Episode 150: Eating Window Variability, Balance vs. Over-restriction, and More
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To make a submission for the podcast, go to fastfeastrepeat.com/submit. We are a community-driven podcast, and we look forward to sharing your questions, success stories, non-scale victories, IF tweaks, motivational quotes (and more!) on each episode of the podcast.
Resources used in today’s episode:
Join Gin in the new Fast Feast Repeat app for The Grown-Up Year: 52 Weeks to Listen, Play, and Nourish, as well as a growing collection of intermittent fasting resources. Go to app.fastfeastrepeat.com to join us or go to the App Store and download the Fast Feast Repeat app, available for both iPhone and Android.
To get the books, go to https://www.ginstephens.com/get-the-books.html. The second edition of Delay, Don’t Deny is now available in ebook, paperback, hardback, and audIo book. This is the book that you’ll want to start with or share with others, as it is a simple introduction to IF. It’s been updated to include the clean fast, a thorough description of ADF and all of your ADF options, and an all new success stories section. When shopping, make sure to get the second edition, which has a 2024 publication date. The audiobook for the second edition is also available now!
Gin has a new YouTube Channel! Visit https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_frGNiTEoJ88rZOwvuG2CA and subscribe today so you never miss an intermittent fasting tip, a support session, or an interview with a past IF Stories guest or expert.
Want to learn more about BiOptimizer’s Magnesium Breakthrough? Visit www.bioptimizers.com/fastfeastrepeat and use code FFR15 to save 15% off any order.
Go to fastfeastrepeat.com to see Gin’s and Sheri’s favorite things, and to shop with us. Every purchase you make through links on our website help to support this podcast so we can keep bringing you episodes each week.
Are you ready to take your intermittent fasting lifestyle to the next level? There’s nothing better than community to help with that. In the Delay, Don’t Deny community we all embrace the clean fast, and there’s just the right support for you as you live your intermittent fasting lifestyle.
Connect with both Gin and Sheri in the community, as well as thousands of other intermittent fasters who are there to support you along your journey. If you’re new to intermittent fasting or recommitting to the IF lifestyle, join the 28-Day FAST Start group. After your fast start, join us for support in The 1st Year group. Need tips for long term maintenance? We have a place for that! There are many more useful spaces beyond these, and you can interact in as many as you like.
Visit ginstephens.com/community to join us. An annual membership costs just over a dollar a week when you do the math. If you aren’t ready to fully commit for a year, join for a month and you can cancel at any time. If you know you’ll want to stay forever, we also have a lifetime membership option available.
IF is free. You don’t need to join our community to fast. But if you’re looking for support from a community of like-minded IFers, we are here for you at
2026-05-13
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fast Feast Repeat, Intermittent Fasting for Life. I'm <v Speaker 1>Jen Stevens, author of the New York Times bestseller Fast <v Speaker 1>Feast Repeat. <v Speaker 2>And I'm Sherry Bullock, longtime intermittent faster and health and <v Speaker 2>wellness advocate. Please keep in mind that this podcast is <v Speaker 2>for educational and motivational purposes only and is not intended <v Speaker 2>to provide medical or diagnostic advice. Jen and I are <v Speaker 2>not doctors, so make sure to check with your trusted <v Speaker 2>healthcare professionals before making changes, especially when it comes to <v Speaker 2>any medical treatments or medications. <v Speaker 1>Whether you're new to intermittent fasting or an experienced intermittent faster, <v Speaker 1>tune in each week to get inspired, to learn, and <v Speaker 1>to have some fun along the way. Hi, everybody, we <v Speaker 1>are so glad you're here today. Welcome to this week's <v Speaker 1>episode of the Fast Feast Repeat, Intermittent Fasting for Life Podcast. <v Speaker 1>How are you doing today's sharing? <v Speaker 2>I'm doing well. Anything new in your world? Will? <v Speaker 1>I just went on a really long I was out <v Speaker 1>of town for six nights, traveled all around, and you know, <v Speaker 1>I've started weighing again. I talked about that a few <v Speaker 1>weeks ago on the podcast of course I didn't weigh <v Speaker 1>while I was traveling. But Chris and I when he <v Speaker 1>had a work trip, so I went with him to <v Speaker 1>d C where he works, and then he has a <v Speaker 1>house in Virginia, and so I went to his place <v Speaker 1>in Virginia, and then we went to Winston Salem. It <v Speaker 1>was a baseball weekend, and then we drove back to <v Speaker 1>Surfside Beach and so I was away for six nights <v Speaker 1>and ate at restaurants the entire time. Got on the scale, <v Speaker 1>I was up one tenth of a pound. <v Speaker 2>Fantastic, I know. <v Speaker 1>I feel really good about my choices. There was one <v Speaker 1>day when I over ate to the point that I <v Speaker 1>felt like I was really too fold. We had a <v Speaker 1>kind of a short window. We were busy, we had <v Speaker 1>been driving all day, and then we ate kind of <v Speaker 1>later than usual, and it was a big restaurant meal <v Speaker 1>all in a really short time. Then I was like <v Speaker 1>overly full. But I did a good job eating in restaurants. <v Speaker 1>One day, I had a slightly longer window most days, <v Speaker 1>it was a pretty good window. And was super excited <v Speaker 1>about that. So but then, of course I had a <v Speaker 1>fabulous meal last night that was very very healthy and <v Speaker 1>beans and rice and corn. It was like a burrito, <v Speaker 1>kind of brito bowl kind of a thing would let us. <v Speaker 1>It was such a healthy eat, like a grown up meal. <v Speaker 1>And I get on the scale and I'm up a pound. <v Speaker 2>I'm like, what scale? <v Speaker 1>You're crazy? <v Speaker 2>Anyway, it made me laugh, But the good news is. <v Speaker 1>I'm no longer like it didn't. Didn't upset me that <v Speaker 1>this gale was up a pounds. <v Speaker 2>Good. Yeah, I'm glad, yep. Yeah, So anything with you <v Speaker 2>going on Nope, not really just waiting for my surgery. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know you'll be glad when that's over and <v Speaker 1>when you're healed and you have full mobility back. <v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, you know, FM Malay only covers you for <v Speaker 2>twelve weeks, and they've already told me my leave is <v Speaker 2>going to be at least fourteen weeks. So then I'm like, <v Speaker 2>that just makes me nervous. Yeah, I'm sure it's fine. <v Speaker 2>My boss already signed off on it. It's just one <v Speaker 2>of those things that make me nervous. Yeah, I like <v Speaker 2>to know I'm protected, it's true. So anyway, well, we <v Speaker 2>are just gonna jump right into a celebration from Debbie <v Speaker 2>in Saint Louis, Missouri. Debbie shared I am sixty years old, <v Speaker 2>and I am celebrating five years of intermitten fasting since <v Speaker 2>April of twenty twenty one. It took me fourteen months <v Speaker 2>to lose thirty pounds. I'm a turtle, but I've kept <v Speaker 2>it off. I have a so much more than weight <v Speaker 2>loss for me. I wanted to share some of my <v Speaker 2>non scale victories with you. I've lost four inches around <v Speaker 2>my chest, five around my waist, four around my hips, <v Speaker 2>and I've kept them off. Skin tags are gone, brown <v Speaker 2>spot's mostly gone, rough elbows and heels gone. My hair <v Speaker 2>and nails are much healthier. I heel much faster from <v Speaker 2>any bumps, scrapes, or cuts. My teeth are wier. I <v Speaker 2>no longer knee glasses because my vision has improved. My <v Speaker 2>blood work gets better every year, even though I'm getting older. <v Speaker 2>I have arthritis in my hands, and the pain is gone, <v Speaker 2>and I have improved flexibility. I don't have arthritis anywhere else, <v Speaker 2>such as my knees, as doctors told me I would. <v Speaker 2>I don't get my grain headaches anymore, buying smaller sized <v Speaker 2>clothes and donating my larger ones. My bracelets are no <v Speaker 2>longer tight on my wrists. I've had to move my <v Speaker 2>car seat up, I had to tighten the strips on <v Speaker 2>my bicycle helmet and my hiking backpack. I see my <v Speaker 2>family out of state twice a year, and at each <v Speaker 2>visit someone says, you look great. I have other non <v Speaker 2>scale victories too, and they all remind me of the <v Speaker 2>overall health benefits of IF. I'm inspired weekly by this <v Speaker 2>and the intermin Fasting Stories podcast, and I've read all <v Speaker 2>of Jinn's books. I'm extremely grateful to both Jennis Sherry <v Speaker 2>for bringing IF to me into the world. IF is <v Speaker 2>truly an incredibly easy and healthy lifestyle. Well, I love that, Debbie, <v Speaker 2>so many wins. <v Speaker 1>And you know we had Did you see the post <v Speaker 1>in the community the other day? It might have been <v Speaker 1>yesterday or the day before, when someone said, was it <v Speaker 1>her doctor said that intermittent fasting wasn't good for menopausal <v Speaker 1>women or post menopausal women? Or was it her friend? <v Speaker 2>Her friend asked her if she'd seen some research articles <v Speaker 2>something like that. Yeah. I think it was her friend. