective that's gained after having your own kid, which I'm sure you guys can agree with, right, And it's just you know, you know how impressionable your kids are, and you know how impressionable your kid is. You know, It's like I know as well, like when I do stuff in front of my little boy. You know he does it back and vice versa. Like we play all the time, we hang out all the time, so we know how impressionable these young minds are because we were young too. Man like it, Like, it's just not it doesn't make sense to encourage these kinds of things when we know how kids are. 01:36:15 Speaker 4: When you get banned, is this somebody from Twitch reaching out to you, letting letting you know that? 01:36:19 Speaker 1: Yeah? I said that. I said that, and they banned me for. 01:36:24 Speaker 6: A week. Yeah. 01:36:26 Speaker 1: I found out when I was on the way to see you guys in Vegas no ship. Yeah, it was like three in the morning and we I woke up to being banned. I was like, okay, you know, I didn't really care. 01:36:35 Speaker 4: Man, is there not like a like some strike system or anything. 01:36:38 Speaker 1: It's just kind of there usually is, man, and I don't have any strikes. But I will say, uh, they take that very seriously at Twitch, you know, like look, I mean Twitch and just the gaming world in general is very pro all that. So I'm kind of like a dinosaur. I'm off on my own, you know. 01:36:56 Speaker 4: But you know, my. 01:36:56 Speaker 1: Community, I was gonna say, your audience, there are they I think the majority of them aligne as well. But but there are some that have not, and they've spoken about that, you know. 01:37:05 Speaker 6: But it was that. 01:37:06 Speaker 4: Now was that, and I'm sorry for being ignorant about this, was that when you were like, we're gonna we're gonna boycott call of duty. 01:37:13 Speaker 1: I never called for a boycott. 01:37:15 Speaker 4: That was the audience. 01:37:16 Speaker 1: People were just doing what people do, right. I never said like, hey, don't play god. 01:37:19 Speaker 2: It has to make you feel good though, knowing your audience is like that. 01:37:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's crazy. It's like the internet though it lives for two weeks and then it dies. It's weird. Yeah, it's very strange. 01:37:27 Speaker 4: So that's another thing that people need to remind Yeah, on the Internet, when things. 01:37:31 Speaker 2: Are good, it's like, hey, this in a week, this will be gone. When things are bad, you think the world's coming out, it's like this is gonna. 01:37:36 Speaker 1: Be over twenty four. 01:37:37 Speaker 4: It's gonna be something new there. 01:37:38 Speaker 1: But something always something to bitch about, you know, or be happy about. It's that it goes up and it goes down, man, you know, right, But there's a big moment in my career. Man, I mean, I've never been in trouble like that. I've never been in heat like that, I guess per se, you know. And uh, I think currently today I feel real good about it all. Man. I'm very proud of myself that I said what I said. I know it's not an easy thing to say. And uh as time goes on, I'm getting I'm getting more and more confident speaking on this. I've done a lot of research, man, I really I spoken to a lot of people on both sides of it too. Man. I think ultimately we all agree that we want that we want what's best for people, you know, and me. You know, I'm I'm a pretty healthy gamer, and that's where a lot of this comes from. Man, It's just overall health, you know, Like, do you take care of yourself? Is this taking care? You know? I sign off on every fucking stream, every YouTube video I do. I say, take care of yourself, take care of each other, piece of love. Man, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean that take care of yourself. And is that taking care of yourself, cutting off pieces of your body, taking fucking drugs that are horrible for you, your mind and your body. It's inherently, no matter how you spin it, a very unhealthy thing to do you know, And I just can't. I can't sign off on that. 01:38:48 Speaker 2: Right after the week? Band, what's your relationship with Twitch? 01:38:51 Speaker 1: Like now, it's okay, you know, they understand there's gonna be different flavors on Twitch, you know. But at the same time, man, if I had to guess, there's some people in that office really don't mess with me. But it's like, look, look, I don't have any weird ship in my heart about it, you know. 01:39:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate you speaking on it too. 01:39:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't mind. Yeah, you do a good job, no doubt. 01:39:11 Speaker 2: There was the doctor and the notes here that shrim gave me doctor disrespect. 01:39:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. That's a tough one right now too. Man, I'm not gonna lie to you. It's tough. 01:39:19 Speaker 2: And you obviously know him personally. 01:39:20 Speaker 1: Good dude, I know him. I know him. I know him personally, I do. I mean, we met in person twice briefly, you know, and we've played a lot of games together throughout the years. There's this people think that we're like best friends. That's not true, you know. And then people also say, oh, they only gained a couple of times. That's not true either. We're somewhere in the center, like when he text me when you used to he would text me in character, right, you know, like the doc does what the doc wants man. 01:39:53 Speaker 6: For Sunday. 01:39:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the truth, you know. And when he when all this stuff came out about him over the past few months or whatever, you know, it's been real hard because the Internet hates it. Well, the gaming world hates a guy like Doc. They hated guy like me, They hated guy that represents family, you know, being a dude's dude. You know, you got to dance to the beat of their drum and we don't. We just don't. So he he you know, when he when that stuff came out, originally, everybody just immediately jumped on board with canceling this guy. Let's get this guy the fuck out of here, man, stat I mean everybody did. 01:40:35 Speaker 4: And if everybody who hates him, when you're ready to see somebody fall and they start to fall, you run narrative possible to put this. 01:40:44 Speaker 1: You know, pedophilia and and underage stuff. I mean, that's a slam dunk, right, I mean, so, so the Internet went crazy. But this was before we had not a single ounce of proof. All we had was an ex Twitch employee that had said that this was going on. We didn't even have a comment from Doc. You know, so people are Nick, how come you don't text him on the side, motherfucker. I fucking did. But he couldn't tell me anything because he's bound in this big suit with with Twitch, so you can't say anything. He sent me a texting. I can't really say much, man, I'm sorry. So that goes on. The Internet's canceling this guy. Everybody because the trans stuff just happened. Everybody's like, oh, Nick, how about this guy? This is your boy? Huh A strong stance here exactly. I I go on, I say, listen, man, I understand what people are saying. Let's wait till we get some facts. Let's wait till we hear what's actually going on, and then and then we'll make a decision. I was one of the only ones that fucking did that. Everybody else just jumped to conclusions. 01:41:48 Speaker 2: Now to me, and let's put a let's put a time out real quick. The way you handled it maybe the most logical way to handle it. Right, someone accused somebody, you would think instead of just being like write judicial system. 01:41:58 Speaker 1: And that's the way the internet works. 01:42:00 Speaker 2: And I could be I could be talking out of my ass right now because I actually don't even know the full context of the situation with doctor disrespect. But any of these things you look at and you're like, all right, Like we talked about de Sean Watson earlier, one thing comes out like let's get the facts, right. The one comes out like all right, let's get the facts. We start rolling down a little bit of hill like all right, now we understand now the doctors. So I want to say, like, that is a great logical way of handling a situation like that when you're being thrust it into essentially something that's not your business. 