Billy Joel's "An Innocent Man" (1983): Track by Track!

<v Speaker 1>Okay, everybody, welcome back to Shirley You Can't Be Serious podcast.
<v Speaker 1>We are back again. Jason's here, I'm here, our friend
<v Speaker 1>John Reid is here, and we are talking about an
<v Speaker 1>innocent man.
<v Speaker 2>Track by track, no fluff, no silliness.
<v Speaker 1>One story. I got one story that I want to hear.
<v Speaker 2>John, tell me how you met your wife.
<v Speaker 3>So obviously this is one that's been told a few
<v Speaker 3>times on our podcast. But so I credit Billy Joel
<v Speaker 3>with the fact that I met and ultimately married the
<v Speaker 3>person that I married to. So we were in we
<v Speaker 3>were in high school together, and we were in the
<v Speaker 3>same geography class, and I think we also had study
<v Speaker 3>Haull and lunch together and all that, and we sat
<v Speaker 3>next to each other, so you know, we would talk
<v Speaker 3>from time to time, you know, when the teacher said,
<v Speaker 3>trade your paper with somebody else so they can grade
<v Speaker 3>yours and you grade theirs. So I knew she was
<v Speaker 3>smart because she always scored higher on the quizzes than
<v Speaker 3>I did. But there was another kid in class and
<v Speaker 3>I that we were arguing at one point about who
<v Speaker 3>was the bigger Billy Joel fan, and I was trying
<v Speaker 3>to list off all the songs that I knew, and
<v Speaker 3>he was listing off the songs that he knew, and
<v Speaker 3>I just kind of like flippantly said, fine, if you're
<v Speaker 3>such a big fan, what's the forty third word if
<v Speaker 3>we didn't start the fire? And he's like, well, it's stupid,
<v Speaker 3>like nobody knows. You can't like count the words. And
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, fine, then I guess I'm just the
<v Speaker 3>bigger fan. Well then what is it? Well, I'm not
<v Speaker 3>going to tell you. So we did that whole thing. Well,
<v Speaker 3>so the next day, come back to class and this
<v Speaker 3>girl that's been sitting next to me that I've talked
<v Speaker 3>to occasionally and you know, we've you know, we're right
<v Speaker 3>next to each other. She comes back and she like,
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember. I think she leans over and she
<v Speaker 3>just goes it's I think it was like Eve or
<v Speaker 3>the or something like that, and she just kind of
<v Speaker 3>says it real quietly, and I'm like, so, Hi, there,
<v Speaker 3>are you doing anything for the rest of your life?
<v Speaker 3>Would you like to would like to go out sometime?
<v Speaker 3>Can I buy you something in the cafeteria? And that
<v Speaker 3>kind of started the whole thing. So we were actually
<v Speaker 3>talking tonight before it was going to come on to
<v Speaker 3>do our recording with you guys. We had been watching
<v Speaker 3>an interview with Billy Joel and we said, you know what,
<v Speaker 3>whenever he's not around anymore, like, that's going to be tough.
<v Speaker 3>Because for me, David Bowie was real big growing up
<v Speaker 3>for my family, So when he passed away, that was
<v Speaker 3>kind of a big deal. Like that was a hard
<v Speaker 3>hit when Robin Williams passed away. I always loved Robin Williams.
<v Speaker 3>He was one of my favorites. That was a hard hit.
<v Speaker 3>But my wife and I both said, because we in
<v Speaker 3>the interview Billy Joel's looking a little older now, we said, gosh,
<v Speaker 3>when he goes like that's going to be painful. Not
<v Speaker 3>that he's been releasing new music in the last thirty years,
<v Speaker 3>but when he goes, it's going to be it's gonna
<v Speaker 3>be a hit for us. And and that was some
<v Speaker 3>of the music that we played at our reception art
<v Speaker 3>our wedding was Billy Joel and You're My Home has
<v Speaker 3>always been a song that we've kind of had as
<v Speaker 3>one of quote unquote our songs. I blame and credit
<v Speaker 3>Billy for the fact that I'm married to who I'm
<v Speaker 3>married to.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just imagining young John in class and the future
<v Speaker 1>missus John Reed whispers in his ear and he channels
<v Speaker 1>his inner. Orlando Calisi is, Oh, what do we have here?
<v Speaker 3>You truly belong here with us among the night.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, at least you told her about it, right?
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?
<v Speaker 1>Was she an uptown girl?
<v Speaker 3>I mean a girl like that wouldn't tell you what
<v Speaker 3>you should do?
<v Speaker 2>All right? So back to my story, the nineteen eighty
<v Speaker 2>two trip. Oh yeah, that Paul Simon literally drug him on,
<v Speaker 2>right yeah. Billy Joel's like, listen, man, I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to go to some resort in the middle of the
<v Speaker 2>poor country where you're a rich person surrounded by a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of pissed off poor people. And Paul Simon's not like, no,
<v Speaker 2>this is a French colony. It's not like that at all.
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be awesome. Come with me. So Billy reluctantly
<v Speaker 2>goes with Paul Simon to Saint Bart's well. After he
<v Speaker 2>gets there and a day at the pool and he
<v Speaker 2>gets beat red, sunburned, he wanders inside, he's tired, he's sunburned,
<v Speaker 2>and sure enough, there's a piano in the bar at
<v Speaker 2>the resort. He wanders over starts to kind of tickle
<v Speaker 2>the keys, and the next thing you know, there's a
<v Speaker 2>crowd of people around him, and he looks on his left,
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that's Christy Brinkley. And he looks to
<v Speaker 2>his right, Holy cow, that's all McPherson. He says. He
<v Speaker 2>turned to the piano and gave a silent thank you
<v Speaker 2>to the piano. Thank you, piano, you have been there
<v Speaker 2>for me my entire life.
<v Speaker 3>You need a channel, or maybe you need to pull
<v Speaker 3>a drop for the audio drop from the movie Amadeus
<v Speaker 3>when he's trying on the different wigs in the movie Amedeus,
<v Speaker 3>and he stops and he goes, they're also beautiful. Why
<v Speaker 3>don't I have three heads?
<v Speaker 2>So listen to this. So the rest of the story,
<v Speaker 2>as he's schmoozing, supermodel Christy Brinkley maybe maybe the most
<v Speaker 2>beautiful woman in America.
<v Speaker 1>At that time, I mean nineteen eighty three, she was
<v Speaker 1>National Lampoon's Vacation hottie Bumballati Yes.
<v Speaker 2>And supermodel Elle McPherson maybe the other hottest girl in America.
<v Speaker 2>They're there for Sports Illustrated to shoot the swimsuit issue,
<v Speaker 2>and so he's schmoozing. He's talking them up. Hey, ladies,
<v Speaker 2>how's it going? Good to see it? And he's newly divorced.
<v Speaker 2>He feels like a teenager. He's a rock star. He's
<v Speaker 2>got beautiful women interested in him. He can't wait to
<v Speaker 2>have meaningful conversations with these ladies, deep deep in meanings.
<v Speaker 1>Deep and meaningful conversation.
<v Speaker 2>And then he's got this teenager who comes up and
<v Speaker 2>it starts to bug him, and he said he looked
<v Speaker 2>at her. She's clearly a model, she's cute as a button.
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, hey, I sing? Would it be okay
<v Speaker 2>if I sang for you? And he's like, he gives it,
<v Speaker 2>They'll go away, kid, you bother it, get lost. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you got a great singing voice, but can
<v Speaker 2>you see who I'm talking to?
<v Speaker 4>Right?
<v Speaker 2>And she persists. So he's like, hey, Christy, why don't
<v Speaker 2>you join me in the singing of this whatever song?
<v Speaker 2>And that little model is like, I sing, I sing,
<v Speaker 2>and he finally has to be like beat it, kid,
<v Speaker 2>that kid, Yeah, Whitney Houston. What the heck? Whitney Houston,
<v Speaker 2>Whitney Houston. Goodness, gracious, what the heck?
<v Speaker 4>He says.
<v Speaker 2>He kicks himself because he could have been the guy
<v Speaker 2>who discovered Whitty Houston.
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow.
<v Speaker 3>You know what, though, I don't think he probably was
<v Speaker 3>kicking himself too hard.
<v Speaker 2>I had three heads made, all right, So let's talk
<v Speaker 2>overall about an innocent man. This album is released August third,
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty three. Billy jo said he wrote this in
<v Speaker 2>about eight weeks. He said he was newly divorced, feeling
<v Speaker 2>like a teenager, and the songs.
<v Speaker 1>Just poured out well, and the feeling like a teenager
<v Speaker 1>took him back to the time when he was a teenager,
<v Speaker 1>which is why all of these songs borrow so heavily
<v Speaker 1>from the fifties and sixties. We are talking about Lionel
<v Speaker 1>Riach moving away from the Motown sound, and we were
<v Speaker 1>talking about Billy Joel moving into the Motown's sound, moving
<v Speaker 1>up or moving out. I don't know what it is,
<v Speaker 1>but there you go.
