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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Wants to bring in Lewis Riddick from the mother Ship. He'll be on the call for Miami at Pittsburgh Saturday neon Eastern on ABC. What'd you make of that back and forth there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Lane, man, that's Lane just trying to trying to deflect the questions and not answer him until he, you know, drops his decision on the rest of us. As far as we know what exactly it is that he's planning on doing. You know, it's a look, I mean, you know what. Look, I've talked to Lane Dan many many times. We cover a bunch of their games. I really like the guy, developed a friendship with him. He's been really good to me as far as, you know, the information that we need to do our jobs. But look, Lane right now is trying to make the best decision for his football career and the college football you know, schedule, as far as when coaches can be talked to, when coaches can be hired, you know, as when you kind of compare it to the end, I feel it's.

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Speaker 4: Just screwed up.

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Speaker 3: He's in a situation right now where really he can't win. He could make it simpler, you know, if his decision was simply just to go back to Old Miss. I mean, he could obviously simplify this whole thing and put this the whole thing the rest. As far as you know, the speculation surrounding his job, obviously it leads you to believe that you know he hasn't made a decision, or that he's made a decision that maybe that is going to cause a little bit of let's just say, controversy as far as maybe what he decides to do. But I think we're all just gonna have to sit and wait right now. And you can tell he's having a hard time trying to keep people off his back until he actually does make his decision and make it known. And it's tough, man, it's tough being in the situation that he's in. I don't envy him because I can understand, as far as you know, him trying to make a decision that he feels as though it was going to set him up to be a national championship winning head coach at some point down the line. And that doesn't mean necessarily that he can't get that done at Old Miss, but just right now. He's not willing to let us in on where he's heading with this thing.

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Speaker 2: And let's say he goes either lash or Florida. Yeah, would you let him coach ole Miss in the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: I'd have a hard time doing it. I really would, because obviously it wouldn't be fair to you know, to his players right now that he has the roster that he has assembled right now.

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Speaker 2: But he does give you the best chance too.

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Speaker 3: Of course it does. And look, I think what it is. It's it's kind of like it's kind of like an ethics discussion, I guess you you would say here, like, does he does he have to right to coach a team up until the very end, up until they get knocked out of it? Given the fact that he is, in essence kind of decided, hey, look, this isn't the team ultimately that I want to coach, and that down the line, I'm looking to move on and go to a different place.

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Speaker 5: I think that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you're if you're the sitting athletic director or the sitting president of of Ole Miss and he let's just say he did decide to go to a different place, Yeah, I would have a hard time I would have a hard time letting him continue to coach the team, although although he gives the team the best chance to win a national title with him leading the charge. Of course, Yeah, it's it's a it's a very tough it's a tough situation for everyone involved here, man, and I would not want to be in it. And somehow, some way, the NCAA has to kind of change up the structure so where you don't you don't have coaches being put in this situation, and most importantly, you don't have players and teams being put in this situation.

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Speaker 2: There was an incident during the Niners game against the Panthers when Juwan Jennings got hit in the groin and he was hit by Trayvon Mullrig. Okay, and then after the game he took a swing at Moullrig and then all of a sudden, people are like, wait a minute, what's what happened here? And then we saw the video where he gets hit in the groin. Yeah, what's worse getting hit in the groin or somebody's spitting in your face?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think look, someone spitting in your face. I think you've heard many people talk about this, Dan I mean, that's the ultimate. It's the ultimate show of disrespect, getting hit in the groin, someone purposely taking a shot. You're going, Look, it's.

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Speaker 5: All the same to me.

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Speaker 3: When someone's trying to butt you, know, to hurt you in a very meaningful way, and when someone's trying to disrespect you in a very meaningful way. Look, those those are just lines you just don't cross on the football field, and all things, all bets are off after that, they just are. I think Mike Tomlin put it perfectly when I guess a reporter asked him, how are you advising your players if someone were to spit in your face? And I think he you know, I'm kind of paraphrasing where he said, Look, you just do what comes naturally to you at that point, and someone that hits you in the groin, Dan, if someone spits in your face, I would tell you the same thing or anyone else, do what comes comes naturally and I'll back you from there.

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Speaker 2: Would you be playing Joe Burrow if you're the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: I think it.

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Speaker 3: Look, sometimes we know this, We know players need to be protected from themselves, Like the Bengals aren't going on anywhere as far twenty twenty five. And I know, like this is the highest form of competition when it comes to pro football, and you're being paid to do a job, and Joe Burrow's being paid handsomely. But at the same time, I'm trying to look out for his long term future and the long term future of the Bengals, and I don't think it's it's served by putting him out there and a season that right now isn't going anywhere. I just wouldn't want to risk further injury. I know he could get injured at any time. It is football, It's what he's paid to do. But I wouldn't put him out there.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: But he wants to be out there. Yeah, I know your fan base is paying to see him out there. Yeah, you can't bubble wrap him.

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Speaker 3: That's true. That is true. I understand that. But we're talking about one of the elite of the elites that look, I guess what I would really need to know here is, and I say this numerous I've said this numerous different times. One of the most important aspects of an organization is your medical department, your doctors, your trainers, your rehab specialists. I would actually want to know, Look, what is the risk of playing this young man and putting him back out there on the football field and the season that's not going anywhere? Am I risking his long term future that I've invested so much in by putting him back out there? What's the risk of injuring him to the degree where it compromises his long term future with our organization? Those are That's where I would probably wind up leaning on the most. But sitting here on the outside looking in, I would probably be like, look, we're gonna look forward to twenty twenty six with you, Joe.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to Lewis Riddick of the motherships. You got Miami at Pittsburgh, And I brought this up a little bit with Notre Dame in Miami Miami Beach, Notre Dame starting the season, Notre Dame is ranked higher. Where do you stand with that? Should Notre Dame be ranked higher than Miami? Given the head to head?