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, her friend said, And I was like, bad, seen anything, Yeah, <v Speaker 1>But she was suddenly feeling this community member was suddenly <v Speaker 1>feeling worried, like suddenly this was bad for you. Know <v Speaker 1>postmenopausal women, and those are the kind of things you know, <v Speaker 1>the friend planted that seat of doubt, right, And then <v Speaker 1>it's like very frustrating because we hear stories like this <v Speaker 1>from Debbie, my own experience, the experience of thousands and <v Speaker 1>thousands of intermittent fasters. I've recorded five hundred and thirty <v Speaker 1>intermitten fasting stories. All these things that Debbie is celebrating <v Speaker 1>at the age of sixty, all of these improvements. And <v Speaker 1>there's a Debbie out there, though, who's been scared about <v Speaker 1>intermittent fasting from a friend who's ill informed, who said, oh, no, <v Speaker 1>that's not good for women of your age, right, So <v Speaker 1>the people who are missing out on the potential health <v Speaker 1>benefits and also the freedom the lifestyle offers, it's just very, <v Speaker 1>very frustrating to me. <v Speaker 2>Sometimes I think that, you know, Debbie downers should always <v Speaker 2>give you that person who is maybe low key jealous <v Speaker 2>of the success you're finding, and maybe their comments about <v Speaker 2>intermittent fasting, oh I don't think that's healthy or whatever. <v Speaker 2>It may have more to do with them than you, right, <v Speaker 2>They might be really envious of the success you found <v Speaker 2>and how great you look, but they also don't feel <v Speaker 2>like they can do it, and so rather than being <v Speaker 2>just happy for you that you've found something that makes <v Speaker 2>you feel great and has you know, reversed health conditions <v Speaker 2>or you know, helped you drop some pesky way or <v Speaker 2>you know, whatever it is, sometimes the loudest naysayers are <v Speaker 2>doing so because they themselves feel less than because maybe <v Speaker 2>they tried it and they felt hungry and they couldn't <v Speaker 2>do it. So I always feel when somebody is trying <v Speaker 2>to talk you out of doing something that you are <v Speaker 2>excited about and that is working great for you, that <v Speaker 2>it really has nothing to do with you. It's really <v Speaker 2>all about them. And if you can step back and <v Speaker 2>look at it from that perspective, it's really easier to <v Speaker 2>just take whatever they've had to say with a grain <v Speaker 2>of salt and just go about your business. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't let anybody steal your still your sunshine, and <v Speaker 1>we can really trust how we're feeling, you know, if <v Speaker 1>we're feeling better and better and our health markers are improving, <v Speaker 1>and you know, all of those things that we just <v Speaker 1>heard from DeBie, like her skin tags falling off, her <v Speaker 1>eyesight is better, she's healing faster, her arthritis pain is gone, <v Speaker 1>her arthritis is not in her knees as the doctor <v Speaker 1>said it would be. I mean, it's just yeah, that <v Speaker 1>sounds very dangerous. You should stop doing it. No, it's <v Speaker 1>the opposite. Her body is telling her. Our bodies are <v Speaker 1>wise and they really communicate well with us. If things <v Speaker 1>are feeling better and better and you're getting out there, <v Speaker 1>that's the evidence you need right there. Trust trust your results. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>if you're feeling worse and worse things are not you're <v Speaker 1>getting As time goes on, you know, you're feeling more <v Speaker 1>and more like the urge to bind, or you're starving, <v Speaker 1>trust that too. You may be accidentally or restricting, you <v Speaker 1>may need some more nutrients. So we could really really <v Speaker 1>learn to listen to our bodies and trust that instead <v Speaker 1>of all those other people. <v Speaker 2>Yeah. I actually just looked up the post. It was <v Speaker 2>her doctor. Her gyah Okay felt that there has been <v Speaker 2>new research studies on negative effects on fasting women in menopause, <v Speaker 2>but there aren't specifically cardiac no, and that my answer <v Speaker 2>my question by doctor would be like, oh, I would <v Speaker 2>love to read more. Can you please tell me where <v Speaker 2>I can find these research studies? <v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the person who shared it said she had <v Speaker 1>looked for it and couldn't find it herself because it's <v Speaker 1>not we haven't seen that. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, trust me, anything that comes out, if <v Speaker 2>we wouldn't see it, somebody shares it with. <v Speaker 1>Us, Yeah, we would know. We don't miss any of it. <v Speaker 2>Yeah. <v Speaker 1>So now we have a question from a listener. This <v Speaker 1>question is from Carrie from Carolina. I have been doing <v Speaker 1>clean fasting since July twenty twenty five. I have a <v Speaker 1>high stressed corporate job with significant travel and a schedule <v Speaker 1>that varies significantly daily. I have found intermittent fasting to <v Speaker 1>be incredibly helpful when decreasing food noise. I never feel <v Speaker 1>angry anymore, and I have amazing mental clarity throughout the day. <v Speaker 1>I've lost about thirty five pounds. My window changes all <v Speaker 1>the time based on my work schedule, with some sort <v Speaker 1>of eating window of one to five hours in the <v Speaker 1>afternoon or evening, and I often participate in meal less <v Speaker 1>mondays as long as my schedule will allow. For the <v Speaker 1>up day on Tuesday, I do what I can with <v Speaker 1>making food versus eating out, but my schedule doesn't always <v Speaker 1>allow that option, and at times I may not have <v Speaker 1>any choice on where I eat or the time of <v Speaker 1>the meal, I just shift my window and I plan <v Speaker 1>around that time when it occurs. In February, I had <v Speaker 1>a few weeks of a plateau with my weekly averages <v Speaker 1>maintaining or going slightly higher. I weigh daily and do <v Speaker 1>an average weekly wait unless I'm flying, which is rare. <v Speaker 1>I'm not overly concerned about that small blip, but it <v Speaker 1>leads me to my question, will having such an extreme <v Speaker 1>variance in daily eating windows every day potentially negatively impact <v Speaker 1>my weight loss? It certainly keeps my body guessing, but <v Speaker 1>there are times when I'm ready to open my window, <v Speaker 1>but don't have a good option for opening, as I'm <v Speaker 1>not eating any fast food and I'm trying to avoid <v Speaker 1>processed foods, which eliminates most snacks that are manageable for <v Speaker 1>multiple days of travel, So I decide to continue to wait. <v Speaker 1>When I end up opening, I know I've then waited <v Speaker 1>too long, and I have difficulty paying attention to how <v Speaker 1>I'm feeling. I'm a volume eater, and sometimes I don't <v Speaker 1>feel like I'm getting enough in I'm five foot six <v Speaker 1>inches and one hundred and eighty pounds, so I have <v Speaker 1>an opportunity to continue to lose weight and I'm not <v Speaker 