"Ninety Days in the 90s" (2022) with Andy Frye

<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't
<v Speaker 1>Be Serious Podcast. We are here with a special interview episode.
<v Speaker 1>Oh snap, We're getting ready to get jiggy with Andy Frye,
<v Speaker 1>who is pretty fly for a white guy, talking about
<v Speaker 1>his new book, which is hella good.
<v Speaker 2>No, stop stop, what that is awful?
<v Speaker 1>Hey, talk to the hand.
<v Speaker 3>I knew you're gonna say, talk to the hand, and
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna say, don't go there because wrapped up in
<v Speaker 3>the nineties already, I guess.
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, what what's sapped? Andy Frye. So, dear Shirley listeners,
<v Speaker 1>we are here talking with the author of a new
<v Speaker 1>book called ninety Days in the Nineties. I don't think
<v Speaker 1>it's given up too much to say. There's a little
<v Speaker 1>time travel involved and obviously going back to the last
<v Speaker 1>decade of the millennium. Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 2>We both read it and had a blast.
<v Speaker 3>Many I'm glad you liked it. It was fun to write.
<v Speaker 1>So tell us about you, Andy. You you've done sports writing,
<v Speaker 1>You've had stuff with Rolling Stone and what was the
<v Speaker 1>other Man? ESPN? ESPN. Tell us about your kind of
<v Speaker 1>your history in the writing world.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I started off doing a nine to
<v Speaker 3>five like a lot of people, and you know, writing
<v Speaker 3>was always a hobby in the background. So but I
<v Speaker 3>wrote for ESPN for about six years. So most of it,
<v Speaker 3>especially in the beginning, was extreme sports. So you probably
<v Speaker 3>remember page two and all the wacky stuff that was
<v Speaker 3>on page two. And one of the cool things was
<v Speaker 3>at the same time I was writing, so probably like
<v Speaker 3>twenty eleven in two thousand and let's say sixteen, one
<v Speaker 3>of my favorite features there, like there's a lot of
<v Speaker 3>stupid stuff and some of it was that Disney has
<v Speaker 3>the Jonas Brothers, so they're like, hey, we own ESPN.
<v Speaker 3>Let's put let's put the Jonas Brothers on the ESPN basketball.
<v Speaker 3>We'll we'll play pick up with you know, Bonzie Wells
<v Speaker 3>or whoever back, you know, whoever you can find to
<v Speaker 3>hang out with him for We'll pay him enough. But
<v Speaker 3>but I love the fact that Duff mccag and from
<v Speaker 3>Guns of Rose is the bass player. He's a great writer.
<v Speaker 3>He actually wrote a book on his own. He would
<v Speaker 3>write a Wednesday column and I would always read and
<v Speaker 3>I think it must have been when he was with
<v Speaker 3>delet Revolver. He'd go around the country talk about, like,
<v Speaker 3>you know, playing live, but also talking like football trash
<v Speaker 3>talk with the lead singer Pantera. I remember the lead
<v Speaker 3>singer Pantera is a Saints fan, and Duff, you know
<v Speaker 3>from Pacific Northwest, he's a Seahawks fan, and you know,
<v Speaker 3>they kind of lay it out as like we would
<v Speaker 3>with our friends. You know, you could go visit one
<v Speaker 3>of your friends from college or I don't know, you're
<v Speaker 3>you're in the printing business and you go to printing conference,
<v Speaker 3>but you're gonna en up talking about music and sports,
<v Speaker 3>and that's how I think a lot of Americans are,
<v Speaker 3>so uh yeah, I just kind of followed that, like
<v Speaker 3>I consider myself a fan first, and I you know,
<v Speaker 3>I would have written about log tossing championships for ESPN.
<v Speaker 3>I just kind of wanted to write about things that
<v Speaker 3>I thought were fun and fascinating, and so the first
<v Speaker 3>couple of articles I wrote for them were extreme sports.
<v Speaker 3>I actually did cover Southside Catholic football for a while
<v Speaker 3>in the fall of twenty eleven. I basically had a
<v Speaker 3>game a weekend and would cover like I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>like a Saint Ritas versus Mount Carmel and kind of
<v Speaker 3>all the parochial stuff that happens here in Chicago. And
<v Speaker 3>then I had a stint just covering, like I mean,
<v Speaker 3>what it was was aging rock starts and talking about sports.
<v Speaker 3>I first started out with Billy from Smashing Pumpkins, who
<v Speaker 3>was starting a wrestling league. He actually just started another
<v Speaker 3>wrestling league now that his band is playing again. A guy,
<v Speaker 3>he's a guy who always needs to keep busy, I guess, wow.
<v Speaker 3>And I was blogging first site that was owned by
<v Speaker 3>the Tribune, and I was the one person who got
<v Speaker 3>the interview with him. I think just because our community
<v Speaker 3>manager at the site was like, Hey, if you want
<v Speaker 3>to interview Billy from Smashing Pumpkins as a wrestling league,
<v Speaker 3>you know, here's here's who you contact. Don't bug me
<v Speaker 3>about it. Good luck. You know. Literally, within within an hour,
<v Speaker 3>I'm writing an email, like you know, with ESPN and
<v Speaker 3>the subject line thick and I maybe I'll get a
<v Speaker 3>bite on this. And I did, and we talked about
<v Speaker 3>just sports fandom and why he's starting in his wrestling league,
<v Speaker 3>and I eventually kind of played frogger hopped a couple
<v Speaker 3>other interesting rockers who taught wanted to talk to me
<v Speaker 3>about sports, like Noel from Oasis had a new band
<v Speaker 3>at the time, which he still has now. I got
<v Speaker 3>to talk. I got to do an email exchange with
<v Speaker 3>Marssey from the Smiths, you know, the great Marssy, the
<v Speaker 3>Fussy Morrissey, and talked about English football and some things
<v Speaker 3>like that, and I just kind of, you know, I
<v Speaker 3>just kind of took a project by project until about
<v Speaker 3>the probably the summer twenty sixteen, and I made a
<v Speaker 3>contact at Rolling Stone who was kind of their new
<v Speaker 3>sports editor, and I lucked out that he was a
<v Speaker 3>Cubs fan from Chicago, so, you know, and this is
<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen, when the Cubs are awesome and they won,
<v Speaker 3>We're going to go on to win the World Series.
<v Speaker 3>So I just always you know, I was in sales
<v Speaker 3>and account management for party of twenty years. I just
<v Speaker 3>kind of used that sink or swim impulse of like
<v Speaker 3>reaching out with people, following up, you know, throwing ideas
<v Speaker 3>out there and not getting offended with people like editors
<v Speaker 3>would say no. And it's opened a lot of doors,
<v Speaker 3>a lot of cool a lot of cool interviews and
<v Speaker 3>just a lot of cool. You know, as a freelance writer,
<v Speaker 3>I've got to do a lot more. Probably the most
<v Speaker 3>freelancers just get to do, and you know, that's that's
<v Speaker 3>kind of the brunt of my sports writing career.
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say, you've talked to athletes about music,
<v Speaker 1>and you've talked to musicians about sports, and you've talked
<v Speaker 1>to Tom Brady about fashion.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, we.
<v Speaker 1>Need to hear about that. I was going to say,
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of fascinated by the let's talk about the
<v Speaker 1>thing that's not related to what you're famous for kind
<v Speaker 1>of idea. I think that's fantastic.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, maybe that's why I ended up at Forbes.
<v Speaker 3>Things are kind of floundering at in about twenty eighteen,
<v Speaker 3>at Rolling Stone they had a new buyer and they
<v Speaker 3>kind of rebrand and just went like they kind of
<v Speaker 3>dumped a lot of the pop culture that wasn't music related,
<v Speaker 3>went straight to music. So I kind of saw the
<v Speaker 3>writing on the wall. I just looked around and talked
<v Speaker 3>to some people, and I ended up at Forbes as
<v Speaker 3>a freelancer there. So the cool part about that is
<v Speaker 3>it it's, you know, right for the sports vertical, basically
<v Speaker 3>the sports business vertical. So sports business can be different
<v Speaker 3>things to different people. I mean, the first really well
<v Speaker 3>known athlete I interviewed there, but that was in May,
<v Speaker 3>or like June of twenty eighteen, right after I started
<v Speaker 3>there interview Johnny Bench and he was doing it must
<v Speaker 3>have been in May, because you maybe in April. You
<v Speaker 3>may remember this about five six years ago, Major League
<v Speaker 3>Baseball decided that everybody was going to have everybody's gonna
<v Speaker 3>play Opening Day on the same day, so all thirty
<v Speaker 3>teams were playing. So Kingsford Charcoal had this commercial with
<v Speaker 3>a couple of different players, but I remember the one
<v Speaker 3>that I saw, I had seen a couple of times
<v Speaker 3>was Johnny Bench was like literally sitting at desk cold
<v Speaker 3>calling baseball fans won by but like, hey, you're gonna
<v Speaker 3>be there there, Hey, I'll see you there. You know
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be there. I thought it was funny because
<v Speaker 3>I was in sales, and you know, I pitched stocks
<v Speaker 3>and currencies, and I smiled and dialed you know, way
<v Speaker 3>too long, and I just kind of like two and
<v Speaker 3>two connected. I thought, well, if I could search online
<v Speaker 3>for these sometimes you look at like business Wire, there's
<v Speaker 3>sites that have the press releases that become the basis
<v Speaker 3>of an article. I knew that much, and I figured
<v Speaker 3>if I could find out who the pr person the
<v Speaker 3>publist publicists on this campaign is, and I stock him
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. Maybe, you know, i'd get an interview
<v Speaker 3>with Johnny Bench and I found the person and just
<v Speaker 3>kind of pitched him on a Friday and her back
<v Speaker 3>on a Monday, and they said, yeah, you know, we'll
<v Speaker 3>get you ten minutes or fifteen minutes or so with
<v Speaker 3>Johnny Bench on the phone. And you know, i'd be
<v Speaker 3>great if you mentioned the sponsor. You don't have to
<v Speaker 3>talk about how great Kingsford charcoal is. But he'll probably
<v Speaker 3>all want to talk to you about barbecue because he's
<v Speaker 3>that He's that guy. So that's kind of the blueprint
<v Speaker 3>for business sports business, and you know, Tom Brady started
<v Speaker 3>its brand, so it's kind of same, kind of a reverse.