01:42:30 Speaker 1: I mean, in any light, when somebody says that a person did something, you can't just throw them down the hill. You got to prove it. Man, It's got to be something there, anything, something. So I wait, too, you're not. I got a bunch of shit for waiting. Everyone's like, fuck you man, speak out and your boy, what the fuck mean? I mean? I got I got railed on social but that was the only one that didn't So I waited. Then he comes out with a statement, are do you guys know about that tweet. Yeah, so this guy comes out sweet up because I was this tweet and which is I'll deleted by the way, it's his tweet of like a bunch of different paragraphs, And it was the worst tweet that I have ever seen from somebody in trouble. Not only was the original the worst, Get this, This motherfucker edits that same tweet like six times. He edits like key words out of the tweet. But you can go back and see the original tweet on the fucking thread. So there's no point of editing out if you can just see it, right. So he's just making this horrible. So this comes out me, Tim Denny, we all get together. It's like, fuck man, I can't believe it. He and and he admits in this tweet to talking to somebody inappropriately who was underage. Now let's just make sure the whole bus. Let's get time out on the bus, hard time out a bunch of dues in here. Respective all, everybody agrees that if that's a case, it's done done, no matter how it. I mean, if you if you're speaking inappropriately with a fucking with an underraged person, it's done for me. But that's that that's me done. I don't care what the fuck it is. You guys agree, everybody agree, agree, anybody don't agree? 01:44:18 Speaker 4: Agreed? 01:44:18 Speaker 1: Are so like anybody else would in this bus? I go on there, everybody's pressed. The whole world's pressing me, right, because Nick can speak out on trans stuff, but when his own boys with the underrage, right, Okay, I go on Twitter, I say, look, facts came out. Basically, you know, this sucks fucking ass. We didn't know about this obviously, and we're gonna cut ties and we don't condone or agree with any with anything like this. They're not happy with that either, So why are they not happy with it? Because like, oh, so you can go hard on to leave the kids a loanship, but when it's your boy, it's just like, oh, you're not happy about it? What do you want? Man? I said, I don't condone. It's disgusting and cut and we're cutting ties. Done. So weeks go by, this guy deletes that tweet and then says that it was all a joke and he just was He put up that tweet as bait to see who his real friends are. Yeah, so he got his community reactivates the old Nick. You turn on your boy, YadA, YadA, YadA, you know, and that's this whole fucking thing when like we know that's not true. I mean, he sent a text to me, Tommy and Clock as well, saying like, hey boys, I'm sorry that this. I'm sorry that you guys are in this. You know, I wish I wish it wasn't this way. I apologize, you know for that. And I mean he he never we don't really text like that like crazy, so but putting that aside, man, like it's enough for me, you know, to to cut ties. And you know, uh, the situation sucks Dad in the bed. Well he feels sometimes because we met him his wife and his daughter at the super Bowl, you know what I mean, and he I got all of his fans on my dick, Like, Yo, what a fucking great friend you are. Yeah, bro, you meet his wife and his daughter at the super Bowl and then find out this forty four year old dude is sleezing around with some seventeen year old you know, and we already know he cheated on his wife. He went on the stream and admitted that, and it was run the same timeline as all this stuff is coming out. It's like, dude, you know, like, get fucking real, man. You can't win with these people. That's what I'm realizing. Like, the Internet is the Internet. It's gonna internet. You know. You do what you do. You keep your fucking nose forwards, stay out of trouble, keep it popping. Be real, be fucking real. 01:46:42 Speaker 4: Man. 01:46:42 Speaker 1: Too many motherfuckers are fake, not only in this world, but especially in the gaming scene. Man. A lot of two faced people. They pretend to care about things they really don't care about. You know, this shit's fucking crazy stock stuff. I mean, that's so fake. I mean, look, the guy gets on stream every day in a fucking costume, so I I guess it makes sense, you know, but what the fuck playing the character playing character vision about it being fake? He's he's he's fucking look at him. Yeah. Look, you know, look I'll throw I'll throw his community a bone, you know, and I will say and it shouldn't it shouldn't go without I mean, it shouldn't go without saying man, I mean what he did for the streaming world and gaming community as well. I mean, that's one of the biggest entertainers online in the history of the industry forever I mean, for fucking ever, his production, the work he puts in his next hele But you just can't do things like that, And and to say that your friends are expected to stand by you as you make those kinds of mistakes, and when these are the same friends that got kids of their own. Man, I mean, it's not like me and doct are like you two. We don't live in the same town again, on the same fucking bust. No, man, this guy's in California. I'm in Florida. We play games together, but he's in a fucking costume and speaks with an accent. I mean, we're not really best, but he's here, right right. People were mad about that too, that I was playing down the relationship, but that's the reality of the situation. 01:48:06 Speaker 4: Well, I think too. It's like, you know, up until that point, it's like somebody in the streaming community, you see him as like one of your boys, not like best friends or nothing like that. But when something like that comes out and you're all the facts are now, you ultimately want to believe the best and who you're kind of seeing at first, and when it's not, you're kind of like that fucking sucks. I feel kind of dumb that I got looped into that and believe in this and that. So yeah, it's just all around it is. It's a shitty situation. 01:48:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean hard. 01:48:32 Speaker 4: You're not gonna win. 01:48:32 Speaker 1: That's the truest part is that this situation is just shit because he's claiming that Twitch was after him, and there really might be some truth to that, like they didn't like him, and there was some contractual things that lined up that makes sense with his with but at the end of the day, he admitted to doing what people were saying that he did right, and then edited the tweet seven times, and then the lead of the tweet, bro, we're done. Say we're done. You know we're done. Say we're done. We're done. Man, that's it. 01:48:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough deal man or Hot Topics Today on the Bus, Hot Topics, Last twenty minutes Hot Topics We can we can pivot three up this episode of Bring You Draft King TD Tuddy taking it to the house in for six whatever you call a touchdown, one thing's for sure. 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Get back to the episode. 01:50:07 Speaker 4: We got some wet questions. 01:50:10 Speaker 2: What do you hold on? I want to know what do you enjoy more? 01:50:12 Speaker 1: Sports? 01:50:13 Speaker 2: Gambling or playing cards? Playing back rod black black jack with all that, it's a fucking out there. 01:50:22 Speaker 1: No, no, we went up. The first last time I saw you, I thought you murdered. No, we did the first time. 01:50:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, both of us went up there. 01:50:31 Speaker 1: Yes, second time tunnel chaos slaughtered tunnel. Ok. 01:50:35 Speaker 2: You know who is one of the more impressive human beings just putting their nutsack on the table? Is that exposed Cody Man? He is a lunatic because. 01:50:45 Speaker 1: Me like you know, did he sends you there tonight with Lions? 01:50:48 Speaker 7: Oh? 01:50:49 Speaker 2: But the way he sports Cambles is crazy. 01:50:51 Speaker 1: Him one hundred k on the Lions to win the Super Bowl. 01:50:55 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you want eight hundred thousand dollars on the Super Bowl betting the Chiefs. 01:50:58 Speaker 1: No, that was the m m A. Then we all went to that's right. There's a story behind that super quick he put four zero. He was trying to do forty k o a parlay and he added another zero, put four hundred k on the parlay to win eight hundred and he he hit it and then they wouldn't let him change it, and we rode it out. We rode it out and it won. 01:51:21 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:51:21 Speaker 1: I'll never I'll never just insane the way he operates. 01:51:25 Speaker 2: And then when we're when we're playing on the table too, like when I play solo or I don't have I don't have Danae my numbers. As far as big cats go, way way lord. That actually the biggest bets I was ever doing was you, me and Cody that one night when we were out, I just wanted to win ten k, get slice of pizza. 