Dallas Braden talks LCS matchups + more Shildt exit details, Rockies GM search, Bregman opting out

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Speaker 1: Great, Dallas great and joining us right now. You can listen to him all the time on baseball.

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Speaker 2: He's dead.

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Speaker 1: Check out his tweets, he's live tweet and he's doing watch parties, the whole deal. And now he's joining us for fifteen minutes for a old chat. Dallas, great to see you, and I'll ask how are you? But also how much are you enjoying watching some of these starters really eat in the postseason this year?

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Speaker 3: I am doing well, and I have at times had to almost like quarantine myself off in a closet somewhere so I can thoroughly just enjoy what I'm watching happen on the mound, because I got a lot of distractions. But I look, I deserve it. I think we all deserve to watch what we are seeing unfold on the diamond this postseason. And I love the idea that the starting pitcher is almost circling back and reminding us just how important it is to have a horse, if not two or three, that you can run out there and start the race and finish it as well. I think if you just look at what we've watched with the Dodgers, and you look at what we have seen unfold with the Milwaukee Brewers. You were watching a team I think in the Brewers who showed up and said, we feel pretty good about our ability to match up, and you know what, we'll call them out getters. We've got a starter or two that we like and we'll label them as such. But from there, we've got a group of outgetters and we're gonna get these outs however we can fantastic. You want to know what the Dodgers did as they rolled in and said, Hey, look at that. That's a stallion. That's a stallion. That's a stallion. You know we call that. We call that a stable. We're gonna open up that door. We're gonna let the horses run. And our stable of starters have led the charge. So I think it's just a great refresher. It's a reminder of what you need to have happen on the mound and how it's unfolded on the game's biggest stage under the games of brightest lights in October. The starters reign Supreme.

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Speaker 4: Dedise is it kind of like an analogy with football, where the running back or the wide receivers bust it all the way down the field. And then they give it to the star running back who didn't get any touches to push it in. Because there's a case where yes, these relie these starters have been legit and they are cy Young Si Young contenders all that stuff. But across the playoffs right now, these bullpens, they're down there like, oh my gosh, I'm exhausted. Wait a minute, these guys are getting all the flowers, like we did all the work for one hundred and sixty two games, and now these guys are like, I've only made twenty starts. Beside Yamamoto, I'm super fresh. So is it a case of we don't want to go to the bullpen because they're not as good or because these guys are gassed.

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Speaker 3: This is the time of year where if you have a guy who was starting the ballgame for you and is showing you because both you boys know right, phrase, come on, what are what are we looking for? There's two things that are gonna tell us just how things are going on the mount for us right the baseball and the other team. If I'm backing up third, guess how guess how good things are going?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: They ain't going very well, are they? And if the baseball is not making its way back to you, Kratzy, well then things aren't going well either, right because you're no longer a catcher. You're just somebody who's kind of directing traffic out there. So I think what it is is, if we're talking about running plays and pushing it across the goal line, you have guys that are doing their job and doing their due diligence in a starter's perspective, and then you also have guys like look at the Mariner's bullpen who are running, who are doing a great job of running the tush push when necessary. Guys like Bizardo who are coming out and giving you a career long career career long and innings pitched for long outings in the postseason at the very end of the season. So I think what we're seeing is if team, when teams are doing it right, it's a beautiful concert. It's a beautiful symphony of the starters and the bullpen working together in unison. But I think at right now, at this time, it's we understand how important those bullpen arms are to us right now and will be to us in the future here, and we want to do everything we can to squeeze as much juice as we can out of the starter if he's allowing us to right going back to a SNeW going back to a Yamamoto, when you have a little bit of a cushion, you're sending this dude back out into the ninth inning with ninety seven pitches under his belt, not because you're afraid of what the bullpen can't do, but because you know what you have just watched unfold for eight innings and what Yamamoto can do.

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Speaker 5: All right, So to that point, what does a team like the Brewers have to do to get back into this series? What can they do? They're not scoring, so how do they figure this out?