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Speaker 3: Look, I think there's a lot left to be played out still, Okay, at this point, do I think they should be being compared in the same pod as the as the committee talked about yeah, I do. I think they should be. I understand that they're saying that, look, Notre Dame's losses, or rather Miami's losses are worse than Notre Dame's losses. Then that's why maybe they are there is a little bit of a gap between where they are putting them right now and that they're not evaluating them in the same pod. Then why would why would any team ever want to schedule tough games in the beginning of the season anymore if early season wins don't count the same as late season wins. I mean, that's an argument Miami can make. It an argument that Miami should make. I think in the end, after this weekend is all settled up, we're gonna see whether or not that early season win really did mean something for Miami if they are able to get past Pittsburgh on Saturday and beat them convincingly, and then we can wind up having this, you know, this conversation once again. I think head to head should matter, no matter when you play it. I don't like the whole idea of the that the that the let's just say that the the value of that win diminishes over time. I don't believe that I do believe that teams can improve and teams can also become worse as the season goes along. But head to head Matt has to mean something regardless of when it was played. And there's gonna be a lot of other objective factors that go into this decision, which a lot of times it seems like that's a sliding scale that they use whatever they need to use in order to justify what their eyes are telling them. And that's why this whole thing's kind of a mess. When you can't ultimately decide things on the football field, then you're always gonna have disagreements.

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Speaker 5: You just are.

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Speaker 3: But that head to head is something I'm telling you has to have become a factor. It has to be a factor after this weekend is over.

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Speaker 2: Twenty minutes ago, I was talking about Rock Purty. He hesitated on all three of those throws in the first half. He threw interceptions, and I said, in college, you can get away with hesitate, hesitate, then throw, you can double pump. I mean, you have time. In the NFL, you don't have time, right Like, as soon as he paused, I went, oh my gosh, and then he threw the interceptions. You played defensive back in the NFL, you got to throw guys open and they don't stay open very long. But that precision is what makes quarterbacks great. And the guys who don't aren't able to do that. The younger quarterbacks who think they can do what they did in college, I mean, that's the death of you. So can you explain that though of throwing that receiver open as a defensive back facing these receivers in quarterbacks?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, the great guys who patrolled the middle of the field, in particular the safeties, even linebackers. But that's where you see the interceptions. That's where you see the lack of anticipation on the part of quarterbacks really come home to bite them. It's when they're trying to throw those big fifteen eighteen yard incuts that are coming in right inside the hash, right behind a second level defender or right in front of a safety who's coming downhill, and that's where a lot of times it's not open when you throw it, but you're banking on the fact that the receiver is going to be exactly where you expect them to be, and I'm going to put the ball exactly where there is enough time for the receiver to make the catch and protect them before that safety is able to anticipate where I'm you know that I'm letting both go of this ball and he's going to be driving downhill. So those those quarterbacks that are able to do that, I mean, you're right. The windows are about one foot by one foot. They're trying to fit them into a tiny little box. And if he hitches at all, if he hesitates at all, and it gives me that extra step that when he takes his hand off of that ball, when he takes his hand off of the ball and he lets it go, that's usually when I'm trying to break. Okay, as a middle of the field defender, if he pauses this for a second, he's given me another step in order to get there to either make the interception or have Back in the day it was a big blow up shot, which now you can't do. But maybe you're giving me that extra second to get there. And so yeah, you have to be for you have to be sure when you let that ball go, and even when you let it go on time, there are great safeties and great linebackers who are still going to be able to make the play. But that's that's the that's the cost of doing business. When you're throw on the football in the middle of the field like that, if there's any hesitation, you are really putting the ball at harm's way. I heard Kurt Warner talking about this where I read him talking about this, you know, on on social media. I believe it was either last night or this morning. Nobody threw the deep in cut better than Kurt Warner. Nobody, And he says, look, sometimes it burned me. Sometimes even when I let it go on time, the DV still made the play. But I can guarantee you this. If you don't let it go on time and they do get a break, you're cooked. And that's what was happening in the brock. I mean, that's I think you did. You talk about the fact that look, you know what, and I've said this too, fans should watch a game, or have the chance to watch a game from behind the from the quarterback's vantage point field level, to see what they see and see just how hard it is to do what you're talking about. And quite honestly, most fans or most average football players, high school college football players wouldn't throw a lot of the throws that these guys throw because it never looks open. You never look like there's an open window. But you have to trust it and you have to let it go. And look, that's why these guys get paid what they're paid, and that's why the error the margin for error is like slim and none.

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Speaker 2: But this is what I wanted Tom Brady to do or Peyton Manning to do, is have the camera behind the offensive line and actually put us right there in the moment. So Tom is going to say, I see the mic linebacker there, this guy's coming. This guy's going to act like he's coming. You know, we got safeties here. So if he tells me that in real time, yeah, that's the experience I want to hear from Brady or Peyton. So we do understand that. I tell my audience all the time, if you saw the game from the sidelines in real speed, you would be shocked how fast it is. Like TV helps us, you know, focus, It's incredible how fast and how violent the game is. But if you put me behind Brady and Brady goes to the lawn, and maybe better yet, Peyton because when he went to the line, he's changing the play and he's pointing out things. I think that would be fascinating. I think that that would really help us understand a tutorial on that's bringing you as close to the line as scrimmage literally as possible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the only challenge for them, obviously would be not knowing what the offensive call is. So therefore they can't necessarily give you all the reads and the checks that they would make because they don't know exactly what the offense is trying to do. So he may be thinking it's going to be one thing, but the offense is trying to do something else.