<v Speaker 3>I got an email probably even like December. You know
<v Speaker 3>a lot of a lot of times it's like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>here's a press release. We know you're going to want
<v Speaker 3>to write about this, Go write an article. And it's
<v Speaker 3>kind of every once while I'm a wise guy and
<v Speaker 3>I will respond and be like, yeah, if you get
<v Speaker 3>me Tom Brady on the phone for ten minutes, I'll
<v Speaker 3>be glad to write an article about this. And a
<v Speaker 3>lot of times the response, you know, I never hear anything.
<v Speaker 3>I just assumed I wouldn't. Then like four days later,
<v Speaker 3>publicist comes back and he's like, yeah, we can get
<v Speaker 3>you ten minutes on like audio only zoom or the
<v Speaker 3>phone with Tom Brady, and I was like, you know,
<v Speaker 3>holy crap.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I got to ask the question, were you
<v Speaker 1>really wearing Philadelphia Eagles?
<v Speaker 3>No? Well, the thing is like they put the audio only.
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't allowed to see him, you know. I mean
<v Speaker 3>maybe it's because he's way more famous than you know,
<v Speaker 3>he's too famous for me to see what he looks
<v Speaker 3>like coming you know, weren' a sweatshirt on a but
<v Speaker 3>that's what they did to me. So I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>can you see me? And he's like no, but I
<v Speaker 3>can hear you. And it's like, oh, well, it's too
<v Speaker 3>bad because I got you know, my my Nick Foles
<v Speaker 3>jersey on and my in and he laughed or pretended
<v Speaker 3>to laugh and was, you know, gracious about it. And
<v Speaker 3>he's like, why are you doing this to me? Man?
<v Speaker 3>And so I did say, like, don't hang up. I
<v Speaker 3>think I'm an Eagles fan for Philadelphia, but you know,
<v Speaker 3>his brand is all about apparel, So of course, like
<v Speaker 3>either he's trying to be a designer or what I
<v Speaker 3>figure was I'm gonna ask hibout this, like, oh, you're
<v Speaker 3>starting this brand with you hire a designer, you got
<v Speaker 3>business people behind you, Like, I'm assuming you have to
<v Speaker 3>be coachable like you were when you started Bill Belichick.
<v Speaker 3>Tell me about is that true or whatever? And he
<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, you know, I have like visions for
<v Speaker 3>my brand. And obviously he has a style that you know,
<v Speaker 3>he's I don't know, he's probably made a hundred million
<v Speaker 3>dollars plus and he can afford whatever pairs of shoes
<v Speaker 3>he wants or whatever. But he wanted to kind of
<v Speaker 3>do two things which I thought was cool. He wanted
<v Speaker 3>like his brand is like like I'm Onrea kind of
<v Speaker 3>a plain gap shirt right now, but you know his
<v Speaker 3>shirts and I guess his apparel is like kind of
<v Speaker 3>plane and earth tones. And the other really cool part
<v Speaker 3>is like instead of getting Gronk to pitch his stuff,
<v Speaker 3>he's got most If you look at the website for
<v Speaker 3>Brady Man, it's mostly college athletes. It might be all
<v Speaker 3>college athletes. A lot of are from the university mission
<v Speaker 3>of course, but it's like the star quarterback whose name
<v Speaker 3>I forget, a tennis player, a track athlete, there's like
<v Speaker 3>a swimmer like he could he could obviously go out
<v Speaker 3>and get I don't know Kevin Durant to like pitch
<v Speaker 3>his stuff, but he picked college guys and men and
<v Speaker 3>women and just kind of people that he wanted to
<v Speaker 3>kind of bring it back down to earth. And I
<v Speaker 3>thought that was cool, and that was sort of the
<v Speaker 3>approaches his brand. And everybody's different, Like so I get
<v Speaker 3>to talk to all these great athletes about what are
<v Speaker 3>you doing? And you know, I talked to Lindsay Vonn
<v Speaker 3>a couple of times, and you know her, she's she's
<v Speaker 3>got a bunch of different businesses and her products tend
<v Speaker 3>to be very high end ski related stuff like a
<v Speaker 3>little bit of lux but also high performance. And then
<v Speaker 3>I just talked to Derek Jeter and I've talked to
<v Speaker 3>GSP about their stuff, and there's stuff is kind of
<v Speaker 3>more bare bones like Brady stuff. So everybody's doing something different.
<v Speaker 3>It's great to kind of people talk to me. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>I get to talk about the sports too. I never
<v Speaker 3>do with Jim Gray and be like, well told me
<v Speaker 3>about the time you missed the past and Barister team
<v Speaker 3>because I'm not that kind of person, but I just
<v Speaker 3>want to talk to them about the nuts and bolts,
<v Speaker 3>So like, hey, what else do you do? And I
<v Speaker 3>know that you are investing in real estate or you
<v Speaker 3>got this fashion brand, and you know, I think it
<v Speaker 3>disarms them because I mean, we journalists can you know,
<v Speaker 3>we got a bad reputation in general, just do what
<v Speaker 3>we do. You can be that person that nois the
<v Speaker 3>heck out of somebody. But I think if you talk
<v Speaker 3>to people like people talk about what they're doing, you know,
<v Speaker 3>you get a good response and you get some gifts
<v Speaker 3>in the conversation that make for good writing and you
<v Speaker 3>know everything else.
<v Speaker 1>So kind of a touch base on the book. You
<v Speaker 1>know that your main character starts off kind of Wall
<v Speaker 1>Street type of the first who ends up leaving that
<v Speaker 1>and going to own a record store that she's inherited.
<v Speaker 1>What inspired you to start with this process? That the
<v Speaker 1>was that the seed or was it something else and
<v Speaker 1>that came along later?
<v Speaker 3>I think the only seed was originally I just had
<v Speaker 3>this idea about five years ago that I think I
<v Speaker 3>was listening to my Spotify playlist of the nineties playlist
<v Speaker 3>and I just had a recurring thought there was like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>it'll be cool to go back to the nineties, like
<v Speaker 3>if you could time travel to see the show, you know,
<v Speaker 3>like talk about our wishless concerts or sporting events that
<v Speaker 3>I'd love to go back and see that a second time.
<v Speaker 3>And I just as a writer, some of us writers
<v Speaker 3>do this thing where we come up with We come
<v Speaker 3>up with great ideas all the time, sometimes in the
<v Speaker 3>middle of the night. We had a couple of beersier
<v Speaker 3>at the bar and you have a bar napkin. It's
<v Speaker 3>sort of the stereotypical thing like, oh, I write the
<v Speaker 3>you know, the idea that founded Microsoft on a bar
<v Speaker 3>napkin like that, that's the story. But you got to
<v Speaker 3>test yourself and realize if you come with a great idea,
<v Speaker 3>like do you care about it in two weeks? And
<v Speaker 3>I kind of tested myself out that that way, and
<v Speaker 3>just I still cared about I thought, you know, I
<v Speaker 3>don't know how to write a book, but I want
<v Speaker 3>to try the plot. I had the plot and probably
<v Speaker 3>an idea some characters, and then like literally what Darby,
<v Speaker 3>the main character in my days in the nineties comes
<v Speaker 3>is a little bit some of it from my experience
<v Speaker 3>from bounce around different jobs and then ending up really
<v Speaker 3>doing what I want to do or what I was
<v Speaker 3>supposed to do no longer in sales. I don't work
<v Speaker 3>for a corporation anymore. So some of that informs the character.
<v Speaker 3>But I really had to, like I mean, it's that
<v Speaker 3>the end product of the books is completely different from
<v Speaker 3>the first draft. Like I didn't know what I was
<v Speaker 3>doing when I first started writing it. I had to
<v Speaker 3>tweaked some things how to make more readable and shorten
<v Speaker 3>it a lot, and then I hired an editor who
<v Speaker 3>told me to change it from first person to third person,
<v Speaker 3>and you know, a lot of those things just kind
<v Speaker 3>of evolved. So when you are kind of figuring out
<v Speaker 3>what the heck you're supposed to do and you want
<v Speaker 3>to put this theme in you create some dialogue, You're like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>this idea would be cool, But what if I did
<v Speaker 3>this and you make discoveries? So that was really like
<v Speaker 3>I could go through all of it, but that I
<v Speaker 3>just kind of made a lot of discoveries and kind
<v Speaker 3>of it took place in Chicago, so I know Chicago
<v Speaker 3>and know the music scene, know this seeming just kind
<v Speaker 3>of played with a lot and made it work.