01:51:40 Speaker 1: Couldn't do it, and get the pizza. 01:51:42 Speaker 2: Couldn't get the pizza. Pizza. 01:51:43 Speaker 1: We're just trying to get ten k and the pizza break yeah, with two hands hand pizzazza. And they were sitting right behind us too, the suns. Yes, yes, good times, good times. 01:51:54 Speaker 2: But this guy, Cody man, he will go out there solo, just him and his boys and play and I just he's awesome dude too, Like the good guys. Some people are just don't they just play hard? Million, I mean a million of a well I heard I heard the same thing about Aiden Ross, the way he goes about his game playing. I've been We've obviously been around him in that setting. I'm never played with him, but apparently the kid puts massive amounts of money. 01:52:19 Speaker 5: X QC. 01:52:20 Speaker 1: I don't know who x x QC is one of the biggest streamers in the world. 01:52:23 Speaker 2: Can you pull up x QC. 01:52:25 Speaker 1: If you saw his face, you probably know the. 01:52:27 Speaker 2: Streaming the follow me around streaming thing. I just I haven't fully wrapped my head around that. What do you mean like the like who's the neo then? 01:52:35 Speaker 1: Is that neo? Yeah? 01:52:37 Speaker 2: Neon? Like he's he's constantly streaming himself, no disrespect. 01:52:43 Speaker 4: I don't know. 01:52:44 Speaker 1: I had one interaction with him. Dad's gone. He goes, he goes around. Yeah, he's out. He goes around with bodyguards and purposely he's like purposely provocative. And then when it's ready to happen, the bodyguards come in that bothers me and he's really proud the UFC I fight. 01:53:01 Speaker 2: We were all at last time. Apparently he was like talking about you try Trump or something like that, and then the gate Yeah, and I'm a I could be fucking this whole thing up, but they don't let him in. 01:53:09 Speaker 1: Well, there's a new era of like content creation, and you're seeing it, like that's what you're seeing. It's this like anything for some clicks and and clips and like when I say anything like he literally threatened Trump's life outside of the UFC, like you can't they. 01:53:26 Speaker 2: Try to get in the UFC like on the floor as well. Right, it makes a lot of that, man, I like this Neon guy. I met him one time, shook his hand. 01:53:35 Speaker 1: You met Neon, I believe. 01:53:37 Speaker 4: So. 01:53:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve gave me a watch because me and Dana got him out of a pinch one night we played. We got his money back. The next day he gave me a Rolex and Neon, if I'm saying that correctly, was there. 01:53:48 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 01:53:49 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, He's like, hey man, great to make you seem like a really nice guy. Bull of them wipe my hands and I left. So my one experience I've had fine. 01:53:57 Speaker 4: But I don't like. 01:53:58 Speaker 2: I don't like how these cans that are ripping around with big black security guards, That's what I'm saying. And they're fucking very They're essentially being the Internet out in the real world, but with protection. 01:54:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple of give people spiced they want to and then people. 01:54:14 Speaker 2: Want to try them. All of a sudden, the security guards come in. 01:54:17 Speaker 1: It's important. It's important to note though, for your audience. Aiden Ross is not like him. 01:54:22 Speaker 2: Yeah. See here's what I say about Aiden. I've only been around him a handful of times. We saw him in Miami and I've seen him a few times before, and I was hey, man, we don't think we've officially met. And he was real cool in that moment. The times before that, he'd always kind of walk in the room with his crew not really say anything. So I didn't know what to think of him. But one time I spoke to him, I was like, Oh, this kid seems like. 01:54:41 Speaker 1: He got what's weird? 01:54:43 Speaker 3: Man? 01:54:43 Speaker 1: Like with NFL, and like, who's this kid? Who's this kid right here? That's the white kid. That's Jack. He's one of the worst. 01:54:49 Speaker 2: He does the same thing, right, I seen it horrible. 01:54:52 Speaker 1: They're both horrible. The point I was getting at though, like pro ballplayers, you know, like you guys live in life. It's really interesting in a way a lot of ways. But something that's kind of hard to deal with is getting popular and getting fame so young, Like you're mad young, and all of a sudden, you got all this cash, you got all this fame. How do you deal with it? And you see guys in the NFL struggle with that every year, right, Well, Streaming is getting to the point now where kids can do this like a pop off. Stream can set a kid up for another huge year and then all of a sudden, you're this kid and if you don't handle it right, if you don't have parents, and he's just right there, like on the matching T shirt, I don't care. You want to flex, and you flex. But like it's just the things they do, like when they're provocative on streaming, they're going around there being disrespectful to people that don't even deserve it. Like, you know, his father should smack him in the head for that, you know, because if I did that, he beat the hell out me. If I did some shit like that, if I go up and screaming like I saw some other guy fucking screaming a little kid, like, you just can't. You don't do certain things, you know what, great power comes great responsibility. Spider Man, I love it. I just it's a new age, it's a new thing. It's becoming pretty popular, and these kids got to be careful. 01:56:06 Speaker 4: Man, he's got a massive I mean that kid seems like a loser. 01:56:10 Speaker 1: He is, man, he really is. It's the but you know what, Like it's hard to fault him too though, because now this success is so is so prevalent. So he's in this mode and he's cooking, he's fucking cooking right now. So so now how do you tell a kid like that that's cooking and he's making all his bread, putting it. I'm sure he's putting his mom and his dad on you know what I mean. I'm sure his parents are probably proud. 01:56:31 Speaker 2: Of Him's got a good ecosystem around him. 01:56:33 Speaker 1: Right, So how do you slow a kid like that down? How do you say, Hey, the way you're acting is ridiculous. He go, what the funk are you talking about? Look at this Ferrari right here. 01:56:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it'd be hard to teach him. It'll catch up to him at some point. And that's ultimately, like, how old does this kid? 01:56:47 Speaker 2: How old is he? 01:56:49 Speaker 1: What was his name? Jack? 01:56:51 Speaker 6: I think? 01:56:52 Speaker 2: How how old is this kid? 01:56:53 Speaker 1: Probably? I mean he's young. Man. I really don't know the things you do when you're young, Right. 01:57:00 Speaker 2: I look back at my bro I would have Jack were having this conversation, Uh, Jack, and are having this conversation when we landed in Michigan. Was you always think back, like, man, if I could go back to high school football or college football with my the mindset and the understanding I have now, Like, man, that'd be so fucking sick. Yeah, And then you reflect on some of the dumb shit. You didn't You're like, man, if I just didn't do those things. The problem is with these streamers who have their entire life on tape is they're going to be thirty forty years old and look back, have kids try to teach them a lesson, and then they'll be like, but dad, you see this right here. 01:57:31 Speaker 1: That's a good point. But but you are right. It's just part of life, right, being a dumb ass kid. And we all were no question. I don't want to sit up here on this podcast, and it made no mistake. Man, these guys all know that we were boneheads. But but I think the point that I'm trying to make, and the point that we should if you, if you're in a position like this kid, is you are now obligated to act a certain way. That's it. I don't care if you're young. Same you get an NFL, right, you got to flip it on. I don't care if your little last kids, because these guys are, man. 01:58:00 Speaker 2: They're so hard. Just this one video we're watching right now, him popping this champagne with the girls. 01:58:05 Speaker 1: If you're eighteen, nineteen years old, how do you not think this kid will listen to this, He's gonna fucking die laughing. Yeah, retarded. 01:58:13 Speaker 2: Look at these old freaking guys. 01:58:16 Speaker 4: Sunday look back. Yeah, I mean it catches up to everybody. Yeah, you can just tell this kid's never been an Oklahoma drill. 01:58:23 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. 