Ep:172 Proof of the LBL Dogman

<v Speaker 1>That's when it really hit and kicked in. On the film,
<v Speaker 1>you hear us stammering, our words are mixed. We tried
<v Speaker 1>our best to lose the thing. You always think that
<v Speaker 1>you're prepared, but you're never prepared when it hits. When
<v Speaker 1>it's there, it's there, and you never know when. When
<v Speaker 1>we got back, that's when it really starts syncing in.
<v Speaker 1>It took me a month to even say I knew
<v Speaker 1>that it was some kind of cryptid, and I'm still
<v Speaker 1>actually processing it all because if you believe in one cryptid,
<v Speaker 1>how can you not believe that? In the rest.
<v Speaker 2>Friends of Ours was invited to uh LBL for a outing,
<v Speaker 2>and it was gonna be the weekend of March fifteenth,
<v Speaker 2>and we didn't know at the time it was gonna
<v Speaker 2>be this monsoon gale of hailstorms and what it rained
<v Speaker 2>and the whole thing. We didn't know it was gonna be,
<v Speaker 2>I guess a rainy season like it is today. But
<v Speaker 2>uh so they invited us to go meet them up there.
<v Speaker 2>So we're from Louisiana, kind of mid mid Louisiana. So
<v Speaker 2>we decided we h we wanted to do that, and
<v Speaker 2>we got a cabin and so we're both retired, and uh,
<v Speaker 2>we just took off a little early, a day early,
<v Speaker 2>and we was going stay in West Memphis, and so
<v Speaker 2>we rolled into West Memphis, got a phone calls that
<v Speaker 2>they canceled the the meet and greet, and uh so
<v Speaker 2>when we got to the room, I went head to
<v Speaker 2>contacted all our immediate party that we was gonna be
<v Speaker 2>with and uh see if they still wanted to do it,
<v Speaker 2>and they said, yeah, we're all coming. So we just
<v Speaker 2>continued on the next morning to h LBL and it
<v Speaker 2>was windy and it was we got we've got into
<v Speaker 2>our cabin, got settled in, and we met a few
<v Speaker 2>folks who started coming in. We the people was coming
<v Speaker 2>started rolling in and we we got there. That was
<v Speaker 2>on a Friday, and that would be the fourteenth, I think,
<v Speaker 2>So we uh, everything went all right. The weather hadn't
<v Speaker 2>got real bad. So when we got up, made a
<v Speaker 2>few rounds and went looking for daytime and for tracks
<v Speaker 2>and just just that and the other here there and yonder.
<v Speaker 2>And then the nighttime came and we went out, made
<v Speaker 2>a little thurmb around and the reason why we were
<v Speaker 2>going in this area, we'd been there kind of scoped
<v Speaker 2>it out before the year before, and there was lots
<v Speaker 2>of game in the area, and that would be you know,
<v Speaker 2>if it's anything out there due to all the game
<v Speaker 2>that we were seeing in the area, that that would
<v Speaker 2>be a good prospect for feeing something. Not necessarily anything particular,
<v Speaker 2>but we're just going to see what we can see
<v Speaker 2>and not expecting to see anything that may or may
<v Speaker 2>not in what we captured. But anyway, so we get there,
<v Speaker 2>we do that, and the next day we spend a
<v Speaker 2>little time when the weather breaks out and about looking
<v Speaker 2>and stuff and so that eating we went to eat,
<v Speaker 2>and then we come back. I said, at this point,
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, well, if we don't go now, tomorrow is
<v Speaker 2>going home day. We ain't no, but we are not
<v Speaker 2>going to get to look at this thermals. I had
<v Speaker 2>a brand new thing one my friend to sy in action.
<v Speaker 2>So we took off about tennish at night, heading out
<v Speaker 2>and so this paths gonna take over from here.
<v Speaker 1>Well, there was about eight there was like seven of
<v Speaker 1>us that decided to uh get together at the cabin
<v Speaker 1>and stay. One of the wives became sick, so she
<v Speaker 1>was unable to go out with us. Uh, So there
<v Speaker 1>wasn't enough room in one vehicle. So what we did
<v Speaker 1>is we split it up. There was three in one
<v Speaker 1>truck and three in another. Well, Bud our friend wanted
<v Speaker 1>was interested in the scope. So what I was sitting
<v Speaker 1>in the back seat behind Joe to basically to my left,
<v Speaker 1>and what we were doing is we were we were
<v Speaker 1>trading back and forth with the thermal scanning out there.
<v Speaker 1>There was a break in the weather, a lot of humidity,
<v Speaker 1>so we had to adjust the camera a little bit
<v Speaker 1>as well. We saw a lot of deer. Uh, there
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of game out. We even saw like
<v Speaker 1>a coyote hunt. They were hunting a deer. Saw that
<v Speaker 1>in action. And we were driving down through the bottoms there,
<v Speaker 1>which is a lot of corn fields and then there's
<v Speaker 1>a lot of forested area. So we were windy and
<v Speaker 1>twisty roads all through the all through the road and
<v Speaker 1>we come around a corner and there was a bend
<v Speaker 1>in the road and it was along the hillside which
<v Speaker 1>was all forested. The other side had it appeared to
<v Speaker 1>be like a bottom where it is like cornfield or whatever.
<v Speaker 1>We did find out later on that it was a
<v Speaker 1>cornfield and there was a creek running along there, so
<v Speaker 1>there was a wooded area there as well, but at
<v Speaker 1>a at a short distance away, I saw I had
<v Speaker 1>the thermal and I saw a I picked up a
<v Speaker 1>heat signature, and I said, hey, I've got something. And
<v Speaker 1>it was probably maybe one hundred and seventy five yards
<v Speaker 1>two hundred yards away, uh, And it was standing behind
<v Speaker 1>the woodline that was up against the road, and I
<v Speaker 1>could see movements, and they had and the thermal is, yes, yes,
<v Speaker 1>well the normal it has Wi Fi capabilities is what
<v Speaker 1>it is. So everything that I saw, they were able
<v Speaker 1>to see on their phone, the phone on as well
<v Speaker 1>that he had on the dash, so they saw the
<v Speaker 1>movement too, and it was moving behind the woodline there,
<v Speaker 1>right at the creek. So we sped up real quick
<v Speaker 1>and we stopped and we were right across from it.