<v Speaker 1>So there are tons of nineties references throughout, mostly music.
<v Speaker 1>You got a few sports touch on sports, just a
<v Speaker 1>bit here and there. I mean, you get what you
<v Speaker 1>would expect. You get some Nirvana references, some Stone Table Pilots. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>which and we just we just got finished covering Stone
<v Speaker 1>Tiple Pilot's Core versus Alison Chain's Dirt as to which
<v Speaker 1>to which of those two albums was the best. And
<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of neat knowing that both of those
<v Speaker 1>guys not too terribly long after ninety six were gone.
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, the idea that you could go
<v Speaker 1>back and listen to Alison Chain's play with Lane Staley singing,
<v Speaker 1>or with you know, stp with Scott Wiland singing, that's
<v Speaker 1>an intriguing thought. I would want to go do that.
<v Speaker 1>Your character's got a band that she when she begins
<v Speaker 1>her journey, she wants to go check them out to
<v Speaker 1>kind of see why they never became with what she
<v Speaker 1>thought they should be called Dreaded Letters. Yeah, so I
<v Speaker 1>know that's not a real band, but did you is
<v Speaker 1>there a band that you can think of from that
<v Speaker 1>time period where you were, like, man, I thought these
<v Speaker 1>guys were going to be huge and then kind of
<v Speaker 1>nothing happened.
<v Speaker 3>Well actually, so it's like correction. Darby is like when
<v Speaker 3>she she she you see her in the beginning, she
<v Speaker 3>kind of like in the first chapter, she's in this
<v Speaker 3>record store this year inherited from her uncle Martin. Her
<v Speaker 3>life in New York fell apart, you know, like her
<v Speaker 3>she made a couple of bad crypto trades and her
<v Speaker 3>broke up with her fiance. So now she's running this
<v Speaker 3>record store, kind of getting a taste of like being
<v Speaker 3>back in Chicago. And actually Dreaded Letters is a band
<v Speaker 3>that you know, she saw him once when they were
<v Speaker 3>nobody's and now they're one of the biggest bands of
<v Speaker 3>all time, So I kind of, I mean stylistically, I
<v Speaker 3>just thought of, like, so one of the bands that
<v Speaker 3>maybe is close to them is Slater Kenny. Slater Kenny's
<v Speaker 3>not super famous or but like they're just a riot
<v Speaker 3>fester in Chicago, and I'm glad that they can open
<v Speaker 3>up a show. You sell tickets in the ticket they're
<v Speaker 3>gone in twenty minutes. And it could be because Carrie
<v Speaker 3>was on Portlandia for all those years and a lot
<v Speaker 3>of people know one of the members of the band
<v Speaker 3>from that. But I kind of combined that with like
<v Speaker 3>I think about I like, I have a sort of
<v Speaker 3>an interest in rock trios, like the Jimmy Hendrick experience
<v Speaker 3>and the Police, you know, kind of like the in
<v Speaker 3>the Holy Triumphant Rush. I'm not a huge Rush fan,
<v Speaker 3>but there's this dynamic that trios have that I think
<v Speaker 3>a lot of other bands don't have, and it just
<v Speaker 3>other than Green Day, there weren't and maybe the presence
<v Speaker 3>there weren't really too many there were. Strangely, there are
<v Speaker 3>a lot more four and five person bands and maybe
<v Speaker 3>doesn't get down to that, but yeah, I just kind
<v Speaker 3>of wanted to eventually I created the band. I think
<v Speaker 3>I had hired an editor to kind of work with
<v Speaker 3>me on some things, and at first she kind of
<v Speaker 3>pushed like, well, she's gone back in time and she's
<v Speaker 3>gonna like it's the real reason that she wants to
<v Speaker 3>go discover like you know A does she played the
<v Speaker 3>lottery and when the Jackpotter does, she discovered the band,
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I wanted to have some of that in there,
<v Speaker 3>but not really have it be about the band. That
<v Speaker 3>Darby's journey is really personal, so that when it's kind
<v Speaker 3>of staple to that when she goes back into the
<v Speaker 3>mid nineties, like, yeah, she's not trying to prevent nine
<v Speaker 3>to eleven from happening, or she's not feeling like she
<v Speaker 3>goes needs to go back further to kill Hitler or anything.
<v Speaker 3>That's what we see a lot in time travel fiction
<v Speaker 3>and movies, and that there's this big giant thing that
<v Speaker 3>they have to solve or prevent. And I guess I
<v Speaker 3>wanted to take it a different way, like I just
<v Speaker 3>wanted to be like, maybe it's a generational thing. Like
<v Speaker 3>I think of movies like that we love from the nineties,
<v Speaker 3>like Days and Confused and pulp fiction where you just
<v Speaker 3>hang out for the hangout for a day with the characters.
<v Speaker 3>Both those movies take place over the span of twenty
<v Speaker 3>four hours, and my book does not what I wanted
<v Speaker 3>to say. I knew that one of the things I want
<v Speaker 3>to do was the same dynamic, like there's these characters,
<v Speaker 3>they're really cool, they're doing cool stuff, and you just
<v Speaker 3>want to hang out with them. And I thought, you know,
<v Speaker 3>I want to see if I could pull this off
<v Speaker 3>in writing a book that you feel like you're tagging along.
<v Speaker 3>You guys can tell me whether it worked or not,
<v Speaker 3>you know, I think that that was something that I
<v Speaker 3>hadn't seen in books before, and I wanted to.
<v Speaker 1>Just test it out.
<v Speaker 3>So so yeah, there's kind of like jEdit LETTERDS is
<v Speaker 3>the band that she goes back to see. She kind
<v Speaker 3>of thinks it's all about that, but it's not really
<v Speaker 3>about that. That's it's an important like part of her
<v Speaker 3>being a music fan, but there's a lot more her
<v Speaker 3>life and you know what she's looking for than that.
<v Speaker 1>We talk about those things from our past, but we
<v Speaker 1>do it. We do it because we kind of enjoy
<v Speaker 1>the idea of living back in that time. I'm going
<v Speaker 1>to quote your own book to you. Forgive me for
<v Speaker 1>doing this, but you say, when she's kind of reached
<v Speaker 1>what we think might be the end of her journey,
<v Speaker 1>she had started off with this list, you know, like
<v Speaker 1>The Dreaded Letters was on the list, Lena was on
<v Speaker 1>the list. You know that she's got these objectives, and
<v Speaker 1>then once she's there, that's not what happens, Like that's
<v Speaker 1>my expectation. And then, like you said, you decided to
<v Speaker 1>let her sit in a space and live with her
<v Speaker 1>in that space. And so it says the only thing
<v Speaker 1>that mattered for Darby was talking about more meaningless, stupid
<v Speaker 1>things with her best friend again, and that meant everything,
<v Speaker 1>and that kind of hit me. I was just like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>so this is really what it's all about. It's like
<v Speaker 1>what we do We talk about stupid, meaningless you know,
<v Speaker 1>movies that we loved and music that we loved. But
<v Speaker 1>it's because it takes us back. And with a lot
<v Speaker 1>of our listeners, they've got kids who are you know,
<v Speaker 1>like a spacey kid who's maybe just learning about this stuff,
<v Speaker 1>but they get to live in that experience with them.
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you in nineteen ninety six, I went to
<v Speaker 1>Europe and I flew into Amsterdam and the whole coffee
<v Speaker 1>shop story that I've got to I've got too. So
<v Speaker 1>when you got to that part of the book, I
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh wow, this is I mean, this has
<v Speaker 1>hit me on all kinds of all kinds of levels.
<v Speaker 1>But it's it is really that what we probably loved
<v Speaker 1>about that time period was not necessarily the pop culture
<v Speaker 1>stuff that we talked about. It was experiencing that with
<v Speaker 1>our best friends and going through the friends.
<v Speaker 3>Are you guys both Oklahoma Sooners fans like diehards or what? Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I'm a diet I mean, they could suck for a
<v Speaker 3>decade and you're still going to go to the games.
<v Speaker 3>You're still going to like if you have kids, you're
<v Speaker 3>gonna kind of bring them along and have them feel
<v Speaker 3>the experience, and it doesn't really have to do with
<v Speaker 3>who's coaching or who's who's playing. Like, you know, historically
<v Speaker 3>the Cubs suck and we've had some good stints here.
<v Speaker 3>But you know, my kid grew up knowing that he
<v Speaker 3>dislikes the White Sox and he likes the Cubs, even
<v Speaker 3>if he doesn't know, you know, who's starting tonight on
<v Speaker 3>the mountain. So I think, you know, music in sports
<v Speaker 3>and all those things, like we all kind of latch
<v Speaker 3>on the things that we love, and some of it
<v Speaker 3>is about what goes on in the you know, whether
<v Speaker 3>it's following a sports team or following a band or
<v Speaker 3>a scene. But a lot of it's just the experience.
