Candiace Is Stealing The Traitors | S4 Episodes 1–3 Recap with Dustin Ross

00:00:04
Speaker 1: Ray, I can't start with the laugh.

00:00:09
Speaker 2: Listen, y'all know we're goofball, Dustin, and I know we are not starting in the new season of heated robbery.

00:00:20
Speaker 3: And where did they find out what sport we would have been playing?

00:00:22
Speaker 1: But yes, well I like a wide receiver.

00:00:26
Speaker 3: Do you really? I love a tight end myself? Are you a quarterback to It looks like we'll be all over the field.

00:00:33
Speaker 1: Okay, build up dreams.

00:00:40
Speaker 3: Oh yes, if you build it, they will come.

00:00:49
Speaker 2: This is why that happens on Patreon because I get to be a little bit more risk risque. Look, ray Drops, we are here to recap season four, episodes one through.

00:01:04
Speaker 1: Three of my new favorite show, The Traders.

00:01:09
Speaker 3: Baby, it's our obsession right now.

00:01:12
Speaker 1: Dustin this show.

00:01:15
Speaker 2: Okay, so so rain Drops. I have never watched this show before, right. Dustin hit me up and he was like, I think we should recap The Traders, And I said, I actually think you're right, because number one, the show is huge and I have FOMO and I knew that last season everybody was talking about it.

00:01:37
Speaker 1: Dustin. Last year, going into.

00:01:40
Speaker 2: New Year's I was in Hawaii with a friend, you know, with my girlfriends, and long story short, one of their neighbors.

00:01:47
Speaker 1: You know, They're like, what do you do for a living? I run down my resume and he was like.

00:01:51
Speaker 2: Do you know Faedra And I said, yeah, you know, she did Atlanta Housewives. That's the show I was telling you about. He said, I've never seen Housewives, Bird, but I've seen Traders, and I'm obsessed with her. And I'm watching Marition Medicine.

00:02:05
Speaker 3: See the power of that show, the power of the Traders. Yes, and she was listen, fad on Housewives is a different conversation. On the Traders, she was an outstanding player on that game, one of the best traders of all time. Out of all four seasons I watched all well, I watched the first three seasons and we're watching the fourth season now. But Faedri was outstanding on The Traders, so his reaction was warranted for sure.

00:02:32
Speaker 2: Yes, No, it's such a big show. So let me tell you guys something. This is a show that is going to be appointment television for me. Dustin, I kept refreshing my peacock, so I'm like, what is this, Mother like, what's this?

00:02:50
Speaker 3: Come on? Come out?

00:02:52
Speaker 4: Okay, baby, I know a little bit, uh, you know, think about coming out, but this is such a phenomenal show, we have to get right into it.

00:03:07
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start by saying this Dustin, and then we'll recap the three episodes in my humble opinion, as I'm watching Traders season four, episodes one through three, Okay, I Carlos King, but go on record saying, so far this show belongs to Candas Dillard Bassett.

00:03:31
Speaker 3: Let's clap for clap four give it up for Candace. Another prime example, love her hate her on Real House Arts of Potomac in just three episodes, really in just one because as soon as Mama found out, as soon as the shoulder got tamped, it was game on. You see the way she shook her head. She was like, yes, silence, she was ready. She Candas is beyond fit for the job of being a trader. Okay. And another thing about Candace being a Trader being this show. This is a game show, right, so the cast changes every season, but if you are a Trader, it's like becoming It's like being a lead on this show. So for what for all the purposes, Like, she's like a star of the show already, and people are focused. She's a focal point of the show because of the way the game works, simply by her being a trader already adding it at her wit, her her knowledge you know what I mean, and mouthpiece, her her conniving ability, and her her complete focus on leaning all the way into playing the game. Candas is knocking it out the park. And honestly, she's already done better than Faedra. I'm not making a comparison, but just as a as a marker, she's already outplayed Faedra completely because Fedro relied on her. You'll see, because you're definitely gonna go back and watch Faedro relied on a lot of canvas, is operating from a skilled a skilled lens. The way that she's playing this game is masterful, and if you watch the earliest seasons, you're really you see the brilliance already she's getting down.

00:05:05
Speaker 1: Oh well, listen, listen, listen.

00:05:07
Speaker 2: I definitely have to watch season three where Fradra was on then, because for you to make that statement is huge because we all know that Dustin Ross is a historian of all things, especially on scripted television.

00:05:22
Speaker 1: You and I both know that last.

00:05:24
Speaker 2: Year when the word traders was used, Fadra's name immediately followed, and as somebody who's never watched you know, the show, I even knew that this Phaedra that I know personally is somebody that is killing it over Traders. So for you to say in three episodes that Canvas Dialer Bassett is a really doing better than Phaedra, then can this come and get your batty chain before?

00:05:52
Speaker 3: Sure, give it up, give it up, because she definitely deserves it. The humor when she's in her confessional scene means the way that she's engaging with the when her and Lisa Arena, who I can't stand already, but when her and Lisa Renda started screaming in the in the in the room, I forgot what it's called where they meet up, where the Traders all meet up, when they watch their room and saw each other and started screaming. Candace is just she's perfect for this job, perfect perfect, perfect perfect.

00:06:20
Speaker 1: She no, she really is, and I listen for me.

00:06:23
Speaker 2: It goes to show you that it's nice to see our housewives right in different light because I felt that Candas owned it. So, like you said, here, I'm watching the show, we see Porsche's a housewife that's on the show, Derenda Medley from the Real housewats of New York City. We got Caroline Stuonsbury from the Royal House Watser Dubai and formerly of Ladies of London. And Candace Diller Bassett. So they all arrived separate trucks. The anticipation is there, everybody meet each other. Candace is dressing the part and baby so Dorenda So's Dorenda.

00:07:03
Speaker 3: Jacket. Yeah, Derinda ain't playing. Also, Carlos, they picked like those are heavy hitters as far as the Bravo franchises are concerned, Right, Derenda man from New York. She meant a lot to New York. Candie meant a lot to Potomac. You know what I'm saying, portion means a lot to Atlanta. Who are oh, Caroline Stansbury, you know what I mean, central figure in even building that Dubai cast out, So like these are they picked like some of the cream of the crop. Well, yes, as far as like their Bravo relevance.