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Speaker 3: Afraid? I mean that's where it starts and stops, my dude, and you know that you got to swing the bat. We got to figure out how to generate offense. How do we get on base if it's not going to be the long ball that's going to propel us. How do we build innings? How do we make these at bats competitive? Because I think that's something that has been taken away from this is that the bats just don't seem very competitive, and that doesn't seem like outside of the Churio swing, like, like, what do we what are we getting? What are we doing? It doesn't seem like there's much at all Like the I just I go back to when I'm watching competitive at bats unfold. It feels like after a pitcher too, you get an idea of where a guy's going to be able to fight you off and defend. And then I think what I'm seeing right now is guys almost cash in at bats. And it's tough to think that way because this is a moment in time where if you're the Brewers, you're a team who just doesn't swing and miss right. You feel like you're constantly in the fight with your back to ball ability, but you're just not generating any sort of threat offensively. And a lot of that credit has to go to what the pitchers have done, to what the starters have done.

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Speaker 4: The Blue Jays Mariners series, What do you like the most and what do you dislike the most that you've seen just out of these two games. Not looking forward, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not excited about the fact that, I mean, we we identified a trio in varshow Clement and Vladdie, who were lights out, who carried the work right, who carried the water for him, and right now that's just not the case. And what have they ran into, Well, they have ran into some guys for the Mariners who they're getting outs on the mound. Are they not to the tune of what I was just talking about with the game even that the bullpen comes in and picks up Gilbert who came in on short rest, got through what three three and a third or whatever it was, and the bullpen comes in and does their job. So every reason that the Mariners were supposed to be here is unfolding right now because of the success that they've been able to have on the mound, combination of the starters and their relievers, and they're getting just enough offense at just the right time. It's a team that was propelled largely by the long ball, but you have guys like Polanco that are starting to show up and get big hits at just the right time. And when you have an offense that has guys like Crawford, guys like Nailor that can start to contribute. When you have Jay Rod show up and plug himself into the middle of the lineup and start to produce in the CS, we're talking Championship Championship Series, and that's where these guys are starting to show up and reveal themselves. The lineup starts to get a longer, so a little longer. So now you've got out getters on the mound in the rotation and the bullpen getting the job done. Frankly, not being able to capitalize on opportunities offensively for the Blue Jays, That's where the shortcoming is.

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Speaker 5: We talked to Tyler Kapner a little bit ago about cal Rally and how awesome of a season he had. I want to ask you this question, and I'm putting you on the spot here a little bit. But MVP race him book, Judge.

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Speaker 3: Book, come on book you free book.

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Speaker 6: Let's go look lookkot me let me say okay, let me let me ask you. Let me ask you, uh, what is the hill that you are standing on built upon when it comes to when it comes to judge.

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Speaker 5: See, I didn't want to be put on the fut No, I don't care for me. For me, it's and when not all people talk about but the average to me is a big component that is and that's maybe that's the old school way and me thinking of it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm with I'm with you when it comes to respecting that. And because I have an appreciation just like you do for what it takes to be a guy who can pound the ball out of any yard, out of any park, National park or Big League park, it doesn't matter. And that's who Aaron Judge is. But that same dude can also be the catalyst to a beginning by shooting the ball the other way, by picking up a stake with runners on second and third. He doesn't have a pitch that he can drive, but he has a pitch that he can shoot the other way. Those guys are extremely valuable, and when that individual represents the most powerful threat that you have and also is representative of keeping the line moving, that matters. So I am not somebody who just poo poos the average and says, yeah, but let's take a look at some of the other numbers here. But I am somebody who absolutely appreciates what cal Raley physically has to do each and every day. And I'll put this in perspective for you too. Phrase, there's not a minute that Aaron Judge shows up to the ballpark where he's being asked to put his productivity on the back burner for anybody else on his team. That is never something that Aaron Judge is being asked to do. If anything, he's being asked to do more. Cal Rawley shows up in spring training knowing that his job is to with kit gloves, handle the starting rotation and get to know the extension of not only the big league bullpen, but the tripa a bullpen and starting rotation as well. That will, without a doubt be a factor in their pursuit to their first World Series championship in organization's history. And he will also be the one who's pressing the PitchCom buttons, who's in the squad for each and every ball game just about so the demand physically of the position that is something that I also factor in as well. And when you have a dude who is pounding the ball the way that cal rally is more homers than any switch hitter that the game has ever seen. He's set in franchise records as well, all wall steering the pitching staff in the way that he has. There's a lot of dare I call it value there, and he might be the most valuable player when I think about what he brings to the table on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 5: I love to hear it. I gotta be honest, you kick my butt there. Let me ask you this one question, though, And I want to see what you're saying. You got to face this year cal Rally or Aaron Judge fifty times? Who would you rather face?