1>sure where I will land, but I don't want to <v Speaker 1>create any unnecessary hindrances for that. Any clarity surrounding a <v Speaker 1>consistent versus significantly variable eating window would be great. Thank <v Speaker 1>so much for all you do. <v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I feel like I don't quite have enough <v Speaker 2>information just because you said sometimes like you don't want <v Speaker 2>to eat out, but then sometimes your schedule does not <v Speaker 2>allow that option, and that you don't have a choice <v Speaker 2>on where you want to eat at the time of. <v Speaker 1>As food doesn't want fast food. <v Speaker 2>Right, And then I mean shifting your window around and <v Speaker 2>planning it around your day's schedule. That's smart. You say, <v Speaker 2>there are times when you're ready to open your window, <v Speaker 2>but you don't have a good option for opening as <v Speaker 2>you're not eating any fast food. You're trying to avoid <v Speaker 2>processed foods, which makes snacks you know, on multiple days <v Speaker 2>of travel difficult. And you know, I can think of <v Speaker 2>a lot of portable food that is not fast food <v Speaker 2>ors not ultra processed food that could work as window openers. <v Speaker 2>If your concern is that you might be under eating <v Speaker 2>some days, you know, my best advice to you would <v Speaker 2>be we've talked a lot about uppish downish eightyf hybrid <v Speaker 2>if you can kind of look at your week, like <v Speaker 2>if you know that you have a day and you're <v Speaker 2>gonna be on the go, you're traveling or whatever, and <v Speaker 2>your dinner is going to be dinner out, and that's <v Speaker 2>gonna be the first time you have to eat, and <v Speaker 2>you're gonna you're gonna eat it, and then that's it, <v Speaker 2>that's all you're gonna eat that day. I would tell <v Speaker 2>you to really tune in to society while you're eating. <v Speaker 2>Try to eat slowly, try to eat without distraction, eat <v Speaker 2>fully to satiety. And if that window only ends up <v Speaker 2>being forty five minutes or an hour, the next day, <v Speaker 2>plan to have two full meals. Do that sort of <v Speaker 2>downish uppish approach. And you know, if you are just <v Speaker 2>at a place where you just don't have any access <v Speaker 2>to good food and you just don't want to eat <v Speaker 2>food that's not window worthy, do a complete down day <v Speaker 2>and the next day do an up day. You know, <v Speaker 2>the concern would come is if you were having a <v Speaker 2>lot of back to back really short windows, right and <v Speaker 2>you know, you say you're a volume eater, you don't <v Speaker 2>feel like you're getting enough in so again by eating undistracted, <v Speaker 2>focusing on food quality based off of you know, what <v Speaker 2>you can control. You know, I don't know if when <v Speaker 2>you travel you have the option to hit some sort <v Speaker 2>of store and stock up your hotel room with some <v Speaker 2>you know, healthy window openers. But yeah, this is where <v Speaker 2>you're just going to kind of have to be creative, <v Speaker 2>and so maybe you can't avoid all processed foods. Do <v Speaker 2>the best you can, you know, choose the best you can. <v Speaker 2>You know, you're always going to be better off choosing <v Speaker 2>a meal that you can load up with plenty of vegetables, <v Speaker 2>or you know, stay with your grilled meats rather than <v Speaker 2>fried meats. You know, there's a lot of things you <v Speaker 2>can do to make restaurant food and eating out healthier, <v Speaker 2>and you know there's we can only control what we <v Speaker 2>can control. So with that said, just focus on making <v Speaker 2>sure that you are eating to society in your windows <v Speaker 2>and if you're having you know, back to back short windows, <v Speaker 2>throw in some longer, more food, more volume, uppish days <v Speaker 2>to follow that. Do you have any well, I want. <v Speaker 1>To just answer she had that very specific question in there, <v Speaker 1>will having such an extreme variance in daily eating windows <v Speaker 1>every day potentially negatively impact my weight? Loss, I would <v Speaker 1>say no, And it's actually the opposite would be the <v Speaker 1>problem if you did not have any variations, if your <v Speaker 1>window was precisely the same every single day, that is <v Speaker 1>more likely to negatively impact your weight loss. So extreme variance, <v Speaker 1>I think about ADF, what do we recommend for people <v Speaker 1>who are stuck ADF. That's pretty extreme variance down day <v Speaker 1>up day. So, and I've talked about this before. I <v Speaker 1>just tend to do that naturally, and I'm very fortunate <v Speaker 1>that that's what I naturally do. I've never locked in <v Speaker 1>to a short, tight window that's the same every day. <v Speaker 1>I always have that variance, and I think that's been <v Speaker 1>very helpful for me. So variance is a good thing, <v Speaker 1>And so don't be stressed about that. I want to <v Speaker 1>be consistent, meaning we're we're sticking to a routine, we're <v Speaker 1>fasting every day, we're following a protocol. But we don't <v Speaker 1>want to be so rigid that it becomes extremely rigid <v Speaker 1>and unvaried every single day. <v Speaker 2>And now two days have to look the same. <v Speaker 1>And if every single day looks the same, you're more <v Speaker 1>likely to plateau. <v Speaker 2>Right. <v Speaker 1>It's so funny. This reminds me very much of how <v Speaker 1>I did my trip this past week. When I was gone, <v Speaker 1>you know that one day we didn't eat till we <v Speaker 1>didn't get to the restaurant. We sat down at six <v Speaker 1>point thirty, which is pretty late. It's late for you, <v Speaker 1>it was late for me. And you know, we started <v Speaker 1>at the bar with like some hummus and olives and <v Speaker 1>all that, and it was really good. But then we <v Speaker 1>got to the table and ordered too much food and <v Speaker 1>I ate too much and I was really full. That <v Speaker 1>was not good. So I would, you know, just really <v Speaker 1>pay attention to you know, what you're choosing and how <v Speaker 1>you're going to feel. And you don't want to feel <v Speaker 1>overly full, for sure, but you want to make sure <v Speaker 1>you're getting in enough and giving yourself the time. In hindsight, <v Speaker 1>we should have opened a little earlier. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, all right. So we have a question from <v Speaker 2>Jennifer from the Bay Area of California. She said, hello, ladies. <v Speaker 2>I've been inter fasting for several years. I started after <v Speaker 2>reading the OBCD code and frequently would practice multi day fasts, <v Speaker 2>following up with a one meal a day. I'm sure <v Speaker 2>my metabolism is tanked. My diet is carnivore. However, I <v Speaker 2>do on occasion indulge in low glycemic carbs when eating out. <v Speaker 2>My question is, on my down day, should I adjust <v Speaker 2>my calories to take into consideration the amount of calories <v Speaker 2>I am burning for that day. I try and hit <v Speaker 2>at least ten thousand steps daily, plus I lift weights <v Speaker 2>five days a week. On those days that I do both, <v Speaker 2>I tend to burn around five hundred calories, So my <v Speaker 2>total number of calories for the day would be around zero. <v Speaker 2>Should I be eating more on that down day to <v Speaker 2>account for the number of calories burned? I am five <v Speaker 2>foot ten. I currently weigh one hundred and eighty pounds, <v Speaker 2>with the goal weight of one hundred and sixty's a night. <v Speaker 2>Side note, I started at GLP one two months ago, <v Speaker 2>so I already am in a calorie deficit. Thank you <v Speaker 2>for your advice. <v Speaker 1>Okay, Jennifer, thank you for writing in. And if you <v Speaker 1>have been doing multi day fasts followed by one meal <v Speaker 1>a day and then back to longer fast, then yeah, <v Speaker 1>I would be very concerned that your metabolism is tanked, <v Speaker 1>and so we want to rev that back up. So <v Speaker 1>what I'm really concerned with the most is you do <v Speaker 1>a lot of talking about your down day and that <v Speaker 1>you are lifting heavy five times a week, you're trying <v Speaker 1>to hit ten thousand steps a day, and you are <v Speaker 1>really really active. And then you talk about your down day, <v Speaker 