<v Speaker 1>We're guessing we were probably seventy yards away. There was
<v Speaker 1>no leaves on the trees because this was the middle
<v Speaker 1>of March, so it was easy to see through the
<v Speaker 1>through the woodline, and it appeared to be standing on
<v Speaker 1>the other side of a creek. H And what happened
<v Speaker 1>was what happened. It was hiding behind a bush. It
<v Speaker 1>appeared to be hiding behind a bush, and it stood
<v Speaker 1>there for probably I would say fifteen seconds, and it
<v Speaker 1>turned around and it stepped out, and it's at this
<v Speaker 1>point it squared up at us, and I knew we
<v Speaker 1>had had something that was rather big anyway, and we
<v Speaker 1>knew that it wasn't human. At this point, it was
<v Speaker 1>standing on two legs. It appeared to have ears. It
<v Speaker 1>had like a lion's mane around its neck, long arms,
<v Speaker 1>and it was a little bit hard to tell how
<v Speaker 1>tall it was because the only line of sight was
<v Speaker 1>through the camera because there was there was no light
<v Speaker 1>that you couldn't even see. So my concern was was
<v Speaker 1>also for our safety because I was the only line
<v Speaker 1>of sight in case this thing decided to come across
<v Speaker 1>the creek. Stood there and watched us. Everything was slow,
<v Speaker 1>calculated movements. It turned to the right, it turned to
<v Speaker 1>the left. We sat there probably ten minutes filming. We
<v Speaker 1>were filming the entire time, and Bud, the passenger, he
<v Speaker 1>decided to get out and take the thermal. He was
<v Speaker 1>going to walk towards it and try and get a
<v Speaker 1>better look. Well, when he stepped out of the truck
<v Speaker 1>and he took the thermal from me, it turned and
<v Speaker 1>it was appearing to try and hide and as he
<v Speaker 1>took a step off the road into the field, the cornfield,
<v Speaker 1>he stepped in mud up to his ankle and he
<v Speaker 1>decided not to go. Thank goodness, we don't recommend you
<v Speaker 1>doing any of this. As we look back at it,
<v Speaker 1>it was a bad It was a bad idea. You
<v Speaker 1>don't you don't go after them like that. Anything could
<v Speaker 1>have happened to us at this point. And it had
<v Speaker 1>turned and we can we're filming still. We can see
<v Speaker 1>it and we're watching it. Watch him. Uh And so
<v Speaker 1>finally he got back into the truck, he decided not
<v Speaker 1>to go over. He handed the camera back to me.
<v Speaker 1>It turned back around and faced us again. It stood there, turning,
<v Speaker 1>just watching us. We heard nothing. I'm not sure if
<v Speaker 1>there was others at that point. I did scan the woodline.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see anything. We tried our best to lose
<v Speaker 1>this thing with moving around the camera all over the place,
<v Speaker 1>just different just different moves like that, and talking. And
<v Speaker 1>what we did is we decided to go ahead and
<v Speaker 1>go that it was time to go. And as we
<v Speaker 1>were driving off, we could see that there was more
<v Speaker 1>than one that was moving as we As we started
<v Speaker 1>to go off, and Joe can finished with that.
<v Speaker 2>Now you got to take in my mind that that
<v Speaker 2>we come up here on this on this vertical figure.
<v Speaker 2>So we've been looking and she's been looking at deer,
<v Speaker 2>been looking kyots and all that's horizontal. When you look
<v Speaker 2>for something with thermal it's on four legs. You'd be
<v Speaker 2>looking for the back line first, you know that's the
<v Speaker 2>way it is, and then you're and but we ran
<v Speaker 2>a corner and did this. The signature is up. We're
<v Speaker 2>watching it on my phone. I got what we're talking
<v Speaker 2>on right now, the driver or which is mate, shotgun man,
<v Speaker 2>which is Bud. We're all watching the phone. It's also
<v Speaker 2>on the on the dash up by the way the
<v Speaker 2>windshield so you can see out the windshiel also or
<v Speaker 2>she's doing all the femine from the back seat on
<v Speaker 2>my side behind the driver. And what I got is
<v Speaker 2>at twenty five about three eighty four agen rather two
<v Speaker 2>rifle scope. Thermal scope is what it actually is. It
<v Speaker 2>wasn't It was a swar on a handheld situation. As
<v Speaker 2>we come up to it, she she sees a big signature,
<v Speaker 2>looks real big or it's multiples and so we he's
<v Speaker 2>on up a little ways up the road and kind
<v Speaker 2>of got across from it, and then all you see
<v Speaker 2>is it's something there. You can see the outline, but
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard to see, and we're picking that up,
<v Speaker 2>and then we're looking around a little bit and then
<v Speaker 2>we get locked on. We get the filming. She's getting
<v Speaker 2>me lined up to film, and I'm turning on the
<v Speaker 2>on the phone and I got the working set of
<v Speaker 2>it on the phone to work the zoom, and they
<v Speaker 2>turn the film on and all the camera recorder on,
<v Speaker 2>so it's actually recording, but I'm doing the handwork on
<v Speaker 2>the phone. It goes from being away from us after
<v Speaker 2>we sit there a while and it gets tired of
<v Speaker 2>waiting on us to leave. I guess figuring that we've
<v Speaker 2>been busted. And it turns real slow, takes a step
<v Speaker 2>down the hill and what you see is a white
<v Speaker 2>outline that you see, uh, way more illuminated than it
<v Speaker 2>was when his back was start where it was behind
<v Speaker 2>bushes or it was it had fur blocking some of it,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it was when it turns the
<v Speaker 2>stuff down that hill, you can plainly see different parts
<v Speaker 2>of this thing lit up. We went back a month
<v Speaker 2>later and we done best we could to recreate where
<v Speaker 2>we were at, and we cut close. We didn't get
<v Speaker 2>exactly on it. And I went out there. I'm six
<v Speaker 2>to my buddy's budd he's six too. We both went out.
<v Speaker 2>We were throwing him from the truck. I was actually
<v Speaker 2>running from my phone in my hand Seidney yards away.
<v Speaker 2>I was actually doing the pictures myself, and so we
<v Speaker 2>took several pictures. You could see the phone in my
<v Speaker 2>hands in the distance it would and that's alignment of
<v Speaker 2>distance about where we thought we were at. The creature
<v Speaker 2>appears to be maybe a little further out when we were,
<v Speaker 2>or basically somewhere in the same line. But it ain't
<v Speaker 2>exactly in the right place, I don't think. And that
<v Speaker 2>night was so much fog in that bottom and rain
<v Speaker 2>and moisture in the air. It's just like a grayish
<v Speaker 2>looking gloom. Well, in the daytime pictures is clear and
<v Speaker 2>that you can see a lot better sturmol of course,
<v Speaker 2>but it's still a lot clearer than it was the
<v Speaker 2>night we took that picture. It's a month later, foliage
<v Speaker 2>was out more and uh so we did go back
<v Speaker 2>to recon it and we we look at this thing
<v Speaker 2>for ken Lenning solid on recording and it's people's got out.