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Speaker 3: I would like to face cal Raleigh fifty times? Please?

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Speaker 2: Gotcha?

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Speaker 5: Okay? And how do you think you would fare against both those guys right now?

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Speaker 3: Right now? Not great?

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Speaker 5: In your prime? In your prime?

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Speaker 3: Sure, I'm probably gonna have a little more success against a guy like cal Raley just because I feel like I'm going to have a better opportunity to move the baseball around on him and beat him to a spot as opposed to where a guy like Aaron je Should I even be able to beat him to a spot, that ball probably gets fought off somewhere. I just think cal might be a little longer from the right side and someone that I could maybe crowd a little bit and just kind of get him in that rocking chair. That's where I'm gonna have my success against a guy like him.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: For Judge, that's probably a guy that I I am going to have to treat like. For me, the count is three to zero, and I'm trying to get back into this thing every time, and that is a terrible way to try to get out.

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Speaker 4: It feels feels like feels like you're gonna lose on either one. But I feel good. Good answer there, good answer that doesn't even argue, doesn't even argue your your previous point, because Col's more than just the hitter. He's absolutely what's your favorite what's your favorite postseason moment so far this year where you're like, man, that was so cool to watch.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I I there's no recency bias involved here. I think it's Yamamoto coming back out for the ninth inning because the question mark there with the pitch count and what we were seeing, and this is where the bias of being a starting pitcher comes into play. And I want to see these sort of signature moments. I want to see these hallmark moments for our game's hallmark players. And this is a guy who just got bredded up and brought in. And there were question marks even from some former big leaguers who were going, really signing that paid check after not he hasn't thrown a pitch here? Are we sure it's worth it? CG. CS. I think it's worth it. I think it's worth it, But I think it also just does a lot more for the narrative of how strongly I feel about starting pitching and what it means to our game, not just in the postseason, but on the whole in its entirety.

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Speaker 4: All right, now, I remember back to your perfect game. I still don't know if you did this or not. It looked like it like you were celebrating. You kind of like pounded your chest and it looked like you looked over and you were like my, like, my bad, Like you didn't want to push it in their face. Is that true or not true?

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent true?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, so that's what I look like. So how do you feel about teams right now when they finish a team out dunking on them and hanging on the rim like some of the teams have so far with celebrations after the game pointing in their dugout. How do you feel about that because it feels like it completely contradicts that moment in history for you and what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have always been a big I've always been a big proponent of trying to elevate the individuals who are wearing the same color as I am in a moment like that, And I think from a competitive standpoint, it's because we've all been on the other end of that, right, And I think in that moment, the line has been drawn, the hay is in the barn, this dance is done, and why would I want to spend any more time bearing the people or the individual that I just buried, Like the dirt's on the coffin, that's a done deal. Like why don't we celebrate? Why don't you know what I mean? Why don't we enjoy this over here? And so yeah, I've always like when it comes to Pimp and the homer, like, my whole thing has always been you want to make eye contact with me? Well, you have now made it personal. You have now signed your name on the dotted line. And at whatever moment that contract gets called, we'll figure that out later. But you have signed your name on the dotted line. If you're not making eye contact and this isn't personal and you're just pumped, and bro, I'm not so egotistical to not understand how excited you are in the moment, But you haven't made this personal for me, So I would then have to be feeling some sort of way individually, and I just I don't carry that with me. So when I see individuals bring in the opponent, like you know, during the aftermath, and they start to make it about the I'm just I don't know. I don't know if it's the era that I grew up in the game. I don't know if it's the neighborhood that I grew up in. But those are just lessons that I learned very early, Like they're You're going to have to pay that back at some point in time or another. And maybe that's just because our game no longer allows that, you know, you no longer get to hold people accountable for things like that. And I think something else that we have to remind ourselves of is each and every year, we're getting closer and closer to what we have referred to as the travel Ball era, continuing to I don't want to say infiltrate because it sounds like they're not welcome, but I think continuing to populate our game at its highest and most competitive levels. And what we saw unfold on social media ten fifteen years ago when it came to celebrating and bat flipping in Literally, why would you think that that would stop? Now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, totally, it's not gonna.