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Speaker 2: But Tom could tell me what he would be doing in that. Let's say it's third and ten, so it's obvious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just talking about as far as defensive recognition about what they're doing, what you would be a learning for Yeah, no doubt, no question about it. Yeah, and it would. I'll tell you, it would blow your mind.

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Speaker 5: Quarterback lane.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback is hard, man, because there's so much stuff that they have to know pre snap and then it can all change, then it all changes post snap, and that is.

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Speaker 5: That That's why.

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Speaker 3: Look, I always always give quarterbacks the benefit of Dallas, especially when you're talking about their development, because you have to. Football is a participation development sport. You cannot develop without participating, and you got to give guys time, especially a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, let me get one more question here, because I'm up against commercial breakdown. If the Cowboys beat the Chiefs yet, I.

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Speaker 3: Think they are gonna be very dangerous here in the month of December, very dangerous, and you're gonna be looking at Dallas and talking about can they really make that push to be a participant in the playoffs, And if they get in the playoffs, all bets are off because we all know in single elimination tournaments, teams that can score points and play defense at the level that they're playing defense now, especially upfront, they are dangerous. And who knows.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the Chiefs R, we're going to something. If the chief Yeah, I was gonna say that was my follow up to the follow up, But yeah, are the Chiefs done? If they lose on Thursday, well.

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Speaker 3: Then they need help and then you just don't know. The Chiefs just got to win out, and they got to control their own destiny. They've got to win out. So yeah, I think if they lose, then it's not in their hands anymore.

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Speaker 5: So then it's this fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs have to control everything now from here on out, and the only way they can do that is by winning every game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the follow up to the follow up, did Jerry Jones make the right decision on Micah Parsons?

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Speaker 3: If these guys continue to play the way they're playing and they're able to maximize the value that they got from those picks in the coming drafts, it looks like he may have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, save travels. Thank you, Lewis, Happy Thanksgiving, You got it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 2: That's Lewis Riddick.

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Speaker 2: Chris Collins wereth NBC Sunday Night Football analyst and just completed celebrated his five hundredth career broadcast Sunday Night with the Bucks and the Rams. On Thanksgiving Night, He's got the Bengals and the Ravens. Joe Burrow is expected to start. We'll kick off at eight twenty eastern on NBC in Peacock. Before we get started, apparently you were listening to my college conversation, my college days at Eastern Kentucky for two years, and you would like to be my therapist. Go ahead, you know, just a little bit.

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Speaker 7: It was interesting that, you know, you were in college and it was the college rule. You know, it was one foot on the ground you had to keep not too right if you had been a professional at that point. So in today's nil world, I think you would have had to have two feet on the ground in order to you know, pass.

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Speaker 2: How was your college, I mean, you were a big deal. You're, you know, big star at Florida.

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Speaker 7: It's like everybody else's I think. I mean, you go in there, you have no idea. My one son had the best idea. Austin went to play at Notre Dame and he said, you know, the most interesting part of college is the first week. Like everybody's in a full panic that they don't know anybody, they don't have any friends, and they want to have friends. So he said, I just came up with the idea. I was going to go up to every hot girl on campus and go, look, hey, we're all new here, here's my phone number. If you need anything, they give it yours. It was like the great a scam of all time that he had this whole thing worked out in his brain and the rest of us are like, Hi, Hi.

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Speaker 4: Florida.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to be a doctor, but I probably will never get there, so I'm hoping I can be a broadcast.

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Speaker 4: You know, Like what do we were all doing? We were all terrible?

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Speaker 2: Wait, you wanted to be a doctor.

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Speaker 7: I went through a year of like pre med and it was you know, I could do fine in every class except for the weeding out. Class was chemistry and I made like sees and pretty much understood at that point that wasn't happening.

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Speaker 2: What are the chances? Lane Kiffin goes to your alma mater.

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Speaker 7: You know, I was watching that game when Florida was playing Old Miss, and I was thinking, this is going to be the most messed up thing of all. Florida wants Lane Kiffin, and now Florida's team's going to beat Lane Kiffin before it, and so now nobody's gonna want Lane Kiffin like only Florida could come for this scenario.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I've heard little rumors on the outside and they're thinking that, you know, Lane's going to give them a discount for going to Florida and probably not going to happen, and you know, there's always a few things going on, so that, yeah, Florida's Florida's kind of in neat. And you've got to say, what Lane has done at Ole Miss has been pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 4: That's that's pretty good stuff.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: So you got the Bengals coming up. Would you be starting Joe Burrow if you were coaching the Bengals.

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Speaker 7: It's so hard to know, you know, going in there, I'm not doing the game on Thursday. Jason Garrett'll be doing that one. But it's it's it's difficult, right, I mean, you've got a franchise quarterback here, you're not in all likelihood going anywhere. But the part of that is it's still possible.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: I know the percent is like one percent that they do this, but they split with Pittsburgh and they have two games remaining with the Ravens. So if they were to beat the Ravens in both games, I mean, the leader in the division six and five, you know, they're both six and five, and the Bengals have three wins, So you knock off the Ravens twice. Who knows?

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Speaker 4: Is that possible? It's possible.

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Speaker 7: It's a divisional game, you're still not out of the hunt. But I have a feeling that Joe Burrow is kind of that guy that it just kills him to not be in the lineup where this guy's and we've already heard a little bit of the rumblings from behind the scenes. You know what it did for the defense that Joe Burrow practiced all week last week that he's not given up on the season and he wanted to play, and it kind of gave a spark to the whole team. So I'm assuming the doctors know what they're doing. Would I do it on its face, No, there just doesn't seem to be that big a reason to do it. But it's Joe Burrow, and you know, God bless him, he's competitive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the Ravens twice. You also have the Dolphins and the Browns and the car So you could kind of catch lightning in a bottle here and maybe make it interesting, putting some pressure on the Steelers. But like, you can't bubble wrap him Chris, like you're paying him fifty million dollars to be your quarterback. You can't go, well, we're not going to put him out there because the games don't mean anything. You still have a fan base. You got to play Kate as well, you do.