00:07:35
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Oh, for sure, for sure.

00:07:37
Speaker 2: And to round out the rest of the cast rain drops, you got Donna Kelsey, who is the mother of obviously Travis Kelsey and his brother who are the football stars.

00:07:48
Speaker 1: We got Johnny Ware, Tara.

00:07:50
Speaker 2: Lipinsk they're both Olympians, Natalie Anderson from Survivor, Jam Jam from Survivor, Ian Terry from Big Brother, Monette Exchange from Drag Race.

00:08:03
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we have Michael Rappaport.

00:08:06
Speaker 3: Unfortunately we're gonna get We're gonna give him a section later.

00:08:10
Speaker 5: He's coming, Okay, okay, Colton Underwood from the Bachelor, Eric Naham who is a TV personality and a musical artist, and Kristen Kish who is the host of Top Chef, Mark Ballast who is from Dancing with the Stars, Maura Higgins from Love Island, and Natalie Anderson who also won Survivor too.

00:08:42
Speaker 1: I'm trying to Rob r from Love.

00:08:44
Speaker 2: Island who's a trader, Ron Funchez who is a comedian, Stephen Colletti as we all know from Laguna Beach, and One Tree Hill, Tiffany Mitchell from Big Brother. We're gonna talk about tiff two baby, we we're gonn talking about Tiffany.

00:09:03
Speaker 1: So so, so that's the Castle.

00:09:05
Speaker 2: They all arrived at the Castle and like Dustin said, immediately we learned as there.

00:09:12
Speaker 1: I like to call it the war room.

00:09:14
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, they're all in the war room.

00:09:18
Speaker 1: And we see that Lisa, Renna, Candace and Rob see right Rob c No, no is it Rob? No? I think Rob sees the.

00:09:34
Speaker 3: One that they sit home they sent home?

00:09:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Rob. There's a lot of Robs. So Rob, they're all the traders. Like Dustin said, you see the smark of Candace face. And that's when I knew that the producers knew what time it was. And from there, Dustin, I knew with those three being the traders, two housewives, let me ask you, this is that the first time two housewives have been traders at the same time?

00:10:08
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, what yes, for sure, that's the very first time. And they picked two vicious to really sharp EDGs. You know what I'm saying, housewives, they got they picked the right ones, perfect choices, perfect. Yes, this is the first time YEP housewives history.

00:10:29
Speaker 2: And it goes to show you because we all know about Housewives is a big international show. So to have Lisa Rena, who was very cunning when she was on Beverly Hills, Candice was cunning when she was on Potomac. Rob to me, which I thought was a perfect choice listen. He's easy on the eyes, he's very nice. He seems very unassuming. So to balance.

00:10:52
Speaker 1: These two vicious, right victorious.

00:10:56
Speaker 2: Women, I thought it was very smart to balance them out with a nice guy. Me too.

00:11:01
Speaker 3: They think he's stupid. He was on Love Island. You know what I'm saying. You watch the show in and out. I was not at Love Island devot like like a lot of these people were. But I watched in and out. So no, not sufficiently. But they think that he comes from Love Island. They think he's in the air head. They're gonna think that the housewives are airheads too, because they're housewives. But what they don't realize is that those are three of the smartest players amongst this cast. Now, when I tell you Lisa Rena and she was, so they picked three people who are so excited to be traders as well. So this is just they couldn't have done a better job picking out this group.

00:11:43
Speaker 1: So then we have the new bomb that was dropped dustin, which, according to the show, for the first time ever, there's a secret trader amongst them.

00:11:59
Speaker 3: Some new and a viewing audience didn't even know who it was. So it was a real secret, locked down, secret secret for real. But yeah, that was new and that definitely threw me, threw me off. I didn't know how it was gonna work, like, well, how are they going to vote? How are they gonna And then once Alan explained how it was gonna work, it made perfect sense, and it did make the game that much more exciting because there's simply another layer of the unknown. You just literally have no idea who else is watching, you know. It was just incredible. So I thought that was brilliant on behalf of the producers to include that.

00:12:33
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, no, it was great. So here they are.

00:12:36
Speaker 2: They're doing their first activity of the day, their first challenge.

00:12:41
Speaker 1: It includes rowing in the vote.

00:12:43
Speaker 2: They are trying to get these coffins and put the compass in the grave of these contestants.

00:12:51
Speaker 1: During this moment is when.

00:12:55
Speaker 2: The life of Michael Rappaport started to irk. My nerves, and my my nerves have been irked for him ever since he and Kenya were on Watch What Happens Live.

00:13:11
Speaker 1: And I have loathed.

00:13:13
Speaker 2: This man ever since because and I'm gonna say it, I don't care BECU is offended the the the vitrool that he had towards Kenya, I thought was very in the words of Nimi, when Kim Zosiak said they had chicken, it was very suspect.

00:13:28
Speaker 3: Very suspect. I thought that was very suspect. We didn't have chicken. We had lamb and shrimp. Michael, first of all, you you said it nicely. I'm gonna say it the way I want to say it, right. Fuck Michael Rappaport. He always got his nose in somebody motherfucking business, always got something to say about a black issue, about black women, black people, always talking about that. He was pseudo alluding to supporting the some policies that right now that are very harmful to a lot of other people. And he really stuck his foot in there. He has an obsession, for some reason, with being deemed a hood, you know, a tough, street smart person. Every five minutes on this goddamn show, he talking about how he's from New York and you got to be able to you feel me us using aave and black colloquialisms that sound out of place and obtuse to the rest of his language. You know what I'm saying, and you can tell that it is something that is important to him, which worries me as old as his motherfucking ass, is that he still doesn't even know who he is. He's still searching for an identity. To me, he disrupts the fun of the game when you're a person who all he's a one trick pony, you know what I'm saying. All he got is being adversarial and confrontational with the other guests. That's it. He's fucking entitled, which we'll get too later on. He made up ideas and made up things that he felt he was old and entitled to and to say that he felt he was all was entitled to have. I cannot stand Michael Rapperport with his He looks like he's been skinned alive. That's what he looks like. He literally looks raw like he like he like he is not done. You know what. I ain't never seen a premie adult, you know what I'm saying, in my life, But that's what he looked like, like he's not complete and waiting for the rest of whatever's gonna take to make him back hole. Why does he look like that? That's why he acts like that. It's a rottenness from the inside out that that is that is really coming to the surface and you see it. And this is what really pissed me off. I got pissed off about Real Housewives of Atlanta all over again because ain't no way in hell Michael Rappaport is casted to this show and Kenya Moore ain't on this cast. Baby, I got mad all over again. Carlos, Kenya should have been there on this cast with him. Can you imagine Kenya and Candae and Porsche if she will get to Porscha but can on his ass in the name of.