01:58:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like you can just tell some of these kids who were truly part of growing up is you got to get your ass beat a few times. 01:58:30 Speaker 1: Oh my, you gotta get you what's the worst ass. 01:58:33 Speaker 2: Beat you've ever taken? 01:58:34 Speaker 1: Oh? God, fighting school is young bro? Man? No, noo year old? Oh you got beat up by a fourteen year old last month? What happened? Oh man? I was nineteen. I was boxing and I went to Cooper's Gym in Detroit, really bad part of Detroit actually too man, And I'm a white boy from Deerborn, and Deerborn is kind of like, uh rich, he's got money, you know what I mean. And I pulled up to the guy who wanted to do boxing lesson. He's like, all right, Well, I started getting like decent, you know, like I'm having some some good some good training sessions. Whatever I'm feeling myself. I start taking a couple of boxing fights amateur fights. They're really easy. Three rounds, two minute rounds. You were a big fat hegear you barely even heal. You're a little nervous at first, as soon as you not at all. Just now you're flowing well. I was doing pretty good. So I went over to Krunk Gym, which is a famous gym on the same street as Cooper's Gym, and I went with my trainer, who primarily spars there. He takes me the moment I walk into a bunch of black dudes, they stopped me to let all the other black guys go, and they make me pay him twenty bucks come to the gym. So right then, I know it's fucking choked. I probably shouldn't, but here's the twenty you know, pay him. I go in and I put my hand wraps on and put my shit on, and I'm with my trainer. Blue Blue was a professional boxer, great trainer, name it Blue Man DeAndre Leandre something for his name, but he was a pro boxer out of Crunk. Him and three black dudes getting ready to spar in the big fucking ring. So I'm thinking I'm here to because I'm getting good. Now, That's why they brought me. You know, I'm fucking good now. So I'm doing my hand wraps and shit, and uh, long story short, They're like, yeah, you're not sparring with us, man, you're sparring with them. And they point over to like what would be like a fucking kid corner, and there's like little kids, and there's this kid there who was like thirteen fourteen, and I thought, I mean, I thought, I'm like, no way, Blue, Blue, come on. 02:00:21 Speaker 4: He's the little ast kid. 02:00:21 Speaker 1: And he goes, look, you do good over there, and you can come over here. I go. If I do good over there, I'm like, all right, man, fuck you know, so I get so So the bell goes on. Man I got, I got, I got two hundred dollars gloves, I got my fucking my boxing shoes, I got my fucking nice Grant headgear and shit, and I got all my mouth piece in. This kid had Hain socks. The white was gray. It was the white and the gray, but it was all gray. They were dirty as hell. The toe was coming through the thing on the front, and he had a head gear that couldn't click with gloves, no hand wraps. And you're thinking, they put me with this kid I'm a fuck this little mofucker up, you know. So we started smarring ship. You know, this kid hits me with a couple of jabs off the rib. But dude, and I'm like, what the fuck? I lock in forging holy ship up trying and I'm thinking in my head like what the fuck is going on? Man? I'm trying and he's hit me, and uh I remember there was a point where I was up against the wall because we weren't in the rings in the kid corner. I'm up against the wall and he was hitting me. And when he was hitting me, he was going, he was going like he fucking hated me. Bro, I didn't even know he fucking hates me. And I mean he's hit me, my rip, he is beating his ship out of it. I slide down the fucking wall like in real pain, and Blue comes over and he goes, how you doing, man, And I'm like dying. And that was a real eye out moment for me. I'm like, remember I called you. I'm like, yeah, I think I've done the boxing thing. Man. He retired you. He retired. This kid went out to be a Gold Glove champion like four or five times out of Detroit, and then he went to go fucking He went uh Floyd's team in loss of Hagens. I forgot this fucking kid's name. He was alright for a little bit, but he dude, they pump him out over there. 02:02:07 Speaker 2: Man. 02:02:07 Speaker 1: Really part of boxing is being hungry. 02:02:10 Speaker 7: Man. 02:02:10 Speaker 1: That kid had a different hunger in him than me. 02:02:14 Speaker 2: Shots at the body I got. 02:02:16 Speaker 1: I was nineteen, got fucked up by a fourteen year old god humbling experience, humbling. Hey, man, I'm a lot of things. Man. By keeping a pancake with you always, I could be a douchebag. Man. I'm gonna keep real though. That was the worst. That was the most degrading beatdown, the worst beat that I've ever had with my childhood buddy. When he picked that fight with the two kids in high school. They beat the ship out of us real bad. Yeah they they he my my bigger buddy started. He was like you, he was really big and I was really small, and he started a fight with some kids that were older, and I had to fight because he's fighting, right Hey. He started to lose, so I already knew I was losing, so I skate my best shot. Dude. They beat the fuck out of us. Hey, that's a huge move. Though. They broke my horror bike. That spent four hundred dollars cash on my silver horror bike. Oh my god, I had pegs on the front end. 02:03:06 Speaker 4: Your boy, You knowing you're about to take with the pegs. 02:03:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, two pegs on it the. 02:03:12 Speaker 2: Front and it really makes you a better human being getting your ass. Need it, You gotta have it. 02:03:17 Speaker 1: You can't got stupid ship and not pay for it, you know, Yeah, no fucking doubt. Speaking of pain, remember when you remember when you got in the fight after the game. I wasn't gonna bring this up, but you brought fighting. Remember when that guy fucking popped you, dude, I thought you were going to kill it during the game. You have a Michigan state, No, bro, you want to you want a team? 02:03:35 Speaker 6: Right? 02:03:36 Speaker 2: Popped him Josh Norman. 02:03:38 Speaker 4: So I popped him like, swung on him, like swung on him. 02:03:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, you get the arrow that's right, the era. And then he swung on you. 02:03:44 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:03:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, he tapped me in the back of the helmet. 02:03:47 Speaker 4: That was you looked at him. 02:03:49 Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna eat him. 02:03:50 Speaker 2: This This is the This is the funniest clip because it's brought to. 02:03:54 Speaker 1: Me everywhere I go. I bang, and he's your greatest This is probably clip yours. Yeah, that little pat the helmet, that one got me. I was remember watching around You're about to do it. Yeah. 02:04:13 Speaker 2: But the good thing is is Ben was there because I I don't know how to like stop you once I get kind of fire. 02:04:22 Speaker 1: We had a situation this weekend. Who does that in UFC? Patan you were well, that was that was Josh's that was his move the. 02:04:29 Speaker 7: So nick I mean Josh Norman was also the guy that Derek Henry stiff armed the life out of him, and there was that viral photo of him like getting flipped backwards when. 02:04:38 Speaker 1: He played a buffet different team. 02:04:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that fourth and third and one or second four. Yeah, my little little more Derek, you got to get the first on that buddy. 02:04:53 Speaker 1: The first. 02:04:55 Speaker 4: You see you see me come alive at the end of this clip. 02:04:59 Speaker 1: Coming off the. 02:05:04 Speaker 4: That game was nuts. 02:05:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh never had a good time with us. The reason why I've told this a bunch of times, but the reason why I went over to Josh at the end of the game was because he was trying to hurt Derek in a four minutes drill. 