Hour 3 – The World vs USA, Spicy Coaches & Calls

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's not too hard and there's still time for you to go even lower than that. Eight seven to seven three DP show email address DP Atdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. The All Star Games getting a makeover again. So this is what's going to happen. The league announced last night three teams eight players each, two teams made up of American stars, and one international team featuring the best from everywhere else. We do need to find out if we get North America or the world gets North America. I think that the world should get North America. They should get Canada.

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Speaker 7: I think so we're landlocked though, I mean that should be we borded them. Yeah, I think we should get Canada, Mexico, and maybe all the Virgin Islands, even the ones that aren't US.

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Speaker 2: Wow, the league's created something rare for an All Star Game, and that's intrigued when you think about it, because let me take the world. I got Wemby, I got Joker, and I got Yannis, I got Sga, and I got Luca. So that's my starting five, right, So I got Joker, Wemby, Yannis, and then I've got Luca and Sga. I'm ready. And if you're going to play with pride, if there's going to be that pride that we see in the Olympics, I think this could be a lot of fun. I don't think there's a downside to this. That's where I would start, where Okay, you've tried everything else, now let's try something different. Now, what if baseball did this? What if baseball took the United States versus the world? I got ot. I mean, I just imagine I got players Latin America, the d R Japan. That would be interesting too for who we might we might be in trouble, but the US to be in trouble. But if I got the World, and okay, you're gonna get Brunson, Aunt, Steph is kd gonna make the team, Lebron gonna make the team. Like who are the great players that are going to make the United States team this year? Because you got a lot of injuries. You know, Tatum's not going to be able to play, Joe el Embii's not going to be able to play, give me, give me that roster with with the US. Because this is what I was always told whenever I propose this, I'd get that, uh yeah, who's going to be like the seventh player for World? And I go, I just know I got my starting five, and that starting five is better than your starting five. And now if I have two American teams, now I don't just have one great lineup. Now it's dispersed. I got two teams. So you're not gonna get the five best players. You're gonna get maybe two of those five and the other team's gonna get three. That to me is what now depth will be the Key, but it's only eight players, so it's not that deep. Who are the other players that the world would put on this team? Marvin?

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Speaker 4: It would be probably Sagoon from the Rockets and he's really really good Lorie marketing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Pascual Siakam probably not.

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Speaker 4: Teams not that good this year, so he probably won't because what's gonna happen is they're gonna take the twenty four players that will make the All Star team and split them up into three. So it's not gonna behay, We're gonna take you because you're an international.

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Speaker 8: Player, Jamal Murray, Josh Giddy, maybe Giddy, maybe Bushevic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got big guys like Bons, bonus Is and ours.

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Speaker 4: He was born in Portland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say he's not. He's not the world nice acquisition, Yes, yes, yes, time.

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Speaker 6: If you were setting a points bead today and it was I know that that's two different teams to good USA teams. But if you took the best of the best USA versus the world, what would be a reasonable points bread for one to all start game?

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Speaker 2: I would have to know the US rosters because I don't I mean, I don't know how great, it's going to be you might have your your six seventh eighth players are better than the world six seven eight, But my starting five that is all time. And if I look at the leading Canada's f MVP, it's the starting five for the world. Yeah, Paul, USA.

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Speaker 7: Players, possibly Steph Curry, Anthony Edwards, Lebron, Anthony Davis of Healthy, Trey Young, Donovan, Mitch, Devin Booker, Jalen Brown, Durant, Jaren Jackson, Junior Chet Holmgren.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not worried if I'm the world and that's my starting line, if I got Sga and Lucas as my guards at my front line, Joker Gianness Wemby, Yes, Mark.

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Speaker 4: And the thing about the All Star Game, it's the players that are having the best seasons. Yeah, So it might be a one time All Star that's going to be expected to go up against the top five MVP candidates. So you're gonna have maybe I don't know, if og Anenobi makes the team, you'd be like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that might not be a good sign. No the US, Yes, Dylan, it might.

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Speaker 3: Be ambitious, but I genuinely could see that being like a double digit point spread in favor of the.