00:16:03
Speaker 2: Bravo, in the name of blackness and the sounds of blackness.

00:16:08
Speaker 3: Okay, but I hate him, man, look at look at my first note, Carlos for episode one show this to the I hate Michael Raffle. That's my very first note.

00:16:28
Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, I don't listen.

00:16:30
Speaker 2: I ever since he did Higher Learning forty years ago. I don't know if he took the script and just memorized it and thought that was his introduction into the Centyian lounge of the black cart in the American spress.

00:16:47
Speaker 3: You better lay it out.

00:16:50
Speaker 2: I don't understand his his desire to try to be down, do you know what I mean?

00:16:58
Speaker 1: I don't get that.

00:17:01
Speaker 2: And listen, we all know that he loves housewives, which great, we do too, wonderful, fantastic congratulations and happy birthday. However, as he's sort of playing this game, you know, his strategy is very thirsty. So even when he did say right, you know, he wanted to get the Housewives when he.

00:17:28
Speaker 1: Decided to attempt to put the coffin in a housewife's grave, and Candace was the one who said no, like, we ain't doing the Housewives because Canda is loyal. We watched Potomac. When it comes to Candace, she means what she says. She says what she means, and she's very loyal. And he even tried to at the end before the buzzer ended to put the coffin and Porsche us.

00:17:59
Speaker 3: He did, he did, and it's always the Black Housewives. Let's call it what it is. You know what I'm saying. And then he told on himself too when it comes to him being problematic and toxic sidebar, let me put this pin in here, Carlos, you and I are not even the kind of viewers that hinge on opportunities to identify issues that relate to the social climate, social justice related issues, none of that. We be trying to be entertained, right, But you can't help but notice the glaring you know what I'm saying microaggressions, which are really just aggressions. At this point, we were talking about him saying things like I'm you know, I'm a crap shit talker, a big crap shit talker, and you know, I'm just trying not to offend nobody. Well, what in the hell is that supposed to mean? Right, What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Man, that kind of energy ain't even up in nowhere in that cast them people showing love to each other with the you reasonably you know what I'm saying, and playing the game he's in. He And when it comes to being a Housewives fan, that's fine. We literally are in the business of offering commentary on these shows, sharing our opinions. But there's a line that you don't cross, right, even when we are hard on people, so to speak, or people perceive us to be hard on someone, there's a line that we're not going to. Michael Rappaport is one second away from calling them black bitches on that show and holes and shit like that. We don't cross certain lines, and it's not a personal thing for him. It appears to be deeply personal. Okay. Anytime you start talking about how you grew up and shit when they're playing a goddamn game, and why is that even relevant to what we're doing here, it makes you know that it's connected to something that is much more internal for him. And I can't stand his ass, Okay, I can't. He looks like he literally bathes with it, like he washed up with a cheese grater. That's what you look like like. He just take a cheese greater if And when he watches his ass, that's what it looks like. He watches a bit.

00:20:04
Speaker 1: You have pretty much called this man uncooked perdue chicken. Yes, okay, that needs to be thought out. There's a controversy over people washing their beat. You don't think he washes his ass, let it go, and you think he needs to be put back into the burner to be fully developed.

00:20:24
Speaker 3: I do, yep, or at least him like he is. I don't give a damn. I'm glad he looks horrible like that because he has horrible energy, you know what I mean? He literally fucked up the whole vibe of the game multiple times already. On episode three, Carlos, Yeah, no.

00:20:44
Speaker 2: He did, he did, he did, so you know he makes that comment. Candas says, no, he tries to get Porscha anyway.

00:20:52
Speaker 1: You know.

00:20:53
Speaker 2: As they're driving away, Candace tells Porsche what Michael Rapperport said.

00:21:00
Speaker 1: Maura is in the car. Who love her? She's gorgeous?

00:21:05
Speaker 3: Again.

00:21:06
Speaker 2: I have never seen an episode of Love Island, so the only people I'm familiar with are the housewives, Michael Rappaport. Unfortunately, I'm aware of the Olympians m h.

00:21:18
Speaker 1: And that's it for me too.

00:21:21
Speaker 3: I don't know watch Big Brother. I only watched the celebrity Big Brother season, but I don't I don't watch Big Brother, and I'm not a Survivor fan. I don't watch that.

00:21:29
Speaker 1: Either, and I'm not a gamer.

00:21:31
Speaker 3: No. So Traders introduced me to a lot of these personalities, and I do recognize and respect that they're big in that space. I just don't watch the show, so I don't know. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, what's up? I'd been looking at them like, Medea, well, who you right?

00:21:52
Speaker 1: Madia on Traders would be iconic.

00:21:55
Speaker 3: She might as well come. Also, speaking of people in Drag Money Exchange, incredible player on this game, game player.

00:22:04
Speaker 1: I watched Drag Race, do yeah.

00:22:07
Speaker 3: An incredible game player already sowing prowess on them in the boardroom and knowing how to get there, knows how to get her point across without you know what I'm saying. It just I'm impressed. I am impressed. I'm impressed the exchange.

00:22:22
Speaker 2: Yes, no, Bear impressive, Bear impressed up again. I'm learning these new characters. I like everybody except one, and I know who one is.

00:22:39
Speaker 3: Mm hmm she gone. I can tell you that.

00:22:46
Speaker 1: What hold on.