02:05:15 Speaker 1: You and that put it down. 02:05:17 Speaker 4: Just put it down with the boys. 02:05:18 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, you can have says that you got to take that with you when you leave. Yeah right, its ude getting your ass beat. At a situation in middle school, there was this kid I can't remember his name, but I ended up like hitting him, knocking him out, and uh no, that was a different one and this kid, So the kid goes to the teachers. He goes to the teachers and he's and they were like, hey, what happened blah blah, was like, oh, nothing, a book fell and hit me. 02:05:43 Speaker 1: Like he didn't snitch it. So nothing really came of it. 02:05:46 Speaker 2: I just went to class and then in fitness class that we had this big loop is desertcating. In middle school, we had this big loop you'd go around like to warm up before like gym class, but on like one part of the loop, there was these bathrooms you'd run around the loop. So the kid was in the same class as me. 02:06:01 Speaker 1: I started on the loop. 02:06:02 Speaker 2: He's behind me and I'm aware of him back there because this happened like the day before turn around that bathroom corner. Joey Latrell and three of his friends were waiting for me and I kind of stopped and they're like, are you ready? And I was like, oh what and then one of them grabbed me put my arms behind him, and this kid came and just beat the fuck out of me for a minute, and not like an actual minute, but like it. Yeah, it was one of those where he was like throwing a couple of shots in my stomach and I was like, I'm kind of eating like a piece of He was like, don't feel pain, and then he hit me in the jaw and I was like, oh my God, holy ship, like these are so fucking bad. Please God make the stomach like they like, let me go or whatever. And yeah, that was probably the worst I ever got my ass beat in my life. 02:06:45 Speaker 1: That was tough. 02:06:46 Speaker 6: Question. 02:06:46 Speaker 1: Are you gonna be the guy the guy that says you never got your ass beat it? Yeah? 02:06:53 Speaker 4: You could tell you I'm not an asshole. 02:06:55 Speaker 1: Yeah you're not. Guy. 02:06:58 Speaker 2: I'm surprised, bro, because when you get tired, you can be grumpy. 02:07:02 Speaker 1: Not like that. 02:07:06 Speaker 4: Cody gotten a couple. I mean, yeah, you never like you guys know, you just don't want to fuck with the wrestlers. Bro, I just cycle. 02:07:13 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think all the sports they have the highest uh sixcess and buds. I'm pretty sure, there's no question. I'm pretty sure. 02:07:22 Speaker 2: You go to a wrestling house like a Michigan. You go to the wrestling house, no girls, all dudes. Bandana's on top of the head, no shirts, playing pong for about an hour and everybody's in the lawn grappling going He's a little one hundred and forty pound catching Hey you want to go? 02:07:36 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I guess. 02:07:37 Speaker 6: Also Pretzel the worst. 02:07:42 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, polar Bear he was out there last year, Bro, I mean doing both sports is insane. Who's this the polar Bear? 02:07:51 Speaker 1: Who's the Polar Bear? 02:07:53 Speaker 4: We interviewed him on the Spring Tour number zero You got you got you too. 02:08:01 Speaker 2: I've had a couple of this podcast huge safe. 02:08:04 Speaker 4: Yeah. But he he got done with a football last year and went right into wrestling. He was he wrestled How long is this pot? 02:08:10 Speaker 1: How long is this positive thing? It was just like twenty twenty eighteen? 02:08:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty eighteen? 02:08:16 Speaker 2: Was it twenty eighteen? We start twenty nineteeneteen twenty eighteens when we met, that's. 02:08:19 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. 02:08:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, the summer of twenty nineteen. 02:08:25 Speaker 1: How'd you guys decide to do? This is just this conversation and the boom, Yeah, I mean this is yeah. 02:08:30 Speaker 2: I mean the way it kind of started was we did a podcast together, the Official Titans Podcast, and we kind of had some we had some nice litt chemistry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Will brought up to Will really wanted to do it, and I was I was kind of like, it's kind of lame. 02:08:44 Speaker 4: Yet I always wanted to leave a pod. Like back in Washington days, I just thought to be sick because I was listening to like Rogan and all those positives that went on. I just always thought to be sick because there wasn't really any any pause, Like JJ Reddick did it with Basketball McAfee retires to do it with Barstool. But I just always thought it'd be cool, like all the conversations that happened in the song and the cold tub and everything else. Sure, yeah, and uh fortunately talked Taylor into doing it. 02:09:07 Speaker 6: Yeah. 02:09:07 Speaker 1: And then twenty nineteen, you guys kick off and then Barstool brings you in. 02:09:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, that happened. I was pretty signed with them in February of twenty twenty. Yeah, we had varible comes on and talks about cutting his dick off for a Super Bowl that went viral wo Jalen Ramsey talking about how we would DM wide receivers the girl their girls in college getting their head that the Jalen Ramsey one popped off for us. Barstool DMed us in like July or August and then flew out to sit and have a conversation with us on one of his off days in training camp, and then they wanted to stay in touch. We went about our seasons that year. That's when I went out to Oakland and then when we went out to the Super Bowl in Miami in February twenty twenty, Like, that's when we locked everything up and signed a partnership with them. 02:09:50 Speaker 1: Crazy or it was like two or three years at the times, and then. 02:09:54 Speaker 4: Extended with them, what a year or a couple of years ago, it'll be two years of yeah, two years. 02:10:00 Speaker 1: Rstools great man. I mean they have a great group of guys. I've been on PMT before. They're so they're so easy to talk to. 02:10:06 Speaker 4: They're like w of media, all the different personalities, like they got all the shows. 02:10:12 Speaker 1: They are they pumping, They're fucking pumping. They really now. 02:10:16 Speaker 4: They got their Q in Chicago, which is just like a fantasy factory. You've been out there New York Chicago. 02:10:22 Speaker 2: Yeah that Jerry. 02:10:23 Speaker 4: I've seen you go back and home with Jerry Jersey. 02:10:25 Speaker 1: Jerry. Yeah, we played some games together. Jerr's guy just natally tells me that he used to be a crackhead. We were like, remember that. We were loading into Call of Duty and he was just like, hey, hey, Nick, I used to be a crackhead. You know. I was like, I like looking at the camera, I was like what, you know. I couldn't believe it. It was the most nonchalant way to tell me that. Ever, he's I thought he was kidding, But there's really something to joke around about Jerry and he stuck it though. Yeah. I like Jerry. 02:10:54 Speaker 4: The bully. 02:10:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jerry is a lot of funny guys. And then they have that there's another HOMIEO man, and we followed each other Caleb guy. Yeah, yeah, conversation. They got to use it. A good team, man, it's a good roster. Yeah, a lot of good guys. I'm trying to think of somebody I don't like enjoy. You know, I'm sure there's something. 02:11:16 Speaker 2: Everything you deep enough, you'd find one. Yeah, there's so many, right, Yeah, there's a lot offer personality if somebody that go into the radar too. 02:11:22 Speaker 4: There's Frank, there's Frank the Tank. 02:11:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've definitely seen him on that. Yeah, I hate baseball and him would never get along with They don't. 02:11:28 Speaker 2: Think Yeah baseball you played though as a kid. Yeah, yeah, of course everybody. That's like the number one American thing to do is you got to play it one year t ball. That's like a bar mitzvah for an America. Have to have to got to play a year. 02:11:39 Speaker 1: That's it. That's all you gotta do. Twist. 02:11:42 Speaker 2: Let's a twist the question? How long is this podcast been going? Oh yeah, we could probably twisted question? 02:11:48 Speaker 1: Whatever you want to do? Man, sorry about being late, man, No. 02:11:52 Speaker 4: You're good. 02:11:53 Speaker 1: You're good. 02:11:53 Speaker 4: We have a twisted tea question. Twisted question brought to us by Twisting. 02:11:58 Speaker 2: Oh you're going to be I do want? I was gonna say, you want Mitch to read it? 02:12:02 Speaker 4: Read the ad? 02:12:02 Speaker 2: Another not the ad? 02:12:03 Speaker 6: The question? 02:12:04 Speaker 4: Sure Rich can read it? This question is brought to us by Twisted tea, hard refreshing tea, five percent alcohol. The best drink for tailgating summers over It is the best drink of fall. Get twisted tea. Get twisted tea with the boys. Go to basically anywhere you will find twisted tea. The boys are rocking them at tailgates every college to where we've been at, people love twisted t We're giving out bags. But the best drink for game day, whether you're watching at home, when your whether you're watching with the boys, out at the bar, out at the tailgate, get yourself a twisted tea. Keep it twisted with the boys, Mitch, what is our twisted question? 