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Speaker 2: World team who would have Well, see, it's hard to say because I don't know if Lebron's gonna be able to I have to have a roster. I don't think you could just I can't just take the world's roster and then establish a point spread. By the way, Joker went thirty five and fifteen last night. He has gone thirty five and fifteen. Uh, let's see, he did that seven times last year. He's joined Jannis and Wemby with a thirty five to fifteen game. I kind not surprised at his numbers.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you'll see like Kevin Love, who I think is going to join us on the show tomorrow on this day, I don't know what year that was, but he had a thirty thirty gang. He had thirty one points, thirty rebounds, something like that. Marvin thirty one at thirty one, thirty one, thirty one. In modern NBA, that doesn't happen now. In the old days, when there were more misses, you know, guys were shooting you know, forty percent at best. You had guys who would get you know, forty rebounds in the game. But to go thirty thirty in the last twenty years. I mean, what is that fifteen years ago that he did this?

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Speaker 5: Yep, dang.

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. I didn't know he was still in the NBA because Marvin goes, where do you think Kevin Love plays? I go, I don't think he plays, but what roster? And then Marvin told me utah, and I went, okay, all right, and I do have to bring up what I didn't think was inflammatory, but it was certainly perceived that way. I saw a headline here, Kevin Love graciously reacts to Dan Patrick's disappointing Cooper Flag comparison. So this was MSN. I'm not sure MSN dot com do we know what MSN is? Okay, but the author here I said that if you said that Cooper Flag's career was going to be like Kevin Loves, would that be a disappointment? And it probably would be, because this is someone who is scrimmaged against the US Olympic team, held his own. He's eighteen years of age and probably going to make a billion dollars if he stays healthy, Patrick said. Not long after Kevin Love caught what many believed to be a stray shot from Patrick. It wasn't a stray shot. If you're smart enough to understand what I'm saying, the expectation level with Cooper Flag is through the roof. He can have a borderline Hall of Fame career like Kevin Love has had, and he's spent seventeen or eighteen years in the NBA. But this author says that not long after Kevin Love caught what many believed to be a stray shot from Dan Patrick, the seventeen year NBA veteran took to social media to react, and then Kevin Love said, for those who will take this as a shot at me, I don't take it as such. Love said in a tweet. I have his pure skill and Will Cooper is far more talented than I ever was, and if he stays healthy, we'll have a far better career. He could very well have a statue by the time he's finished. I'm a huge fan. Now. Is Kevin Love being nice there? Maybe? But I believe that that is the right answer. Kevin Love has a borderline Hall of Fame career, right, But he was the fifth pick overall, and there weren't great expectations for Kevin. In fact, I remember when he was drafted and Paul he thought he was going to be a star. I thought he would be maybe a fifteen and eight guy. He proved to be a lot more than that. So he should be acknowledged. But if you're not smart enough to understand what I'm saying, Cooper Flag has to be a Hall of Famer. He has to be. You're the number one pick. You're a once in a generation type pick. You're supposed to be great. You're gonna be great. You're gonna be the next. Nobody said that about Kevin Love. So once again, if you understand the context of what I was saying, and if you heard the discussion, instead of oh my god, that's astray, it's not. I'm saying. Cooper Flag. He's already disappointing people, and they forget he's eighteen years of age. He's going to struggle. I think people thought he was going to put up you know, twenty two to ten and five. He's not. And if you watch him play, he's still figuring this out, just like Wemby did. When Wemby came in, and I go, he needs a point guard because he's so out of place, out of position. He doesn't know where he's supposed to go, and you need to put him in positions where he can succeed. The Mavericks started Cooper Flag at point guard. He's not a point guard. Now, did you play that in the preseason? Yes, I watched the games. But this isn't meant to be demeaning to Kevin Love. I've said that he's a borderline Hall of Fame. What I'm saying is our expectation level of Cooper Flag is the problem, not Kevin Long. If you said that Cooper Flag ends up with Kevin Love's stats and his career, I would say that's a good career. But that's because I understand the game and I understand what the expectation level should be. But for somebody who's not able to understand, hey, he's got to be, no doubt, first ballot Hall of Famer. He was going to be. He was good enough to play on the Olympic team. By those who were there at those practices, nobody had a doubt about him. Nobody said, you know, Kevin Love's probably going to be a guy could get thirty thirty in a game. You know, he's probably going to be an All Star guy. You know he's gonna be a borderline hall. No one said that. I thought Oj Mayo was going to be better than him in that draft. Pauline and I were going back and forth. I'm like, I'm going to take GoJ Mayo. I liked OJ though, Yeah, well that OJ Yeah, Pauline.