<v Speaker 2>You know, for a super fan like John, he probably
<v Speaker 2>knew this. But before we dove into this, yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't even realize this is a concept album. Oh, each
<v Speaker 2>song is a homage to an artist from the fifties
<v Speaker 2>and sixties.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is so much fun and it's so much
<v Speaker 3>fun to go if you haven't done this. You gotta
<v Speaker 3>do this. I actually made leading up to when we
<v Speaker 3>were gonna be talking about this, I made a playlist
<v Speaker 3>that had Innocent Man, and then after each song in
<v Speaker 3>Innocent Man, I dropped in at least one two maybe
<v Speaker 3>songs by who I thought or who I had been
<v Speaker 3>able to find that he said he had been influenced by.
<v Speaker 3>And it was so much fun to just go song
<v Speaker 3>by song and be like, let's listen to easy Money. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>now let's pull up a James Brown or Wilson Pickett
<v Speaker 3>or you know, let's pull up this song. And now
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna pull up the one that he says inspired him, like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you can absolutely hear the faintest hint of the little
<v Speaker 3>like dinging bell sound at the beginning of that song.
<v Speaker 3>It's in both songs. So much fun to do it
<v Speaker 3>that way, and it's it's I think it was so
<v Speaker 3>much fun for him to be able to go back
<v Speaker 3>to his childhood and relive all this stuff and try
<v Speaker 3>to channel all these different musicians, because he said in
<v Speaker 3>interviews that he hates his own voice. He's like, I
<v Speaker 3>hate my own voice. I always wanted to sing like
<v Speaker 3>somebody else He's like, this album was kind of my
<v Speaker 3>chance to really try it out and sing like somebody else.
<v Speaker 3>And in each of these songs when he's channeling James Brown,
<v Speaker 3>he's singing like James Brown. He's got the hack in
<v Speaker 3>the song and the get down. So yeah, I think
<v Speaker 3>this this must have been such a fun, fun album
<v Speaker 3>for him.
<v Speaker 2>Modern artists, if you're listening to this podcast, please do
<v Speaker 2>a homage to the eighties and nineties, will buy the album. Absolutely,
<v Speaker 2>it'd be freaking awesome. Yeah, before we dive in track
<v Speaker 2>by track, This album was nominated for Album of the
<v Speaker 2>Year and Best Pop Vocal and it lost both too.
<v Speaker 1>Can't Slow Down?
<v Speaker 2>Nope, what thriller?
<v Speaker 4>Or yeah?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Well and when those are your two options, I
<v Speaker 3>just got to respond with They're both so beautiful. I
<v Speaker 3>wish I had two heads.
<v Speaker 4>All right.
<v Speaker 2>First song on the album is a song called easy Money.
<v Speaker 1>What James Brown?
<v Speaker 4>Who?
<v Speaker 1>I don't hear any James Brown? And that is what
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? Oh my gosh, listen guys for
<v Speaker 1>this song. For me, this was a new to me song.
<v Speaker 1>I was not familiar with easy Money. All of the
<v Speaker 1>Billie Joel songs that are in my history and somehow
<v Speaker 1>this one escaped me. But I put this in as
<v Speaker 1>I picked up Caleb from soccer practice and we were
<v Speaker 1>both just gruve it. I mean, we're just shaking our
<v Speaker 1>shoulders back and forth and bobbing our head and fighting
<v Speaker 1>our lip and looking at each other like, yeah, let
<v Speaker 1>me go. This is awesome. So this was a great
<v Speaker 1>find for me.
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the song that got the whole album
<v Speaker 2>started right. So he wrote it for the Rodney danger
<v Speaker 2>Field Joe Peshi movie Joe Forgo Pesci Easy Money.
<v Speaker 4>Money.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, and Rodney Dangerfield is going to make an appearance
<v Speaker 2>here later on just a few songs. But this was
<v Speaker 2>a movie that I knew was just a little bit
<v Speaker 2>inappropriate for me at age ten, But that doesn't mean
<v Speaker 2>I didn't try to watch it.
<v Speaker 3>It's a great kickoff to the album. I wouldn't say
<v Speaker 3>it's my favorite song on the album, but it's such
<v Speaker 3>a fun way to kick it off and get that
<v Speaker 3>fifties and sixties style sound. And if you don't hear
<v Speaker 3>the James Brown in it, then you got to go
<v Speaker 3>listen to some more James Brown because it's just it's
<v Speaker 3>such a fun, just high energy song to kick the
<v Speaker 3>whole thing off with.
<v Speaker 2>Somebody asked him if he ever was a big gambler
<v Speaker 2>like Rodnie Dangerfield's character in the movie, and he said,
<v Speaker 2>you know what, one time, when I was in high school,
<v Speaker 2>I bet my life savings on a sure thing horse.
<v Speaker 2>So my life savings was about sixty bucks. The horse lost.
<v Speaker 2>Said he cured him for the rest of his life,
<v Speaker 2>never gambled.
<v Speaker 3>Again, I think, he said in an interview, I want
<v Speaker 3>to say it was on Howard Stern's show. He said
<v Speaker 3>that this one was kind of inspired by his experiences
<v Speaker 3>working in piano bars, and he said that he'd a
<v Speaker 3>lot of times he'd see wealthy people come in flashing
<v Speaker 3>their money around, and you know, he just was kind
<v Speaker 3>of frustrated with the arrogance and the entitlement of these
<v Speaker 3>wealthy people that would come in and just throw cash
<v Speaker 3>around all the time. And so this is kind of
<v Speaker 3>his response to that.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Moving on to the second track on the album,
<v Speaker 2>third single, that's called an Innocent Man.
<v Speaker 5>Some people stay far away from.
<v Speaker 2>The door if there's a chance of the little man.
<v Speaker 6>May voice in the hole outside and hold that it
<v Speaker 6>just passes by.
<v Speaker 2>This is a powerful song. I enjoy this one. It's
<v Speaker 2>not my favorite on the album, but he really vocally,
<v Speaker 2>he's really getting after it.
<v Speaker 1>This is my favorite song on the album is one
<v Speaker 1>hundred much. This one is an homage to Benny King,
<v Speaker 1>both solo and when he was with the Drifters. To me,
<v Speaker 1>especially the beginning sounds, it's very Dock of the Bay
<v Speaker 1>by Otis Redding. But when he kicks into that chorus, dude,
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, this is definitely my number one of
<v Speaker 1>the albums. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>If you want to pull a couple other songs that
<v Speaker 3>really really kind of you can tell influence this one.
<v Speaker 3>Benny King's stand by Me, the Drifters save the Last
<v Speaker 3>Dance for Me. It's got a little hint of maybe
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of Righteous Brothers in it. It kind
<v Speaker 3>of calls back a little bit too Until the Night,
<v Speaker 3>one of his other previous songs. It's got some similar
<v Speaker 3>sounds to that. But he has said that this song
<v Speaker 3>was inspired by his own setbacks, like all the stuff
<v Speaker 3>that he dealt with early on, and that you really
<v Speaker 3>can you really can make a change.
<v Speaker 6>I'm only willing to hear you cry because I am
<v Speaker 6>an innocent.
<v Speaker 2>Hi.
<v Speaker 3>This is probably my second favorite on the album, but Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>just I absolutely love this song, and from what I recall,
<v Speaker 3>this is one of the first ones to get played
<v Speaker 3>pretty regularly on MTV. The video and that I'm sure
<v Speaker 3>also helped boost his reputation and get him in front
<v Speaker 3>of people, I mean, people who didn't already know who
<v Speaker 3>he was. Get him in on MTV. Was just broadening
<v Speaker 3>his audience.
<v Speaker 2>He said when it was recording this that he had
<v Speaker 2>a feeling this would be the last time he'd be
<v Speaker 2>able to hit that really high note, but he nails
<v Speaker 2>it on this song.
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, you can only hit the high notes
<v Speaker 3>when you play for Christy Lee.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the song reached number ten on the Hot one
<v Speaker 2>hundred third single number one on the Adult Contemporary chart.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was. It was a lot of fun. Like
<v Speaker 3>some of the some of the connections to like who
<v Speaker 3>inspired these songs, I until I started digging into a
<v Speaker 3>couple of them, Like some of them are obvious, but
<v Speaker 3>then a couple I was like, how did I not
<v Speaker 3>know that? Yeah, as we get a little bit further
<v Speaker 3>on into the album, like there's one song in particular
<v Speaker 3>that there's there's an artist from the fifties and sixties
<v Speaker 3>that I absolutely love and I was like, of course
<v Speaker 3>he sounds like him. How did I not make that connection?
<v Speaker 1>It was?
<v Speaker 3>It was driving me nuts. As soon as I was
<v Speaker 3>reading up some stuff on it, I was like, all right,
<v Speaker 3>well now I feel dumb.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you gotta tell us that story we.
<v Speaker 1>Want to get there. Yeah, yeah, okay. So I asked Caleb.
<v Speaker 1>Caleb is a Billy Joel fan, okay, And so he
<v Speaker 1>came in because we have stuff in here that he
<v Speaker 1>needed to go to sleep, and so I'm like, oh, hey, dude,
<v Speaker 1>what's your favorite Billy Joel song. He's like, okay, Piano Man,
<v Speaker 1>Innocent Man, or River of Dreams. Here was no Instant Man,
<v Speaker 1>no River. I don't know, dad.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's okay, you got you got one songs
<v Speaker 2>on this album.