02:12:37 Speaker 6: Twisting twisted question? Today? 02:12:38 Speaker 1: Two v two? 02:12:39 Speaker 6: One million dollar tournament prize is on the line. Who is your partner and what game are you picking? 02:12:45 Speaker 1: M I like that little one mil that's a milli bron. 02:12:53 Speaker 6: All right. 02:12:55 Speaker 1: I gotta go Gears War. No, I gotta go Gears of War. Man, that's where it all be going for me. That's cardboard checks, that's fucking I was a tyrant on that game, Gears of War. I go Gears of War two, and I'm going to bring back my teammate, predator me and him Predator is the one, not the one the far right, but the next one in with the weird little foux hawk. Things got going on there. I don't know what he was thinking that. I fucking hope not. 02:13:24 Speaker 6: But I'll go. 02:13:24 Speaker 1: Me and pred TB two Gears of War two and we're cashing that fucking thing out easy money. If if there was a line on that we're the favorites by far, you're the heavy favorite. We used to do that. That's what we did. Yeah. Oh god, yeah, it's. 02:13:37 Speaker 4: Like riding a bike. It wouldn't be hard to get back. 02:13:39 Speaker 1: No, No, well, you know, give me a couple of days. 02:13:44 Speaker 2: Walk through the boys real quick is great, man. 02:13:47 Speaker 1: We've done like three partnerships with them. 02:13:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all time. 02:13:49 Speaker 1: They've sponsored like a couple of our gauntlets and stuff. They're fucking Awesome'll let you rip it too. They don't care. I love that they don't care, because when companies care too much, it like it just the creativity. 02:14:01 Speaker 4: You can't say, and then you're not you're not actually motivated to even it's the worst wanting to continue to do. 02:14:06 Speaker 1: They're not them. They let you just go. 02:14:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's here's a bonus question. Your friend gets knocked in a two v two situation, do you revive him or push the enemy duo? 02:14:19 Speaker 1: How weak are they are? They weak? 02:14:21 Speaker 4: I don't know. Let's say Predator goes down. 02:14:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, predator goes down to Well, if pred goes down and we have a guy down as well and it's just him versus me, I'm taking my one. Okay, I'm not reviving. Ever, what if it's one B two, I'm gonna try to do a lot of damage and get the reds off quick if I can, like fucking hammer one and then pick the reds real quick and then let me get it sweet. If not two, be one, man, let's go. I've done it before it. I have a senior eyes light up to your passion and the passion that I was at an MLG tournament. I was in the championship twenty K was on the line. Me and three of those guys that were in that picture, the two on the right right here and the one on the far left. We were playing for twenty K. It was against my buddy as well, who we played against all the fucking time, and he was really good. It was me versus two of them on this pillar and in Gears of War, you know you're three p so you don't see the game from your gun. You see your whole character. So you can take the camera and you can see around things. And I'm on a big pillar and they're both in front of me. It's me versus them, Dude. I worked that pillar like a stripper. Bro I was left on the right. I had him both week. I had him stuttering. They didn't know what the fucking say or do, and I just ship on both of them to keep us in it. And then we we eventually came back and we won, and then we got the whole tournament. And if I lost that to V one, we would have been done. No ship, I remember, I remember because we were fucking down big. I remember that when I when I killed both of them, everybody turned and they hooked at me. Oh shit, because you know, we with the Gears Awards kind of like S and D, so there's like a you know, you you went around, there's a big break. So we got to win on the round. Everybody went crazy on high five and Ship they all they you see look in their eyes. Everybody believed it was like it was like you're playing against a good football team, and they got the best player and your boy lit him the fuck up helmet comes off. Yeah, well we can fuck these guys up. Man, Right, that's what it was. 02:16:16 Speaker 2: Man, That's what's gonna happen in Michigan State. 02:16:19 Speaker 1: No one's gonna believe we're not that hit. I hope, So, man, hope, you need to turn. 02:16:24 Speaker 2: Your fan card the way you've been talking. 02:16:26 Speaker 1: I just I'm a sports gambler, you know. I you know I'm gonna be just still be careful betting on the boys. 02:16:31 Speaker 2: As a sports gamble, you should you should pushun't bet on the team you like. 02:16:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought we were gonna keep it close. We got fucking railed at home. It was hard, tough day for the tough day in stride. 02:16:44 Speaker 2: Totally different games, oh way, totally different game. 02:16:47 Speaker 4: Did you go money line? Did you go money line with Michigan Texas? Of course, man, that is one that you go. You believe in your squad, that's a that's a money line. 02:16:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, it got rail. It would have been so ch over in like the second it was. 02:17:00 Speaker 2: The Michigan money line is going to be so huge against the Hollow State. God, we're gonna make so much money on that day. 02:17:07 Speaker 1: I'm definitely hammering it. Are you going to Vegas? No, I don't think sphere you're gonna go. Yeah, gush, yeah, No. 02:17:13 Speaker 4: Your boys getting honored this week this weekend high school? 02:17:16 Speaker 1: Are you really? Yeah? Congrats man Congress. 02:17:20 Speaker 4: Wave wave around, hold the room, wave around. Yeah. I'm already in the Hall of Fame, just getting a little. 02:17:26 Speaker 1: I think there's a. 02:17:27 Speaker 4: Sign, you know, first first ballot, fish round right when they opened it up. But I think sign put up. You know something, I don't want to Compton stum. I don't want to say too much about it. You guys know, I hate bragging. 02:17:42 Speaker 1: Yeah this you you're having a month bro having you see. 02:17:45 Speaker 4: That museum that Will comp The museum just opened last week. I bet I did see the music. It was a great tour in the last Thursday. 02:17:53 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:17:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of a lot of memorabilia. The backstall in the bathroom is the Will Compton Museum at Barcelage. 02:18:00 Speaker 1: You in Chicago, you gotta watch your pictures of him tolet Yeah, we'll be adding to it Will Confidence shirts. Hell. 02:18:08 Speaker 4: Yeah that is forever. Oh yeah, big month, big month. Birthdays this month. Oh my god, I know what the fuck is a great month? 02:18:17 Speaker 1: Is a great month? I did I did one. I did one of those. 02:18:22 Speaker 4: My ship was spinning, remember that, Lucy's. 02:18:25 Speaker 1: I put one up top and then I put another one down low at the UFCA. My ship was spinning. Remember that good time. 02:18:34 Speaker 4: It's a good time. Yeah, fellas. When it comes to getting your haircut, don't just go anywhere. Visit the specialists who live and breathe men's hair and at sport Clips, haircut stylists undergo special training to be the experts in men's hair making, the masters of mullets, finesss of fades, and understudies of the undercut. It's easy to have confidence in your look when you're in the hands of a pro. Just another way, sport Clips helps keep you your head and your hair in the game. Sport Clips it is a game changer. Back to the episode, to your talk vintage gaming consoles. I love to pick this week's Sure, I've already got mine? Do we have a sponsor on Tier Talk? 02:19:17 Speaker 1: Are we good? 02:19:19 Speaker 4: Are you familiar with tiar talk? 02:19:20 Speaker 1: No? Tier one, two three? 02:19:22 Speaker 4: If you got an honorable mention, go ahead and sling that in there. Okay, but you'll start a tier three. Work your way up to one, but ultimately it's your top three. 02:19:29 Speaker 2: And also, don't just name them like paint us a picture. Why it is Tier three? 