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Speaker 7: You know, if you're going to compare that comparison with Kevin Love, it'd be like if Trevor Lawrence coming out of college and you said, you know, if Trevor Lawrence has a career like Alex Smith, fellow number one pick, that would be a disappointment. Alex Smith made three Pro Bowls still as a number one pick. He's not in danger going to the Hall of Fame. If Trevor Lawrence had two Pro Bowls out of fifteen, that would be a disappointment. Based off the expectations of Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: It's already a disappointment so far. His career is a disappointment because we expected him to be that next He was going to be that generational talent. Now we tend to we never blame ourselves. We blame the player for not living up to our expectations. And it doesn't It shouldn't work that way Cooper Flagg is a good player, Like he's good, But can I wait for two years? Can I see when he gets to Wemby's number of years in the league, maybe three years, and see how he is. Then you're gonna get a true sense of hey, he's gonna be great. He already liked Wemby to me, it took him a little while. It'll take Cooper Flagg a couple of years. So that's what I was saying. Be fair to the kid, and I don't think we will be, yes, Marvin, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I think about guys like Trevor Lawrence and Cooper flag two years before they were drafted number one overall, they were expected to be the number one overall pick. We had Cooper Flagg going when he was at Mount Verdi Prepe. He was like sixteen. We knew this, This isn't anything new. So the expectations is what's killing people. And Kevin Love, Kevin Love's sacrificed. He would have been a ten time All Star if he stayed in Minnesota, but he went over with Lebron and Kyrie and decided to stand in the corner and win championships.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll talk to kay Love. I think he's gonna join us tomorrow in the program.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away. More phone calls coming up. I see this happen a lot where coaches get their opportunity, get to be a head coach, and then you want to establish culture, and then you go to the press conference. You want to let the media know you mean business. And Aaron Glenn is going through this right now. He of course was with Dan Campbell in the Lions and bringing that kind of attitude towards his press conferences with the Jets. He's their head coach, and Aaron Glenn a little spicy, even coming off of victory.

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Speaker 10: I'm going to to pass on talking about injuries since you're Rich. Oh he's not here, has all the answers, so you can, guys can get all the injuries from Rich. So I go right into this game. That's Rich. Well, I'm telling you that's Rich here. Well you better call him.

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Speaker 6: No disrespect to you or Rich, but like we want to hear it from you, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, like you guys have been here. You guys have been hearing from me.

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Speaker 10: But now since we're just reporting stuff you know that I haven't said, then maybe you should ask you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Rich is Rich Samini? Who has been covering Is he a New York Post? Uh? Rich has been covering the Jets for a long, long, long long time. He's got his sources. Maybe he's getting information on injuries. And Aaron Glenn is Aaron Glenn's not doing his job. You're the coach. Be bigger than this. Don't be petty. You know, when you win, you can be a jerk. You can be Bob Knight or Bill Parcells. In these press conferences or Bill Belichick. You know, we've seen that. I've experienced this firsthand. It's not pretty, but it's bullying. Aaron Glenn hasn't done enough to be able to go into a press conference and say something like this, rich is rich at ESPN. Okay, there got to make sure I know these writers are at ESPN because they get upset sometimes when you not sure where they were. But yeah, yeah, now you're telling reporters trying to do their job to talk to another reporter to get the information. And Aaron Glenn should go in there and be just answer the questions. That's all you just you invite more of this more criticis people know they can get to you. Now you don't want the the media is on your side. They'll be on your side until they're not. And then you don't want the media against you because now you go win and you start to pick away at things, and then they sense that this bothers you. If you're Aaron Glenn, just answer the question. Okay, you don't have to be truthful. You can be evasive, but just give the impression you're trying to give an answer here. It's all yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 7: I remember years ago you talked to Brian Billick, the former Ravens coach, and he was always amenable to the media. I was available for interviews forthcoming during press conferences. He said, I always wanted the local media on my side. It can buy me some wivle room here and there week to week, year to year.

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Speaker 2: But I was there when Bill Parcells was there and at the peak of his powers, and he would be intimidating in those press conferences. He wasn't professional, but he had learned from Bob Knight, and if you win, as Bob Knight, you know approved, and then when you don't win, and then the media is on you, and then all of a sudden you end up at Texas Tech. Belichick that kind of attitude now that I wouldn't fly unless you're winning, then all of a sudden we kind of you know, Greg Popovich, you kind of put up with it. Oh, that's just him. But he's got a job to do. He knows you have a job to do. But you know, my advice for Aaron Glenn is you don't have to have a battle. It doesn't have to be that way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Todd, especially in New York of all places, everybody already has an edge to them, and in that market, you know they're ready to crush you at any other drop of a dime.