<v Speaker 3>And you know, you know Amsterdam was I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>I think that was like we were the first generation
<v Speaker 3>that did that. Like we got five hundred bucks in
<v Speaker 3>our pocket, We got a little time, like we got
<v Speaker 3>these we have a job, but we know our job
<v Speaker 3>is not going to be your career. So I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>why not plan Sometimes you just go walk around Europe
<v Speaker 3>and see something different and end up on the other
<v Speaker 3>side of the ocean. Your your culture shocked when there's
<v Speaker 3>not skyscrapers everywhere, and people are speaking a different language
<v Speaker 3>and it's different than how you expected, and there's no
<v Speaker 3>strip malls, and it's just like, you know, I try
<v Speaker 3>to tell my kid, my kids sixteen, I try to
<v Speaker 3>tell him about that. He's been to Europe a couple
<v Speaker 3>of times, just you know, with us, and I think
<v Speaker 3>he appreciates other culture. But I don't know if he
<v Speaker 3>gets that culture shock that we got. Like I remember,
<v Speaker 3>like as a kid, going to the inner city as
<v Speaker 3>we called it, you know, from the sub Phillies Philly
<v Speaker 3>suburbs to the city and just being like shock that
<v Speaker 3>like wow, you know, smells different, looks different. The street
<v Speaker 3>food that they have street food here that I can't
<v Speaker 3>get in my little suburb. Yeah, I just you know,
<v Speaker 3>maybe I'm just a generational thing, just kind of fascinated
<v Speaker 3>with like little experiences, and yeah, it sounds like something
<v Speaker 3>that came through. So I'm glad. I'm glad you guys
<v Speaker 3>enjoyed or picked up on some of that.
<v Speaker 1>So I meant to. I meant to actually asked this
<v Speaker 1>when we started. So nineteen ninety six, which is when
<v Speaker 1>or when Garby goes back to time? That's what. Oh,
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I noticed that her first concert was
<v Speaker 1>Huey Lewis. Yeah, who of course had the song back
<v Speaker 1>in time. I don't know if that was purpose or not,
<v Speaker 1>but good job. And and so in nineteen ninety six,
<v Speaker 1>I was actually playing in a band. I had started
<v Speaker 1>playing shows at you know, bars and stuff like that,
<v Speaker 1>and then went to Europe. What were you doing in
<v Speaker 1>ninety six? I got married in ninety six. Oh wow, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you're so old, but you know you got married.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm married, Yes to my wife Kelly.
<v Speaker 3>Did you know very well?
<v Speaker 1>My gosh.
<v Speaker 2>But so we pop out in September of ninety six,
<v Speaker 2>I think right around there.
<v Speaker 1>I got married in.
<v Speaker 2>August ninety six. So I was telling d I can't
<v Speaker 2>remember five things that happened in twenty sixteen, but when
<v Speaker 2>you drop me off in ninety.
<v Speaker 3>Six, okay, it's very vivid.
<v Speaker 2>In my imagination and what's going on in the world.
<v Speaker 2>So I had a great time revisiting ninety six. And
<v Speaker 2>I'll just touch on something you said earlier, the person
<v Speaker 2>that I want to hang out with the most is
<v Speaker 2>Darby one.
<v Speaker 3>But Rachel, oh yeah, well you triw a picture that
<v Speaker 3>she's she looks like a Jessica Chastain in a leather
<v Speaker 3>jacket maybe, but yeah, yeah, Like that was another like
<v Speaker 3>a couple of characters like her in space. He actually
<v Speaker 3>kind of popped up later when I'm thinking, like I've
<v Speaker 3>gotta my editor that I kind of said, you gotta,
<v Speaker 3>you gotta set some limits and put some guardrails up here,
<v Speaker 3>like well, the first thing was if she could just
<v Speaker 3>come and go as she wants back in time, like
<v Speaker 3>that's not gonna work, Like you need to have a timer,
<v Speaker 3>or like you think about movies where there's a heist
<v Speaker 3>or like a bomb's gonna blow up, like the hero
<v Speaker 3>doesn't just think, oh, well, I got, you know, a
<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks to disview as his bomb, because otherwise
<v Speaker 3>that movie wouldn't work. So we did that and I
<v Speaker 3>changed that. But I also, you know a lot of
<v Speaker 3>obviously you could tell a lot of this is about
<v Speaker 3>grunge and Indian alternative music, and you know, I suppose
<v Speaker 3>if you love Celine Dion or Phil Collins nineteen nineties movies.
<v Speaker 3>You know, hits, you're probably gonna be angry our characters
<v Speaker 3>and narrator rip on that stuff, and even depeche Mode
<v Speaker 3>a little bit that there's a little something in there
<v Speaker 3>for everybody. And I wanted Darby's kind of music snobbishness,
<v Speaker 3>which I have a little bit of that going on.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, maybe you guys too. I wanted that to
<v Speaker 3>be tested that she likes this girl named Rachel who's
<v Speaker 3>a metal head, and like, how could you like hair
<v Speaker 3>metal in the mid nineties? What's what's she does? Like
<v Speaker 3>some cool stuff like Motorhead and tool and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 3>But you know that that kind of pushes her buttons
<v Speaker 3>a little bit because I remember when I was in
<v Speaker 3>you know, twelfth grade or freshman year in college, like
<v Speaker 3>I could have liked this girl, but if she was
<v Speaker 3>into like radio pop, I just would have had no
<v Speaker 3>interest because I can't really communicate. And you realize those
<v Speaker 3>things don't matter when you grow up. But maybe that
<v Speaker 3>was a nineties thing that you know, you know, oh,
<v Speaker 3>you like you like country, Well, I'm into I'm into
<v Speaker 3>the Ramones. We can't we can't hang out like that
<v Speaker 3>was actually, you know, in the late eighties early nineties
<v Speaker 3>when I was in you know, my twenties, and I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, that's something a theme I wanted to play with.
<v Speaker 3>That was fun to find a character who is like
<v Speaker 3>I basically made her game to play that.
<v Speaker 1>So I will say this you so you've got listeners.
<v Speaker 1>Check out the playlist on Spotify. He's got a playlist
<v Speaker 1>that's called ninety Days in the Nineties as well that
<v Speaker 1>is full, chocked full of nineties music that is in
<v Speaker 1>the underground what I would expect from the book, but
<v Speaker 1>then thrown in the middle of it, I'm I see
<v Speaker 1>TLC and I'm pretty and I'm like, what what? How
<v Speaker 1>did how did this radio pop jam fall it? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's mixed. So tell me about what were you What
<v Speaker 1>were you listening to in ninety six yourself?
<v Speaker 3>So ninety six, I was twenty four, so this was
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'll throw some other contacts context and this
<v Speaker 3>is you know, I remember that. So I'll just say,
<v Speaker 3>like in the summer, I want to say, July August
<v Speaker 3>ninety six, I come home my roommates like we got
<v Speaker 3>Tennis Robman today. I'm like, yeah, I know, I heard
<v Speaker 3>of the radio, Like this is the second run of
<v Speaker 3>the Bulls. Like literally, we actually would go to the
<v Speaker 3>bar twice a week. Bar is silent while the game's on,
<v Speaker 3>bowls down fifteen with two minutes to go, and we
<v Speaker 3>know they're going to win. But I also had to
<v Speaker 3>slip at some concerts too, like I would go to
<v Speaker 3>Loungejacks when I could afford a fifteen dollars ticket to
<v Speaker 3>see bands, Like a lot of it was like testing
<v Speaker 3>the waters, Like I saw bands that I don't I'm
<v Speaker 3>not super into now, like Chavez and Pavement and Elastica,
<v Speaker 3>But like I kind of stuck with the ones that
<v Speaker 3>I'm a huge Anglo file. So if you see the
<v Speaker 3>other part of my room, you would see a Stone
<v Speaker 3>Roses poster. I've got some like I love the Verb
<v Speaker 3>and Oasis, and I like old British music too, like
<v Speaker 3>The Who. So I think I was probably still stuck
<v Speaker 3>in that. I probably of the grunge set. Allison Changes
<v Speaker 3>my favorite, just because I think Lane Stale is just
<v Speaker 3>such an amazing underrated singer. But the cool part about
<v Speaker 3>the nineteen nineties and ninety six was, like, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it was so much different than nineteen eighty eight, Like
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty eight, you turn the radio and to
<v Speaker 3>be like Debbie Gibson and you know, just like pop
<v Speaker 3>and Boys the Man, and occasionally if you got to
<v Speaker 3>the right radio station, you might hear Pixie Song, you
<v Speaker 3>might hear The Cure. And I was like, oh, oh,
<v Speaker 3>this is like the music I like. In nineteen ninety six.
<v Speaker 3>It was all you know, Oasis, Garbage, the Pixies, the Breeders,
<v Speaker 3>Like there was never music that didn't appeal to me,
<v Speaker 3>or that was uncreative or people in the band didn't
<v Speaker 3>play the instruments. So there was so much there that
<v Speaker 3>I felt like I was it was like a fire hose.
<v Speaker 3>I was trying to consume and just be you know,
<v Speaker 3>conscious of like, wow, it was another great song by
<v Speaker 3>a band I never heard of that, you know, maybe
<v Speaker 3>puts out two or three. So yeah, I mean pretty
<v Speaker 3>much like the English music that I was always into.
<v Speaker 3>I love Ned's Atomic Dust bind They kind of didn't
<v Speaker 3>really do much after ninety four, but I saw them
<v Speaker 3>when I first came to Chicago, and then like I
<v Speaker 3>was just almost you know, it was it was a
<v Speaker 3>great time to be open minded and consume different types
<v Speaker 3>of music that I wasn't a diehard super fan of
<v Speaker 3>only a genre like I have my friends who were
<v Speaker 3>all into grunge, and then my friends who were into
<v Speaker 3>New Order and kind of alternative dance music. I wasn't that.