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Speaker 2: No, it's going to keep going.

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Speaker 3: We're only getting closer to that line. Boys, we're only getting right, like all all the old heads, we're dying. We're dying off, meaning we're hanging up the uniform and we're not on the diamond anymore. And how we look at it and how we played it. Frankly, nobody cares. Nobody wants to hear about it anymore, Right, even the guys that are in those dugouts and in those clubhouses. I always go back to to Big Poppy being very public and open about feeling like he wasn't even welcomed or didn't like nobody even wanted to hear what he had to say in the spring training complex, Like what what.

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Speaker 5: Outside of the game. Yeah, and you say it like Kratzy. He coaches high school. I coach travel ball for younger kids, and it drives me crazy seeing some of the antics that they do. I tell my kids, you do something like that, you're sitting at least one or two innings like I can't. I just can't deal with it. And it doesn't even matter because eventually, when somebody else coaches them, they're gonna do whatever the heck they want anyway.

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Speaker 3: But but no, no, let me try. I have to. I have to. I have to try. And brother, you don't need this encouragement from me. My dude, you're back. The back of your baseball card looks very different than mine. But I would just say, continue to do what you do, man, Continue, continue to try to implement and instill the respect for the game, because it's the respect for the game that translates into respect for your teammates and respect for your opponents. And what they hopefully eventually find out is that's what you're playing this game for at the very end of it. All right, somebody called it a shiny piece of metal one time, and that would be fun to have to But the respect of your opponents, the respect of your teammates, the respect of the people watching the game, I think that's pretty important as well. And anytime I can learn those lessons from a big leaguer like Todd Frasier, I'd like to think that I'm gonna shut my mouth and open my ears and maybe learn that lesson.

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Speaker 2: You'd be amazed. The kids are, like, who are you the parents seven? I didn't watch you play exactly well, Dallas, good stuff, dude, always great to catch up. We really enjoy these. Thanks for swinging by man. Enjoy the rest of the postseason anytime.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy October boys, great to chat. We'll catch up soon.

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Speaker 2: Is in the weeds.

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Speaker 1: There's more to the Mike Shilt story. Kevin Acey broke the news initially that Shilt was retiring from his position as manager of the Padres, and he came out with a long article in the San Diego Union Tribune about more details. It sounds like on Shilt's side, he was tired of dealing with the demands of the job and that there were issues behind the scenes. There were complaints from people that you know, he was working too hard. He was I don't want to say yelling. I got to find out the specifics in there, but you know, disagreeing strongly and kind of telling people off. And there was a lot going on behind the scenes. And he was asked about that and said he knew about some of that, but he was surprised that so many people were frustrated because in this article a number of people went on the record. I mean, I'm assuming almost all, if not most, of them, were anonymous, but they're nearly twenty sources, twelve of them who worked with Shilt on a daily basis during the season, having recent months characterized him as unyieldingly demanding of his coaching staff and the team support staff and is having a tendency to micromanage and possessing a quick temper that is easily triggered by questioning or feedback.

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Speaker 2: Kratz your thoughts. I mean, you played for a long time. Did you see that?

00:21:21
Speaker 1: Do you think this is disgruntled employee action or do you think that this is legit?

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Speaker 4: I never saw it be successful. I never saw a manager when I saw managers like that, or people in high up roles like a manager would be that would treat people like that, would treat support staff like these people are saying in this article. They were being treated. It's never been successful. But what did the padres do? They were successful? I don't think the team was. I have a hard time believing that Shilt was doing this to the team, to the players, but maybe the support staff. Maybe the guys that you know, guys and girls that work to help make the team run, training staff, clubhouse guys, you know, coaches, first base, bench, go all that stuff. Those are as much of a team as the players are. They never ever will taken at bat or throw a pitch. But if they're not being heard, if they're not being respected in all those situations, it's hard for a team to have success. But they had success. We're not talking about a team that lost a lot of games here. We're talking about a team that really was kind of built for this and did pretty well during the season. They had their ups and downs, but they had success. So I've never seen it without success. I've seen it when there's so much divide and the team stinks because it's like, ugh, we're fighting on the field, and we're fighting in the clubhouse, or we're fighting out side of the outside of the things that happened in the club on the field.

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Speaker 1: And the column does say that he was great with the players. They were very supportive of him. The team was definitely going to have him back, so he was the one who made the call and turned down some pretty decent money on the rest of the contract to do this.