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Speaker 7: But the point of it, and only someone who has lost two Super Bowls could say this, honestly, you only played to win a championship.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't do you any good to win a game, to win a season, to have winning record, and we had a ten and six season. We didn't get to go to the playoffs. And when you know, everybody was always crying about that, and but you know, nobody remembers anything you did if you didn't win at all, They just don't. I mean I've never had anybody come up to me and go, oh boy, I remember those two AFC championship games you guys played, And no, they remember, Oh I remember when Joe Montana beat you twice in the Super Bowl. That's that's what they remember. And it's it's a really you know, I wish I had one more chance to do it, is the funny part about it. It's like it's like everybody wants to play to win the whole thing, the whole thing, and when you don't, it just doesn't matter. So if Joe Burrow playing this year somehow hurts his chances of winning it all next year, that's why I would think about it.

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Speaker 2: Does it make it any easier that you did lose to Joe Montana?

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Speaker 7: No, you know, because really we go through. So I do games in San Francisco all the time, and you go through, and of course the Super Bowl trophies are front and center when you're there. And they had five Super Bowls and three of them were complete blowouts. They blew out the competition and two of them were close games against the So we definitely had a chance. We had the first one. We were around twenty to nothing at halftime and still had a chance to win the game by the end of it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's uh yeah, so this is your becoming my therapist.

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Speaker 2: I was I was going to be your therapist.

00:23:16
Speaker 4: Now you're becoming mine. I need I need this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking to Chris Collins where it just completed his five hundred career game. It was Sunday night. More catches in the NFL or more games that you called, games that I called. I think it was important. You're close to five hundred receptions.

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Speaker 7: Weren't you were seventeen something like. We had a couple of strike years in there, and yeah, so, I mean it wasn't like nobody caught, like you could always be around the leading receiver.

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Speaker 4: If you caught.

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Speaker 7: Sixty to seventy passes like that, those are the guys who were going to the Pro Bowl back then.

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Speaker 4: Now those are like fourth string guys. It's you know, you know what.

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Speaker 7: The other part, it's funny. I never had one. I can't remember a touchdown pass. I'm sure I had one of under ten yards.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: I was watching DeVante Adams the other night and he was like quick slant. Jerry Rice would have one. I never caught a wide receiver screen like the game is just I never caught a back shoulder throw. Nobody even invented a back shoulder throw at that time. I was like, how stupid were we that we didn't think to have somebody stop on a go route when he was in position to be able to make the play. Nobody had the bunch formations where you could get three receivers and get them out of man to man coverage. I remember playing the Raiders and then the Cleveland Browns with their great cornerbacks that they had, and you just lined up out wide and tried to get open fast, and then meanwhile they're blissing to their quarterback and getting after him. It's so funny looking back on the game where it was and where it is today and the answers that they have the passing game today.

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Speaker 4: It's a wonder they ever run the ball at all.

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Speaker 2: You're kind of whining here the Super Bowls. You're whining about not being used correctly.

00:25:09
Speaker 7: Yeah, but at least I didn't have to keep one foot on the college.

00:25:15
Speaker 2: If the Cowboys beat the Chiefs, finish that sentence.

00:25:21
Speaker 7: Pay attention. I don't think they're catching the Eagles I really don't. But when you have an offense like that, yeah, pay attention because they did make some moves, right, they made some moves to improve their defense that was really pretty bad. And really the first game against the Eagles wasn't that sort of it wasn't that bad a game. That was the opening night. So the divisional opponents always spend a ton of time working on the teams in their division. So Dallas is the one team that division should they sneak into the playoffs and you go, you know who are the favorite right now? You probably say Philadelphia and the Los Angeles Rams are the two front runners, and Dallas because they can score points, could have a day, could have a day against either one of those teams.

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Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with the Eagles, and they're probably still trying to figure out does it come down to the offensive line Maybe isn't as good as it's been in previous years.

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Speaker 7: I think that's true. I do think that's true. But they were great, you know, they were so far superior than what they had been in the past. And the other one that I mean, I talked about it on the air the other night, but Jalen Hurts. I think to some extent they haven't completely opened up that offense, and they're going to make the playoffs. There's no way they're not going to make the playoffs. And the goal is to get to the playoffs and unleash the hounds at that point. And so you think about when the Eagles are great. In my opinion, Eagles are great when they have not scrambles, which Jalen does, but designated run plays with him. They run powers, they run read options, they run various plays. That sets up the run game because now you've got to leave the backside edge player there because you know he might hand it off, he might run the other way off to the right. So when you get those plays going, when you get those runs going, even if it's just five per game, it sets up Saquon Barkley to not have to have that backside in you're going to have an extra safety come down in the box to try and stop him from running.

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Speaker 4: And what happened last year.

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Speaker 7: Was when Saquon got out, it was against a single high safety and no single safety ever tackled him. But now defenses they're getting away with two deep safeties being back there in the run game and coming down and now they're able to tackle him and he's getting the ten fifteen yard runs. He's not getting the seventy yard runs. And the other part of that is, now you've got quarterback running, You've got Saque exploding with big plays, and now you're setting up what aj Brown does best, which is play against man coverage. AJ Brown with his in cuts, with his slants, with his catch and run, he looks like a tank out there on the field.

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Speaker 4: Now you get those two.