<v Speaker 1>That we're talking about, So I'm gonna go with that.
<v Speaker 2>So Caleb's favorite on this album at least is Innocent
<v Speaker 2>Man as well. Okay, great, all right. Third song on
<v Speaker 2>the album. That song is Cold the Longest.
<v Speaker 5>Time, Woo.
<v Speaker 7>For the longest Time, whoa the longest You said good
<v Speaker 7>Bye to me too?
<v Speaker 5>Nine.
<v Speaker 2>So this is a du op of do Ops Baby.
<v Speaker 1>This one is an homage to Frankie Lyman of the teenagers.
<v Speaker 1>If you don't know that name Why Do Fools Fall
<v Speaker 1>in Love?
<v Speaker 3>If you play the beginning of the Longest Time, even
<v Speaker 3>just like the first ten seconds, and then play the
<v Speaker 3>first ten seconds of Why Do Fools Fall in Love,
<v Speaker 3>You'll be sitting there going, well, good Lord. Of course
<v Speaker 3>they're of course they're influenced by it.
<v Speaker 2>So he talks about how he was method singing on this, right,
<v Speaker 2>mm hmm, so he would pretend to be sort of
<v Speaker 2>these characters. He does all the vocals, all the backing vocals,
<v Speaker 2>he does all the snapping.
<v Speaker 6>That happens goes on. That's where you found when you
<v Speaker 6>put jars around me hang this time.
<v Speaker 2>The only thing instrument wise on this is there's a
<v Speaker 2>bass and somebody hitting a snare with the brushes.
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if that's right. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if there's a real bass or if it's just a
<v Speaker 1>bass somebody humming the bass notes, and it could be
<v Speaker 1>Billy Joel humming the bass notes. I mean, he's supposed
<v Speaker 1>to just have the lead part and have a vocal
<v Speaker 1>group come help him. By Phil Ramone the producers like,
<v Speaker 1>let's just have you do all of the parts and
<v Speaker 1>you can definitely hear his varying voices throughout. Yeah, for sure.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is a great one if you've got family
<v Speaker 3>and you want to sing this all together. It hits
<v Speaker 3>all the different people's ranges, like my kids, my wife
<v Speaker 3>will be in the car this song comes on. I
<v Speaker 3>let the rest of them take the high notes, and
<v Speaker 3>I'm usually the person sitting in the sitting in the
<v Speaker 3>driver's seat, or sitting somewhere else in the car going,
<v Speaker 3>oh the Longest I'm just picking up that part. Typically
<v Speaker 3>the other fun one about this one, and I think
<v Speaker 3>I've mentioned this a couple of times. There was a
<v Speaker 3>I think it's called Extraordinary. There was a series that
<v Speaker 3>was on CNN Plus in twenty twenty two and the
<v Speaker 3>interviewer was his name was, I think for Reid Zakaria,
<v Speaker 3>and he did an interview with Billy Joel as part
<v Speaker 3>of his Extraordinary People series. But there's a really cool
<v Speaker 3>part in there. They reference both this song for the
<v Speaker 3>Longest Time and Uptown Girl, And it's awesome because you
<v Speaker 3>watch Billy Joel in the interview is sitting at the
<v Speaker 3>piano and he's explaining how he believes some of his
<v Speaker 3>best songs have a very classical music bass to them,
<v Speaker 3>and he's and he just like, matter of fact, he says, well,
<v Speaker 3>like Uptown Girl. Uptown Girl has a has a Mozart
<v Speaker 3>bass to it. And I'm sitting there like wait, what yeah,
<v Speaker 3>And you see him in the video. He's like, let
<v Speaker 3>me play it for you. He starts to play just
<v Speaker 3>the just a very simple melody of Uptown Girl, and
<v Speaker 3>it sounds exactly like something Mozart would have written. And
<v Speaker 3>he's like, yeah, and we'll just we'll add this other
<v Speaker 3>little part over here, and he starts playing the whole
<v Speaker 3>thing on the piano, and I'm sitting there going, holy crap,
<v Speaker 3>Uptown Girl is Mozart. And then he plays he does
<v Speaker 3>this and he's like yeah, for the longest time, same thing,
<v Speaker 3>and he starts playing it and it sounds I think
<v Speaker 3>that one is maybe a little bit more of a
<v Speaker 3>of a Heiden, maybe a little bit of a Mozart.
<v Speaker 3>But he always talks about how he's so influenced by
<v Speaker 3>classical composers and and Beethoven is always his favorite. But
<v Speaker 3>there is so much when you if you take out
<v Speaker 3>the rest of the audio and just listen to him,
<v Speaker 3>you know, play the simple little melody on the piano
<v Speaker 3>of this it completely sounds like something Moltzart would have written.
<v Speaker 2>Beethoven gets a writing credit here in just a minute.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, incredible.
<v Speaker 2>I love the song. This song was released March of
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty four, reached number fourteen on the Hot one hundred,
<v Speaker 2>number one in the Adult Contemporary And this was one
<v Speaker 2>of the songs on the album that I wore out
<v Speaker 2>all the time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, love it.
<v Speaker 3>This is actually my favorite song on the album.
<v Speaker 2>Man, we still haven't got to my favorite song.
<v Speaker 1>How about that? We got three different ones?
<v Speaker 4>All right?
<v Speaker 2>Moving on to the next song on the album. This
<v Speaker 2>song is called this Night.
<v Speaker 6>Lassage was ready f man, we prum sweet.
<v Speaker 4>So Dan it was.
<v Speaker 7>Dance.
<v Speaker 2>I started breaking my promise.
<v Speaker 1>Say, okay, Jason, I'm gonna play this for you back
<v Speaker 1>to back. I'm gonna try to play this for you
<v Speaker 1>back to back so that hopefully you can hear it.
<v Speaker 5>Nice.
<v Speaker 1>It's a way nice.
<v Speaker 5>It is a long time away, yes night.
<v Speaker 3>And last for me, there was a kid at my
<v Speaker 3>daughter plays piano, and we were at one of our
<v Speaker 3>piano recitals and there was a kid that was gonna
<v Speaker 3>play piano Sonata number eight. And of course when the
<v Speaker 3>whole thing is over. I turned to my family and
<v Speaker 3>I said, you know what, any kid that plays Billy
<v Speaker 3>Joel at the piano recitals?
<v Speaker 1>So John, I was talking to Jason over the week
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, are you familiar with this Beethoven song?
<v Speaker 1>Because my dad used to play this on the piano
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Loved this Beethoven song. And when I
<v Speaker 1>listened to this night, this was another one of those
<v Speaker 1>undiscovered gems for me. When he hits the chorus at
<v Speaker 1>about fifty eight seconds into the song, I'm like, I
<v Speaker 1>know this tune. I know that, and I'm like, oh
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, this is Beethoven. And sure enough I looked
<v Speaker 1>it up. Not only does he homage to Beethoven along
<v Speaker 1>with the d wopping, but he also gives him writing credit.
<v Speaker 1>He gives him writing credit. No other band member, like
<v Speaker 1>his drummer Billy Joels, had to sue him to get
<v Speaker 1>some royalties for some of the stuff that he's done.
<v Speaker 1>Nobody else gets credited on this album except Billy Joel
<v Speaker 1>and l v B seven.
<v Speaker 3>And my discovery of this was backwards, Like I was
<v Speaker 3>listening to some Beethoven music at one point and I
<v Speaker 3>was like, Wow, he covered Billy Joel, that's really cool.
<v Speaker 3>Now he do that, that's awesome. It's a whole time
<v Speaker 3>travel thing. Well, and Billy Joel. He has said before
<v Speaker 3>Beethoven is probably his favorite classical composer because he looks
<v Speaker 3>at some of the others like he's made a comparison.
<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah, Mozart, it's kind of like Mozart showed
<v Speaker 3>up fully formed, like everything is is perfect and every
<v Speaker 3>note is in its right place, and Mozart, you know,
<v Speaker 3>basically like if you've seen the movie Amedais, I think
<v Speaker 3>Saliary makes a comment at one point and he's like,
<v Speaker 3>it's as if he's just dictating the music. It's like
<v Speaker 3>there's no scribbles, there's no you know, nothing is scratched off.
<v Speaker 3>It's just perfect as it's getting written down on the paper.
<v Speaker 3>And Bill Joel said that he actually owned a piece
<v Speaker 3>of an actual piece of Beethoven's music and that you
<v Speaker 3>take a look at it and there's whole sections that
<v Speaker 3>are just scratched off, like he got almost as if
<v Speaker 3>he got angry with the terrible parts he had written
<v Speaker 3>and just scratched him off. And he's like, that's why
<v Speaker 3>I love Beethoven. He said to me, Beethoven is the
<v Speaker 3>most human of composers because he's angry, he's got passion,
<v Speaker 3>he's got frustration. He's like to me, I can relate
<v Speaker 3>to him so much more than I can now that
<v Speaker 3>I don't love Mozart, but I can relate to him
<v Speaker 3>because he's just like me. You know.