00:23:16
Speaker 2: All of those details are in there. I'm with Crats on this one. I mean I need like really specific, like in this story.

00:23:23
Speaker 1: You get not enough, Like Okay, you talk to people within the team, tell me what they said, give me a specific example, and I want that in the article right Like, hey, I said, you know, I gave him one little suggestion and he screened with me for five minutes and told me I'm going to get fired tomorrow and then didn't. It was threading, like I don't see anything like that that could have existed. But you talk to players, they love him. He had success, So I have a hard time with this. And if you don't like that, he has you go in two hours earlier than any team has ever had you go in. Okay, that's a rightful claim, But guess what. That's how he's running his operation and you don't have.

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Speaker 2: To be there.

00:24:01
Speaker 1: Everybody has bosses they don't agree with, or many people do, and then you can leave.

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Speaker 5: I agree. I'm looking at some of the words here. He was intense. You want a manager who's intense. He's demanding. Yeah, if I'm a manager, I'm going to be very demanding of people that I work with, People that are players staph micromanaging. Okay, yeah, maybe a little bit here and there. But players love them because he cared and wanted the most out of everybody else. And guess what if you didn't like it, why are you there? Like if you didn't like the way he did it. As a manager, I want control. I want control of the choices I make. Yeah, I'll listen to you. But at the same time, I'm the one that makes a decision. At the end of the day. We don't know enough. We don't know enough. I could sit here and say all that and I could be far from the truth tomorrow. But if that is the case, if I'm a manager, I want the best at everybody. And if it's me trying to control the narrative, yeah, because I'm the guy, I'm the one everybody's gonna look at and say he was your fault.

00:24:57
Speaker 1: And apparently some of this happened in Saint Louis and he disagreed with front office and all of that. Right, it sounded like he was much more on the same page with Preller. Preller was not on the same page with Bob Melvin. But for me, I was reading this expecting stories. Yeah, and I didn't really get anything.

00:25:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's ten, he works hard in too many hours. Okay, welcome to baseball. Right. Yes, we could be wrong.

00:25:21
Speaker 1: Something could come out after this where it's like, ah, that's too much, But I'm not there yet.

00:25:25
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing it.

00:25:26
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to talk to a couple of the Padres players at some point to see if they've got anything, but for now sounds like he was frustrated with the frustrations of others and he was just like enough, you know, I'm done.

00:25:37
Speaker 2: This is wearing me down.

00:25:38
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of talking that about him being burnt out and voicing that to Aj Preller. That's why Preller said he was surprised, not shocked, because they had conversations about him just saying like, this is wearing me down. And he'd been doing it for what five or six years between the Padres and the Cardinals, with just a brief in between.

00:25:57
Speaker 2: Last word, But.

00:25:59
Speaker 4: If the story line up from the Cardinals and they line up with the Padres now all of a sudden, yes, I would like specific examples. I've heard some specific examples from his time with the Cardinals. But let's see if some of those stories line up, and maybe it's something in his next job as a manager. Hey, you know what, I can work on this. My people's skills with people who are not players are not my GM might stink and maybe I need to work on it. Or he's like, screw that. I know this makes a good team. You either get on board or you get off of the next stop.

00:26:37
Speaker 1: We love Ariakratz in a good underwear commercial. You know who would love to be in an underwear commercial. Austin Hedges. Yea four million bucks plus five hundred k incentives back to the Guardians on another one year contract. They get it done before the season even ends. The postseason that is.

00:26:52
Speaker 2: I thought that was against the rules.

00:26:54
Speaker 5: I thought you had to wait.

00:26:55
Speaker 1: If you're already with the team, I think you can do that. Free agency doesn't begin until Wow, I know that, right, Kratz.

00:27:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not a free agent. He's not a free agent yet, so it's just basically like atension, but he just decided not to hit free agency. Four million dude. I love when teams lock up with players in a great spot to be in, Like he's one of the leaders and nobody wants to see that shoot up piece of bubblegum body and underwear commercial for sure.

00:27:22
Speaker 1: Not yeah, but it would go viral just based on who he is and his personality and the BOD.