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Speaker 7: Things going, which they had last year, and now you got aj going. And now's the Dante Smith is, you know, the fourth thing you got to stop. And so he gets man coverage and he's catching the bomb. So I think when they get to the playoffs, maybe I'm completely wrong, maybe I'm completely out of my mind.

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Speaker 4: I do think you're going to.

00:28:47
Speaker 7: See Jalen Hirch run on some of those designated plays. More just set up everything else.

00:28:51
Speaker 2: Did Tom Brady reach out to you about how to become an analyst?

00:28:55
Speaker 4: He did? Yeah, Yeah. Did you reach out to you?

00:28:59
Speaker 2: He did not, because I wouldn't have the firsthand knowledge of that. I did talk to Drew Brees a little bit about it. But that's you know, you're in the studio, and I said, it's so sterile there. You've got to create excitement in the studio when you go to the game that allows you to be as close to the action as possibly playing. What did you tell Brady.

00:29:22
Speaker 4: To go to the studio? Honestly, it's exactly.

00:29:26
Speaker 7: But it's the same thing I told Peyton Manning, same thing I told all of them. I said, you know, the studio is something that what are you preparing for. You've got like five or six different hits during the course of the show. You know what you're going to talk about going into it. You can research it easily. It's not that big a deal. Now you do have to know a little something about all the teams, but that's not too bad when you do the game and you are starting from scratch every single week. I mean, we did Washington a couple of weeks ago, but so much which has changed during the course of the last couple of weeks. With that, now you got to go back and I got to be able to study Marcus Mariodin. I gotta because now he's taken over at the quarterback.

00:30:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is what Tom did on a weekly basis.

00:30:12
Speaker 7: Yeah, but here's here's what I tell him. And the same thing I told pay Man. I got to look, you're used to getting ready for one side of the ball, your offense against their defense. Now you have six sides of the ball that you got to get ready for. Now you've got to get ready for the backup offensive tackle. And who's the assistant weight coach and who's the general manager and what moves might they be making and blah blah blah blah blah, And it's work, I mean. And Tom God beloved him. That's what he said. He goes, I love the work. I love the grind. I missed the grind. I want to do that. And I go, okay, I said, now let me lay the last bit of you. Now we've got You're used to playing eight road games a year. You are now going to have twenty two road games. You got twenty two straight road games. I know you want to be around your kids. I know you want to have some time, you want to do that. But that's that's what it's about. When night we did the pregame show, we would go in on Saturday. Now I go in on Thursday night. So Thursday night to Monday is your twenty two straight weeks life if you're ready for that. And Peyton, Peyton was He's the genius of all geniuses. Somehow he went from he was going to call games, just sitting in his basement with his brother screwing around and getting Emmy awards. I have no idea. He's the smartest human being I ever met my life.

00:31:36
Speaker 2: Okay, but did you.

00:31:37
Speaker 4: Brady wanted it? He wanted it.

00:31:39
Speaker 2: Did he try to talk him out of it and tell him to do studio instead of going on the road.

00:31:45
Speaker 4: Did I do that?

00:31:45
Speaker 2: Did you try to?

00:31:47
Speaker 4: Yes?

00:31:47
Speaker 2: Every one of them.

00:31:48
Speaker 4: Have called me.

00:31:49
Speaker 7: I go, I go, look, just bear with me. I'm going to try and talk you out of what you're talking about here, and and I give him the same I give them all the same spiel, every single one. I'm because I don't want them coming back to me going, oh man, my life was ruined. I'm living on the road. You know, I might as well be a baseball player. You know, I'm never home, you know. So I didn't want I didn't want to hear that back. Now, getting to the stadium on Sunday and calling a game is way better than being in the studium for all the reasons you just said, because you're sitting there and you get the action, you get the excitement of being at the ballpark. You get what we pay for right as fans. How many times have you paid to have a seat in the stadium for the big events? And I'm there every Sunday night. It's fantastic. Now, you know, you talk for three hours. I mean the President of the United States doesn't get to talk for three straight hours at any point during the week. So when you mess something up, you know, you say something stupid or something that you didn't you know, mean to insult somebody, but you do. Then you pay the price and you end up in the blend ur of social media for a little while, and then somebody else does something.

00:33:04
Speaker 2: So you're whining about being on the road for twenty two weeks? Do you want to be back in the studio? Is that what you're saying? Wow, Collin's worth coming off the road question mark. No, you're up to five hundred.

00:33:19
Speaker 4: I mean, well, what am I going to do? Shoot for a thousand?

00:33:24
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you can go back to the studio now.

00:33:27
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, I'm perfectly happy.

00:33:30
Speaker 5: I don't I'm looking.

00:33:31
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm in, I'm really we have a great time. You have a road family. I mean, you know what it's like, you have a road family. I mean it's like you have people I live with literally for six months out of the year, and you love them and you're happy to be with them and the whole thing. But I just think that quarterbacks in general, especially ones that have had the careers those guys have had, they're used to a certain way of life and they're not. You know, it's it's worked. I mean, you go to the practice facility, you sit around. You got to get there early for the head coach, then you stay another two hours afterwards for the quarterback who's coming out of a massage, and you know, I mean, there's it's you know, it's different.

00:34:09
Speaker 2: It's real quickly.

00:34:12
Speaker 4: You're turning me into a whiner here. I don't want to be a whiner.

00:34:15
Speaker 2: You complained about Montana, and you complained. You know, I'm just I'm just listening to you, Chris. I'm here for you.

00:34:25
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, well I appreciate that. I see Bobby Knight right in front.

00:34:29
Speaker 2: No, that's Lou Holtz, that's Lou Holtz at Arkansas.

00:34:34
Speaker 4: No way with yellow hair.