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of like, give me it a little
<v Speaker 3>bit of everything, because I'm you know, dub reggae or
<v Speaker 3>non grunge, you know, metal metal influenced rock. I was
<v Speaker 3>into all of it. So I must have a lot
<v Speaker 3>more bandwidth than I have now because I feel like
<v Speaker 3>my brain shrinking in my fifties here. But the music
<v Speaker 3>kind of is like a take, like taking vitamins every
<v Speaker 3>day kind of keeps your brain working, keeps you alive.
<v Speaker 3>So there's a long answer right there. But there was
<v Speaker 3>so much to enjoy that I'm not sure that I
<v Speaker 3>could pinpoint like one band or one sub genre.
<v Speaker 1>Really, so we're talking to books, we might as well
<v Speaker 1>talk books too. You mentioned Jimmingway, you mentioned T. S
<v Speaker 1>Elliott in there. Who's who's your inspiration or who do
<v Speaker 1>you want to emulate when you're writing at this point
<v Speaker 1>of the authors that you've read.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a couple obsolutely. I mean people talk about
<v Speaker 3>Nick Hornby when they hear about Molley book is about
<v Speaker 3>and I know Hyphadeli was a great book. You know,
<v Speaker 3>the movie was shot here in Chicago. It takes place Chicago,
<v Speaker 3>even though the book, the story of the book was
<v Speaker 3>in London. And as you probably know, Hulu did a
<v Speaker 3>series with Zoe Kravitz where it takes place in Brooklyn,
<v Speaker 3>appropriately for the two thousands. So Nick Hornby's books are great.
<v Speaker 3>I love Fever Pitch for I'm a huge English football
<v Speaker 3>fan soccer fan, but I love like a couple things
<v Speaker 3>like George Plimpton. Yeah, he's like obviously an upper class
<v Speaker 3>person who tried to I think his struggle was to
<v Speaker 3>associate with the common man, so to speak. Put out
<v Speaker 3>a book called Paper Lion, where he kind of just
<v Speaker 3>did what Eli Manning just did, like he showed up
<v Speaker 3>to Detroit Lyons. I guess training camp at night sixty
<v Speaker 3>eight is like a third string quarterback, and he was.
<v Speaker 3>I think up to that point they had let him
<v Speaker 3>play it in a preseason game and he was the
<v Speaker 3>only quarterback to successively lose yardage in every play that
<v Speaker 3>he played. I think that book's hard to fight. I
<v Speaker 3>think it's hard to find out. I don't think it's
<v Speaker 3>out of Prince called Paper Lion He's got a book
<v Speaker 3>called The X Factor where he talks he hangs out
<v Speaker 3>with the Bush family in Texas, and they're like the
<v Speaker 3>Bush Family, like George W. And George Sr. And Neil
<v Speaker 3>like and the and the daughters, Like they play horseshoes
<v Speaker 3>when they're a vacase and they're super competitive about it,
<v Speaker 3>like it's a bragging, right thing. So those two writers
<v Speaker 3>are the main thing. But you know, I grew up
<v Speaker 3>loving I like to read sports articles in nonsports publications
<v Speaker 3>like The New York Times. Saturday always had great quirky articles.
<v Speaker 3>My favorite broadcaster of all time was Dick Shapp because
<v Speaker 3>he's like conversational like normal people are. So there's a
<v Speaker 3>lot of influences that way. I'm not like, you know,
<v Speaker 3>eighteen year old Stephen King, where I could say that
<v Speaker 3>I read eight thousand books growing up and that's why
<v Speaker 3>I'm a writer, like I actually probably didn't, probably haven't
<v Speaker 3>read as much as I would like to think that
<v Speaker 3>I could have. But yeah, those writers, and then also
<v Speaker 3>Michael Schaibon I kind of first got took turned onto
<v Speaker 3>his movies. I think the movie called The Wonder Boys.
<v Speaker 3>It's hilarious, So I went and read his books after that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>hornby Michael Sabon George Plimpton. I think because those people
<v Speaker 3>do great dialogue, they talk about nuts and bolts, things
<v Speaker 3>like sports and music, and they keep a conversational I
<v Speaker 3>think all that has kind of driven me to right
<v Speaker 3>the way right, and I hope i'm you know, in
<v Speaker 3>the ballpark, but who knows.
<v Speaker 1>I remember George Plumpton as the guy who would introduce
<v Speaker 1>the cartoons on the Disney Channel. Yeah, and they were
<v Speaker 1>having the masterpiece theater style of cartoons. Later did I
<v Speaker 1>find out? Because he did it with like several different
<v Speaker 1>like he did open net and like he would just
<v Speaker 1>do that. He just this every man, not particularly as
<v Speaker 1>the athletic guy, that would get on with these sports teams.
<v Speaker 1>And I just thought that was the coolest idea I've
<v Speaker 1>ever heard.
<v Speaker 2>Tim Carver did a show on HBO a long time
<v Speaker 2>ago that talked about the George Plumpton story. I remember
<v Speaker 2>as a kid watching that, just fascinated that there's this
<v Speaker 2>writer willing to play football just to see what it
<v Speaker 2>was like.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would have thought that, I like, because he's
<v Speaker 3>kind of like the guy. I would have thought that
<v Speaker 3>he would be a fearful of getting injured. But I
<v Speaker 3>think in that time, like maybe in the sixteen seventies,
<v Speaker 3>Like again, I haven't read all their books, but like
<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite movies from the eighties is The
<v Speaker 3>Right Stuff, and Tom Wolfe wrote that I think he
<v Speaker 3>did as a series for Rolling Stone or something, but
<v Speaker 3>he basically like, I want to interview these guys to
<v Speaker 3>find out why they're willing to put themselves in danger
<v Speaker 3>for this dubious thing, which now we look at astronauts
<v Speaker 3>and we think it's like got to be the best job.
<v Speaker 3>But in the sixties, when they didn't know whether the
<v Speaker 3>rocket was going to blow up, like that was kind
<v Speaker 3>of a risky thing. So I think it created a
<v Speaker 3>whole new they call it new journalism, where a bunch
<v Speaker 3>of authors would write, you know, mostly real life stories
<v Speaker 3>but kind of add a little style to it, and
<v Speaker 3>you know, take some liberties with the way that people,
<v Speaker 3>real people were depicted to characters in terms of the
<v Speaker 3>bravado or the way that they cast themselves. And I
<v Speaker 3>think that that's we don't even think about that today.
<v Speaker 3>We know that like maybe you know, Shack on the
<v Speaker 3>TV commercials is different than Shaq in the locker room
<v Speaker 3>and shack hanging out with his kids, and we're okay
<v Speaker 3>with those different depictions of a person that we consider
<v Speaker 3>like one person. But yeah, I think, you know, those
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the writers from the the latter couple
<v Speaker 3>decades of the twentieth century of influence me as a
<v Speaker 3>writer and just sort of the way we think.
<v Speaker 1>So Jason pose his question as we were going through
<v Speaker 1>the book. He was like, you know, what, what sporting
<v Speaker 1>events would you go back to? What concerts would you
<v Speaker 1>go back to? And I'm not I'm not as big
<v Speaker 1>of a sports guy, but concert wise have already kind
<v Speaker 1>of touched on it.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see the guys who we've lost before
<v Speaker 1>we lost him, when they were kind of their peak,
<v Speaker 1>and I would love to do it in like small venue.
<v Speaker 1>I remember that I would hear that Pearl Jam would
<v Speaker 1>show up at some you know, small club and just unannounced,
<v Speaker 1>just come on stage and start playing. And if I
<v Speaker 1>could be a part of, you know, part of the
<v Speaker 1>audience for one of those shows, I would definitely do that.
<v Speaker 1>But a small venue on some stuff I would I
<v Speaker 1>would honestly have loved to see and Andrew would play.
<v Speaker 1>I'd be interested to see because he was like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>he treated the bars they were playing in like an arena.
<v Speaker 1>So I got to think that would be fun. What
<v Speaker 1>do you what do you got, Jason? What are you thinking?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I'm gonna do my top five and then
<v Speaker 2>Andy will give you a chance to do your top
<v Speaker 2>five musical and sports related, you know, time travel. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>all right, So for me, I'm going wide right, I'm
<v Speaker 2>not keeping it just to Chicago. Yeah, yeah, the Beatles
<v Speaker 2>and Shay Stadium for me. Number one Live Aid in
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty five, you two doing the Downtown La concert
<v Speaker 2>where they do where the streets have no name with
<v Speaker 2>that just kind of impromptu concert in the streets. I
<v Speaker 2>think that'd be really cool. To go to the Moscow
<v Speaker 2>Peace Festival in nineteen eighty nine. I'm a big hair
<v Speaker 2>metal guy, man, I'm sorry, I think that'd be a
<v Speaker 2>lot of fun. And then finally, you know, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>Allison Chains with Blaine Staley would be incredible. Seeing Prince
<v Speaker 2>or Michael Jackson, anything like that would be awesome.
<v Speaker 3>But I saw that.
<v Speaker 2>Metallica played a concert in Antarctica in twenty thirteen. Really yes,
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, dude, that would be the bomb.