00:27:30
Speaker 5: When talking to Stephen Bode about him, he said, I asked him like talking about the club as Hedge is our leader. Yeah, he does. Everybody listens to him. He's our guy, he says. Ramiroz is there. Don't get me wrong, but that's their fearless leader. Great call, great call by them.

00:27:45
Speaker 1: We have one minute left, and I did look up the thing we were talking about at the beginning.

00:27:48
Speaker 2: There's always a million things going on.

00:27:49
Speaker 1: At the top of the show, Kratz was challenging history and Kratz in twenty nineteen in the World Series, that's what you were talking about. The Astros were home, they lost the first two games. They went on the road, they won three, four and five. But this trivia question was about losing the first two games at home and then winning the series. The Astros lost those last two games back at home. It's FT presented by Fox Won two minutes here to talk about the Rockies search for a new front office leader. I'm proud of Colorado for looking outside the organization.

00:28:23
Speaker 2: James Click is in the running. Click won a.

00:28:26
Speaker 1: World Series as a front office leader with the Astros. That's right, That's that's good, and that's what Jim Crane said to him after they won the World Series. He said, you got a one year deal because I technically don't want you to come back and I just have.

00:28:38
Speaker 2: To do this.

00:28:39
Speaker 1: So Click said, see you guess who he works for now the Blue Jays. It's work, and he's an advisor for Ross Atkins, so I think he would be great for a job like this. Others in the running include Scott Sharp, who's an assistant GM with the Royals, and Cleveland Guardians assistant GM Matt Forman. Both of them have been in the game for a while. I don't know as much about them as I do about Click click heard back click. I think that he will be a front office leader again soon for Meatkrats.

00:29:04
Speaker 2: This could be a good fit.

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Speaker 4: Scott Sharp's a good one. He's a good one with the Royals. I think I think he aligns with kind of what the Rockies are looking for, you know, people first, type of people. But whoever comes in here, whoever's coming in from another organization, they're going to go in, like James Click is going to go in. From what I've heard about the Rockies, and they're like how far behind the time they are? Some things he might be like, wait, what, you guys don't do this. You guys don't have counter reports for the players, but how do you what? Oh man, there's a lot of low hanging fruit here. So I hope, I hope one of these guys gets this job, and I hope he can help turn around that organization because they have a great fan base there.

00:29:46
Speaker 1: To me, that's why click out of that group as a front runner, even though I don't know the other two as well, because I think you need someone that was, like I've been in the seat, I won a title. I'm also coming from another team that was one of the last left. And here's what you need to do. I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. This is why we need to do this to change what's been going on process wise with Colorado.

00:30:08
Speaker 2: So I could see that happening.

00:30:09
Speaker 1: Plus, I do like Clicks, background krats some teams that are pretty front in front of the game in terms of tech. Houston, he was in Tampa Bay for a while. I think you need somebody that's going to think outside the box, and Colorado should be a lab where you're like, we have to catch up and then some we have to do things very differently.

00:30:31
Speaker 3: Here.

00:30:32
Speaker 1: It's incredibly difficult to have a consistent winner based on the atmosphere. In the most obvious news of the offseason, Alex Bragman is planning to opt out after a nice first year in Boston. This, according to John Hammond said Red Sox return seems logical, but there will surely be options. And if you want to check out his article, he's got a surprise suitor in there. There are going to be teams going after him. I know one team that won't go after him, the Tigers, because they're pissed. They took it personally that he said, no, I don't think they're going to go after him again.

00:31:04
Speaker 2: That's funny.

00:31:05
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a great fit Thereocrats, but I think they were really bothered about the situation because they offered the most guarantee money.

00:31:13
Speaker 4: Get over it. If you still think he's a good player, you were about to get six or seven years out.

00:31:18
Speaker 5: Of him, try again, Try again.

00:31:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, well all of a sudden, Oh your feelings are hurt. Well, he could have helped you. So I don't know that I I don't know that I agree with it. But there's other suitors. Of course, there's other suitors. And also, like he's a free agent, help them help him go and enjoy his time. He shouldn't be talking to other teams yet. He hasn't opted out yet. Let's let's follow the rules and I want to see what Boris does for him. Boris, the second year of these types of contracts where they don't get what they want the first year, has absolutely cashed in for his guys. So I'm excited to see Look at Snow, look at Chapman, look like those are recent examples. I'm excited to see what Pete A. Lonzo gets too. So Reregman did everything he needed to do.

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