<v Speaker 2>The other three people showed up out it, you know,
<v Speaker 2>a few minutes into this they one of them, the
<v Speaker 2>driver gets out. They don't really see with his thumball
<v Speaker 2>what we're seeing. And the other people stayed in the
<v Speaker 2>truck unaware what was really going on. And uh so
<v Speaker 2>we buddy gotten out and it was telling him where
<v Speaker 2>it was at and what he was looking at, and
<v Speaker 2>uh trying to get a perspective for maybe how big
<v Speaker 2>it was from from the distance we was there that night.
<v Speaker 2>And uh, like I said that it moved back and
<v Speaker 2>forth at times where it would just turn right hand,
<v Speaker 2>left hand back to us. We didn't know the whole time.
<v Speaker 2>It had different signatures around it, but you just didn't
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't make them out. There may be a glipse
<v Speaker 2>or something. You didn't know whether it was where it
<v Speaker 2>was just a white glitch in the you know, in
<v Speaker 2>the woods, or it was actually something there. You couldn't tell.
<v Speaker 2>So we stopped the camera about ten minutes in. She said, well,
<v Speaker 2>what are you talking, Well, I don't know that. Well,
<v Speaker 2>so it started back, so we started back up. We
<v Speaker 2>went to running again for another six minutes and toward
<v Speaker 2>the end of six minutes, I was thinking, I want
<v Speaker 2>to see if we can move up, to see if
<v Speaker 2>he'll move. Well, I was on the break the whole
<v Speaker 2>time because I didn't know it was going to last
<v Speaker 2>this long. I just thought, you know it might last.
<v Speaker 2>Most times, these things don't last but a second and
<v Speaker 2>they're gone. And I was on the break the whole time.
<v Speaker 2>So I said, well, get back on it. She said, well,
<v Speaker 2>let me get up. Let's get a spot where we
<v Speaker 2>pick out where we where we're at. We come back,
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna recon and say we'll be able to tell
<v Speaker 2>where we're at. So they were doing that. They kind
<v Speaker 2>of got eyeball on a couple of things, and I said,
<v Speaker 2>we'll get back on it, and I'm gonna ease up. Well,
<v Speaker 2>roll that off the break. It's quake. Well, it's quack.
<v Speaker 2>By then it already moved up. Either truck had moved
<v Speaker 2>or it had moved up. Well, I looked months later,
<v Speaker 2>and right in front of it down the road by stave,
<v Speaker 2>it's waste. Put three steps in front of it. You
<v Speaker 2>see a little dim signature and when you slow it
<v Speaker 2>down and you get your looking that signature in the
<v Speaker 2>front is a different, whole different thing with the original creature.
<v Speaker 2>When it starts walking down the hill, I couldn't figure
<v Speaker 2>out for long it's why it did it, because it
<v Speaker 2>could have went the other way. But it starts walking
<v Speaker 2>down the bybank, and the little one takes off walking
<v Speaker 2>in front of it. Then you start to see four
<v Speaker 2>leggs walking to the front of the up half the
<v Speaker 2>size of the body of the of the of the
<v Speaker 2>original creature. Well about that time, it's another signature that
<v Speaker 2>goes left to right. It's a lot bigger than the
<v Speaker 2>the original creature, and it's cutting across the screen. It
<v Speaker 2>stays on the same parallel all the way across all
<v Speaker 2>three of the creatures that we think we're seeing. That
<v Speaker 2>could be more than three, but I'm just saying three.
<v Speaker 2>They go behind a big tree and they angle off
<v Speaker 2>up up the bank and off at angle at a
<v Speaker 2>forty five or so down the creek away from us,
<v Speaker 2>and disappeared just as fast as you think you know
<v Speaker 2>they could. And all this is happening while we pulling
<v Speaker 2>the vehicle up when they were walking off. We're getting
<v Speaker 2>this on recording, and it takes a while through the
<v Speaker 2>looking and looking and looking, going back and looking at
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. Well, you really don't know how many signatures
<v Speaker 2>because different oranges panning the camera, we could get little
<v Speaker 2>spots and stuff. We don't know how many, but we
<v Speaker 2>definitely seen three different creatures walk off, a middle sizing
<v Speaker 2>or or the original one, a smaller one and a
<v Speaker 2>bigger one walks off. Well, uh, we we eased up,
<v Speaker 2>like I say, and then when they walked off, we didn't.
<v Speaker 2>We just kept on ease on off. We didn't stop
<v Speaker 2>and try to cut them off or do anything. We
<v Speaker 2>just seized on off. Were the people behind us sized off?
<v Speaker 2>Behind us, We just stayed going ten mile an hour.
<v Speaker 2>We just throwling along the way. We didn't see them
<v Speaker 2>no more. And uh, we just kept on going and
<v Speaker 2>we went made around, went by the main thoroughfare and
<v Speaker 2>by the Buffalo fields, and we throw them out. There
<v Speaker 2>went two or three more places. We got on about
<v Speaker 2>midnight or so, and people say, well, how you know
<v Speaker 2>we seen something? We knew we had something, but we
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what we had, and it didn't dawn on
<v Speaker 2>us till till later. It didn't dawn on me just
<v Speaker 2>a while back that we probably if they were rushed us,
<v Speaker 2>we we haven't got it may and I got out
<v Speaker 2>of there. If it had been more of them and
<v Speaker 2>they were rustius, we may not even got out of there.
<v Speaker 2>It's just you didn't know because they didn't They didn't
<v Speaker 2>do aggression, but they were in a little like a
<v Speaker 2>group situation where they just couldn't break and get out
<v Speaker 2>of there without losing a little one or something. And
<v Speaker 2>it was a whole different. The thing had had a
<v Speaker 2>showed intelligence and patience, and you know, it thought it
<v Speaker 2>was here that send me something yards when I went
<v Speaker 2>over and looked at it. It's no anvy at light
<v Speaker 2>was reaching them from a car. The only reason why
<v Speaker 2>we got them was because of the family in the
<v Speaker 2>woodline along that creek. It was just a small croup
<v Speaker 2>of rois along the creek. You couldn't see. You could
<v Speaker 2>see the vehicle through that, but you couldn't see. There's
<v Speaker 2>no way it thought we was gonna see it. If
<v Speaker 2>it hadn't, we hadn't had time. It was we've been
<v Speaker 2>no way it let us drove right on by, and
<v Speaker 2>they thought it we were gonna drive on by, but
<v Speaker 2>we did, and that's for it's to our luck. It
<v Speaker 2>stayed put and stayed out there for a long time
<v Speaker 2>and stayed kind of froze. I guess it was hung
<v Speaker 2>out with having a little one running around there and
<v Speaker 2>a bigger one. Uh, there were several. Like I said,
<v Speaker 2>there at least three signature walked off. It was it
<v Speaker 2>was something to behold for for we would we were
<v Speaker 2>now to look for, you know, thinking we're gonna get
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. But we thought we might seek something, but
<v Speaker 2>it was it was something, uh that we didn't intend
<v Speaker 2>to see. Didn't realize what kind of danger we could
<v Speaker 2>be in. But it's there, It's real, and it's it's
<v Speaker 2>in the a L B. A is a frown place.