1>but you know what, you didn't mention at all your <v Speaker 1>up day. So your question, should you be eating more <v Speaker 1>on the down day to factor in the number of <v Speaker 1>calories burn? No, However, I think you need to maybe <v Speaker 1>rest a little bit more, just in general. I am <v Speaker 1>not a fitness expert by any means, but I know <v Speaker 1>that the general recommendation is that you need to have <v Speaker 1>rest days in there, so you need to give your <v Speaker 1>body time to recover, and so I would keep that <v Speaker 1>in mind. If we are under eating and going hard <v Speaker 1>with working out, that is not good for us. It <v Speaker 1>makes our bodies think something terrible is going on. We're <v Speaker 1>in some kind of a stressful famine and a war <v Speaker 1>and you're having to run from the enemy. I don't know, <v Speaker 1>you know, think about how times would have been in <v Speaker 1>the past, so that is a lot going on. Instead <v Speaker 1>of thinking about how you need to get into more <v Speaker 1>of a calorie deficit, I think you need to be <v Speaker 1>thinking about how how can you let your body know <v Speaker 1>that you are safe and well and that you are <v Speaker 1>well nourished, and so I don't know if you have <v Speaker 1>the second edition of Delay, don't deny, but if not, <v Speaker 1>go ahead and get it. And I'd like for you <v Speaker 1>to read the ADF chapter. You need to make sure <v Speaker 1>that you're having sufficient up days and I would recommend <v Speaker 1>three nourishing meals breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And you need <v Speaker 1>to not be in a calorie deficit on the upday. <v Speaker 1>You need to be in a calorie surplus. You need <v Speaker 1>to eat more. The research on ADF shows that people <v Speaker 1>were instructed to eat higher than the there's bodies daily <v Speaker 1>chloric needs. So you need to really figure out how <v Speaker 1>you're going to let your body know that you're not <v Speaker 1>in any kind of danger that you're not having you know, <v Speaker 1>a reason that your body would need to shut your <v Speaker 1>metabolism down anymore, and really pay attention to how you're feeling. <v Speaker 1>As far as the GLP one, I don't know why <v Speaker 1>you started the GLP one. You know, if you're diabetic <v Speaker 1>or if you have other health issues and your doctor <v Speaker 1>put you on the JLP one for that, but if <v Speaker 1>it's strictly for weight loss, if you're only doing a <v Speaker 1>GLP one for weight loss, and you're also hitting your <v Speaker 1>workout so hard and your carnivore and you're doing down days. <v Speaker 1>You really need to focus on those up days and <v Speaker 1>a GLP one might not be right for you right now. Again, <v Speaker 1>I am not your doctor. I don't know why you're <v Speaker 1>on it, but if the only reason is for weight loss, <v Speaker 1>I would really think about that, and you know, maybe <v Speaker 1>having like a restoration period where you're really focused on <v Speaker 1>healing your body from the metabolic damage that all that <v Speaker 1>restriction may have caused. Am I phrasing it well? Sherriet? <v Speaker 1>And I feel like I'm stealing all around in. <v Speaker 2>My concern anytime anybody reaches out to me about, you know, <v Speaker 2>being on the GLP ones, and often they're trying to <v Speaker 2>get off of them, but first they want to adapt <v Speaker 2>to ADF because they want to use that as their <v Speaker 2>tool once they get off of the GOLP one. I <v Speaker 2>concern with being on a GLP one and having a <v Speaker 2>diminished appetite is can you eat enough on an up <v Speaker 2>day to get the metabolic boost that you're looking for <v Speaker 2>from that program? You know, from that protocol, right and <v Speaker 2>so you know, with what you said, you are supposed <v Speaker 2>to be eating an excess of a normal daily caloric <v Speaker 2>intake on the up day, and if the GLP one <v Speaker 2>is not supporting that, then ADF may not be the <v Speaker 2>right protocol. You may need more like a daily eating <v Speaker 2>window so that you can ensure that you are fueling <v Speaker 2>well and you are you know, protecting your muscles and <v Speaker 2>you are able to heal your muscles after all of <v Speaker 2>the weight training that you're doing. So you know, that's <v Speaker 2>just really something to look at. You know, can you <v Speaker 2>lose weight quickly by restricting calories and you know, really <v Speaker 2>cutting back, yes, but is it sustainable and is it <v Speaker 2>beneficial to your metabolism in the long run? Usually the <v Speaker 2>answer is going to be no, Right, So yeah, I think, <v Speaker 2>you know, really trying to make sure that you have <v Speaker 2>some balance in there is exactly is really important. <v Speaker 1>It really really is. And I get it because I <v Speaker 1>was the person who wanted to lose weight so quickly <v Speaker 1>that I did all those restrictive things back in the <v Speaker 1>day before I understood how our body worked, before I <v Speaker 1>understood what happens with prolonged over restriction and how that <v Speaker 1>actually always backfires because your body is trying to protect <v Speaker 1>you and there are people who can white knucklet through <v Speaker 1>an overly restrictive approach for a long long time. But <v Speaker 1>you're doing metabolic damage. You can fix that. But we <v Speaker 1>really want to make sure we are not accidentally or <v Speaker 1>intentionally over restricting to the degree that it's gonna harm <v Speaker 1>us and cause that rebound effect. Right right, And now <v Speaker 1>it's time for our segment called what's Your Why. Most <v Speaker 1>of us have weight loss in mind, and that is <v Speaker 1>a great reason to begin. It's fine for that to <v Speaker 1>be part of your why, but there is so much <v Speaker 1>more to what intermittent fasting can do for us beyond <v Speaker 1>weight loss. And that is why when I wrote twenty <v Speaker 1>eight day fast start day by day, I asked readers <v Speaker 1>to craft their why statement before beginning. When your why <v Speaker 1>is deeper than weight loss alone, you're more likely to <v Speaker 1>find long term success and view intermittent fasting as a lifestyle. <v Speaker 2>This week, we have a why from snowy northern Michigan, <v Speaker 2>and we are recording this in April, so I hope <v Speaker 2>it's not still snowy there North. <v Speaker 1>It's been snowy. It has been crazy snowy. I don't know. <v Speaker 1>We had We were at the baseball game on Saturday <v Speaker 1>in Winston Salem. It was ninety degrees at the baseball game. <v Speaker 1>I'm eating ice, eating ice, eating ice. Then the temperature <v Speaker 1>dropped like so much. <v Speaker 2>We woke up. <v Speaker 1>It was fifty degrees. Yeah, and in some places we're <v Speaker 1>having snow. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was in the eighties here on Sunday. And <v Speaker 2>then when I got off work Monday morning, it was <v Speaker 2>like forty two degrees outside. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was crazy. <v Speaker 2>So it was nuts. <v Speaker 1>We had to wear jackets and my ugs and. <v Speaker 2>I just my coworker. The other day, I said, I <v Speaker 2>don't know if it's that I'm older and I'm paying <v Speaker 2>more attention to the weather, or the weather's just getting weirder. <v Speaker 1>Well, I'm doing this new thing. Everybody should do this <v Speaker 1>because it's fun. Do you have like a million photos <v Speaker 1>on your phone, like from over the years, screenshots, weird things. <v Speaker 1>I'm like, I gotta start cleaning these up. So every <v Speaker 1>day I searched by the date. So like today we're <v Speaker 1>recording this April twenty second. I searched my phone on <v Speaker 1>the photo for April twenty second. Sho just me every <v Speaker 1>photo I ever took on April twenty second. Oh, and <v Speaker 1>you're starting to get rid of them, and I'm going <v Speaker 1>through them, and it's fun but I'm seeing things. But <v Speaker 1>also I can delete a bunch of stuff right, and <v Speaker 1>stuff I don't need anymore, like you know, my grocery <v Speaker 1>list whatever. But I saw one. It was today. I <v Speaker 1>saw one I'd taken a like a shot of the weather, <v Speaker 1>and it was when I was still teaching, and it <v Speaker 1>was like seven in the morning and it was forty <v Speaker 1>two degrees. I was