00:22:53
Speaker 3: Miss claus looking ass. I can't misdoubt fire looking ass. I can't stand her. I cannot stand her and I couldn't stand her ass from the beginning. I smelled shit. I knew I smelled something Rat. I knew it. It was something about the way she shook her head. And if you watch the show, you know who I'm talking about. Because we ain't there and Carlos's layout yet, but damn it, it's on my mind. When as soon as she opened that chest and I saw her go, I was like, the goddamn thing I knew immediately Carlos you know, there's.

00:23:28
Speaker 1: No rules on recap, but we're gonna yeah.

00:23:31
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry because I know what you're trying to do. Carlos.

00:23:35
Speaker 1: This is better.

00:23:36
Speaker 2: Don't trust me, this is much better, honey, Please without giving away too much now right. You suspected this person was the secret.

00:23:48
Speaker 3: Trader from the beginning. Really, she was a dead giveaway to me. Number one, she was a mark amongst the cast. She stood out naturally, right, like you you different from everybody up in here in a way that then there's a cat. The cast is literally the description I know the people that hey, d I hate watching this show because it's so diverse, okay, and so inclusive, because it's a little bit of everybody on this cast, right. But what made her different was her disposition and her willingness to classify herself as a fan a fan girl. To me, she was just a dead giveaway. I was like her old lying ass sitting up here sipping mint julips and shit, you you lying? She's lying? Okay with that? Mary kay on lying lying o lying, smelling like skin so soft, lying, lady.

00:24:45
Speaker 1: My mama used to wear this so that smell was so good.

00:24:52
Speaker 3: Sh She came up in there with her rock ports on. You know what I'm saying, start causing hell. What's the name of that little booty album? Touchdown calls hell? That's what she did. And I'm never talked about she a mayor because Mama. It's a bad week for people named Mama, Ain't it between between Mama in Salt Lake City and now Mama can Traders. The mamas just having a you know what I'm saying, Mama's just having a week.

00:25:17
Speaker 1: And let's be.

00:25:18
Speaker 2: Clear, America, Mama Hoddy will always be Catherine Jackson.

00:25:23
Speaker 3: Let's say about it. And second place Claire Huxtable.

00:25:27
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, at third place, Celestine Beyonce aka Tina Knowles, Mama, I.

00:25:36
Speaker 1: Never know you to be America's Mamahuddy, I don't.

00:25:39
Speaker 3: I knew you to be them motherfucker's mama. That's who I knew you to be. You Travis and his brother's mama, and they're there. They are world class, all time athletes, hall of Fame athletes. We know, we ain't taking that away from that, but you're up over here, you know what I'm saying. And I smelled a rat I've seen her.

00:25:56
Speaker 1: I knew.

00:25:59
Speaker 3: Robin williams ass glasses on and ship I knew, I knew. I'm telling you, what's the what's the guy? You know exactly what I'm talking about? Is it Bruce Valance? What's the guy's name that had the he had like the the bangs and like the shoulder length like here an they wore glasses. Let me see if it was Bruce you're talking about like this, we're doing this live.

00:26:23
Speaker 1: Let me look, please shall be be fotal.

00:26:26
Speaker 3: Yep, it's Bruce Valance. I knew that was his dad. There she go, Hey, Mama Kelsey lying ass. And that's just how she showed up right there. That's how she showed up getting off that damn uh that damn she came. That's Mama Kelsey right there, Bruce v Lance Yep, talking about America's mama. I said, soon as soon as she Carlos on everything I love, she opened that chest, my nigger. I looked at my screen like the bad I knew. I knew what you not what you're doing like this for? And then Rob pissed me off. Or Ron what's the comedian name, the one that that all the time, but Ron.

00:27:24
Speaker 1: This black cart is revoked.

00:27:25
Speaker 3: My brother and it was revoked when he greeted Mama Kelsey of c I s see me, Carlos, we peep it. When he greeted Mama Kelsey up front, you done made some great sons. I was like, I'm like, what's up with this motherfucker? You know what I'm saying, Like, what is all that? You're gonna tap dance and do a backflip next? What are you doing? And so then for him to get into thing and flip on on p Willie the way he did. You know what I'm saying, you ought to be ashamed of himself.

00:27:59
Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, listen, that's what you are. I'm so stuck off the.

00:28:08
Speaker 3: I won't see it again. Here goes, Here goes Mamma cansei. Mama can't see there, she goes. She on the Cat season Foe season four. That's right, Jesus, And I love old people. You know what I'm saying. I love old people. I love being around old I just like old. But I never trust her. I never trusted Mama Kelsey sitting up there at the glasses on. I never trusted her.

00:28:42
Speaker 1: This is gonna be good. So Dust said you didn't trust her?

00:28:46
Speaker 2: Now the trust really did come to a head because I listened, y'all can say what I want about Canvas. Candace was putting her sister up on game like look.

00:28:59
Speaker 3: Says you gotta do Michael, that's all. That's basically what she was saying. Hey, Porsche, aim at Michael. That's basically what she said. Why wouldn't that clicking? Porsche, Porsche, Porsche, what in the hell? What's she doing? And thinking, Carlos And we love her because she wasn't doing nothing but being herself, being ourselves.

00:29:26
Speaker 1: But listen, but that's where you have to say, like Porsche.

00:29:31
Speaker 3: It's this thing one like Porsche, like Porsche. And the thing about it is, I honestly feel like Porsche was trying to dial down her personality to be unassuming in that house. We know Porsche to be a much more tenacious person. We've seen her. We've seen her do stuff like what she did on the Traders, on averlanda Housewives, but we've also seen her be cunning. We've seen her be a sleuth. We've seen her put two and two together. You know, I mean, come on, Porsche, like what Porsche? And then what we just what can you say?

00:30:14
Speaker 1: It's almost oh god.

00:30:17
Speaker 3: To watch her. Okay, you know the rest. Now here's my thing. It's one thing for her to have the slip she had in the when she was in conversation with the other players.

00:30:30
Speaker 2: Right which by the way, which by the way, okay, because the slips were I can't, I can't killed in and.