<v Speaker 3>Or you were there with the intentions of looking for
<v Speaker 3>these things. He had been there before. So were you
<v Speaker 3>actively looking for dog Man or Bigfoot or both?
<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't believe in dog Man.
<v Speaker 2>You one said we was on We on the We
<v Speaker 2>was just maybe Bigfoot because we had him stopping around our.
<v Speaker 1>Cabin right and and we went with the intention of
<v Speaker 1>basically looking for sasquatch. We have we were researchers. Is
<v Speaker 1>somewhat we do go out with periodically, and we do
<v Speaker 1>go out here in Louisiana and a lot in Alabama
<v Speaker 1>and We've had many encounters and I've had an actual
<v Speaker 1>sighting myself. Joe hadn't no the I didn't believe in
<v Speaker 1>dog Man, but this everybody said it is. But you know,
<v Speaker 1>and it took me a month to go ahead and
<v Speaker 1>decide and admit that this is a possibility. And there
<v Speaker 1>was something on it was carrying something as well. I
<v Speaker 1>couldn't see what it was at first. It looked like
<v Speaker 1>it had memory glands, and I kept saying, there's something
<v Speaker 1>on his chest. Even when I was filming, I was
<v Speaker 1>trying to document. I don't know what it is. I'm
<v Speaker 1>letting people make that decision on their own what they
<v Speaker 1>think it is. And that's that's the reason we want
<v Speaker 1>to put it out. There's there's things out here, and
<v Speaker 1>we want to make people aware. Instead. You hear the
<v Speaker 1>researchers and people that go out and look, oh, I've
<v Speaker 1>got this big catch and I've got this on film
<v Speaker 1>and I've got a picture, but they never show it right,
<v Speaker 1>So why not? Why not? Who are you saving it for?
<v Speaker 3>I mean, here here's the situation. Like I mentioned to
<v Speaker 3>you guys, I saw some clips you know that you
<v Speaker 3>shared on another podcast. Yes, there's one or two possibilities here,
<v Speaker 3>and that's why I really wanted to talk to you
<v Speaker 3>guys and really hear your, you know, side of the
<v Speaker 3>story of what actually happened, because you were the ones
<v Speaker 3>that were there, You're the ones that got the video.
<v Speaker 3>You know the story better than anybody. This is either
<v Speaker 3>someone intentionally hoaxing, in my opinion, or you guys captured
<v Speaker 3>thermal footage of a dog man in the LBO.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>Well, not only that man, it's three of and it's
<v Speaker 2>clearly moving at the same time. I don't know if
<v Speaker 2>you can. I can see some footage that you can
<v Speaker 2>see it maybe better. But you know, I thought about
<v Speaker 2>the same thing I said, Autem, I said when I well,
<v Speaker 2>we I said, either we got something. If this thing
<v Speaker 2>ain't got tennis shoes on, we got something. Yeah, exactly
<v Speaker 2>what I thought. It ain't the hoaxing. This funny word
<v Speaker 2>our misidentification. If it's somebody over there, that's just misidentification.
<v Speaker 2>That's not next thir to say it. We really saying, uh.
<v Speaker 2>But what we didn't see, Matt. We didn't see no
<v Speaker 2>rifle scope or gun on it. We didn't see no
<v Speaker 2>headlight on it. And what what anybody in the right
<v Speaker 2>mind would let somebody put up here with a car
<v Speaker 2>and practically the only thing you see, if they could
<v Speaker 2>even see that which I've been told that a creature
<v Speaker 2>can see it, sit there that long with cooking at
<v Speaker 2>the window with something without thinking they might get shocked him,
<v Speaker 2>says bust some rednecks right here. It was nobody out
<v Speaker 2>that night to speak of, because the weather was so bad.
<v Speaker 2>The park was practically shut down, and the wind was
<v Speaker 2>still howling, and it was you know, rain was coming
<v Speaker 2>and going. But whoever would to sit there and let
<v Speaker 2>us shine? I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't have sit the
<v Speaker 2>pearl player and took a chance on may not getting shot.
<v Speaker 3>No, there ain't no way.
<v Speaker 1>No, we're in the middle of nowhere. It's ten o'clock
<v Speaker 1>at night, we're in between storms. There was actually one
<v Speaker 1>that hit a few hours later, and did they were
<v Speaker 1>calling for softball size pill and there was there had
<v Speaker 1>been one hundred mile an hour when who in their
<v Speaker 1>right mind wouldn't have been out there in the middle
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere waiting for a car to come by.
<v Speaker 2>There was no one on the road.
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing. You guys were originally going up there
<v Speaker 3>for a meet and greet, but the meet and greets canceled, So,
<v Speaker 3>like I mean, if the meet and greet was still
<v Speaker 3>going on and happening and everything, maybe, But this situation
<v Speaker 3>and the reason for folks that are listening, the reason
<v Speaker 3>I'm leaving everything off the table besides either this is
<v Speaker 3>the real deal or this was a hoax, is because
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the signature, it speaks for itself. I can
<v Speaker 3>see it clearly. It can only be one or the other.
<v Speaker 3>This isn't a misidentification. This thing's on two legs and
<v Speaker 3>has a canine shaped head to it.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you could see you could actually see a snout
<v Speaker 1>yeah on it when I was looking through the lens.
<v Speaker 2>That's six things minutes of total footage of this thing,
<v Speaker 2>not just we only could just put up a couple
<v Speaker 2>high spots, you know that the turn and then the
<v Speaker 2>walk off. But it's sixteen minutes of it. You know,
<v Speaker 2>every time we would hand off the camera or move
<v Speaker 2>r outside the truck, or just it was you know,
<v Speaker 2>time you look back, it was, don't move. It already
<v Speaker 2>spun around and that like it was trying to take
<v Speaker 2>care of a little one that wanted to run around
<v Speaker 2>and or something. And then it was just weird until
<v Speaker 2>they all walk off. It took me. It took a
<v Speaker 2>long time to see that. I said, uh, we see
<v Speaker 2>the figure were driving off? She said, well, it's just
<v Speaker 2>it's just there. Could we driving off? It looks that way,
<v Speaker 2>so so no, it ain't. It's following the truck. If
<v Speaker 2>you were driving away from a standing creature, it'd be
<v Speaker 2>going away from you, not coming with you. Right, So
<v Speaker 2>it's wrotting down the hill, which ain't no hill, aret
<v Speaker 2>you It the bybank. I'm thinking, why would it want
<v Speaker 2>to walk down that hill toward us? Less he wants
<v Speaker 2>to draw our canchin And all the time I didn't
<v Speaker 2>see the signature, that little one. It scooted off down
<v Speaker 2>the hill from it just a little way, spied a
<v Speaker 2>couple of steps to the woods, you know, And that's
<v Speaker 2>what it did. It came down there and they both
<v Speaker 2>walked off together. When they disappeared behind the tree, you
<v Speaker 2>can see four legs walking two upright and then two
<v Speaker 2>right and walking together. Well, I thought about the same
<v Speaker 2>thing you're thinking about. So I knew after looking at
<v Speaker 2>footage and stuff, it's another field right there behind the woodlines,
<v Speaker 2>another field, and it's a little dump that goes from
<v Speaker 2>the off the road out in the other field. So
<v Speaker 2>I said, anybody's out here and they're heading the weather head.