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Speaker 2: Uh Drew and Columbus Hi Drew, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 11: Five eleven?

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 11: I'm super excited about you having Kevin Lovell and I'm a I'm a massive tabs fan and I would love to hear from his point of view. One of the most underrated moments of his career was when he gets switched on the Steph Curry in Game seven and the Game seven of the two and sixteen finals, Jerry monjets to pick Staff and he absolutely locks Staff down with one of the greatest defensive ten seconds I've ever seen to secure the championship. And I would love to hear what it was right from your corn of view. You have to step out and switch on to Staff at the end of the game seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we can talk about that. And you know, Marvin and I were talking during the commercial break, Kevin love is probably going to be a Hall of Famer and and that that's a career that exceeded expectations. He had one year at UCLA and probably could have been a guy who just was a stat stuffer in Many Minnesota, but he wanted to win, and Lebron wanted him and needed him, and they won a championship. You go to five All Star Games, you win a championship, and probably and it's easier to get into the basketball Hall of Fame. They're they're far friendlier, although it still brings me back to Christian Laytner is not in the basketball Hall of Fame. And once again, I'm not friends with Christian Layner. I'm just calling something out. How many times you know other sports where I go, that guy should be in the Hall of Fame. And I've talked about this. Barry Melrose should be in the hockey Hall of Fame, and do it while he's still alive. Sonny vccaro should be in the basketball Hall of Fame, and do it while he's still alive. Mel Kiper should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. In my opinion, contributions to the Game, Christian Laightner. If Christian Latner didn't play in the NBA, let's say he had an injury and could never play again, and we just had his basketball career at Duke, he'd be in the Basketball Hall of Fame. It's like we used his NBA career against him. I think he played fifteen years in the NBA. He was on the Dream Team. He's the only member of the Dream Team not in the Basketball Hall of Fame. Now, is he on par with Magic and Larry and Mike And no he's not. But he was on the Dream team. They wanted to have a college player. If you go back watch him play against Shaq, I mean he took on all comers. He took on everybody and wasn't afraid of anybody. And these were all great teams. You go up against Fab five, you go up against UNLV, it just doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, I think a good comparison would be like Ralph Samson. Ralph Samson had a good start to his NBA career, almost like Christian Later, Chris Lader made an All Star team, as did Ralph Samson, and then he got hurt. But Chris Laider ended up playing. He played a long time. It's like, oh, but he wasn't all that great, but I was. You guys talked me out of it because at first I thought it was like crazy that you would even mention him in there. But there's tons of guys that are in the Hall of Fame. Look, Dino Rajah is in the Hall of Fame for what he did as an international player. Tony Kok coaches in as an international player. So if you were unbelievably great, a top five all timer, you should be in.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is Rick Mount in the whole basketball Hall of Fame. Once again, it's the basketball, not the pro basketball. It's the basketball Hall of Fame. So you have college coaches who were in there. But Rick Mount in the sixties was one of the great scores. He played it perdue. He got drafted by Indiana, and he didn't put up any numbers in the NBA or duh, the ABA, but he was a great college basketball So if you're looking at best college basketball players, why can't they be in the basketball Hall of Fame. If Pete Maravich didn't have an NBA career, would he be in the basketball Hall of Fame? He should be, yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 7: I think the thing that covers it in their mind is that there's a college basketball Hall of Fame much more low profile, no offense, and guys like Rick Mount are in there.

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Speaker 2: How about this?

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Speaker 7: If it wasn't the pro football Hall of Fame and was just the football Hall of Fame. Would Tim tebowbi.

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Speaker 2: In Yes, of course, yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean he was an all time great in college football, yes, and he had much less of an NFL career than Latner had an NBA career.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he went a good NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dylan Johnny Manziel probably be in there too, right, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think so. I mean college football Hall of Fame you're going to get in, and he was fame, he was famous. But now that's where you could use his NFL career against him if I mean, he'd never be up for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But yeah, it's just it's tricky with that. I don't know. I find it interesting though, if Late Latner gave you whatever thirteen fifteen years in the NBA, yeah, Bully.