00:30:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I killed in And then she also said, well, there's four traders right now. People felt like that was a giveaway. To me, you're supposed to act like you don't know nothing, but it wasn't. To me. That wasn't That would not have made me feel like she was a trader because obviously, if we've watched the show before, we know that there are typically three traders. We also know that he just said there's a secret trader, so it's either gonna be three or there's a bonus trader and the other three. So it was a reasonable thing for her to say. It just came from a person who had just said some more dumb shit, and so now you literally look like a mark. And the thing is they were dead wrong. Porsche was not a trader, and.

00:31:23
Speaker 1: You could tell she looks sad about it too. When they were accusing her of being the trader. Now look, listen, y'all know I'll go up for Porsche. This housewise so.

00:31:36
Speaker 3: Different. It's a game, so it's not personal.

00:31:38
Speaker 1: It's a game, yo, So you know we.

00:31:40
Speaker 2: Talk about her personal life, heyor now look, I was like, Porsche, Candice is giving you the black girl code of like, look, bitch, Michael needs to be the one you zone in.

00:31:53
Speaker 1: On the fact that she she believed. And this is the part that made me feel like, Porsche, did you not learn anything from trusting people who stabbed you in the back?

00:32:07
Speaker 2: Michael Vappaport, just because he's a housewife fan does not mean he's a friend of yours. So to go back and tell Michael what Candace said, I'm.

00:32:18
Speaker 1: Like, are you again? I'm already with you.

00:32:22
Speaker 2: I'm mad at Ron because I felt like Ron black Cars revoked Porsche. I'm like, is your a housewife slash black cart about to be revoked?

00:32:30
Speaker 1: The best part to me, Dustin Ross, was.

00:32:34
Speaker 2: When she told Michael and Michael was like, I didn't say that, and she said, he said, who said it? She wouldn't say it? Then she said Candace. Then she said, let's go talk about it. A part of me wonder if you agree or not. I felt like there's still residue over what happened between Porsche and Candace on social media when Candace felt that Porsche was defending money and their altercation and then they did Ultimate Girls Trip Season three together whatever Yet three I think it was Yet three.

00:33:08
Speaker 1: And they had a little tip but they got along at in the end.

00:33:13
Speaker 2: But I felt like Porsche thought Candace was trying to set her up when no, Candas is trying to push up on game. But my favorite part is when Porsche I came in the kitchen and said, Kansas said that, Candas said.

00:33:27
Speaker 1: Who said that?

00:33:29
Speaker 3: She had another who said that moment. You can't make that up. That's priceless. That's priceless that that happened. I caught that too, and that was a what do they call it a nugget or a easter egg? That was an Easter eggs. Yes, for the Housewives fans, for sure, Porsche played this game so wrong because the last thing you should have done was go against Candice or any of your other Housewives sisters on that show. She was looking at it through a lens of well, candis is for I am? I'm assuming is this right? And I'm a great court of mine. She was like, Candas is familiar, So if I want to be interesting on this show or take up some space around all these people who are obviously playing an analytical head game that she's not able to understand that that's what she needs to be doing. As well, she probably said, well, Okay, to get some camera time, I'm going to bring this thing up that I know we'll start some shit and if it get on between me and Candas, whatever, because we already know each other so we can argue or whatever. And I think that's the mistake she made, because Porsche, Candace repeatedly threw you bones. Even the worst part for me for Porsche was the round table. When they were at the round table and it was time for her to defend herself when Ron Ron Ron.

00:34:47
Speaker 1: Ron Ron and not the one from a different world because he got his car go ahead, right?

00:34:53
Speaker 3: And why didn't you bring your liners to Scotland?

00:34:56
Speaker 2: We're not We're you ask that question?

00:35:00
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm a black too. Why didn't you bring your andes or your wall t on them tea liners? Why didn't you bring those to Scotty?

00:35:09
Speaker 2: I had or I would have I would have loaned you, not loaned y'all, would have delivered, gifted you my box of Beijing no longer use.

00:35:17
Speaker 3: He can have it because there needs to be something done at this point. With on a grooming tip, he had colorful outfits that were memorable, and that the clothing and the fashion is also a big part of Traders. I don't know if you peeped that yet, but everybody's out are expressive and just bride and they wear patterns and shiit, so like that's the part of the game. He played into that with that bright colored card again and the color block jogging suit and ship. But he gonna have to get a pumming stone aloofer and we need to hear that. But we need to shot. We need that now. When Porscha went round, was nailing Porscha's ass to the wall in that boardroom, right, and she was it was time for her to defend herself. What in the hell, Well, I'm just trying to think like the Traders, and so I was trying to put my head and name my mind in they had and think like them. And so that's why I said that. What Candice, who's seeing this and is probably just as mortified as we were. Canvas is like, okay, let me try to save her. She throws the shit into the water for her to pull herself out with by saying, well, but I know Porscha, and she has a habit of saying certain things or whatever, and I don't think she's a trader. But Donna and Candace tossed it right back to Donna that point. All she had to do Carlos was boom, Okay, let me let me focus on Donna, because there's already some some scuttle but going on regarding Donna being a trailer. Let me just lean into that because they onw my ass right now. But she didn't even do that. She just sat there, defeated, and I was like, Porscha, okay, So at this point you're either just not complaint, not paying attention, or completely checked out. I don't know if something else was going on at home, she's thinking about some at home, we don't know, but she was she There was no way she could have been. I refused to believe that she was having trouble understanding the general concept of defending herself at that roundtable.

00:37:20
Speaker 2: I I would say, knowing her, she did I we we're not Dustin when I saw her.

00:37:29
Speaker 1: Face crack when Ron put her in the hot seat because she was not expecting it. Porsche lives in her own world, right, and I think I think Porscha was too much in her head by by doing I listen, I'm a tape of Porsche did. Because I know Porscha. I'm not saying she told me this. I'm guessing, but I know I'm right. She called Adra hey girl, because Porscha.

00:38:01
Speaker 2: I'm not sure this is public knowledge or not, but whatever it is, it needs to be. Nini has made it known that she was offered Traders, but she couldn't do it because what was going on with her son was in the hospital.

00:38:20
Speaker 1: Nini was supposed to do Traders. Nini could not do Traders. A week or two before they left to go to Scotland, Porsche replaced Niini.

00:38:30
Speaker 3: Okay, Nini would award Traders another chance.