02:19:32 Speaker 1: Tier three vintage gaming consoles, you guys start no way, Okay, I kind of don't know. Yah. 02:19:40 Speaker 2: Obviously we've already proven that I'm not a massive gamer. However, as a child, I enjoyed plugging it in, sitting on my ground, crisscross applesauce and playing some games. So this is what I'm gonna dive into the nostalgia category. My Tier three is going to go to the og Xbox. Now, there's a lot of people like to but mounce back and forth between Xbox the PlayStation. For whatever reason, because of Halo, Xbox was my game. I just I really enjoyed it. It was like it was a mind that experienced to have Xbox. There, you get the green and the little thing pops up the x You're like. 02:20:12 Speaker 1: Oh, you're about to really do it. 02:20:15 Speaker 2: Put in your little time, You're ready to go, and then do. 02:20:17 Speaker 1: You remember Xbox Connect. It was like the first Xbox Live. 02:20:20 Speaker 2: Before Live they had the bar, right, No, okay, then no, I don't that was all tell me that doesn't make you get fired up. 02:20:28 Speaker 1: That was also Connect though, He's right, Okay, maybe that's a game okay, but Connect with the c Oka. It was Xbox Live before Xbox Live. That's how you know your crackhead. If you know what that is, you were, you were crackhead. Sorry. 02:20:40 Speaker 2: So that's my Tier three Xbox. My Tier two is game Boy Color. 02:20:46 Speaker 1: I think the game Boy that a console. Yeah it is. It's a pocket console, okay, absolutely, double a batteries and changes. The game had the purple c through. 02:20:57 Speaker 2: You can see all the things, Pokemon, the weird little lights, you can see it, Pokemon, yellow Link, all that bro. 02:21:04 Speaker 1: That game. 02:21:05 Speaker 2: You catch a little break in elementary school, you'd be able to pull that thing out of your pocket, pop it on real quick. Get that wire that was way too short, yeah, public school. 02:21:12 Speaker 1: That's the light. 02:21:13 Speaker 2: The light, yeah, the little light at night time. But there was also a little cord that was probably five inches. That's way more than five inches, like seven to eight inches long, and you'd be able to plug it in. Turn that cadabran into an alexaxam because you can evolve through trades. 02:21:28 Speaker 1: Bro. 02:21:28 Speaker 2: You get that thing done in the sand in the playground at elementary school. You're showing all the boys to pull se what you got, and then my Tier one is going to go. This is my god tier and I've already mentioned it once. That's gonna go to the Nintendo sixty four maybe the greatest. Like we've all been in a place where the game's not working. You have to pull it out and give it. 02:21:47 Speaker 4: The yeah, put it back in. 02:21:49 Speaker 2: Then it gets a little bit older, so you have to go back into the left. You have the JFK that thing the way you have to move it just to get the thing to turn on Super Smash, Brother Golden Eye before. Huh, Yeah, I would like those things. 02:22:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were great, but they were weird. Dude, right that left out one. 02:22:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mario sixty four it was just what. 02:22:12 Speaker 1: Was the greatest end sixty four game? You think the best one good for Super Smash, but if you're playing Super Smash, great pick to star Fox dude was also incredible. Fox. Remember you could fight your boys in the fucking plane. Remember Club Brett farv Nfelt Blitz. I remember that one, but it's two thousands. Blitz was people love. 02:22:35 Speaker 2: Yes, and the game always had a way of like just equaling things out. 02:22:38 Speaker 1: I feel like way better. 02:22:39 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you'd have fumbles, interceptions. It should just go your way, just kept every zeld. I never got into I don't know why. 02:22:47 Speaker 1: It's one of those games where if you gave it some patience, it's fucking incredible, really beautiful game. You go back and playing now, so it's it's still kind of fun. 02:22:54 Speaker 2: My wife played this game, you know about it, the one where you like have a little community of a garden and oh yeah, Harvest Moon, Harvest play sorry valley. 02:23:03 Speaker 1: Game making a little farm. 02:23:06 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, run dude, you hit the double tap, hit a spin. 02:23:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great list, and sixty four is definitely yeah, it's hard to beat. Yeah. 02:23:21 Speaker 2: Oh so for tear talk, now, we'll go around the room and we'll do one word to describe how we feel about the individual who just wants to tear talk. 02:23:27 Speaker 1: Okay, amazing, thank you, incredible and I'm blown away that you knew all that. 02:23:32 Speaker 6: Thank you, Burroll, Barrol Nostalgic. 02:23:39 Speaker 1: Research Solid. 02:23:42 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about. 02:23:48 Speaker 2: If all right, what's what do you all want to go? 02:23:52 Speaker 4: I'm going to kick it off, man game Boy really changed the game for me. Game Boys is gonna my honorable mention. My Tier three is going to go to my first love of video games, and that is the Sega Genesis. I got Madden. It was either Mad ninety five or Mad ninety six. That was the first console I got for Christmas that my eyes just lit up and I fell in love with video games. They would have this combine that you could do where you're tapping B and C. It's like this boxing where you're trying to take out Evander Holdfield Mike Tyson where you're battling him. 02:24:25 Speaker 1: What was that? 02:24:26 Speaker 4: What was that one where you're trying to your back's. 02:24:28 Speaker 1: I remember the boxing game. It was incredible. 02:24:31 Speaker 4: They are a cross from in your little back and you're kind of just dodging the whole time. It might have been like Mike Tyson or something like. 02:24:36 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was incredible. I remember Ali Tyson holy Field. Yeah, yeah, what was. 02:24:41 Speaker 4: This Madden calls that ninety five Madden ninety six. But that is when I fell fell in love with video games. My Tier two is going to go to the PlayStation two when you could you know, that's when you had memory cards I know you had it on Xbox. I was never an original Xbox I was a PlayStation two cat. I'm thinking to myself, Game Day ninety seven, Game Day ninety eight. Every year on my birthday, I would get to skip school, go to work with my dad. He'd take a half day. Then we'd go to Toys r Us. I'd get the latest edition of Game Day. We'd go home, and then for the rest of time, we would just play a season with the Dallas Cowboys with each other. And then also like PlayStation two is I was nice on a WWE, I was nice on That's when NC double A. I want to say it was like two thousand and four, when the lights would start to shine off the helmet and you just remembered the evolution of the video game industry would start to take plays, starting to get that they were starting to evolve. Yeah, yeah, n C Double A two, Who's that Carson Palmer? And then also Grand Theft Auto came out as an extricution, Yes, man crash. 02:25:54 Speaker 1: What was it like? 02:25:55 Speaker 4: Not Supercross, but it was like where they had them both together versus ATV versus eighteen Unleash, Like just phenomenal video games are in that generation. In my Tier one I shared with Taylor The Ends, The End, sixty four Harvest Moon. I lived and died by uh Pokemon where you could plug that, you could plug, you could slide in the game. They had like a little Pokemon stadium. Wait they take the picture Pokemon Stadium. 02:26:18 Speaker 1: That's Pokemon. 02:26:19 Speaker 4: But you could also play in Pokemont Stadium. You could connect. There's like something with memory on the car. You could slide in your game boy. You were Pokemon game and you could face people with the squad you had on the game. Was a Pokemon guy, Yeah, big Pokemon guy, massive cards won I won a badge what was the very first one with it with brock and Onyx Pewter Pewter City Badge, Boulder Badge. I won a Boulder badge at a flea market back in the early days. Your Boy was nice. 02:26:46 Speaker 1: Were a Pokemon Guy? 02:26:47 Speaker 6: Cracked? 02:26:48 Speaker 4: And then Double O seven my favorite. 02:26:50 Speaker 1: Oh it's great. 02:26:51 Speaker 4: Double seven. Double seven was like my favorite game. 02:26:53 Speaker 1: Of this week this week. Talking about where you plug it in Pokemon stadium, Yeah, you could. You could fight other Pokemon that little sixty. 02:26:59 Speaker 4: Four transfer pack. Whatever you had on the game boy, Like when he said yellow red blue. Whatever, you slide that in, you get the roster you got on your game Boy playing Pokemon stadium with. 02:27:11 Speaker 1: You never that, Yeah, you could upload your Pokemon broy I remember is the Pokemon picture one? I thought that was kind of I thought it was kind of like the Pokemon Snap. Yeah, you go around slow and try to take you know, the rare pictures. 02:27:22 Speaker 6: Right. 