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Speaker 7: The other cop out is that Latner is in the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame or in the Basketball Hall of Fame with the Dream Team, but not as an individual as you said, So it's almost like, well he's kind of in that team.

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Speaker 2: No JJ in Cincinnati, Hi, J Jank, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 12: How you going? Dad? He was six one, one A and five back in twenty sixteen. I remember calling you and telling you, like bringing it up to the show about Kevin Love not worrying about scoring and playing defense and playing off the ball that year because you were giving him a hard time that you remember that because he wasn't scoring and producing the way he was supposed to. And he did he stepped up to the plate at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: Well wait a minute, when he went to the Cavs, I was saying that he wasn't. I mean, he wasn't going to be playing like he was in Minnesota. I was giving him grief because he was the third guy on that team.

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Speaker 12: Right, especially that final. You were on his butt that that year about in the finals, how he ain't stepped up playing like you was supposed to. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Well, where am I now on Kevin Love? JJ? He said, what where am I now? Where? Where? What do you think my opinion on Kevin Love is now?

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Speaker 12: I think you respect him. I think you give him as props to stepping up to the plate.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's called growth, that's called learning, it's called re examining opinions sometimes. But thank you for reminding me of that. I don't remember piling on Kevin Love because he wasn't putting up numbers. But if I did, okay, then maybe I learned from that. JJ.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, And if you were getting on him, that's because you knew he could play better.

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Speaker 2: Well, sometimes you're trying to find out, just like Chris Bosh with you know, the Miami Heat, like you change a role, what is my role? And your role sometimes will fluctuate. It may change depending on the game, situation, the opposition, all of those things. But I don't know if I was picking on Kevin Love, and if I was, and maybe he deserved it, did anybody ever think of that? Maybe he deserved that? Paully has a Hall of Fame Basketball Hall of Fame quiz.

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Speaker 7: I think you'll know the answer this. Who is the only that I can find Basketball Hall of Famer that never made an All Star Game? An All Star appearance? This gentleman played twelve years in the late seventies all the way to nineteen ninety, well known, very relevant team, a lot of winning, never made an All Star appearance.

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Speaker 2: What were the years seventy eight to ninety was that Bobby Jones?

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Speaker 7: No, but that's a very good guess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Marv Michael Cooper.

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Speaker 7: Michael Cooper's correct twelve years for the Lakers was Defensive Player of the Year, First Team All Defense I think different times, five time NBA champion.

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Speaker 2: Did Bobby Jones make an All Star Game? I've ever he was supposed to be the Doctor J. Stopper, and I go, oh, don't do that too, Bobby Jones, because Bobby Jones played at North Carolina a great athlete, but he wasn't. He wasn't on par with the athleticism with Doctor J.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Bobby Jones made five All Star Games. Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow.

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Speaker 7: He was on Denver early in his career and had a lot more scoring.

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Speaker 2: Hmm, well those ABA appearances for you the first two years, Okay, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 4: Like I was saying earlier, those international guys that got in, like I'm sure Dino Raja didn't make an All Star team or Tony Kuk coach, he's in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: He didn't make an All Star game, Tony. Yeah. After Mike left and Scotty sat down.

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Speaker 7: No, confirmed, none, Wow, he was.

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Speaker 2: He was a great international player until Scotty and Mike decided that he wasn't going to be a great international player.

00:31:06
Speaker 4: That wasn't nice. They were nice.

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Speaker 2: They were if they wanted to hold a grudge, they were going to hold a grudge and they were going to hold just scoreless. Yeah, PAULI, I.

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Speaker 7: Liked Tony kok coach. But if Tony kuk coach is in, he never played college. I know he was a good a national player, but not like he won a gold medal and a above average NBA career and you get in the Hall of Fame over later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 7: Interesting.

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Speaker 2: There's a guy from BYU and I think he got in nineteen seventy four. His name is Kresmeir Koshik or Kosik. But he was an international player and he played at BYU, and I just remember I think he made the Hall of Fame, and I don't remember anything about him. I don't know. I don't think he played in the NBA. Like there are just certain guys where you go, oh, you've got a great international career, like Oscar Schmidt. He deserved to be in the Hall. Is he in the Basketball Hall of Fame?

00:32:02
Speaker 4: Sure?

00:32:02
Speaker 2: Is?