00:38:36
Speaker 1: To think. I hope so too. Porscha did not have enough time to do her her due diligence because she didn't watch the show. I know Porscha. She got the call made I want to say, maybe Porta got the call a week or two before they had to film. I know her, she called Pedra her girl. Phaedra did it.

00:38:56
Speaker 2: Phaedri gave her, you know, the crash course, and I think she tried to do as much research as she could. But it's sort of like cramming for your the finals and you have all of this information in your head, so dusn't clocked it when it's sort of like you you see Porsa not being herself.

00:39:17
Speaker 1: Porscha has what Teresa Judies has. You know how Teresa Judai's eyes blink when when when when she clocks something delayed? Porsche had that moment going off for her, like everything was delayed, like what's going on? She didn't she didn't get the game, and she didn't get that Canvas is trying to help you in the car. Canvas is trying to help you in the fucking war room.

00:39:42
Speaker 2: And Dustin, you're right, I don't watch the show, but because it's between you and Donna, it's like celebrity princess.

00:39:49
Speaker 1: We're in the boardroom. Bitch.

00:39:52
Speaker 2: I need to convince people that in the words of Dustin, I'm not gonna say because that's that's the word. This warman needs to get out of there what she did to do. She looked, she looked defeeded, she looked, and she.

00:40:05
Speaker 3: Was hurt when Lisa, Rena's dog ass voted for Porscha and went against the win against the cold in the family. But that show you what what she is and how she get down feels a scoundrel, A dirty riding scoundrel, that's what she is. And she ain't no good that's what else she is. She ain't no good. Why would she vote for Porsche like that? And then that was a stupid player. That was when I That was one of the places where I felt like she dropped the ball right because to me, that would have made me feel like, Okay, she went against Porsche, or maybe she's a trader because these housewives are sticking together, So why would she want to go against the house wife unless she wants me to think the housewives ain't sticking together. Something's up with Lisa immediately, but she it was just juvenile to me, and I expected more from her. But yeah, yeah, I felt bad for Porsche and then I felt sorry for her when she walked out. I felt bad like her feelings was hurt man, And I know it's just I just feel bad.

00:41:05
Speaker 2: It's a twenty hour flight to go to Scotland. She left her daughter behind. She packed all the bags. Let's be clear, she contacted her stylists. She had all her wardrobe together.

00:41:16
Speaker 1: She could show off the fashion, noble deals, the skims deals, all of that, the gold naked wigs.

00:41:22
Speaker 2: Imagine Dustin flying somewhere for twenty hours to be said off.

00:41:29
Speaker 3: Day two, Ye on your way in and wat.

00:41:36
Speaker 1: That's it? Get you harrassment? Yeah, going home telling people.

00:41:41
Speaker 3: I can't talk about it either. They just see you home say no, you lost, but you can't even talk about it, you know what I'm saying.

00:41:47
Speaker 1: Like your daughter's like, hey mommy, I was trip.

00:41:50
Speaker 3: You're like I thought you was come. You know what I'm saying. But but she still did it. And I think that Dernda came back and this is nothing new. Now we're not gonna act like Porsche's the only person that this happened to. Derinda got They sent Derenda packing on the first motherfucking thing smoking last season, so her coming back, she didn't even make breakfast. That's why they did a standing ovation for her like that when she came in at breakfast. Because baby Derenda did not even take her coat off last season. She was out of there. All you see was the back of her motherfucking head. So so Derinda came back this season. Hopefully we see Porscha come back later in the season in some capacity, because that can also happen. They could bring her back or next season Porscha gets another shot because she was funny, She's beautiful, and I wanted to see her. She was making me laugh when they were doing the rowth challenge and stuff. She had me laughing. Porscha's funny so and I think that her and Candice could have made a hell of a duo. But so much for that, you know, yeah.

00:42:53
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was sad so Porsche just so. The first person to.

00:42:57
Speaker 2: Get eliminated once again rang John was Ian. The second person was Porsche. Like Dustin said, Lisa, Renna went against code. In my opinion, again, the show's already shot. But Candace, Carolina and Derinda. I wouldn't trust Lisa, Granted she's a trader, but more so with Candace Candace, I would have my bad I on Lisa Renda. She can't be trusted because what she did a Porsche is going against the code. Now the part that I thought was so genius, Kansas is so good, so Dustin. The Traders are told that they have to murder somebody in playing sight right, and they have the list of people, but in order for this to happen, they need to get the names out of the picture frame that's in the.

00:43:52
Speaker 1: Kitchen, right or the room the kitchen. Our girl, Candace, this de tarted to create like I.

00:44:03
Speaker 3: Got it is the way she said that. You guys, I think it's a great time for a conga line like she Candace has had me mother fucking dying on this show.

00:44:18
Speaker 2: Man.

00:44:18
Speaker 3: She is a great trader because that was in the in that flight attendant t w a ass uh jack you know hell yeah. To see to know what her intentions were for doing that, and to see the other contestants actually seriously taking it serious and getting in line doing the it was so funny, man, because it worked.

00:44:51
Speaker 1: It worked, It worked.

00:44:52
Speaker 2: And again it's the fact that Candace, if she if not the winner, she's going to go super far be because she thinks well on the spot, she's really good at It's sort of like she's the brain and Rob is the brawn. Because Rob knew to stick his pretty ass in the.

00:45:16
Speaker 1: Kitchen and handled it.

00:45:20
Speaker 2: And this is when I was like, They're like, I don't think you need a surrender more, Lisa rent it to me is purposeless when it comes to being a trader. To me, this is canvas and Rob's show.

00:45:33
Speaker 1: Then you had the other Rob, Rob c sort of clock what was going on, which is smart that they decided, of course listen to get rid of him, because I was surprised that he clocked it that early, which.

00:45:53
Speaker 2: Means, unfortunately for him, he knew what the fuck he was doing and he knew how to play the game right.