like, I must have been complaining <v Speaker 1>about bus duty. But on this date, back when I <v Speaker 1>was still teaching, it was forty two degrees and I <v Speaker 1>was not happy about it anyway. So hopefully the snow <v Speaker 1>will be over soon for all of us. We're ours <v Speaker 1>is over, but Michigan, we don't know. <v Speaker 2>Alra, she says, I am a healthy, non medicid fifty <v Speaker 2>nine year old yoga teacher. Daily walker and I have <v Speaker 2>a wonderful relationship. I have noticed several non scale victories <v Speaker 2>in the past four months. I noticed these in the <v Speaker 2>first month. Number one, the benefit for me is better energy. <v Speaker 2>I have suffered from horrible fatigue for many years. Number two, <v Speaker 2>it's a noticeable decrease in inflamma of my joints, at <v Speaker 2>belly and in general. Number three the diet, mind decision fatigue. <v Speaker 2>Too much thought about meals is over. I love food, <v Speaker 2>and I love my meals even more. I didn't think <v Speaker 2>it was possible to love food more. Number four, I'm <v Speaker 2>faster and I can focus better, such as playing pickleball <v Speaker 2>or hiking. The bonus is I love how my clothes <v Speaker 2>feel and I look forward to possibly wearing a size ten. <v Speaker 2>These are my continued whis. I am so grateful for <v Speaker 2>your teachings and contributions. <v Speaker 1>I love it. <v Speaker 2>Yeah. You know, it's funny because I think a lot <v Speaker 2>of people when they start, they're like, what do you <v Speaker 2>mean was my why I want to lose weights? Right? <v Speaker 2>But then pretty quickly you start seeing all of these <v Speaker 2>other benefits, and then so many people are like, I <v Speaker 2>don't care if I never lose another pound. I wouldn't <v Speaker 2>quit fasting because I don't want to lose all of <v Speaker 2>this exactly. Yep, all right, So we have a question <v Speaker 2>set in by volume eating in Georgia. Hello Jin and Cherry. <v Speaker 2>Thank you for all your words of wisdom and sharing <v Speaker 2>your knowledge and experience with your amazing eye of journey. <v Speaker 2>I have a quick question. Would a one hour meal <v Speaker 2>eating window during the week be detrimental to my weight <v Speaker 2>loss journey. If on weekends I have a four to <v Speaker 2>five hour eating window, I ask, because, like Gin, I'm <v Speaker 2>a volume eater. My dinner meals are things like grilled chicken, <v Speaker 2>a sweet potato and salad packed with veggies, or two <v Speaker 2>beef hot dogs with chili and cheese and a salad, <v Speaker 2>or two bunless burgers with avocado, tomato and onion with <v Speaker 2>air fire French fries. Sometimes it might be salad, spaghetti <v Speaker 2>and garlic, bread and green beans. Breakfast for dinner that <v Speaker 2>consists of toast, two eggs, two bacon, two sausage, and <v Speaker 2>sometimes grips. Most nights I close my window with two oranges. <v Speaker 2>I do not feel in any way that I am <v Speaker 2>under eating. I am currently thirty seven years old, five <v Speaker 2>foot seven and one hundred and eighty pounds. My goal <v Speaker 2>is to stay in the one fifty five to one <v Speaker 2>sixty five range for me maintenance. In April of twenty <v Speaker 2>twenty three, I weighed two hundred and fifty seven pounds, <v Speaker 2>so I have already come a long way, and I <v Speaker 2>am so grateful. I am a daily wier, but I <v Speaker 2>haven't been writing it down. Thank you all for your <v Speaker 2>help side note, I am currently on a mission to <v Speaker 2>lose the twenty to twenty five pounds I regained after <v Speaker 2>losing ninety nine. I compared a picture of myself when <v Speaker 2>I got to one hundred and eighty pounds for the <v Speaker 2>first time in October of twenty twenty three and one <v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty pounds March twenty twenty six, and the <v Speaker 2>body recomposition is amazing. I look so much thinner. <v Speaker 1>All right. So this is a great question, and I <v Speaker 1>hate to say it. It's unanswerable because it depends. You said, <v Speaker 1>would a one hour, one meal eating window during the <v Speaker 1>week be detrimental to my weight loss journey? If on <v Speaker 1>weekends I have a four to five hour eating window. <v Speaker 1>The answer could be yes, the answer could be no. <v Speaker 1>And it all depends on your body and what your <v Speaker 1>body perceived is going on. So it is possible that <v Speaker 1>I like, shoot, I just talked about that meal we <v Speaker 1>ate when we were in d c Or we were <v Speaker 1>in Alexandria, actually Alexandria, Virginia, just over the river. That <v Speaker 1>was a pretty large meal. <v Speaker 2>That's a lot of food. <v Speaker 1>I had a you know, if I was a calorie counter, <v Speaker 1>that was a lot of calories my body absolutely was <v Speaker 1>not over restricted that day, but it's hard to know <v Speaker 1>for sure for you and your body. So I also <v Speaker 1>felt way too full. That was too much volume for me. <v Speaker 1>I don't think I can eat comfortably in one hour <v Speaker 1>and not accidentally overrestrict. If I'm eating comfortably, if I'm <v Speaker 1>eating to the point that I'm overly full and feel terrible, <v Speaker 1>then I could probably do it. But that's why I <v Speaker 1>was always within my daily four to five hour window, <v Speaker 1>thinking of it as a multi course meal, because that <v Speaker 1>kept me from feeling that overly full feeling. But I <v Speaker 1>was still able to get enough food. So here's what <v Speaker 1>I want you to do. I want you to start <v Speaker 1>writing it down. You said you're weighing daily, but you're <v Speaker 1>not writing it down. I want you to write it <v Speaker 1>down or get an app like Happy Scale. I'm actually <v Speaker 1>not writing it down right now. I'm using happy Scale <v Speaker 1>to see what's happening with my fluctuations, and I don't <v Speaker 1>have any goals. I'm just seeing what's happening since I <v Speaker 1>haven't weighed since you know, twenty seventeen until like a <v Speaker 1>few weeks ago, so I'm just seeing what my weight <v Speaker 1>is doing, how it's going up. And down, and I'm <v Speaker 1>looking at my trend in Happy Scale seeing what that <v Speaker 1>trend is doing. And so I want you to have <v Speaker 1>some sort of tool that lets you know what your <v Speaker 1>trend is doing. And honestly, if I were trying to <v Speaker 1>lose weight, I did like the writing it down better <v Speaker 1>than the way Happy Scale like a just sit every <v Speaker 1>day and it shows you, now your trend is this, <v Speaker 1>Now your trend is that, and it varies every day, <v Speaker 1>so the trend is fluctuating also, which is a little <v Speaker 1>bit much for me. I liked once a week finding <v Speaker 1>the weekly average and there's one number and I can <v Speaker 1>compare it to last week's weekly average. That was just <v Speaker 1>one concrete moment and I didn't have to worry at <v Speaker 1>all about what was going on the other days. So <v Speaker 1>reread weighing chapter of either Delayed on Deny or Fast <v Speaker 1>Feast repeat. Make sure you're calculating your weekly average and <v Speaker 1>see what's happening. If you are losing at the rate <v Speaker 1>of one half of a pound per week or more, <v Speaker 1>then you know, or if your trend is going down <v Speaker 1>steadily week after week, then you know that your weight <v Speaker 1>loss journey is progressing. If you plateau, then you know <v Speaker 1>that what you're doing is detrimental for your weight loss. Right, <v Speaker 1>If you're not losing weight, it isn't working. If you <v Speaker 1>are losing weight, it is working. But you have to <v Speaker 1>determine that first and see, can I, in my mind <v Speaker 1>conceive of the potential that someone could do well with <v Speaker 1>one hour during the week and four to five hours <v Speaker 1>on the weekend. Possibly, I don't think I would. It <v Speaker 1>wouldn't work well for me. Is it possible that could <v Speaker 1>work well for you? It's possible, But it's also possible <v Speaker 1>that that that will to a plateau because that is <v Speaker 1>a pretty short window. What do you think, Sherry? <v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I just while you were talking, just <v Speaker 2>ran one of our meals through, okay, one of my <v Speaker 2>I did the breakfast for dinner, okay, okay, So if <v Speaker 2>you have three quarters