<v Speaker 2>If they got a car park somewhere, it's gonna be
<v Speaker 2>right here, cause that's where you cut across from field
<v Speaker 2>to field to field there.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>It was nobody there, and it was nobody on the
<v Speaker 2>road anywhere the whole town. We drove on and we
<v Speaker 2>see this creature. We drove from miles and we didn't
<v Speaker 2>see anybody. We got on the main trace, we on
<v Speaker 2>overpass a buffalo field and there wasn't no other traffic
<v Speaker 2>but one truck that we seen.
<v Speaker 1>Right, and the distance it was from the vehicle. What
<v Speaker 1>was the whole purpose of it anyway?
<v Speaker 3>I mean, nobody knew that you were going to be
<v Speaker 3>in that spot at that time and happened to be
<v Speaker 3>looking in that direction with a thermal camera. There's no
<v Speaker 3>way anybody could have planned that out.
<v Speaker 1>No, there's no way. And what is so interesting about
<v Speaker 1>this is it had a way out and didn't take it.
<v Speaker 1>It just stood there.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it had a responsibility matter or it would
<v Speaker 2>have took off if it would have been even a
<v Speaker 2>deer or anything that they were just took off, you know,
<v Speaker 2>before we ever got there, it could have took off right,
<v Speaker 2>but whatever reason, and I'm thinking it's because it had
<v Speaker 2>responsibility of more than one there they you know, he
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't leave it in the all. But and when
<v Speaker 2>it around the corner, it has a good couple of
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards or longer seeing our headlights coming, and it
<v Speaker 2>could have easily got either there. It could have easily
<v Speaker 2>hunt her down, it done any of those things. Oh,
<v Speaker 2>it was just when we first seen it was just
<v Speaker 2>like you could see I outline. But it's real deal,
<v Speaker 2>and if you had to have our quality scope, you
<v Speaker 2>would have never known what you know, you you wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>have thought you would have anything if you'd even seen
<v Speaker 2>it out, especially on a bad night. But what it
<v Speaker 2>tires around is like I kind of not thinking like
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like it has covered on its back
<v Speaker 2>and none on the front. It's kind of like thing.
<v Speaker 2>But when it turns around and steps down that hill
<v Speaker 2>and steps in behind another limb, it just lights up
<v Speaker 2>with tumble and it just you know, you've seen the film,
<v Speaker 2>you know a little bit of crip of it, and
<v Speaker 2>it's remarkable to me. I said, that's the reason why
<v Speaker 2>we miss them so many times we're thinking there. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's because the hair or behind limbs
<v Speaker 2>or what. But it didn't have to even to step
<v Speaker 2>out behind them limbs, but it did. If it was
<v Speaker 2>limbs that was stepping out behind it didn't have to
<v Speaker 2>step and come down the hill and show itself the
<v Speaker 2>big creature in the back. You never seen one of
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bitty a little bitty spots on the
<v Speaker 2>ground or or you know, a little bitty signature. Could
<v Speaker 2>it starts walking walking.
<v Speaker 1>Off right and it's on the other side of the
<v Speaker 1>creek as well. So and who knows how much water
<v Speaker 1>was actually even in that creek that it was divided
<v Speaker 1>from us.
<v Speaker 2>And plus the wind was blowing big trees in the roof.
<v Speaker 2>We had to cut one of our party we had
<v Speaker 2>to cut the top out of a tree to get
<v Speaker 2>them in.
<v Speaker 1>Uh.
<v Speaker 2>And then when we went back to Reconnord, you could
<v Speaker 2>see with the gravel and the rocks, the stuff it
<v Speaker 2>washed across the road. He rained so hard, so that
<v Speaker 2>between that that bad weather and the rest of while
<v Speaker 2>we were gone in there had spots that walked across
<v Speaker 2>the road. There's some bad spots of you know, washed
<v Speaker 2>the road out in spots.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there was massive flooding and everything there. There was
<v Speaker 1>massive flooding from Memphis all the way into LBL that
<v Speaker 1>we could see that anyway, and also on the way back.
<v Speaker 1>And it did take us a month to go back
<v Speaker 1>and recon because you couldn't get into the LBL or
<v Speaker 1>even near it due to all the flooding and the
<v Speaker 1>severe weather they had been having that entire time. We
<v Speaker 1>didn't go back and even bother to try and recon.
<v Speaker 1>The next morning, we were just trying to get out
<v Speaker 1>of there with the break in the.
<v Speaker 2>Weather, and we'dgion hours away.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you and the thing is, you couldn't even
<v Speaker 1>walk back there in away with with all the mud.
<v Speaker 1>There's no way you could even get back in there.
<v Speaker 1>And if there was anything any kind of evidence there,
<v Speaker 1>it would have been all washed away anyway. So it
<v Speaker 1>was pointless.
<v Speaker 3>So after you got back and really looked it over
<v Speaker 3>and everything, I mean, what did.
<v Speaker 1>You think, That's when it really hit and kicked in.
<v Speaker 1>On the film, you hear us stammering. Our words are mixed.
<v Speaker 1>We tried our best to lose the thing. You always
<v Speaker 1>think that you're prepared. I always get out of the
<v Speaker 1>truck with with a recorder running. I've learned all of
<v Speaker 1>that because that's what you miss and but you're never
<v Speaker 1>prepared when when it hits. When it's there, it's there,
<v Speaker 1>and you never know when when we got back, that's
<v Speaker 1>when it really starts sinking in. It took me a
<v Speaker 1>month to even say I knew that it was some
<v Speaker 1>kind of cryptid and I kept saying, hey, this is
<v Speaker 1>a big foot, this is a big foot, and our
<v Speaker 1>end just argued with me, No, it isn't, No, it isn't.
<v Speaker 1>We had a few people look at.
<v Speaker 2>It, lots of people were telling us different things.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that it was a big foot something I said it.
<v Speaker 2>Was nobody, you know, they immediately people thought bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>And then.