00:46:00
Speaker 3: He was prepared. Carlos was prepared. He was ready to play that game. He had watched the seasons and knew some of the curve balls that had been thrown before, and so he was just on the hunt for anything that stuck out. And once people started doing things that seemed a little stir crazy or whatever, he knew what time it was. He was sniffing right behind. He knew what was going on, you know what I'm saying, And so that was just that was brilliant game playing on his behalf though, and I'm sure he'll be proud of himself when he watches Well tonight, as he's watched the episodes, I know he was probably like, yeah, I knew, I was. I knew that motherfuckers was up to no good, you know what I'm saying.

00:46:38
Speaker 2: And I felt bad for him because he looked he looked so defeated, dusted when he walked in that room, because you can tell he's he's a competitor.

00:46:47
Speaker 3: He was salty, he was he was salty. He was Okay, what's that like? Was that little girl with the umbrella Morton's baby? He's southeast heir. I would have been to here another one. They sent his ass flying out the front door like Jazz on the Fresh Prince. They sent him in Porscha flying out the front door like Jazz on the First of the Castle. They did. Man. I hated to see it, though, because we knew that Porscha was not a trader, right, we knew that too, And people had high expectations from him because apparently he was successful in whatever other competition shows he had been a part of. He was good at it survivor, which that look I couldn't. I'm not. I need a hotel, you know what I'm saying.

00:47:46
Speaker 1: I'm flying none of that. I'm a child survivor.

00:47:50
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay for real and not unfairer. But yeah, so I just to see Porscha just go fade away like that. I was just really I was sad to see that they did pusha dirty and I hope she cussed. They asked the fuck out at their reunion because you know the reunion, they gonna get busy. Yes, So I really hope that Andy Cohen hosts its great. So I really hope that Porscha really gets them shit in a in a nice way, right, because you've got to be a good sweat at the end of the day. It's a game.

00:48:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a game, but but but that felt personal.

00:48:27
Speaker 3: I'm giving you the pieces of Avenue act. I was like, what the fuck, why is this nigga on Porscha ass like that?

00:48:34
Speaker 2: I didn't get that, and it was And because of that, the spotlight is now on Ron.

00:48:41
Speaker 1: They feel like Ron can't be trusted. And the other thing that came out.

00:48:46
Speaker 2: Of it is my good eye being on Tiffany.

00:48:53
Speaker 1: Tiffany, Okay, I gotta get your thoughts on this is Tiffany playing the game when it comes to being.

00:49:04
Speaker 2: Buddy buddy up to Michael, Like, what is the strategy? Is she using Michael to of course murder him eventually, or does she really think like me and Michael would be the lions to get to the end.

00:49:22
Speaker 3: I think it can be both, and based on what she offered up in her interview and her confessional, she feels like she's keeping her enemy closer by canoodling with him or you know, as cast members on this show, I thought it was a little weird the blind allegiance to him and the advising when they were sitting down, like and Earth, you got to just chilli, you know, no, you, Tiffany got you got to worry about what the fuck you got going on? Fucking you know what I'm saying. But once she offered the additional context, I was like, well, you know what, let me just wait and see. Because I do feel like she's a strong and she has the vibes that the winners have on this show. I can definitely see her making it all the way to the end. By the way that she She's just a very keen player, kind of like the guy that Ian was Ian who she was caping for. I don't know what's up for her caping for these men and shit, but she.

00:50:19
Speaker 1: Was caping for Ian and she's not a girl's girl.

00:50:23
Speaker 3: I don't think so either, even like the coming but but but to her, to be fair, she says that it's all an act. It's all a part of her strategy. She says, it's all a part of her strategy. So we'll see how that what plays out. I wouldn't have done it because I would have been trying to get Michael Rappaper out of there on day right, okay, day.

00:50:43
Speaker 2: One, absolutely absolutely, So they discover that Mama Kelsey is the secret trader.

00:50:53
Speaker 1: Dustin, I know you knew. When I say to you, Dustin Ice screamed at a television.

00:50:59
Speaker 2: I I was.

00:51:01
Speaker 1: Shocked and it was my first time again. I'm watching the show for the first time. Whoever was Oh my god, Dustin. First of all, Dustin, it's like eleven.

00:51:11
Speaker 2: Thirty at night, y'all know, y'all know, I'd like to be in bed by ten thirty. I'm staying up because I'm like, I had to finish. I have to finish this, and I'm literally dog. I got up and screamed at the television like what and everybody in the room, like get up and celebrate like they got it.

00:51:31
Speaker 3: Yeap. Oh great TV. It is great TV. And it was such the climax right of that moment, like it just yes, it's just it's great. This show is produced. That's why they we winning Immies and shit, it's produced so well. Alan is an incredible host. It just they got the formula right when it comes to The Traders, and they know how to produce the scenes and build the story to a point that just makes us so excited to watch as viewers. And that was a perfect example. I'm so happy that moment happened early in the season for people who like people like you Carlos, who didn't watch the show before. Now that's a great taste of one of the exciting feelings that come along with watching The Traders. It's shit like that that makes you be like, oh my god, and you be hinging on every word of what who says, what next, and what happens. It's just it's musty TV, and that's it was.

00:52:25
Speaker 1: It was good. It was good. It was good. I saw I'm surprised there. I knew it.

00:52:29
Speaker 3: I knew her motherfucking that is crazy.

00:52:30
Speaker 1: You knew that I knew it.

00:52:32
Speaker 3: I knew it. I knew it. I didn't trust her. I just ooh, I knew it. The way she would be sitting there. I'm just really a fangirl. I was like, your sons being a motherfucking super Bowl. You are not new to this, like so, I just I just wasn't buying it.

00:52:49
Speaker 2: Especially when she named drop Paul McCartney.

00:52:53
Speaker 3: And why you're being so friendly, lady miscalls while you're being so friendly, you know what I'm saying.

00:52:59
Speaker 2: I just was, I cannot with you. So they're happy they got dada out of it. They found the trader. They don't realize that, look obviously that Lisa, Renna, Rob and Candace are the traders.

00:53:16
Speaker 1: Still they do another activity. They try to.

00:53:20
Speaker 2: Stack, you know, these horns and unfortunately who is now up for elimination are Kristen Ron.

00:53:30
Speaker 1: Ron did not have a.