00:32:02
Speaker 4: Okay?

00:32:03
Speaker 2: Now he's on par with anybody in modern history in scoring. Anybody like the NBA players, they knew he was gonna light him up for thirty five. Oscar Schmidt is one of the great scores in basketball history.

00:32:18
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, and I think for the Basketball Hall of Fame, to prerequisite normally to me is like either iconic players, iconic moments, or iconic teams. So if you are a big part of a bunch of those teams. Michael Cooper was on all five of those Showtime Lakers teams. So oh, Tony Kukgoch was on the three P Bulls team.

00:32:34
Speaker 6: Yea.

00:32:35
Speaker 4: Even Bobby Jones, Casey Jones, like those guys that were on the eighties Celtics. Draymond will get in because he was a big part of the Warriors dynasty.

00:32:43
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. Last call for phone calls, What we learned Once in store tomorrow. Back after this.

00:32:48
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00:33:05
Speaker 2: Coming up. Odds to win the Super Bowl. The Rams and Chiefs had these same odds plus six hundred, followed by the Lions, than the Eagles, Seahawks, Colts, and the Buffalo Bills. This according to DraftKings NBA Rookie of the Year odds, Cooper Flag is still your favorite. VJ. Edgecombe is second third on the list, averaging sixteen a game. Con Canipple Canipple shooting the three. It's gonna end up with a couple one hundred and three pointers this year. Yes, Marvin Won, Paul pats Oh, I know all. He's on the train, all in, all in on con Canipple. He can play, they shoot, he seems to And it's gonna sound crazy to say he seems to have adjusted better than Cooper Flag. Now, nobody's expecting Conknipple to be an All Star, but he seems to know what he's supposed to do. Cooper Flag is still trying to figure this out. You're on a veteran team, You're eighteen years of age. You're just trying to figure out, you know what am I doing? Where am I going? What is my role? Night in and night out? And he's had a couple of games. I would probably go with Edgecombe for the Rookie of the Year. I think he's dynamic. I think he can put up some big numbers and do it in you know, highlight fashion. You got to go out of your way to find conk Nipple. But that boy can shoot. He's a great shooter. But he's got the third best odds. We got maction tonight. We had a couple of games last night. But what kind of maction do we have?

00:34:55
Speaker 7: Well, it's always fantastic maction. You got Buffalo at Central Michigan both North Illinois, Wow, what happened to them? Two and seven? And your UMass squad oh to nine? And then Toledo at Miami, Ohio both five and four.

00:35:11
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like everybody's four and five or five and four in the MAC.

00:35:15
Speaker 7: Last night was a lot of fun. Yeah, Kent State, Akron over time.

00:35:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, Western Michigan and Ohio. Mike and Florida. Good morning, Mike, what's on your mind today?

00:35:27
Speaker 9: Good morning Dan, You're the best interview in the business. I've loved you for many, many years.

00:35:31
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Mike.

00:35:32
Speaker 9: And here well and I'm calling from the next home of Lank from Lanesville, Florida, formerly known as Gainesville, Florida. If he was going to accept miss Missus deal, he would have already done it. Florida has over five hundred thousand living in Alumni, Ole, Miss has a one hundred thousand. It snow's in Oxford. He's an hour from Atlantica. That golf here in Gainesville. This is his drink dream job. I think so. I think it's pretty much done deal. And the Hall past? Does she get a Hall pass? Two? And and it's kind of like Lay's potato chip? I bet he can't stop at just one.

00:36:09
Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking about Andre Carolinka got a Hall pass from his wife during his NBA career. I don't know if it works the other way when she has a home game, when he's on the road and she has a home game. I don't I don't know how that works.

00:36:22
Speaker 4: Ys Marvin, Yeah, how does that work for NBA wives when it's like where are you going? Oh you have a road tip in Atlanta in Miami? Oh no.

00:36:30
Speaker 2: By the way, I missed a couple episodes of NBA wives.

00:36:34
Speaker 4: Oh basketball. I think the NBA wants to be.

00:36:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not allowed to say NBA wise and nobody's a wife. That's the thing.

00:36:41
Speaker 4: They're all old la work.

00:36:43
Speaker 2: That's that's like their past wives. Yes, formerly known as a wife Basketball wife.

00:36:51
Speaker 4: Yes, executive produced by Shack's ex wife, that's how it started.