a cup of cheese grits with <v Speaker 2>your two slices of sour dough, toast, two eggs too, bacon, <v Speaker 2>two sausage, and then I included the two oranges. You said, <v Speaker 2>you close your window with that intake for that day <v Speaker 2>with cheese grits is nine hundred and forty three calories. <v Speaker 2>That is a low calorie eating day. Yeah, so I <v Speaker 2>think It's hard to say is an hour sufficient, is it? <v Speaker 2>I think it has to do more with number one. <v Speaker 2>I think that they're by having a broader eating window. <v Speaker 2>I think you're really giving your body the message that <v Speaker 2>food is abundant, available, and incoming. I think when you <v Speaker 2>lock into a really short window, your body senses that <v Speaker 2>even if you eat a bunch at one time, you know, <v Speaker 2>your body can't use all of that at one time, <v Speaker 2>So it's shuttling a bunch of that away into storage. <v Speaker 2>When you're eating, you know, a high volume food and <v Speaker 2>a really short period of time, it just can't handle <v Speaker 2>all of that energy at once. So I think you <v Speaker 2>would be better off spreading that food across a longer window. <v Speaker 2>And I know some people who are volume eaters think <v Speaker 2>that they need a short window as a way to <v Speaker 2>put a stop on their eating. But I also think <v Speaker 2>that if you open your window with a window opener <v Speaker 2>and then you wait a little bit to have your <v Speaker 2>I feel like you can go into the meal with <v Speaker 2>a little bit more. You're not so ravenous when you <v Speaker 2>started eating. You've already given your body a little bit <v Speaker 2>of nutrition. Your brain isn't like, oh my gosh, I <v Speaker 2>haven't eaten all day. I need to eat everything right <v Speaker 2>now and inhale it. So you know, some days I <v Speaker 2>have an hour window. You know, the other day we <v Speaker 2>ordered Mexican food and I had beerria tacos, and I <v Speaker 2>had some beans and I had some guacamolee and I <v Speaker 2>was absolutely one hundred percent satisfied. It was rich food. <v Speaker 2>It was more food than I normally eat, more rich <v Speaker 2>food than I normally eat, and my body said it <v Speaker 2>was done. It was also a day where I turned <v Speaker 2>around for night shift, so I'd only fasted about seventeen hours. <v Speaker 2>When I ate, and I ate it, I was done. <v Speaker 2>It was like five o'clock and I'm like, I really <v Speaker 2>have no desire to eat anything else. So I went <v Speaker 2>ahead and my window. But yesterday I had a little <v Speaker 2>bit longer window with a little bit more food in it, <v Speaker 2>and it balanced out what I did the day before. <v Speaker 2>I was naturally hungrier earlier because I closed earlier. And <v Speaker 2>you know, and so I think this is where really <v Speaker 2>leaning into how are you feeling? What are your hunger <v Speaker 2>qes telling you? You know, if it's possible to widen <v Speaker 2>that window some days and sort of spread your food out, <v Speaker 2>I don't think it can hurt you to do that, right, right? <v Speaker 1>I think so, And I do wonder why she wants <v Speaker 1>to have a one hour window during the week. Is <v Speaker 1>it her schedule or just I don't know why she <v Speaker 1>wants to do that, But as you said, we naturally <v Speaker 1>vary based on hunger from day to day. When you <v Speaker 1>said Buria tacos, I finally had some real Berria tacos <v Speaker 1>that were delicious. <v Speaker 2>Oh good. Yes. <v Speaker 1>In Winston Salem, a friend of hours from college, one <v Speaker 1>of my sorority sisters who's a really good friend of <v Speaker 1>Chris's because she was the sweetheart for his fraternity. So <v Speaker 1>she came and stayed at Chris's condo for the weekend <v Speaker 1>for the baseball game. She loved sports. But we walked <v Speaker 1>over and had Mexican food before the baseball game. Baseball <v Speaker 1>season really will mess up your window, because you know <v Speaker 1>you don't want to eat at the game. So I <v Speaker 1>had just like you. I had the Beerria tacos, We <v Speaker 1>had chips, we had salsa, I had beans and rice. <v Speaker 1>I was really really full and that was all I <v Speaker 1>had for the day. So then the next day I <v Speaker 1>was hungrier, right, So we ate a little earlier. Windows <v Speaker 1>stretched a little longer, so finding that balances of. <v Speaker 2>Your window opener, I would guess was more substantial than <v Speaker 2>a typical window opener. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I opened with a meal. The next day I <v Speaker 1>was like, I got to eat something. We opened with <v Speaker 1>a meal, and then we had another baseball game, because <v Speaker 1>baseball games are forever. And then after the baseball game, though, <v Speaker 1>I had something else because I knew it hadn't. It <v Speaker 1>felt like I didn't want two short windows. I felt <v Speaker 1>like I needed more food, so I ate more food. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think what would be you know, if <v Speaker 2>your reason for doing the one hour window is that <v Speaker 2>you feel like maybe it will speed up your weight <v Speaker 2>loss or it will help you have better control of <v Speaker 2>your eating in your window, I think you need to <v Speaker 2>address that. You know, if you if you know, if <v Speaker 2>you are concerned that you are over eating in your <v Speaker 2>window and you want to do a one hour window <v Speaker 2>to control that eating. I don't think the one hour <v Speaker 2>window is the way to do that, because that doesn't <v Speaker 2>give you the opportunity to really lean in and hear <v Speaker 2>your body's true satiety signals. Now you're just eating to <v Speaker 2>get it eaten and get that window closed back up again. <v Speaker 2>As opposed to you know, eating a little food, waking <v Speaker 2>up your appetite, getting out of katosis, and then having <v Speaker 2>you know your main meat, and then leaving a little <v Speaker 2>time to assess satiety and determining whether or not you <v Speaker 2>truly need more food before closing your window. I'm just <v Speaker 2>a fan of just a more relaxed window. Spread your <v Speaker 2>food out, tune into satiety, and make sure you're not <v Speaker 2>short changing yourself exactly. <v Speaker 1>All right, We have a question from Genie from Kansas <v Speaker 1>Hygen and Sherry. I have a question which stems from <v Speaker 1>episode one hundred and forty about fasting blood work. I <v Speaker 1>understand that it's not a good idea to drink black <v Speaker 1>coffee right before you go to get blood drawn for <v Speaker 1>your fasting insulin. Does this apply to drinking coffee and <v Speaker 1>water throughout the morning to finish the coffee around eleven <v Speaker 1>and then go get the fasting insulin lab work drawn <v Speaker 1>later in the afternoon after three pm. I typically drink <v Speaker 1>black coffee until mid morning to finally finish the coffee <v Speaker 1>by eleven fifteen. I am scheduling lab work most of <v Speaker 1>the time after work. I thought it would be okay <v Speaker 1>since all I drank was water and black coffee. Should <v Speaker 1>I be scheduling lab work in the mornings to only <v Speaker 1>drink water and no coffee so I do not risk <v Speaker 1>having false indicators with a fasting insulin and day one C. <v Speaker 1>Thank you for your time answering my question. I love <v Speaker 1>listening to your podcast. I get a lot of questions <v Speaker 1>answered while listening to you, ladies. God bless you both. <v Speaker 2>Okay, an A and C. You can have tested at <v Speaker 2>any time, day or night. You do not have to <v Speaker 2>be fasted. <v Speaker 1>For it, and don't word about the coffee. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, because what it is is it's giving you sort <v Speaker 2>of a like, let's call it a summary of what <v Speaker 2>your blood glucose has been doing for like the three <v Speaker 2>months preceding that blood draw, so it's not going to <v Speaker 2>vary so much based off of what you've done that day. <v Speaker 2>The fasting insulin is completely different. It is very it <v Speaker 2>is very variable and lots of things can impact it, <v Speaker 2>and you need to be one hundred percent completely fasted <v Speaker 2>for eight to twelve hours prior to the test. Personally, <v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not going to go all day and <v Speaker 2>go through the stress of the day and all of <v Speaker 2>that and then try to see if my fasting insulin <v Speaker 2>is accurate in the afternoon. I'm going to get up <v Speaker 2>in the morning before my day starts, before I've had coffee. <v Speaker 2>I'm going to go then, and I'm going to get <v Speaker 2>my fasting insulin. Not to mention, I want a good <v Speaker 2>indicator of what my fasting insulin is doing, like, not <v Speaker 2>when I'm deeply deeply fasted, because we know it should <v Speaker 2>be pretty low. Then I want a good average of <v Speaker 2>what it's doing most of the time. So if I'm <v Speaker 2>fasting nineteen hours out of the day, you know the <v Speaker 2>midpoint of that is going to be around nine to <v Speaker 2>ten hours. So that's about the time I want to <v Speaker 2>get my fasting insulin drawn. I want to know how <v Speaker 2>is it respond to my morning blood sugars, which are <v Speaker 2>typically higher. I want to know what it looks like <v Speaker 2>while I still have while I'm still burning through glycogen, <v Speaker 2>before I get into fat burning, when we know that <v Speaker 2>insulin is much lower. So to me, if you want <v Speaker 2>the most accurate fasting insulin, you would go have it <v Speaker 2>done in the morning when you're somewhere in that like <v Speaker 2>ten twelve hour fasted range. No coffee, no exercise, just <v Speaker 2>get up, get it done first thing. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's great advice. And also it's really <v Speaker 1>nice to go ahead and get the fasting blood glucose <v Speaker 1>done at the same time so you have both numbers. <v Speaker 1>Absolutely you can see because sometimes people will come in <v Speaker 1>and ask us questions about their fasting insulin. They'll say, <v Speaker 1>I got my fasting insulin done and it was a <v Speaker 1>one point nine or some one point seven or something <v Speaker 1>really low, because optimal is like two point five to five, <v Speaker 1>and it'll be below optimal, and they'll say something like, <v Speaker 1>should I be worried? <v Speaker 2>Well, we don't know. <v Speaker 1>We can't tell you that. But if you have a <v Speaker 1>fasting glucose done at the same time, that gives you <v Speaker 1>a much bigger picture. Like if your fasting insulin is <v Speaker 1>very very low below the optimal and your fasting glucose <v Speaker 1>is also very low at the time, that's less of <v Speaker 1>a red flag. But if your fasting insulin is very <v Speaker 1>very low below optimal and your fasting blood glucose is elevated, <v Speaker 1>that indicates that possibly your pancreas is not keeping up <v Speaker 1>with enough insulin to keep your blood sugar low. So <v Speaker 1>having them at the same time is a really important <v Speaker 1>snapshot to see. So if you can get them boats <v Speaker 1>done at the same time, that'd be great. And again, <v Speaker 1>you know we're not giving you medical advice, and we <v Speaker 1>really don't like to analyze your blood work in the <v Speaker 1>community anyway, but understanding optimals two point five to five <v Speaker 1>and then if it's lower than optimal, looking at at <v Speaker 1>your fasted blood glucose at the same time to see <v Speaker 1>if that's also good, that's probably not a problem. And <v Speaker 1>just really having this conversation with your doctor who knows <v Speaker 1>your health history. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you being if you have those numbers, then <v Speaker 2>you can plug them into a homer Ir calculator, I <v Speaker 2>like one from the blood code and you get those <v Speaker 2>two numbers drawn drawn at the same time, and then <v Speaker 2>plug those two numbers in because they they're sort of <v Speaker 2>interdependent on each other, so that and then they will <v Speaker 2>give you an insulin resistance score and and that can <v Speaker 2>be really beneficial for determining like Okay, I've been fasting <v Speaker 2>for four years, but you know it's still saying that <v Speaker 2>I'm insulin resistant. That's where you know, like okay, it <v Speaker 2>might be changed time to change your fasting protocol or <v Speaker 2>your food quality or both. <v Speaker 1>Right exactly, And that's just really important to have that <v Speaker 1>information to know if you need to make the changes. <v Speaker 1>And by the way, don't come in the community and say, <v Speaker 1>here's my numbers, tell me what my insulin resistance score is. <v Speaker 1>We're not going to do that. We're going to say, <v Speaker 1>here's where you look for google homa ir, homa homa <v Speaker 1>dash ir and the blood code is the one Sherry likes. <v Speaker 1>That one's good to and they will analyze it for <v Speaker 1>you and tell you. Any good teacher is not just <v Speaker 1>going to give you the answer. We want you to <v Speaker 1>figure it out, how to how to apply that information, <v Speaker 1>how to know if it's good or not so homa ir, <v Speaker 1>search it, put in your numbers, calculate it, and then <v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of a lot of empowerment <v Speaker 1>with figuring out for yourself and reading the analysis and <v Speaker 1>then understanding it rather than just me or Sherry saying yeah, <v Speaker 1>that's great or no that's not. You know, how do <v Speaker 1>you go through the process? Is the process? You need <v Speaker 1>to figure that out yourself because that's how you really <v Speaker 1>understand it. All Right, Before we get to our tweak <v Speaker 1>of the week, I want to take a minute to <v Speaker 1>tell you about the fast Feast repeat app and website. <v Speaker 2>Eight. <v Speaker 1>If you are struggling with food confusion or diet brain <v Speaker 1>when it comes to what to eat in your eating window, <v Speaker 1>or if you know you need to make changes but <v Speaker 1>you don't know where to begin. The Eat Like a <v Speaker 1>grown Up program is for you. It's a fifty two <v Speaker 1>week learning journey that helps you to finally build a peaceful, <v Speaker 1>confident relationship with food without dieting, guilt, or overwhelm. And <v Speaker 1>it's only available in the Fast Feast Repeat app. So <v Speaker 1>join me in the app for the grown Up Year <v Speaker 1>fifty two weeks to listen, play, and nourish. Each week, <v Speaker 1>you'll watch a short video lesson and download a simple <v Speaker 1>practical mission designed to help you listen to your body, <v Speaker 1>play with your food in a joyful way, and nourish <v Speaker 1>yourself with calm intention. You'll learn how to move past <v Speaker 1>emotional eating, understand your hunger cues, make meals deeply satisfying, <v Speaker 1>and fall back in love with real food, all while <v Speaker 1>connecting with a community that's growing right along beside you <v Speaker 1>in the app. So if you're ready for transformation that <v Speaker 1>unfolds gently but meaningfully over time, this is where it begins. <v Speaker 1>Go to app dot Fast Feast Repeat dot com to <v Speaker 1>join or you can find the fast Feast Repeat app <v Speaker 1>in the app store that works with your phone. Along <v Speaker 1>with they Eat like a grown up fifty two week program, <v Speaker 1>you'll find an ever growing library of intermittent fasting resources <v Speaker 1>as well. Go to app dot fast Feast Repeat dot <v Speaker 1>com to join us or download the fast Feast Repeat <v Speaker 1>app today. There is also a link in the show notes. <v Speaker 1>And now it's time for our tweak of the week. <v Speaker 1>You know, I always say tweak it till it's easy, <v Speaker 1>But the tweak that works for me might not be <v Speaker 1>the one that works for you. And that's why it's <v Speaker 1>super helpful to hear how other intermittent fasters are making <v Speaker 1>intermittent fasting work for them. This is from Gail. Gail says, <v Speaker 1>yesterday I completed twenty eight days of intermittent fasting. This <v Speaker 1>was my fourth time starting, and the first time I <v Speaker 1>tweaked it till it was easy. To say it was <v Speaker 1>effortless is not quite true. But this time I never struggled. <v Speaker 1>And by the way, I would like to say, life <v Speaker 1>is just not effortless. I have days that don't feel effortless, <v Speaker 1>and I've got to. <v Speaker 2>Put into effort. <v Speaker 1>Right, there's effort involved anything involves effort, but back when <v Speaker 1>I was eating all day, took a