<v Speaker 3>Do they play for like the researchers down there or
<v Speaker 3>what it's like two hundred people? Yeah? Wow?
<v Speaker 2>So okay, Andy, we're putting you on the spot man
<v Speaker 2>five dream Time Travel concerts that you would attend, all right.
<v Speaker 3>So I grew up in the Philadelphia area. I remember
<v Speaker 3>I was thirteen when Live A came on. At the time,
<v Speaker 3>I was really the Judas Priest and there's there's no
<v Speaker 3>way that so I go to concerts with my kid.
<v Speaker 3>Now we're going to Dinast for Junior next Friday, and
<v Speaker 3>he's sixteen. There's no way my parents would have driven
<v Speaker 3>downtown for me to see Judas Priests at Live A,
<v Speaker 3>even if the dickets were cheap. So I'm gonna say
<v Speaker 3>uh because I think the stage of the concert I
<v Speaker 3>remember this from TV was like Joan Baiez sings with
<v Speaker 3>Dale guitar, Billy Ocean comes on, and then at noon
<v Speaker 3>it's Judas Priest. I'm like, that doesn't go together, but
<v Speaker 3>that's pretty awo wow. I feel like Rob Halford, you know,
<v Speaker 3>he sometimes will come out with a motorcycle on stage.
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember if he did that. I feel like
<v Speaker 3>he brought it out for like one song. It was like,
<v Speaker 3>so that'd be number one. I'm not a fan of
<v Speaker 3>anything having to do with Russia special see Putin, So
<v Speaker 3>I will say, I'm gonna go the Prodigy playing Red
<v Speaker 3>Square and you know, leaving by flipping the bird like
<v Speaker 3>I think they rocked Red Square and then they just
<v Speaker 3>went to go fly back to England to see a
<v Speaker 3>west Ham game the next day. Number three, so I
<v Speaker 3>think it was New Year's Day ninety six. Don't quote
<v Speaker 3>me on this, I'd have to look it up, but
<v Speaker 3>the House of Blues in Chicago opened up. I think
<v Speaker 3>that was the day. But the first act was James Brown.
<v Speaker 3>So and I heard like basically like you're not going
<v Speaker 3>to get tickets if you're trying to get tickets, like
<v Speaker 3>if you're you know, your CEO or your you know,
<v Speaker 3>you're Billy Corgan or your Eddie Vedder coming in for
<v Speaker 3>the weekend, yeah you might get in. But it was
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'd love to see that House of Blues
<v Speaker 3>is a great acoustics, they're all designed that way. And
<v Speaker 3>to see James Brown while he's alive, you know, in
<v Speaker 3>ninety six doing James Brown would that I'd have to
<v Speaker 3>put that. So last two I think the last show
<v Speaker 3>that that before Loungejacks closed, And I mentioned Lounge Jacks
<v Speaker 3>is one of the venues. It might be the first
<v Speaker 3>venue that Darby goes to in ninety days. In the nineties,
<v Speaker 3>it was a great little club. If you watch high Fidelli,
<v Speaker 3>they actually go to see Rita salad Lounge Jacks. But
<v Speaker 3>I remember that the Pumpkins played their very the very
<v Speaker 3>last show before the venue shut its doors. So I'm
<v Speaker 3>gonna say that for number four. And you know, Smashing
<v Speaker 3>Pumps was just here a couple of days ago. They
<v Speaker 3>played Metro and like all my radio friends went, so
<v Speaker 3>I'm a little jealous about that. So I guess that's
<v Speaker 3>number four. And uh, I don't know. Since I'm a
<v Speaker 3>British fan, I know that the sound wasn't supposedly great
<v Speaker 3>on this, but I go back to I go see
<v Speaker 3>the Stone Roses at Spike Island in nineteen ninety. I
<v Speaker 3>didn't know about it until afterwards, but you know, I
<v Speaker 3>was a big fan of the band. Big fan of
<v Speaker 3>a band that doesn't play gigs and then gets back
<v Speaker 3>together and plays them only the UK and then breaks
<v Speaker 3>up before I get a chance to see them. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go to you know, the Merseyside, England to
<v Speaker 3>see that outdoor gig just to kind of see it.
<v Speaker 3>So those are those would be my five.
<v Speaker 1>I guess okay, ninety six. I saw Smashing Pumpkins play. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I saw in Little Rock, Arkansas, Okay, and had front
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even a big Pumpkins fan, like I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it was just like, hey guys, we got tickets and
<v Speaker 1>we happened to also have front row tickets, Like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>we'll go. The girl I went with Billy Corgan took
<v Speaker 1>her on stage. I was see you later.
<v Speaker 3>He did like Bruce Berings seen dancing in the dark
<v Speaker 3>thing where he reached out and brings her up on
<v Speaker 3>stage like with Courney Boxes.
<v Speaker 1>Basically exactly like that, like she got a kiss, she
<v Speaker 1>kind of awkwardly danced. It was very very much the
<v Speaker 1>yeah and the night was over for you.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so let's go to sports. I love how
<v Speaker 2>your your book really one of the tent pole events
<v Speaker 2>for me anyway, because I didn't grow up in Chicago.
<v Speaker 2>Is the Bulls, Right. Everybody in the world called Michael
<v Speaker 2>Jordan and the Bulls at that time, and so that
<v Speaker 2>cemented that idea of where we are in the story.
<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna get my five and then I give
<v Speaker 2>you five top five time travel sporting events.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right.
<v Speaker 2>So Number five for me Kurt Gibson's homer in the
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty eight World Series. Not a big Dodgers fan
<v Speaker 2>or even an Oakland AG fan. I just want to
<v Speaker 2>see that event happen, like I think that would be amazing.
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to see the ninety two Dream Team play
<v Speaker 2>in Barcelona, the greatest team ever assembled?
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? Yes?
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Number three for me, I want to see Tyson
<v Speaker 2>and Buster Douglas in Tokyo in nineteen ninety. Okay, the
<v Speaker 2>biggest baddest man in the world gets knocked out, biggest
<v Speaker 2>upset of all time.
<v Speaker 1>I will go back to Tyson versus Sphinx, where I
<v Speaker 1>went to go get a coke and some chips and
<v Speaker 1>I missed the fight. I would go back just so
<v Speaker 1>I could see that ninety.
<v Speaker 3>Second five ends or something. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Number two for me Game six of the Mets Red
<v Speaker 2>Sox World Series in nineteen eighty six.
<v Speaker 3>Wait, witch, Game Game six was that when Bill Buckner
<v Speaker 3>like the blog of his legs. Okay, yes, yes, Red
<v Speaker 3>Socks fan obviously at the time.
<v Speaker 2>I was just kind of a bandwagon New York Mets
<v Speaker 2>fan at that moment.
<v Speaker 1>So uh.
<v Speaker 2>And then number one, the Miracle on Ice. Come on,
<v Speaker 2>that's number one for me. Okay, Andy Fry, you're on
<v Speaker 2>the hot seat. Top five sporting events.
<v Speaker 3>Well, because I couldn't get tickets the whole three plus
<v Speaker 3>years and Jordan was back with Bulls, I'm gonna say
<v Speaker 3>any of the any of the NBA Final games, uh,
<v Speaker 3>from ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight. I mean probably,
<v Speaker 3>like I you know, i'd have to go to Utah
<v Speaker 3>unfortunately to see it, but to see Jordan, you know,
<v Speaker 3>dash one way and dust Brian Russell and put it
<v Speaker 3>back up and actually right behind me, I've got the
<v Speaker 3>the shot is right there over my shoulder where yeah,
<v Speaker 3>when you look at the crowd, there's all these Utah
<v Speaker 3>Jazz fans were like no, No. One kid who was
<v Speaker 3>a Bulls fan apparently in the in the background going
<v Speaker 3>like yeah, oh my god. You know, so like Jordan's
<v Speaker 3>making a shot and and Brian Russell's like over here
<v Speaker 3>halfway on the floor. So that would probably, I guess
<v Speaker 3>I'd just say that number two. I'd say, probably like that, uh,
<v Speaker 3>not the Harp on the Bulls, But I want to
<v Speaker 3>say it's the nineteen eighty five the slam Dunk contest,
<v Speaker 3>the one, the first one where Jordan really like cleaned up,
<v Speaker 3>you know, I think, uh that post now, I think
<v Speaker 3>it's that that's the one was him and Dominique Wilkins.
<v Speaker 3>If I could have the year wrong, but yeah, let's
<v Speaker 3>say just the Jordan versus Wilkins, and Jordan wins the contest,
<v Speaker 3>even though it's not like official sanctioned thing. Uh. Probably
<v Speaker 3>the other three, like, uh, you know that Alabama Auburn
<v Speaker 3>game a couple of years ago where Auburn caught the
<v Speaker 3>field goal that didn't become a field goal and ran
<v Speaker 3>it back and scored a touchdown. Awesome. Yes, and I'm
<v Speaker 3>not even a huge college football fan, but I'll say
<v Speaker 3>for the fourth one, most of my family's Ohio State fans.
<v Speaker 3>And I loved the first year the BCS playoffs, seeing
<v Speaker 3>I think it was new was it a New Year's Eve?