<v Speaker 2>This song lyrically is about el McPherson and his relationship
<v Speaker 2>with her. She was nineteen when they were dating at
<v Speaker 2>the time.
<v Speaker 1>He would have been thirty four.
<v Speaker 2>So here's the idea, right, Elmi Feerston is like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I like you, let's keep it light, let's not get
<v Speaker 2>too serious, and he's like, right, right, sounds good. And
<v Speaker 2>what happens He falls madly in love with her, right,
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, as soon as he gets around her,
<v Speaker 2>all those rules go out the window. So that's what
<v Speaker 2>lyrically this song is about. This was actually the seventh single.
<v Speaker 2>This album had seven singles out of ten songs.
<v Speaker 1>This album is almost got a batting average, almost as
<v Speaker 1>good as can't put down. It's in crowd, right, so
<v Speaker 1>she says, let's just have fun. Let's just have some fun,
<v Speaker 1>no reason to get serious. Yeah, and he gets too serious,
<v Speaker 1>so she breaks up with him, and his rebound girlfriend
<v Speaker 1>is Christy Brinkley.
<v Speaker 3>My story is, it's a good gig if you can
<v Speaker 3>get it.
<v Speaker 2>You know, Oh my gosh, I've got a story. There's
<v Speaker 2>a blow your socks off. We're gonna get to it
<v Speaker 2>here in a couple of songs.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So interestingly, this one, as much as I like it,
<v Speaker 1>this just in the US only got released as the
<v Speaker 1>B side of Leave a Tender Moment Alone.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, Crazy reach number seventy eight on the Hot one hundred.
<v Speaker 3>This is such a great song between the Beethoven music
<v Speaker 3>and it just I mean some of the lyrics too,
<v Speaker 3>is just there are some some of my favorite Billy
<v Speaker 3>Joel lines are here. And so we dance, though it
<v Speaker 3>was only a slow dance. I started breaking my promises
<v Speaker 3>right there. And then. He will talk about how he's
<v Speaker 3>much more interested in the music than he is the lyrics.
<v Speaker 3>But in terms of being a songwriter, there's there's very
<v Speaker 3>few times I don't think he doesn't knock it out
<v Speaker 3>of the park.
<v Speaker 1>He is one of my favorite lyricists of all times.
<v Speaker 1>He absolutely such a picture. I mean, you know, all
<v Speaker 1>of the people at the piano bar. You know, the
<v Speaker 1>guys who are breaking their back, polishing their tires on
<v Speaker 1>moving out, you know, all like he has these images
<v Speaker 1>of these folks and he conveys it in such a
<v Speaker 1>perfect way through his lyrics. Definitely one of my favorites.
<v Speaker 2>The image that he always portrays for me that stands
<v Speaker 2>out is the microphone that smells like a beer.
<v Speaker 1>There you go.
<v Speaker 2>Every time he describes I'm like, yep, I'm with you?
<v Speaker 1>Makes sense?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, can we get to my favorite song?
<v Speaker 1>Oh?
<v Speaker 2>So here we are? All right, let's get to my
<v Speaker 2>favorite song on the album. It's the first single release.
<v Speaker 2>This song is called tell Her About It. I don't
<v Speaker 2>want to see you at a good thing? Snip away
<v Speaker 2>you know what?
<v Speaker 5>Don't like watch about it? Mate? Same mistakes that mate.
<v Speaker 7>She's an realize gal and she's always damp with you.
<v Speaker 1>So this song is obviously an homage to the Blues Brothers.
<v Speaker 1>The Blues Brothers when they when those orange blast in
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning. I am definitely thinking Jacob Elwood Blue
<v Speaker 1>to baby.
<v Speaker 2>How can you not tap your toes when you're listening
<v Speaker 2>to this song?
<v Speaker 1>Great?
<v Speaker 2>It's it's such a snappy, upbeat, feel good toe tapper,
<v Speaker 2>I crank it up every time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So this one actually is an homage to the Supremes
<v Speaker 2>and the Temptations right there in the heart of motown.
<v Speaker 1>Baby.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>He talked about about every time the Supremes sang a song,
<v Speaker 2>they were always giving some sort of advice.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. That's a good point.
<v Speaker 2>They're always giving advice. And so he's like, I want
<v Speaker 2>to be Diana Ross.
<v Speaker 3>To play this if you, if you to create like
<v Speaker 3>a I don't know, like a Dear Abby playlist, play
<v Speaker 3>this one back to back with you Can't hurry Love.
<v Speaker 1>She said, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
<v Speaker 3>Lyrically and stylistically, the two are the two are just
<v Speaker 3>they're they're like cousins.
<v Speaker 2>Spot on for sure.
<v Speaker 7>No tell the foul, tell everything, give every reason to
<v Speaker 7>accept chum.
<v Speaker 2>This was released July seventeenth, nineteen eighty three. This is
<v Speaker 2>the least single. It reached number one in September of
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty three. Knocking Out Maniac by Michael Simbelo Flash Chance. Yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 2>can we talk about the video for a second.
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the video, okay.
<v Speaker 2>So it's a old school style. They've got an guy
<v Speaker 2>looks just like at Sullivan and he's like, all right,
<v Speaker 2>ladies and gentlemen, mister William Joel. Billy Joel's like, listen,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not photogenic. I know, I'm not a great looking guy.
<v Speaker 2>He goes, So, when I did the videos, I was
<v Speaker 2>just pretended like I was Elvis. I didn't look like Elvis,
<v Speaker 2>but I pretended like I was Elvis, and that came
<v Speaker 2>off reasonably well. And then at the end of the video,
<v Speaker 2>you have, of course, mister Rodney Dangerfield repaying the favor
<v Speaker 2>of Billy Joel writing the song easy Money for his movie,
<v Speaker 2>and he's in the video, and the Ed Sullivan guy's like,
<v Speaker 2>and now the talented, the amazing Fonzie the Bear whatever,
<v Speaker 2>no respect for Rodney danger film.
<v Speaker 1>That's hysterical.
<v Speaker 2>All right, So I got a great story for you
<v Speaker 2>on the video for tell her about it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So he was directed by a guy named Jay Dubitt,
<v Speaker 2>and Jay when he set off, he never intended to
<v Speaker 2>do music videos. They're asking him about it. How did
<v Speaker 2>you get involved in music videos? You don't even really
<v Speaker 2>have a film background. He's like, I don't like music.
<v Speaker 2>Why would anybody call me? I don't even like music.
<v Speaker 2>I'd never listened to the radio. Not a music guy. Well,
<v Speaker 2>listen to this. This is how he got involved. He
<v Speaker 2>needed money, and so he started doing the crazy Eddie
<v Speaker 2>electronics commercials in New York City. Crazy and He's greatest
<v Speaker 2>TV and video sale ever. Get anything and everything in.
<v Speaker 3>TV and video. Crazy and He's greatest TV and video
<v Speaker 3>sale ever.
<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be insane.
<v Speaker 2>So he gets a call out of the blue from
<v Speaker 2>John Lennon. John Lennon sees these commercials and asked him,
<v Speaker 2>will you do my music video for Double Fantasy? And
<v Speaker 2>that's how he gets involved in making music videos. John
<v Speaker 2>Lennon calls him out of the.
<v Speaker 1>Freaking blue, No, who is this real?
<v Speaker 2>So he ends up doing listen to this? He does
<v Speaker 2>Private Eyes by Hello Notes. Uh huh, he does. I
<v Speaker 2>can't go for that. Yeh you make my dreams come true?
<v Speaker 2>And then of course tell her about it an uptown.
<v Speaker 1>Girl, so tell her about it. Also had a co director.
<v Speaker 1>Would you like to guess who the co director was?
<v Speaker 2>Christy Brigley close it was John's Oh yeah, so the
<v Speaker 2>guy whose wife.
<v Speaker 1>Billy Joel stole directed this video with the guy who
<v Speaker 1>hates music. I don't what I know how about that
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy.
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a few times during his life that he
<v Speaker 3>had a bit of a falling out with some folks,
<v Speaker 3>and thankfully it sounds like they've reconciled. Like said Liberty
<v Speaker 3>de Vito, his drummer, like they had a long falling
<v Speaker 3>out for a while. And one of the saxophonists that
<v Speaker 3>he worked with, they had a falling out for a while.
<v Speaker 3>But it kind of seems like that's a running theme
<v Speaker 3>of Billy Joel's career is all right, so we get
<v Speaker 3>angry at each other, we fight for a bit, and
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, maybe twenty years later, Okay.
<v Speaker 2>Yea, even Christy Brinkley they're divorced and they're still tight,
<v Speaker 2>you know.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. One of the other I love his band name
<v Speaker 3>in the music video is BJ in the Affordables.
<v Speaker 1>This is crazy. It's a lot of fun, a whole
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. Thanks me back.
<v Speaker 3>This song has not been performed live since nineteen eighty seven.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this blows me away. How in the world is
<v Speaker 2>a number one song not played live? I mean, I
<v Speaker 2>don't get it.