<v Speaker 2>The night we first got it, it was like one
<v Speaker 2>or two points in the film is like a signature
<v Speaker 2>would come up beside his head, like sticking up like ears,
<v Speaker 2>and it it took so many different looks and when
<v Speaker 2>you go second by second in that frame, just pushing
<v Speaker 2>it up a little at the time, that think that
<v Speaker 2>thing moves a lot more than we ever thought it did.
<v Speaker 2>We didn't. We didn't realize it was moving as much
<v Speaker 2>as it was Uh, we didn't realize it had multiple
<v Speaker 2>ones there for for going on into the fifteen and
<v Speaker 2>a half minutes to decided ease all if if it
<v Speaker 2>could have got real bad, real quick, if if they
<v Speaker 2>decided to do anything, we lost people at night, if
<v Speaker 2>not all of.
<v Speaker 1>Us, that's a scary part. And we're still I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I've had I had one sighting already, but to even
<v Speaker 1>conceive of a dog man. It took me a month
<v Speaker 1>to even just entertain the idea. And I looked over
<v Speaker 1>the film oh over one hundred times, and I'm still
<v Speaker 1>actually processing it all Because if you believe in one
<v Speaker 1>cryptid how can you not believe in the rest. That's
<v Speaker 1>the conclusion I've come up with.
<v Speaker 2>And we both took the attitude that we didn't want
<v Speaker 2>to say it was any particular thing. You make up
<v Speaker 2>your own mind. And the more we did, and the
<v Speaker 2>more people told us what they thought they were saying, oh,
<v Speaker 2>and it just it just got it just got to
<v Speaker 2>be in that aaring it down in your mind will
<v Speaker 2>if it's a human, it'says this and this, Well, I
<v Speaker 2>walk over and get seventy yards away, and I'm taking
<v Speaker 2>pictures of myself with her at the truck with the
<v Speaker 2>thumber looking at me, and you can still see my
<v Speaker 2>ball cap on my head. You can see the phone
<v Speaker 2>in my hand when I'm holding it up trying to
<v Speaker 2>click the pictures and stuff. You see these signatures of
<v Speaker 2>tell tale stuff, and it's that far over there and
<v Speaker 2>it's just completely different. I don't know for the size
<v Speaker 2>of it, but the next the big creature that comes
<v Speaker 2>out at the last is a lot bigger than it,
<v Speaker 2>and uh, and the other one's half as big as
<v Speaker 2>you know of that signature. Uh. When I compared what
<v Speaker 2>I thought, it was pretty close, which I'm six two
<v Speaker 2>and I was pretty close the same size it could
<v Speaker 2>have been, Like it's a lot more bolt up than
<v Speaker 2>me though. And the other thing it did too, if
<v Speaker 2>you see it, kind of it kind of bowed up
<v Speaker 2>when it turned around and throw his chest out and
<v Speaker 2>his head back like he was kind of like, well, no, here,
<v Speaker 2>you finna get You're fin to find out right here
<v Speaker 2>I am. And that's attitude it took like that let
<v Speaker 2>us known it wouldn't it wouldn't play it right.
<v Speaker 1>It's the thought of what could have possibly happened if
<v Speaker 1>we would if he would have pursued that towards the creek.
<v Speaker 1>That's my concern. That's the thing that I worry about.
<v Speaker 1>And and we're presenting this to the public. We're not
<v Speaker 1>trying to convince anyone. We're not going to defend it.
<v Speaker 1>Here's the evidence. You decide for yourself. Is how we're
<v Speaker 1>presenting this.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I would love to say that you got
<v Speaker 3>amazing thermal footage of a bigfoot and LBL, but whenever
<v Speaker 3>I look at that thermal, uh, I mean, I see
<v Speaker 3>this now, I see what I believe our ears sticking
<v Speaker 3>up on the top of the head, and it's just
<v Speaker 3>you know, the wrong profile.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>You know, you guys mentioned that, you know, you used
<v Speaker 3>to listen to the Old Show and everything, so you
<v Speaker 3>know that we've been talking about OLBL for a long time.
<v Speaker 3>And oh yeah, you know, I've seen a few tracks
<v Speaker 3>being cast and lots of anecdotal stories, but I ain't
<v Speaker 3>never seen nothing like this.
<v Speaker 2>Nobody.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 2>It almost seems like you need to be this big
<v Speaker 2>shot to catch something like this, but really to everyday
<v Speaker 2>people catch stuff. But uh that's you know, you catch
<v Speaker 2>stuff and now you're able to present it a little
<v Speaker 2>bit since of the internet, you know, years ago when
<v Speaker 2>you was running the thing and it was very little
<v Speaker 2>the information that people was something was happening out there,
<v Speaker 2>but you weren't able to get a hold of it
<v Speaker 2>as much as you are now. And I think that's
<v Speaker 2>the way. It ain't just happening to one person. We
<v Speaker 2>didn't pick and choose we were out there. We put
<v Speaker 2>ourselves out there. If this, if this place hadn't, if
<v Speaker 2>we hadn't went on, we wouldn't have gotten nothing. If
<v Speaker 2>they'd have had your outing, we would have been over
<v Speaker 2>at it and probably wouldn't have gotten nothing and never
<v Speaker 2>went out even looking. You know, just lots of weird
<v Speaker 2>things had to line up for this to happen. One
<v Speaker 2>thing has been persistent, even in the weather. It's kind
<v Speaker 2>of bad to keep on going and then go out
<v Speaker 2>that night when the weather broke. I wanted to show
<v Speaker 2>the man a thermal. We just got it for two
<v Speaker 2>months and we've been out several times working with it,
<v Speaker 2>trying to learn it. I had just I have. I
<v Speaker 2>could step up my back door and say over one
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards and I was looking at animals across the river,
<v Speaker 2>and on bad nights you couldn't see as good as
<v Speaker 2>you could on good nights and you know cold front
<v Speaker 2>is you could see how animals were yarding up and
<v Speaker 2>then they would they would be you know, just different
<v Speaker 2>things you pick out when things that's happening. And I said,
<v Speaker 2>if they yarded up through this hunker down, through this
<v Speaker 2>bad weather and it had been lightened up, we might
<v Speaker 2>catch a bunch of stuff on the move tonight. We
<v Speaker 2>all thinking that mentality, and we didn't get out of
<v Speaker 2>the We didn't get out going good. We'd seen twenty
<v Speaker 2>five deer and then every feel you went by was
<v Speaker 2>fifteen ten, two, three diotes. I mean everything you don't
<v Speaker 2>normally see. Uh, you see them, but you don't see
<v Speaker 2>that many of them. They were there and they were
<v Speaker 2>out moving well.
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is is you hear the stories of
<v Speaker 1>like LBL and just in different areas. Okay, here's the proof,
<v Speaker 1>here's here's the evidence. This is what we're trying to
<v Speaker 1>present instead of the stories. This is what we're trying
<v Speaker 1>to do. I'm tired of the stories. I want to
<v Speaker 1>see proof.