<v Speaker 3>I feel like my family all went to bed and
<v Speaker 3>I watched Ohio State bludgeon Alabama on national TV and
<v Speaker 3>then keep they kept it. There's a couple of pick
<v Speaker 3>sixes and they just completely distroyed and embarrassed Alabama the
<v Speaker 3>first time out. I'd be I mean, you know, o,
<v Speaker 3>Higo States fans are pretty obnoxious and maybe even more
<v Speaker 3>so than than Alabama fans could be. But that just
<v Speaker 3>had to be, you know, something to see. So yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I probably go with that one. And out of the
<v Speaker 3>fifth one, I don't know, like, uh, throw a wild
<v Speaker 3>card in there. I don't dislike Ronda Rowsey, but I
<v Speaker 3>would like to see Holly Holm knock her out just
<v Speaker 3>because it was so unexpected and it's kind of like
<v Speaker 3>health rows over, you know, and sort of skill and
<v Speaker 3>sort of the traditional side of that sport. Trump to
<v Speaker 3>the bullet that's pretty much the same thing as Buster
<v Speaker 3>doug Well, it's in this in the same ballpark as
<v Speaker 3>Buster Douglas knocking out Tyson Orlanic Lewis knockout Tyson. Like
<v Speaker 3>the big behemoth that was supposed to level the field
<v Speaker 3>got clocked. And yeah, I don't I don't uh dislike
<v Speaker 3>rod to Rousey, but that was you know, Yeah, let's
<v Speaker 3>throw some of the best women fighters in there for
<v Speaker 3>the top of the list. I'll go with that one.
<v Speaker 1>Awesome, awesome, Okay, So we're more eighty centric, but we
<v Speaker 1>definitely have fallen back into the seventies and dipped heavily
<v Speaker 1>into the nineties as well, And so we want to
<v Speaker 1>know your opinion on some of the nineties things, nineties
<v Speaker 1>movies and music that ever. Give us your We're going
<v Speaker 1>to give you matchups. You tell us which one you pick,
<v Speaker 1>and if you feel like, if you feel like you
<v Speaker 1>need to explain your choice, feel free to explain it.
<v Speaker 2>To Okay, this is a little bit of a lightning
<v Speaker 2>round that if you want to expand on this, you
<v Speaker 2>feel free go for it, all right. So earlier this
<v Speaker 2>year we did Goodfellas versus The Godfather.
<v Speaker 3>The Godfather is sort of the archetype of the perfect movie,
<v Speaker 3>but I enjoyed Goodfellas more. Okay, So like the first
<v Speaker 3>time I saw it, actually it was probably like ninety six,
<v Speaker 3>and my roommate at the time was a film school grad.
<v Speaker 3>He actually is the model for the character in my
<v Speaker 3>book named Rod James Bottoms Assess seven. I think it's like,
<v Speaker 3>I was, yeah, I've never seen Good fellow It's like, what, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna watch it right now. Watch you watch it
<v Speaker 3>right now? And it was like a I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>It was just like a Sunday afternoon. Yeah, it was
<v Speaker 3>worth it to just stop what I was doing to
<v Speaker 3>watch Good Fellows. I'm gonna say that one.
<v Speaker 1>Is your buddy short. Oh yeah, and did he date
<v Speaker 1>super Modeled a.
<v Speaker 3>Couple of times? Yeah, hits some. He's some tall, glamorous
<v Speaker 3>women that he needed. I mean, all those are exaggerations,
<v Speaker 3>which is what you do in fiction. But yeah, there's
<v Speaker 3>a there's a five story where he hung out with
<v Speaker 3>Wesley Snipes one night in Chicago when he was in
<v Speaker 3>town for for Blade to promoting Blade two and like
<v Speaker 3>ninety eight or something, and all kinds of great stories
<v Speaker 3>about like how weird Wesley Snipes is. And I go
<v Speaker 3>on doing on a doing different episode than that. I
<v Speaker 3>can even talking about that online. But uh, yeah, Wesley
<v Speaker 3>Snipes is apparently a he's uh he thinks he knows
<v Speaker 3>how to do kung fu and whatever, so r.
<v Speaker 1>Like, but he hits like.
<v Speaker 3>Always been on black back for a while.
<v Speaker 2>All right, here you go, this is a few your episode.
<v Speaker 2>We're hoping to do collective soul versus live.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't dislike collective soul. I know a lot
<v Speaker 3>of people think they're like post grunge, or there's I've
<v Speaker 3>heard a lot of people kind of level criticism is like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>there's radio band kind of grunge you want to be.
<v Speaker 3>I think they're just regular dudes who put out an
<v Speaker 3>album or two. And but I don't know. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>I really like mental jewelry. I got this conversation with
<v Speaker 3>somebody a couple of days ago. The first live album
<v Speaker 3>that came out when I was maybe a sophomore in college,
<v Speaker 3>which is less grungey. It's more I don't know, it's
<v Speaker 3>just unique. And uh, I don't know. So I'm gonna
<v Speaker 3>say probably live because I think that there have a
<v Speaker 3>little bit more musical depth. And yeah, they just I
<v Speaker 3>don't want to say either one is better, but there's
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more of a I'm gonna listen a
<v Speaker 3>little closer when I listen to Live.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, here you go comedies Dumb and dumber
<v Speaker 2>versus something about Mary.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man, they both grew on me. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of a toss up. But I'm gonna say
<v Speaker 3>dumb and dumber is because even though I know that
<v Speaker 3>you know the jokes are sophomooric. I can go back
<v Speaker 3>and watch that movie anytime, and it's like still funny.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, Caddy Shak versus Happy Gilmore.
<v Speaker 3>I think Caddy Shack just because it's so much more
<v Speaker 3>quotable and classic. But of Adam Sandler movies, Kapy Goimore
<v Speaker 3>is one of the better ones. Is one of the
<v Speaker 3>ones he didn't screw up by being Adam Sandler.
<v Speaker 2>All right, here you go the use your Illusion guns
<v Speaker 2>and Roses albums versus Telica's Blackoutum.
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say use your illusion to primarily, but either
<v Speaker 3>one will do. Yeah, okay, the Roses fan. I just
<v Speaker 3>watched the Metallica you know, like my cable provider I
<v Speaker 3>think is Xfinity, was like only on this week Metallica
<v Speaker 3>set at Lollapool Lose And I don't tend to be
<v Speaker 3>interested in Lollapo because it's more of a popfest now,
<v Speaker 3>but it came out. I'm like, yeah, I'm watching this
<v Speaker 3>and it was, you know, it was like an hour
<v Speaker 3>of Metallica just being Metallica. And the cool part was
<v Speaker 3>like you could see the fans and like all the
<v Speaker 3>metal heads who came there just for that were up front.
<v Speaker 3>There's no oh my god, I think I like Metallica
<v Speaker 3>because like there's dudes, so you could tell, like have
<v Speaker 3>the next he's been following them for decades. We're at
<v Speaker 3>upfront for that show, so it was a real deal.
<v Speaker 3>I can't disparage either one of those bands, but I
<v Speaker 3>just lean more guns than Roses because I like them better.
<v Speaker 1>So okay, all right.
<v Speaker 2>Allison Chain's Dirt Album versus Stone Tumble Pilot's Core both
<v Speaker 2>really same Day ninety two.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they's not my favorite album, although it was a
<v Speaker 3>pretty solid one, but like Alison Chain's better than STP.
<v Speaker 3>I don't dislike SDP, but yeah, I'm gonna go with
<v Speaker 3>Alison Chains always.
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Cool.
<v Speaker 2>Last one, Pearl Jam's ten album versus Nirvana's never Mind kind.
<v Speaker 3>Of depends on what mood I'm in. Like I've got
<v Speaker 3>tons of super like Pearl Jam people who like all
<v Speaker 3>their golf clubs have like a Pearl Jam, you know,
<v Speaker 3>like a you know, the things you put on your
<v Speaker 3>golf clubs. Keeping Like I've got those friends who are
<v Speaker 3>just you know, like they've been to fifty concerts, so
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate them, but I think, yeah, I've it took
<v Speaker 3>me a while to if you ask me in nineteen
<v Speaker 3>ninety nine. Let's say, like, do you really like never Mind?
<v Speaker 3>Be like, yeah, it's it's good. It's really grown on me.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not like a depressive sad person ever. I
<v Speaker 3>have a pretty good life. Because I want to put
<v Speaker 3>on never Mind just kind of feel it what Kirk
<v Speaker 3>Comaine was feeling and talking about. I think, in retrospect
<v Speaker 3>the emotions of his lyrics, and I mean, the musicianship
<v Speaker 3>is great but simple, and I just think that now
<v Speaker 3>more than ever, that you realize how much how good
<v Speaker 3>that album is. Never Mind is and program is great
<v Speaker 3>to attend. But I didn't get it back then when
<v Speaker 3>it came out, but I get it now that never
<v Speaker 3>Mind is just such a great album.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna dive just a bit deeper because this is
<v Speaker 1>the point of contention between Jason and I. On never
<v Speaker 1>Mind has a song called Territorial Pissings. I think it's
<v Speaker 1>punk gold. Jason thinks it's absolute trash. Three thoughts.
<v Speaker 3>I think it's punk old. But they have some other
<v Speaker 3>songs like love Buzz that are better punk punk gold.
<v Speaker 3>So I think, like my favorite song, but I think
<v Speaker 3>the best song on never Light as come as you
<v Speaker 3>are in terms of like a tune lyrically maybe lithium. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>it's all subjective, isn't it.