<v Speaker 3>So according to Billy Joel's from what I've heard is
<v Speaker 3>that there's a couple of different reasons partly he feels
<v Speaker 3>like he can't hit the falsetto notes anymore, which okay,
<v Speaker 3>I get that, But then the other part of it
<v Speaker 3>too is he kind of commented, like when the song
<v Speaker 3>was released on the album, he thought great fit and
<v Speaker 3>like it sounds great on the album. The video, I
<v Speaker 3>don't know that he was as happy with the video
<v Speaker 3>and how it all came off, you know, seeing himself
<v Speaker 3>perform this on a video, I don't think he was
<v Speaker 3>quite as happy with that. And he would perform it
<v Speaker 3>on stage when obviously when these albums came out, when
<v Speaker 3>they were doing the tours for Innocent Man and The Bridge,
<v Speaker 3>he just felt like it didn't work on stage. He's like,
<v Speaker 3>live on stage, this song doesn't work as well. It's
<v Speaker 3>meant to be within the context of an album. That's
<v Speaker 3>how you should listen to it. I'm not doing this
<v Speaker 3>one anymore. So he stopped it. After nineteen eighty seven,
<v Speaker 3>he stopped performing this one live.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I did hear him talked about his songs.
<v Speaker 2>He said, my songs are like children. Some of them
<v Speaker 2>grow up and their doctors and their lawyers and their teachers,
<v Speaker 2>and some of them are just kind of bums. This
<v Speaker 2>might be in that category, or he just doesn't hold
<v Speaker 2>it as high as he does other songs, you know.
<v Speaker 3>And some are Captain Jack that he demotes to private.
<v Speaker 2>All right, hit stop on your take, dick, take it out,
<v Speaker 2>flip it over for side two, and we started off
<v Speaker 2>with one of the biggest songs on the album. This
<v Speaker 2>song is called Uptown Girl.
<v Speaker 1>Okay for that first drum beat coming out, I mean
<v Speaker 1>it's like the beginning of Thriller. I mean, you know
<v Speaker 1>this song is going to be great as soon as
<v Speaker 1>you hear those first three beats.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's fantastic. What a great song this is.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is one of the other ones that he
<v Speaker 3>if you listen to that interview with him, he plays
<v Speaker 3>it as a kind of a classical Mozart bass and
<v Speaker 3>then he just kind of builds on it from there
<v Speaker 3>and you're like, good lord, that's so amazing that you
<v Speaker 3>strip away everything else, rip away the lyrics, trip away
<v Speaker 3>the vocal, strip away the all the other pieces, and
<v Speaker 3>it sounds so much like a Mozart song, but its
<v Speaker 3>homage to the Four Seasons, you know, And he wanted
<v Speaker 3>to do this as kind of a recording of you know,
<v Speaker 3>Frankie Valley in the Four Seasons in the sixties. And
<v Speaker 3>if you want to pair this with another song, which
<v Speaker 3>they kind of you know, they start off and they
<v Speaker 3>sound really similar. Is play this next to Big Girls
<v Speaker 3>Don't Cry?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking walk like a Man to me. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of walk like a Man out
<v Speaker 1>of this one. But still, Frankie Valley, this is a
<v Speaker 1>great one. I got to say. Back in the mid eighties, though,
<v Speaker 1>I got overwhelmed by this one. It was on so much,
<v Speaker 1>the video was on so much that I was like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>you've killed it for me. Guys, you've overdone it. Now
<v Speaker 1>I've grown to love it again. It's been long enough.
<v Speaker 1>I still enjoy it. But they beat me over the
<v Speaker 1>head with it.
<v Speaker 2>So this song is written a bit out Elle McPherson
<v Speaker 2>and Christy Briekley the Uptown Girls. It was plural. He
<v Speaker 2>started off writing it about el McPherson and then.
<v Speaker 1>Switched gears when she broke up with it.
<v Speaker 2>When they broke up and uh and Christy entered the picture.
<v Speaker 2>And of course Christy's in the video, so she's clearly
<v Speaker 2>the Uptown Girl.
<v Speaker 4>Now.
<v Speaker 2>So the video is you know, a car mechanic, Billy
<v Speaker 2>Joel running around with his buddy mechanics.
<v Speaker 1>It's very grease.
<v Speaker 2>It's very great.
<v Speaker 4>It is very grease.
<v Speaker 2>Here's the funny part is that the choreographer for the
<v Speaker 2>beat It video was working with Billy Joel and Christy Breekley,
<v Speaker 2>neither of whom can dance at all. Oh yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>he's like, all right, guys, listen, just one to kick, one,
<v Speaker 2>two kick, and they can barely do it, right.
<v Speaker 1>I kind of remember this guy talking. Now that you
<v Speaker 1>say this, you're bringing back a memory from literally thirty
<v Speaker 1>years ago. I can remember seeing that guy going, man,
<v Speaker 1>I don't even understand how this guy walks without falling over.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and she's no better, right right. So they talked
<v Speaker 2>about how they shot this video in New York City.
<v Speaker 2>It was like the hottest day of the year. It's
<v Speaker 2>like one hundred and ten degrees. Christy Brinkley was in
<v Speaker 2>high heels. She said it was so hot. Every time
<v Speaker 2>she took a step, her heels sank in the asphalt.
<v Speaker 2>And Billy Joels said, across the street, there's like five
<v Speaker 2>hundred people watching them. Philly video and Christy Brinkley's dancing
<v Speaker 2>and they're running around, and he said, about every ten minutes,
<v Speaker 2>some mooke would yell show us your no oh no,
<v Speaker 2>So there you go, New York City, some mooke, some mooke. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I've got something for you on this, okay. And I
<v Speaker 2>don't know the whole story, okay, But apparently Princess Diana
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty five wanted to surprise Prince Charles by
<v Speaker 2>appearing on stage of the Royal Ballet and she danced
<v Speaker 2>a choreographed dance to uptown girl. Oh my, this is
<v Speaker 2>Princess Diana. Yeah, there's no video of this. Apparently he
<v Speaker 2>didn't like it, okay, but she was doing it to
<v Speaker 2>impress him or you know, tantalize him or something.
<v Speaker 1>Huh.
<v Speaker 2>And it's actually portrayed in the Netflix series The Crown
<v Speaker 2>in the episode Avalanche. And you can actually watch this.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah have you seen it, John, Yeah, Yeah, we watched
<v Speaker 3>The Crown. Yeah, it's and it's it's such a funny
<v Speaker 3>story because it's Prince Charles, I think is so much well, now,
<v Speaker 3>King Charles, I think it probably would have just thrown
<v Speaker 3>him off that he's like, well, excuse me, I'm trying
<v Speaker 3>to enjoy an evening at the Ballet and I don't
<v Speaker 3>don't know why you're bringing in rock and roll. I
<v Speaker 3>feel like that that would have been his response to it.
<v Speaker 3>And she's probably thinking, you know, she's young and she's
<v Speaker 3>full of life, and she's like, I'm gonna do this,
<v Speaker 3>and maybe this will make my husband happy and maybe we'll,
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe this will kind of help our relationship
<v Speaker 3>a bit. And I can just picture him knowing a
<v Speaker 3>little bit of what I do about his personality just
<v Speaker 3>over the years, reading different things and and you know,
<v Speaker 3>seeing videos and documentaries with him, and I'm thinking he
<v Speaker 3>probably was just looking at that going, I guess the
<v Speaker 3>evening's over now, the ballet is done, and uh, all right,
<v Speaker 3>it's time to go home now.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, dude, flighten up a bit.
<v Speaker 2>Love this song, Love the video. This is definitely deep
<v Speaker 2>deep eighties for me.
<v Speaker 3>This is perfect karaoke material too. Yeah, like this is
<v Speaker 3>the high notes are tough to hit. But when I
<v Speaker 3>was teaching at one of our middle schools, and I
<v Speaker 3>was still a teacher in the building, we would have
<v Speaker 3>these nights a couple of nights a year, and we
<v Speaker 3>would have all kinds of games for the kids. They
<v Speaker 3>could come in after school and we'd have games for
<v Speaker 3>the kids and like obstacle courses and pizza and music
<v Speaker 3>and all kinds of other stuff. And one of the
<v Speaker 3>stations we always had in one of the rooms, one
<v Speaker 3>of the classrooms, was we had a karaoke machine. And
<v Speaker 3>this karaoke actually I think it was a PlayStation we
<v Speaker 3>had set up and it had the SingStar game where
<v Speaker 3>you could sing karaoke, and Uptown Girl was on the
<v Speaker 3>SingStar eighties version of it. And I don't know how
<v Speaker 3>this ever enticed any kids to come to this thing.