<v Speaker 3>So what's some of the feedback that you guys have
<v Speaker 3>gotten since you put the video out? What what sorts
<v Speaker 3>of things are people saying.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of a lot of positive feed that that
<v Speaker 1>actually people are afraid of it. We have noticed clinch start.
<v Speaker 2>It took us a long time to get get somebody.
<v Speaker 2>It was so shaky. We was wanting to get it,
<v Speaker 2>you know, cleaned up best we could before we presented it.
<v Speaker 2>It's some kind of signature on it, so it wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>just leave us before we ever got it going. Oh
<v Speaker 2>and because these things, you know, seem to tend to
<v Speaker 2>change hands quite often.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, it just it also seems the ones that you
<v Speaker 1>look to to try and do something with it, they
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to do with it. It is thermal.
<v Speaker 1>It's all new to them. Uh do you If we
<v Speaker 1>hadn't been out with this thermal for two months prior,
<v Speaker 1>we might not have caught this right. You have to
<v Speaker 1>know your equipment.
<v Speaker 3>There's a big learning curve on those.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes it is.
<v Speaker 2>You can't say them, and you got to adjust it
<v Speaker 2>a little bit to make it perform them. You know,
<v Speaker 2>we've got those, you know it. You know, I really interested,
<v Speaker 2>but I was looking for us you know. Uh, visual
<v Speaker 2>sightings is my thing, you know, and I'm thinking, you know,
<v Speaker 2>just kinda wanted food with it. And now I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>just say it's all he said, you know, was visual
<v Speaker 2>sightings was his thing and not thermal. But most nine
<v Speaker 2>times out of ten, if you've got visual sightings, what's
<v Speaker 2>first thing people want? They want recordings of it, right,
<v Speaker 2>And so that speaks for that. And then the other
<v Speaker 2>fella said, well, I ain't got no scale to it.
<v Speaker 2>It might be this, and it might be that. Well
<v Speaker 2>out of the outside chance, it might be a dog person,
<v Speaker 2>And just should you be if you at another game,
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you be more interested in this? Just shutting it
<v Speaker 2>down right there? But I didn't fight him for it.
<v Speaker 2>I ain't say any more about it. We quit talking
<v Speaker 2>and that went on about our business. But I'm just
<v Speaker 2>thinking myself, if you really into the subject, it shouldn't
<v Speaker 2>be about that you called it or you didn't catch it.
<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't be worried about the subject. But that's just me.
<v Speaker 1>And it is carrying something. Some say it's a baby,
<v Speaker 1>some say it's you know, maybe some game or something.
<v Speaker 1>There's something going on in the abdomen area. So if
<v Speaker 1>anyone gets a chance to even see the clips of
<v Speaker 1>the thermal, look and decide for yourself what you think
<v Speaker 1>it is. The heat signature is there. We just don't
<v Speaker 1>know what it is. I have racked my brain. I've
<v Speaker 1>looked at it under magnifying glamps and everything else. Like
<v Speaker 1>I said, we're just here to present the evidence and
<v Speaker 1>you decide what it is.
<v Speaker 3>Now, where do you guys have got this stuff posted
<v Speaker 3>up for people to go look at?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, the Dogman Project dot com, the North American
<v Speaker 1>dog Man Project has it posted on their main web page,
<v Speaker 1>and also it is on YouTube. There is clips and
<v Speaker 1>an audio recording of the account, and there is some pictures.
<v Speaker 1>There is a sketch from uh Sybylla Irwin. Like I said,
<v Speaker 1>look the side for yourself. Yeah, it's on a few
<v Speaker 1>channels that you're able to see it on. But like
<v Speaker 1>I said, on the dog the North American dog Man
<v Speaker 1>Project is your best bet where you can actually go
<v Speaker 1>and look at it and look at it several times.
<v Speaker 3>Now, are you guys associated with that group or are
<v Speaker 3>they just working with on this? Okay, No, it was.
<v Speaker 1>It was the first person that was actually willing to
<v Speaker 1>try and help us. We were having a hard time
<v Speaker 1>getting just even trying to get somebody to stabilize it,
<v Speaker 1>and we decided we had it worked on a few times.
<v Speaker 1>People that you thought that could help you and that
<v Speaker 1>you looked for guidance offered nothing. So we found ourselves
<v Speaker 1>on our own for for a couple of months, and
<v Speaker 1>Jody Cook took an interest and decided to help us.
<v Speaker 1>I went h through a few people, and he got
<v Speaker 1>a hold of it and wanted to see it and
<v Speaker 1>realized that hey, it was the real deal, and he
<v Speaker 1>followed through with it. He's been very supportive. It's been
<v Speaker 1>on coast, He went on coast to coast and he
<v Speaker 1>discussed it in an air of view and some different
<v Speaker 1>things like that. We've been asked to go on some
<v Speaker 1>different things. We're happy with just the even the way
<v Speaker 1>it is. We're just having a good time. We're just
<v Speaker 1>out enjoying ourselves. And like I said, we just wanted
<v Speaker 1>to present the evidence and everyone to decide for themselves.
<v Speaker 1>We just wanted to show the world instead of okay,
<v Speaker 1>you're tired of the stories. Here it is. That's all
<v Speaker 1>we can do. And I don't know if that'll ever
<v Speaker 1>even be enough.
<v Speaker 3>Probably not, unfortunately, it probably not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I said, uh, don't go chase after him, please,
<v Speaker 1>We're this is something that has really sunk in with us.
<v Speaker 1>Because we do go out to some private properties and
<v Speaker 1>different things like that, and and some different areas like
<v Speaker 1>in Alabama as well and here in Louisiana, and we
<v Speaker 1>come pretty close to these creatures at times in experiences.
<v Speaker 1>And this was a good wake up call for us.
<v Speaker 2>This time.
<v Speaker 3>Well, now you know you mentioned it, so I got
<v Speaker 3>to ask. I got to hear about the bigfoot sighting.
<v Speaker 1>Oh. I was camping at Alex Smith Park up at valk, Arkansas.
<v Speaker 1>It was in two thousand, I believe twenty nineteen. We
<v Speaker 1>were up there. It was a camp out. It was
<v Speaker 1>mainly women.
<v Speaker 2>It was with.
<v Speaker 1>A small channel a woman that she is no longer
<v Speaker 1>doing it. And they had come up the night before.
<v Speaker 1>They were coming up. We've camped right by the lake.
<v Speaker 1>They were running up the hill at night. We would
<v Speaker 1>go into our tents like about ten o'clock at night,
<v Speaker 1>and we conversed back and forth. It was a full moon.
<v Speaker 1>It was September. It was one hundred and seven degrees.