00:34:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the day he had ye, I mean he had Robert Redford kind of here. Really, I'm a lot older than you, Chris, thanks for joining us. Safe travels there with Washington in Denver on Sunday night.

00:34:53
Speaker 4: I'm gonna work on being more positive.

00:34:55
Speaker 2: Here at all. Right, That's what I do, Chris collins Worth.

00:34:58
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00:35:10
Speaker 2: Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer, joining us on the program. So, Lebron's back, Luca's back. Are the Lakers back?

00:35:18
Speaker 5: Looking at their record, it seems that they're back.

00:35:21
Speaker 8: Yes, I think now JJ Reddick has his full compliment of players. The question I think going forward is how is he going to navigate?

00:35:32
Speaker 5: You've got Luca averaging thirty four and a half.

00:35:35
Speaker 8: You've got Austin Reeves the second leading score at around twenty eight. I had to go back and look at this and maybe you can answer this.

00:35:46
Speaker 5: When was the last time It's never?

00:35:49
Speaker 8: When was the last time Lebron James was the fifth leading scorer on his team.

00:35:55
Speaker 5: He's averaging fourteen points. So how does JJ.

00:36:00
Speaker 8: They navigate that having an All NBA player just a year ago second team in Lebron, and now you incorporate him within the Lakers structures who've gotten off to a great start.

00:36:11
Speaker 5: Whin there's a four straight.

00:36:13
Speaker 2: But this could be a good thing.

00:36:14
Speaker 5: Reg It's a great thing. It's a great problem to have, and we saw a little bit.

00:36:20
Speaker 8: I just recently watched the back to back series they had with Utah, and that second game in Utah, the last two minutes were a little kind of wild because they didn't know it was between Austin Reeves and Luca and Lebron, and all they kept running was high screen and roll with Lebron being the screener. At some point when Lebron has his legs, he has his wind, and he's.

00:36:47
Speaker 5: Back in full shape, no back issues.

00:36:51
Speaker 8: You assume at some point Lebron's gonna have the ball with some of these highest screening roles. So once they figure out that dynamic of crunch time, they still won the game, don't get me wrong, but they've got to figure out their closing.

00:37:04
Speaker 5: Moment and action between those three.

00:37:07
Speaker 2: Players Okay, give me the hierarchy in the West. Best teams in the West right now? Who would be number one? Aside from Okac Okay.

00:37:16
Speaker 8: No question Oka, see yeah, then Jokic and Denver, and then right right after them is the Houston Rockets. I think Houston is playing off the charts right now at both ends of the floor. And I think they figured out. You know, we were wondering, like, how would Lebron fit in with Luca and Austinees. We were kind of wondering, and older Kevin Durant, how is he going to fit in with this young team? And it's been perfect him and Shane Goon. I'm in Thompson to me, I think come playoff times. I still have questions about that point guard. But they figured it out so far and they're winning ball games. So to me, those are the top three teams.

00:38:05
Speaker 2: Can the Thunder win seventy games?

00:38:08
Speaker 5: They could if they wanted to.

00:38:09
Speaker 8: I don't think that's a priority for them.

00:38:13
Speaker 5: Again, and they're doing this without Jacob.

00:38:15
Speaker 8: By the way, guys, and just like last year they did that hot start without Chet. Chet played the first game, got hurt and missed, you know, like fifty games after that or something, and they continue to win, so they're only going to get better once Jalen Williams gets back. Could they win fifty or seventy and maybe go for the Golden State Warriors record?

00:38:38
Speaker 5: Perhaps, but I don't think that's a priority.

00:38:41
Speaker 8: Being healthy, playing well going into the playoffs is probably and getting overall number one seeds because as we saw last year, you want a Game seven in your building and having the overall best record allows you to do that.

00:38:55
Speaker 2: Are you on the Piston spandwagon?

00:38:58
Speaker 5: I am the Pistons.

00:39:01
Speaker 2: Where do they rank in the East? Then who's the best team in the East?

00:39:05
Speaker 5: No question, it's Detroit.

00:39:07
Speaker 8: And what I love about them defensively they bring back that same identity from the Isaiah Thomas and Bill Lambier bad Boys to the Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton Tayshawn Prince. They have a defensive identity, but more importantly, they have a go to guy in Cave Cunningham. I loved the Duncan Robinson pickup a guy that is a catch and shoot type guy, but he's added to his game. He doesn't hurt you defensively, and Jalen Durnham is an All Star in my opinion, this year, he's made the biggest leap in terms of his development, controlling the paint and being able to score as well. To me, they are, no question right now, the best team in the Eastern Conference.

00:39:54
Speaker 2: How did the Nets get this bad, Reggie?

00:39:58
Speaker 8: I think it all went to when they Katie Kyrie, James Harden and a lot of trades, bad trades.

00:40:05
Speaker 5: And it is what it is.

00:40:08
Speaker 8: It's just bad trades, bad management, bad scouting.

00:40:16
Speaker 2: But they're one of the most irrelevant teams in all of pro sports, right Yes, I mean they're terrible. They're there. They got Michael Porter Junior and that's it.

00:40:31
Speaker 8: I will say this, there was a time if Kevin Durant's foot or feet are not on the line, they could have an NBA championship.

00:40:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's such a long time ago.

00:40:43
Speaker 5: It is. But it's ebbs and flows with some of these organizations.

00:40:48
Speaker 2: I feel like I could have done a better job running than Thatt I do. I'm barely kidding.

00:40:56
Speaker 5: No, you're to me.

00:40:58
Speaker 8: Bad management, that scouting, it's just right now, it's a bad organization.

00:41:04
Speaker 2: What do you make of the Kenyan Martin Draymond Green back and forth? Where Okay, let me see if I got this right?