<v Speaker 3>The day before, like at the end of the school day,
<v Speaker 3>we would have a big assembly with all the kids
<v Speaker 3>in there. And actually I think it was Pat Cannagallo,
<v Speaker 3>who's on the thirty something podcast with me. I think
<v Speaker 3>we might have sang Uptown Girl. And as we were
<v Speaker 3>singing Uptown Girl, and nobody ever needs to hear me
<v Speaker 3>sing Uptown Girl, But as we were singing Uptown Girl
<v Speaker 3>in front of a gymnasium full of what would have
<v Speaker 3>been like six hundred middle school kids, we had cranked
<v Speaker 3>the volume up so high, and I think we were
<v Speaker 3>singing it so loud we blew out the speakers in
<v Speaker 3>the gym. Oh and so the gym teachers were mad
<v Speaker 3>at us, the facilities folks were mad at us, and
<v Speaker 3>we're like, okay, that's if you guys want to If
<v Speaker 3>you guys want to sing it, come back tonight. We'll
<v Speaker 3>do some more singing. But sorry, sorry, we didn't do that.
<v Speaker 3>Sip your waitress, but Uptown Girl, great karaoke song.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this one you talked about how it did in
<v Speaker 1>the US. This is his only number one hit in
<v Speaker 1>the UK, only one, and it knocked off a song
<v Speaker 1>from an album that you were a big fan of. Also,
<v Speaker 1>a UK band knocked it out for the number one
<v Speaker 1>position November nineteen eighty three. So like, I guess what
<v Speaker 1>that is? How about how do you like the Wolf? No?
<v Speaker 1>It is kar Machamelion by the Culture Plot.
<v Speaker 2>All right, next song on the album. This song is
<v Speaker 2>called Careless Talk.
<v Speaker 5>Oh oh.
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah yeah, yah yeah yeah ya.
<v Speaker 5>Man, let's talk him.
<v Speaker 2>That's what you heard about me.
<v Speaker 1>Let's do them, okay, boys. This one is an homage
<v Speaker 1>to the King of Soul himself, mister Sam Cook. And
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which song you guys think of when
<v Speaker 1>you think of Sam Cook, but for me, it's Twisted
<v Speaker 1>the Night Away and I could definitely hear it on
<v Speaker 1>this song.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this one, I think the one I and this
<v Speaker 3>is the one I was talking about earlier that I
<v Speaker 3>love Sam Cook.
<v Speaker 5>Letting me tell you about the place somewhere up.
<v Speaker 3>Like some of my when you go back to like
<v Speaker 3>the nineteen fifties and sixties, nineteen fifties in particular Sam Cook,
<v Speaker 3>Nat King Cole, I love those. In fact, I got
<v Speaker 3>picked on in high school because I was like some
<v Speaker 3>of my friends on the football team. They're like, so, like,
<v Speaker 3>would you guys get for Christmas? Like we're coming back
<v Speaker 3>and we're in the weight room after Christmas breaking, like,
<v Speaker 3>would you get for Christmas? I was like, guys, I
<v Speaker 3>got a four disc set of Nat King Cole's greatest hits.
<v Speaker 1>They're like, John was so cool? Can we hang out
<v Speaker 1>with you every day?
<v Speaker 3>They're like, Nat King what it was like? Uh? Is
<v Speaker 3>that a rapper? No lessen to all you kids out there.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe don't mention that in the locker room places where
<v Speaker 3>it's okay to mention that. Maybe not the locker room.
<v Speaker 3>But I love Sam Cook like he is on regular
<v Speaker 3>rotation for me. Now I had the songs I think
<v Speaker 3>about with that one actually the one that I paired
<v Speaker 3>with this one on my playlist was I did the
<v Speaker 3>song you send Me? But yeah, this is the one
<v Speaker 3>I was. I was mentioned earlier that I was just
<v Speaker 3>I was shocked. I was like, why did I not
<v Speaker 3>figure out? Of course he sounds like Sam Cook. I
<v Speaker 3>love Sam Cook. I listened to Sam Cook all the time.
<v Speaker 3>How did I not connect careless talk with Sam Cook?
<v Speaker 3>And it just it blew my mind when I realized,
<v Speaker 3>you are so dumb? Why don't you like pay attention sometimes?
<v Speaker 1>I went down the rabbit hole of Sam Cook in
<v Speaker 1>the research for this one, and boy, interesting death he
<v Speaker 1>had at thirty three years old. I'm not going to
<v Speaker 1>go into that story because we don't have a time
<v Speaker 1>for that. But wow, that's that's a strange set of
<v Speaker 1>circumstances there. Okay, I'm teasing you with it. Someday we'll
<v Speaker 1>talk about Sam Cook's death, but it's not gonna be today.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is the weakest song on the whole album
<v Speaker 2>for me. Okay, this is my least favorite song. It's
<v Speaker 2>just kind of there. It's not a bad song, it's
<v Speaker 2>just kind of there, you know, it's not Skipper, just
<v Speaker 2>kind of waiting for the next one.
<v Speaker 1>All right, we done with the one. Are you ready
<v Speaker 1>for the next one?
<v Speaker 2>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>All right? Then the next one is song number eight, Christy.
<v Speaker 4>Leet So if you don't.
<v Speaker 1>Hear Jerry Lee Lewis or Little Richard on this one,
<v Speaker 1>you are missing the boat, my friend.
<v Speaker 2>All right, listen, this is this is what this song
<v Speaker 2>reminds me of. Okay, yeah, have you ever seen whose line?
<v Speaker 4>Is it?
<v Speaker 2>Anyway?
<v Speaker 4>Yes?
<v Speaker 2>And they get Wayne Brady and they're like, we'll grab
<v Speaker 2>somebody out of the crowd. What's your name, honey, Christy Lee?
<v Speaker 2>All right, you're going to sing the Christy Lee in
<v Speaker 2>the style of Jerry Lee Lewis ready said, go boom.
<v Speaker 2>This sounds like you just made it up on the
<v Speaker 2>spot singing about his girlfriend Christy Lee.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he did.
<v Speaker 2>I know, he said it poured out of him. But
<v Speaker 2>this sounds like an improv song.
<v Speaker 1>John, what do you think this one is?
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's absolutely Little Richard, Fats Domino, Jerry
<v Speaker 3>Lee Lewis. In fact, if there's if there's a song
<v Speaker 3>you wanted to pair this one with, I would say
<v Speaker 3>listen to this one. And they almost just sound like
<v Speaker 3>clones of each other. Listen to this one. Next to
<v Speaker 3>Little Richard's long, tall Sally. Maybe he came the music
<v Speaker 3>buddy and a lot of fun. It is almost like
<v Speaker 3>I mean, especially as it starts off, it is almost
<v Speaker 3>like a clone of this song Billy Joel, I want
<v Speaker 3>to say, covered Great Balls of Fire at a at
<v Speaker 3>a concert in eighty one and sounded a lot like
<v Speaker 3>Christy Lee. This is the one where I found the
<v Speaker 3>My Lives album, which is like the remixes and the
<v Speaker 3>demos and the and actually listening to it, both my
<v Speaker 3>wife and I agreed. We think we like the demo,
<v Speaker 3>like the unreleased demo version better than the album version
<v Speaker 3>of Christy Lee. His vocals are clearer and the piano
<v Speaker 3>is much clearer. I mean, this one's fun because it's
<v Speaker 3>it's fun. It's it's you know, a pan I know,
<v Speaker 3>rock song, But I feel like you just hear the
<v Speaker 3>most important parts his voice and the piano you hear
<v Speaker 3>just a little bit cleaner in the demo version of it.
<v Speaker 3>So if you get a chance to go find that one,
<v Speaker 3>definitely listen to that. But it's kind of a fun song,
<v Speaker 3>especially if you like trying to figure out, you know,
<v Speaker 3>lyrics that maybe don't mean what you think they mean,
<v Speaker 3>or maybe when I don't know, when a song called
<v Speaker 3>Lakeshore Drive really isn't about the road that's in Chicago,
<v Speaker 3>maybe it is, or or maybe it's about LSD in
<v Speaker 3>this song. Maybe a saxophone is just a saxophone. It's
<v Speaker 3>probably not, you know, Or when when you're shocked as
<v Speaker 3>a teenager to realize exactly what the song the ZZ
<v Speaker 3>top song I Got the six is about, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it's It's one of those songs. It can be an
<v Speaker 3>eye opening song when you learn what the lyrics are about.
<v Speaker 1>After the words the ZZ top song, you literally could
<v Speaker 1>have said any yes, any easy top song and it
<v Speaker 1>would have be like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's what that
<v Speaker 1>pearl necklace?
<v Speaker 2>Right? Okay. I got to tell you about the greatest
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours in the nineteen eighties. Okay, yeah, we
<v Speaker 2>talked about this on our Lionel Richie episode that Lionel
<v Speaker 2>Richie may have had the greatest twenty four hours in
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighties. He hosted the AMAS, won six Awards,
<v Speaker 2>and then afterwards, as a post AMA party, they recorded
<v Speaker 2>We Are the World and fed millions of people from
<v Speaker 2>the proceeds of that song. Yeah, that's a pretty freaking great.
<v Speaker 2>Twenty four hours sure, Okay, Now, then let's pairro it
<v Speaker 2>versus this twenty four hour period. Okay, Billy Joel is
<v Speaker 2>dating El McPherson on and off. Okay, she goes back
<v Speaker 2>to Australia, and now he's got his sight set on
<v Speaker 2>Christy Lee Briekley. She had been seeing a guy he
<v Speaker 2>was killed in an accident and he is there as
<v Speaker 2>a friend and.