00:36:56
Speaker 9: Yep.

00:36:56
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but she's not on the show.

00:37:00
Speaker 4: She's just producing it, I believe.

00:37:01
Speaker 2: Okay, man, there's always drama in their world. There's stuff going on with those basketball.

00:37:08
Speaker 4: Wiesaid, what you're dating Jason Maxiell? Now mm hmm, Wait, you're made of Speedy Claxton.

00:37:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am speedy clax shouldn't shouldn't Scottie Pippen's ex be on that show.

00:37:26
Speaker 4: She's have a series of her own.

00:37:27
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what's going on there. I think what's her name, Larcia, Larcia, lots of Pippin. She's lots of Pippin.

00:37:38
Speaker 4: You've dated Michael Jordan's son at one thing.

00:37:40
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then for somehow miraculously that didn't work out.

00:37:51
Speaker 2: There's some wild stuff out there. Now. I know a lot of it's for the camera, but there's still there are a lot of stuff out there when you're watching The Real Housewives, And I can't do it because I just think it paints women in such a horrible light. But I'll still watch.

00:38:10
Speaker 3: It's still good TV.

00:38:13
Speaker 2: It is still good to me, Dan, this is why you need action.

00:38:16
Speaker 7: You've got to cleanse yourself with some action.

00:38:18
Speaker 2: I know, I know, well I'm getting some action off watching those shows I.

00:38:23
Speaker 3: Might feel dirty or watching maction.

00:38:26
Speaker 6: Yes, Todd got out to gretch in real house rest of Orange County.

00:38:30
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tod. How do you think you did today playing hurt?

00:38:34
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go see yeah.

00:38:38
Speaker 2: All right, but you're playing hurt.

00:38:40
Speaker 5: No excuses. Every day's a super Bowl.

00:38:42
Speaker 9: Oh.

00:38:43
Speaker 2: I know, I know I say that, but it feels like there are excuses. It should not be.

00:38:47
Speaker 5: Excuses are stuff, nose cough, whatever you got.

00:38:49
Speaker 2: If you know that cough, that's yearly when that cough comes back, not a good time.

00:38:56
Speaker 9: No.

00:38:57
Speaker 2: This day in sports history, Paul.

00:38:58
Speaker 7: Eighteen ninety two gentleman named William Pudge Heffelfinger became the first professional football player. He was paid five hundred bucks to help the Allegheny Athletic Association beat Pittsburgh.

00:39:09
Speaker 2: Wow.

00:39:09
Speaker 7: Five hundred bucks is a lot eighteen ninety two, and the Detroit Lions in nineteen sixty seven had ten fumbles in the game for the record. And nineteen twenty Judge Kinnesaw mountain landis elected first Commissioner of the American and National Leagues.

00:39:25
Speaker 2: Also into twenty ten, it was Kevin Love thirty one and thirty one, thirty one points, thirty one rebounds, the first thirty to thirty game in twenty eight years. The Wolves were down twenty one points, came back to beat the Knicks, and then Kevin Love set to join us, I believe on the program tomorrow. Final results of the pole question, Dylan, Yes, Dan.

00:39:49
Speaker 3: So the final pole question was which team do you have more confidence than Colts, Broncos or Patriots? And the Patriots are closing in on fifty, then.

00:40:00
Speaker 2: Okay, they're all in on Drake May, Mike Vrabel, good stuff. By the way, we're signing the calendars. I believe tomorrow will be the first day you can pre order your holiday calendars the DP show calendars. In fact, if you're watching on Peacock, if you look to the very right, they're tables that are lined up. We've been out there signing the calendars during the commercial breaks, but I'll give you more details on that tomorrow. They are really well done. There's some funny, funny pictures. These are iconic magazine covers that we did and Fritz Fritzy and Seaton may have dominated the show.

00:40:40
Speaker 6: Todd, would you learn today you already have your most must win game of the weekend.

00:40:43
Speaker 2: Not to day needs to take care of business at Pittsburgh Sadler Dylan Pauli is fully latched on to Canipple. Yes, he nice latched on Marvin.

00:40:54
Speaker 8: Jason Garrett loves what he's doing until he gets a call Paul Canipple for the win.

00:41:00
Speaker 2: Todd witted, I learned.

00:41:01
Speaker 6: Jason Garrett loves Jordan Love, but he throws off his back foot a little too much.

00:41:04
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