<v Speaker 1>It was hot, yes, hot, do you know how hot
<v Speaker 1>it gets up over there? And it was running through
<v Speaker 1>the They were running through the camp, smashing your tents down.
<v Speaker 1>I was laying in my tent about the third time,
<v Speaker 1>as it ran through, it smashed a little all the
<v Speaker 1>way down on my face, and it startled me that time.
<v Speaker 1>And she said, pat, get out of your tent. Get
<v Speaker 1>out of your tent. So I got out of my
<v Speaker 1>tent and she said, come on, let's walk to the
<v Speaker 1>woodline here, and there was a bank there that you
<v Speaker 1>could see down into the water. You've seen eyeshine all
<v Speaker 1>down through there. You can see it. And she said,
<v Speaker 1>tell him to stop it, just tell him to stop.
<v Speaker 1>And it were and I had no problems the rest
<v Speaker 1>of the night. Now, the following night, Joe had come
<v Speaker 1>up and he was staying in another tent and he
<v Speaker 1>was staying in the tent next to me, and it was,
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it was a full moon. I had
<v Speaker 1>been out with the girls visiting and one of the
<v Speaker 1>girls shared a tent with him. When she had come up,
<v Speaker 1>and she left the light on. She couldn't get it out.
<v Speaker 1>He was asleep. Joe was asleep in the tent, and
<v Speaker 1>I watched one crawl up between the tents and to
<v Speaker 1>reach out and to touch Joe, and it was crawling, actually,
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't help myself, and I had to try
<v Speaker 1>and speak to it. And it stopped, and it backed up,
<v Speaker 1>and a few minutes later it cried, slowly crawled and
<v Speaker 1>reached out and touched the tent where he was at.
<v Speaker 1>He was sleeping right up against the tent, snoring. And
<v Speaker 1>I said something again, and it disappeared. I could see
<v Speaker 1>the I could see the hair off the arms. I
<v Speaker 1>could see a side profile of the face. It was black,
<v Speaker 1>It had shorter hair on top. It had probably two
<v Speaker 1>inch hair three inches hanging off the arms. It was
<v Speaker 1>ugly from what I could see. And it backed off
<v Speaker 1>and that was the end of it.
<v Speaker 3>What did you say to it?
<v Speaker 1>I said, they always say I want a pet one No,
<v Speaker 1>I just said, I said, hey, what are you doing here?
<v Speaker 3>Come here?
<v Speaker 1>Let me see you just just talking. I had worked
<v Speaker 1>with horses and things like that, so I was used
<v Speaker 1>to talking to the animal. So I was trying to
<v Speaker 1>lure this thing up to talk to it. And I
<v Speaker 1>didn't scare it off totally at that time, but because
<v Speaker 1>it did come back act. But the second time after that,
<v Speaker 1>it never came back.
<v Speaker 3>Do you think it was the same one that was
<v Speaker 3>running through camp.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure there was more than one. That night
<v Speaker 1>they were there was a camper there was jiggling the
<v Speaker 1>camper knob. You could hear it over by the I
<v Speaker 1>was over by the camper, so I could hear it
<v Speaker 1>moving by the camper. I think there was numerous ones
<v Speaker 1>through there that night. It was more than one. I
<v Speaker 1>do know that.
<v Speaker 3>And Joe's over there saw on logs.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was a sleeping camper was to date the
<v Speaker 1>sleeping camp the sleeping camper, the sleeping camper that was Lunam. Yes.
<v Speaker 1>And and they had said there was a good possibility
<v Speaker 1>of even possibly even having a sighting there because at
<v Speaker 1>that park itself that they're pretty is to the people,
<v Speaker 1>and we have found that to be true. We have
<v Speaker 1>camped there a few times after that, and you can
<v Speaker 1>hear them at night and uh, hollering and different things.
<v Speaker 3>You guys got plans to go back to the LBO.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're going to go up in a few months.
<v Speaker 1>We're going to make another trip up. We're meeting up
<v Speaker 1>with some friends again and hopefully uh and we're going
<v Speaker 1>to go back to the site to see what's going on.
<v Speaker 1>We're having some we are having someone look at it
<v Speaker 1>to get their opinion and let's see what they come
<v Speaker 1>what they have to say. About it that they will
<v Speaker 1>be there during that time and go from there.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I like to get out and ride that
<v Speaker 2>place because we there's a lot, there's lots of territory
<v Speaker 2>there and we have very little knowledge of it. And
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of road nets. So you can get
<v Speaker 2>out and go. You just have to be careful and
<v Speaker 2>getting in war shafts and things, because some of them
<v Speaker 2>roads get get kind of hairy down in there in
<v Speaker 2>some of them places. But I look forward going back
<v Speaker 2>and as much at night as getting out and see
<v Speaker 2>stuff during the day too, you know, uh and researching
<v Speaker 2>some more to just getting out and looking around the
<v Speaker 2>around the place. And you know, if we had a
<v Speaker 2>chance to see tracks at the boat ramps and stuff,
<v Speaker 2>you know, if the water ain't too high, which is
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna be too high this time, we would get
<v Speaker 2>out and do some of that too. But we look
<v Speaker 2>forward going back. Now. We do a lot of this
<v Speaker 2>with our friends because we're out being out with our
<v Speaker 2>friends too. It's just just that we get together and
<v Speaker 2>we'll we'll ride and do you know, do night ventures.
<v Speaker 2>And Matt most of us, she says, you know, we've
<v Speaker 2>been close, she sayings, now they've been close to us more.
<v Speaker 2>We hear them around our camper, we hear them around
<v Speaker 2>our tent. If we intent with a lot of times
<v Speaker 2>around the you know, they come up and do the
<v Speaker 2>It's the best way to let them come to you.
<v Speaker 2>If you have your you have your you know, brothers
<v Speaker 2>about meet more or or not necessarily meet one. But
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, it's better off let them
<v Speaker 2>come to you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, we put ourselves out there too, and if
<v Speaker 1>you can go out in Louisiana, you could pretty much
<v Speaker 1>go out anywhere.
<v Speaker 3>That That is true. That is very true.
<v Speaker 1>We've had our share, We've had our camper shook once
<v Speaker 1>and I love putting audio out and we've had like
<v Speaker 1>several encounters and experiences and things like that. But this
<v Speaker 1>was this last time was totally different. This is a
<v Speaker 1>whole different ballgame here.
<v Speaker 3>Well, I appreciate you guys coming on telling the story
<v Speaker 3>behind the footage and everything, and I'm definitely gonna talk
<v Speaker 3>to you some more whenever we get off the air here,
<v Speaker 3>and I definitely want to have you guys back on again,
<v Speaker 3>if to talk about this in the future, but also
<v Speaker 3>to hear about those other experiences, encounters and things that
<v Speaker 3>you've had over the years.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you so much.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you, Matt.
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