00:41:11
Speaker 5: Is that it up? Okay?

00:41:12
Speaker 2: Kenyan Martin, former number one overall pick, said Draymond isn't tough, he's calculated. Draymond responds by calling Kenyon Martin an underachiever for only making one All Star team. Kenyon Martin responded by naming two hundred power forwards better than Draymond Green. How did we get here?

00:41:31
Speaker 5: Right? Look?

00:41:33
Speaker 8: Both of these guys from Michigan right. And I posted a comment after I saw the response from from Kenyan Martin about the two hundred power forwards that were better than Draymond, saying, and I'm quoting Rodney Keane, can.

00:41:50
Speaker 5: We all just get along? Right?

00:41:53
Speaker 8: Because both of these guys I played against Kmart in his era, very tough dude over a number one pick, brought it every night. And I've covered Draymond Green throughout his whole illustrious career. And to me, it, I mean it's popcorn worthy. Don't get me wrong, it's it's fun to watch the back and forth. But I just wish these two either Kmart needs to go on Draymond's podcast or Draymond needs to go on Kenyan's podcast. They need to air this out because it's getting a little ridiculous now. Personally, if I was Draymond, I never would have responded because you've got the rings.

00:42:38
Speaker 5: And right now.

00:42:39
Speaker 8: It looks like this is almost like the Drake Knda Lamar beef right, and right now it kind of looks like Kmart is winning.

00:42:49
Speaker 5: I don't like the bo outlaw better than Draymond Green.

00:42:54
Speaker 8: Evan Rettie Evan's better than Draymond Green.

00:42:59
Speaker 5: Now some of them, don't.

00:43:00
Speaker 2: He had on June? I mean, come on, man, okay? Is Draymond a fake tough guy? Is he calculated?

00:43:11
Speaker 3: Meaning?

00:43:12
Speaker 5: What does that mean?

00:43:13
Speaker 2: That means that he is very good at engagement?

00:43:17
Speaker 8: Maybe he just hasn't tell I think what kmart is saying is that he hasn't started something with the with the wrong person, like for like for instance, for instance, you remember when Boogie Cousins DeMarcus Cousins went against Zach Randolph and was trying that with Zach Randolph, and Zach Randolph said, I.

00:43:39
Speaker 5: Put fear in the bullies. He picked on the wrong.

00:43:43
Speaker 8: One because de Marcus used to go after just about everyone, but he wouldn't go.

00:43:48
Speaker 5: After Zach Randolph.

00:43:50
Speaker 8: Right, And I think that's what Kmart is saying, like, you're not going after the real tough, You're not.

00:43:57
Speaker 5: Going after all the enforcers. And I just wish these.

00:44:02
Speaker 8: Two would get in the room, hug it out, talk it out, podcast it out.

00:44:06
Speaker 5: Whatever these kids do today, figure.

00:44:08
Speaker 2: It out talking to Reggie Miller. Will be on the call tonight. It's a double header Coach to Coast Lebron Luca Lakers against James Harden and the Clippers Battle of La at eleven pm Eastern on NBC and Peacock. How do you think we're going to look back on Nikola Jokic, like historically, where does he rank? Where will he ranked? You think when it's all shut and done, the.

00:44:33
Speaker 8: Only thing missing from his resume is chips. He's done everything personally, He's got all the MVPs, He's have all the numbers and will have all the numbers to vacuum. The only thing that will solidify him amongst the greats are championships. I think we The knock on Wilt Chamberlain is that he only gotten wander two, right, and you look at Kareem who has six.

00:44:59
Speaker 5: You've got Jill Russell who has what eight or nine.

00:45:04
Speaker 8: Hakeem has too, So I think the only knock with the Joker are chips.

00:45:09
Speaker 5: So if he wins Chips, he's in.

00:45:13
Speaker 8: He will be in a separate wing of the Hall of Fame because his accolades and his resume will be ridiculous at the end.

00:45:20
Speaker 5: Of the day.

00:45:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm wondering about this. We do this with NFL quarterbacks. Hey, you got one, but then if you get to two, like, you really separate yourself. Whereas Joker is not going to win four or five championships. But if he wins, I think he's got to get the three. If he gets the three, if you give him three and you give him he might end up with five MVPs. So three titles, five MVPs, now all you.

00:45:51
Speaker 8: Can make a case for him to be the greatest center of all time if he gets three rings. If he wins three rings, he is the greatest center of all time over three in today's climate.

00:46:07
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, we're taking Willed and Bill Russell out of this.

00:46:11
Speaker 8: I'm certainly taking Bill Russell out. Remember we talked about this. Yeah, it's hard to put players from the sixties. It's seventy five on.

00:46:18
Speaker 5: Okay, So to me, it's Kareem as the greatest and then Shack.

00:46:23
Speaker 8: He's competing against those two guys in terms of who is the greatest center.

00:46:29
Speaker 5: If he wins three, you can.

00:46:32
Speaker 8: Make a case he's the greatest because his numbers will back that up.

00:46:37
Speaker 2: Because I'm trying to think any other center, like, he's almost the first guy on the moon with big men who's getting average in a triple double.

00:46:48
Speaker 5: And to me, his passing is what's separating him. His rebounding is there, his scoring is there.

00:46:55
Speaker 8: It's the passing right and for a big man to average a triple double, and it looks like he's going to do it in back to back years and looks like he's going to pick up another MVP the Nuggets, which it looks like there will be a top four seed right now.

00:47:09
Speaker 5: I believe they're two.

00:47:12
Speaker 2: But it's almost like he's created a system like Peyton Manning did. Peyton Manning redefined the quarterback play by going to the line of scrimmage and he created his own system. Jokers created his own system, his own ecosystem. There that you got a point center who also shoots great from three, you know, rebound steals, all of those different things.