02:27:24 Speaker 2: I went through a little like but that a little phase like a year ago where they had these little apps where people would be streaming like opening games, opening Pokemon cards, and I bought a few of them things, got myself some charge. 02:27:37 Speaker 1: Arts, dude I had, and we sold it for three hundred bucks. 02:27:41 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I bet it's we're so much money. 02:27:47 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I hated the poke he probably called them pokey man. 02:27:51 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Pokemon yeah, Pokemon snap. 02:27:58 Speaker 4: I never got on board my my tear talk. 02:28:01 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, Tier three for me. I'll agree with words words for one word. I'm sorry, okay, I'll start. I guess are you start so surprising? Man like you? I can't believe the Pokemon. 02:28:16 Speaker 2: Sorry Pokemon mm hmm. 02:28:23 Speaker 1: Jolty on oh wow, sports. 02:28:29 Speaker 4: Solid interesting. 02:28:33 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Char Yeah, you said it right too. All righto old school hyphenated. 02:28:40 Speaker 6: There you go. 02:28:41 Speaker 1: Also, you guys use hyphenated to get around the one word. Yeah, make sure I do that next time. Uh. Tier three probably the game Boy. You guys bring up great points. I mean that was what first got everybody into it. I used to get in so much trouble playing that ship. You'd see the light on from the crack of the door. He bust open that door and what are you doing? Man, had that little light on there. And I tried to cover it with with with the thing real quick, you know, and never got away with it. Yeah. That that game Boy, but the see through game Boy, specifically the one where I can see all the way that was put together, the wires and the I just used to love looking in that thing. Man. Yeah, it was cracked. Yeah sorry. 02:29:16 Speaker 3: Uh. 02:29:17 Speaker 1: And then tier tier two I'll probably go with I'll probably go with the original Xbox because that's what got me into competitive gaming, and that was when people would download Xbox Connect on the PC was a program on your PC, and then you could play people in Halo, the first Halo around the World, and me and my buddy would load up on two B two Halo one and we beat Nass, so I got I got real twisted at that and then that's Tier two. But Tier one the greatest console of all time. I don't think it's debatable. It's the three to sixty. You got Gears of War, Call of Duty, and Halo all on that console, and arguably all the best games from each from each one. Not only that, but they had the best controller of any of any controller in the history of gaming. The three sixty controller was next level. And that was when you They came out with this thing. You can make your own avatar, like a character of yourself, and you could customize it. You had like a bio. I put like my placings in that. Then you had like a list where you could add people to the list. I'd make people pay to ad me because I was so good, so he wove in my list. It would be a flex. You have me on the list, so you pay me one hundred bucks, I'll add you for the whole year. I was doing that fuck scummy weirdship. I was doing summy hey business man, business business. Yeah that was the dashboard, man, look at your little guy man. It's crazy, but yeah, Gears of War one, Gears of War two, Call of Duty for the Modern Warfare and the modern warfares, and then Halo Massive Halo three came out on that one, and that's Halo two and Halo three, I mean two K arguably the best Halos two k's as well, Grand Theft Auto, I mean, you name it. It was on the three sixty, and it just it took gameing to a whole other level in my opinion, and the next Xbox didn't do it for me. You know, it was like a bad sequel, like the x rest one. Yeah, the three sixty was way better than the next one. I don't. Yeah, I agree with you, okay with that said my word horny, Yeah. 02:31:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, pro. 02:31:25 Speaker 1: Legendary, Yeah, unreal the day in the words, it's the winner cash cracked. 02:31:35 Speaker 6: And I agree. 02:31:37 Speaker 4: I figored you're right about You're right about the three sixty, like the hours put in on the three sixties, I mean Red Dead one, that's. 02:31:44 Speaker 2: Where red no, no, no, The first the first dead was. 02:31:50 Speaker 1: Red Dead Revolver, right right, right. 02:31:52 Speaker 4: But that was on three sixty. It might have been on Xbox too, but I'm saying Red Dead Redemption one came out of the three sixties. Maybe like that series wanted to throw back to the mart. But you're right, like the Xbox three sixty is the greatest console of all. 02:32:08 Speaker 1: Time and the controller underrated. Man, like they started, Remember the next one for the Xbox is fucking huge and weird. But the three. 02:32:15 Speaker 4: Still with those PlayStation motherfuckers though about it being better. I was a guy who transitioned from PlayStation to to three sixty. It took a little time, but once I did, I saw. 02:32:23 Speaker 1: The Like I went from Xbox to PlayStation because competitive Call of Duty did so we had to. We couldn't compete, right, so kind of weird. I probably wouldn't say at Xbox it's just better, way better. Okay, Hey, this like the tears, Man, this has been like the credible podcast. It's been a great one. I appreciate you guys for having me. Man, you know, the bus is real. The bus is real, and it shakes, man, it moves. Yeah, when we get this is an awesome. 02:32:49 Speaker 4: Pot Having your old man on your brother. Yeah, having that chime man shout out brother, you know what I mean. But that's gonna be juice when we're on the wrestling segment. He's gonna be at home because he watches every Wednesday, every Tuesday. 02:33:01 Speaker 1: Your dad and his dad probably get along. There's no question. 02:33:05 Speaker 2: I don't know a man that wouldn't get along with Bill. 02:33:07 Speaker 1: Make it out there. 02:33:08 Speaker 4: You have to figure it out. You got to struggle with him flying, getting through the airport. 02:33:14 Speaker 1: Can't go Why what's the deal? I was gonna? 02:33:16 Speaker 2: I want to bring that back up. 02:33:17 Speaker 1: Whyn't you over? I'm full swing right now at home and I'm streaming a lot. It's a lot, It's a lot right now. That's get football. Yeah, man, yeah, going about to Vegas. 02:33:27 Speaker 2: How many times now I've been out in two months? 02:33:29 Speaker 6: Oh wow? 02:33:30 Speaker 2: I mentioned Okay, literally I was gonna fly out Thursday, Like in the morning. Will texted me, he was like, you want to do football show on Thursday? And I'm like, you gotta say yes. You can't just say no. 02:33:44 Speaker 1: Just go to Vegas five hours earlier, Like, I gotta say yes to it. So you have your podcast and you're also doing a new show now. 02:33:51 Speaker 4: The locker room that is where we preview the week is pro football. That's barstool, Yeah, Bartools Pro Football Football show. That's just strictly NFL. The locker room we do both college football and the NFL where we're gambling. We're making our picks for previewing the weekend, talking all ball. Take a the top of this episode when we kind of recapped the weekend and just talked about our teams. Last year we were try and cover a lot more, but now we're putting everything into the locker. 02:34:17 Speaker 1: Room like sports're putting on there. Yeah, yeah, very cool. 02:34:20 Speaker 2: When we when we're done, we'll show you the studio, the set that we made. 02:34:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got turned off all lights so it's perfect. Sick you like it? But it is sweet? Bro, Thank you man. 02:34:31 Speaker 4: I know we've been trying for a minute, but I appreciate you. We appreciate you guys. 02:34:38 Speaker 1: I mean, Jack's my boy, the whole crew man. You know you guys are you guys are fucking awesome? Keep on doing your thing, man. Best of like the podcast stuff is cool, Man's grassroots turns me on that boy right now. It's a it's a play of passion. 02:34:54 Speaker 4: You play you play college football? Twenty five? 02:34:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'm not very You do me fair before you go? You signed this helmet? 02:35:01 Speaker 1: Yeah? What is he? Number three? Are we loading this thing up? 02:35:07 Speaker 4: Yeah? 02:35:07 Speaker 1: Who do we go right there? You go. 02:35:10 Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys. 02:35:10 Speaker 1: Saw that one. 02:35:11 Speaker 4: Subscribe, leave comments, yes, sir, big. 02:35:15 Speaker 1: Old love you guys. Real ones up here man, Real ones.
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