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's one of the things that I
<v Speaker 1>like best about the book is that you've got guys,
<v Speaker 1>I mean from the outset, even when she's in twenty
<v Speaker 1>first century, You've got guys in her record store who
<v Speaker 1>are arguing about the merits of various types of music.
<v Speaker 1>And it's a conversation that you can have with anybody,
<v Speaker 1>And as long as you keep it friendly and good nature,
<v Speaker 1>it's a great conversation to have. You know, you can
<v Speaker 1>act shocked and dismayed, but it's all really just in
<v Speaker 1>good fun.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>D So this week we got a Shirley showcase from
<v Speaker 2>our good friend Amber Lewis of the Docking Base seventy
<v Speaker 2>seven podcast.
<v Speaker 1>She's going to talk about Lethal Weapon versus Diehard, which
<v Speaker 1>we covered back Christmas or two ago, and I'm anxious
<v Speaker 1>to hear what she has to say.
<v Speaker 2>First of all, let's just make sure that if she
<v Speaker 2>says that these are Christmas movies, then we automatically she's like.
<v Speaker 1>Best friends with us. Absolutely.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's hear what she has to say.
<v Speaker 4>Hello, Shirley fans, This is Amber Lewis frequent guest of
<v Speaker 4>the Docking Bay seventy seven podcast, here to discuss two
<v Speaker 4>of the greatest Christmas movies of all time. That's right,
<v Speaker 4>die Hard and Leath the Weapon. First, we have Bruce
<v Speaker 4>Willis as a New York City cop John McClain, who
<v Speaker 4>finds himself trapped in Nakatomi Plaza on Christmas Eve as
<v Speaker 4>the Great Alan Rickman, together with Alexander Goudanoff and a
<v Speaker 4>team of terrorists, take control of the building to steal
<v Speaker 4>six hundred and forty million dollars worth of Bearer bonds.
<v Speaker 4>Their meticulous plans are thwarted, however, by our cowboy hero McLain,
<v Speaker 4>who acts as the self described fly in the Ointment,
<v Speaker 4>the Monkey in the wrench, the pain in the ass. McLain,
<v Speaker 4>with the support of Officer Al Powell via Waukie Talkie,
<v Speaker 4>uses his street smarts and sense of humor to outwit
<v Speaker 4>the glorified bank robbers and save his wife and the day. Elsewhere,
<v Speaker 4>in the City of Angels, Detective Roger Murtau played by
<v Speaker 4>Danny Glover is forced to spend his last week before
<v Speaker 4>retirement partnered up with Mel Gibson's detective Martin Riggs, who
<v Speaker 4>may be crazy or just acting crazy to draw a
<v Speaker 4>psycho pension, but should definitely be registered as a lethal weapon.
<v Speaker 4>The two detectives have to try to not kill themselves
<v Speaker 4>or each other while tracking down the Shadow Company, who
<v Speaker 4>is trafficking heroin from Asia to the United States. The
<v Speaker 4>two detectives save MARTA's daughter and the city while forming
<v Speaker 4>a true and lasting partnership that is sealed by the
<v Speaker 4>sharing of the world's Worst Christmas Dinner. With this matchup,
<v Speaker 4>we all need to first come to the agreement that
<v Speaker 4>these are in fact Christmas movies, even down to the
<v Speaker 4>detail that they both have happy endings with a Christmas
<v Speaker 4>Carol playing us out as to which movie is better.
<v Speaker 4>It's a challenge to choose when one is a Buddy
<v Speaker 4>Cup movie and the other is an every man's hero movie.
<v Speaker 4>Leith a Weapon is a much darker story and Danny
<v Speaker 4>Glover does not get near enough credit for his amazing work,
<v Speaker 4>but the villains in this movie are by far the
<v Speaker 4>weakest and less interesting point. However, die Hard has a
<v Speaker 4>much more relatable hero, a stronger cast of supporting characters,
<v Speaker 4>and one of the best movie villains ever. The comedy
<v Speaker 4>Lands the effects are greater, and it's generally a more
<v Speaker 4>fun movie that I will definitely stop and watch no
<v Speaker 4>matter what. Put down the remote. I'm in for the
<v Speaker 4>long haul and that's what makes it the winner in
<v Speaker 4>this matchup. That's your Shirley's showcase for this episode. Thanks
<v Speaker 4>for listening, and check out Docking Base seventy seven.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Amber, absolutely, these are fantastic Christmas movies and we
<v Speaker 2>love your pick.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we are obviously on the same page. If you
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard her episode on those two movies, go check
<v Speaker 1>them out. But we are die hard, die hard.
<v Speaker 2>Fans if you will, We're die hardly the Weapon fans
<v Speaker 2>to be honest.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we're die harder.
<v Speaker 2>And Alan Rickman is one of the greatest movie villains
<v Speaker 2>of all time.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Sin, since he's moving up to kidnapping, you should
<v Speaker 1>be more politible.
<v Speaker 2>Ember, Thank you so much for doing that for us.
<v Speaker 2>We sure appreciate you. If you get a chance, go
<v Speaker 2>check on our friends Dayton Johnson and Amber Lewis over
<v Speaker 2>at the Document seventy seven podcast.
<v Speaker 1>Thanks ever.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but those people are in record stores everywhere. Like
<v Speaker 3>you can get an argument with somebody in a record
<v Speaker 3>shore if you want to just buy a side conversation
<v Speaker 3>you picked up on like, oh, can you say that,
<v Speaker 3>you know, say that this version of the song is
<v Speaker 3>better than that? Yeah, that was That was one fun
<v Speaker 3>part of the book that just kind of happened our game. Well,
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad that you like that. You want to take
<v Speaker 3>the gray Line with me time travel back to the nineties.
<v Speaker 3>We can go fight with those people if you want
<v Speaker 3>to our our music tastes. That's sort of the spirit
<v Speaker 3>of the book. I think.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we would love to take the gray Line and
<v Speaker 2>travel back with you to the nineties.
<v Speaker 1>That would be awesome. Hey, we're going to wrap it
<v Speaker 1>up before we go. Can you tell people where they
<v Speaker 1>can get your book?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so if you want to go to Nineties and
<v Speaker 3>Nineties dot com. That's my website. It's the Nineties and
<v Speaker 3>the Nineties with the numbers, and that's a direct for me.
<v Speaker 3>And I'll sign it for you to send some swag.
<v Speaker 3>And also you can buy it on Amazon too. It's
<v Speaker 3>Amazon or any other place you buy books. I suppose
<v Speaker 3>buying it direct from the author. You know, if you
<v Speaker 3>really want to make sure that Jeff Bezos has more
<v Speaker 3>stupid cowboy hats, go to Amazon. I mean, like, we
<v Speaker 3>all buy stuff on Amazon, so it is there, and
<v Speaker 3>if you want to get from there, that's fine too.
<v Speaker 3>But I can sign you a copy for Interesting Coming
<v Speaker 3>to Ninetyays in the nineties dot com. Other than that,
<v Speaker 3>if you're in Chicago, there are a couple of places
<v Speaker 3>like Reckless Records and Rattleback Records have a couple of copies,
<v Speaker 3>and I try to get the local record stores and
<v Speaker 3>bookstores to to participate too, So it just depends on
<v Speaker 3>where you buy books, and a couple of places there
<v Speaker 3>you can get it.
<v Speaker 1>Awesome.
<v Speaker 2>Well, Diana had a great time with this one. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>to our listeners, if you're looking for a book that
<v Speaker 2>will bring you back to the nineties and grunge and music.
<v Speaker 1>And sports and also just hanging out with your friends
<v Speaker 1>and just the importance of being in that moment and
<v Speaker 1>just loving on people who maybe you twenty years later
<v Speaker 1>didn't see again. I think that's I think that kind
<v Speaker 1>of was one of my favorite features that you did.
<v Speaker 1>You did appreciate, Hey, one of the things that was
<v Speaker 1>great about this was the people that I got to
<v Speaker 1>spend that time with. So I think it's really well
<v Speaker 1>done book. Anybody that is listening please check it out.
<v Speaker 1>We love it.
<v Speaker 2>It has sparked conversation between D and I about people
<v Speaker 2>in his past, people in my past, friends that are
<v Speaker 2>long gone, that type of thing.
<v Speaker 1>So that's been fun, too awesome.
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you guys liked it, and thanks for having
<v Speaker 3>me on.
<v Speaker 1>It's been great having you Andy anything, any parting words
<v Speaker 1>that you'd like to give to people.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Phil Collins, I'm sorry, I don't like your stuff.
<v Speaker 3>You know, the book is about music, snop, somebody's got
<v Speaker 3>to get beat up. But I've been listening to some
<v Speaker 3>like early eighties Genesis in the car a little bit
<v Speaker 3>like actually, you know, like once I got rid of
<v Speaker 3>Peter Gabriel, I like Genni Sits. But then, you know,
<v Speaker 3>then you give Toul Collins eight million dollars to come
<v Speaker 3>up with a sappy song for Lion King too, it
<v Speaker 3>all goes to hell. So we'll have our hang ups
<v Speaker 3>about music, and that's part of what makes it fun.
<v Speaker 2>I guess for the record, I love eighties Phil Collins,
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, it is.
<v Speaker 1>It is a bunch of fun. So everybody please go
<v Speaker 1>check out that book. Thank you for joining us. Remember
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, one more nineties cliche Yes later, Dudeticulator