00:53:31
Speaker 2: Partner, so by default he was on the chopping block to get murdered. Caroline Stansbury got filled by Derenda Honey and Eric got failed by Johnny Weird, which, by the way, Johnny, okay, I don't know if you know anything about Johnny.

00:53:49
Speaker 3: Weir, Yes, very familiar.

00:53:52
Speaker 2: His personality is three thousand times way he's trying to fly under the radar.

00:54:00
Speaker 3: I beaped it. Strategy strategy lows strategy strategy.

00:54:04
Speaker 1: Yep, I forget he's I forget he's there.

00:54:07
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. The hallway to my rob lift me up.

00:54:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think he was.

00:54:16
Speaker 3: Do you remember do you remember on the show and Living Color, they used to have this segment back in the day where these two people would be like you would think these two people were like running towards each other and gonna embrace, would get up close to each other, and one of them would be like, bitch and go around if I if I was robbed, That's exactly what we ass would have got. You think I'm fin the risk breaking a bone in here, fucking horse playing with your ass, niggaf you don't go skate hell no. So yeah, but that was the only time that his personality really popped out, you know what I'm saying. Other than that, he's definitely dying and dumbing it down rather and you already see what he was on because remember in the beginning he said like, yeah, we can tear our best friends, but were not talking about it. We dumb it down. We don't want nobody know we're working together.

00:55:10
Speaker 2: And Dustin, they're doing such a great job because I don't even think about it. I forget about them, and I forget that they are rain jobs. If you guys have know this. They are best best best best best best best friends, like the closest anyone can be. And it's interesting because if me and dust were on that show, I already don't mean you'd be like, no, y'all off suthing like, yeah, you.

00:55:37
Speaker 3: Said, Carlos working to good. Yeah, we'd have been in that library which went damn the watch both of them right there. I would love to be on The Traders.

00:55:50
Speaker 1: Are you would be good on the Traders?

00:55:52
Speaker 3: I would be giving them hell at that roundtable. Do you hear me? Carlos? First of all, Donna, when you first walked your ass up, been here, I'm telling you, how have been going in? Carlos? What in Scotland? Shut up?

00:56:14
Speaker 1: But I am voting for you to be a Trader. You would be You would be so good on that show, Dusted.

00:56:22
Speaker 2: I'm advocating for so Studel Lambert reached out to look at Dustin on Instagram, but Dusted, there's four people up for elimination i e.

00:56:34
Speaker 1: Being murdered. Who do you think is going to be between Ron, Caroline, Eric, and Kristen. What's your prediction?

00:56:42
Speaker 3: My prediction is either Eric or Kristen because Ryan and Caroline are not really threats. They don't appear to be. Even though Roan did his thing on a Porsche or dismissal that actually worked his detriment as opposed to like making him popular in the house and amongst the cast. So I think Christie or Eric Eric, Christie or Eric, And actually I hate to see either one of them go. I like looking at Christy. I think she's extremely stylist. I love it. I just I feel like me and her would be homies, like we could get along. So I don't want to see and I think that she's a good game player. I don't want to see her go. So, but that's what I think. It'll be one of those two.

00:57:19
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think based on the deliberations.

00:57:23
Speaker 2: I know Lisa said they send a housewife home, they'll at least know that a housewife may not be a trader, and we do have two. But again, one thing that I did notice on this show too is their talks of.

00:57:37
Speaker 1: People being eliminated.

00:57:39
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense, and and how that can also be a red flag as they and to come backfire.

00:57:46
Speaker 1: So I'm with you.

00:57:48
Speaker 2: I would if I have to choose between the two of them, Christ and Eric, I definitely think it would be Eric for sure. Kristen, I'm with you. There's something about her that I want to see more of, and I'm intrigued by what she can bring to the show. But as of now, in three episodes, Candace, you're back and I am happier back on television. And my prediction of who's going to win the prize of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars Now, look, I could change my mind every week, but in these first three episodes, if I had to choose a winner, I think Tiffany is going to take them home.

00:58:30
Speaker 1: Who do you think, Dustin?

00:58:31
Speaker 3: So I think it's split. I think it's going to be split amongst a couple cast members because you know you can most.

00:58:37
Speaker 1: Oh it could be split too, yeah, oh, many to the end.

00:58:42
Speaker 3: Last seak, see how was it three or four people? I can't remember, but but I think that this is who I think will make it to the end. I think that Candace Robe the Trader. Yeah, Tiffany. Ooh, and if Christy don't go home, Christy, I think that they can make it all the way to the end. Mm hmmm. They gonna get Lisa Rena's dirty dealing ass up out of there. She does too much low down shit. You know, she gonna burn the wrong motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. They're gonna vote her ass. They're gonna toss her ass out of there. But the other one, I think they're gonna make it. Man, They're gonna make it.

00:59:24
Speaker 1: I agree with you, are gree with you. Okay.

00:59:26
Speaker 2: So if I have to choose more than just Tiffany, now that I know how the game works, I actually will include Candice and Rob along with Tiffany and the other person I would choose so far because they are flying under the radar so much.

00:59:46
Speaker 1: It's between Johnny and Tara only because.

00:59:50
Speaker 2: Only because I again first time watching, I'm intrigued by how they are playing it low and say, and I'm cure if that's gonna work for them.

01:00:01
Speaker 3: Oh you know what else? I misspoke to Because I think that if the if the Trader, I think that if the Trader makes it to the end. They get all of it or something like that. But faithfuls make it. They split it, got it, got it, got it, some shit like that. It's something like that. Hell I don't know, but yes, but that's it works, something like that. So we'll see. But I definitely see the people I named. I see them going a long distance.

01:00:28
Speaker 1: So listen, Dustint, I thank you for introducing the show to me. I am looking forward to recapping this every week.

01:00:37
Speaker 2: Some rain Drops does not every week we'll be recapping The Traders. If you haven't seen it, please go watch it. We get goss the spoilers. If you haven't, be hey, look it's still a good show. Every Thursday on Peacock, and I believe it comes on around eight o'clock nine pm, nine pm nine pm Thursdays on Peacock. Traders see and for a K A B. Candice Diller, Bast comeback.

01:01:05
Speaker 3: Story from one hundred percent and we're watching it. Okay, I love you, be good you too, Feast