00:47:37
Speaker 8: Well, we talked about the Nets, bad management that surrounding incorporating great The Nuggets have gotten right.

00:47:47
Speaker 5: They revamped their whole team.

00:47:48
Speaker 8: They got rid of Michael Porter Junior who we mentioned going to the Nets, and now you've got You've got players around him that compliment the two best players, Jamal Murray and Jokic, and you.

00:48:02
Speaker 5: Know, bringing back Bruce Brown fantastic.

00:48:06
Speaker 8: I just think the only thing missing from the Big Fella is ships.

00:48:11
Speaker 5: But here's the problem. In a loaded Western conference.

00:48:15
Speaker 8: The team that's ahead of you, they have figured out how to win just like you did a couple of years ago. They want a chip just like you did a few years ago, and they will be a hard out.

00:48:27
Speaker 5: They're just as big.

00:48:29
Speaker 8: And yes, you took them to seven games last year, but again they won.

00:48:35
Speaker 5: So that's the problem. You have that team in your conference now that you've got to go through.

00:48:41
Speaker 2: If you were getting traded and you had to pick between Brooklyn or Washington, the Wizards or is there a worse one than that is New Orleans in there.

00:48:55
Speaker 8: If I had to pick a team right now that I would want to play for and today.

00:49:01
Speaker 2: Today at least want to play for.

00:49:07
Speaker 8: I would probably say. I mean Brooklyn, you're in New York, so that's kind of cool.

00:49:13
Speaker 5: Washington. I would throw Washington, New Orleans in there. Those are two of my favorite.

00:49:20
Speaker 2: But I had to Sacramento, Utah.

00:49:24
Speaker 8: Sacramento, at least you're in California, Utah. Yeah, that would be very tough. That would be very very difficult. I could go skiing. Look, I can't do good. You know sun dance?

00:49:41
Speaker 2: Can you ski?

00:49:43
Speaker 4: No?

00:49:43
Speaker 5: I can't. Sorry, I said I can't go. Maybe the family would.

00:49:47
Speaker 2: Go, but hey, the jammer rank Klay Thompson thing. One's another. How can you call Klay Thompson a bum if you're in street clothes and you are bordering on being a bust?

00:50:03
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. Here's my thing?

00:50:05
Speaker 8: Why are they going after God Draymond Green four rings Clay Thompson for I mean, how are you going to talk about guys and they've been to the top of the mountaintop and your in street clothes.

00:50:19
Speaker 5: I mean, I love John Moran, but.

00:50:22
Speaker 8: Get back before you start talking, and get healthy and get on the court, please please, that's all we're asking.

00:50:29
Speaker 5: You can't be talking in cities, all right, you just can't.

00:50:32
Speaker 2: But to call Clay Thompson a bum.

00:50:35
Speaker 8: Hey, we've got four news gord sixty one points and eight dribble.

00:50:42
Speaker 2: He's one of the five greatest shooters of all time.

00:50:45
Speaker 8: I mean, come on, it's getting ridiculous, man, it's getting ridiculous.

00:50:50
Speaker 2: You gotta get these kids a history lesson here too, Like what's going on here?

00:50:58
Speaker 5: I don't understand it?

00:50:59
Speaker 8: And again Clay, he's shouldn't respond, he should be looking down like.

00:51:07
Speaker 5: Plate.

00:51:09
Speaker 2: How are the Mavericks looking?

00:51:16
Speaker 8: I guess it ain't all eCos fall right, but again, they've been riddled with injury. I can't I cannot really judge the Mavericks until a d and Kyrie is back, and then I can get a full assessment of them. So I'm not gonna I can't dog Cooper and the rest of these guys out until I get those two guys back.

00:51:38
Speaker 2: Could kN Knipple be the best rookie this year?

00:51:43
Speaker 5: He's winning a Rookie of the year.

00:51:44
Speaker 2: He's averaging nineteen a game.

00:51:47
Speaker 5: He's winning a Rookie of the Year. And dare I say this? Uh? Oh? Dare I say?

00:51:54
Speaker 2: Oh?

00:51:55
Speaker 4: Is he is.

00:51:57
Speaker 8: Stephen Curry going to be a little nervous? Who in about fifteen.

00:52:03
Speaker 2: Years all with the three point totals.

00:52:07
Speaker 8: Yes, think, just go back and look at Steph's first two or three years in terms of owners made and what Kan has done this year. Just look at their first years. I'm just saying, if you stayed, but here's the problem. You gotta stay healthy. Longevity seventeen years, eighteen years for Stephen Curry, Ken Kahan, kN Nipple will do that over a long period of time.

00:52:33
Speaker 5: I want to see it, and Khan's doing it.

00:52:36
Speaker 4: It's Charlotte, No Charlotte.

00:52:41
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that might be a place too.

00:52:44
Speaker 2: You don't want to go to Charlotte. That might be a place too, Yeah, Paulie.

00:52:49
Speaker 9: Steph Curry's first three years in the NBA with the ankle injury, he averaged two point one threes made per game. Khan Kinnipple, our guy, He's averaging three point seven threes made per game.

00:53:00
Speaker 5: In year one.

00:53:01
Speaker 2: Yeah he's pretty good.

00:53:03
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:53:03
Speaker 2: He can get to the rim too, So shoot yeah, shoot yeah. Shooters make you know, yeah, shooters make that's the difference. Have fun tonight, Happy Thanksgiving to the family, and thanks.

00:53:21
Speaker 5: To you and my lovely dad is Gobble, Gobble Gobble.

00:53:24
Speaker 2: That is Reggie Miller,