<v Speaker 1>Race card driver.
<v Speaker 2>Right yeah, yeah, starts to kind of move in for
<v Speaker 2>the kill. He invites her back to his apartment. Christy
<v Speaker 2>Brinkley has agreed to go back to apartment and inside
<v Speaker 2>he's jumping for joy. This is the night, right, this night,
<v Speaker 2>this night, this night, Yes with Christy Lee.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>They get back to his apartment and when he opens
<v Speaker 2>the door, there's El McPherson with her luggage and she's
<v Speaker 2>crashing at his apartment. Oh, this man had El McPherson
<v Speaker 2>and Christy Brinkley on the hook at the exact same moment.
<v Speaker 2>We share oxygen with this person. But there's a real
<v Speaker 2>person out there who was able to pull this off.
<v Speaker 1>And let's not forget that Billy Joel looks like Billy
<v Speaker 1>Joels exactly he does not look like Chris Hemsworth. He
<v Speaker 1>looks like Billy Joel.
<v Speaker 2>He was like, if the guy's back at Hicksville Cove,
<v Speaker 2>see me.
<v Speaker 1>I tried to. I think I mentioned this. I was
<v Speaker 1>talking to my wife about this. I'm like, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>there's just no way that this makes any sense except
<v Speaker 1>that he's a rock star. And she's like, oh, no,
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of cute. Sometimes I'm like, he doesn't sing
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't play the piano. What do you think now,
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh no, he's a toad. I'm like, that's
<v Speaker 1>right exactly.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you guys, I don't know if
<v Speaker 3>you guys know that there was There was actually a
<v Speaker 3>poem that was written a very long time ago, and
<v Speaker 3>it actually prophesied this moment. Are you guys familiar with
<v Speaker 3>Robert Frost the last stanza of one of his most
<v Speaker 3>famous poems. I shall be telling this with a sigh
<v Speaker 3>somewhere Ages and ages. Hence, two blondes diverged in an
<v Speaker 3>apartment and I it didn't matter which one, and that
<v Speaker 3>has made all the difference.
<v Speaker 4>It is very nice.
<v Speaker 2>So the rest of the story is Christy Brinkley excused
<v Speaker 2>herself politely left and Elle McPherson was just there to crash.
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think he quote unquote closed the deal
<v Speaker 2>with either of them that night. And he said still,
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't help thinking Frank Sinatra would have somehow made
<v Speaker 2>a threesome of that night and instead swinging a miss.
<v Speaker 2>Swinging a miss the reason he's the chairman.
<v Speaker 3>Word Frank, Frank does it his way.
<v Speaker 2>Still, that's a pretty impressive twenty four hour period to
<v Speaker 2>have those women both at your apartment at.
<v Speaker 3>The same time.
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying that Christy Brinkley left tender man went alone.
<v Speaker 2>She left a tender moment alone. Let's move on to that.
<v Speaker 1>Song, all right, number nine on the album, second to
<v Speaker 1>the last song we have leave a tender moment alone.
<v Speaker 2>Even the alone.
<v Speaker 6>Sometimes I gets so afraid I'll say something, so.
<v Speaker 5>Just to have something to say, know the moment, is it?
<v Speaker 1>Okay?
<v Speaker 4>Guys?
<v Speaker 1>The beautiful blues harp that you hear on this particular.
<v Speaker 2>Song is by mister Toots Steelman's our man, Toots Steelman.
<v Speaker 1>That part to me is very rain drops falling on
<v Speaker 1>my head.
<v Speaker 2>I can see that that.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it hits me that way every single time
<v Speaker 1>now This song is an homage to Smokey Robinson, so
<v Speaker 1>I can kind of hear that too, but I'm def
<v Speaker 1>thinking raindrops falling on my head.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think I paired this one on my playlist
<v Speaker 3>with Being with You I Smokey Robinson. As I was
<v Speaker 3>writing down my list of how I would rank the
<v Speaker 3>songs on this album, it ended up in this almost
<v Speaker 3>started an argument in our house. This one actually ended
<v Speaker 3>up last on the list for me, but I had
<v Speaker 3>to clarify that and say, okay, hold on, now, this
<v Speaker 3>is last on the list for the entire Innocent Man album.
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't mean anything like last on my list for
<v Speaker 3>this album is like still at the top of almost
<v Speaker 3>all Billy Joel songs. You know this, like you were
<v Speaker 3>saying earlier, to have seven of these songs seven out
<v Speaker 3>of ten, you know, reached the heights that they did.
<v Speaker 3>But it's just it's such a beautiful song and the
<v Speaker 3>lyrics are so good.
<v Speaker 2>I love this one. This reached number twenty seven and
<v Speaker 2>the Hot one hundred, number one on the Adult Contemporary.
<v Speaker 2>Is this a country song?
<v Speaker 3>It feels like it a bit. I think there's moments
<v Speaker 3>where it kind of feels it's got a little little
<v Speaker 3>tiny bit of a country sound to it.
<v Speaker 1>I think, Oh, I mean the song that I'm relating
<v Speaker 1>it to came from a cowboy movie, so you get yes,
<v Speaker 1>there you go.
<v Speaker 2>This was the fifth single this kind radio play. I
<v Speaker 2>remember this song very well, being making the rounds.
<v Speaker 1>You know, for sure I love it.
<v Speaker 3>And what I mean, what person hasn't been in the situation,
<v Speaker 3>you know, you go with. I want to say, it's
<v Speaker 3>like the second let me the second stanza in the song,
<v Speaker 3>I know the moment. Is it right to tell the
<v Speaker 3>girl a comical line? Keep the conversation light? I guess
<v Speaker 3>I'm just frightened out of my mind. You know, Like
<v Speaker 3>we said, this whole album is him going through that
<v Speaker 3>dating phase, you know, after his divorce and this whole
<v Speaker 3>dating feeling like a kid again. And I'm like, this
<v Speaker 3>song kind of takes you back to that whole feeling
<v Speaker 3>of like, Okay, I don't want to screw this up.
<v Speaker 3>Just don't want me screw this up. Let me say
<v Speaker 3>the right thing, let me at the right time. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And even better than saying something to screw it up,
<v Speaker 2>just don't say anything at all. Leave a tender moment alone.
<v Speaker 3>Leave it alone. A lot of really good advice in
<v Speaker 3>this album. Yeah, tell her about it, but sometimes shut up.
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's good. All right, let's move on to
<v Speaker 2>the last song on the album. This song is called
<v Speaker 2>even the Faith.
<v Speaker 5>If it seems like Tamplin Loston, Let's remember.
<v Speaker 7>If you can feeling Nola Ram missing my younger days.
<v Speaker 5>Show. I don't know him much.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is a super catchy song. It was
<v Speaker 2>on the radio all the time. But for me, the
<v Speaker 2>most interesting thing to talk about here is the music video.
<v Speaker 2>Richard Pryor, Christy Brinkley again, and Joe Piscopo. Actually, there's
<v Speaker 2>also another guy I want to mention. His name's Richard
<v Speaker 2>Schule from the movie Splash. He plays doctor Ross. There's
<v Speaker 2>the guy who tells Eugene Levy's character why don't you
<v Speaker 2>run along and find a Unicorn? He plays the judge
<v Speaker 2>in this video on the album cover, as well the
<v Speaker 2>single Oh Yeah, run along now Walter and see if
<v Speaker 2>you can't find a Unicorn?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just him and Billy Joel, but he's still the
<v Speaker 1>judge in that one.
<v Speaker 2>Nice, but this is great, Like Billy Joel's on trial,
<v Speaker 2>is he or is he not? Keeping the fake you know, judge,
<v Speaker 2>they say justice is blind.
<v Speaker 3>I shore hope it ain't deaf, but.
<v Speaker 2>It's a big coin in the jukebox and starts to
<v Speaker 2>play this song and sing it for the judge.
<v Speaker 3>John Way think this one's very specific. It's an homage
<v Speaker 3>to a particular song. Betty writes, clean Up Woman. It's
<v Speaker 3>got a little bit of a British rock sound to it.
<v Speaker 3>But if you play that song, Betty writes, clean Up Woman,
<v Speaker 3>I mean the start, the kind of beat you get
<v Speaker 3>at the start of this one and at the start
<v Speaker 3>of that song mirror images of each other.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>But the other really kind of cool thing about this
<v Speaker 3>one is I almost like, in my in my mind,
<v Speaker 3>in my head canon, I treat this one as a
<v Speaker 3>little bit of kind of a personal prequel to We
<v Speaker 3>Didn't Start the Fire. You know, let's let's make a
<v Speaker 3>superhero analogy. You've got your Iron Man, your Thor, your
<v Speaker 3>Captain America. They're gonna go off and they're gonna handle
<v Speaker 3>stuff like Thanos, like they're going to handle your your
<v Speaker 3>galaxy threatening villains. And then you've got Spider Man, and
<v Speaker 3>spider Man is usually like your street level hero. You've
<v Speaker 3>got your Spider Man your Daredevil. They're handling stuff on
<v Speaker 3>the streets, they're not fighting aliens. I see this one
<v Speaker 3>as keeping the faith is kind of like the very
<v Speaker 3>personal let me walk you through my childhood, my teenage years.