lot more effort. <v Speaker 1>So it's just some when I had to make decisions <v Speaker 1>about food from the moment I woke up to the <v Speaker 1>time I went to bed, that required a whole lot <v Speaker 1>of effort instead as a faster A little bit of <v Speaker 1>effort here, a little bit of effort there, but it's <v Speaker 1>a whole lot less anyway. I just wanted to say that, <v Speaker 1>but I'm glad that Gail has not struggled as much, <v Speaker 1>she said. I kept to nineteen five, planning healthy, balanced <v Speaker 1>meals both at home and at restaurants, and I avoided <v Speaker 1>ultra processed foods whenever possible. I love creamy coffee, but <v Speaker 1>I waited to have it when I opened my window, <v Speaker 1>and I was satisfied with frothy black coffee from mine <v Speaker 1>espresso machine. I think the biggest shift this time was <v Speaker 1>realizing I don't have to eat to be social. Adjusting <v Speaker 1>my plan to social events with others derailed me in <v Speaker 1>the past. I ate when my window was open, but <v Speaker 1>never felt I had to eat because I was in <v Speaker 1>a social situation. Only once did a friend ask me <v Speaker 1>if I was going to eat a scone with her, <v Speaker 1>and I told her I would save it for later. <v Speaker 1>My body reacted very favorably with an eight pound loss <v Speaker 1>during my restart. I felt better hydrated because I was <v Speaker 1>drinking more water and less coffee, and I slept better. <v Speaker 1>I adopted a new dog during this time, and I <v Speaker 1>am walking her over a mile every day. I'm also <v Speaker 1>strength training and swimming each week. I never stopped believing <v Speaker 1>in the health benefits of intermittent fasting, and I continued <v Speaker 1>to listen to Gen and Sherry on the podcasts, knowing <v Speaker 1>one day I would find my way back to intermittent fasting. <v Speaker 1>Thank you and for your steady presence and wise advice. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>I think that's really struggle for so many people sharing <v Speaker 1>the eating to be social, that can be the hardest thing, <v Speaker 1>especially if the food is free. I'm gonna brag on <v Speaker 1>Chris for a minute here. He went to that event. <v Speaker 1>It was his work event in Alexandria and DC last week, <v Speaker 1>and they had like a full on sit down lunch <v Speaker 1>at one of his favorite Alexandria restaurants. He used to <v Speaker 1>live in Alexandria for a long time and it was <v Speaker 1>one of his favorite restaurants and the company took everyone <v Speaker 1>to lunch and it was like a multi course meal. <v Speaker 1>He like sent me a picture of the menu and <v Speaker 1>I'm like, ooh, that all looks really really good. And <v Speaker 1>then he showed me a picture of his lunch, which <v Speaker 1>was guess what, black coffee. <v Speaker 2>Oh, that's sad. <v Speaker 1>He sat there at his favorite restaurant in Alexandria and <v Speaker 1>had black coffee and had black coffee and it was free. <v Speaker 1>It was free meal, and he could have chosen to eat, <v Speaker 1>but they also had like a catered dinner that night <v Speaker 1>that they were going to. So he's like, I don't <v Speaker 1>need to eat two giant meals in a day, and <v Speaker 1>even though it's free, I'm going to drink my coffee instead, <v Speaker 1>And so he waited and just had the one meal. <v Speaker 1>And that's that's really hard. He came home from the <v Speaker 1>trip and got on this skill and he had not <v Speaker 1>gained any weight at all. So he managed to maintain <v Speaker 1>through all the work trips and the social events. And <v Speaker 1>that's not always easy. <v Speaker 2>That's fantastic. <v Speaker 1>But you just have to decide, right, and we can <v Speaker 1>do it. We can say no, and it feels really powerful, it. <v Speaker 2>Really does, you know, And we live we live in <v Speaker 2>a world where food has become a social experience, right, <v Speaker 2>and it's great for it to be a social experience, <v Speaker 2>But when you're eating window is right, and you know, <v Speaker 2>if it's at lunch and it's super important and you <v Speaker 2>don't want to miss out and you want to partake <v Speaker 2>or whatever, you always have the option of moving or <v Speaker 2>eating window and having a lunch eating window that day, <v Speaker 2>or maybe you know and advances is going to happen, <v Speaker 2>and you know you're going to be doing lunch and <v Speaker 2>you know that you're also going to be doing dinner <v Speaker 2>with your family because you know yourself and you know <v Speaker 2>that you won't keep your window closed. You always have <v Speaker 2>the option the day before to do a downish day, <v Speaker 2>and you know, plan and prepare for an uppish day <v Speaker 2>on the day that you want to have two big meals. <v Speaker 2>So there's always ways to adapt and adjust. And then <v Speaker 2>the other thing I wanted to say was we don't <v Speaker 2>people are uncomfortable standing out or being different or doing <v Speaker 2>something different, and so a lot of times when they're like, well, <v Speaker 2>I didn't want to be the only one not eating, <v Speaker 2>they feel like the people at the table maybe are <v Speaker 2>going to judge them, or they're going to have to <v Speaker 2>explain themselves. But all of the years, what I think <v Speaker 2>I have learned from what people have shared is that <v Speaker 2>when they share with somebody like oh, I'm not eating <v Speaker 2>now because I'm waiting and eating later or whatever, people <v Speaker 2>for the most part don't really care as long as <v Speaker 2>they get to eat. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's true. <v Speaker 2>They don't really care what you're doing at the table. Yeah. <v Speaker 2>And then so many people will say, yeah, I just <v Speaker 2>sat there and I just drank my black coffee or <v Speaker 2>drank an iced tea and nobody said anything to me. <v Speaker 2>So I think a lot of times we make it <v Speaker 2>a bigger deal in our head than it really is. Yeah. <v Speaker 1>The funny part of that is that at that time, <v Speaker 1>I was eighty lunch, I met one of my sorority sisters. <v Speaker 1>She lives in Maryland, and so I drove to Annapolis <v Speaker 1>and we had a very window worthy meal on the <v Speaker 1>water and Annapolis, and I didn't eat till about one thirty. <v Speaker 1>But I knew Chris was going to go to a <v Speaker 1>dinner that night, so I was going to be on <v Speaker 1>my own. So I had a big lunch in around <v Speaker 1>one thirty, and then we met up in the afternoon <v Speaker 1>in between his events. Before his dinner, and he opened <v Speaker 1>his window with a little snack and I had a <v Speaker 1>little Yeah. So I had a giant meal and a <v Speaker 1>little snack, and he had a little snack and a <v Speaker 1>giant meal, and we just shifted and made it work. <v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love that. Yeah, ohway. We love to leave <v Speaker 2>you with inspiration our motivational messages to carry you through <v Speaker 2>the following week. And this week we have a quote <v Speaker 2>from Vivian your mind will always believe everything you tell it. <v Speaker 2>Feed it faith, feed it truth, feed it love, and <v Speaker 2>she wrote thoughts come and go, attached to the ones <v Speaker 2>that heal not hurt. <v Speaker 1>I love that. Thanks so much for listening today. We <v Speaker 1>would love to have you join us in the Delay <v Speaker 1>don Tonight community, where you can interact with both me <v Speaker 1>and Sherry, plus the most supportive bunch of intermittent fasters <v Speaker 1>you'll find anywhere. Go to Jenstevens dot com slash community <v Speaker 1>to join us. <v Speaker 3>Don't forget to subscribe to this podcast to your favorite <v Speaker 3>podcast app, and if you haven't already, please leave us <v Speaker 3>a five star review that helps new listeners find the show, <v Speaker 3>and we really appreciate it. <v Speaker 1>We are a community driven podcast, so to submit your <v Speaker 1>success stories, your questions, your favorite tweak it till It's <v Speaker 1>Easy moments, or anything else you want us to share <v Speaker 1>on the podcast. Go to Fast Feast Repeat dot com <v Speaker 1>slash submit and then listen each week to see if <v Speaker 1>we share your submission or answer your question. <v Speaker 2>Until next week. Thanks for listening.
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