<v Speaker 3>Let me kind of give you the timeline of what
<v Speaker 3>it was like to grow up Billy Joel. Then if
<v Speaker 3>you take this one and you play we Didn't Start
<v Speaker 3>the Fire next, it's almost like you're zooming out onto
<v Speaker 3>like a global layer at that point, and you're saying, like, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>this is what it like it was like personally to
<v Speaker 3>be Billy Joel. But here's like what the rest of
<v Speaker 3>the world was going through while I was also growing
<v Speaker 3>up and through all these years. So I kind of
<v Speaker 3>sometimes will treat this one as if it's like a
<v Speaker 3>prequel to We Didn't Start the Fire.
<v Speaker 1>Well, that that's really cool?
<v Speaker 4>Agree? I like that?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, the red herd girl in the back
<v Speaker 2>of a Chevrolet is a real person. So in the video,
<v Speaker 2>she's played by Christy Briekley, and her hair is like
<v Speaker 2>spray painted red. It looks terrible, But this was when
<v Speaker 2>he first started playing live. He was playing and he
<v Speaker 2>locked eyes with this beautiful redhead and he started to
<v Speaker 2>realize the power of rock and roll. Well, they ended
<v Speaker 2>up dating, and more than dating, he made it with
<v Speaker 2>that girl in the back of a Chevrolet, And when
<v Speaker 2>she went to break up with him to go to college,
<v Speaker 2>he's like, you can't break up with me. We've had sex,
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, so what. That's when he realized he
<v Speaker 2>falls super easy for women. Yeah, he just can't help himself.
<v Speaker 2>When he's with the woman, he falls head out of
<v Speaker 2>her heels. And that's why a lot of his songs
<v Speaker 2>are just would be love songs. He loves women.
<v Speaker 1>All he can think of is Matthew McConaughey and Days
<v Speaker 1>to Confused. I love those redheads, Love those red heads. Man.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, that girl's name was Patty Lee Beridge.
<v Speaker 3>He's a little bit like doctor Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park.
<v Speaker 3>He's he's always looking for the future. Ex missus Joel.
<v Speaker 2>All right, well, that completes the album An Innocent Man.
<v Speaker 1>Now we have to do Oh my god, final judgment time, Johnny,
<v Speaker 1>Are you able to do final Judgment with us?
<v Speaker 2>Lionel Richie versus Billy Joel?
<v Speaker 1>I mean, do we even need to ask?
<v Speaker 3>You don't need to ask my final judgment will be
<v Speaker 3>and nothing against him at all. But my final judgment
<v Speaker 3>is Lionel.
<v Speaker 1>Who okay, d okay. So, as I mentioned, Billy Joel
<v Speaker 1>was huge part of my childhood growing up. I mean
<v Speaker 1>I literally have a music book of his downstairs that
<v Speaker 1>I have learned to play songs of his huge, huge factor. However,
<v Speaker 1>Can't Slow Down songs are so good and every single
<v Speaker 1>song is so good on that album. Even though I
<v Speaker 1>love a lot of the songs on Innocent Man, of
<v Speaker 1>all of Billy Joel's songs, unlike John here, Innocent Man
<v Speaker 1>is on the lower side of my favorite Billy Joel songs.
<v Speaker 1>I like a lot of them, but they're not my
<v Speaker 1>favorite Billy Joel songs. For the complete catalog, it is
<v Speaker 1>mister Joel every day, all day, no question about it.
<v Speaker 1>But album to album, which is what we're talking about here,
<v Speaker 1>Innocent Man, Can't Slow Down.
<v Speaker 4>Can't Slow Down was too.
<v Speaker 1>Much of a powerhouse wow, too much of a big
<v Speaker 1>hitter for me in that time. I'm given the nod
<v Speaker 1>to Can't Slow Down the mount of Richie, which means
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be the tiebreaker, my friend.
<v Speaker 2>All right, So John voted Innocent Man. You voted Can't
<v Speaker 2>Slow Down. I loved both. I grew up with both.
<v Speaker 2>These were both owned by my parents. They spun them
<v Speaker 2>all the time. It was just something I was around.
<v Speaker 2>But for me, the songs on An Innocent Man are
<v Speaker 2>a little more rock and roll and a little less country.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to cast my vote with the wonderful
<v Speaker 2>seven singles out of ten Billy Joel album An Innocent Man,
<v Speaker 2>Spike the Football An Innocent Man, although I still love
<v Speaker 2>cancel it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I can't falter you, guys. I love the
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<v Speaker 4>Nineties and beyond.
<v Speaker 1>John, thank you so much for coming and joining us
<v Speaker 1>on this adventure again. I can't wait till we start
<v Speaker 1>doing podcasts full of Kryptonite again. Tell us what's coming
<v Speaker 1>up for the thirty something movie podcast.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, We've got the next few months or so,
<v Speaker 3>or just there's so much. We're in ninety three right now,
<v Speaker 3>since it's twenty twenty three at the time of this recording,
<v Speaker 3>we're in ninety three. We've just got done doing Cliffhanger,
<v Speaker 3>Groundhog Day. We've got Falling Down and Fugitive in the
<v Speaker 3>month of March, and then you know, coming up in April,
<v Speaker 3>Sleepless in Seattle. Gettysburg the one I'm really looking forward to, though,
<v Speaker 3>I've been waiting for a while to talk about this one.
<v Speaker 3>Coming in in May, we're doing Demolition Man. I have
<v Speaker 3>such an unreasonable love of this movie when we started.
<v Speaker 3>When we started the podcast and I asked our co
<v Speaker 3>host Pat, I'm like, it's it's twenty fifteen, Pat, what
<v Speaker 3>movie are you looking forward to? Batman? Pat, We're doing
<v Speaker 3>that one in four years. I know, like there have
<v Speaker 3>been moments where I was like, what am I looking
<v Speaker 3>forward to? As we're doing this show Rocketeer. All right,
<v Speaker 3>Rocketeers coming in ninety one, So I got a little
<v Speaker 3>bit of time to wait. What was the next one
<v Speaker 3>after that? I'm like, demolition Man, all right, that's two
<v Speaker 3>years away. Well we're there, so that's probably what I'm
<v Speaker 3>looking forward to is getting a demolition Man in May.
<v Speaker 2>John, thanks so much for being with us.
<v Speaker 4>Man.
<v Speaker 2>We appreciate you, We enjoy you, and you've been a
<v Speaker 2>mentor for us, So thank you so much.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we as as I we might have been
<v Speaker 3>off Mike when we were talking about it, but you
<v Speaker 3>guys got many many shout outs in our groundhog Day episode.
<v Speaker 3>We were basically saying, we're doing a quick flyby of
<v Speaker 3>groundhog Day, but if you want to hear in depth stuff,
<v Speaker 3>you got to go over and listen to the Shirley
<v Speaker 3>Podcast guys. Because that and and I was like, I
<v Speaker 3>got a really clever idea. I'm going to restart our
<v Speaker 3>show like three or four times just to kind of
<v Speaker 3>be funny. And then your show came out and I
<v Speaker 3>was like, God, bless it, they already did it.
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you man, We appreciate that. What do we
<v Speaker 1>got coming up next next week?
<v Speaker 2>We've got raising Arizona versus the Big Labouski.
<v Speaker 4>Oh yay, I'm.
<v Speaker 3>That is the only way I can respond to that.
<v Speaker 3>In in the matrix, when you have the one female character,
<v Speaker 3>I'm blanking out on what her name was, but right
<v Speaker 3>before they unplug her, she just looks and go not
<v Speaker 3>like this, not like this. That's oh that is that
<v Speaker 3>is cruel. That is just cruel to pit those against
<v Speaker 3>each other. You know, you've you've got the dude Abides versus.
<v Speaker 3>What we're trying to say is we felt the institution
<v Speaker 3>no longer had anything to offer us. I don't know
<v Speaker 3>how to pick between those two.
<v Speaker 2>I know, right big Lebaski is hitting his twenty fifth anniversary.
<v Speaker 2>I know, come back next week to hear that matchup
<v Speaker 2>and go over to thirty something and catch their stuff
<v Speaker 2>and then also join us on podcasts full of Kryptite.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Yeah, we're looking forward to that one coming back.
<v Speaker 3>I think it's gonna be a great season of Superman
<v Speaker 3>and Lows. I'm looking forward to it.
<v Speaker 1>I want to go binge watch the last two seasons,
<v Speaker 1>listen to our podcast, and you'll be done.
<v Speaker 4>That's right.
<v Speaker 2>We will see you, John, We'll see you down the
<v Speaker 2>road and everybody else will see you next week.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah yeah, just him and Billy Joel, but he's
<v Speaker 1>still the judge in that one.
<v Speaker 2>Nice you're a judge, I am.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for reminding me.